As a kid my dad's 2005 manual V70R was amazing. So satisfying when he'd race someone then they see my brother & I waving at them from the seats in the boot as we fly past they're giving the finger for getting beat by a Volvo 😂 To this day it still puts a smile on my face even though it's cost a small fortune to maintain.
I had a gs450h for nearly 2 years and absolutely loved it the amount off cars I used to play about with and leave them behind was fun. And there still good on fuel. Done 20000 miles when I had mine and all I did was put 2 new rear tyres on and service it. 100% recommend one👍
@@m.48 yeah there not that popular here in the UK the most popular models are ct and nx. I miss the gs450h my favourite car I have owned now have a rx450h makes a great family car.
In the UK they are not very popular because the cars were really created for the American market. The philosophy being big and comfortable like the Cadillacs. Part of the reason Lexus vehicles are also not very popular here in the UK is and they are not used by rental companies Therefore totally eliminating the Lexus brand from X-rental vehicle market. Walk to a Lexus dealership showroom and by the way you will get treated I don’t think you would go anywhere else.
Nope.. The BTCC was a 850 R Saloon and Estate. Which BMW had banned from racing in Touring Car's.The statement was they weren't a touring car but a family Saloon and Estate.. Basically BMW were pissed off cos the 5 series couldn't touch the 175mph they were hitting or get them on the corners because of the Haldex 4wheel drive system. You would think I had one wouldn't you.. I haven't.... I have 2 of them.. R reg and a W reg V70R phase 1.. The first gen Engine is the King to Own. That tin pot Ford pile of shite 2.4 thing ain't worth the weight in scrap..They rubbish...
When you do your sub £5k or £2.5k, don’t forget the saab aero- either (or both) the old 9000 or 9-5 were around the 250bhp stock, but like the supra had massive tuning potential. Their mid range acceleration is insane when tuned and there are 500+bhp ones with around 700nm here in the uk, or 700+ from Nordic or Maptun in Sweden. Fun. Thanks for putting the vid series together 👍🏻
Let's pretend the 200 Avant 20V never existed in 1989... Facts: the 850 T5R was launched late in 1994, same year when Audi introduced the mighty RS2... zeperfs.com/en/duel1819-742.htm
@R A funny because it was more powerful than the saab and its turbo was more responsive. In addition, its more special due to its Btcc racing pedigree and the F40 6 speed gearbox that can exceed 180 mph. Do your research before chatting bs
@@bednar23 I own one and I was chasing a F80 BMW M3 and he couldn't shake me. Of course, I'll allow you to call me a nonce because I forgot to record footage on my Dash cam😂🤦♂️. Also, in the Evo Magazine Road test review, it was trailing both a 2007 Subaru Impreza WRX STi and Mitsubishi Evo 8 on Scottish mountain roads
Love the Volvo T5, a Toyota Aristo is a good shout too, 8k for a tidy one, look like a grandads 4 door cruiser, 320hp stock and 425hp with 1.5k bpu mods
@@TraxxofAOT E55 and S55 AMG’s didn’t have airmatic! It’s hydraulic suspension which is actually more reliable than air if you understand and maintain it. What you had is a base E class sedan! Completely different cars from the AMG in every single way! Night and Day difference. Sorry but you didn’t own a true AMG.
@@spaceexplorer6636 kid, I own an 06 S55 with the ABC, I own an 06 E55 with Airmatic and a SLK55, the S55 and the CL55 had Hydraulic suspension, the W211 E55 03-06 has Airmatic, please fact check your idiotic comments
Yeah I own a volvo v70 mk1 2l5 20v and a saab 9-5 2l3 turbo and they are both very quick and I have surprised a fair amount of people on the road who obviously think "oh, shity old car, I will thrash its ass" and can't lose me from their rear view mirror then get over taken by a guy laughing!! #sweedishpower
@@traceyscott909 not from a standing start but, from 60mph/100kph, easy... My v70 is from 96 and the gears are long. The 9-5 is new and I didn't think they were this quick, realised when I kept up with a 911 in the rain one morning going to work. Love driving a family car and eating hot hatches for breakfast lunch and dinner 🤣
Interesting video. Especially as I've owned a Saab TX since 09. It has given me much pleasure and entertainment throughout that time including a run or two on the Nordschliefe in under 10 mins....lol.
Now I'm starting to think I banged on about the GS too much, everyone is going to want one ☺ I love all the cars on this list, but I'm not sure I'd actually want to own any of the others. All the others are probably going to start appreciating soon though, GS might need another 10 years and new battery tech since people are scared of old batteries, not entirely unreasonably in general.
Legacy 3.0R Spec B, a sleeper and reliable and on B roads and in the wet or snow its in a league of its own. I drove from Bristol to Southampton (and back) over the last weekend and with spirited driving I pretty much had the outside lane to myself, and when the weather was crap on the 3rd of May it was basically a free lane, I only recall a Golf R over taking me and that certainly costs more than 5 or 10k.
@@CarsWithJB haha, it really is a beast of a thing...the best bit is no one has any idea what it is - only 18 face lift saloons were sold in the UK and around the world they are quite hard to get, especially the 6 speed manuals - but you wont get mine for £5k....I wont be able to get a car as good as it for that money
For 15 years from 2000, I had a Mercedes W124 estate...I know boring right? And not a sleeper? Ah, but this was one of 200ish built. A 300TE-24v sportline from 1991. With no catalyst and running on 98 octaine full lead, it put out 240bhp and weighed 1450kg. With the estate car self leveling rear suspension as per the 190 Cosworth and a 3 litre straight six twin cam with a red line of 7250rpm it was a total sleeper. Damn I had fun with that car.
@R A A: did you have one? The weight was stamped on the vin plate.B: In the UK, with no airbags, no catalyst and proper fuel they had well over 180 even in the published figures with Cat they were rated at 217bhp. Now in the US with airbags, cats, egr and shite fuel? I don't know.
@R A facts...as below. Me thinks you didn't read my mail properly. The 3.0 12 valve M103.980 from Wikipedia 3.0 L Edit The 103.980 engine of 3.0 L; 180.6 cu in (2,960 cc) uses the CIS-E (Continuous Injection System - Electronic). Specifications Engine power @ 5700 rpm: 132 kW (179 PS; 177 hp) with catalyst, 140 kW (190 PS; 188 hp) without catalyst The 3 litre 24v M104.980 as fitted to my 300TE-24. The 3.0 L (2,960 cc) M104 featured KE-Jetronic fuel injection, cylinder specific ignition-timing, variable valve timing and under-piston cooling jets. Specifications Engine power @ 6400 rpm: 217 to 228 hp (162 to 170 kW; 220 to 231 PS)[3] (without catalytic converter) Lol
Out of these 5, I'd go for the Lexus every time. This is based on a number of things; comfort is superb, reliability second to none, performance is excellent, economy surprisingly good, and it's whisper quiet, which of course means that you blow the opposition away so quietly that they don't know you're there until you're already long gone! I own a 2006 Lexus GS300 SE-L, which has been "breathed on" by my local Lexus dealership; and it has to be said that the results are simply staggering! I paid just £2,400 for the car and spent a further £550 with Lexus - best thing I ever did.
@@buckrussel3808 You can't read. Read it again. Then again. Once more...now what did I say? 320d the fastest car you can get? Nope. Have a good life, Buck, and brush up on your English, it might come in handy for you some time in your life.
@@buckrussel3808 Mate, its limited to 155mph, same as every other Merc or BMW. I also said between 30 to 70mph, it's as quick as anything. Now, if you are talking supercars, then you'd be right, but we aren't, its sleepers under 10k.
You should have lumped the GS460 in with the GS450h. Around the same price and performance. (and rarity, I think) You could have added the LS460. Even more of a sleeper, in looks, but heavier than the GS.
@@MrSchmekker Only to people who know cars. I debadged my remapped M140i, and now I get all sorts of clowns trying to race me, which never happened when it had the badges on ;-)
I had the gs450h is a beast the only down side is that is CVT in 2 years that I own I put 71k miles on it just to bear in mind when I purchased it had 99k on the clock no issues part from tpms sensors age related and holes on the exhaust, probably like all the other cars on your list insurance tax and maintenance is very expensive as they are premium cars
Hi, lived through the Audi V8 evolution. The story goes……. Audi V8 4.2 40v come out then VW bought Lambo. The Lambo V10 5.0 IS based on the V8 though they decided on 5.0 capacity so reduced the bore spacing by 2mm to make the block as light as possible. They developed the V10 5.0 with 4 valves per cylinder instead of 5 utilising the left over hole in the head for direct fuel injector along with many performance mods. All of this was then applied to the 40v V8 engine bar the bore spacing which created the B7/8 RS4 engine, R8 V8 and one of the Q7’s. Then they took that engine, added 2 more cylinders to create the 5.2 V10. My point being you and others say the 5.0 V10 isn’t related to the other engines, apart from the bore spacing they are 😊
Damned good, I like your presentation. Good topic too. I once owned a SAAB 9000 2.3 turbo, this was nearly 30 years ago and it was my first luxury car - I didn’t take long to find out how fast it could go.
Anyone looking at the v70r but can't afford one, bear in mind the 2.0T (also 5cyl turbo) produces 180bhp and costs the same as a 1.2 VW Polo to insure, oh and I picked up my S60 version for £800. So yeah, this or a polo. I think I made the right choice.
I might get hate for this, but recently I picked up an A4 b7 s-line, 3.0tdi. It’s ridiculously torque-y, and I only got it for 2 grand and it’s in pristine condition, bare in mind it’s my second car and I’ve only been driving a year and a half, possibly the best deal I’d get for such great performance for a second car. Definitely an underrated car, and an absolute sleeper, I’ve had several people shocked at the performance of it
As the resident GS450h fanboy on the channel, do it! The Mk4 (2012 onwards) is a huge step up in luxury (moisturing aircon...) and tech so well worth it if you can afford it, but the performance is identical- some suggest the older ones are actually faster but that doesn't really seem to be the case. Also it's a little quicker than 5.7 to 60 unless you're towing a bus! Notes- no folding seats, needs full dealer servicing to keep the battery warranty (10 years, not that it'll ever break anyway) and please don't race my Porsche since I know which car wins ☺
@@ApothecaryTerry I have had a 2007 GS450h and now I own a 2014 GS450h. My 2007 car covered 229,000 miles before I PX’d for the current car. The reason the older car feels a little faster is because the newer car has such a great level of comfort that it hides how fast it really is. 0-60 in 5.2 seconds. 38 MPG (city) 42+ MPG motorway. Not bad for a car with a 3.5 Litre engine
@@filmfreek35 The Mk4 definitely hides its speed well! It's also a very easy car to burn fuel in if you floor it, but I also managed 50mpg on a few runs. Even did 47.5 on a 4 hour run from Bristol to east London including 90 mins of London rush hour. Once I get bored of having a sports car in a couple more years, a Mk4 is on my shortlist again. Never considered owning the same car twice before but it's so good...although I want a facelift in premier spec and no black leather if I get one, so I might have to check my local unicorn dealer for that.
@@ApothecaryTerry it nice to come across someone who knows about these Lexus GS vehicles. Unfortunately the last Generation GS is mainly an exterior styling upgrade. It has the same cabin as the 2012 & on models but with better gauge cluster, a new steering wheel, Adaptive radar cruise control a standard, and a physical back button for the infotainment system. The engine is the same, The seats are the same. Since the GS was discontinued I keep wondering what my next Lexus would be. The ES does not really appeal to me being a front wheel drive and underpowered. I hope I can afford and LS 500h F sport (0-60 in 4.6 seconds).
The bmw m135i should be a contender for this. I got mine for under 10 and its a great example. It made 380bhp with a stage 1 map and it's a eight speed auto. Take my word for it....... It goes well.
One more nice video mate keep it up ! Do a review of car insurance group for does monsters to ...would be good talk about that for all of car enthusiasts...
No BMWs? That's an oversight. The 335i is a cracking shout, especially pre- twin-scroll, and estate it unassuming. The 535d is another great family-friendly performance car.
I think you probably have a bunch of viewers who just pick up the occasional video, I was one of them but just subbed 👍 I see this channel booming ayy, good stuff (Scirocco 2.0 TSi 😁)
W169 A200 Turbo by far my favourite sleeper. It can smoke people off in daily taffic for a fraction of those 10k (where i live they are 1000EUR due to high engine tax since its over 2L). People will think you are driving just a normal a class
Love these sleepers, got a 335 bmw tourer shadow edition d 19 plate (only 5 sold in uk) and boy do I like upsetting some high performance cars 4.7 to 60mph with 310 bhp.
Rover 75 V8: 260hp, 150mph, 0-60 7.2. Being only available in 2005, is rarer than the Saab! V8 Jags: S Type 400hp, 155mph, 0-60 5.3; XJR X308 370hp, 155mph (limited), 0-60 5.6 5.0 supercharged isn't yet in the £10k bracket but shouldn't be long! (510hp, 155mph limited, 0-60 4.7)
I wanted a sleeper car for sleeping in it for long journeys like road trips continental stile, if it’s possible for you to do a video on it be brilliant. Anyway cheers for all your great videos I enjoy watching & peace ✌️
Lookin for a cheap sleeper? Lincoln MKS Ecoboost from 2010 to 2018. Can be had for under 10 grand US. With a $600.00 tune the car goes 0-60 in 3.9. Its all wheel drive. The parts are cheap and as long as you change the oil in the PTU your golden. Many have fallen prey to this beast. This is the same as the Ford Tauraus SHO.
As the man inferred... have 25% of the cars value annually to maintain these bad boys! I have had my fair share of older premium motors and whilst you feel a million dollars driving them a painful invoice is never too far away!
Thank you for your eloquent and polite response. 50/60s you say for sleepers? Not what I’ve read. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong though seeing as Wikipedia isn’t the most reliable source for info fishing. I delete my comments as I don’t want to poo poo 💩 your channel. I enjoy it. Just don’t agree with what is considered a “sleeper” you have a new sub.
No worries! I enjoy the challenge/enjoy the difference of opinions. Tomorrow will be my final (probably) in the series of cheap sleeper cars vids, as a forewarning, but what I’ll do is start researching over the weekend exactly how sleepers started/where they came from/the history of, and prepare a ‘history of sleeper cars’ style video once I’ve done the research (just with a more interesting title)
Good video, in regards to sleepers I bought an E500 coupe 2 months ago and it catches people out everytime and I got it for a bargain of £9000. Also very hard to find.
The Volvo V70R is probably the Best car on the list it has five cylinders it is an estate and you can put your kids in the back and if you do crash you will be absolutely fine because it’s a Volvo
Would you say an mx5 would make a decent first car for a 20 year old who already has access to his parents cars when more practicality is needed? Been driving a 2020 BMW 116d and it's starting to feel a bit boring, so I'm looking for something more exciting
Literally ANY car is more exciting than a 116d. The rwd is the only thing going for it but doesn't have the power to make use of it. If I was 20y old again I'd get a fiesta 1.0 ecoboost with 99bhp. Stage 1 takes it to around 145bhp, handles brilliant cheap to run and quick enough
now get a sleepers for under 2k video made ,,, thats the real bargain threshold ... under 1k is just scrap heap cash ,,, so I think 2k is the mark. a months wages for most folk the perfect amount to spend if you crash or kill your car , or the spending limit on a new credit card theres the challenge 2K.
My pick is the Mercedes A200 turbo W169 chasis. They are under 2k i really nice trim and condition. Debadge theme and you got a real monster + you can actually afford the gas/maintenance + you can actually daily drive it
AXA has said that I can get insured as a main driver with a provisional and that when I pass my test the price wouldn’t change. I can also start building no claims with my provisional license. Do you know any other companies that do this? They offered me £2200 on a 2018 1.5L Yaris
@@CarsWithJB going to try and get a quote that is cheaper but this deal seems the best at the minute. Thanks for the great uploads! Advice on insurance, new vs used cars, cash vs finance would be great videos but I’ve watched a lot of the ones you have already put out on these so keep it up
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As a kid my dad's 2005 manual V70R was amazing. So satisfying when he'd race someone then they see my brother & I waving at them from the seats in the boot as we fly past they're giving the finger for getting beat by a Volvo 😂 To this day it still puts a smile on my face even though it's cost a small fortune to maintain.
The SAAB 9-3 Turbo X, is my dream car... So happy to see it on the list. The model up wa the 9-3 Carlsson!
Same
I had a gs450h for nearly 2 years and absolutely loved it the amount off cars I used to play about with and leave them behind was fun. And there still good on fuel. Done 20000 miles when I had mine and all I did was put 2 new rear tyres on and service it. 100% recommend one👍
Im over the pond and I have a GS460. Lexus makes banging cars although from what I have seen the UK market is quite small, how do you see it? Cheers
@@m.48 yeah there not that popular here in the UK the most popular models are ct and nx. I miss the gs450h my favourite car I have owned now have a rx450h makes a great family car.
In the UK they are not very popular because the cars were really created for the American market. The philosophy being big and comfortable like the Cadillacs.
Part of the reason Lexus vehicles are also not very popular here in the UK is and they are not used by rental companies Therefore totally eliminating the Lexus brand from X-rental vehicle market. Walk to a Lexus dealership showroom and by the way you will get treated I don’t think you would go anywhere else.
Volvo started the wagon race in mid 90s with its 850 T5R inspired by its winning 850 BTCC
I remember watching those Volvo estates in the BTCC in the 90s (or was it the 00s?). Crazy good.
Nope.. The BTCC was a 850 R Saloon and Estate. Which BMW had banned from racing in Touring Car's.The statement was they weren't a touring car but a family Saloon and Estate.. Basically BMW were pissed off cos the 5 series couldn't touch the 175mph they were hitting or get them on the corners because of the Haldex 4wheel drive system. You would think I had one wouldn't you..
I haven't.... I have 2 of them.. R reg and a W reg V70R phase 1.. The first gen Engine is the King to Own. That tin pot Ford pile of shite 2.4 thing ain't worth the weight in scrap..They rubbish...
@@tonysilliker5977 wow nice. I once bought a Nissan Primera because a privateer in the BTCC won a race.
When you do your sub £5k or £2.5k, don’t forget the saab aero- either (or both) the old 9000 or 9-5 were around the 250bhp stock, but like the supra had massive tuning potential. Their mid range acceleration is insane when tuned and there are 500+bhp ones with around 700nm here in the uk, or 700+ from Nordic or Maptun in Sweden.
Fun.
Thanks for putting the vid series together 👍🏻
Absolutely the Saab areo with just an ecu remap is quite under rated.
My 04 9-5 Aero is awesome, great car all around. Good daily.
The Volvo that started the crazy estate was the 850 T5/R in 1992.
Let's pretend the 200 Avant 20V never existed in 1989...
Facts: the 850 T5R was launched late in 1994, same year when Audi introduced the mighty RS2... zeperfs.com/en/duel1819-742.htm
The Saab 9-3 Turbo X has the same 2.8 Turbo V6 in the Vectra VXR which is also a very understated car
@R A funny because it was more powerful than the saab and its turbo was more responsive. In addition, its more special due to its Btcc racing pedigree and the F40 6 speed gearbox that can exceed 180 mph. Do your research before chatting bs
I want an SAAB or V70 or Fiat 500 as my dream car
@@asifnoaman8978 the vectra vxr is awesome. It just doesn't like cornering at speed (in standard form).
@R A do your research
@@bednar23 I own one and I was chasing a F80 BMW M3 and he couldn't shake me. Of course, I'll allow you to call me a nonce because I forgot to record footage on my Dash cam😂🤦♂️. Also, in the Evo Magazine Road test review, it was trailing both a 2007 Subaru Impreza WRX STi and Mitsubishi Evo 8 on Scottish mountain roads
I’d love either an 850R or a V70 R but god the new V90 R with the T8 hybrid looks mega
The 850r looked awesome in touring car trim!
It looks incredible, but the engine massively lets it down.
I'm driving a Saab 9-3 2.0T with 209 hp. There were some BMW's and VW's who thought they could race me
Yo man, driving a saab 9-5 2l3 turbo and often come across BMW and porsche drivers who think that they will lose me.... Haha... Nope
The audio system on the saab is great, i think it is harman kardon. I dont know of any car with better from factory audio
Thought that as well, for standard, its booming.
Amp under the seat.
Well they aren't as good as standard volvo systems, had 5 volvos and now driving a saab. Saab is almost as good, maybe crisper but not louder
@@aerovector7594 louder is not better, it is just louder.
Love the Volvo T5, a Toyota Aristo is a good shout too, 8k for a tidy one, look like a grandads 4 door cruiser, 320hp stock and 425hp with 1.5k bpu mods
The GS450H does 0-60mph in 5.1 secs, thats what I also get on mine!
Best ive had is a 4.99!
FIRST VOLVO IS FROM LITHUANIA FROM MY COUNTRY, NICE TO SEE THAT 😃🔥
It is probably stolen abroad and smuggled to Lithuania. Lol, just kidding... maybe 😂
2010 white GS450H owner here.
Car surprises a lot of people, I'm in love with mine!
Any tips on buying one?
Big up my guy keep up the good work!
Appreciate it man!
@@CarsWithJB WHAT???? The Lexus IS350 2nd generation is waaay faster than that Lexus GS 450h bro?????🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️
Your videos are really helping me pick a car man keep up the good work 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
You should do one after the 5k one for 2500 as you can get some sleepers for that sort of money aswell
@Easy WIN Slots nonce
You can indeed they will need work though
I have an E55 and its super reliable and surprises people all the time :)
Yep! So does my S55.
Pssssst you know as well as I do that Airmatic keeps breaking 😜 I had one and I kept blowing struts
@@TraxxofAOT E55 and S55 AMG’s didn’t have airmatic!
It’s hydraulic suspension which is actually more reliable than air if you understand and maintain it.
What you had is a base E class sedan! Completely different cars from the AMG in every single way!
Night and Day difference.
Sorry but you didn’t own a true AMG.
@@spaceexplorer6636 kid, I own an 06 S55 with the ABC, I own an 06 E55 with Airmatic and a SLK55, the S55 and the CL55 had Hydraulic suspension, the W211 E55 03-06 has Airmatic, please fact check your idiotic comments
And to further insult your intellect, the base E430’s had standard springs and some of the E500’s had springs or Airmatic
So glad you mentioned the Lexus GS450H! Did you know they made a V8? GS460, I own one. Incredible car.
I was looking at the gs450h but I wasn't to sure.. Never drove 1, are they actually that quick??
@@Fordfocusstmk3250 He obviously hasn't got a clue 😂
I owned Saabs and Volvos, I can't dispute this list.
Same, but my heart still gos to Saab 95 Aero 😊
@@GeoBot_Gaming Exactly!
Yeah I own a volvo v70 mk1 2l5 20v and a saab 9-5 2l3 turbo and they are both very quick and I have surprised a fair amount of people on the road who obviously think "oh, shity old car, I will thrash its ass" and can't lose me from their rear view mirror then get over taken by a guy laughing!! #sweedishpower
@@aerovector7594 Hey, Aero, you're right! Both cars will smoke another car on the open road.
@@traceyscott909 not from a standing start but, from 60mph/100kph, easy...
My v70 is from 96 and the gears are long.
The 9-5 is new and I didn't think they were this quick, realised when I kept up with a 911 in the rain one morning going to work.
Love driving a family car and eating hot hatches for breakfast lunch and dinner 🤣
Interesting video. Especially as I've owned a Saab TX since 09. It has given me much pleasure and entertainment throughout that time including a run or two on the Nordschliefe in under 10 mins....lol.
That e class is perfect in soo many ways. Looks so disguised then you see those phat quad exhausts 😍🤤
Now I'm starting to think I banged on about the GS too much, everyone is going to want one ☺ I love all the cars on this list, but I'm not sure I'd actually want to own any of the others. All the others are probably going to start appreciating soon though, GS might need another 10 years and new battery tech since people are scared of old batteries, not entirely unreasonably in general.
Haha honestly - they’re too good, it’s getting difficult to keep them off of list videos...
@@CarsWithJB You'll have to start doing "worst cars under £whatever" soon anyway ☺ Could actually get some interesting videos out of that...
Anyone that saw Jason Stathams Transporter knows that the Audi is not a sleeper but a beast. But the Volvo still remains my favorite.
Legacy 3.0R Spec B, a sleeper and reliable and on B roads and in the wet or snow its in a league of its own. I drove from Bristol to Southampton (and back) over the last weekend and with spirited driving I pretty much had the outside lane to myself, and when the weather was crap on the 3rd of May it was basically a free lane, I only recall a Golf R over taking me and that certainly costs more than 5 or 10k.
I think you’ll be pleased by what turns up in tomorrow’s video 👀
@@CarsWithJB haha, it really is a beast of a thing...the best bit is no one has any idea what it is - only 18 face lift saloons were sold in the UK and around the world they are quite hard to get, especially the 6 speed manuals - but you wont get mine for £5k....I wont be able to get a car as good as it for that money
For 15 years from 2000, I had a Mercedes W124 estate...I know boring right? And not a sleeper?
Ah, but this was one of 200ish built.
A 300TE-24v sportline from 1991. With no catalyst and running on 98 octaine full lead, it put out 240bhp and weighed 1450kg. With the estate car self leveling rear suspension as per the 190 Cosworth and a 3 litre straight six twin cam with a red line of 7250rpm it was a total sleeper. Damn I had fun with that car.
@R A A: did you have one? The weight was stamped on the vin plate.B: In the UK, with no airbags, no catalyst and proper fuel they had well over 180 even in the published figures with Cat they were rated at 217bhp. Now in the US with airbags, cats, egr and shite fuel? I don't know.
@R A oh and at 55 im hardly a kid. That picture is of my sons....10 years ago.
@R A facts...as below. Me thinks you didn't read my mail properly.
The 3.0 12 valve M103.980 from Wikipedia
3.0 L Edit
The 103.980 engine of 3.0 L; 180.6 cu in (2,960 cc) uses the CIS-E (Continuous Injection System - Electronic).
Specifications
Engine power @ 5700 rpm: 132 kW (179 PS; 177 hp) with catalyst, 140 kW (190 PS; 188 hp) without catalyst
The 3 litre 24v M104.980 as fitted to my 300TE-24.
The 3.0 L (2,960 cc) M104 featured KE-Jetronic fuel injection, cylinder specific ignition-timing, variable valve timing and under-piston cooling jets.
Specifications
Engine power @ 6400 rpm: 217 to 228 hp (162 to 170 kW; 220 to 231 PS)[3] (without catalytic converter)
Lol
I have just finished restoring a 2005 Jaguar X-Type 3.0 AWD Estate, bought for £1000 and it grips like a race car and is extremely quick
Cool vid man, nice one 👏🏻
Love it!!! Keep it up buddy!! Excellent informative content!!
Appreciate it!
Out of these 5, I'd go for the Lexus every time. This is based on a number of things; comfort is superb, reliability second to none, performance is excellent, economy surprisingly good, and it's whisper quiet, which of course means that you blow the opposition away so quietly that they don't know you're there until you're already long gone!
I own a 2006 Lexus GS300 SE-L, which has been "breathed on" by my local Lexus dealership; and it has to be said that the results are simply staggering! I paid just £2,400 for the car and spent a further £550 with Lexus - best thing I ever did.
Loving the channel just subbed keep the grate content up
Had an Omega 3.2 v6, brilliant car, and my current one is a c330d, which is about as quick a car from 30-70 as you can get.
@@buckrussel3808 You can't read. Read it again. Then again. Once more...now what did I say? 320d the fastest car you can get? Nope.
Have a good life, Buck, and brush up on your English, it might come in handy for you some time in your life.
@@buckrussel3808 Mate, its limited to 155mph, same as every other Merc or BMW. I also said between 30 to 70mph, it's as quick as anything.
Now, if you are talking supercars, then you'd be right, but we aren't, its sleepers under 10k.
First vid of yours I’ve seen. Subscribed !
Awesome! Thank you!
You should have lumped the GS460 in with the GS450h. Around the same price and performance. (and rarity, I think)
You could have added the LS460. Even more of a sleeper, in looks, but heavier than the GS.
The only one I wouldn't exactly call a "Sleeper" is the Audi, if you see an Audi like that, your gonna expect it to be quick
66u5 to
How? Unless you see the S badge or you know what it is, it just looks like a regular Audi sedan.
@@natefrommtl Regular Audis are very fast as well.
*you're. The contraction of you are. It's really not difficult.
@@markfox1545 troll detected
High mileage m135i for like £9,700, 25 quid to stick a 116i badge on it. Boom perfect sleeper 😉
Hahah yes & take the m sport bodykit off 👀
@@CarsWithJB heheh oh yes, or even better just buy a cheaper 130i, those things are beasts
@@CarsWithJB You can get an M Sport version of any lower model though.
So de-badged, the only difference is the exhausts.
The brakes give it away :)
@@MrSchmekker Only to people who know cars.
I debadged my remapped M140i, and now I get all sorts of clowns trying to race me, which never happened when it had the badges on ;-)
I had the gs450h is a beast the only down side is that is CVT in 2 years that I own I put 71k miles on it just to bear in mind when I purchased it had 99k on the clock no issues part from tpms sensors age related and holes on the exhaust, probably like all the other cars on your list insurance tax and maintenance is very expensive as they are premium cars
Hi, lived through the Audi V8 evolution. The story goes…….
Audi V8 4.2 40v come out then VW bought Lambo. The Lambo V10 5.0 IS based on the V8 though they decided on 5.0 capacity so reduced the bore spacing by 2mm to make the block as light as possible. They developed the V10 5.0 with 4 valves per cylinder instead of 5 utilising the left over hole in the head for direct fuel injector along with many performance mods. All of this was then applied to the 40v V8 engine bar the bore spacing which created the B7/8 RS4 engine, R8 V8 and one of the Q7’s. Then they took that engine, added 2 more cylinders to create the 5.2 V10. My point being you and others say the 5.0 V10 isn’t related to the other engines, apart from the bore spacing they are 😊
Another great video!
Damned good, I like your presentation. Good topic too. I once owned a SAAB 9000 2.3 turbo, this was nearly 30 years ago and it was my first luxury car - I didn’t take long to find out how fast it could go.
Always great videos, thanks!
Appreciate it man!
Would you say an octavia vrs is a sleeper. Fast enough to blow most cars on the road but not tooo quick (the estate btw)
100% - it’s literally a skoda 😅
Of course it’s good, it’s an Audi. Too many badge snobs will give it a sidestep. Good call.
"fast enough to blow most cars" pahhahaha never laughed so much
Could give the Mazda 6 MPS a nod, although may just come in the under 5000 list!
And they are 4wd!!!
Anyone looking at the v70r but can't afford one, bear in mind the 2.0T (also 5cyl turbo) produces 180bhp and costs the same as a 1.2 VW Polo to insure, oh and I picked up my S60 version for £800. So yeah, this or a polo. I think I made the right choice.
@@buckrussel3808 yeahbut its enough to put a smile on your face and give it an 8.5 sec 0-60mph
Nice one there. My 2000 model Mercedes Benz e 320 avantgarde still punishes other cars on the highway.
These vids are great, I love sleeper cars, and a reasonable price point too
Loved the vid. Subbed
Friend of mine has an S8 V10. Engine has just gone BOOM.
That’s not great to hear - that’ll be an expensive fix!
I might get hate for this, but recently I picked up an A4 b7 s-line, 3.0tdi. It’s ridiculously torque-y, and I only got it for 2 grand and it’s in pristine condition, bare in mind it’s my second car and I’ve only been driving a year and a half, possibly the best deal I’d get for such great performance for a second car. Definitely an underrated car, and an absolute sleeper, I’ve had several people shocked at the performance of it
Eyyyyyy the lexus 450h again love it man keep it upp. Am actually sold, buying one of those lexus for next my car 😀
Do it! Such an insane all-rounder
As the resident GS450h fanboy on the channel, do it! The Mk4 (2012 onwards) is a huge step up in luxury (moisturing aircon...) and tech so well worth it if you can afford it, but the performance is identical- some suggest the older ones are actually faster but that doesn't really seem to be the case. Also it's a little quicker than 5.7 to 60 unless you're towing a bus!
Notes- no folding seats, needs full dealer servicing to keep the battery warranty (10 years, not that it'll ever break anyway) and please don't race my Porsche since I know which car wins ☺
@@ApothecaryTerry I have had a 2007 GS450h and now I own a 2014 GS450h. My 2007 car covered 229,000 miles before I PX’d for the current car.
The reason the older car feels a little faster is because the newer car has such a great level of comfort that it hides how fast it really is.
0-60 in 5.2 seconds.
38 MPG (city) 42+ MPG motorway. Not bad for a car with a 3.5 Litre engine
@@filmfreek35 The Mk4 definitely hides its speed well!
It's also a very easy car to burn fuel in if you floor it, but I also managed 50mpg on a few runs. Even did 47.5 on a 4 hour run from Bristol to east London including 90 mins of London rush hour.
Once I get bored of having a sports car in a couple more years, a Mk4 is on my shortlist again. Never considered owning the same car twice before but it's so good...although I want a facelift in premier spec and no black leather if I get one, so I might have to check my local unicorn dealer for that.
@@ApothecaryTerry it nice to come across someone who knows about these Lexus GS vehicles.
Unfortunately the last Generation GS is mainly an exterior styling upgrade. It has the same cabin as the 2012 & on models but with better gauge cluster, a new steering wheel, Adaptive radar cruise control a standard, and a physical back button for the infotainment system.
The engine is the same, The seats are the same.
Since the GS was discontinued I keep wondering what my next Lexus would be. The ES does not really appeal to me being a front wheel drive and underpowered. I hope I can afford and LS 500h F sport (0-60 in 4.6 seconds).
3:24 is that a VW Passat MK5
The bmw m135i should be a contender for this. I got mine for under 10 and its a great example. It made 380bhp with a stage 1 map and it's a eight speed auto. Take my word for it....... It goes well.
That engine OUT job on the S8 is insane just to change the spark plug. The SAAB is probably the least known of al these cars because of its rareness.
One more nice video mate keep it up ! Do a review of car insurance group for does monsters to ...would be good talk about that for all of car enthusiasts...
No BMWs? That's an oversight. The 335i is a cracking shout, especially pre- twin-scroll, and estate it unassuming. The 535d is another great family-friendly performance car.
I put bmws in almost all of my lists - trying to keep it fresh 😅
Can you please do cheap and fast estates for under £2,000. Cheers
There aren’t any anymore. Unless you call 2.0 diesels fast. Maybe scrape a 46 auto 330d
I think you probably have a bunch of viewers who just pick up the occasional video, I was one of them but just subbed 👍
I see this channel booming ayy, good stuff
(Scirocco 2.0 TSi 😁)
Also where the F is the B7 RS4, can get for £10k, understated and would blow all these in vid apart with ease, even more so if corners are involved.
Got an old Volvo s80 it's got the t6 engine in it ! Incredible fast
W169 A200 Turbo by far my favourite sleeper. It can smoke people off in daily taffic for a fraction of those 10k (where i live they are 1000EUR due to high engine tax since its over 2L). People will think you are driving just a normal a class
Jaguar xjr 4.0 v8 supercharged, 370bhp standard
Love these sleepers, got a 335 bmw tourer shadow edition d 19 plate (only 5 sold in uk) and boy do I like upsetting some high performance cars 4.7 to 60mph with 310 bhp.
Cool story bro
Rover 75 V8: 260hp, 150mph, 0-60 7.2. Being only available in 2005, is rarer than the Saab!
V8 Jags:
S Type 400hp, 155mph, 0-60 5.3; XJR X308 370hp, 155mph (limited), 0-60 5.6
5.0 supercharged isn't yet in the £10k bracket but shouldn't be long! (510hp, 155mph limited, 0-60 4.7)
I wanted a sleeper car for sleeping in it for long journeys like road trips continental stile, if it’s possible for you to do a video on it be brilliant. Anyway cheers for all your great videos I enjoy watching & peace ✌️
If you want a
what do you think of the jag xf sportbrake
Love the look of it
Lookin for a cheap sleeper? Lincoln MKS Ecoboost from 2010 to 2018. Can be had for under 10 grand US. With a $600.00 tune the car goes 0-60 in 3.9. Its all wheel drive. The parts are cheap and as long as you change the oil in the PTU your golden. Many have fallen prey to this beast. This is the same as the Ford Tauraus SHO.
As the man inferred... have 25% of the cars value annually to maintain these bad boys! I have had my fair share of older premium motors and whilst you feel a million dollars driving them a painful invoice is never too far away!
man , that saab
The list vids are soo lit bro
Thank you for your eloquent and polite response. 50/60s you say for sleepers? Not what I’ve read. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong though seeing as Wikipedia isn’t the most reliable source for info fishing. I delete my comments as I don’t want to poo poo 💩 your channel. I enjoy it. Just don’t agree with what is considered a “sleeper” you have a new sub.
No worries! I enjoy the challenge/enjoy the difference of opinions. Tomorrow will be my final (probably) in the series of cheap sleeper cars vids, as a forewarning, but what I’ll do is start researching over the weekend exactly how sleepers started/where they came from/the history of, and prepare a ‘history of sleeper cars’ style video once I’ve done the research (just with a more interesting title)
Awesome. I’ll be watching and no doubt learning. 👍
Solid list. I think I'd take the Lexus and Volvo/Audi 🤔
Good video, in regards to sleepers I bought an E500 coupe 2 months ago and it catches people out everytime and I got it for a bargain of £9000. Also very hard to find.
That’s so decent - congrats on the purchase!
4.7 ? This engine has got huge power potential. In the E class is very rare as well.
@@mnoovurvi 5.5 naturally asperated.
E92 335i too! In SE spec.
my fav type of car love vid keep it up
The Volvo V70R is probably the Best car on the list it has five cylinders it is an estate and you can put your kids in the back and if you do crash you will be absolutely fine because it’s a Volvo
Honestly an inline 5 wins for me too
@R A sod off
Love a sleeper! My daily is a base spec 3.2 VR6 A3 750hp but doesn’t look it in the slightest
The e55 is such a great used buy, I saw someone on Instagram post them hitting 430k on their e55
Would you say an mx5 would make a decent first car for a 20 year old who already has access to his parents cars when more practicality is needed? Been driving a 2020 BMW 116d and it's starting to feel a bit boring, so I'm looking for something more exciting
Literally ANY car is more exciting than a 116d. The rwd is the only thing going for it but doesn't have the power to make use of it. If I was 20y old again I'd get a fiesta 1.0 ecoboost with 99bhp. Stage 1 takes it to around 145bhp, handles brilliant cheap to run and quick enough
JBBB YOU THE GOATTT
For the lexus i would just get a gs430. They may be quick but they encourage you to just waft about rather than race.
now get a sleepers for under 2k video made ,,, thats the real bargain threshold ... under 1k is just scrap heap cash ,,, so I think 2k is the mark. a months wages for most folk the perfect amount to spend if you crash or kill your car , or the spending limit on a new credit card
theres the challenge
2K.
My pick is the Mercedes A200 turbo W169 chasis. They are under 2k i really nice trim and condition. Debadge theme and you got a real monster + you can actually afford the gas/maintenance + you can actually daily drive it
@@pequlatv4814 wow ,,, didnt even know that existed ,,, I need one of these in my life I think
Get my vote JB! Love these vids
Cheers Graham!
Just get your volvo with a manual!
No jaguar s type 4.2 supercharged? !
Yes Boi!! This is the episode! But then again £5000 is going to be insane!
A video idea: fastest cars with the best mpg under your price
They will all be little turbo cars
@@neiltitmus9744 I mean it could appeal to young/new drivers such as my self
@@neiltitmus9744 * Diesel cars!!!
You are looking into Prius, or Tesla. There is nothing else with bigger mpg. Unless you don't care about it. Then you can go full V10 and others
@@RB-sb9nj No there are loads of fuel efficient fast cars, welcome to Europe 😂
Would z4 3.0si count?
Possibly - maybe too much of a sports car to be a sleeper?
V70 r is a future classic
Yes, if only you can find a manual.
I had a talbot samba Rally......Fast as FXXK
Hey great video and narrative with real review 👍
Been waiting for a video on this !
GS460 V8 power with japanese reliability and go with S60R third gen T6 polestar
You slept on the Saab 9-5 HOT aero.... Standard would smoke most things on the road
Shame the UK didn't get the E60 with the N54. Now that's an unassuming sleeper.
Gs450h has a CVT so it won't be very fun to drive I would think
AXA has said that I can get insured as a main driver with a provisional and that when I pass my test the price wouldn’t change. I can also start building no claims with my provisional license. Do you know any other companies that do this? They offered me £2200 on a 2018 1.5L Yaris
I don’t, but that sounds pretty cool - I had a decent deal (but different) for students on endsleigh 🤙🏽
@@CarsWithJB going to try and get a quote that is cheaper but this deal seems the best at the minute. Thanks for the great uploads! Advice on insurance, new vs used cars, cash vs finance would be great videos but I’ve watched a lot of the ones you have already put out on these so keep it up
I blummin love the V70R and that 300hp 2.5 5 cylinder
Inline 5s >
@@CarsWithJB true dat
Yep! Had a s60r manual. Awesome car all around.
I got my current volvo 850 t5 tuned to 300 hp for about £500 :D
Edit: I bought the car for 500 and it was already tuned,