2 points in the second half? 2?! - Stephen A. on Jayson Tatum's Game 6 struggles | First Take
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- 2 points in the second half? 2?! - Stephen A. on Jayson Tatum's Game 6 struggles | First Take
Stephen A. Smith, Kendrick Perkins and Jay Williams react to the Warriors winning the franchise's fourth NBA championship in eight seasons and Stephen Curry capturing his first NBA Finals MVP. Golden State defeated the Boston Celtics 103-90 in Game 6 of the 2022 NBA Finals to secure the title.
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Andrew Wiggins outplayed Jason Tatum in this series
Yeah he did.
NO WAY WHAT A HOT TAKE
Wow really?
Which is embarrassing. He did have the most minutes in the playoffs but still this was the worst time to slow down. Dude beat giannis and butler but not this team.
Haha that's what they get for those delusional who proclaimed themselves the next kobe.
I had my doubts about Jaylen Brown and his heart coming into the playoffs, but over the last few weeks he has completely changed that
The man is a straight baller🔥
He has plenty of heart, but he still made dumb plays last night
@@realjayseven True but for someone who’s considered the second best player, he had a good performance. Robin showed up, they just didn’t have Batman.
brown has more heart than tatum. respectfully
@@queyoung6597 Don’t call Jaylen Brown Robin lmfao! Jaylen Brown is the best player on the team there is no debate anymore. Jayson Tatum is easily the most overrated player in the nba. I don’t want to hear about Jaylen being robin lolol he is clearly the heart of the team while Tatum continues to HIDE.
He made dumb after dumb after dumb decision last night…. Jump passes, driving into 3 people in the lane, turnovers, tough contested shot after tough shot, being a ball stopped etc. Idk what game you watched
Don't let this distract you from the fact the starting lineup for the Suns scored 27 points by halftime which was equal to what Luka had by himself.
It’s to bad he didn’t help them when Warriors played 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂🤣
I think it was not just the starters but the whole Suns team.
Don’t let this distract the media from the opinion that Tatum is considered to have Mamba Mentality
@@garyfranklin9768 🤣🤣. Luka NeEdS mOrE HeLp
you have to give wiggins credit he played INCREDIBLE defence and when you break it down has the PERFECT body to be an absolutely elite defender. length, height, athletism, speed, wirey strength. there is no doubt steph deserved the finals MVP but wiggins had the same type of performance andre iguadala had in the warriors first chip that ultimately got iggy the finals MVP. credit to wiggins for buying in and doing what he needed to do.
Lol no
I think he played better than iggy and steph should’ve won 2015 fmvp
@@yahiaali4059 he definitely did not play better than steph, steph is the reason the series was able to shift in their favor
@@djmath9537 I agree but he played a similar role as iggy in 2015, and we all know Steph was still the better player for warriors in 2015 and shoulda won the FMVP.
Ye ur right. Even as a celtics fan, wiggins played phenomenal defense on tatum which helped the warriros a lot
Give Wiggins his props. He locked up Tatum.
You watch the game? The whole team looked like they were super nervous.
@@Amor1990 yeah Celtics looked out of place. Horford came to play 2nd half . Good on him. Brown came to PLAY . Rob Williams gave it his best even with a surgically repaired knee this season. Grant Williams played defense. Unfortunately couldn't perform on the offensive end alongside Derrick Whyte. But those guys arent expected to drop 30 like Tatum is on a game they have to win.
2 pts in 2nd half is NO GOOD
Nah it was all Tatum being tragic…. Yeah Wiggins defended him well but in the previous rounds it was Wes Matthews and PJ tucker locking him up. Comes down to Tatum not being a top player in the nba. A top player doesn’t get locked up by a Dinosaur in PJ tucker and Wes Matthews lolol.
@@AseeF it’s called defense
@@Amor1990 called defensive adjusting,
I think Tatum felt the pressure but Wiggins defense on him was exceptional as well. Overall, players do need to realize that it is not just a matter of shooting 3s. We rarely saw post up during the playoffs while teams bricking 3s and guys like Tatum can easily add a hook into his arsenal with his length for some easy buckets when his 3s not falling.
Both JT and JB need to get in the gym. Handles for both need to tighten up. They both need to work on court awareness. They young they be back
I am going to say he would perform better if he just get open and shoot 3s. Because the thing is he couldn't post up Wiggins or GP2 one on one, who were the primary defenders on him. The Warriors had his offense all figured out, stop his right hand drive, in case of mismatch, double him when he started to drive. He couldn't really do anything at his current skill level.
@@ghostingdagame7090 Their handles were atrocious. And their court awareness was dispicable. They were rushing plays and trying to thread the needle for high risk passes. It made no sense.Shot selection wasn’t any better. So many open threes that they pump faked and instead opted for bad passes. Rarely if ever drove into the lane against smaller defenders. It was clear after game 3 they had no clue what to do. Even if they took the lead, they’d lose it real quick to horrible shot selections and turnovers. I could go on with how bad the Tatum was and the team, and even the coaching. But I would be typing all day and night.
Wiggins played amazing defense on him but also all the time Tatum went to the basket he just wanted the foul which he didn't get in 6 games but yet he still went on trying to get the foul
Let’s not make Wiggins to be a Kawhi Leonard here folks. Tatum is just a wuss with no athleticism or alpha mentality to impose his will when confronted with length and better athleticism than him. Simple as that. You can’t brush Brown with the same paint. Their IQs and lack of elite ball handling might be similar but Brown has that great athleticism and will power to overcome what he lacks in handles and IQ. Tatum just lacks athleticism and alpha mentality. You can’t develop that in the gym. You can improve your skill but not athletic ability and most importantly laid back mental game when the chips are down. Kawhi would have absolutely bodied punked and broke Andre Wiggins’ chest and would never allow him to stare him down.
In all honesty, the only thing I'll blame celtics on is all that flopping and acting. They were the bigger team, yet they flop so much. Other than that, All of the inexperience that celtics had such as Tatum not knowing how to play in the post or not being able to drive past defenders, they'll work on that this summer and will be back better than ever. We'll see these guys again.
No we won’t see these guys again
Nah family. The East is gonna get tougher. Players will be healthy.
No disrespect they can't beat 😤 💯 a healthy bucs team warriors played great but the celtics choked this away as a team they had 100 turnovers in the series Andrew wiggins outplayed jason they got exposed no excuses his performance was worse in my opinion than lebron 2011 performance against the mavs
Na it’s over, y’all got lucky
I don’t wanna hear that they’re young and inexperienced excuse. Tatum went to the conference finals as a rookie. He’s been deep in the playoffs before
Wiggins made Tatum look unathletic
So Did PJ tucker and Wes Matthews… it wasn’t wiggins its Tatum being absolutely horrible. Jayson Tatum isn’t a top player in the NBA
Compared to his peers he doesn’t seem that athletic.
@@ryanb9305 Kobe and LeBron had terrible performances in the finals, it happens but best Tatum can do is to learn from it and see what he can improved on, I'm sure if he gets another opportunity and the pressure isn't so much on him, he won't play like that again.
Yea but Wiggins ain't have to carry the offensive load ...
Wiggins way more comfortable and definitely had more in the tank because he doesn't care the offense like Tatum
@@ryanb9305 Trying to make a lowkey excuse for Tatum I see, and trying to discredit Wiggins, did you see how Wiggins blocked Tatum 3 times in game 6, I'm not even including Wiggins perimeter defensive play againts him everytime he was trying to post up Wiggins. 🤣
The moment was too big for Jayson Tatum it’s just that simple
No it wasn’t, we’ve seen guys younger and deliver.
@@sirhoopalot1125 tatum is a soft white boy in a black mans body.
@@JT-xp3in he light I don’t see no skin tone
@@JT-xp3in 😭
@@JT-xp3in being white does not mean you can't deliver🤣🤣, I'm 110% sure that if luka was in tatum's place the celtics would have won the series...
Jaylen the best player on that roster..I been saying it for a minute ... Tatum has a higher ceiling but he's not better than Brown yet... people forget Jaylen was also a top 3 pick... Jaylen has improved every year he's been in the league and got forgotten about after Tatum was drafted
Except Jaylen Brown is not that guy either. At best he is a number 2.
Recency bias
@@KillaSin515 nah Brown showed he can get buckets as a number 1
Not yet....JB too herky jerky/ out of control
Agreed. He has got all the skills that Kawhi Leonard and Paul George have. Also, he has played exceptionally well in spite of not being considered the face of the franchise and with JT stealing all the spotlight. I wonder how much more would he have been if JT didn't hog the ball like he did until recently.
Don’t ever compare him to Kobe ever! Disrespect
Facts
big facts
It’s funny y’all act like the greats never had bad series like this😂 Kobe played just as bad if not worse in that series in 2004 against Detroit. And he was 26. How JT responds to this will define is career not the bad performance
Stop. Kobe launched airballs in the playoffs before. He was horrible in 04. He also went 6-24 in a game 7 against the Celtics when Ron Artist bailed him out. Y'alls worship of Kobe is weird.
Only Tatum does that.
Brown was the best player for the Celtics almost all playoffs and definitely in the Finals 💯 He changed my mind about him.
he did average more points than Tatum as the #2 option, so I'm going to agree with you.
Tatum is miles better
@@wussrestbrook1200 no he’s not Tatum bricks as much as westbrook
Lol definitely not all playoffs but finals yes. Tatum was the best player in the bucks and nets and the beat one is a toss up.
@@wussrestbrook1200 Not even close
Like many others have said, the narrative for JT and JB would have completely reversed if Wiggins is primarily defending JB instead of JT. I agree that JT didn't show, but a very big reason is that Wiggins completely locked him down.
he's first team nba. i watched steph curry get to the lane and get layups at will as a 6'2 dude. why can't JT do it? I don't think he's that guy, not yet at least.
Did you even watch the game? Like be honest.. Wiggins was primarily guarding Jaylen Brown in the 4th quarter. Jayson had multiple possessions with Steph or Poole on a switch, and literally waited for the double team to come before making his move.. He caught the ball in the corner and pump faked instead of shooting, which resulted in a turnover.. You either didn’t watch the game, or you don’t understand what you’re watching…
Scoring 2 points in a half is not about any defense it's about heart. It's about will to win which brown showed and taytum did not. Not to mention what luka did with Wiggins on him. Go watch game 5 man didn't give up until the last 2 min he tried his best to the last to will his team to the win that was what was missing from jt today and this series.
Draymond and gary payton were guarding jb lol acting like he curry was guarding him
@@wussrestbrook1200 GP2 had 5 fouls in the 4th.. He wasn’t guarding JB in the 4th..
Finally someone says what needed to be, about Wiggins. He was exceptional
Wigs was exceptional and his defense was suffocating.
What was needed be said, was not said. Wiggins was the finals mvp.
@@penkima4923 Paul Pierce would had score 45 on wiggins
@@antmck99 Points per game averages in the NBA finals: Paul Pierce - 19 ppg; Jayson Tatum - 22 ppg.
@@penkima4923 and pierce avg 22ppg. One which he score 38 and 40% from 3s. Stop it
Notice how everyone that the media compare to Kobe, fold in big moments💀🤦🏾
He compared himself 😂
Ironically Andrew Wiggins got compared to him early in his career and it took a while but he showed up when it mattered the most.
@@koryverde that’s not true
@@BoskoShabazz maple Jordan lol
@@koryverde he showed he loved Kobe. I dunno what you talking about.
I agree 100% with Smith on his take about Tatum... those convoluted circus shots jumping from the 3-point line (take off) limiting his options because eventually he will land (hang-time) thus opting for a pass at the last moment to avoid a travel in the process creating a turnover instead of going for a calculated layup (as Curry did in all of the Finals hen going to the paint) or the even more effective dunk (especially on trash talkers or good defenders [Green]) to demoralize the defender and the opposing team with AND1... but no, he chose to drive to the basket without passion or creativity. Brown, even though he has the same problems sometimes (poor shot selection), at least you can see that Brown has a purpose and goes with authority when he attacks the paint.
yea good luck dunking on Draymond Green lmao. Speaking as if he could just casually decide to do that whenever he wants to. Oh, and... before he can even think about "dunking on Green" he's gotta be able to get past WIGGINS first! Aight I'ma head out now.
@@Bayareabob Do you talk like that (Douche kind of way) when debating face to face in a sport bar?
Did you read my comment? I did acknowledge Green as a good defender but it can be done (get inside the paint against the Warriors as Ja Morant did until his injury, also about Curry, like I said in my comment when he was attacking inside the paint, he, like you said casually decide to do whenever he wants to inside the paint (which is what we were demanding from Jayson), like the true Superstar that he is. Oh, and by the way Boston had good defenders too. When an NBA Superstar impose his will there is no defense that can contain him.
That is why Stephen A. Smith, other analyst, former NBA players, some fans and Me (why I agree with this video) wanted Tatum to impose his will like Curry did and like the "Superstar" he is(?) by doing more to help his team, like what I think he should be doing, when he is softly attacking the paint instead of dunking over people (like my example {which he has done to pretty darn good defenders. Like during Game 7 of the 2018 Eastern Conference finals LeBron James and on Giannis Antetokounmpo in game 3 this year} especially if Jayson is a Kobe protégé) which Jaylen (his teammate), who does not have the same title "Superstar" as Tatum nor people/media said Boston is his team (what comes with that accolade), Brown did a better job thus why at this moment Tatum is not a Superstar... until he improves and earn the title of Superstar.
Everyone who claimed JT was a superstar or star shouldn't be on espn
@@kingvagar you are delusional hahaha. JT is clearly not a superstar. Wiggins put the clamps on him and sat him down. You’re so desperate to defend him though that’s cute. Hold that L.
@@Bayareabob Listen, I'm a neutral fan, second if I agree with this video and if you read my comments. I said Tatum is not a SuperStar and in both comments I explained why. Going by both answers clearly you lack social interactions to understand how other peoples opinions work and how to answer them. I'm not going to bother replying to your F*ck boy answers anymore...
Man it time to talk about how consistent a player J. Brown is. That is his team.
Where’s Patrick Beverly when u need him 😂😂😂😂
exactly lol
Facts!!
I hope everyone who was clowning Andrew Wiggins’ All-Star Selection watched this Finals.
Jayson Tatum has played in 3 All-Star games, and no one had a problem with that. Wiggins, in his first year as an All-Star, just PROVED why he’s an All-Star.
Andrew Wiggins, who was typically the Warriors’ 3rd or even 4th scoring option during the regular season, COMPLETELY OUTPLAYED BOSTON’S BEST PLAYER. Never put disrespect on my boy, Wiggs, name again.
Wiggins is an all star if he has 3 other defined legit all stars/DPOY on his team 💀. Y’all are overrating him now, did Wiggins play good yes, did he play above expectations yes. But he’s supposed to he’s a former #1 pick, not to mention he’s being asked to defend and score. Tatum is the number 1 or 2 option no in between. Wigging has room for error cause there are 4 other guys on the floor he can give the ball too in curry,Klay,Draymond and poole. Wiggins is a 4 option compared to a 1 in Tatum.
Wiggins was always the second option lot of times pooles points are in garbage time in the regular season and klay hasn’t been shooting great all year overal wiggins was the second best player all yesr
@@hunteralleruzzo9493 Wiggins is the Warriors second option now(he's even the second best Warriors in the finals )if you don't see it you're just blind. And of course he played wayyy better than Tatum in this finals .
@@hunteralleruzzo9493 but standing out in a team like that says a lot about him. I was sceptical abt the selection but he did prove himself
@@hunteralleruzzo9493 Wiggins is at worst 3rd option (he's still 2nd, above Klay if you look at ball touches) still produces more than Tatum as a 1st. So not sure what you're talking about. How is Wiggins even 4th option, Poole is the 6th man. You probably didn't watch the game or just mesmerized by Poole's skills, Poole only plays like 15 minutes per game and averages like 1 point per minute LOL.
Sure the moment might have been too big for Tatum and maybe he was fatigued from the past two series going to game 7... but the sloppiness with the basketball is unacceptable. And no team is better than the Warriors at making you pay for turning the ball over.
Being sloppy running the offense as a small point forward isn't unacceptable. Trading your only playmarker for a center in the middle of the season is unacceptable. Pointing the finger at the management.
I don't wanna hear the fatigue excuse that excuse does not work. Steph is like 30 some and lebron carried his team to a chip a couple years back in like his late 30s
@@SolaceMcfly LeBron couldn't even make the playoffs anymore in 2019, and he was 34 yo. If somebody carried the 2020 Lakers to the chip, it was AD.
@@penkima4923 what💀💀
Fool you do know they do rest right?
Jason Tatum was never THAT guy. Y'all elevated him above his station. Calling him a superstar etc. Expectations were so high. He said himself he didn't ask for it. He's just not that guy. It takes A LOT to be that guy. It's not for everybody.
Agree. He’s been overrated for a while now.
As a dubs fan, I think it was just too much pressure. Guy was sensational all playoffs but that finals spotlight is something else, there needs to be credit given to the warriors defense at times tho. Played him absolutely amazing, but man, watching him come short on so many open shots and turn it over the way he was turned into a mental lapse
I told people he’s not a superstar, and they called me crazy lol. I said he’s a “good” player, but not superstar. There’s a big difference, and people probably understand now.
He’s not that guy yet . Still learning how to be a leader but yeah the pressure was too much for him .
@@solodolo_mma3971 He took them past kd, kyrie, giannis and butler. he IS a superstar. Kobe had the worst finals series in ‘04 vs the pistons. If he wasn’t THAT guy then the warriors and all these other teams wouldn’t play him the way they did. he’s 24 years old, he’s got so much room to grow. this one stings but it’s ridiculous to say he’s not a superstar.
JB, TimeLord & Al showed more heart than JT. JT is too obsessed with himself. Celtics also need a true PG, Marcus isn't.
No they don’t. This is only a discussion because JT plays trash. Marcus Smart is good for them. They just need to change JTs game to make him more of a playmaker instead of a shot chucker. He would be able to score more efficiently, open up the floor, and keep Marcus Smart out their to lock up perimeter players. Cuz besides the last game. Marcus Smart played great defense all series.
Warriors psychologically wore down the Celtics. They couldn’t dribble the ball the entire game yesterday
Lakers are FC Barcelona
Warriors are Real Madrid
Celtics are Liverpool
@@1990Thunderbolt the only reason i understand this reference is cause of memes
@@SolaceMcfly lmfao
Wow this was a brutal series for JT. I really hope he can come back a much better player next season.
It ain't going to get any easier next season for Boston, Miami, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, Chicago, philly, hornets, Cleveland and hawks are going to be way better than last season, heat, bucks and nets are also going to look for revenge against the Celtics.
He wont
@@mikemoffin6020 bro mentioned every team but raptors 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Paul Pierce would had score 45
People need to realize Tatum is only 24 and already worn out before the Finals even began. Lebron choked his first Finals. Shaq choked his first Finals. Kobe choked against the Jazz. It happens. People need to realize some things take time.
Shaq choked? Thats a first and tatum issue all playoffs long has been turnovers, the celtics issue as a whole on offense is that they settle for too many 3s and dumb shots, the roster needs tweaking but they are scared to put Marcus smart back at the 2 and slide brown and tatum to the 3 and 4. If he's worn out before the finals even started he better get his conditioning up of he wants to make deep playoffs runs, the fatigue excuse doesn't fly with me. Jaylen brown was fasting for ramadan never once did anyone bring up him being tired or use that as an excuse. Tatum got locked up and the Celtic's barely made any offensive adjustments
Worn out at 24?? Steph 34 and seems like he never gets tired
@@waynearrington7240 curry didn't have to play 2 game 7s.
@@fox9769 naw thats not an excuse hes a young pup he shouldn't be tired
I dont want to har any excuses. he is an NBA player that makes millions. show up and perform at work! I know if I performed poorly at my job id get fired, where is my sympathy card?
Hope JT & JB are listening to all this and it fuels them to come back stronger they’re so young. I also hope they don’t let the media get in they’re heads saying they need to split y’all are a great tandem stay together young brothers!
Warriors vs Celtics in 2023. With wiseman back and development.
trust me, Boston won't go that far next season. the seasons change each year
Ray Allen was courtside with his son last night. This kind of performance in front of legend,,, is unacceptable.
He just wanted to see true greatness in the warriors
Warriors played amazing D. Even Curry was a defensive monster holding his charge to 3-12 and force 6 turnovers.
It is not the Celtics fault that they played a superior team.
I think the media still perceives Steph as a defensive liability when he has shown that he has greatly improved that he can hold his own against a lot of switches, at least until help comes.
My only criticism for Steph's defense is that he's still too trigger happy with his hand which causes him to pick up early fouls, but you really see him working on his weakness by bulking up, which really speaks for his work ethics.
@@Avermra he has to be trigger happy with his hands, guys with his size and body can only steal/deflect on defence, they're not going toe-to-toe using their bodies but slow them enough for help to come. I think he played great on defence and really exceeded my expectations.
I wouldn’t even say that much superior.. Celtics went through more of a gauntlet than the warriors did . This probably was their biggest test all playoffs . No excuse for Celtics they went to sleep as usual at the wrong time..
DEFENSIVE MONSTER...LMFAO!!!!!
@@dr2759 that’s obviously how tatum and horford felt when guarded by steph.
love andrew wiggins journey. a #1 pick that got lost over the years and was nearly considered a bust, only to truly redeem himself. dude is just entering his prime now too.
Tatum ain’t ready for that stage yet
It takes time and experience to win in the playoff ESPECIALLY the Champion. I believe the young Celtics know what it takes to win the Champion. And I hope this is the turning point for Tatum to become a REAL superstar
That mid range game is everything, footwork, post work, and dribble drive pull ups should be a top priority for him because it’ll allow him to see the double teams easier and having spots on the floor where it’s a high percentage look for a player as talented as him will make him more dynamic than settling for contested 3s.
I blame the Celtics organization for trying to turn Tatum into a point guard. They changed who he is as a player. Now I always thought Tatum had flaws in his offense when a bigger defender is guarding him and thought Wiggins would do well against him since he has the length to disrupt his shot. If you ever watch big scoring games with Tatum, example Bucks, he has switches where he is matched up with a undersized/shorter player. In the Bucks 43 point game, Bud had Grayson Allen, George Hill, and Jrue guarding him during that outburst when it should have been Portis or Giannis. Now to my critique of the Celtics. In the off season, I said the Celtics would go to another level if they did everything possible to get Lonzo Ball. I thought he was a perfect fit for the Celtics because both Tatum and Brown are great defensive players and with Williams now playing elite, it would have been off the chart defensively. I think Zo would have unleashed a phase of Tatum's game that has never been seen. Tatum and Brown should be in the open court running and gunning. I didn't want Zo on the Bulls because I saw him getting hurt covering too many players defensively. The Bulls are weaker defensively. Unless Patrick Williams turn into Kawhi 2.0, Zo will never be healthy. He needs a team that is already set defensively, which is the Boston Celtics.
@@ballguy1509 Yeah ngl I was expecting either the Clippers or Boston to heavily pursue Lonzo, he's basically the last piece both teams need to push them over the edge as champ favourites and give them consistency on both offense and defense.
@@TrueGuardify Back when Zo was a RFA, I had 5 teams as my best location for Zo. As the 1) Celtics 2) Clippers 3) Mav 4) Chicago 5) Atlanta. I didn't like Chicago because I saw them weak defensively.
The 2 points came off a fast break dunk 😭 horrible performance
Am i the only who doesn't really understand the "Tatum is still young" talk? Yes, he is young, but at the same time he is considered to be one of the best players in the nba rn. He made it to the finals! He might be too young and inexperienced to win a championship thats for sure, but it's not an excuse for his bad game in the finals. As Perks said, he could've showed himself in the defensive end or something else
🎯
How much NBA finals experience DWade/Kobe/Curry/Jordan had before they won the first one
@@momoblue1691 im so confused, what does this have to do with what i said?
@@TruthHurts58 that's exactly what im saying, there is no such think as too young when we talk about championships
@@momoblue1691 dwade won at 24 and kobe at 22 LMAO!!! take this L and zip it
Lack of experience acceptable, but lack of effort is unacceptable
I get it, it's his first finals but he's been tk the ECF so many times that it's hard to say "he's young and inexperienced", a lot of young guys never make one ECF or WCF and he's been to 4 already
Jayson Tatum is like Jared Goff. He can get you to the championship but don’t expect him to do anything after that 😂
Lol low blow. 🤣
JT is goin through what Giannis did a few years back. Giannis got locked up in da paint and had absolutely no 3 point shot. Came back 2 years later, he a champ cuz he kept at his craft and polished his game and worked on post moves and improving his handle, as well as his 3 point shot. Eventually, if JT sees what went wrong in these Finals, and keeps working on his game this offseason, there is a high chance he holds up the trophy next year.
This is the best response I’ve seen all day. Respect
Giannis has heart,JT not so much
You're point is well taken, although you didn't see Giannis complaining to the refs looking to get bailed out as much as Tatum. Toughness was never really the issue with the freak.
Bro the Celtics aren't making it back next season. They barely made it there this year. The east is only getting better
Coping is real with this one.
noticed how Stephen A. didn’t say he was thinking about Perkins when he mention celtics greats 🤣.
Because Perkins was dogshit compared to the greats
perkins was a role player LMAO
Thankyou for showing us this sending prayers to you and your family and everyone GOD bless you and your family and everyone
I don't know of people understand how difficult it is for a young star in their first NBA Finals. He'll use this to bounce back in a huge way
@Cristofer Clay Neither did Kobe.
@Cristofer Clay Kareem
Wiggins conditioning is underrated. It hides behind the athleticism
The thing that threw JT off to me was him & his obsession with Kobe.
Jason Taytum literally tried to put himself in shoes NOBODY can ever fill!!! The amount of mental pressure he put on himself by putting that out there & having ESPNs interviews & comparisons is enough to drive a person crazy!! Because now he feels he let himself his team & Kobe down SMH.
He did
kobe was his inspiration. that was his favorite player. he looked up to kobe. i believe he even trained w him, so there was a personal relationship there. of course he feels like that.
He filled Kobe shoes his first finals appearance. Kobe absolutely stunk it up
Yeah Kobe wasn’t the lead man on that team but he stunk it up lol.. There’s a difference.. JT, the supposed to be top dog on the team, Kobe, not the top dog on the team and played on am badly injured ankle
@@HahaHaha-km4sm yeah but Kobe didnt play the greatest shooter of all time and a 4 chop dynasty in his first finals either.
Wiggins and Draymond was locking him down. Not to mention he was gassed out. Ime was playing Tatum and Brown high minutes the entire playoffs became they aren't that deep. Either Tatum was in and Brown was out, either or. But if the Celtics were in trouble, he had to sub Tatum back in which was gassing him. GS played good defense on him, they were switching and doubling on him basically taking his game away. Trust me, im sure he was trying to find his rhythm but the defense was tight.
Ok and how is any of that an excuse for 2 points in the second half of a close out finals game on your home court?
@@jonathankim4892 he was gassed ! Don't be a 🤡
Jayson Tatum needs to spend the whole summer playing on the left side of the court using only his left hand and he’ll be fine. He had a glaring weakness that got exposed.
he needs an intermediate game. he needs to work on layups, he needs to work on dribbling, he needs to work on passing. the fact that this man was voted first team all nba is a joke. JT got high on his own supplyl
Tatums offensive bag is incredibly predictable. It’s either a contested sidestep 3 or a drive into the lane eurostep. Once Wiggins figured him out in game 4, he was a non factor the rest of the series.
The Celtics crushed everyone on their journey.., then they met the Warriors .
Jaylen Brown > Tatum
Tatum has no clue how to play through physicality. He weaknesses are glaring.
Brown is tougher and an all around better player
Only person that’s most similar to Kobe is Kawhi sort of! Not Tatum or Book stop it
Facts. Kawhi got that Mamba focus in the playoffs. Aintum & Devin Kardashian are a joke
@@SamoaVsEverybody814 too-Tame
@@SamoaVsEverybody814 exactly
After the Celtics went up 12-2 they stopped playing hard like the game was already won. It wasn't just Tatum who lost this game.
Facts
Agreed. Not long after, they then allowed a 21-0 in a MUST WIN game.
Al Horford and Rob Williams were battling all 4 quarters
@@felosopha445 rob williams one of my favorite players
@@wadetheflash03 That was the game right there, once that run happened I could feel GS snatched Boston's soul and their confidence soared....
Never seen a 21-0 run in a must win gm 6, simply unacceptable
True Facts
In other words from Perkins….. Be more like the warriors. 🤙🏼 lol love it
Tatum played a ton of minutes this season and never made it this far. Wiggins and Klay played some amazing 1-1 defense, on a team that was third in total points allowed this year. No doubt he'll take this L today, but don't count him out in the future.
This is one of the worst finals I’ve seen from a so called super star. He was awful.
I didn't know he's a superstar? From what I heard he's borderline top tier star but not superstar level
@@rezhaadriantanuharja3389 a lot of people were saying he's a superstar this playoffs
@Cristofer Clay a lot of people in the media said he is
I think it happens to a lot of young great players in their first finals and as long as he doesn't let it define him he'll bounce back just fine
He might never make the finals again. If Giannis had any sort of help while dropping 30-40 pts and 15-20 rbs a night, not even Middleton, they never make it past 6 games against Bucks. They caught a huge break and couldn’t capitalize. Giannis would have brutalized anyone and everyone on the Dubs
He looked so terrified, it was sad to see.
GSW played spectacular defense. Tatum is legit and 3 very strong teams could not figure him out. GSW , Wiggins & Green figured him out.
Tatum played poorly throughout most of the playoffs. MIA almost beat celtics in last two minutes.
Bucks lost because of injury of Middleton.
@@tomtang8708 probably
it was mental and physical with Tatum...he had a grueling playoff run playing back to back 7 game series...and his interviews during the finals showed u he wasnt mentally there...but tbh celtics didnt belong there...middleton healthy celtics dont go to the finals
Hopefully this adversity makes a brighter diamond.
@@liquidjackson7172 I think it will
Wiggins, Payton II, Dray, & the WARRIOrs defense!
It was a learning moment for Jason Tatum. He will be back in this same position; all superstars in this league did. He didn't fail; he learned!!
Tf were u watching
@@kaekae1782 lol
“He learned” yea he learned that he wasn’t that guy
Jayson Tatum it's not the Superstar we thought he was
We? I never did, one move Stepback. Doesn't have that killer instinct
No one outside of Boston ever thought this man was a superstar.
Bruh lots of 24 year old players in their FIRST finals have shined at that stage, last one being Pascal Siakam who torched GSW, Giannis last year etc etc. Age and experience is just an excuse.
One of the best players of all time in magic johnson won a ring his rookie year and fmvp.
@@SolaceMcfly Tatum doesn’t have that IT factor. He relies way too much on his jump shot and if you put athletic length on him, he doesn’t have the athleticism to get around that. Wiggins is no Kawhi Leonard or even Andre Igudala but he fk owned that boi. The single digit scoring nights with horrible shooting percentages vs injured Bucks and Heat teams should have been ominous signs. You can’t develop alpha mentality and athleticism in the gym
Very nice observations Stephen A. !
Tatum and Wiggins soul interchange
I love JT so much but I hope the Tatum to PG and Jimmy comparisons stop …
Tatum is still young. LeBron lost his first finals in a 4 game sweep. Jayson Tatum will come to and will be a champion.
Got locked up and outplayed by Wiggins
It was Lebron with zero help vs Duncan’s Spurs in their prime.. Very different. Tatum has players around him, but yeah he is still young let’s not overreact too much either.
Bruh it’s his fifth year in the league many other Superstars we’re champions by 24. In todays NBA 24 is a veteran
@@KDubb-ws9zc When did LeBron win his first? Curry? Jordan?
They should have maintained that inside out game since they were the bigger team but in the end experience mattered.
I hope he takes this on the chin and grows from it, if it makes him more hungry and more of a leader then it won't have been a bad loss
Tatum and brown were playing hero ball trying to go 1 vs 2/3 people. They need a pg or need to make smart a more traditional pg cause that got exposed
they need a real PG, Smart is not capable and naturally an SG. Problem is they have to stack him with Brown.
It’s not Marcus Smart’s job to design the offensive scheme? That’s the coaches job… They ran the same out of bounds play 4 times last night, they had 0 offensive movement, they ran almost 0 plays offensively… COACHES ARE PAYED MILLIONS TO FIX THOSE THINGS…
They have to tho because they have no pg they whole system is iso
The more I watched Tatum, the more I realized, that Tatum and Paul George are like a carbon copy. Both in play style and Mentally. My God, Boston should rally around JB because of his mentality. they better do it b4 its too late. I came to realize they if you put a strong long athletic defender on him, he does not have the speed and athleticism to get past. For Jb He just needs to work out handling in crowds. But Honestly. JT is the second coming of Paul George
Go through a shoulder injury like say rotator cuff tear and see if you can shoot comfortable under pressure for long instances of time. Then factor in the gruesome leg injury PG was that guy and still a top 20 player in the league.
Honestly, last year PG is better than tatum in defense, play making, and still real leader of clips. For tatum, he is..I mean he is such a trash in whole six games.
Paul George is elite tho. He's only had that playoff p bs happend recently. However, he always guards the most elite talent on the opposition team at all times. The NBA is an offensive game and elite offensive is always going to prevail over elite defense, but he at least has the guts and heart to push through. JT is just sorry af!!! All that Kobe talk and he decides to be trash is so crazy! JT has been downgraded from light skin to white boi
Shut up he’s been their best player all season, all playoffs besides the finals.
ANDREW WIGGINS defense! His feet are just as quick, same length, patient, didn't foul, didn't over commit to his moves. Give Andrew Wiggins his credit. And also Draymond Green for the defense he played on Jalen Brown
Pirk sittin there with that I used to score 2 points night in and night out face 🤣🤣🤣
Tatum made more progress this year than he has his whole career. He has always choked and this year he just did it in the Finals. His performance overall in the other rounds of the Playoffs and towards the end of the regular season was above anything he’s ever done in his entire career and he just couldn’t finish the job. Oh well.
curry was not so good at fg % in g 5 but he worked w/o ball and create some space for his guys .... iq basketball is The key when you struggle to score
and tatum doesnt hav this period .
Exactly. Dude has no iq or understand the flow of a game. It’s his Achilles heel.
I know right that was absolutely horrific
“Melancholy”😂😂 Kevin Hart was right about Stephen A waking up w 7 words to say
A good player but He doesn’t have that “Dawg” in him. W/that said I think he may not even be the best on his own team-Ppl dismiss Brown, at least he ATTACKS the basket & doesn’t settle for ill advised shots, letting PGs guard him
Definitely does he just had a bad series. I bet you was saying he had that dawg when he dropped 46 vs bucks. I get he had a bad series but let’s not let recency bias take over.
@@misterpurp777 Was Never saying or thinking that. The point is you can’t afford to have a bad SERIES at the highest stage. Bad game(s) happen but not an entire series when needed most. I equate him to my Guy D. Book-From PHX & unfortunately we fell short last year when it counted as well as this year-but if you want to be a BIG Dawg, a CHAMPION than you have to handle your business. Im sure he’ll grow from it-nowhere did I say this is it for him. I’m just being critical here ^ it’s not personal therefore, your condescending comment holds little merit. Just sentimental & coddling. You either win or you don’t. No grey areas
@@ShadomanG how was anything I said “ condescending” I can’t even take your reply serious when you out here taking it personal and using words wrong cause what did I say to belittle you or put you down or make it seem like I’m better then you🤣
@@ShadomanG and d book not even close to tatum , he couldn’t even make the playoffs on his own before cp3 got there lol
@@ShadomanG and you didn’t say it was it for him yes but you over here saying he don’t got that dawg with him as if he hasn’t proved on multiple occasions he does 🤦🏾♂️that’s all I meant by recency bias but carry on dude
I think it’s outrageous (and I can well imagine deeply offensive to JT himself) that they’re questioning his “heart”.
fr he obviously would rather go 16 for 18
Where was his hustle when he went 13 points 5 turnovers? He created as many opportunities for his opponents to score as he did for himself.
Is it just me or is JT like a quiet kind of emotionless dude? I've never seen him get pissed or even really pumped. His voice sounds like a teenager to me.
first time i actually agree with perk, never thought the day would come
It saddens me when the focus is on failure of one player in a sport that is so dependent on what the whole team brings to the game. It wasn't Tatum's fault the Celtic failed. The Celtics, despite the athleticism of players don't have the skill and basketball IQ to beat a team as talented and well coached as the Warriors. The Warriors under Kerr built this juggernaut seven years ago and have been refining it ever since. Players are skilled but they also know every scheme, every move on the floor. These are smart players willing to sacrifice for the good of the team. The Celtics don't have what is needed at the moment to compete. Tatum played all those minutes simply because the Celtics don't have enough players who can be relied upon to keep games close. Hopefully, they will continue building this team. The Warriors, in the meantime are only going to get better. As a fan, I'm thrilled by that.
You’re watching the segment specifically about Jason Tatum. There is a different segment about the team overall, and about the coach. This show is like 4 hours long but this video is only a tiny segment of it.
When Giannis lost to the Raptors NOBODY brought the excuse about him being young and he didn’t even play as bad as JT did this series.
So much grace given to Tatum...can we play back last playoffs when SAS was calling another 24 year old pathetic and encouraging the death threats and such coming his way from playing poorly offensively in a playoff series...
He was fine credit gs they were tough as nails on defense
I'm not even a hater like that, but I really hope JT never reaches the finals again. All those Kobe antics from him and he decides to be sorry af in the most important series of his life, smh! No heart, no dog, no mamba mentality from that white boi smh. Let the late great rest and I hope he keeps 24's name out of his sorry mouth
Weird.. Cuz you sound like a corny hater…
It was not the greatness of the warriors that won them the title, it was the weakness of the celtics and especially of Tatum . But they can come back next season with that experience and try again.
robert williams and al horford were only the consistent players in the finals and they have the most heart by fighting till the end.
celtics squad was going in two different directions like J wills eyes
I think Boston players are drained physically going into the finals after playing 2 7 games series against Bucks and Miami. They just don't have the energy to play defense and offense. But Warriors deserve credit for how they limited them defensicely and offensively under 100 in 4 games.
"Drained"??? You have to be kidding me. Before the Finals, the idiotic talking heads were saying that Boston was too young, and too strong for Golden State. And that Golden State was old and tired. Now that Boston has been smacked down....they're "drained" and "tired". Get out of here with those lame excuses.
And in today's NBA Finals, players have PLENTY of time to rest between games. And Boston was the younger team.
Disappointed in Tatum. This was his chance to take over and join the ranks of NBA superstardom. We're talking about future GOAT level. Massive underperform. You don't know if Celtics will ever get back to that spot with Tatum+Brown. A lot went right for them... Brooklyn missed Ben, Bucks missed Middleton, and Heat were so close to beating them. Once you get there, you gotta take advantage of it and for seven straight games, Tatum was horrible.
NBA fans are such prisoners of the moment, a lot of stars have played bad in the Finals. I remember when LeBron got out scored by Jason freaking Terry for the entire 2011 finals, but as soon as he wins a chip, everyone hops right back on the bandwagon. Sadly, that’s just how most fans are, everything is “legacy-defining”. If you listen to social media, you’ll get the impression that players aren’t allowed to have growing pains (like most humans), they either play perfect or their trash. Tatum had a bad series, but that doesn’t mean he’s “trash” and “overrated”. All the greats have struggled, none of them have had it perfect for the entirety of their careers. Tatum, at age 24, has already been to 3 conference finals and an NBA finals, I have no doubt in my mind that he’s going to get better and eventually get over the hump and win the chip.
Everyone keeps talking about Wiggins (and I get it he’s great), but when Tatum is on he can’t be stopped. Dude put up 45 against Giannis and outplayed KD in the first round. He either fell apart because of the pressure or his shoulder injury was effecting him
I feel you in other situations. But Andrew stopped him. Pressure ? Wiggs put the pressure on him, and injury if it effected him he wouldn’t of taken as many attempts as he did he was 6/18 one game. They didn’t sit him then he’s aight. He just got balled out on
Bruh he’s 24 and lead a team to the finals. 24! In his FIRST finals. Against a team that’s been there and won before he was even in the league with the SAME TEAM! Y’all gotta chill out cause at 24, nobody was ready for them bright lights. Well except Magic
KD led his team to the finals at 23, dwade won his rookie year. Should I keep going?
@@sirhoopalot1125 yea d wade put on a show. But KD lost, so if you gave KD time, do the same for Tatum
@@RealSpill2 KD never got back until he joined the warriors, Russ and Harden haven’t been back 😂😂
I'd trade Tatum for PG13 tbh. The team is good enough to make it to the Finals. Tatum wasn't an MVP candidate and I can't say for sure that he's better than PG13. PG is more of a dog than JT imo
@Alex A welp the league is getting better and they aren't gonna be able to keep that core together for long. They aren't winning the championship in the next 3 years for sure.
Andrew Wiggins laughing at jimmy Butthead 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂.
Right when tht buzzer sounded I said “Tatum betta spend dis summer like bron did after the 2011 finals🤦🏽♂️”
Jayson Tatum is young and he choked 🤷♂️
FYI Celtics not going back to the finals next year 🥴
I knew Tatum wasn't gonna play the same after he won the CF MVP. It changes some players' mindsets. Tatum got done like he did to KD in the first round. Tatum is a silent killer the Kid will bounce back but this was a chance for him to be the face of the league and start to carry the torch
Celtics showed their hand in Game 1 and Warriors knew what to expect
Perk spit pure facts and has been the only dude to mention Wiggins. SAS normally has stupid inaccurate takes.