I recently owned a 2009 Crown Majesta V8 with the 1UR-FSE and 8 speed auto. It is the same drivetrain as what is in the Lexus LS460 and GS460. It was in mint condition and a Grade 4.5. The build quality was impeccable and the V8 and transmission turbine smooth with a nice linear response. It has a dual personality where on one hand it is a luxury cruiser and on the hand will haul some ass if you need it to doing 0 to 100 in the mid to high 5's. At 100kmh it sits well below 2000rpm thanks to the 8spd auto. As mentioned in the video it has creature comforts and features galore. For the price there is really not much that can touch it and is a far less riskier option than the equivalent Euro marques of the same vintage. The same goes for the Crown Athlete and Crown Hybrids.
I've owned a Toyota Crown Majesta V8 for six years now. Super smooth, luxurious and powerful. But be aware of the Crown models with air suspension. When any of those components fail, you're up for big bucks and a lot of inconvenience. Conversion to coil-overs should be considered.
In Japan, crowns have long been a sign of success in the middle-income bracket. The sales slogan, "Someday, a Crown," was so well-known that it was even used to describe the "Someday, a Crown. It has therefore been used as a company car for company directors and as a police car by the police. Although originally a luxury car, Toyota rarely sold it overseas. When the first generation Crown was brought to the U.S., it received poor reviews, and it was not sold in overseas markets, where people are much larger than the Japanese. Many comparisons with the Camry are also correct because Toyota is selling it in place of the Crown. On the other hand, as a vehicle exclusively for the Japanese market, it has evolved in its own unique way. As pointed out in the video, not only has it adopted many advanced technologies, but it has also come to share its basic design with Lexus as time has progressed. In many cases, the sales schedule was such that new technologies and designs introduced in the Crown were introduced in the Lexus, so the equipment is quite advanced even if it is 10-2 years old. Recently, the Crown has finally been sold in the U.S. market, but the size of the car has remained almost the same because it has not been sold in foreign markets for a long time. This is the result of consideration for parking space in Japan, but it is lighter and more compact than the Lexus model of the same size, which is a happy miscalculation. To differentiate it from the Lexus models that were later reimported to Japan, some of the engine and other specifications are one rank lower than those of Lexus models in the same class, but the light weight of the car is the reason it still delivers sufficient performance. Because of this background, Crown users are generally older and wealthy to some extent, so Crown cars are often in good condition and have short mileage. On the other hand, the design and user interface are conservative. In a sense, it is one of the most JDM-inspired vehicles among Toyota cars. In the past, there was a model equipped with a 1JZ engine, and since then, the Crown has mainly consisted of two models: the "Royal Saloon," which pursued only comfort, and the "Athlete," which sought unexpectedness in appearance and driving performance. The Athlete model was particularly popular among Japanese sports car enthusiasts, and Toyota, hoping to lower the age of its users, adopted a sporty design with considerable enthusiasm. Although Crown had continued to use the FR system, the latest model was converted to the FF system in order to introduce a wide range of derivative models such as SUV types. It is completely different from the conventional Crown, but rest assured that it is still a luxury car. The Crown is more famous than the Land Cruiser in Japan. Therefore, it is no exaggeration to say that the Crown is the most reliable model among Toyota cars because of the importance placed on its design, technology, and reliability. However, in Japan, some users have been modifying their vehicles in a rather reckless manner, calling it "VIP customization," and it has become a popular trend. Most of the users are wealthy elderly people, and it is a danger signal when the maintenance records are missing. It is unlikely that Crown users in Japan have no maintenance records because Crowns are always serviced at Toyota dealers and are often used with great care. Last but not least, Crowns used in Japanese police cars are rarely seen in the used car market because the engines are specially tuned. If you have a chance to get one, you are so lucky that you may think you have won the lottery. The wheels are steel with plastic covers, which is a classic specification, but the inside is tuned directly by Toyota, making it a super-rare spec.
In 1975 i bought a Crown 2.6 1967 model, in Perth for $ 300. i don't recall ever changing the oil....it was unstoppable, drove across the Nullarbor when it was unsealed for 400+ km. super comfy car even in those days.
Nonono my brotha. The Mark X leads by far, if u put all generations of the crowns together, the mark x still leads unfortunately. Every young guy out here wants a mark x as there first car. Even my brother has 1. Its crazy
You guys are absolute legends. I only recently purchased one from Japan and it's being shipped as we speak. Very reassuring to know it's just as good as I expected.
I have the v8 majesta f package. Its an absolute dream to drive. Special for the majesta: 1. 20 speaker sound system with speakers in the rear headrest 2. Night vision if you have the full lcd gauge 3. Lane assist with adaptive cruise control 4. Adjustable air suspension ( it can last if you dont drop it to the ground like a lot of people) 5. As with all crowns, swinging vents haha
Hello, subscriber from the UK. When stationed overseas in the armed forces in the late 1960s, my dad purchased a Toyota Crown (MS55 model.) He then bought it back to the UK and kept it 10 years. It had so many features as standard and was very reliable. WOW what an amazing car it was.
Great to see a crown review. We have a great range of these in NZ. Please be aware this is an eCVT so it’s a planetary gear system, super reliable, much better than a conventional band/chain CVT.
I purchased my Toyota crown majesta G type F package in January 2022. I've put 65000km on it since then. Never missed a beat. On long highway drives I'm constantly averaging 13km/L about 7.7l/100km. It's very comfortable to drive with very smooth original factor air suspension. I love this car.
Great review thanks guys. I have a 2005 LS430 and have had a similar experience. Nothing goes wrong, it’s SO comfortable, cheap to run and just wonderful. If you can’t find a Crown, try a 6 speed auto LS430 would fit the bill nicely.
I owned one for around 2 years. Before that I bought the factory service manual and translate the catalogue for around 2 years. Some correction: the hybrid comes with 10 speakers standard. This one comes with 18 speaker "Toyota premium speaker system". However the extra 8 didn't contribute any to audio but rather active noise cancelling (notice the speakers on the shoulders of the front seats). I only occationally notice it's doing it's thing so good to have but not the deal breaker. The air suspensions are only available for the long wheel base Majestas. Hybrids comes with computer controlled active suspension aka AVS (and through out 12 gen to 14 gen, the rear structs are always the achilles heels). The cheaper way is to buy the KYB oe replacement part KEG9331 (some extra parts are required but not provided) and unfortunately KYB AU didn't have those, you will have to buy them from Japan somehow. Put on any structs that didn't come with AVS will trigger 2 error codes (L/R rear struct actuator malfuction). Some quirks: E-CVT has nothing to do with bell/chain drive CVT, it's 2 motors with planetary gear sets. Remove some trim panels and you will notice it's built on Lexus standards. The clips contacting surfaces comes with cloth, which also on the trim panel contacting points. The rattle you hear is likely cause by the rubbish in the cup holder. Notice the card inside the centre console? They came out of the factory with 2 key fobs and 1 card key. The trunk operates differently with most other cars. It can only be opened either by press the trunk open key on the driver side door card or have a key in your pocket and press the trunk open key on the right hand side on top of the rear licence plate. It won't open when the car is unlock but you don't have the key from the outside. Open the trunk will not change the lock state to unlock. This should be the first Toyota with full digital dash (Doug DeMuro's rant!) and it's not for customisation but the night view system. My personal experience of the night view system is it's too laggy (~0.5-1 second) and the field of vision is too narrow. It's good to have when driving in poor lit residential area or close to forest (so you can see if any roo is trying to give you a nasty suprise) but that's it. The one in the video has the interior led strips on top (kind of rare). Mine came with the rear executive package so it's kind of like a 3-zone but it's not. There is an extra air box and evaporator top of the hybrid battery and provide cold air for rear passangers only. The vents are next to the rear grab handles (you will notice the grab handles are in a kind of akward position). If it didn't come with the air box nor the roof led strips, the vent holes will be replaced by a pair of extra map/reading lights. Compare to an entry level new Camry which has around half of the horse power, the Camry comes with 235 width tyres, the Hybrid? 225. So DON'T do stupid things, especially in the wet. I'm thinking using 235/45 R18 tyres when the current ones wear out. Also the LKA (lane keeping assit) is the early generations so didn't work as good as the currents ones but good to have. If the car comes with LKA then there will be a plastic trim piece between the rear exhaust holes. There is a rear-facing radar behind it. If the radar detects a car coming too fast behing you the car will move the rear seat back to the upmost position and part of the front seat headrest will extend forward to reduce whiplash damage, also the hazard will flash automatically. Unfortunately it's from an era when smoking is considered cool so you will likely need an ozone generator to kill the smell.
I imported and got my GWS204(same hybrid model shown in the video) last month after looking at previous videos from you guys. Honestly best decision ever. Mine one has only 37000 kms over 15 years. Shout out to you guys!!!!!
I will never forget my 1974 Crown. Duck egg blue. Chrome everywhere. Bench rear seat. It's terrible for a P plater car, but alot of great memories and waves on a Sunday morning from people mistaking me for a car enthusiast.
seeing this video you should probably make a video about all the different models especially the Majesta it's such a work of art! that car is literally my dream car and I want to own one as soon as I can, not even kidding
Man amount of these i have started seeing these on marketplace is crazy. Would love to see smaller Toyota Fielder review in the future. Those thing are everywhere in perth these days. Love your work ❤
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Just recently purchased a 2008 GRS 204 Crown Athlete after lots of research and consideration. Mate, absolutely amazing car. I agree with everything you've said. Great video mate too. They are an incredibly good package, good looking, reliable, fast and fun. Waaay better than a Commodore or Falcon and heaps cheaper than overpriced Euro stuff. Just look for something unmolested and well looked after and you can't go wrong. Appreciate your time mate. 🙏👍
There is no doubt about it, Toyota do make very good cars, maybe the best. I have a 2005 Camry with the 1mz-fe engine. This has done 355000 km to date. The bodywork is tight and the engine is both very quiet and uses a barely noticeable amount of oil between changes (every 5000k + filter). The auto changes are so smooth as to be barely perceptible. Regarding repairs, a routine timing belt replacement and a new water pump have been the recent costs with an alternator a couple of years ago. The only mod has been 16 inch OEM alloys, they look nice! I'm tempted by the thought of an imported Crown but sadly inhibited financially. Never mind, at least I feel in the ballpark with my trusty Camry. Thanks for a well put together video, I'm an avid subscribed follower of redriven :)
I asked, you delivered! I actually own a 1981 Crown, which is getting a Quad cam V8 heart transplant. Even though it's ancient, it's still a great car to drive. 😊
The Crown is definitely a car I'd consider getting for myself even with the import question marks. I'm definitely jealous of you guys getting to drive one for the review 😂. I had to laugh at Hullsy's description of the German trio's engines as it was priceless. Hard to believe you guys are 8k subscribers away from breaking the 200k subscribers so well done gents. I'm definitely looking forward to Sunday's video and wonder if you guys will be doing an end of year wrap up next week. Keep up the good work guys 👍.
This or the Lexus GS450h? Similar car / powertrain but potentially more support from Aussie Lexus dealerships. Though, perhaps low volume so might be the same problem sourcing parts
I just bought a fresh import 2012 gws204 hybrid here in Dublin, picking it up next week. I was initially looking at a 2014 GS450h but when i spotted the Crown at the same dealer with similar spec and same engine, lower price... I had to have it!
My brother imported one of these months ago (i think he got a 2010 one but not sure of the exact model) and its probably the one car so far that he hasnt whinged about yet early on. Took around 5 months altogether due to delays in Japan with getting the car sorted for import plus delays in getting a berth in a container ship but once it got here, it probably only took two weeks to get everything cleared by RMS and all compliance-related work done and sorted. It's been his dream car for a long period as we grew up with a Crown as the family car (he learned driving in one without any power steering and full manual) and since he couldnt import the family car (would've cost a bomb in getting it repaired and compliance work alone plus, well, dad scrapped it before he retired), a newer Crown was the next best thing.
Ironically I was driving in Armadale, Victoria yesterday with my 25 year old daughter. She’s pretty much a car buff as myself. Love that! In traffic she points out one of these & says “What’s a Toyota Crown dad?” I rambled on “They were everywhere when I was growing up, but I e never seen such a late model! It’ll probably be a JDM import.” And here I am today!😵💫🤣
The latest model has to be one of the most sexiest cars I have seen in the flesh whilst in Japan. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if the price was right. Unfortunately dealers here are asking close to 85k for one where they are about 60k AUD brand new given the exchange rate.
2GR-FE is a classic ... I wish this had been the base for the Aurion. Rear wheel V6 or V8 with that peak Toyota build quality would have been a beautiful combination. Also, whoever owns that car ... wow - beautiful condition - paint looks brand new and the car is obviously loved. Would buy one in a heartbeat if I didn't love the car I have.
Thank you for your compliment! We bought this one after importing a few in and was so impressed with them. Will be replacing it with a 2021 model when the time comes!
I got myself a Toyota Crown. I imported it myself and it’s not a difficult process. Mine is a non-hybrid 2005 GRS-184 crown Athlete. Super happy with the car love the acceleration, features, class in appearance and I love how special it makes me feel on the road. Also not forgetting the mandatory wave from other Crownies. Best I’ve owned so far.
I got it myself mate. I have a friend in Japan who exports cars all over the world. My friend had a contact in Melbourne who took care of everything in Australia including registration.
Great channel this. Wish we had a Re-driven in 🇬🇧 UK. Seen a few nice examples of imported Crowns here. They look amazing cars. The Japanese sure have made a fantastic vehicle here.
Been an owner of a S170 Crown Majesta V8 for a while, other than some minor stuff and a broken alternator this thing rocks, such a step up from my previous VW Passat. Super smooth and comfy, and when you press the pedal down it gives you the biggest smile there is. Would recommend!
Hey Guys! Thanks so much been waiting a while for this. I was wondering if you guys can also review the Crowns’ closest rival; Infiniti Q50/70 sedans. I realise there aren’t many around which is why they’re kinda affordable as a next car. Thanks!
I won the same car. 2010-2012 model. Hybrid. 18inch wheels. 0-100 in 6-7 sec. Silent and I would not think of anything else , unless someone day if I wanted a Toyota Century. Only prob is the Japanese infotainment. Absolutely absolutely love this. Can't explain enough. Wow.
This is Japan’s flag ship and a real piece of art, very comfortable and smooth ride. As a child, I was fortunate to be driving in an older model that was owned by my friend’s parents. Would definitely buy any model in a heartbeat
I’m late seeing this but what the Euro’s offer is that they are imported here officially with all the advantages that has for parts, repairs and insurance. It’s such a pity that Toyota has never imported these here because I find a Camry about as exciting as single ply toilet paper but these are very appealing. They would sell all they imported if they offered them.
Not surprised about the level of comfort and refinement. This generation of the Crown is built off the same "N" platform architecture alongside the Lexus LS (XF40) and GS (S190). I'm in the USA so we still have to wait 10-15 years to import these gems.
Forgot to mention the platform is identical (mechanically) to the same year Lexus GS. Pricing is a lot cheaper for what you’re posting, with 100,000k models in good nick in the mid teens for the NA V6’s.
Your comments Adam about the ashtray and ciggie lighter sounds like an ex smoker, or you lived with someone who suffered the effects of tobacco. (I sit here gasping with emphysema). I am a Lexus follower but I didn't know about the availability of the Crown. Do they do a wagon? The window down trick is also found in the Skoda Octavia along with auto up windows if it rains. If the Crown has auto wipers then it will also close the windows in rain. I don't know what Jim is on about when he thinks the VAG engines are a precious butterfly. My Skoda has 102,000 ks on it and it is only on its second rebuilt engine. At 78 years old I would fit one of these Crowns perfectly, but only if it was a wagon. Thanks guys for another great video.
102,000km on its second engine is... really bad. I just sold my G6E, and it'd done 354,000km on its original engine and transmission, zero mechanical problems.
I'm from Bangladesh and sadly there's not a large automotive youtube scene surrounding used cars. Fortunately I just discovered your channel and AU's unique situation (no more local brands r.i.p Holden) is just perfect for reviewing used cars. But I do hope What goes wrong mechanically should be a separate and larger section of the video. That kind of info is invaluable. Subbed! Keep up the good work.
I have been researching about this car for a few weeks now and found so many 2GR oil leak reports and they are very costly to fix. The Car Care Nut covered that engine in a video.
weird, its suppose to be a very rare problem on the newer versions of the 2GR. Its an old engine that has been refined for many years. Were you looking at sub 2011 models?
@@DAh-xo8zm coincidentally yes, I had interest specifically on the Crown GRS204. I really cannot find any info regarding engine updates on the face lifted version 2011-2012.
on the older versions I believe there was a braided rubber pipe that use to wear and break catastrophically, which was replaced by an aluminum pipe in newer versions. It can be upgraded on older versions though. Other than that, the only oil issues are related to poor maintenance and not changing oil every 8000km. @@YuichiTamaki
Sold my 2009 2GR FSE Crown last year. ( UK 🇬🇧) owned 2 years. Absolutely amazing cars, soft close doors were to die for. Kit it had on for a 2009 was 2nd to none. I've worked in the garage trade since 1986, I'd not have anything else than Toyota for my day to day cars. The Crown 👑 was a flying machine also. Shocked many German cars whos drivers were clueless about the Crown, saying that most German car owners are blinkered and clueless anyway 😂. Good video 📹 on a fantastic car I'd recommend anyone to try one. Keep your German crap. 😊
These are common ASF in NZ and soooo much cheaper!😏 The CVT is much better than others, but the 6 speed auto Toyota used in the older models (like mine, 3.0 V6), is a much better transmission imo. Great cars, super reliable and extremely comfortable rides!
I own the same car model but with the modellista kit instead of the wald kit. I can not fault the car and wont be looking for an upgrade anytime soon unless i can afford a newer model crown
I've never seen a Crown of any vintage in anything other than mint condition. It's like they just don't deteriorate. Why buy a Lexus when this offers more for less?
Hello from New Zealand. I saw a Crown Station Wagon in the supermarket car park. As I was looking at it the owner turned up. We had a good talk about it , 2.4 litre 4 cylinder rear wheel drive, 1997. That is the only one I have seen. He was thinking about putting a Lexus 4.0 V8 in it...if it would fit. Love your channel.
Probably the most underrated medium sized luxury car in Australia. Why did Toyota Australia choose not import these? Now that the Lexus GS is no longer being made this is now the only option, except for maybe an older Lexus LS.
I literally just took delivery of my 2010 Majesta G/F pack today. Holy hell, it is a lot of car, absolute auto perfection. Cruised up the highway from Syd to Newy at 110 doing 1400rpm, in total luxury. Buy one. Buy one now, before they get in high demand!
Noooo! I don’t want everyone else looking for them! Delete the video!
I was thinking the same lol
They review all the gold, basically if a cat's in a bag, these guys let it out.
I was thinking that as well😅
You can import one from Japan
Nice try
I wish everything in life were as reassuring as Jim talking about a Toyota.
The Car Care Nut, Scotty and Jim remind me that I made the right choice.
I recently owned a 2009 Crown Majesta V8 with the 1UR-FSE and 8 speed auto. It is the same drivetrain as what is in the Lexus LS460 and GS460. It was in mint condition and a Grade 4.5. The build quality was impeccable and the V8 and transmission turbine smooth with a nice linear response. It has a dual personality where on one hand it is a luxury cruiser and on the hand will haul some ass if you need it to doing 0 to 100 in the mid to high 5's. At 100kmh it sits well below 2000rpm thanks to the 8spd auto. As mentioned in the video it has creature comforts and features galore. For the price there is really not much that can touch it and is a far less riskier option than the equivalent Euro marques of the same vintage. The same goes for the Crown Athlete and Crown Hybrids.
Whats the fuel consumption like?
Why did you sell it? And what did you replace it with?
I've owned a Toyota Crown Majesta V8 for six years now. Super smooth, luxurious and powerful. But be aware of the Crown models with air suspension. When any of those components fail, you're up for big bucks and a lot of inconvenience. Conversion to coil-overs should be considered.
4.6L Model?
@@ProductofNZ 4.3 litre
@@ALFAGOMMA did the 4.3 get the air suspension?
What fails in the suspension and how to prevent it?
Does the ride comfort take a hit when switching from Air Suspension to Coil?
In Japan, crowns have long been a sign of success in the middle-income bracket.
The sales slogan, "Someday, a Crown," was so well-known that it was even used to describe the "Someday, a Crown.
It has therefore been used as a company car for company directors and as a police car by the police.
Although originally a luxury car, Toyota rarely sold it overseas.
When the first generation Crown was brought to the U.S., it received poor reviews, and it was not sold in overseas markets, where people are much larger than the Japanese.
Many comparisons with the Camry are also correct because Toyota is selling it in place of the Crown.
On the other hand, as a vehicle exclusively for the Japanese market, it has evolved in its own unique way.
As pointed out in the video, not only has it adopted many advanced technologies, but it has also come to share its basic design with Lexus as time has progressed.
In many cases, the sales schedule was such that new technologies and designs introduced in the Crown were introduced in the Lexus, so the equipment is quite advanced even if it is 10-2 years old.
Recently, the Crown has finally been sold in the U.S. market, but the size of the car has remained almost the same because it has not been sold in foreign markets for a long time.
This is the result of consideration for parking space in Japan, but it is lighter and more compact than the Lexus model of the same size, which is a happy miscalculation.
To differentiate it from the Lexus models that were later reimported to Japan, some of the engine and other specifications are one rank lower than those of Lexus models in the same class, but the light weight of the car is the reason it still delivers sufficient performance.
Because of this background, Crown users are generally older and wealthy to some extent, so Crown cars are often in good condition and have short mileage.
On the other hand, the design and user interface are conservative.
In a sense, it is one of the most JDM-inspired vehicles among Toyota cars.
In the past, there was a model equipped with a 1JZ engine, and since then, the Crown has mainly consisted of two models: the "Royal Saloon," which pursued only comfort, and the "Athlete," which sought unexpectedness in appearance and driving performance.
The Athlete model was particularly popular among Japanese sports car enthusiasts, and Toyota, hoping to lower the age of its users, adopted a sporty design with considerable enthusiasm.
Although Crown had continued to use the FR system, the latest model was converted to the FF system in order to introduce a wide range of derivative models such as SUV types.
It is completely different from the conventional Crown, but rest assured that it is still a luxury car.
The Crown is more famous than the Land Cruiser in Japan.
Therefore, it is no exaggeration to say that the Crown is the most reliable model among Toyota cars because of the importance placed on its design, technology, and reliability.
However, in Japan, some users have been modifying their vehicles in a rather reckless manner, calling it "VIP customization," and it has become a popular trend.
Most of the users are wealthy elderly people, and it is a danger signal when the maintenance records are missing.
It is unlikely that Crown users in Japan have no maintenance records because Crowns are always serviced at Toyota dealers and are often used with great care.
Last but not least, Crowns used in Japanese police cars are rarely seen in the used car market because the engines are specially tuned.
If you have a chance to get one, you are so lucky that you may think you have won the lottery.
The wheels are steel with plastic covers, which is a classic specification, but the inside is tuned directly by Toyota, making it a super-rare spec.
Thank you for sharing
We missed out on most of these in Australia
thanks, chatgpt
Holy yap
I am a Japanese who rides in this car. My Japanese friends make fun of this car, but I was relieved to hear that people overseas seem to like it.
I want this car, one way or another. No other than Toyota makes great cars!
Why they make fun of it?
It's Japan dude. His friends probably own GTRs Supras, chasers and RX7s
Haha😂
In 1975 i bought a Crown 2.6 1967 model, in Perth for $ 300. i don't recall ever changing the oil....it was unstoppable, drove across the Nullarbor when it was unsealed for 400+ km. super comfy car even in those days.
A friend's father had one. You could not hear the engine running. Quieter than a 2020 Lexus.
I had a ford focus that I never changed its oil for I think 55,000kms or something? Thing still drove lol 😅
This is Jamaica's national car😂, the mark x is the runner up🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
Nonono my brotha. The Mark X leads by far, if u put all generations of the crowns together, the mark x still leads unfortunately. Every young guy out here wants a mark x as there first car. Even my brother has 1. Its crazy
The national car is the Probox.
@@ultimateblessingz Because mark x is cheaper 😂
You guys are absolute legends. I only recently purchased one from Japan and it's being shipped as we speak. Very reassuring to know it's just as good as I expected.
Who did you go through?
@@luketurner4524 Prestige Motorsport
what year
@@sazdaz5483
@@sazdaz5483what year is it and how much did u pay for shipping ?
I have the v8 majesta f package.
Its an absolute dream to drive.
Special for the majesta:
1. 20 speaker sound system with speakers in the rear headrest
2. Night vision if you have the full lcd gauge
3. Lane assist with adaptive cruise control
4. Adjustable air suspension ( it can last if you dont drop it to the ground like a lot of people)
5. As with all crowns, swinging vents haha
You forgot to mention that the G F package V8 models have rear seats options almost identical to top spec S Class or Lexus LS.
Hello, subscriber from the UK. When stationed overseas in the armed forces in the late 1960s, my dad purchased a Toyota Crown (MS55 model.) He then bought it back to the UK and kept it 10 years. It had so many features as standard and was very reliable. WOW what an amazing car it was.
Why do we only get the rubbish looking Toyota's in the UK! It's so frustrating.
ridiculously good car, very close to hitting the 200k subscribers, well done boys
Criminally underrated car! If not for the handful of question marks around it being an import, it might be the perfect car
Great to see a crown review. We have a great range of these in NZ. Please be aware this is an eCVT so it’s a planetary gear system, super reliable, much better than a conventional band/chain CVT.
Yes, but the 6 speed auto is much better imo.
My dream cars in my life,
1, Toyota Century,
2, Toyota Crown Majesta,
3, Toyota Alphard...
Damn right
I purchased my Toyota crown majesta G type F package in January 2022. I've put 65000km on it since then. Never missed a beat. On long highway drives I'm constantly averaging 13km/L about 7.7l/100km. It's very comfortable to drive with very smooth original factor air suspension. I love this car.
How much for mick may I ask and who’d you go through? 😊
This video made me buy one. I've never been more impressed with a car before, espeically one from 2009. It still feels modern.
Great review thanks guys. I have a 2005 LS430 and have had a similar experience. Nothing goes wrong, it’s SO comfortable, cheap to run and just wonderful. If you can’t find a Crown, try a 6 speed auto LS430 would fit the bill nicely.
I owned one for around 2 years. Before that I bought the factory service manual and translate the catalogue for around 2 years.
Some correction: the hybrid comes with 10 speakers standard. This one comes with 18 speaker "Toyota premium speaker system". However the extra 8 didn't contribute any to audio but rather active noise cancelling (notice the speakers on the shoulders of the front seats). I only occationally notice it's doing it's thing so good to have but not the deal breaker.
The air suspensions are only available for the long wheel base Majestas. Hybrids comes with computer controlled active suspension aka AVS (and through out 12 gen to 14 gen, the rear structs are always the achilles heels). The cheaper way is to buy the KYB oe replacement part KEG9331 (some extra parts are required but not provided) and unfortunately KYB AU didn't have those, you will have to buy them from Japan somehow. Put on any structs that didn't come with AVS will trigger 2 error codes (L/R rear struct actuator malfuction).
Some quirks:
E-CVT has nothing to do with bell/chain drive CVT, it's 2 motors with planetary gear sets.
Remove some trim panels and you will notice it's built on Lexus standards. The clips contacting surfaces comes with cloth, which also on the trim panel contacting points. The rattle you hear is likely cause by the rubbish in the cup holder.
Notice the card inside the centre console? They came out of the factory with 2 key fobs and 1 card key.
The trunk operates differently with most other cars. It can only be opened either by press the trunk open key on the driver side door card or have a key in your pocket and press the trunk open key on the right hand side on top of the rear licence plate. It won't open when the car is unlock but you don't have the key from the outside. Open the trunk will not change the lock state to unlock.
This should be the first Toyota with full digital dash (Doug DeMuro's rant!) and it's not for customisation but the night view system. My personal experience of the night view system is it's too laggy (~0.5-1 second) and the field of vision is too narrow. It's good to have when driving in poor lit residential area or close to forest (so you can see if any roo is trying to give you a nasty suprise) but that's it.
The one in the video has the interior led strips on top (kind of rare).
Mine came with the rear executive package so it's kind of like a 3-zone but it's not. There is an extra air box and evaporator top of the hybrid battery and provide cold air for rear passangers only. The vents are next to the rear grab handles (you will notice the grab handles are in a kind of akward position). If it didn't come with the air box nor the roof led strips, the vent holes will be replaced by a pair of extra map/reading lights.
Compare to an entry level new Camry which has around half of the horse power, the Camry comes with 235 width tyres, the Hybrid? 225. So DON'T do stupid things, especially in the wet. I'm thinking using 235/45 R18 tyres when the current ones wear out.
Also the LKA (lane keeping assit) is the early generations so didn't work as good as the currents ones but good to have.
If the car comes with LKA then there will be a plastic trim piece between the rear exhaust holes. There is a rear-facing radar behind it. If the radar detects a car coming too fast behing you the car will move the rear seat back to the upmost position and part of the front seat headrest will extend forward to reduce whiplash damage, also the hazard will flash automatically.
Unfortunately it's from an era when smoking is considered cool so you will likely need an ozone generator to kill the smell.
Awesome knowledge you share here, smoking is still cool in japan today.
I imported and got my GWS204(same hybrid model shown in the video) last month after looking at previous videos from you guys. Honestly best decision ever. Mine one has only 37000 kms over 15 years. Shout out to you guys!!!!!
How you feel about the hybrid mate? I’m also looking for importing one but struggling between this and athlete because the battery.😂
I'm looking at Majestas atm. That brilliant Yamaha infused Toyota v8 and so much JDM lux is close to irresistible. Great review.
Couldn't agree more!
I can import you one my good sir
Im also interested in one - what year are you looking at?? 2010??
I will never forget my 1974 Crown. Duck egg blue. Chrome everywhere. Bench rear seat. It's terrible for a P plater car, but alot of great memories and waves on a Sunday morning from people mistaking me for a car enthusiast.
seeing this video you should probably make a video about all the different models especially the Majesta it's such a work of art! that car is literally my dream car and I want to own one as soon as I can, not even kidding
Man amount of these i have started seeing these on marketplace is crazy. Would love to see smaller Toyota Fielder review in the future. Those thing are everywhere in perth these days. Love your work ❤
Love your videos and recommendations. Zambia 🇿🇲 watching 😊
Glad you like them!
What a beauty. The paint quality and colour looks amazing. It is allready a classic. Fantastic video. Thanks Guys, i am gona buy one.
I drive this car but non hybrid and i have to admit its the best thing ever..long live Crown..!!!
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Just recently purchased a 2008 GRS 204 Crown Athlete after lots of research and consideration.
Mate, absolutely amazing car. I agree with everything you've said. Great video mate too.
They are an incredibly good package, good looking, reliable, fast and fun.
Waaay better than a Commodore or Falcon and heaps cheaper than overpriced Euro stuff.
Just look for something unmolested and well looked after and you can't go wrong. Appreciate your time mate. 🙏👍
There is no doubt about it, Toyota do make very good cars, maybe the best. I have a 2005 Camry with the 1mz-fe engine. This has done 355000 km to date. The bodywork is tight and the engine is both very quiet and uses a barely noticeable amount of oil between changes (every 5000k + filter). The auto changes are so smooth as to be barely perceptible. Regarding repairs, a routine timing belt replacement and a new water pump have been the recent costs with an alternator a couple of years ago. The only mod has been 16 inch OEM alloys, they look nice! I'm tempted by the thought of an imported Crown but sadly inhibited financially. Never mind, at least I feel in the ballpark with my trusty Camry. Thanks for a well put together video, I'm an avid subscribed follower of redriven :)
I've got the 2005 V6 Camry as well. Best car I've ever owned.
I asked, you delivered! I actually own a 1981 Crown, which is getting a Quad cam V8 heart transplant. Even though it's ancient, it's still a great car to drive. 😊
Now thats a an actual toyota crown. Not the mockery they made in 2023.
Seen one in flesh. You can't tell the trim apart from a Camry.
The Crown is definitely a car I'd consider getting for myself even with the import question marks.
I'm definitely jealous of you guys getting to drive one for the review 😂.
I had to laugh at Hullsy's description of the German trio's engines as it was priceless.
Hard to believe you guys are 8k subscribers away from breaking the 200k subscribers so well done gents.
I'm definitely looking forward to Sunday's video and wonder if you guys will be doing an end of year wrap up next week.
Keep up the good work guys 👍.
This or the Lexus GS450h? Similar car / powertrain but potentially more support from Aussie Lexus dealerships. Though, perhaps low volume so might be the same problem sourcing parts
I just bought a fresh import 2012 gws204 hybrid here in Dublin, picking it up next week. I was initially looking at a 2014 GS450h but when i spotted the Crown at the same dealer with similar spec and same engine, lower price... I had to have it!
My brother imported one of these months ago (i think he got a 2010 one but not sure of the exact model) and its probably the one car so far that he hasnt whinged about yet early on. Took around 5 months altogether due to delays in Japan with getting the car sorted for import plus delays in getting a berth in a container ship but once it got here, it probably only took two weeks to get everything cleared by RMS and all compliance-related work done and sorted.
It's been his dream car for a long period as we grew up with a Crown as the family car (he learned driving in one without any power steering and full manual) and since he couldnt import the family car (would've cost a bomb in getting it repaired and compliance work alone plus, well, dad scrapped it before he retired), a newer Crown was the next best thing.
Ironically I was driving in Armadale, Victoria yesterday with my 25 year old daughter. She’s pretty much a car buff as myself. Love that! In traffic she points out one of these & says “What’s a Toyota Crown dad?” I rambled on “They were everywhere when I was growing up, but I e never seen such a late model! It’ll probably be a JDM import.” And here I am today!😵💫🤣
The latest model has to be one of the most sexiest cars I have seen in the flesh whilst in Japan. I'd buy one in a heartbeat if the price was right. Unfortunately dealers here are asking close to 85k for one where they are about 60k AUD brand new given the exchange rate.
2GR-FE is a classic ... I wish this had been the base for the Aurion. Rear wheel V6 or V8 with that peak Toyota build quality would have been a beautiful combination. Also, whoever owns that car ... wow - beautiful condition - paint looks brand new and the car is obviously loved. Would buy one in a heartbeat if I didn't love the car I have.
Thank you for your compliment! We bought this one after importing a few in and was so impressed with them. Will be replacing it with a 2021 model when the time comes!
I got myself a Toyota Crown. I imported it myself and it’s not a difficult process.
Mine is a non-hybrid 2005 GRS-184 crown Athlete. Super happy with the car love the acceleration, features, class in appearance and I love how special it makes me feel on the road.
Also not forgetting the mandatory wave from other Crownies. Best I’ve owned so far.
Who did you go through to import?
I got it myself mate. I have a friend in Japan who exports cars all over the world. My friend had a contact in Melbourne who took care of everything in Australia including registration.
@@deshanrajintha1356 will be appreciated if you share the contact to help to import
Great channel this. Wish we had a Re-driven in 🇬🇧 UK. Seen a few nice examples of imported Crowns here. They look amazing cars. The Japanese sure have made a fantastic vehicle here.
Mines finally landed from Japan, hopefully get to pick it up in a few weeks!
Been an owner of a S170 Crown Majesta V8 for a while, other than some minor stuff and a broken alternator this thing rocks, such a step up from my previous VW Passat. Super smooth and comfy, and when you press the pedal down it gives you the biggest smile there is. Would recommend!
hows the fuell consumption?
@@user-fq5yv6kd9s pretty ok for a 4L V8, mixed driving its between 10-14L/100km
PLEASE PLEASE DO THE OLD LX570 THE 2009 MODEL PLEASE
Hey Guys! Thanks so much been waiting a while for this. I was wondering if you guys can also review the Crowns’ closest rival; Infiniti Q50/70 sedans. I realise there aren’t many around which is why they’re kinda affordable as a next car. Thanks!
The Amaroks have the same window down feature with the remote. Actually a cool party trick in a hot climate.
I won the same car. 2010-2012 model. Hybrid. 18inch wheels. 0-100 in 6-7 sec. Silent and I would not think of anything else , unless someone day if I wanted a Toyota Century. Only prob is the Japanese infotainment. Absolutely absolutely love this. Can't explain enough. Wow.
This is Japan’s flag ship and a real piece of art, very comfortable and smooth ride. As a child, I was fortunate to be driving in an older model that was owned by my friend’s parents. Would definitely buy any model in a heartbeat
toyota century v12
How is the crown compare to the toyota aristo
Much bigger. Arristo is same platform as Lexus IS. Crown is GS.
Thanks, that was awesome! I am bloody loving your channel!
Glad you enjoy it!
Had my 2012 GWS204 HYBRID for a year now and so far nil issues they are honestly a great car
I own a Crown 2011, Is it possible to change the head unit(audio/ video system) any recommendations?
Unfortunately no, you can only put in a piggyback that provides Apple Carplay/Android Auto. Look up Crown Focus.
@@gogarageah yes. The kit that's full of compromise
These are proper and reliable vehicles...Actually, some of these crowns are better than some Mercedes-Benz.
Awesome review as always! Definitely like how you touch on things like how easy it is to upgrade to CarPlay etc
Yeah here we go!
The kits it is ready for you!
This car reminds me soo much of my Lexus GS450h just a little less conservative inside
Same drive train. Pretty much the same car mechanically. Brilliant cars.
my father was in the car repair game , he loved his 70s 3 crowns, a true Japanese legend
10:57 from a person based in EU who drives EU brands circa 45000 km per annum; f***ing nothing except huge bills and constant headaches..
I’m late seeing this but what the Euro’s offer is that they are imported here officially with all the advantages that has for parts, repairs and insurance. It’s such a pity that Toyota has never imported these here because I find a Camry about as exciting as single ply toilet paper but these are very appealing. They would sell all they imported if they offered them.
Brenton Wild, if you're on here, are you the guy who bought the hybrid battery for your Crown from Infinitev? I am the guy who sold it to you :D
Yep, that's me. My battery is going good lol
@@TheBeardedMiracle that's sick bro. Glad it's coming full circle 😆
Another great review. How about a ReDriven of the SAAB 9-3/9-5??
It's crap same engine as a Holden astra
Not surprised about the level of comfort and refinement. This generation of the Crown is built off the same "N" platform architecture alongside the Lexus LS (XF40) and GS (S190). I'm in the USA so we still have to wait 10-15 years to import these gems.
Forgot to mention the platform is identical (mechanically) to the same year Lexus GS.
Pricing is a lot cheaper for what you’re posting, with 100,000k models in good nick in the mid teens for the NA V6’s.
Do the brother of this next please- The Mark X! Great vid as always boys!
ReDriven just keeps get better and better. Very entertaining duo. Concept of mechanics opinion is brilliant. Top job with every upload. 👍🏼
been waiting for this 👀
Whenever you do a review on a Toyota Jim breathes a sigh of relief.
These cars are a Hit in Jamaica and the Caribbean. "EVERY KING NEEDS CROWN"😊
Your comments Adam about the ashtray and ciggie lighter sounds like an ex smoker, or you lived with someone who suffered the effects of tobacco. (I sit here gasping with emphysema). I am a Lexus follower but I didn't know about the availability of the Crown. Do they do a wagon? The window down trick is also found in the Skoda Octavia along with auto up windows if it rains. If the Crown has auto wipers then it will also close the windows in rain. I don't know what Jim is on about when he thinks the VAG engines are a precious butterfly. My Skoda has 102,000 ks on it and it is only on its second rebuilt engine. At 78 years old I would fit one of these Crowns perfectly, but only if it was a wagon. Thanks guys for another great video.
102,000 kms and it's on its second engine? That's not great if that's the case
102,000km on its second engine is... really bad. I just sold my G6E, and it'd done 354,000km on its original engine and transmission, zero mechanical problems.
I'm from Bangladesh and sadly there's not a large automotive youtube scene surrounding used cars. Fortunately I just discovered your channel and AU's unique situation (no more local brands r.i.p Holden) is just perfect for reviewing used cars. But I do hope What goes wrong mechanically should be a separate and larger section of the video. That kind of info is invaluable. Subbed! Keep up the good work.
I have been researching about this car for a few weeks now and found so many 2GR oil leak reports and they are very costly to fix. The Car Care Nut covered that engine in a video.
I watch his channel too, bloke knows his Toyota's.
weird, its suppose to be a very rare problem on the newer versions of the 2GR. Its an old engine that has been refined for many years. Were you looking at sub 2011 models?
@@DAh-xo8zm coincidentally yes, I had interest specifically on the Crown GRS204. I really cannot find any info regarding engine updates on the face lifted version 2011-2012.
on the older versions I believe there was a braided rubber pipe that use to wear and break catastrophically, which was replaced by an aluminum pipe in newer versions. It can be upgraded on older versions though. Other than that, the only oil issues are related to poor maintenance and not changing oil every 8000km. @@YuichiTamaki
Sold my 2009 2GR FSE Crown last year. ( UK 🇬🇧) owned 2 years. Absolutely amazing cars, soft close doors were to die for. Kit it had on for a 2009 was 2nd to none. I've worked in the garage trade since 1986, I'd not have anything else than Toyota for my day to day cars. The Crown 👑 was a flying machine also. Shocked many German cars whos drivers were clueless about the Crown, saying that most German car owners are blinkered and clueless anyway 😂. Good video 📹 on a fantastic car I'd recommend anyone to try one. Keep your German crap. 😊
Hey I think u should check out another JDM car I don’t know if u get them in AUSTRALIA but u should check out the Toyota mark X
Yes see them all over Japan..No Australian compliance plate not so good .
Nice work, can you please do an episode for the latest crown?
Is the newer crown models worth it? Prefer the look of the 2018 models rven though they are more expensive... is it worth the extra cash?
These are common ASF in NZ and soooo much cheaper!😏 The CVT is much better than others, but the 6 speed auto Toyota used in the older models (like mine, 3.0 V6), is a much better transmission imo. Great cars, super reliable and extremely comfortable rides!
I own the same car model but with the modellista kit instead of the wald kit. I can not fault the car and wont be looking for an upgrade anytime soon unless i can afford a newer model crown
Can you do a majesta next? I know it’s nearly the same car but that’s the one I want and ur videos are so great and would love to see one of it
I've never seen a Crown of any vintage in anything other than mint condition. It's like they just don't deteriorate. Why buy a Lexus when this offers more for less?
My friend has one.. I tried drove it a few times. Absolutely love it. Personally I think German cars can't even compare to this car
Had this vehicle for two years with the 4GR 2.4L engine. Best car I ever had
I literally thought the other day of sending you a message to do a video on the Crown! And here it is! Love you guys 🎉
Hope you enjoyed it!
Yes finally what I've been waiting for! Will be buying one as soon as I can!
I personally prefer the Mark X since it can come with RWD, AWD and a Turbo or NA V6.
What’s the fuel economy like ?
I get 7L / 100km more or less
@@1250GSXreal? That’s pretty good. I know cause it’s from Japan it comes up on the dash as 9km/l just confirming it is in fact 7 litres per 100km
@@B33ond yeah. Comes up 13-14 km per liter most of the time.
Hello from New Zealand. I saw a Crown Station Wagon in the supermarket car park. As I was looking at it the owner turned up. We had a good talk about it , 2.4 litre 4 cylinder rear wheel drive, 1997. That is the only one I have seen. He was thinking about putting a Lexus 4.0 V8 in it...if it would fit. Love your channel.
I have two of them they are brilliant
I just bought one before yesterday 😂I was try searching crown cabin fitter your video comes up.
Good work
Probably the most underrated medium sized luxury car in Australia. Why did Toyota Australia choose not import these? Now that the Lexus GS is no longer being made this is now the only option, except for maybe an older Lexus LS.
$15-35k!! Can get a decent one for around $8k in nz
where is the link to upgrade the radio
I literally just took delivery of my 2010 Majesta G/F pack today. Holy hell, it is a lot of car, absolute auto perfection. Cruised up the highway from Syd to Newy at 110 doing 1400rpm, in total luxury. Buy one. Buy one now, before they get in high demand!
Huge congrats, mate. Hope it’s the start of a great relationship.
You've just added 10k to the price guys 😂😂. Although my 2010 Aurion is on 300k, so maybe time for an upgrade 🤔 another great video
300K?? What
What about the hybrid battery as the crowns of this era are basically 12-16 years old
I gotta say it. Love ya work everyone. You all go good. Great channel. Cheers.
Cheers Keith! Appreciate the kind words 🙏
@@ReDrivenGday I couldn’t find the link for the CarPlay kits for the crown ?
The Japanese certainly know how to make a great sedan
Is there any version of this type of car with an open hatch boot?
The centre console panel says "destination", does GPS navigation work in Australia?
No
awesome
you got me bro, i am gettting a crown
I had a crown 2012, it's a legend of a car, I had 4gr-fse...what a beautiful car, it's heavenly to drive!!