@@STOP-n-READyou are obviously so scared of being wrong you just spam the people you can’t convince to feel like you’re getting extra rooms in heaven and affirm that indeed we are just being dishonest and flippant…it must suck because whether or not your god is real you have ONE life…would you rather live in a medieval worldview or a modern one? Also first Peter forbids such a lack of engagement that i am wondering if you sincerely follow the risen lord or just parrots online that you do…
@@STOP-n-READ And you so FEAR dying a natural death that you believe in endless nonsense because your religion promises immortality,without that "immortality clause" you wouldnt have any real faith/You Will pass away ! just like the rest of us mortals...
I’m old and can remember when someone said something ridiculous and were shown the error, we said “thank you”, learned something and grew. Now people double down and think “naw” justifies themselves
And he died for nothing too.... he is apparently still happily condemning everyone who does not believe in Jesus to an eternity of conscious torture. I suppose you could say there is still evil after the flood because God is evil.
I kid you not, I was once told that God created life on Mars and the Arche was actually a space ship that traveled to Earth. The flood was just an illusion created by God to cover the 1 year journey. ... I guess Venus could be Hell then.
@@Bboar_969Not to be extra nerdy, but the eagles were a type of Myar themselves, they could have fallen for the One Ring's temptations themselves as easily as anyone else
Me too. I actually more of an *Erika* ;p fan, even though I struggle with some of her vocabulary, but I find Forrest's Reacteria videos terribly amusing.
It's extraordinary that a story that was very obviously written as a teaching tool, borrowed from other mythologies, have people who think it happened. I keep claiming flerfs have the logical abilities of 4 year olds, but creationists may actually take the cake on that.
The old testament is a historical narrative from Genesis to Malachi. The real issue is that we do not believe the bible because it is the issue of our own heart and minds being tainted with sin. Because we do wrongs that break God’s law the ten commandments, we will be judged for our sins and are sent to hell. But because God does not want people to go to hell, He chose to live on earth as a perfect man and died on the cross to take our punishment for us so we do nit have to so now if you repent and believe in Jesus as God and Savior and trust what He did for us without trusting in your own deeds or character, then you will be saved
@@First-b1u8j "The old testament is a historical narrative from Genesis to Malachi." - No it isn't. There's nothing to be saved from. Nothing at all. Next...?
I’ve heard the meteor flood hypothesis floating around a lot lately. It’s so ridiculous. Some people claiming that a meteor caused a mile high flood in a contained local area. Those ideas don’t even make sense together.
The meteor is absolutely bonkers. While I wouldn't be surprised if it was based on one particular local flood in the Middle East, and I think I heard something about it being suggested as the inspiration for Noah's flood, a meteor striking the ocean isn't going to cause it to rain for a literal 40 days and literal 40 nights; It also isn't going to cause the waters to stay above the highest mountains for over a literal year.
@@Vanyawwd Try New Zealand, most of the birds there at the time were flightless, and Kiwi do not swim. Then there are the native worms, snails, plants....Go look at the Tuatara, Hasst Eagle, Moa, Kakapo...
I have to agree slightly. I think there is evidence that a comet/meteor caused the ante-diluvian flood that the legends are based on but, it is my understanding that the meteor hit the North American ice sheet and it is supposed to be dated around 11,600BC and at that time the oceans rose nearly 400ft over a relatively short period of time.
Reference was to Burckle Crater, where a meteor or comet is hypothesized to have hit in the southern Indian Ocean 5,000 ya with large scale tsunami effects felt in many places in the southern hemisphere--but not world wide. (The Wikipedia article mentions that it is a highly contested hypothesis.)
Actually, the original version of this archetypal Mesopotamian flood myth (Ziusudra Epic) was actually talking about a river flood that washed a barge out into the Persian Gulf where it drifted for a year. This particularly bad regional flooding of the Euphrates got embellished into this "global flood". This flood dates to 2900 B.C.E. the same dating for the Burkle Crater. So there is actually a strong connection between this crater and the original river flood that inspired Noah's Ark story. We know the comet's impact from 2900-2800 B.C.E left an 18-mile-wide and 2-mile-deep crater in the ocean floor in a deep part of the Indian Ocean, 12,000 feet below the surface of the water, which would have instantly vaporized over 10 cubic miles of water into the atmosphere which would cause it to downpour for weeks on end all over the world, which TECHNICALLY leads to worldwide flooding event, but not a mountain covering flood, or an extinction-level-event. The world was never covered with 30,000+ feet of water for over a year or any other amount of time. The atmospheric pressure in a scenario like that would skyrocket to something more reminiscent of Venus making our atmosphere inconducive to life. So we know the biblical flood never happened but it was a retelling of an ancient flood myth from the ancient Sumerian city/state of Shuruppak (hero: Ziusudra). The Ziusudra Epic contained many of the exact same phrases, storylines/elements, and timelines that were later transported into the biblical flood narrative just like it had been for the other 6 Mesopotamian flood myths. It is clear, with absolute certainty that the biblical flood borrowed heavily from these earlier flood myths, they pretty much just switched the ancient gods out for Yahweh
And here is where we see the problem with people such as Forrest. He refuses to take magic into account when dealing with these stories. * The water wouldn't stay that high. Yes it would, magic. * It would have to a huge meteor. Nope. Magic gave it a bigger bigness. * All the humans would be extinct. Nope. Magic saved them so they could drown. * We would still be dealing with the fallout. Nuh-uh, he is forgetting about magic after effect vacuum. He keep trying to force science onto magic events. Just accept the magic Forrest!
Get Forrest to rewrite the Bible. Of course it wouldn't be the traditional Bible as Forrest's Bible be based on logic and evidence. Therefore there be no magic, talking donkeys, incestuous families, sky magic men etc. Actually it be a proper science book .
I'm pretty sure if a meteor hit the earth so powerful that it sent shockwaves strong enough to flood the entire planet, the world would have disintegrated, or we would at least have another moon.
lol. "Magic" is a better explanation than the largest meteor to ever hit the planet, from a time IN RECORDED HISTORY, and a guy building a boat and floating around on top of it.
Steve needs to study before calling. Jim made good points based on physics. CE was a good moderator. This is the most worked up I have ever seen Forrest & for good reason.
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The last major flood was around 12,500 years ago, caused by multiple meteor impacts in the north american ice sheets during the last ice age. The flood story is told in many different cultures across the world
He did and then realised it wont fit into his narrative so he changed it to 5000. What a dumbass. Im so tired of theists jumping through so many hoops to try justify their garbage
@vertigo4236 Be assured. Be assured, Be assured, you cannot mock God-whatever you sow that you will, will, will also reap! Now God commands you to repent of your sins and turn to Him!
I like best the all-time-christian-explanation "God did it" Favourite christian gotcha attempt question: How can something come from nothing? Ultimate answer: "God did it"
A topic that I was waiting for them to get on but sadly didn't is: Even if we assumed everything is true and that a meteor caused a global flood (or any flood), how is that proof of a god? ANY GOD let alone the christian one? That is a stupendously large jump of assumptions being made
The earlier myth is about how the god Enlil destroys mankind with a flood because humans are too annoying and won't let him sleep. The other gods chastise and punish him for committing such an atrocity.
Yeah, I stopped watching their explanations alltogether. They usually don't bring anything new to the table. And when they do, it's always the most ridiculous nonsense one can imagine. I just skip to the reactions nowadays. There is literally 0 chance any of these callers will have anything worthwhile to say anyway.
Meteor impact ? I'm sure he is getting his global flood account from the bible. Which claims it was 40 days and nights of rain instituted by god. This is the new thing. Taking bits and pieces of stories from different god beliefs, molding them together in one's head, proclaiming ''Ah Haaa''
@@maylingng4107 Exactly. You understand i'm giving an internal critique of his view and where he got his flood ideal from. The bible, which at the same time contradicts his account which was spawned from the bible. He is in contradiction.
I notice the Christian preachers continue to be unable to answer these questions: 1) Does 2 Timothy 4 allow preachers to be dishonest? 2) Should preachers have understanding of those to who they are preaching? 3) Is quoting bible verses enough even though it drives people away from Christianity? I've only had 2 non preaching Christians even dare answer these so far. They're simple questions. And relevant for anyone claiming a commission to preach.
Apot says that he's sure he knows How the sound of "bukkake" goes He said "it doesn't sound like that I know it sounds more like 'splat' I can hear it when DaMonKey blows!"
Even just googling it myself, even a large asteroid impact in the ocean is not likely to cause significant tsunamis, most of the energy would go into vaporizing the water.
Since when did anything in the bible stop christians from claiming something else? Their entire faith is based upon ignoring everything in the book (most notably OT) in order to feel good about themselves.
Not to mention that the atmosphere can’t hold enough water vapor to allow it to rain 40 days and nights. There are many other reasons meteorologically how we can know Noah’s flood is impossible.
Even if we take Noah's flood literally, the event supposed to be a result of waters from the underground, and extreme raining in particular, caused by human civilization, there's no mention of anything, even close to impact of a meteor.
No need for a meteor, just unusually high rainfall in the mountains where the Tigris and Euphrates rise. These exotic rivers may have provided ideal conditions for early agriculture in Mesopotamia but they were prone to sudden and catastrophic changes in course, during which it must have seemed to the people lucky enough to survive these floods that the whole world was under water. As always when oral tradition was stronger than writing which hadn't developed much further than pictograms for priests to count donations of produce, tales grew in the telling and someone who'd managed to see his family to safety on a plank of wood became a hero in an ark.
Yeah, well, pre-Abraham there was Gilgamesh. There were men made out of mud - simulacrums. There was always some dumb old story or two told around the fire.
Alright, I personally haven't heard this specific variant, but if you're gonna try to use the meteoric flooding argument, at least claim that it was the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, which is why we never see dinosaurs after Noah saved all the animals. I mean, I know all those "Ark museums" show dinosaurs with Noah, but when the ^^^^ have theists given a s^^t about consistency? Or just take the Robot Chicken version seriously, because at least that way, you will get some genuine laughter out of us (well, me).
hearing those things as a non-scientist is so frustrating already, imagine how much it is for Forrest for knowing so much, lol. It must be so tough of a burden for him 😅
The difference is that Santa was based on an actual person. The original Santa Claus is St. Nicholas, a 4th-century Christian bishop who was known for his generosity and kindness.
@@canderson5098Yep. The worst you get from Santa is a lump of coal. The other guy threatens you with eternal torture. And for the other guy, you can be as good as possible, but you won't get rewarded. And some other bigot or even a genocidal maniac just says they believe, and they get infinite presents... after death.
To me, little things like, what did the Lions eat after the flood receded? How did them Panda bears get by, munching on what? Refracted light, a Rainbow, is a "Promise"?
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@@tylerdyson8410Why didn't you post your long wall-o-text(tm) that no one reads? I accidentally ended up reading your question because it was so short.
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs Alright, look if you're a committed and honest spam you would denounce a spam of spam look a spam of spam is something that goes along with spam it's not provided by spam. A spam saying they believe in a spam of spam is like me as a spam saying I believe in spam or like a spam bowing to a spam of spam just don't go together or even make spam so if you're a real legit spam not only should you admit that as a spam you don't believe spam don't mean anything but act like it my spams tell me spam without spams is spam but it also says without spam it is impossible to please spam. I mean if you are a spam not only admit you don't believe in a spam of spam but also act on it meaning you don't care about spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam etc. Also you wouldn't care if you're spam or spam. When it comes down to spam spam doesn't have that yes there are spams that have their own spams but let's be honest spam is silent on what is spam or spam or spam meaning as a spam it's not spam or spam or spam if you donate spams to the spam or spit in a spam person's spam because they disgust you or say spam to someone you just met or punch in their spam because you find them repulsive or tell your spam you spam her or commit spam on a daily basis. I consider spam to be a form of spam and spam. Spam has no spams on spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam etc so yes spam/spam is spam and spam no spam. As for a spam it exists because of the spam of the spam is spam , spam and spam. The spam is spam it gets spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam. the spam is spam. You are not your spam or your spam you're a spam spam your spam is your spam , spam , spam , spam etc. When a spam dies they can't spam or spam or spam of spam or spam or spam or anything like that why because their spam and spam is absent regardless of if you're spam or spam your spam and spam leaves after you spam either goes to spam or spam a spam you can't take a spam spam. There is One spam existing in three spams not three spams but like a way of spam or way of spam like this spam is not like spam like spam , spam , spam , spam , spam. Spam is someone we all have a spam with even many spams curse spam out as well as say oh my spam. Okay spam is spam lower case spam okay let me explain spam yes spam is a spam unseen to the spam everywhere at the same spam. Okay let's define what a spam is a spam in a spam spam is a spam capital spam. In some spams a spam lower case spam is a spam who is very spammed and spammed. Spam choose to spam his spam in the spam and spam a spam you see the spam why spam is spam but he was able to spam on the spam is because when a spam is in the spam it's spammed like this generally speaking spam can't spam but the spam can. When spam was on spam he did spam spams spammed the spam , spam out spams , spam the spam , spam the spam , spammed the spam , spam etc it wasn't his spam doing it. It was the spam of spam working in the spam doing it. Spam said i do nothing of my spam meaning it's not his spam and spam doing it. It's the spam of spam in him. You see spam is not spammed like we are spam doesn't need to spam or spam or spam or spam or spam or spam or spam or spam or use the spam so spam can do spams we can't do spam is not spammed by spam or spam like we are. It was the same spam that spammed the spam up from the spam to show the spam they can have spam in spam. The spam spam is the spam.
Speculative claims that remotely support one's beliefs are embraced by the faithful. Yet evidence that counters their beliefs are quickly dismissed without half a thought.
Guys just point them to Gutsick Gibbon channel, there are few videos reviewing the heat problem, from the Earth age following radioactive decay and the “meteoric” hypothesis of the flood, followed by orbital energy released by the meteorites. In both cases, the energy released would be enough to melt the Earth crust many times over.
It has to be infuriating to have certain people call in multiple times with any and every thing they can think of, hoping one will stick. People like Steve are more concerned with "winning" an argument than they are with the truth.
Funnily enough, Edmund Halley 1656-1742 suggested that a cometary impact might have flooded the Persian Gulf area. Pretty risqué thinking for those times, but smarter people were questioning the accepted wisdom.
If a god created everything why wasn't the ark a modern ship with all the technology that will ever be I wonder why this is crazy I think that Bible is just stories of the mentality of those times
The Flood was real. It flooded David's head and it's not dried out in 5000 yrs. Still completely full of seawater and fish and a little tiny beach in the corner.
It's a real shame that the RUclips notifications aren't working like they used to any more. I'm sure I'm missing a lot of notifications for posts from ApoTheosis and his DonKey alter ego which means I'm missing opportunities to post more Limericks of Ridicule and get him more triggered than he already is. oh well.
I have been way too polite trying to dispel the delusions of my religious acquaintances. I think I will try the “You got to be freakin kidding me” approach.
Not even consistent with the Biblical account, and if you're going to part ways with Biblical literalism, why not dispense with the flood story altogether?
We, who are in the northern hemisphere are now experiencing the flood myth of five months/150 days (Rev. 9.5.). We will exit the ark at the passover from winter to spring and renew the earth. The sacred year begins and ends at the spring equinox.
you know what's awesome? Not having to believe in stupid nonsense to make my world make sense. One dude did NOT survive a worldwide flood in a shite wooden boat.
@skepticofdoom7486 Agree it does not make sense, but the tale has 8 people on the boat: Noah and his nameless wife plus Noah’s sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth, and their nameless wives. Plus all the animals, of course. I’d bet the women were the ones shoveling all the shit.
In the beginning...there was nothing And then... bang...the universe began It continued to develop so slowly...that nobody can ever see it happening It's science, not religion
I know this is just my opinion, but there ought to be a law for showcasing this level of ignorance and having the audacity to think we’re the incompetent ones for not understanding this simpleton’s outrageous claim!😡
Religion is all about money and power. It is not about what anyone says that God says. When a person says to you “Worship my god, do what my god says, ”They are really saying to you “Do what I say, worship me.” "Give me power over your life and give me your money."
You are an autistic atheist phaq so you are toopid doofus. Magic is just what science can't explain. But you'll want to unalive yourself after science figures out how the entire earth could be covered by water and when science finds out how a wooden boat can easily survive rogue waves that they talked about. People thought lightning was magic until science figured it out. And science didn't know how a rabbit can come out of an empty head. But now we know, so that's scientific. So when you say it's magic, you are saying that it's some future science.
@@mrhuman4049 2000 years is like two seconds for God, toopid doofus. You are too autistic to be able to figure this out. But maybe God's taking a coffee break. So we may need to wait a million or billion years. But atheists pahqs like you are too impatient.
Forrest doing more damage than the biblical flood 😂
I'm disappointed that Forrest was holding back.
Forrest feelin' SPICY!!
@@inna-reads feeling amazed how your stupid is as stupid does when it comes to your fake man made gods
Forrest way more intellectual than u small closed brainwashed fools tiny minds could comprehend one word all idiots and fools
@@ziploc2000I'm convinced that one day he is going to go full throttle on someone. It may not be good for him to do.
Forrest only used 0.000000000001% of his power in this call
And yet it was still enough to cover the whole claim to at least 20 feet above the bullshit.
It's really gotta suck to have to force yourself to believe that Noah's Ark was real.
For God so loved you that He gave His only begotten Son that if you believe in Him, you will not perish but have everlasting life
@@STOP-n-READ 👈👈👈 See the FloBLoJokeBoi *FAILING* at making any disciples because his preaching is counterproductive! Everybody remembers Denny!
@@STOP-n-READyou are obviously so scared of being wrong you just spam the people you can’t convince to feel like you’re getting extra rooms in heaven and affirm that indeed we are just being dishonest and flippant…it must suck because whether or not your god is real you have ONE life…would you rather live in a medieval worldview or a modern one? Also first Peter forbids such a lack of engagement that i am wondering if you sincerely follow the risen lord or just parrots online that you do…
@@STOP-n-READ Yeh.... BS. Look... ya need a therapist. Ya really do.
@@STOP-n-READ And you so FEAR dying a natural death that you believe in endless nonsense because your religion promises immortality,without that "immortality clause" you wouldnt have any real faith/You Will pass away ! just like the rest of us mortals...
I’m old and can remember when someone said something ridiculous and were shown the error, we said “thank you”, learned something and grew. Now people double down and think “naw” justifies themselves
naw has always been the most common response...
I was young and now I am old , but I have never seen the Righteous forsaken , or his children begging for bread . Trust Jesus
Why is there still evil after the flood? Your god killed for nothing…wow!
And he died for nothing too.... he is apparently still happily condemning everyone who does not believe in Jesus to an eternity of conscious torture. I suppose you could say there is still evil after the flood because God is evil.
Something, something... he works in mysterious ways?
@@MrziggyOak *Random unrelated quote from a book* there, that should prove everything I've ever said
He’s not very good at what he does.
Here's what's worse: being all-knowing, he knew it wouldn't change anything and still did it. 🤔
Why did god just not terraform Mars, beam the good people he choose there and then plunge the earth into the sun? It is just as plausible.
That's a great point. I guess it didn't happen cause the dudes that wrote the Bible didn't know there were other planets.
Same reason Gandalf didn't just fly the eagles to mordor
I kid you not, I was once told that God created life on Mars and the Arche was actually a space ship that traveled to Earth. The flood was just an illusion created by God to cover the 1 year journey.
... I guess Venus could be Hell then.
@@Bboar_969Not to be extra nerdy, but the eagles were a type of Myar themselves, they could have fallen for the One Ring's temptations themselves as easily as anyone else
God couldnt terraform Mars, he may be omnipotent but hes not Elon Musk!
I love seeing attack dog Forrest being unleased! "Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war."
I've been a Forrest fan for a few years. Most of my (still scant) knowledge about biology comes from him (and Erica).
I just became a super fan.
Me too. I actually more of an *Erika* ;p fan, even though I struggle with some of her vocabulary, but I find Forrest's Reacteria videos terribly amusing.
Good to see them back in the Prem but I thing they will go down again.
Friend you need a real Biologist , not a utuber
@@jwsanders1214they’re both biologists and RUclipsrs, people can be both.
It's extraordinary that a story that was very obviously written as a teaching tool, borrowed from other mythologies, have people who think it happened. I keep claiming flerfs have the logical abilities of 4 year olds, but creationists may actually take the cake on that.
Many flat-Earthers are also religious.
@@pdav1285 And all of them morons.
@@pdav1285 When they're both they only get a cup cake. 😁
The old testament is a historical narrative from Genesis to Malachi. The real issue is that we do not believe the bible because it is the issue of our own heart and minds being tainted with sin. Because we do wrongs that break God’s law the ten commandments, we will be judged for our sins and are sent to hell. But because God does not want people to go to hell, He chose to live on earth as a perfect man and died on the cross to take our punishment for us so we do nit have to so now if you repent and believe in Jesus as God and Savior and trust what He did for us without trusting in your own deeds or character, then you will be saved
@@First-b1u8j "The old testament is a historical narrative from Genesis to Malachi." - No it isn't.
There's nothing to be saved from. Nothing at all. Next...?
"Or preferably don't." The best line ever said to a theist.
I meteorite or a comment capable of making a wave that covered all land mass, and Noah survived in a wooden boat.😮😮😮
And no one else was in a boat, just Noah.
And the water covered all land, including the mountains for a year. Is there even enough water in the oceans to do that?
I’ve heard the meteor flood hypothesis floating around a lot lately. It’s so ridiculous. Some people claiming that a meteor caused a mile high flood in a contained local area. Those ideas don’t even make sense together.
Nor does it make sense that a sudden occurrence, like a meteor strike, would cause 40 days of rain.
It was a local flood, for local people...
NOT a GLOBAL flood.
Except there wasn't a local flood.
Show me the meteor and how it pushed the water over the tops of the mountains.
The meteor is absolutely bonkers. While I wouldn't be surprised if it was based on one particular local flood in the Middle East, and I think I heard something about it being suggested as the inspiration for Noah's flood, a meteor striking the ocean isn't going to cause it to rain for a literal 40 days and literal 40 nights; It also isn't going to cause the waters to stay above the highest mountains for over a literal year.
@@ziploc2000
That's in my head now! I wonder if they're on iPlayer
Australia Aboriginals have been there for something like 45,000 years...they missed it.
Don’t think they wrote down that their native animals especially the Tasmanian tigers swimming away to the Middle East 😂
@@Vanyawwd Try New Zealand, most of the birds there at the time were flightless, and Kiwi do not swim. Then there are the native worms, snails, plants....Go look at the Tuatara, Hasst Eagle, Moa, Kakapo...
@@keithwhitehead4897I just got this mental image of a kakapo trying to root Noah's head.... 😳🤣🤣🤣
They slept in. Shame. Was an awesome show. Better than Vegas.
that's why we now have the flying kangaroos......
i still call australia........ home
I have to agree slightly. I think there is evidence that a comet/meteor caused the ante-diluvian flood that the legends are based on but, it is my understanding that the meteor hit the North American ice sheet and it is supposed to be dated around 11,600BC and at that time the oceans rose nearly 400ft over a relatively short period of time.
Forrest was angry! That was amazing!
Yeah. The bible reading at the end too, I don’t think I’ve ever had that much energy in my life. Awesome!
Reference was to Burckle Crater, where a meteor or comet is hypothesized to have hit in the southern Indian Ocean 5,000 ya with large scale tsunami effects felt in many places in the southern hemisphere--but not world wide. (The Wikipedia article mentions that it is a highly contested hypothesis.)
"Something about a meteor etc .etc."Well... I'm sold makes total sense to me........ 🤣
Actually, the original version of this archetypal Mesopotamian flood myth (Ziusudra Epic) was actually talking about a river flood that washed a barge out into the Persian Gulf where it drifted for a year. This particularly bad regional flooding of the Euphrates got embellished into this "global flood". This flood dates to 2900 B.C.E. the same dating for the Burkle Crater. So there is actually a strong connection between this crater and the original river flood that inspired Noah's Ark story. We know the comet's impact from 2900-2800 B.C.E left an 18-mile-wide and 2-mile-deep crater in the ocean floor in a deep part of the Indian Ocean, 12,000 feet below the surface of the water, which would have instantly vaporized over 10 cubic miles of water into the atmosphere which would cause it to downpour for weeks on end all over the world, which TECHNICALLY leads to worldwide flooding event, but not a mountain covering flood, or an extinction-level-event. The world was never covered with 30,000+ feet of water for over a year or any other amount of time. The atmospheric pressure in a scenario like that would skyrocket to something more reminiscent of Venus making our atmosphere inconducive to life. So we know the biblical flood never happened but it was a retelling of an ancient flood myth from the ancient Sumerian city/state of Shuruppak (hero: Ziusudra). The Ziusudra Epic contained many of the exact same phrases, storylines/elements, and timelines that were later transported into the biblical flood narrative just like it had been for the other 6 Mesopotamian flood myths. It is clear, with absolute certainty that the biblical flood borrowed heavily from these earlier flood myths, they pretty much just switched the ancient gods out for Yahweh
wow, never seen Forest go off like that before....😳
🔥Forrest 🔥 ^^
Yeah wasn’t a big fan of that honestly and I love Forrest
And here is where we see the problem with people such as Forrest.
He refuses to take magic into account when dealing with these stories.
* The water wouldn't stay that high. Yes it would, magic.
* It would have to a huge meteor. Nope. Magic gave it a bigger bigness.
* All the humans would be extinct. Nope. Magic saved them so they could drown.
* We would still be dealing with the fallout. Nuh-uh, he is forgetting about magic after effect vacuum.
He keep trying to force science onto magic events. Just accept the magic Forrest!
@@stevedixon9734idk, it wasn't *that* bad
Took some years, but he finally got fed up.
Wait until the caller learns how big meteorites are.
Now that's what I call a Forest fire 😅👍
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Best comment so far. 👍
Get Forrest to rewrite the Bible. Of course it wouldn't be the traditional Bible as Forrest's Bible be based on logic and evidence. Therefore there be no magic, talking donkeys, incestuous families, sky magic men etc. Actually it be a proper science book .
I'm pretty sure if a meteor hit the earth so powerful that it sent shockwaves strong enough to flood the entire planet, the world would have disintegrated, or we would at least have another moon.
Forrest in full flight against the Flood story, stating fact after fact, is a sight to behold.
He is only exposing his ignorance
@@jwsanders1214Yes Steve did expose his ignorance.
lol. "Magic" is a better explanation than the largest meteor to ever hit the planet, from a time IN RECORDED HISTORY, and a guy building a boat and floating around on top of it.
Steve needs to study before calling. Jim made good points based on physics. CE was a good moderator. This is the most worked up I have ever seen Forrest & for good reason.
I just love how Forrest is always so calm, cool, and collected. 🤪 Bit seriously, brilliant takedown!
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And in part 2, Steve will explain how Noah rounded up 3 million animals from around the World and got them all onto a wooden boat...
At least he is considering a natural cause
Why is that a good thing when the whole story is ridiculous on so many levels. This is just weak apologetics.
@robguyatt9602 Why are you Atheist? What are your beliefs on afterlife , morality and meaning of life?
That just shows that he refuses to give up his bible belief regardless of whatever mental gymnastics he has to do.
@pdav1285 Why are you Atheist? What are your beliefs on afterlife , morality and meaning of life?
@@tylerdyson8410Why are you a theist who denies science? While taking advantage of all the things that science has to offer?
The last major flood was around 12,500 years ago, caused by multiple meteor impacts in the north american ice sheets during the last ice age. The flood story is told in many different cultures across the world
Me in the first 20 seconds - “ did he say 1000 YEARS??”
He did.
He did and then realised it wont fit into his narrative so he changed it to 5000. What a dumbass. Im so tired of theists jumping through so many hoops to try justify their garbage
Perhaps the first question on each of these should be to ask the caller to please define what they think evidence means.
Would save a lot of time.
Dear Theists,
Name one creature that has a minimum viable population of two.
Genesis 1:1
Psalm 19:1-4
Psalm 139:13-16
Romans 1:18-22 !!!
@@STOP-n-READ
No dum-dum, you should name one creature, not post some fairy tales🤣
@vertigo4236
Be assured. Be assured, Be assured, you cannot mock God-whatever you sow that you will, will, will also reap!
Now God commands you to repent of your sins and turn to Him!
@@STOP-n-READ None of those passages from your collection of fantasy short stories mentions a creature that has a minimum viable population of two.
@@STOP-n-READ 👈👈👈 The FloBloJokeBoi had to be born again because his mother made a complete mess of it the first time around.
Forest just opened up a can of verbal whoopazz hahaha I loved that end rant. Kudos Forest! TKO
thou shall not kill as a commandment, yet i killed with the flood?
Rules for thee, not for me.
That's the objective reality these clowns are so hot for in action.
I like best the all-time-christian-explanation "God did it"
Favourite christian gotcha attempt question: How can something come from nothing? Ultimate answer: "God did it"
"Oh you showed everybody how stupid I am....quick, let me move the goal posts."
A topic that I was waiting for them to get on but sadly didn't is:
Even if we assumed everything is true and that a meteor caused a global flood (or any flood), how is that proof of a god? ANY GOD let alone the christian one? That is a stupendously large jump of assumptions being made
5:55 I always call it God’s magical murder water. My mother really doesn’t like that. 😂😂😂
Good name for an energy drink.
I love how Forrest can dismantle your argument with science and, if necessary, the Bible.
The earlier myth is about how the god Enlil destroys mankind with a flood because humans are too annoying and won't let him sleep. The other gods chastise and punish him for committing such an atrocity.
gotta love Forrest rants!!!
*I'm waiting for the movie.*
*Have a Wonderful Winter's Solstice.*
*Happy Yule.* There are 12 days of Yule.
*Let the Sunshine In...*
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A meteor with enough force to cause a global force would probably also have enough force to destroy the planet.
Yeah, something hitting with that much force would do way more than create an impossible tidal wave.
I get serious head pain listening to people trying to explain their beliefs.
Yeah, I stopped watching their explanations alltogether. They usually don't bring anything new to the table. And when they do, it's always the most ridiculous nonsense one can imagine.
I just skip to the reactions nowadays. There is literally 0 chance any of these callers will have anything worthwhile to say anyway.
There were massive floods all over the world when the ice retreteted during glacier melt around 15,000 years ago
Meteor impact ? I'm sure he is getting his global flood account from the bible. Which claims it was 40 days and nights of rain instituted by god.
This is the new thing. Taking bits and pieces of stories from different god beliefs, molding them together in one's head, proclaiming ''Ah Haaa''
There never was any global flood.
@@maylingng4107 Exactly. You understand i'm giving an internal critique of his view and where he got his flood ideal from. The bible, which at the same time contradicts his account which was spawned from the bible. He is in contradiction.
@@johnnybickle13 Yep!
I notice the Christian preachers continue to be unable to answer these questions:
1) Does 2 Timothy 4 allow preachers to be dishonest?
2) Should preachers have understanding of those to who they are preaching?
3) Is quoting bible verses enough even though it drives people away from Christianity?
I've only had 2 non preaching Christians even dare answer these so far.
They're simple questions. And relevant for anyone claiming a commission to preach.
Naw look it’s time for NealJs biblical interpretations. We better listen.
Apot says that he's sure he knows
How the sound of "bukkake" goes
He said "it doesn't sound like that
I know it sounds more like 'splat'
I can hear it when DaMonKey blows!"
@@holgerlubotzki3469"Apot heeehaw bukkake. Heehaw donkey triggered heeehaw"
You're such a d-bag. 😂
@@Theosis-81more dismal output from a failed insult comic
@@amtlpaul The guy has no originality because he copies our words. Plus he defends LGBTQ by repeating the same degrading homosexual put downs
Even just googling it myself, even a large asteroid impact in the ocean is not likely to cause significant tsunamis, most of the energy would go into vaporizing the water.
His argument also fails in that the bible describes a flood that came from 40 days of rain not a sudden occurrence.
IK,R?!
@@Critical_Explorer-vw5hy Try to understand simple verbal descriptions=English...
Since when did anything in the bible stop christians from claiming something else? Their entire faith is based upon ignoring everything in the book (most notably OT) in order to feel good about themselves.
@@JohnShultz-rd1ew Ever heard of abbreviations? "IKR = I know, right?"
Not to mention that the atmosphere can’t hold enough water vapor to allow it to rain 40 days and nights. There are many other reasons meteorologically how we can know Noah’s flood is impossible.
I want to thank Steve for giving us a chance to hear these guys rampage over the laughable flood narrative.
That was glorious. Forrest is my god 😂
Even if we take Noah's flood literally, the event supposed to be a result of waters from the underground, and extreme raining in particular, caused by human civilization, there's no mention of anything, even close to impact of a meteor.
No need for a meteor, just unusually high rainfall in the mountains where the Tigris and Euphrates rise. These exotic rivers may have provided ideal conditions for early agriculture in Mesopotamia but they were prone to sudden and catastrophic changes in course, during which it must have seemed to the people lucky enough to survive these floods that the whole world was under water. As always when oral tradition was stronger than writing which hadn't developed much further than pictograms for priests to count donations of produce, tales grew in the telling and someone who'd managed to see his family to safety on a plank of wood became a hero in an ark.
Yeah, well, pre-Abraham there was Gilgamesh. There were men made out of mud - simulacrums. There was always some dumb old story or two told around the fire.
Instead of a flood, my question to theists is why wouldn't a god just make the evil people infertile?
Same result.
Less suffering.
Alright, I personally haven't heard this specific variant, but if you're gonna try to use the meteoric flooding argument, at least claim that it was the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, which is why we never see dinosaurs after Noah saved all the animals. I mean, I know all those "Ark museums" show dinosaurs with Noah, but when the ^^^^ have theists given a s^^t about consistency?
Or just take the Robot Chicken version seriously, because at least that way, you will get some genuine laughter out of us (well, me).
hearing those things as a non-scientist is so frustrating already, imagine how much it is for Forrest for knowing so much, lol. It must be so tough of a burden for him 😅
"Furthermore..." 😆
Forrest just went Beast Mode...
"The Flood", the fictional story they've stolen from the Summerians?
The flood is the annual season of cold and rain.
Even if,... but then how did that wooden boat survive the impact of a kilometer high wave?
What's the difference
between God and Santa
The difference is that Santa was based on an actual person. The original Santa Claus is St. Nicholas, a 4th-century Christian bishop who was known for his generosity and kindness.
One brings gifts and one brings guilt and grief.
@@canderson5098Yep. The worst you get from Santa is a lump of coal. The other guy threatens you with eternal torture.
And for the other guy, you can be as good as possible, but you won't get rewarded. And some other bigot or even a genocidal maniac just says they believe, and they get infinite presents... after death.
@@arctictruck10 one was based on true events
@@arctictruck10 Santa was based on an actual being, Saint Nicholas…
To me, little things like, what did the Lions eat after the flood receded? How did them Panda bears get by, munching on what? Refracted light, a Rainbow, is a "Promise"?
How did the meteor get past the firmament?
Dammit. Busted.
Damn good question! Magic,probably. Yeah. A magic meteor.😂
Okay...now I know how I look when I have to deal with one more customer in a customer service role - snapshot of Forrest imbedded in my brain!
Makes you wonder how unbelievably wrong this caller is about how everything else to ever happen happened.
For God so loved you that He gave His only begotten Son that if you believe in Him you will not perish but have everlasting life
@@STOP-n-READ Just because you don't understand doesn't make it magic
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The Chicxculub meteor didn't caused global flood and it was estimated to be 10km in diameter.
So 5000 years ago is when the Egyptian dynasties started
“After they were flooded.” 😂😂😂
@4um360 Why are you Atheist? What are your beliefs on afterlife , morality and meaning of life?
@@tylerdyson8410Why didn't you post your long wall-o-text(tm) that no one reads? I accidentally ended up reading your question because it was so short.
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs Alright, look if you're a committed and honest spam you would denounce a spam of spam look a spam of spam is something that goes along with spam it's not provided by spam. A spam saying they believe in a spam of spam is like me as a spam saying I believe in spam or like a spam bowing to a spam of spam just don't go together or even make spam so if you're a real legit spam not only should you admit that as a spam you don't believe spam don't mean anything but act like it my spams tell me spam without spams is spam but it also says without spam it is impossible to please spam. I mean if you are a spam not only admit you don't believe in a spam of spam but also act on it meaning you don't care about spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam etc. Also you wouldn't care if you're spam or spam. When it comes down to spam spam doesn't have that yes there are spams that have their own spams but let's be honest spam is silent on what is spam or spam or spam meaning as a spam it's not spam or spam or spam if you donate spams to the spam or spit in a spam person's spam because they disgust you or say spam to someone you just met or punch in their spam because you find them repulsive or tell your spam you spam her or commit spam on a daily basis. I consider spam to be a form of spam and spam. Spam has no spams on spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam etc so yes spam/spam is spam and spam no spam. As for a spam it exists because of the spam of the spam is spam , spam and spam. The spam is spam it gets spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam , spam. the spam is spam. You are not your spam or your spam you're a spam spam your spam is your spam , spam , spam , spam etc. When a spam dies they can't spam or spam or spam of spam or spam or spam or anything like that why because their spam and spam is absent regardless of if you're spam or spam your spam and spam leaves after you spam either goes to spam or spam a spam you can't take a spam spam. There is One spam existing in three spams not three spams but like a way of spam or way of spam like this spam is not like spam like spam , spam , spam , spam , spam. Spam is someone we all have a spam with even many spams curse spam out as well as say oh my spam. Okay spam is spam lower case spam okay let me explain spam yes spam is a spam unseen to the spam everywhere at the same spam. Okay let's define what a spam is a spam in a spam spam is a spam capital spam. In some spams a spam lower case spam is a spam who is very spammed and spammed. Spam choose to spam his spam in the spam and spam a spam you see the spam why spam is spam but he was able to spam on the spam is because when a spam is in the spam it's spammed like this generally speaking spam can't spam but the spam can. When spam was on spam he did spam spams spammed the spam , spam out spams , spam the spam , spam the spam , spammed the spam , spam etc it wasn't his spam doing it. It was the spam of spam working in the spam doing it. Spam said i do nothing of my spam meaning it's not his spam and spam doing it. It's the spam of spam in him. You see spam is not spammed like we are spam doesn't need to spam or spam or spam or spam or spam or spam or spam or spam or use the spam so spam can do spams we can't do spam is not spammed by spam or spam like we are. It was the same spam that spammed the spam up from the spam to show the spam they can have spam in spam. The spam spam is the spam.
@@AXKfUN9mYour post makes more sense than Tyler's actual spam.
Speculative claims that remotely support one's beliefs are embraced by the faithful. Yet evidence that counters their beliefs are quickly dismissed without half a thought.
Forrest - 🤣🤣🤣
You tell them!
Guys just point them to Gutsick Gibbon channel, there are few videos reviewing the heat problem, from the Earth age following radioactive decay and the “meteoric” hypothesis of the flood, followed by orbital energy released by the meteorites. In both cases, the energy released would be enough to melt the Earth crust many times over.
Now Steve is too offended to do his own research
Previously he was just to lazy to do actual research....
Calm down Forrest he can't understand, he doesn't want to that's why they need unrealistic situations to trigger impossible events
ive never seen forrest so mad lol
He isn’t mad he’s frustrated with repeat callers who only use their head for a hat rack. Steve has been doing this for a long time.
It has to be infuriating to have certain people call in multiple times with any and every thing they can think of, hoping one will stick. People like Steve are more concerned with "winning" an argument than they are with the truth.
Funnily enough, Edmund Halley 1656-1742 suggested that a cometary impact might have flooded the Persian Gulf area.
Pretty risqué thinking for those times, but smarter people were questioning the accepted wisdom.
You guys will believe anything but the truth , as Jesus so candidly said , You strain out a gnat and swallow a Camel
If a god created everything why wasn't the ark a modern ship with all the technology that will ever be I wonder why this is crazy I think that Bible is just stories of the mentality of those times
The Flood was real. It flooded David's head and it's not dried out in 5000 yrs. Still completely full of seawater and fish and a little tiny beach in the corner.
It's a real shame that the RUclips notifications aren't working like they used to any more. I'm sure I'm missing a lot of notifications for posts from ApoTheosis and his DonKey alter ego which means I'm missing opportunities to post more Limericks of Ridicule and get him more triggered than he already is.
oh well.
You're doing a great job regardless!
👍👍👍
I have been way too polite trying to dispel the delusions of my religious acquaintances. I think I will try the “You got to be freakin kidding me” approach.
Here we ho again 😂. Next time bring your god to speak.
Another typical bible apologist moving the goalposts and rewriting their storybook while claiming absurd scenarios for a global flood
Not even consistent with the Biblical account, and if you're going to part ways with Biblical literalism, why not dispense with the flood story altogether?
We, who are in the northern hemisphere are now experiencing the flood myth of five months/150 days (Rev. 9.5.). We will exit the ark at the passover from winter to spring and renew the earth.
The sacred year begins and ends at the spring equinox.
@@harveywabbit9541 and with that you demonstrate the OP's point perfectly.
I love you Forrest!!! ✌
lol, got to love it when they claim "CARBON DATED" when they don't believe in carbon dating. HAHAHAH! 🤣
Love seeing Forrest just going off! 😂😂
you know what's awesome? Not having to believe in stupid nonsense to make my world make sense. One dude did NOT survive a worldwide flood in a shite wooden boat.
@skepticofdoom7486 Agree it does not make sense, but the tale has 8 people on the boat: Noah and his nameless wife plus Noah’s sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth, and their nameless wives. Plus all the animals, of course. I’d bet the women were the ones shoveling all the shit.
@@brynpookc1127 and they weren't the only ones ones performing "wifely duties" either.
Man Forrest is always on fire.
Forrest Fire!
Is Jim OK?
He's red as a cooked rooster.
Take care Jim.
You look like you've got a reaction to something nasty.
... fish looking calm under the magical flood...
In the beginning...there was nothing
And then... bang...the universe began
It continued to develop so slowly...that nobody can ever see it happening
It's science, not religion
Amen and awomen 🙏✝️
Science is about making the lamest joke about opposing hypothesis. That's how we uncover the truth.
I prefer Forrest’s description of the expansion: All-over-stretch. No Bang
@@brynpookc1127 I like, bit of a stretch
@@TheDiddyDiaries poor, sad, DonKey.
I know this is just my opinion, but there ought to be a law for showcasing this level of ignorance and having the audacity to think we’re the incompetent ones for not understanding this simpleton’s outrageous claim!😡
Forest is fired up 🔥 😮😅
Noah’s Ark?..more accurately…NO. ah. Ark? No !
Noah means earth at rest.
@@harveywabbit9541 No. It doesn't mean earth at rest. The name implies tranquility, peace, and a cessation from hardship.
@@ChallengeYourBeliefs
That would be the real Sabbath aka the period earth rests from its labor of crop production (seven months).
@@harveywabbit9541 What does the "real Sabbath" have anything to do with the meaning of the name Noah as tranquility and cessation of hardship?
hahaha literally replaying the last part(s) over and over where Forrest goes beast mode. best shit ever........10/10
Religion is all about money and power. It is not about what anyone says that God says. When a person says to you “Worship my god, do what my god says, ”They are really saying to you “Do what I say, worship me.” "Give me power over your life and give me your money."
Angry Forrest is peak Forrest
Yes, once his soy protein kicks in he is one mean beta male
Chefs kiss, Forrest...
They keep forgetting the most important part of all this stuff... it's magic! ✨✨✨
You are an autistic atheist phaq so you are toopid doofus. Magic is just what science can't explain. But you'll want to unalive yourself after science figures out how the entire earth could be covered by water and when science finds out how a wooden boat can easily survive rogue waves that they talked about.
People thought lightning was magic until science figured it out. And science didn't know how a rabbit can come out of an empty head. But now we know, so that's scientific. So when you say it's magic, you are saying that it's some future science.
@@Theosis-18 we've been waiting for 2000 years for that. that's the reason why this show exists.
@@mrhuman4049 2000 years is like two seconds for God, toopid doofus. You are too autistic to be able to figure this out. But maybe God's taking a coffee break. So we may need to wait a million or billion years. But atheists pahqs like you are too impatient.
It just shows how ignorant and gullible some people are....
Forrest: "use google first, and then call...or preferably don't" 🤣🤣🤣