@@mitchdoescoffee Will def be purchasing that! Someone else recommended the IMS shower screen (I think it's called)? What about the shower head holder? Its plastic in the Pro? Is it possible to get a metal one? :) Thanks for your help!
@roryinnerd578 I would dive too deep into mods for this machine. Keep it simple and if you are chasing perfect espresso, a high quality grinder will make the biggest difference to your setup.
Hey Mitch, thanks for the walk through, this was excellent - I have a Breville Barista Express. Are there two separate screens to purchase based on your links in the description? I'm not sure what the different between Nanotech and competition is? And is there a link for the upper shower piece (heavy steel)?
The upper shower screen is only for the 58mm. (I forgot to mention that) And the nanotech coating gives you a slightly better extraction & much less cleaning as the coating is hydrophobic. 👌
When building a new house I selected GE CAFE appliances, and when I discover there was a matching expresso machine nearly identical in appearance and function to the Breville at half the price I bought one for $530 US. It appears to designed by Breville for GE. The CAFE machine is programmable for grind time, water temp and shot volume for both single and double shots via an app on the phone which also monitors and can control functions on other CAFE appliances such as the refrigerator, range and oven, and microwave. It sends notices for low water level and the need to descale every 70 liters of use via the app. All the other machines with similar program interfaces are twice the price making it a great value as an entry level machine.
Hi Mitch, great video. I ordered the Oracle™ and will follow your upgrade with the replacement parts immediately after unpacking. Which bottomless portafilters and filter baskets do you recommend for the Oracle™? Thank you very much for your reply. Best, Philipp
Hi! Thanks so much for tuning in. I'm a big fan of IMS baskets... but I recommend experimenting to find what you prefer. Any bottomless portafilter that fits will be fine, but if you want a nice quality fit, I would use the Pesado 👍
@@mitchdoescoffee Hi Mitch, thank you for your prompt response and recommendations. Is there anything I need to consider when selecting the portafilter or basket filter because the Oracle™ automatically tampers?
@@FOKKFOKK I don't think you need to worry about anything like that... any 58mm portafilter & basket made for this machine should fit exactly that same as a standard one. 👍
@@mitchdoescoffee Perfect, thank you. One more thing: Do I have to try out the size of the basket, depending on taste, bean type, quantity, double/single use, etc. or is there a standard size (for 18-22g -> Sage recommendation?) that you would recommend? IMS, for example, is available in 14, 16, 18 & 20g. My wife drinks latte and I drink Americano or long/normal coffee.
Hi Mitch, it's Philipp again. I've now installed the upgrade in my Oracle™ from the beginning. I'm a bit surprised that the screw is visible in the puck after the brewing process. In principle, that means that the coffee powder is pressed directly onto the shower. Is that okay or do I need to make other settings, e.g. use fewer grams of coffee?
I have a dual boiler however my Dad has a touch one, I just watched your video on the Oracle saying the grinder is shit. What do you think (with the upgrades) is a better machine? The dual boiler or the touch one? I was only going to change to the touch as it’s slightly smaller but the steam wand is not as good as the dual boiler as with the porta-filter. Can I ask your opinion on what Breville I should use? Thank you! Your video’s are bloody awesome 😊
100% The dual boiler!! I have one in the garage that will probably replace our Oracle. Plus the dual boiler can be upgraded for free with the Slayer mod. 😝 Thanks for tuning in legend.
@@mitchdoescoffee I’m sorry to be a pain but I purchased the shower screen kit and installed it. I was also trying to undo the group head part but could get it undone so just screwed it back together. However now there is sometimes some water that drips down the group head and also the back of the machine has steam coming out from the top! I don’t know if I’ve f’d this machine completely! Do you have any advice? Machine is cleaned regularly and has been serviced, boiler changed not long ago so I think it’s a me problem
I have an Oracle but despite the boiler temp stating 96c the hot water produced by the shot button comes out at around 80c. Is there a simple way to check if it’s simply a temperature sensor issue or something else? What’s the easy fix?
Hi Matt. I'd start with a deep boiler descale & flush (multiple times if necessary) and see if anything improves. If nothing changes, I would recommend sending the machine to a technician to test sensors etc.
Hi thank you for video i have bambino plus does this have upper and lower shower screens as i cant seem to locate an upper screen for bambino plus? Thank you
When you remove the shower head and so on, did you recognize bubbles on the heater unit? And if you install the upper steel showercase, will this not lead to contact corrosion with the aluminium heater head?
I didn't notice any issues when I pulled it apart. Long term, I dare say it could cause some issues if you don't maintain the machine. With only 1 screw holding all of this together, it is very easy to remove and clean occasionally.
@@mitchdoescoffee i was asking about aluminium heater head, is it direct contact with the water/coffee or just heating the shower head but with no contact with the actual water/coffee?
I've not tried the brass ones myself, but I would assume that the brass may add some difference to the flavour & without consistent back flushing you may see more scale build up than you would on the stainless steel.
Hey Mitch. Some web said the screw in the IMS shower head protude so that when they use full 18gr in 18gr basket, there is some mark on the espresso. Can u confirm this? i am using puckscreen and i dont want my PS to be dented lol
It depends on a few factors. I haven't had any issue with this happening. A courser grind will take up more space in the basket, so this could be a reason a puck screen will touch the shower.
There are companies that package the screen, upper stainless steel screen and gasket as a package at a good price. Mitch, do you mind if i post a limk for one with free international shipping? (Ive no affiliation with them)
Hi Mitch, thanks for the video - can i clarify the parts listed ( Nanotech - Part# CI200NT, Competition - Part# CI200IM) is one a shower screen and the other a upper/dispersion screen ? when I google them both seems to be shower screens. I have a 58mm portafilter (oracle) and wanted to get both parts.
Hello. No, they are both shower screens. Depending on where you are from, there are many different locations to purchase the stainless steel dispersion screen.
Hey Mitch, We have the breville barista express (Bought two years ago as a first step into making our own home coffees). I replaced the group head gasket and noticed that the area inside the where the shower head covers has become almost rusted. With the black coating coming off in one section. I reinstalled everything and the shot now spurts everywhere. Clearly there is not a good seal and the water is being pushed out through the path of least resistance, my question is, can i get a replacement part for this and if so where? or am I stuffed and need to look at a new machine. Cheers
Hey! You certainly can replace the complete shower head. It isn't the easiest job to do, but any good machine technician should be able to do this for you.
Any chane of sending us a link of where I can order the parts myself. Im looking a trying to fix myself first. Wife has given me permission. I think she wants me to break so she c haha an buy a new one hahah @@mitchdoescoffee
@cambulator3769 This is a used one I have found on ebay if that helps. www.ebay.com.au/itm/284960816933?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=rmrqtupyt2k&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=lcn8eg5ltms&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hi, thanks for reaching out. I'm unfamiliar with this machine. However from a quick google search... it looks like it isn't the same at either of the 54 or 58mm machines, so I would assume not.
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Have the Breville Oracle, buying all the upgrades you recommended, thanks!!!
Awesome! Thanks for tuning in. 🙏
Nice vid! Where did u get the wood naked portafilter from?
Just amazon. It's cheap, bit it works fine.
Just bought a Sage Dual Temp Pro. Any good upgrades you can recomend?? :) Thanks!
Hey! I'd recommend the IMS 54mm basket upgrade. It will absolutely give you a more consistent espresso. 🙏
@@mitchdoescoffee Will def be purchasing that! Someone else recommended the IMS shower screen (I think it's called)? What about the shower head holder? Its plastic in the Pro? Is it possible to get a metal one? :) Thanks for your help!
@roryinnerd578 I would dive too deep into mods for this machine. Keep it simple and if you are chasing perfect espresso, a high quality grinder will make the biggest difference to your setup.
Hello! I have The Oracle - the shower screen you listed is 51.5mm but I guess that is correct? The portafilter is 58mm - just wondering.
Thank you
I have a few different options listed. Yes, The oraclee is 58mm
Hey Mitch, thanks for the walk through, this was excellent - I have a Breville Barista Express. Are there two separate screens to purchase based on your links in the description? I'm not sure what the different between Nanotech and competition is? And is there a link for the upper shower piece (heavy steel)?
The upper shower screen is only for the 58mm. (I forgot to mention that)
And the nanotech coating gives you a slightly better extraction & much less cleaning as the coating is hydrophobic. 👌
When building a new house I selected GE CAFE appliances, and when I discover there was a matching expresso machine nearly identical in appearance and function to the Breville at half the price I bought one for $530 US. It appears to designed by Breville for GE.
The CAFE machine is programmable for grind time, water temp and shot volume for both single and double shots via an app on the phone which also monitors and can control functions on other CAFE appliances such as the refrigerator, range and oven, and microwave. It sends notices for low water level and the need to descale every 70 liters of use via the app. All the other machines with similar program interfaces are twice the price making it a great value as an entry level machine.
As much as this sounds like a late night television sales pitch, I want to know more. Hahaha. I'll check them out.
Hi Mitch, great video.
I ordered the Oracle™ and will follow your upgrade with the replacement parts immediately after unpacking.
Which bottomless portafilters and filter baskets do you recommend for the Oracle™?
Thank you very much for your reply.
Best, Philipp
Hi! Thanks so much for tuning in.
I'm a big fan of IMS baskets... but I recommend experimenting to find what you prefer.
Any bottomless portafilter that fits will be fine, but if you want a nice quality fit, I would use the Pesado 👍
@@mitchdoescoffee
Hi Mitch, thank you for your prompt response and recommendations. Is there anything I need to consider when selecting the portafilter or basket filter because the Oracle™ automatically tampers?
@@FOKKFOKK I don't think you need to worry about anything like that... any 58mm portafilter & basket made for this machine should fit exactly that same as a standard one. 👍
@@mitchdoescoffee
Perfect, thank you. One more thing:
Do I have to try out the size of the basket, depending on taste, bean type, quantity, double/single use, etc. or is there a standard size (for 18-22g -> Sage recommendation?) that you would recommend?
IMS, for example, is available in 14, 16, 18 & 20g.
My wife drinks latte and I drink Americano or long/normal coffee.
@FOKKFOKK 18g or 20g is a safe bet... either way it will be a proper cafe size dose.
Thanks Mitch, just ordered mine yesterday as the plastic one broke... Is there any other upgrade we can do?
A bottomless portafilter with a high-quality basket is always going to be good... I enjoy the sweetness of IMS baskets. 👍
Hi Mitch, it's Philipp again. I've now installed the upgrade in my Oracle™ from the beginning. I'm a bit surprised that the screw is visible in the puck after the brewing process. In principle, that means that the coffee powder is pressed directly onto the shower. Is that okay or do I need to make other settings, e.g. use fewer grams of coffee?
Hi mate! Yes, I would adjust the dose down slightly (or grind finer) to clear the shower screw.
@@mitchdoescoffee Thank you, will try that, happy sunday... ✌🏻
I have a dual boiler however my Dad has a touch one, I just watched your video on the Oracle saying the grinder is shit. What do you think (with the upgrades) is a better machine? The dual boiler or the touch one? I was only going to change to the touch as it’s slightly smaller but the steam wand is not as good as the dual boiler as with the porta-filter. Can I ask your opinion on what Breville I should use? Thank you! Your video’s are bloody awesome 😊
100% The dual boiler!! I have one in the garage that will probably replace our Oracle.
Plus the dual boiler can be upgraded for free with the Slayer mod. 😝
Thanks for tuning in legend.
@@mitchdoescoffee I’m sorry to be a pain but I purchased the shower screen kit and installed it. I was also trying to undo the group head part but could get it undone so just screwed it back together. However now there is sometimes some water that drips down the group head and also the back of the machine has steam coming out from the top! I don’t know if I’ve f’d this machine completely! Do you have any advice? Machine is cleaned regularly and has been serviced, boiler changed not long ago so I think it’s a me problem
@@petamaybaby it sounds like the group head seal is either installed incorrectly (shower screen sitting off)
Or the seal is worn out.
Do these filters work for the Breville Touch as well? Thank you.
Only the lower 54mm screen. 🙏
Do they make these for the 54mm? I can’t seem to find the stainless steel “inner” or “upper” anywhere.
Hello! The 54mm doesn't use the upper screen.
There is a link in video description for the 54mm shower. 👍
I have an Oracle but despite the boiler temp stating 96c the hot water produced by the shot button comes out at around 80c.
Is there a simple way to check if it’s simply a temperature sensor issue or something else? What’s the easy fix?
Hi Matt. I'd start with a deep boiler descale & flush (multiple times if necessary) and see if anything improves.
If nothing changes, I would recommend sending the machine to a technician to test sensors etc.
Hi Mitch, thanks for the informative video! What size o-ring/gasket should I buy for the Bambino Plus? Many thanks
Hello! Thanks for reaching out.
The Bambino is a 54mm 👍
Hi thank you for video i have bambino plus does this have upper and lower shower screens as i cant seem to locate an upper screen for bambino plus? Thank you
You're so welcome.
All of the 54mm machines (including Bambino) do not have an upper screen. Just the lower. 👍
When you remove the shower head and so on, did you recognize bubbles on the heater unit?
And if you install the upper steel showercase, will this not lead to contact corrosion with the aluminium heater head?
I didn't notice any issues when I pulled it apart.
Long term, I dare say it could cause some issues if you don't maintain the machine. With only 1 screw holding all of this together, it is very easy to remove and clean occasionally.
Is this aluminium part gets in contact with coffee and water?
@michalprzybylski2460 It is stainless steel & yes, this is the last contact with water before it touches your coffee.
@@mitchdoescoffee i was asking about aluminium heater head, is it direct contact with the water/coffee or just heating the shower head but with no contact with the actual water/coffee?
hey, does the Breville infuser have the same upgrades? I can only find silicone upper group heads.
No, that machine has a different grouphead.
Great video thanks.
I’ve seen online brass up the head screams, are these the same, better or worse than stainless steel?
I've not tried the brass ones myself, but I would assume that the brass may add some difference to the flavour & without consistent back flushing you may see more scale build up than you would on the stainless steel.
Thanks, I hadn’t thought of that & it makes perfect sense.
Hey Mitch. Some web said the screw in the IMS shower head protude so that when they use full 18gr in 18gr basket, there is some mark on the espresso. Can u confirm this? i am using puckscreen and i dont want my PS to be dented lol
It depends on a few factors. I haven't had any issue with this happening. A courser grind will take up more space in the basket, so this could be a reason a puck screen will touch the shower.
There are companies that package the screen, upper stainless steel screen and gasket as a package at a good price. Mitch, do you mind if i post a limk for one with free international shipping? (Ive no affiliation with them)
Go for it. 👍 Have you used this brand yourself?
@mitchdoescoffee I've just placed an order which worked smoothly. Let's hope they deliver on schedule
Hi @everyones.shadow - are you able to share the link if you were happy with the products? 🙏
@@aeleneYes, they delivered quickly and the kit is easy to install
What is the link please?
Hi Mitch, not sure but I don’t see the links of where to buy?
I've left part numbers below as different countries have their own retailers. Just pop those number into google to find a local seller. 👍
You listed the breville dual boiler with the 54mm group?
Ah yes. This was copied straight off the IMS site 🙃
Hi Mitch, thanks for the video - can i clarify the parts listed ( Nanotech - Part# CI200NT, Competition - Part# CI200IM) is one a shower screen and the other a upper/dispersion screen ? when I google them both seems to be shower screens. I have a 58mm portafilter (oracle) and wanted to get both parts.
Hello. No, they are both shower screens. Depending on where you are from, there are many different locations to purchase the stainless steel dispersion screen.
Thanks fella
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@@mitchdoescoffee Comical as I just got replacement gasket and it was the cracked plastic
@@ManonFire777 ahhh. The plastic plate strikes!
i can not find a single upper shower head in 54mm for uk.. its so annoying i want to make these upgrades T_T
The 54mm machines do not use an upper screen. 👍
@@mitchdoescoffee thank you so much.. I was losing my mind
Does Barista Pro in 54mm have inner screen?
No it doesn't. Just the outer 👍
Hey Mitch, We have the breville barista express (Bought two years ago as a first step into making our own home coffees). I replaced the group head gasket and noticed that the area inside the where the shower head covers has become almost rusted. With the black coating coming off in one section. I reinstalled everything and the shot now spurts everywhere. Clearly there is not a good seal and the water is being pushed out through the path of least resistance, my question is, can i get a replacement part for this and if so where? or am I stuffed and need to look at a new machine. Cheers
Hey! You certainly can replace the complete shower head. It isn't the easiest job to do, but any good machine technician should be able to do this for you.
Any chane of sending us a link of where I can order the parts myself. Im looking a trying to fix myself first. Wife has given me permission. I think she wants me to break so she c haha an buy a new one hahah @@mitchdoescoffee
@cambulator3769 This is a used one I have found on ebay if that helps. www.ebay.com.au/itm/284960816933?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-154756-20017-0&ssspo=rmrqtupyt2k&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=lcn8eg5ltms&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hi mate can you recommend which ones fit the Beville touch
This one mate. The 54mm machines only use a lower shower screen.
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I don't see the cafeRoma model in the lost is tis upgradable ?
Hi, thanks for reaching out. I'm unfamiliar with this machine. However from a quick google search... it looks like it isn't the same at either of the 54 or 58mm machines, so I would assume not.
Was I the only one thinking their headphones were broken? A bit of extreme stereo panning
Yes we had some technical issues with the mic. Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of refilming 4 hours of work for some audio. 😂
@@mitchdoescoffee Changing the audio to 'mono' may be a quick fix.
J'ai des clés "allen" et je n'ai jamais construit de meubles ikea, je n'y ai même jamais mis les pieds, ne faisant pas confiance à cette marque depuis le début. Savez vous que leur politique sociale et salariale est perfectible ❓ Savez vous qu'elle contribue à la destruction des forêts en Roumanie, par corruption des dirigeants roumains❓
Sinon, merci pour l'aide à la mise à jour des machines Sage/Breville 👍 🙏
Ummm... you're welcome. 🤣
I’ve heard the Breville screens were actually quite good…….
In comparison to anything made by a proper coffee machine company, they are not so good.
@@mitchdoescoffee Breville baskets are more precise than IMS
@@MrTacoma I'm sorry, but who told you these lies? 😅
@@mitchdoescoffee Lance Hedrick did a comparison
@@mitchdoescoffee it’s not really about the price of equipment.. it’s more the barista…..
Gosh sounds are horrible
I agree. My microphone let me down in this video.