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@@Killeny94That is 100% true and instead of making warriors hard like MOP for example we need to let them be braindead spec with 0 dmg… Another 20 % nerf should do the job
huh? Drag those warriors in garbage tier what the hell lol In US region: top 100 3s, 1 is a warrior top 100 2s, 2 are warriors (same player) In EU region: top 100 3s, 5 warriors top 100 2s, 0 warrior Out of 400 top players across the EU and US region, there are 8 warriors (7 different players). How do you pull such a conclusion, that makes it logical to put them in A tier? Just legit curious lol
@@timsjolin6657 You missed "hot" before garbage lol Seriously, they're horrible and I do not understand how they can put them in A tier for pvp. Look at the ladder, ask any pro players their opinion on warriors etc. NONE of them would give you information that would logically lend them in the A tier. They're a solid B+ for pve, but pvp? A joke.
Skill capped honestly has no idea what they are talking about....I wouldn't rely on them as a source for anything other than patch notes lmfao. You want actual tier lists and evidence of good and bad..just go watch the arena champs stream their 3v3 games..ven, pika, any of them.
These days WoW is very DPS centric. You will notice that Holy Paladin / Disc Priest are the suggested healers for 90% of comps. That's usually how things go: the best healers can simply play whatever they want. I agree though that it would be useful to have this video from a healer PoV. Will try to do this more next time.
I think your editing might be off - at the bottom of B tier for WW monk you say "At the bottom of A tier" - unsure if this was put in the wrong spot or misspoke
@dask7428 good yes, when lock war S tier, but never meta. Now it could be actually meta, but I still doubt it. It can be easily counter picked with a ww or jungle
Its likely because Outlaw is more of a situational pick. It is usually picked if the team wants a rogue, but they are experiencing that the rogue is the one dying, then they usually go for the Outlaw. Essentially trading control / dmg for more survivability.
Ele still being overrated everywhere. Just because a couple pros can cycle 20 totems at the exact best time while 99% of Eles are just waddling around waiting for something to die, whether you or the enemy.
I keep hearing this meta is so fast. To me every good class seems unkillable without 2 or 3 perfect cross cc goes to get all their cds or they will just damp you out. SP/Lock/Feral/BM all are damp rot specs. I don’t see how this is a fast meta - SL S1 where you can die in a half kidney … sure - but not this where healers go oom and dampening wins games.
Hilarious seeing this after all the pro arena players have already written off most of these classes/specs....makes you wonder who knows more.....skill capped....or the arena champs....I know for a fact in his last stream Pika completely wrote off sub rogue and all its issues this season
Yeah, Enh is always a slow burn buildup for pvp too every xpac it starts off kinda bad and ends up great. Ive raged out vs some enhances around 1900-2k mmr on my WW and lost to them where they go 6-0, so it def depends on the lobbys and the player. The ones I run into right now at that mmr though are actually nasty. Grounding totem is just annoying af and earthen wall... and if they can stick to something its just rediculous. Grounding totem a 24 sec cd... and a 12 sec kick cd... seems like a good class to me.
Dogshit meta feral is broken since day 1 doing nothing about that. Also mmr cr is broken and they also dont give a single f about that but if it was m+ will be fixes under 1 day.
The graphical style of these tier lists is so incoherent and needlessly flashy. It just feels poorly organized, and none of the information that I want to see is ever on the screen when I want it to be, and when it is, it looks like a jumbled mess. Just show the specs, show the Tier letter, and that's it. You don't need a Cyberpunk 2077 overlay to present this basic information. If anything, you're making it too visually cluttered for something so simple as a tier list.
half the rogue mains have switched feral, sub is being deleted from pvp in a week, and people still call for rogue nerfs lol. people really just want m+ pvp
If you watched the AWC - Pika didn't even fully know how to play Feral and was still taking games from Liquid on their main comp. I know this because after the AWC he was learning so much shit, it's insane how OP Feral is.
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sounds deadass like your voice haha i swear
So:
Frost Mage + Shadow Priest + Holy Paladin = S
Shadow Priest + Frost Mage + Holy Paladin = A+
I think i'll go for the first choice
The tierlist is based on specs, not comps.
@@skillcappedwowpvpthe dum-dums in the 2v2 comments couldn't figure that out either
Video starts at 0:58
Ferals, frost mages and rogue are way too strong... they better nerf warriors again just to be sure 🤔
And frost dk don’t forget frost dk
@@Elriogranade frost dk? What is that? That's just a myth, I think you mean Warriors right? Yeah they deserve a nerf nerf warriors
SP is broken need to be nerfed in first place
They are quite harder than zugzug warrior haha
@@Killeny94That is 100% true and instead of making warriors hard like MOP for example we need to let them be braindead spec with 0 dmg… Another 20 % nerf should do the job
Cries in enhancement shaman
Waiting for the ranged video! Thanks for that one.
huh?
Drag those warriors in garbage tier what the hell lol
In US region:
top 100 3s, 1 is a warrior
top 100 2s, 2 are warriors (same player)
In EU region:
top 100 3s, 5 warriors
top 100 2s, 0 warrior
Out of 400 top players across the EU and US region, there are 8 warriors (7 different players).
How do you pull such a conclusion, that makes it logical to put them in A tier? Just legit curious lol
true, warriors are garb atm
@@timsjolin6657 You missed "hot" before garbage lol
Seriously, they're horrible and I do not understand how they can put them in A tier for pvp.
Look at the ladder, ask any pro players their opinion on warriors etc.
NONE of them would give you information that would logically lend them in the A tier.
They're a solid B+ for pve, but pvp?
A joke.
It’s weird that ele didn’t have ww as a viable partner considering there is a comp running that andthey are second in the awc lol
Skill capped honestly has no idea what they are talking about....I wouldn't rely on them as a source for anything other than patch notes lmfao. You want actual tier lists and evidence of good and bad..just go watch the arena champs stream their 3v3 games..ven, pika, any of them.
That team relies entirely on running very weird and offmeta comps that no one has solved, doesn’t mean they’re the best comps at all
I really dislike how little info you give on comps for healers
These days WoW is very DPS centric.
You will notice that Holy Paladin / Disc Priest are the suggested healers for 90% of comps. That's usually how things go: the best healers can simply play whatever they want.
I agree though that it would be useful to have this video from a healer PoV. Will try to do this more next time.
No comps for mw :D
Mom i made it in a Skill Capped video, pull out the fancy cups, we celebrating tonight!
I played BM / Retri / Healer comp and it felt easy and fun
It would be best if you made a complete tier board at the end of the video.
I think your editing might be off - at the bottom of B tier for WW monk you say "At the bottom of A tier" - unsure if this was put in the wrong spot or misspoke
What does it mean when a meta is slow or fast? And what is the best for it to be? Fast or slow ?
Healer meta is awesome literally only think that goes into a tier list is DPS and healers are just pala and disc
rdru "delete"?
Shadowplay doing well in arena. What a time to be alive.
Cope, it has been good for a few seasons at least
@dask7428 good yes, when lock war S tier, but never meta.
Now it could be actually meta, but I still doubt it.
It can be easily counter picked with a ww or jungle
"Frost dk doesn't need buffs, I am always top of the meters in my bgs" by some low rating player
Exactly, no offense to the low rated players but they really don’t know what they’re talking about majority of the time.
Question Guys: How about in 3vs3 as Feral + Sub + Heal? What do you mean about this Comb? Best regards
What about triple DPS?
is slayer better than thunder?
Still no ele content, nice, only been waiting a month -.-
Pali/priest, feral/rogue, X pretty much somes up the best comps.
It's all just RMP. You can swap the P for Priest/pally, mage can be swapped for any clothie, and stealthie can be swapped between rogue/feral.
We want some 2s leader with both being dps
so what do I do as a holy priest? would be cool if non fotm is also covered somewhere
There are no more Holy Priests, the Ferals ate them all.
RMP and Jungle are your best options.
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You dont get to have fun, unless you play rogue feral disc or hpal
3v3 is so bad. Diversity is really suffering in arena. Blitz is chaos, but at least you can play just about anything there.
Feral/Rogue/mage/Aff + disc .......combine those and Auto win
Script for this one seems really well written. WP
Ret in C Tier is Accurate!
Will things shift after the anniversary patch?
Defiantly, just how WoW works, which is why Flavor of the Month gaming sucks. Takes too much time
Jazz catching strays lol
ret war no work ?
This is a question to experts, why is Outlaw at B tier and we saw many last week on AWC?
Its likely because Outlaw is more of a situational pick. It is usually picked if the team wants a rogue, but they are experiencing that the rogue is the one dying, then they usually go for the Outlaw. Essentially trading control / dmg for more survivability.
Because they all failed to Feral.
where are hmonk ?
Ele still being overrated everywhere. Just because a couple pros can cycle 20 totems at the exact best time while 99% of Eles are just waddling around waiting for something to die, whether you or the enemy.
I keep hearing this meta is so fast. To me every good class seems unkillable without 2 or 3 perfect cross cc goes to get all their cds or they will just damp you out. SP/Lock/Feral/BM all are damp rot specs. I don’t see how this is a fast meta - SL S1 where you can die in a half kidney … sure - but not this where healers go oom and dampening wins games.
Hilarious seeing this after all the pro arena players have already written off most of these classes/specs....makes you wonder who knows more.....skill capped....or the arena champs....I know for a fact in his last stream Pika completely wrote off sub rogue and all its issues this season
We actually worked directly with Chanimal (the 3x EU AWC cup winner so far and multi AWC champion) to make this video.
Warriors and Frost DKs GO HOME!
Crying as rsham main
You are right, that enhancement shaman isnt that strong, but it shouldnt be underestimated and it still works with a good warrior.
Yeah, Enh is always a slow burn buildup for pvp too every xpac it starts off kinda bad and ends up great. Ive raged out vs some enhances around 1900-2k mmr on my WW and lost to them where they go 6-0, so it def depends on the lobbys and the player. The ones I run into right now at that mmr though are actually nasty. Grounding totem is just annoying af and earthen wall... and if they can stick to something its just rediculous. Grounding totem a 24 sec cd... and a 12 sec kick cd... seems like a good class to me.
Dogshit meta feral is broken since day 1 doing nothing about that. Also mmr cr is broken and they also dont give a single f about that but if it was m+ will be fixes under 1 day.
Feral sp hpala is the best comp in the game. Tf is this scuffed ass list?
The graphical style of these tier lists is so incoherent and needlessly flashy. It just feels poorly organized, and none of the information that I want to see is ever on the screen when I want it to be, and when it is, it looks like a jumbled mess. Just show the specs, show the Tier letter, and that's it. You don't need a Cyberpunk 2077 overlay to present this basic information. If anything, you're making it too visually cluttered for something so simple as a tier list.
Biq first
She got dat kitty cleave ;)
Nerf mistweaver more!!!!
It's criminal how bad MW feels to play right now
@@michaelskelley6073 MW main since 2018. I want to quit wow every single shuffle I play. Never been this bad before...
Fix MMR
half the rogue mains have switched feral, sub is being deleted from pvp in a week, and people still call for rogue nerfs lol. people really just want m+ pvp
If you watched the AWC - Pika didn't even fully know how to play Feral and was still taking games from Liquid on their main comp. I know this because after the AWC he was learning so much shit, it's insane how OP Feral is.
pff, mage sucks rn
??? 😂
Arms warrior is not even in c tier 💀
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