DC Villains Perfect for Marvel Heroes
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Continuing from the Marvel Villains to DC Heroes, we'll look into DC Villains that could once again be more or less perfect, or entertaining to see against certain Marvel characters.
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Marvel Villains Perfect for DC Heroes: • Marvel Villains Perfec...
0:00 - Intro
0:47 - Iron Man villains
3:27 - Captain America villains
6:12 - Thor villains
8:20 - Hulk villains
10:58 - Hawkeye villains
12:19 - Vision villains
14:21 - Ending
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I think Lex Luthor actually works really well as an X-Man villain.
Instead of being jealous of a single man for taking his spotlight, there is an entire race of people that seem “superior” to him.
Instead of Xenophobia its racial prejudice against Mutants. He also can be a good foil to Xavier, Scott and the rest. X Men struggle with self acceptance while Lex Luthor adores the sound of his own voice.
BALD VS BALD
Lex Luthor and Magneto would have a great rivalry. They both prove each others negative points about the other side
Magneto would reinforce Lex’s inferiority complex constantly while also proving his point that Mutants are dangerous to Human Supremacy over the planet. The same thing Lex accuses Superman of
Lex would reinforce every Magneto says is wrong with humanity. Lex embodies all of our flaws, he shares all of faults but multiplied by 10. He proves Magneto’s fears every day
Both would fundamentally share the same problem however. Pride. They’re both so prideful not only in themselves but in their respective races that they cannot coexist without them constantly trying to assert dominance over the other. Both are right, both are wrong. And there’s seemingly no true answer except for the extermination of the other side. Which both sides want and strive for. It’s a never ending grudge match of Human and Mutant Supremacy. One that if left unchecked will result in the Omnicide of everyone on the planet
Lex "Rockwell" Luthor
Except, the X-Men's metaphor has been dated for years now. I actually think if the're gonna push the X-Men's "Oh look how oppressed we are despite being super model looking demi gods! Whoa is me!" Silliness, the Goverment might send the Suicide Squad.
I thought he'd be a Captain America villain.
Honestly I think Spider-Man and Batman's rouges gallerys are pretty interchangeable. That's why he skipped Spider-Man, it's too easy of an answer.
Yeah
Well, why not flip that script? Give him a Flash villain instead. Since seeing Spider-Man: No Way Home and watching Peter solve the mirror dimension, Mirror Master would be a dynamic, fun enemy for Spider-Man that would require Peter’s considerable intellect to defeat!
@@tfly999 Because flash villains are underrated and under represented so people don't think about them as much.
I don't think their villains are really alike.
That and it's been a trending topic so it's already passe.
Spiderman's villains are Batmans villains on bath salts.
The idea of Lobo picking a fight with the Guardians of the Galaxy over the PETTIEST of reasons comes to mind.
It's interactions like THAT, which makes me want a Marvel VS. DC fighting game.
I can totally see Rocket and Lobo being old bounty hunting rivals.
@@scatman786 Or Quill & Lobo arguing over music tastes.
Yes!
Lobo would be that guy. Most days he's picking a fight, then one day every couple of months he just boards and says he wants to hang out/work together.
I feel like Vandal Savage is a perfect villain for Captain America.
He's immortal, so he could encounter Cap all throughout his life, and he has worked with the Nazis in some stories.
I think Two-Face could be an interesting villain for Daredevil considering they’re both attorneys and want overall justice, Also Brainiac vs the Fantastic Four would be pretty cool
Both of them were also disfigured, definitely something about justice being blind should be said.
Two faces do seem too far gone. Penguin would be more of a threat as a mayor.
Not much of a challenge compared to Kingpin
@@bless1984 That's why Tobias Whale is there.
@@I.G.S.A.N.A.G.M Take inspiration from the Telltale Batman game and the "Harleen" graphic novel; a Harvey Dent that remains a DA after getting disfigured radicalizes and militarizes police and ordinary people, using his connections and charisma to turn the public against heroes.
Shit, he'd probably be an even bigger threat if put in the Marvel universe, the ordinary citizens there are ready to riot at the first sign of anyone 'special'. He'd be a rallying figure like no other villain, with a genuine history as a reformer and honest public servant before going bad. And he's no slouch in a fight, he regularly brawls with gangsters and Batman in canon. Plus a bunch of guns, a corrupt cop army, private security, and manageable mobsters on his payroll, getting close enough to try beating him up isn't the easy option.
Two-Face easily could be an antagonistic force that hampers the efforts of all the street-level NYC heroes like never before, so while he fits for Daredevil he could also be a foe for Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, She-Hulk (as a lawyer shredding her cases in court), even Spider-Man.
(which is good, because my top choices for new DC transfer Daredevil villains are Hellhound, if only for the name, and Onomatopoeia)
While Thor storylines against Ares and Mongul would be pretty damn cool, but yeah... Cap vs the Suicide Squad just sounds like an instant classic. I'd love to see that.
Cap vs Bloodsport feels like a match made in heaven. The perfect soldier vs a man who ran from war.
Cap vs peacemaker would work too, peacemaker is a deconstrucción of the patriótico héro captain américa is
Cap Vs Deathstroke is also one for the history books... Geez, Cap has a LOT of good villains in DC
@@lolstalgic9602 Another good one is KGBeast.
Nothing deep from a thematic standpoint it’s just a good old Cold War rivalry.
Lex being an iron man villain is near perfect
Yeah Tony is everything Lex thinks He is.
I think Lex could also work as an X-Men villain, using his platform to turn public opinion against mutants (like he tries doing with Superman) while secretly funding programs and building weapons to destroy them.
Ooooooooh never even thought of that
Lex is everything tony thinks he is@@27jets85
I suddenly wonder if Obadiah Stane was an attempt on Denny O-Neil's part to pit a Lex Luthor type against Tony Stark...
Ok... hear me out.. The Hulk vs Scarecrow. I can imagine Crane being obsessed with finding out the different fears of the Hulks many personalities and how he can use the Hulk to spread fear, chaos and panic to as many people as possible. Imagine World War Hulk except he cannot be reasoned with and is acting like a cornered animal, being reduced to the basest of instincts.
This is a genius idea
World War Hulk works primarily because of the storyline behind it, and The Hulk being driven to revenge. Someone else directing that rampage is not as attractive.
@@696190 Yes. But I meant more so the threat. The driving force would still be the Hulk but with Scarecrow as the instigator and observer. Hulk is still what drives the story.
I had him in mind. Hulk dealing with being Mind Controlled. I remember that scene of Hulk saying nobody controls the Hulk.
I think at that point Scarecrow would need to mutate himself with gamma radiation so a direct fight wouldn’t kill him.
I was also going to say Amanda Waller for Cap. I feel like you could have a fascinating contrast between Cap representing the idealized image of the American Dream and what the country could be, while Waller represents the grim reality of back room deals, installing puppet dictators and overthrowing foreign democratic elections
Black widow would be enemies with Argus. She would work for them, but because of how evil Waller is, she’d have the conscious to leave
Given with what Waller's been up to these days, she'd probably have Cap, Widow, Falcon, Nick Fury and the entirety of Shield coming after her
@@macewindu6853
NO ONE ever says this.
You’re absolutely right. Cap isn’t a spy. So his ideals would not be much of a problem for Waller. But Black Widow is about that life
A Deathstroke vs Captain America fight would go so hard.
Lex is perfect for Tony I can see Lex bragging about his superior intellect and Tony pulling up with the bald jokes 🤣
Not Atrocitus for the Hulk? I could see Hulk not wanting to be bound to the Red Lantern Corps, and Atrocitus seeing him as the perfect recruit.
I feel like Atrocitous is smart enough to understand that giving an object that induces endless rage to a being whose strength directly correlates with their anger with no known upper limit would be a bad idea.
@@--CHARLIE-- How about if Atrocitus simply underestimated how deep Banner's anger ran, and overestimated his ability to maintain control over him?
@@--CHARLIE--it could be his I’ve lost everything and so will everyone else plan
I think Mr Freeze would make a great villain for Iron Man, Tony is often depicted as a playboy so having a villain who's motivation is love would be interesting.
Freeze was my 3rd option!
There’s also a parallel between the motives towards their past crimes. Is the man who goes to any length to save his wife really more deplorable than the ex weapons dealer who sowed war and mass murder for a profit?
I think Tony would actually try to help Victor so they'd probably end up as reluctant allies.
@@bald_lightning Heck you could even have Victor working for Stark industries using their funding to keep his wife alive until Tony finds out and pulls the plug, putting Tony in the place of Ferris Boyle. The DC writers didn't want Bruce to look heartless so they didn't have him employing Victor and being responsible for his accident but Tony gets depicted as an A-hole a lot so it could definitely work.
Peacemaker vs Captain America would be fantastic, and I'm talking old school comic book lunatic peacemaker
I’m gonna hedge my bet on Peacemaker winning that fight.
Captain America kicks his ass in CQC but Peacemaker is abnormally durable for a regular man, he’ll survive long enough to eventually find an opening for one of his crazy gadgets to one-shot Cap.
Lex Luthor v Tony Stark would be a battle of the bank accounts and a polularity contest.
The comic run would be a campaign for an election essentially.
The Fantastic four literally saved Marvel from Bankruptcy. I'd consider them the most important in the comics at least
Give them Zod.
Give them brainiac, mr mztxplyk, lex, darkseid, intergang, parasite, bizarro (one of each ff member)
Basically give them supes villains
2:38 that Teddy Bear got the Wolverine cosplay on point.
Lmaoo I didn't even realize
I think captain America vs. Vandal Savage would be interesting. 2 men out of time. Vandal savage is an amazing strategist. And also he has ties to the Nazis. I see Vandal and other legacy Nazi characters teaming up to go up against Cap and his "family" (Falcon, Winter Soldier, etc) and try to create the perfect being (Aryan race, super soldiers, etc)
I myself do have a problem with that. Vandal Savage himself isn’t racist but is instead more of a opportunistic villain who would do anything to conquer the world. Although he did ally with the Germans he probably wasn’t into their hateful ideology but instead only supported them so that way he could conquer the world. Even when he allied with a team that shared similar hateful views he did so not because he believed in their views but because he wanted to defeat his old enemies in the justice society. In short I highly doubt that he would explicitly go after Caps Allie’s or do any of the things that you mentioned.
Vandal is not racist, he comes from the Egypt
You should get into comic book writing because the premise for the Hulk vs Parasite fight is actually pretty cool. You could frame it like you said where Parasite is draining the gamma energy but as Hulk loses his strength, he starts to gain the intelligence of Bruce Banner and has to fight Parasite from a more tactical approach as opposed to normal ground and pound.
Thanks man glad you like the idea. I do upload my own original stories every now and then but I definitely want to do it more often!
don't forget the fact that jack kirby's fourth world was supposed to be a Thor storyline
Sorry in advance that this is going to be a lengthy comment but as a marvel fan I’ve been waiting on this video for a while 😭
Your use of Thor was interesting because Thor actually has more of a friendly rivalry with some of the Greek Gods in Marvel, especially Hercules and Ares. Both Ares has even been an Avengers, so I bet he’d actually be shocked and taken back to see an outright villainous version of Ares like he is in DC.
In regards to what you said about Captain America not liking Deathstroke and Amanda Waller’s methods, I think you have a great point. There’s this one scene during Civil War I think, where villains are pardoned if they fight alongside Captain America but Punisher kills them anyways because he doesn’t trust criminals. Furthermore, Cap isn’t a fan of Punisher’s methods in general because he thinks they’re too simple minded and he would absolutely feel that way about Deathstroke and Waller’s use of the Suicide Squad.
Hawkeye and Deadshot are actually a great parallel on the surface level cause it reminded me of the Dark Avengers comic, when villains disguised themselves as the Avengers and Bullseye (who can sometimes come across as marvel’s deadshot) took up the Hawkeye mantle.
Your picks for Vision were really interesting, especially Amazo because I never thought about it but it seemed super obvious once you said it. There’s a long list of android/ai/cyber characters in the Marvel Universe that Vision has acted as like a philosophical guiding figure for so I could definitely see an interesting panel upon their first meeting where Vision and Brainiac have this really interesting debate about their ideologies or in the case of Vision and Amazo I could see Vision being the one to give a version of Amazo free will and having/helping him go on an arc similar to his storyline in the Justice League cartoon.
I'd love a conversation between Vision and DCAU Amazo.
As someone who's been workshopping this concept for a while: I actually think Lex Luthor would probably be a communal villain, just because he works with so many marvel heroes: the aforementioned tech mogul/power armor rivalry with Iron Man, he fits Norman Osborn's niche with Spider-Man, perhaps he could have a similar animosity towards Reed Richards as Doctor Doom, or his jealousy towards Superman could be translated into a jealousy towards Thor.
@@jacobburt1523 Someone else in the comments mentioned that Luthor would probably take issue with the X-Men and other mutants, for the same stated reason as his hatred of Superman; an entire race of people who are empowered as a result of the circumstances of their birth, whom he perceives as a threat to the common non-powered man. Of course, this being Luthor, this is merely a cover-up for his own personal envy of their power and how their existence hits him in his ego. He and Magneto in particular would probably wind up at odds with one another.
Beyond Ironman I feel like Lex could be an Avengers level villain and lead his own opposing "Thunderbolts" style team. A team that is willing to do what ever is necessary to win.
Bro that’s so cool sometimes I wish marvel & dc were one so that could be a thing
Thunderbolts: Kill the Avengers.
Wolverine=Deathstroke
Daredevil=Cheshire
Spider-Man=Poison Ivy
Thor=Circe
Peter about to get another girl lol.
Oh lord, Ivy making puns about there being a 'little spider in her garden'.
Why give Ivy to Spider-Man?
@@s-wo8781 I just think she works for Spider-Man and would have an interesting dynamic with him. Especially if she fought him in New York it would be interesting to see her reaction to New York. Spider-Man would be able to stand up to Ivy since he has beaten almost godlike foes like Firestorm and Terrax although that was Otto as the Superior Spider-Man for the latter.
Peter gonna rizz the evil out of her
Now, I would like a video about: Non DC and Marvel villains perfect for Marvel and DC heroes.
Thragg for The Sentry?
Battle Beast for The Hulk?
Vilgrax for the Avengers
Top Dollar for Batman, bringing Devil’s Night to Gotham.
he should do Marvel+Dc villains perfect for Invincible heroes. that would be...........ooooooooooooooooh, that could be fun
Toyo Harada from Valiant Universe for the X-Men
Shredder for Daredevil
I could see Bane being a captain America villain too
That's a great one
They fought for a couple of pages in a marvel vs dc storyline
The best & under one here was Hawkeye. Deadshot is a perfect rival/ archenemy. The marksman who doesn’t miss vs the archer who doesn’t miss & black mask also is an underrated pick for Hawkeye.
Wolverine vs Vandal Savage is my go to for this. Two immortals, one ancient and one born just a few generations ago, would be a really fascinating dynamic. Almost like Connor Macleod and the Kurgan from Highlander.
Edit- Man, Amanda Waller/Suicide Squad vs Captain sounds great. Throw in Nick Fury to go against Waller while Cap dukes it out with the Suicide Squad.
Funningly enough, there was a crossover between Superman and Spider-Man where Dr. Doom was working with Parasite and they kidnapped both Hulk and Wonder Woman for Parasite to absorb their energies
Batman vs bullseye
Ted Kord blue beetle vs green goblin
That would so cool! Also Ted Kord and Norman Osborne are both Steve Ditko creations (I think).
These are excellent. I think it’s especially fitting that the villains for Iron Man and Capt. America are villains associated with Superman and Batman respectively. Would love to see a pt 2 to this and the Marvel villains for DC Heroes vid.
As for some ideas… Wolverine vs Joker, Daredevil vs Onomatopoeia, Luke Cage vs Killer Croc, Jessica Jones vs Jane Doe, and Iron Fist vs King Snake.
Wolverine vs Joker: In a previous video I talked about Logan wanting to find out about his past. In this scenario, Joker is also a (failed) attempt by Weapon X who would rather his past remain nebulous, ‘multiple choice’. Any attempt Logan makes at uncovering a trail, learning about who he was, the Joker is a step ahead destroying evidence 1.) to avoid parts of his past being uncovered and 2.) for shiggles seeing how it pisses off Logan. And no, even if the Wolverine would want to dice Joker immediately, why would it be easy?
Daredevil vs Onomatopoeia: Matt already has gung-ho mercenaries and mobsters in his rogues gallery, why not give him someone decidedly creepy? Muse is a contender, but I think Onomatopoeia would give him a run for his money. Plus, how terrifying would it be for Matt to hear those noises, so many different noises, and put that blank face to them?
Luke Cage vs Killer Croc: Like I said in a past video, Waylon Jones would resent Luke for being as strong as he is without being monstrous. That envy could drive an already heated animosity. And Croc wasn’t always strictly his strength, he was a devious killer upon his introductions, and fighting someone stronger than him would force him to get crafty like those earliest appearances.
Jessica Jones vs Jane Doe: It has been a long time since Jessica has been a proper superhero, she’s better known for being a noir detective more than anything else. Give her a chilling serial killer and master of disguise as an enemy, have her play to her strength, you could get a really good story out of it.
Iron Fist vs King Snake: Wow, there are plenty of supervillains with martial arts that could be appropriate (both Hellhound and Lady Shiva were considered for Danny and Matt) but David Cain, sometimes called King Snake, takes the cake for being connected, ruthless, and just vile. His devoted mercenary following, his abusive training that created Cassandra Cain, he could easily fit into Danny’s rogues gallery.
Hope these are fun, might give you some ideas down the line.
A lot of people talk about exchanging Batman and Spider-Man's rogues, but I think a better fit for Spider-Man would be Flash's Rogues. For one, the power differential between Batman and Spider-Man is so wide that most of Batman's villains wouldn't actually be interesting; Peter Parker would just utterly demolish them once it came to blows. Flash's Rogues offer some more intense firepower to challenge Web Head, and have a throw-back to the kind of goofy, early Spider-Man energy from the first decade or so of the character.
Agreed
Captain America vs bane would be kind of awesome. Cap essentially taking on a military grade cartel with an extremely imposing and tactical head sounds neat
I saw Deathstroke on the thumbnail and had to watch. I love him!
I also agree that Slade would be an awesome villain for Captain America:
He is essentially DC’s dark reflection of Steve Rogers: both are American soldiers experimented on to become super soldiers. While Captain America stayed loyal, Slade became an international mercenary. He was also a Vietnam War veteran, while Steve is from WW2.
I think the story would be most interesting if Captain America and Deathstroke didn’t spend the entire time fighting, but actually discussed morality, their time in the army, etc. Slade is still an anti-villain but maybe they both leave the story with new perspectives.
Slade’s characterisation from about 1980-2000 is the best version of him, IMO. That is the version that would actually have a conversation with Steve.
Or maybe Slade’s contractor betrays him, and Deathstroke and Captain America are forced to team up to escape. (This happens in Batman Vol. 3.)
Idk, but I think a crossover story with them has huge potential.
And frankly at this point, I’d give my left eye to read a quality Deathstroke story that didn’t ruin Marv Wolfman’s characterisation.
I really hope this becomes a series like your “Sinister Six” or “Lantern Rings” videos. You only covered 6 heroes in each video, so there’s a lot of room for a part 2 or 3, as you can have each video be a new batch of 6 heroes.
My siblings say that Joker would be annoyed with Spider-Man...
I think it would be cool to see Hulk fight Scarecrow.
Rage vs Fear y’know?
Ras Al Ghul and Bane would make good Captain America villains.
DEATH BATTLE gave us an answer (2:25)
While, I agree with Tony trumping Lex, I wouldn't cite Screw Attack as a good source of credibility
Don't get your conclusions or evidence from death battle. They're very not credible
One possible video idea is creating Dc's Avenger,for example for Captain America its like Peacemaker or Captain Steel and vice versa with the Justice League
He already did that, it’s in his DC team ups playlist.
Here's the link to that video! ruclips.net/video/-zxN32fYQzQ/видео.htmlsi=as_QEGOJzoSJshAB
Feel like Wolverine, the FF, and Spider-Man would be cool ones to do next for Marvel. Also the Teen Titans for DC
Good picks, I would have also put Atrocitus with Hulk (rage vs rage), and Black Adam with Thor (Two magical sovereign)
Having a red lantern like Atrocitous would be interesting for Hulk to face off against
@@KingK_225 The way I see it playing out is that Atrocitus learns of Banner and the boundless depths of his anger, and makes it his business to try and provoke Banner into giving up the last vestiges of his control over the Hulk in order to draft him as the perfect Red Lantern. Hulk, as ever, just wants to be left alone, and is not willing to become Atrocitus' pawn. Atrocitus will try to pull every trick in the book to enrage Banner to the extent that the Hulk loses himself to anger entirely, thereby overriding the willpower that prevents the Red Ring's attempted recruitment.
I roll my eyes when I see Deathstroke described as a “Batman but evil” when captain America is right there!
I audibly gasped when I heard Vision and Hawkeye. Those two are some of my favorite Avengers and they are soooooo underrated!
You seem to take a lot of Marvel concepts and center them around the DC heroes. Looks like it's working out for you, so genius move really.
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GREAT idea... would love to see a crossover limited series with that very story
T.M.M. and DanCo definitely need to make a collaboration! Captain America vs Deathstroke and Lex Luthor vs Ironman would be epic!
Honestly never heard of him but I looked him up! I like the amount of detail he goes into!
@@tyrellmultimedia yeah man. I came across your channel through indepth videos like his. Keep up the great work bro. Can't wait for the next vid👍🏿
I was wanting your opinion on something. So in my ideal DC universe, after some Avengers: Endgame style event (most likely after they defeat Darkseid) a good bit of heroes would either retire or have died in the battle. So there would be a group of younger/inexperienced heroes that would make their own JL. My ideal lineup would be:
Dick Grayson as Batman (Or maybe as just Nightwing. Haven’t really decided yet.) , Supergirl, Wally West as The Flash, Kyle Reiner as Green Lantern, Vixen, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Zatanna, and Martian Manhunter
Now, I know what you’re probably thinking about Martian Manhunter. “Martian Manhunter isn’t inexperienced.” And I agree. But I think that this team would benefit from having a more seasoned hero to guide them and help them better understand the ways of their predecessors. What do you think? And what would your ideal lineup be?
If we keep the MCU template, I think Nightwing would just feel the weight of legacy without becoming the new Batman (Far From Home), and keeping 1 or 2 veteran members makes sense since the MCU did that too. Otherwise the onlything I can offer for more members is look at the Young Justice cast and add some of them since you got the obvious ones.
@@kingofhearts3185I have played around with the idea of Dick becoming Batman for a while but eventually goes back to being Nightwing. As a way for Dick to show others that he isn’t Batman. And he never will be. The time of the Batman is over. And the new protector of Gotham is Nightwing.
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@@claytonbigsby381 That’s actually a great idea. Someone to stay at the watchtower and be their person in the chair just as she was for Batman. To help them in ways that the team couldn’t really accomplish themselves. Thanks. I genuinely love that idea.
I could attempt to make a video about this if you want me too
Here’s an idea. Deacon Blackfire as either a Daredevil or Moon Knight villain.
Being a catholic, Matt Murdock would definitely get sucked into an ideological argument with Blackfire about God. He would detest him on a deep level, seeing his cult as a perversion of his faith. And if during these arguments he accidentally lets it slip that he’s a Christian, this would only further encourage Blackfire to try even harder to get Daredevil on his side. Things would definitely get heated in Hell’s Kitchen whenever these two square off.
Moon Knight serves an ancient Egyptian god the same way Deacon Blackfire claims to be a servant of THE God. And while he’s mostly presented as “normal”, I’ve heard that there’s moments, specifically in his first appearance, where they like to tease the possibility that there might actually be something mystical about Blackfire. And this is so much like how they always hint at the possibility that Khonsu is all in Marc Spector’s delusional mind. I’m fuzzy on how these two would interact, but they’re a solid thematic fit for each other. I definitely think this could prompt Marc to reflect on some more uncomfortable truths about his relationship with Khonsu.
Hello. Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work.
Some points to throw your way:
On Tony Stark/Iron Man vs Lex Luthor, it would be a very good match up; however, Stark would outclass him in armor. Even Dr. Doom conceded Stark does armor better than anyone, including himself. Luthor would need to outthink Stark in another department.
The claim Deathstroke would beat Captain America is misunderstanding the character. Batman regularly defeats Deathstroke. Why would Captain America be at a loss with Deathstroke if Batman can defeat him?
Hawkeye combatting Deadshot would be like Hawkeye combatting Bullseye.
Hulk did encounter Parasite in a DC/Marvel crossover story in which Dr. Doom duped Parasite into absorbing power so he could turn him into a fusion reactor. Absorbing power from the Hulk did not turn Hulk grey or even into Banner but instead put him in a coma, just like he also did to Wonder Woman in the same issue. Parasite was only able to absorb their powers because Dr. Doom expanded his powers (for the aforementioned reason to turn him into a fusion reactor, which would have happened if he succeeded in absorbing Superman's powers as well). For a Marvel exploration of Grey Hulk combatting a Parasite type character, reference Grey Hulk battling Half-Life. Half-Life succeeded in absorbing Grey Hulk's power, which did not turn Grey Hulk into Banner but instead into an emaciated Grey Hulk; however, Grey Hulk explains to Half-Life he will once again turn back into his own diseased self with each sunrise, at which point Half-Life ends himself.
Vision could manage Amazo much like the Flash did -- phase through his head and take out his computer brain. Vision vs Braniac would be a new and interesting take on Vision vs Ultron.
This is absolutely amazing keep up the great work can’t wait to see more 🔥!
Thank you! There's more to come for sure!
I loved the vídeo and i want more with other chatacters, for the marvel heroes i think those villains would fit:
Scarlet Witch - Circe, Karion, Eclipso, Jinx
Black Panther - Cheetah, Gorila grood, Dragon King, King Shark, Killercroc
Captain Marvel - Lobo, Starro, Blackfire, Sinestro
Wasp and Antman - Killermoth, Copperhead, Giganta, Poison ivy
Falcon - Silverswann, Kiteman, Weather Wizard
Hawkeye and Blackwidow- Cheshire, Cupid, Komodo, Captain Boomerang, Bronzetiger, Catwoman
Quicksilver - Godspeed, Killerfrost, Mirrormaster, Count Vertigo
Doctor Strange - Silver Banshee, Solomongrundy, Gentleman Ghost, Swampthing, Abracadabra
Personally, I always felt Lex Luthor would've been the perfect Arch-Enemy for Tony Stark.
Another video you could do if it interests you could be giving Invincible universe heroes villains from DC or Marvel. Could do The immortal, Robot, Monster Girl, Rex, Tech Jacket, ect
Ra's Al Ghul and Vandal Savage as Wolverine villains would be interesting, immortal warriors with prominent facial hair who've been around the block even more than him.
They could try to steal his mutant gene to prolong their lives.
My list before this video
Iron man vs lex Luther
Spider-Man vs joker
Black widow vs death stroke, maxwell lord, Talia al ghul
Hawkeye vs dead shot or penguin or falcone
Hulk vs Argus (Amanda Waller), doomsday
Captain America vs Bane, deathstroke,
Thor vs Black Adam, Zod or darkseid
Punisher vs Entire Gotham underworld (penguin, falcone, etc)
Daredevil vs League of assassins and Gotham underworld
Wolverine vs Deathstroke, league of assassins
Dr strange vs Trigon
Deathstroke would honestly fit in well with all of them, especially since he already has multiple enemies in DC
Now I wish Tony had a Toyman inspired villain good video :)
But also also me and my best friend were literally talking about this and I said “hey how about hulk and parasyte” and he said yoooooo that’s a good one
I love your takes!! It would be awesome if you did more!
Deathstroke could be a villain for captain America or Spider-Man! Also if you think about it, Amanda Waller is basically an evil version of Maria Hill
My list of DC Villains for Marvel Heroes:
1.) Brainiac and Sinestro for the Fantastic Four.
2.) Poison Ivy and Mister Freeze for Spider-Man.
3.) Lex Luthor and Toyman for Iron Man.
4.) Ares and Mongul for Thor.
5.) Atomic Skull and Doomsday for the Hulk.
6.) Lock-Up and KGBeast for Captain America.
7.) Sting and Bug-Eye Bandit for Ant-Man and the Wasp.
9.) Black Manta and Gorilla Grodd for Black Panther.
10.) Deadshot and Black Mask for Hawkeye.
11.) Calculator and Cheshire for Black Widow.
12.) Kobra Cult and Maxwell Lord for Nick Fury.
13.) Felix Faust and Mordru for Doctor Strange.
14.) Ra's al Ghul and Amanda Waller for the X-Men.
15.) Deathstroke and Vandal Savage for Wolverine.
16.) Two-Face and Onomatopoeia for Daredevil.
17.) King Snake and Killer Croc and Heroes for Hire.
18.) Carmine Falcone and Victor Zsasz for the Punisher.
19.) Cornelius Stirk and Bane for Moon Knight.
Braniac and amazo vs vision will be brutal and makes so much sense.
I think Poison Ivy could be a cool villain for Iron Man like nature vs technology
I would love to see more videos like this that has different Marvel/DC heroes or teams as a whole
Loki vs Wonder Woman. John Constantine vs Mephisto. Amanda Waller and The Suicide Squad vs Nick Fury and Shield. Green Arrow and Black canary vs Kingpin and the Hand.
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I don't even need the Suicide Squad, just give me a one-shot of Amanda Waller having a lunch with Nick Fury while they discuss "work" and there differing attitudes to supers, and I'll be happy! (Is Checkmate still a thing?)
I like your channel. Just subscribed. And I will be delving into some of your other videos. These Villains with the competing DC/Marvel heroes were fun videos.
Hope you continue with these. Would love to see who you would pit against Shazam, Martian Manhunter, Plastic Man, Spider-Man, Silver Surfer and Doctor Strange.
I would suggest Ra's Al Ghul and any member of the League of Shadows for Captain America, and even Hawkeye. FYI, Hawkeye is a well rounded fighter and can handle a sword efficiently in the comics, as evident in his Ronin persona (briefly shown at the beginning of Avengers Endgame).
What DC Villains would be Perfect for Spider-man? I love to see a fight between him and Royal Flush gang.
Do a part 2 with characters like Dr Strange, Spider Man, Wolverine, Black Panther, Silver Surfer etc
I agree with that idea. I love it.
Joker and Bane could be very compelling rogues for Daredevil. The Joker obssession with Batman, could work with Daredevil
I think Wanda going against a Chaos Lord or Trigon would be sick. Right now, she's imprisoning Chthon inside her like Raven with Trigon. Wanda uses Chaos magic but in a good way, which can be a clash with Chaos lords. Even maybe Dr. Fate, Order and Chaos n all that.
You've missed such a perfect one for Captain America, Bane, the true super soldier vs the venom infused one. A veteran of war vs a tactical strategist. Captain America, symbol of America and "freedom" being hunted by a man born to be raised in a cage.
Wow. I was thinking about that grey Hulk idea right before you said it.
Oh this was very interesting. In contrast to you while I definitely love both I'm much more Marvel leaning. I also found it interesting that this was absolutely an Avengers heroes more than general Marvel heroes. Unlike DC where the Justice League is very much a collection of DCs biggest most popular heroes, the Avengers for a long time were the B list heroes, popular sure, but not on the FF, Spider-Man and once you hit mid 70s X-Men level. I personally though have always been a big Avengers fan, that's my favourite faction of the Marvel universe.
My most favourite character is Hawkeye and actually whilst I definitely understand where those picks are coming from they definitely aren't the most interesting to me. Hawkeye vs Deadshot seems very similar to Hawkeye vs Bullseye or Trickshot which franky those just conflicts of marksmanship are never the most interesting to me. I will say I definitely think Balckmask is a very good shout, though I imagine it would be quite similar to Clint's conflict with The Hood in Hawkeye Freefall (which isn't a bad thing since that's a top 3 Hawkeye comic for me).
I think the most interesting conflicts for Clint are usually either something that challenges him personally or something that he can't just stop with some really great shots. For example Crossfire is his arch nemesis not actually because he's a match for Clint in Marksmanship (because he really isn't) but rather because he parallels Clint's own insecurities, Crossfire feels like he needs to best and humiliate this twerp, this weakest of all heroes with nothing but a bow and arrow who is somehow and Avenger because he needs to feel like he's better than than him, Clint often himself being a loudmouth because he's insecure himself, he's very aware he's the guy on the team with a bow and arrow, but he's persistent and always finds a way no matter the odds partly because he feels like he needs to be worthy pf being there. Which leads me to other conflicts for Clint I like, because I actually love Clint being completely being out of his depth and up against foes he has no right to be and finding a way to win often through trickery. Great examples are The Collector and the Grandmaster, the first of which he managed to beat through sheer persistence and more important the second he bested with a simple carny trick, because Hawkeye started out as a Carnival performer and is very much a trickster and showman. When Clint meets a foe he is utterly unmatched for his best course of action is always trickery, he can't beat them, get them to beat themselves. I could go into a bunch of examples, even in the MCU he beats vision simply by talking Wanda into it, and in the EMH animated series he talks the Hulk down by making him laugh back into Bruce banner and he just smiles cause if it works it works.
All that to say if I was to pick any DC villain for Clint it would be mr mxyzptlk, someone completely out of his depth and not too easy to trick, certainly couldn't beat with his bow, but definitely someone he could manage to trick in the end as they both spend the story playing games with each other.
Also just congrats of the success of the first video, hope this one does well too. (Parasite vs Hulk is a great shout)
Bane vs Daredevil. General Zod vs the Nova Corps. Giganta vs Ant Man & Wasp. The Flash Rouges vs Heroes for Hire. Kobra vs Spider-Woman. Brotherhood of Evil vs Hawkeye & Mockingbird. Vandal Savage vs the Invaders. Thunderbolts (heroes?) vs Waller (villain?).
I could see Vandal Savage being a arch enemy of the Invaders though not necessarily of Captain America. I could also see the Brotherhood of Evil not being enemies of Hawkeye and Mockingbird but rather of the Avengers, X-men, or the Fantastic 4.
I commented my matchups on your last DC/Marvel video and I'll say them again here...
*Iron Man vs Doomsday*
It would be an easy choice to put Doomsday against a heavy hitter like Hulk or Thor, but what makes Doomsday unique isn't that he's strong, it's that he can't be killed the same way twice, so he's a great villain for someone known for their ingenuity. You could have other Marvel heroes fighting Doomsday to subdue him and/or keep him away from civilians, but Tony would be the one who has to ultimately find the new way to kill him each time.
*Captain America vs Vandall Savage*
Two men from another time. You could give these two a very long history where they had run ins in WWII and continue to cross paths today.
*Thor vs Zod*
Two godlike beings who were exiled from their home world, with the main difference being that Thor learned from his mistakes and found redemption while Zod didn't.
*Hulk vs Joker*
Joker is known for his "One bad day" philosophy that anyone can become a monster if pushed far enough, and Bruce Banner is a walking example of this idea. Banner would struggle to break free of Joker's manipulation, as Joker could easily stress him out enough to turn him into the Hulk whenever he wanted and could just as easily switch him back with his Joker toxins.
*Spider-Man vs Mr. Mxyzptlk*
Spider-Man is someone who Mr. M would love messing with, as he's just serious enough to be bothered by his antics, but also relaxed enough to go with the flow once he gets used to it. Spider-Man's also known for his wit and would have a field day exploiting Mr. M's weakness.
*Fantastic Four vs Clayface*
I imagine Reed would have a similar relationship to Basil as he does to Ben Grimm, but more bitter. He is somehow responsible for Basil's condition, and tirelessly tries to find a cure, but this isn't good enough for Clayface, who doesn't believe Reed will ever find a cure and just wants revenge. The FF and Clayface both have a versatile powerset, so the fights would be very fun, whether it's a 1v1 with one member, or a 4v1 with the whole team.
*Black Panther vs Black Adam*
Both have powers based in magic (Black Adam more than Black Panther) and both rule a fictional country in Africa.
*Punisher vs Catwoman*
Punisher is known for believing all criminals deserve to die, and Catwoman challenges this mindset, as she's fairly tame by comic book villain standards. A rivalry between these two would blur the line between hero and villain and leave the readers questioning who to root for.
*X-Men vs The Elite*
The Elite is a team that fights against Injustice but slides into villain territory for being too ruthless in their pursuit, this is similar to X-Men's main rival team, the "Brotherhood of Mutants", and so would make a fitting rivalry. There's also the fact that both teams are led by a telepath.
*Guardians of the Galaxy vs Lobo*
You had Lobo as a contender for a member of DC's version of the Guardians, but he'd work even better as a rival to them. He represents how the Guardians used to operate before they became heroes and would have a similar relationship with them as the Ravagers do.
Vandal Savage doesn’t necessarily have to be a enemy of Captain America. While they would have likely had run ins with each other during ww2 it is possible that Vandal Savage doesn’t view Cap as a threat to his plans and therefore isn’t interested in becoming an enemy of his.
Nice video, but what DC villain would be perfect for Spider-Man?
Going off of corresponding niches, I'd say Catwoman, Joker, Man-Bat and Nimrod the Hunter are a decent start.
DC Villains For Marvel Heroes In My Opinion:
Captain America: Black Mask (Red Skull), Ra's Al Ghul (Baron Heinrich Zemo), Prometheus (Baron Helmut Zemo), Vandal Savage (Kang The Conqueror And Baron Strucker), The League Of Shadows And Court Of Cowls (Hydra), Bane (Flag Smasher, Batroc And Crossbones), Deathstroke (Taskmaster), Red Hood (Winter Soldier), Talia Al Ghul (Sin), Poison Ivy (Madame Hydra), Harley Quinn (Agent 13).
Iron Man: Lex Luthor (Obadiah Stane And Crymson Dynamo), Maxwell Lord (Justin Hammer And Norman Osborn), Ra's Al Ghul (Doctor Doom And The Mandarin), Lady Shiva (Madame Masque), Count Vertigo (Count Nefaria), Brainiac (Ultron), Hector Hammond (Modok, Aldrich Killian And AIM) KGBeast (Unicorn)
Thor: Cheetah (Loki), Circe (The Enchantress), Doctor Poison (Doctor Doom), Darkseid (Thanos), Desadd (Ebony Maw), Hades (Hela), Ares (The Serpent), Trigon (Surthur And Mangog), Kalibak (Kurse, Skurge And Ulik).
Hulk: Doomsday (Abomination), Gorilla Grood (The Leader), General Zod (General Ross), Amazo (U-Foes), Parasite (Absorbing Man), Giganta (Titania), Despero (Red King)
Hawkeye: Merlin (Swordsman), Deadshot (Crossfire And Bullseye), Deathstroke (Taskmaster), Prometheus (Baron Zemo), Hush (The Clown And Trickshot), Blockbuster And The Penguin (Kingpin), Black Mask (The Hood), Lady Shiva (Madame Masque), Black Hand (Hangman), Pied Piper (Ringmaster), Harley Quinn (Songbird And Bombshell), Man Bat (Griffin)
If you ever expand this topic you can assign some video games, anime, or movie villains to DC/Marvel and see where they'd fit into the greater universe. Like. Who in the world would Sephiroth be a villain for, for example.
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can you make a Damian justice league? like who would you put on the team?or make a team of heroes from image comics like youngblood, cyber force, former wildstorm characters and others?
The Parasite and Hulk idea was my favorite idea of the video. I really like that concept and I'd be thrilled to see that come to fruition.
this video is good i like it
I would say it would be interesting to see Marvel magic side vs dc side like scarlet witch vs felix faust or zatanna vs doctor doom
If Waller was in Marvel, she would work with Kingpin, but the two just hate each other
Another good villain for Hulk would be atrocitus. Imagine the chaos if he managed to tempt the Hulk into putting on a red lantern ring.
Some of my choices would be
-Lex Luthor and Killer Croc for the X-Men
-Darksied and Doomsday for Thor
-The Thinker and Bane for Hulk
-Carapax and Circe for Iron Man
-White Dragon and Ras Al Ghul for Captain America
-Deathstroke and Man-Bat for Spider-Man
-Parasite and Silver Swan for She-Hulk
-Onomatapoea and Deadshot for Daredevil
-Penguin and Merlyn for Hawkeye
-Black Adam and Scarecrow for Moon Knight
-KGBeast and The Calculator for Black Widow
-Felix Faust and Trigon for Doctor Strange
-Joker and Black Manta for Black Panther
-Ocean Master and Weather Wizard for the Fantastic Four
-Mongol and Maxima for Captain Marvel
-Sinestro and Starro for the Guardians of the Galaxy
Iron Man-Doctor T.O.Morrow(Rouge inventor that hates Stark.Possibly introduces Red Tornado into Marvel)and KGBeast(Hes sent to hunt Crimson Dynamo who's working now for Tony);
Captain America-Bane(like Steve someone that took a serum to be strong and fight for his country,)and Captain Nazi(Supersoldier fighting for Hitler);
Thor-Livewire(electricity absorption) and Thaal Sinestro of the Ultraviolet Lanterns(Making him feel shame and unworthybess);
Hulk-Doctor Psycho(Brains versus Brawn) and AtrociTous(Fighting rage with your fists);
Hawkeye-Sportsmaster(Mercenary and rival)and Malcom Merlyn(possible teacher turned enemy of Clint);
Vision-Doctor Ivo(The creator of the machine.In this universe he, instead of Doctor Morrow created Mister Twister)and Mister Twister(the machine that thinks he's human and is scared of not being human).
Yes, I want more! Perhaps a fusion of DC and marvel billions based on their similar history. Such as Scarecrow and Mysterio or Penguin and Vulture.
Stark vs Luthor is a stroke of genius
Hulk with a red lantern power ring would be insane!
Shout out you did a one for one video 🤙🏽 great job on both episodes
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed them!
I like all the pairs,especially Thor and Ares
Marvel has a Ares, he was a relatively big deal in the early comics, Thor had to team up with Hercules to fight him. Nowadays he's just another super , actually closer to what Ares is in Greeks mythology, while DC Ares still is a legitimate threat to WW and others superheros
Amazo vs Vision would be such a good story line!
When are we going to get a Marvel women and DC women video?
Would be cool to see Captain America take on Captain Nazi(Yes, this is an actual character under DC)
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It would be real awkward for Hercules and Thor whenever the Avengers host a party, considering Thor just beat Herc's half-brother.
Hell yeah brother
As a lifelong Marvel/DC dork, I've been dreaming up these kinds of cross-company matches since I was a kid. I've even had one adapted into a comic (Darkseid Versus Galactus: the Hunger 1995).
This was a really fun video!
Iron Man vs Lex has been waiting to happen since Byrne reinvented him as the evil Tony Stark in 1985.
However, the ultimate clash would be Lex vs Doom.
Toy Man sucks, but I bet Grant Morrison could write the hell out of that story! I could also see Toy Man get mixed up in a partnership or rivalry with Marvel's Arcade.
Thor versus DC Aries would be great! Same with Mongul.
I'd also like to see Thor have to battle his way through Apokolips and Darkseid. Possibly with the aid of the New Gods.
KGBeast is a perfect rival for Captain America!
Deathstroke is no weekender but he would get his ass handed to him by Cap. And not because Cap is a superior tactician. At the end of the day, Cap has heart and indomitable will. In the face of guys like Deathstroke he always rises to the occasion.
Yes, Cap would have issues with Waller, but in a combined Marvel/DC universe, she would have her hands full dealing with Nick Fury. Likewise, the Suicide Squad would have The Thunderbolts to contend with.
Hawkeye vs Black Mask would be awesome! But I'd rather see Black Mask take on Daredevil. Or Black Widow. Or Silver Sable.
Hawkeye vs Deadshot would be awesome. But Deadshot would be screwed if he had to deal with Bullseye. Deadshot vs Punisher would be fun too.
Hulk vs Parasite would be awesome! I think Parasite could probably take him. Although it also depends on which Hulk he's dealing with. Banner is smarter than Parasite. So, a Hulk with Banner in control prevails.
Hulk vs Doomsday makes sense since Doomsday is just the Hulk.
I think Hulk would win based on his experience. But it would be the fight of his life.
I also think Doomsday would lose to Gladiator from the Shi'ar's Royal Guard. Still, Marvel's heaviest hitter is a deep cut super boxer called The Champion of the Universe.
He would tear Doomsday up.
Vision vs Amazo is an awesome matchup! Didn't they fight in the JLA vs Avengers comic? I can't remember it's been like 20 years.
Amazo is basically the DC version of Marvel's Super Adaptoid. Or more like the other way around since Amazo came first.
Vision would be a great match for Braniac. As would Silver Surfer or Captain Marvel.