I love how they mentioned Kennedy reading Guns of August (I highly recommend anyone who into history to read that book). Guns of August does a really good inside detail depth showing the severely overly complicated alliances, treaties, pacts, and god knows what else that the European nations had with each other before The Great War. It explains how The Great War couldn't be stopped even if we wanted to because of the past alliances and treaties making it impossible for one nation to do so. It drives into detail how gruesome and mindbogglingly these alliances would shape Europe and the rest of the world into what it become today. Kennedy was so afraid about the Cuban Missile Crisis reenacting the events of the Great War because he drew so many similar comparisons between what he read in Guns of August and what happening to him now. I can not emphasize how impactful Guns of August was in helping Kennedy preventing WWIII.
@@ciaranoconnell4783 Wilhelm II, who was related to Queen Victoria, and cousin to the majority of European royal families because centuries of incest breeding. For you to claim Wilhelm II started WWI when Serbia laid the first shots points your ignorance and bias towards history.
@@rufuspipemos The two films should be watched together. Missiles of October has the Soviet view point in the Kremlin. Both films are very good to learn the history.
This film is historically accurate to a large degree, and told in a dramatic and entertaining fashion. Not a well known film, really, but well made with many fine performances--Popcorn history at it's finest! If it will get a kid to pick up a book, it's well worth showing in high school history classes.
Agreed. I've read books and some documentaries that tackled this cuban missile crisis and really amazed that they got most of the things right. Sure they inserted some scenes for more dramatization but the majority that were in the film really happened based on the books and accounts given by the people involved, even some of the conversation that could be heard in JFK's White House tapes were included. And the actors did a great job. This is one of my favorite movies.
I feel the term popcorn history is derogatory, like 'real' history is only found in textbooks. Bad memories of terrible, dry-as-a-bone university textbooks and also dry and disinterested professors reeking of intellectual snobbery probably have something to do with it. And how history cannot be entertaining, it's almost like they try to make it uninteresting as a fuck-you to the bestsellers and the writers who do make it interesting.
'This film is historically accurate to a large degree' No it isn't. Not in the slightest. Its been widely criticized for being absurdly inaccurate and people taking the film as actual fact
It is somewhat accurate but not historically. Events are somewhat reasonably portrayed. But Ken O’ Donnell played almost no role in the entire affair. His role was exaggerated. There are some other issues with the movie but overall its still good.
The film does a good job at telling the story of the Cuban Missile Crisis, and as such is worth watching. I do have several historical problems with it: - Ken O'Donnell is shown as playing a much larger role in the crisis than he actually did. This was probably to give Kevin Costner more screen time. - The movie talks about tactical nuclear weapons in Cuba for use against the landing craft. Outside of the fact that the weapons themselves were not correctly identified (a nit, but not a huge problem), the Kennedy administration did not know about the tactical nuclear weapons at all, and the fact wasn't revealed until after the Soviet Union broke up. - Including the Turkish bases as a part of the deal was only known to a select few of the American ExCom, and not acknowledged until years later.
A lot of wars start this way one side attack the other and every time the other does something back a small step each intil nobody knows who started it.
We got idiots saying “don’t worry about 🇷🇺 thousands of nuclear weapons, just put American boots on the ground and jets over Ukraine 🇺🇦 and Putin wont do zilch!” Im so glad these clowns are not in position of authority to order such a move . The world Will live longer
Now we are in the 2022... exactly 60 years later... and humanity once again found itself on the edge of the nuclear holocaust... because THIRSTY FOR BLOOD COMPLETE PSYCHO from Kremlin decided that it came the time for restoration of the USSR under all possible cost... 🤦♂️
Thirteen Days is so underappreciated. This is probably my favorite scene in the entire movie. I’ll never forget watching it in high school back in 2013(in my health class, of all classes…). Been a fan of it ever since.
If the nukes start flying, grab your dvd player, your Mad Max Films and find a place to hide, but don't forget the remote power supply with lots of batteries.
There are many great scenes in this movie. For example, I like this one: ruclips.net/video/D88oqRWFZ5U/видео.html It's how I believe government (or any executive body) should solve pressing issues: get a group of great minds in a room and brainstorm until there is an acceptable solution.
Bingo. First the CIA places Batista in power in 1952 via a coup, than the CIA recognized the mistake of placing corrupt, bloodthirsty and cruel Batista in power the CIA tried to remedy the situation by helping Castro come to power. By 1961 these were among the CIA's greatest blunders. Than when one adds the bay of pigs disaster in 1962, it is easy to understand JFK's frustration with Dulles and the CIA. The lost of Cuba has cost the US US$trillion (Present value) in additional military expeditures over the past 60 years.
A Goodman who wanted to do the right thing surrounded by Wolves! They massacred him in the broad daylight! But his ideas will live forever! May the world be at peace! May long live the fame of JFK!
“They” did not massacre anyone! LHO shot three bullets with two hitting JFK and one bullet passed thru him and struck Governor Connolly! This case was solved inside of 48 hours!!!
0:08 The reference to Barbara Tuchman´s book ThE GUNS OF AUGUST about WORLD WAR I is true . JFK had really used her book as a verbal reference in this crisis. In fact that Kennedy had held the historian in so high esteem made her internationaly famous.
This is debated as her book had barely gone to print when the Cuban Missile Crisis happened and there is no evidence that Kennedy ever had an advanced copy
Its incredible how the people in this room were responsible for averting WW3, while under the different administration, these same people (most of them) were responsible for the Vietnam war.
This incident started when Kennedy delivered the Saturn ICBMs to Turkey which threatened the USSR due to their point blank proximity. In response they put ICBMs in Cuba and only then the United States realized their mistake. So to make the long story short: "The men in this room who were responsible for bringing us minutes away from WW3 scrambled into a way to fix their mistakes and avert a thermonuclear ping pong match between two superpowers, which explains why some of them ended up backing up the Vietnam bollocks fest a few years after the event.
I have a somewhat tangential relationship to this history. While I was born two weeks after Kennedy took his oath of office, I ultimately ended up as a Navy seaman serving aboard one of the destroyers that had been part of the Cuban quarantine. And I still recall reading "Profiles In Courage" as a youngster -- on my own, without being told to do so by any teacher. I love this film.
JFK’s Oval Office was the first to have the two sofas and coffee table that has become iconic and a staple of every following President, minus only Carter, who had back to back sofas. Just an interesting point about the setting!
@@Bertiesghost I mean, he had the coffee table setup, but all sofas, no arm chairs, then had a sofa back to back with the fire facing sofa, so that there was a sofa facing the desk. And you’re forgetting that he brought people together to not vote a republican in after Watergate, so that’s something at least…
President Putin: Thank you, you all know I can't do this, but I want to have my way, so my bluff must work. Do remind everybody again and again because I am going to murder millions the conventional way! And you will make the world look away! Thank you thank you thank you! I will promote you personally to my co-conspirator! The blood I make rain will be your blame!
@@aluisiousstop with the bullshit, russia's red line was ukraine. They warned for years even before 2014. Then the US went and made a coup in ukraine and put a russian hating cabinet and war erupted in donbass, nothing would have happened if the CIA wouldn't mess things up, but that's like asking a dog to not bark.
Agreed. One of the best film performances by an actor I have ever seen. No outbursts and no "actor's moments." Tense, controlled, spare and a great evocation of JFK. I have never seen him portrayed better.
My Dad was supposed to be part of the invasion - the Marines would land, take the beach, and then my Dad’s unit would have landed and began firing tactical nukes at the Russians. Except 1) they thought there were 10-12k Russians, not 40k, and 2) the Russians had tactical nukes of their own. My dad said that if Johnson or Nixon had been the POTUS he and his unit would have been nuked before they ever landed - he, my mom, everybody from Homestead to DC to Offutt to would have died on the first and last day of WW3.
I'm glad to see that someone as insightful as you knows your history and thank God we all didn't die including your dad I'm sure you have life-long memories to share cuz he has to imagine if Nixon would have been in there at that time Kennedy was the right man at the right time God bless
Beware of the Military Industrial Complex.. you are dealing with people of power, the generals-admirals, who have GIANT egos.. and politicians (or family) who are on boards of defence contractors that will obtain those huge contracts...look at this film.. which was a true incident in that Lemay and company wanted to send planes in for recon KNOWING that there was a good chance that they would be shot down to start the fucking thing... these people are fucking SICK
We did know at the time that some of their missiles were operational. There was an interesting interview in the 90's with a Russian officer who was in Cuba in charge of those weapons. He said that if the USA invaded Cuba, he was authorized to launch immediately without further authorization and he would have done it. Kennedy saved us from WW3.
Kennedy had a grasp of history and psychology. Last president who in my opinion was not the main choice of the networks and groups that really run the world. Author Taylor Caldwell captured all that in her opus The Captains and the Kings.
Yet the thing is nowadays compromise is almost evil to a certain percentage of people. It's either one way or the other and that never works in real life.
If the nukes start flying, grab your dvd player, your Mad Max Films and find a place to hide, but don't forget the remote power supply with lots of batteries.
Another great book about WW1 is The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914; which goes in a very similar direction trying to explain the effects which lead to WW1.
Great movie. It really details the enormous burden on Kennedy and it is the best example of presidential leadership today and for the ages. President Kennedy led in an extraordinary way in those 13 days. He was an amazing leader and he proved it under tremendous nuclear threat, and inhalation of the world in 1963. It is the template on how to lead as a world leader.
It's hard to see in this clip, but there is a slight darkening in the lighting around President Kennedy's face when he says 'and we fire ours'. It's a subtle change, but it highlights the gravity of the situation.
The situation in Ukraine is another example of how states don't think they can back down and get involved in an unstoppable spiral of righteous escalation.
@@Mack-ht4mw actually the West can easily or probably is putting the ball and Putin's Court does he really want to press that button if we push his forces back to the his borders? Does he really want to be the man who is responsible for taking out at least a good chunk of civilization Knowing damn well the West doesn't have any intention on invading his country?
No, it isn't. It's not a death spiral that sparked off from minor tensions. Russia lined up their tanks and invaded for the purpose of annexation. That's not a butterfly effect of reciprocity. That's a warmonger who is warmongering.
@Pragmatic Skeptic It is possible you truly believe that. It's more likely you're being paid in cabbage. What I'd suggest is, the next time you murder, try blaming somebody else for making you do it and see how that goes for you.
@Pragmatic Skeptic The amount of victim blaming around Ukraine is disgusting, unfortunately for you Putin himself has admitted this is an attempt to recapture old territories, not that *any* of his other claims would justify the invasion of a sovereign nation. (this is after Russia accepted Ukraine's sovereign boarders, and after Russia got Ukraine's nuclear weapons in a deal to never invade Ukraine) If you want to look at who is to blame for invading Ukraine, try looking at the government invading Ukraine. Even *if* they joined NATO Russia still has the *single largest nuclear armoury on earth,* meaning it will *never* get invaded. The only response Putin supporters have to this is to point out all the atrocities committed by the states, which literally do nothing to justify Russian atrocities, essentially throwing "two wrongs make right" because that's the only thing that resembles an argument.
Well considering without his Cloud that movie which was quite excellent by the way would not have gotten made I think you better be damned grateful he did. That book sat in Hollywood for about 9 years until his production company got a hold of it.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars." -Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS NOT PERFECT IN HIS PERSONAL MARITAL LIFE BUT AS A PRESIDENT I ADMIRE HIM FOR HIS LOVE OF HUMANITY AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. ONE OF MY FAVORITE PRESIDENTS IF NOT THE FAVORITE OF ALL TIME..
like anybodys marital life is perfect lol a fucking sane man would love for a chance to fuck any woman he wants as much as kennedy did, he even slept with Marilyn monroe! obviously leftists don't want to talk about that since he was an inspiring Democrat lmao JFK was both a great man and a great president who did his best in office for the Sake of the people. look up Meredith case, trump would have stayed silent during the whole thing assuming he had the balls to be against segregation. JFK was flawed but arnt we all? hate it when people hate on the Kennedys for this shit, whatever they did in marital life had nothing to do with the political frontier, they were just pussy hunters like most of us strive to be. we are all only human. also the dude was going through lots of treatments that affected his sex drive....
david stanley I READ THE TUSCHMAN BOOK . EUROPE WAS A POWDER KEG . IF THE ASSASSINATION OF THAT ARCHDUKE DIDN'T TAKE PLACE , SOMETHING ELSE WOULD TRIGGER WW1 .
They were smart guys, but they sure as hell were not decent and honorable. JFK was a major sleazebag. Robert was not as bad but covered up some real bs for his brother. I’ll give them credit for Cuba, but I won’t label them decent or honorable.
Humanity changed when we detonated the first atomic bomb. At last, we had unleashed the crucible of war upon ourselves, a thousand times over, a million times over. It was the first time in our entire history that the act of war scared everyone who could possibly start one.
Long story short, thank Kennedy for the fact that the human race still exists today & the planet didn’t go back to the stone age or become totally inhibitable…
This was a Great Movie!! This was the 1st. Time I had seen this actor ( whose name escapes me at the moment ) in a movie. I asked my friends at the time if they had seen this movie the night before. I said “ The Guy Who Played Kennedy Was So Good In It” I apologize to him for not recalling his name. He was also Great in “ Double Jeopardy “ With Ashley Judd and Morgan Freeman!!
The most deadly game of chess anyone has had to play. And the consequences was a NUCLEAR WAR if he made the wrong move. All I can say is (Politics aside) thank GOD the right people where in power at the time.
Why? There is literally no possibility whatsoever of it becoming anything more than a local issue that wears down both sides. If you think its going to lead to some kind of giant war under literally any circumstances you're delusional
Such a great scene and great job by Bruce Greenwood, this is one of my favorite movies. It's so incredibly important to have steady, level-headed leadership in times of crisis. Can you seriously imagine Donald Trump in this situation? Geezus krist.
If the nukes start flying, grab your dvd player, your Mad Max Films and find a place to hide, but don't forget the remote power supply with lots of batteries.
We literally have no idea just how bloody close we came. Kennedy was prepared after his televised speech, to evacuate Washington D.C. Imagine how that would have played out in Moscow! Literally, one bad decision and none of us would be here writing this.
he tempered a good mix of hawkish and dovish strategies into his well-tempered approach, a naval blockade, in contrast to the hawk's strategy of full-scale invasion and the dove's strategy of non-action and diplomatic talks.
It is highly doubtful that Kennedy read the Guns of August as the Cuban Missile Crisis was in October of 1962 and the Guns of August had just gone to print in late 1962 so there is little chance a copy was available for him to read…while a great book this is a literary invention
"The Guns Of August" was published during the week.of January 28, 1962 - February 3, 1962, about nine months before the Cuban Missile Crisis arose. President Kennedy had had ample time to have read the book beforehand. Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara had given President Kennedy a copy of the book.
@@vivianpowell1732 No doubt you are right. It would seem that something so easily checked and a pivotal point in the movie, would be naively done in error Not this movie.
This is kind of a miss read. The takeaway from The Guns of August isn’t that technology changed which caused miss-calculations. The book has a detailed analysis about how the Kaiser was basically set up by his own military establishment into starting WW1. On the eve of war with Russia the Kaiser wanted to cancel the Western invasion plan entirely, to not go to war with Brittain and France (well at least Brittain could have staid out) by avoiding invading Belgium. The Kaiser, the titular head of the German monarchy was told by Moltke that that it was impossible to not go to war in the West because the troops were already on railroads heading West. Because the timetables were already worked out. This was days before the actual shooting war started. That’s the less of the book: Don’t trust the Military high command.
Fubar AlAkbar I think you’re over looking the significance of this scene. It’s not that Kennedy wasn’t listening to his military advisors. It was that he was in fact listening. And, he realized that what he was listening to from them was an primitive way of addressing the issue at hand. Kennedy realized that the world was changing and that you couldn’t just apply knee jerk solutions that were based upon outdated solutions/strategies.
I was looking up the dates. Guns of August was published the same year as this event, but Kennedy says he read it “last summer” in the film. What’s true?
Dobbs, Michael (2008). One Minute to Midnight. pp. 226-227. "The President was so impressed by the book that he often quoted from it, and insisted his aides read it. He wanted 'every officer in the Army' to read it as well. The secretary of the Army sent copies to every U.S. military base in the world."
At the time of the cuban missile crisis, the Soviet Union only had maybe a dozen or so ICBMs and they weren't very good ICBMs. We thought they had a lot more because we had a lot more. But it is part of the reason the soviets wanted missiles in cuba, because they had intermediate range missiles that could then actually hit the US.
@@22espec Those Jupiter missiles were obsolescent, Kennedy had it in mind since his inauguration to remove them, they were not part of a reciprocal obligation in the deal over the crisis and was subject to NATO consultation in any case, and in the end the role of those missiles in Turkey and Italy was taken up by one of our Polaris submarines. Also, those missiles were a minor consideration in the Soviet decision to put missiles in Cuba. The main drivers of that policy decision were to secure Cuba from a U.S. invasion, shore up the overall Soviet position in Latin America, and to act as a stopgap until newer and more accurate ICBMs could be brought online which would not happen before 1965 at the earliest. Second to that was a means to pressure the U.S. over West Berlin. The Jupiter missiles may have inspired Khrushchev's plan but more important considerations were front and centre. It was a typical big Khrushchev gamble to try to kill three birds with one stone and he was looking for much larger concessions from Kennedy than just Cuba and the Jupiters.
When movies like this were on as a kid I'd be bored as shit to watch it. The lunch scene in Jurassic Park. I appreciate the other side of war films when it shows literally the gears of war turning. The conversations and intricacies that lead to conflict. Political or corporate intrigue (Big Short, Margin Call) makes for good watching.
jfk issued orders to McNamara that copies of tuchmans' book be sent to the captains aboard every ship on task to enforce the blockade,,,,,, kennedy quoted the last couple sentences of the book, ' sic reporter asked a french diplomat how it all started, the guy sighed,,,,,'then,,'ahh if only we knew'
If Kennedy ever really did say something close to the line that starts at 0:53 and goes to the end of the video then he was so far ahead of the curve regarding world peace that no one around him could see what he was looking at. He should have gone on national TV and said that line. Then maybe more people would have understood what he was trying to do.
All of this has to be seen in the context of the June 1961 Vienna summit between jfk and khruschev The failed bay of pigs invasion The proxy war in Laos and the Berlin wall The summit did not go well Khruschev formed the opinion that Jfk was inexperienced and weak This led to the cuban missile crisis
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I love how they mentioned Kennedy reading Guns of August (I highly recommend anyone who into history to read that book). Guns of August does a really good inside detail depth showing the severely overly complicated alliances, treaties, pacts, and god knows what else that the European nations had with each other before The Great War. It explains how The Great War couldn't be stopped even if we wanted to because of the past alliances and treaties making it impossible for one nation to do so. It drives into detail how gruesome and mindbogglingly these alliances would shape Europe and the rest of the world into what it become today. Kennedy was so afraid about the Cuban Missile Crisis reenacting the events of the Great War because he drew so many similar comparisons between what he read in Guns of August and what happening to him now. I can not emphasize how impactful Guns of August was in helping Kennedy preventing WWIII.
idk, I still blame Wilhelm II for the First World War.
@@ciaranoconnell4783 Wilhelm II, who was related to Queen Victoria, and cousin to the majority of European royal families because centuries of incest breeding. For you to claim Wilhelm II started WWI when Serbia laid the first shots points your ignorance and bias towards history.
Brandon and his predecessors were not interested in an opportunity for allegiance with peace. It’s been coming down the tracks a long time.
@@WatcherMovie008 so what your saying, since all these European families were related through inbreeding, was that WWI was nothing but a family thing.
@@brandonreed6596 In a dark sense of humor, yes. You can trace most European families today back to a relative or directly to Queen Victoria herself.
Bruce Greenwood plays JFK better then any other actor. His "accent" is perfect....not over the top like most who try.....
My favorite film portrayal of Kennedy. As great as Martin Sheen and Greg Kinnear may have been.
The scenes where they are gathered on the porch are pure iconic.
William Devane, from a PBS series called "Missiles of October," is my fave. The same subject! Check it out.
Until now. Bill Burr.
@@rufuspipemos The two films should be watched together. Missiles of October has the Soviet view point in the Kremlin. Both films are very good to learn the history.
A society grows great when old men plant trees, the shade of which they know they will never sit in.
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@@junesilvermanb2979Then entitled snots who never built anything throw red paint on them and burn them down to get attention to themselves.
This film is historically accurate to a large degree, and told in a dramatic and entertaining fashion. Not a well known film, really, but well made with many fine performances--Popcorn history at it's finest! If it will get a kid to pick up a book, it's well worth showing in high school history classes.
Agreed. I've read books and some documentaries that tackled this cuban missile crisis and really amazed that they got most of the things right. Sure they inserted some scenes for more dramatization but the majority that were in the film really happened based on the books and accounts given by the people involved, even some of the conversation that could be heard in JFK's White House tapes were included. And the actors did a great job. This is one of my favorite movies.
I feel the term popcorn history is derogatory, like 'real' history is only found in textbooks.
Bad memories of terrible, dry-as-a-bone university textbooks and also dry and disinterested professors reeking of intellectual snobbery probably have something to do with it.
And how history cannot be entertaining, it's almost like they try to make it uninteresting as a fuck-you to the bestsellers and the writers who do make it interesting.
'This film is historically accurate to a large degree'
No it isn't. Not in the slightest. Its been widely criticized for being absurdly inaccurate and people taking the film as actual fact
It is somewhat accurate but not historically. Events are somewhat reasonably portrayed. But Ken O’ Donnell played almost no role in the entire affair. His role was exaggerated. There are some other issues with the movie but overall its still good.
The film does a good job at telling the story of the Cuban Missile Crisis, and as such is worth watching. I do have several historical problems with it:
- Ken O'Donnell is shown as playing a much larger role in the crisis than he actually did. This was probably to give Kevin Costner more screen time.
- The movie talks about tactical nuclear weapons in Cuba for use against the landing craft. Outside of the fact that the weapons themselves were not correctly identified (a nit, but not a huge problem), the Kennedy administration did not know about the tactical nuclear weapons at all, and the fact wasn't revealed until after the Soviet Union broke up.
- Including the Turkish bases as a part of the deal was only known to a select few of the American ExCom, and not acknowledged until years later.
This is one of the scariest scenes I've ever seen. One step. One step too far can put you down a road you can't come back from.
A lot of wars start this way one side attack the other and every time the other does something back a small step each intil nobody knows who started it.
We got idiots saying “don’t worry about 🇷🇺 thousands of nuclear weapons, just put American boots on the ground and jets over Ukraine 🇺🇦 and Putin wont do zilch!” Im so glad these clowns are not in position of authority to order such a move . The world
Will live longer
Now we are in the 2022... exactly 60 years later... and humanity once again found itself on the edge of the nuclear holocaust... because THIRSTY FOR BLOOD COMPLETE PSYCHO from Kremlin decided that it came the time for restoration of the USSR under all possible cost... 🤦♂️
We should all be thankful for JFK for not going down that road.
@@cennon Kennedy s we’re weak.
Thirteen Days is so underappreciated. This is probably my favorite scene in the entire movie. I’ll never forget watching it in high school back in 2013(in my health class, of all classes…). Been a fan of it ever since.
To be be fair, radiation does effect your health.
If the nukes start flying, grab your dvd player, your Mad Max Films and find a place to hide, but don't forget the remote power supply with lots of batteries.
There are many great scenes in this movie. For example, I like this one:
ruclips.net/video/D88oqRWFZ5U/видео.html
It's how I believe government (or any executive body) should solve pressing issues: get a group of great minds in a room and brainstorm until there is an acceptable solution.
That VOICE and accent. He really nails it.
JFK's greatest moment involved ignoring his military and following his Intuition. We are alive today because of JFK.
Bingo.
First the CIA places Batista in power in 1952 via a coup, than the CIA recognized the mistake of placing corrupt, bloodthirsty and cruel Batista in power the CIA tried to remedy the situation by helping Castro come to power. By 1961 these were among the CIA's greatest blunders. Than when one adds the bay of pigs disaster in 1962, it is easy to understand JFK's frustration with Dulles and the CIA.
The lost of Cuba has cost the US US$trillion (Present value) in additional military expeditures over the past 60 years.
Bingo!
Dulles' CIA were checker players playing chess. They lost and the Cuban people paid the price.
@MrHoppers002 probly cuz they didn't like JFK, wanted him to look bad.
@ V Cab Actually it is Lt. Col. Stanislav Yevgrafovich Petrov who deserves that title. Who is he? Google : Russian Colonel who saved the world.
You forgot Bobby and Kenny. They helped tremendously
Bruce Greenwood was excellent in the role as JFK
He was so perfect as JFK, you’d almost think he came back to life❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️
He's my fav Hollywood JFK, Jille Henessy is my fav Jackie Bouvier
Yeah, he gets the voice pretty much spot on.
Bruce Greenwood is caPtain Pike in star trek
Then he played the president in the 2nd National Treasure film.
A Goodman who wanted to do the right thing surrounded by Wolves! They massacred him in the broad daylight! But his ideas will live forever! May the world be at peace! May long live the fame of JFK!
“They” did not massacre anyone! LHO shot three bullets with two hitting JFK and one bullet passed thru him and struck Governor Connolly! This case was solved inside of 48 hours!!!
0:08 The reference to Barbara Tuchman´s book ThE GUNS OF AUGUST about WORLD WAR I is true . JFK had really used her book as a verbal reference in this crisis. In fact that Kennedy had held the historian in so high esteem made her internationaly famous.
It was highly regarded at the time, but her analysis has quite a lot of problems that historians recognize now.
This is debated as her book had barely gone to print when the Cuban Missile Crisis happened and there is no evidence that Kennedy ever had an advanced copy
@@pluginleah And there's a possibility that the book will be made into a movie
Literally the lessons of this event have been forgotten .
Agree.!!!
Decision making is the decision of one person. That is leadership.
The guy who played Bobby was absolutely spot on perfect in his role
I couldn't imagine being in his shoes trying to stop World War III.
Its incredible how the people in this room were responsible for averting WW3, while under the different administration, these same people (most of them) were responsible for the Vietnam war.
This incident started when Kennedy delivered the Saturn ICBMs to Turkey which threatened the USSR due to their point blank proximity. In response they put ICBMs in Cuba and only then the United States realized their mistake. So to make the long story short: "The men in this room who were responsible for bringing us minutes away from WW3 scrambled into a way to fix their mistakes and avert a thermonuclear ping pong match between two superpowers, which explains why some of them ended up backing up the Vietnam bollocks fest a few years after the event.
The people in that room did not start Vietnam. Johnson and MacNamara did.
The TV movie missiles of October is gripping from the 70s....William Devane superb as Kennedy
I have a somewhat tangential relationship to this history. While I was born two weeks after Kennedy took his oath of office, I ultimately ended up as a Navy seaman serving aboard one of the destroyers that had been part of the Cuban quarantine. And I still recall reading "Profiles In Courage" as a youngster -- on my own, without being told to do so by any teacher. I love this film.
JFK’s Oval Office was the first to have the two sofas and coffee table that has become iconic and a staple of every following President, minus only Carter, who had back to back sofas. Just an interesting point about the setting!
Trust Carter to have back to back sofas. He couldn’t bring people together.
@@Bertiesghost I mean, he had the coffee table setup, but all sofas, no arm chairs, then had a sofa back to back with the fire facing sofa, so that there was a sofa facing the desk. And you’re forgetting that he brought people together to not vote a republican in after Watergate, so that’s something at least…
Bruce greenwood is so underrated.hes a good actor
I agree
People: “No fly zone over Ukraine!”
Me: *this video*
President Putin: Thank you, you all know I can't do this, but I want to have my way, so my bluff must work. Do remind everybody again and again because I am going to murder millions the conventional way! And you will make the world look away! Thank you thank you thank you! I will promote you personally to my co-conspirator! The blood I make rain will be your blame!
Not the same. Putin won't stop. Next will be Moldova, then what? Poland?
@@aluisious Who cares about Poland?
@@aluisiousstop with the bullshit, russia's red line was ukraine. They warned for years even before 2014. Then the US went and made a coup in ukraine and put a russian hating cabinet and war erupted in donbass, nothing would have happened if the CIA wouldn't mess things up, but that's like asking a dog to not bark.
@@aluisious it's exactly the same, ya dolt
Today, I Wish we had a president that had enough balls to stand up against the military industrial complex and their agents.
Me too.
Instead we have a figurehead Dementia patient, with the puppet master living on Martha's Vineyard. 🤫
And now we're inviting the leader of the country that assassinated Kennedy to address Congress....
Tis a shame.
I still feel that Bruce Greenwood did the best portrayal of John f Kennedy on film
I agree. He was brilliant.
He was good
Agreed. One of the best film performances by an actor I have ever seen. No outbursts and no "actor's moments." Tense, controlled, spare and a great evocation of JFK. I have never seen him portrayed better.
I think he gave a more powerful persona to JFK than what JFK actually had.
Martin Sheen in the classic 1983 mini series Kennedy is my stand out
That actor looks so much like Robert Kennedy
Steven Culp was great in Thirteen Days
He also played RFK in another movie.
@@toddsmitts bruce or steven?
Who...?!!
@@rastadewangga1851 Steven Culp
My Dad was supposed to be part of the invasion - the Marines would land, take the beach, and then my Dad’s unit would have landed and began firing tactical nukes at the Russians. Except 1) they thought there were 10-12k Russians, not 40k, and 2) the Russians had tactical nukes of their own. My dad said that if Johnson or Nixon had been the POTUS he and his unit would have been nuked before they ever landed - he, my mom, everybody from Homestead to DC to Offutt to would have died on the first and last day of WW3.
I'm glad to see that someone as insightful as you knows your history and thank God we all didn't die including your dad I'm sure you have life-long memories to share cuz he has to imagine if Nixon would have been in there at that time Kennedy was the right man at the right time God bless
Beware of the Military Industrial Complex.. you are dealing with people of power, the generals-admirals, who have GIANT egos.. and politicians (or family) who are on boards of defence contractors that will obtain those huge contracts...look at this film.. which was a true incident in that Lemay and company wanted to send planes in for recon KNOWING that there was a good chance that they would be shot down to start the fucking thing... these people are fucking SICK
I agree that Johnson was apparently all for airstrikes n invasion.
And that's why our intel fact finding is so high tech now (kh-11)
We did know at the time that some of their missiles were operational. There was an interesting interview in the 90's with a Russian officer who was in Cuba in charge of those weapons. He said that if the USA invaded Cuba, he was authorized to launch immediately without further authorization and he would have done it. Kennedy saved us from WW3.
Terrific writing and acting.
Kennedy had a grasp of history and psychology. Last president who in my opinion was not the main choice of the networks and groups that really run the world. Author Taylor Caldwell captured all that in her opus The Captains and the Kings.
1:16……absolutely chilling to contemplate….
Yet the thing is nowadays compromise is almost evil to a certain percentage of people. It's either one way or the other and that never works in real life.
If the nukes start flying, grab your dvd player, your Mad Max Films and find a place to hide, but don't forget the remote power supply with lots of batteries.
Bruce Greenwood should have received an Oscar or this movie.
Another great book about WW1 is The Sleepwalkers: How Europe Went to War in 1914; which goes in a very similar direction trying to explain the effects which lead to WW1.
And that, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, woulda been all she wrote.
This movie changed me. It is a movie every student of history should watch. Heck, every person should.
Great movie. It really details the enormous burden on Kennedy and it is the best example of presidential leadership today and for the ages. President Kennedy led in an extraordinary way in those 13 days. He was an amazing leader and he proved it under tremendous nuclear threat, and inhalation of the world in 1963. It is the template on how to lead as a world leader.
*annihilation.
It's hard to see in this clip, but there is a slight darkening in the lighting around President Kennedy's face when he says 'and we fire ours'. It's a subtle change, but it highlights the gravity of the situation.
The situation in Ukraine is another example of how states don't think they can back down and get involved in an unstoppable spiral of righteous escalation.
Totally agree with you, instead of using a different approach we heading toward a chaos.
@@Mack-ht4mw actually the West can easily or probably is putting the ball and Putin's Court does he really want to press that button if we push his forces back to the his borders? Does he really want to be the man who is responsible for taking out at least a good chunk of civilization Knowing damn well the West doesn't have any intention on invading his country?
No, it isn't. It's not a death spiral that sparked off from minor tensions. Russia lined up their tanks and invaded for the purpose of annexation. That's not a butterfly effect of reciprocity. That's a warmonger who is warmongering.
@Pragmatic Skeptic It is possible you truly believe that. It's more likely you're being paid in cabbage.
What I'd suggest is, the next time you murder, try blaming somebody else for making you do it and see how that goes for you.
@Pragmatic Skeptic The amount of victim blaming around Ukraine is disgusting, unfortunately for you Putin himself has admitted this is an attempt to recapture old territories, not that *any* of his other claims would justify the invasion of a sovereign nation. (this is after Russia accepted Ukraine's sovereign boarders, and after Russia got Ukraine's nuclear weapons in a deal to never invade Ukraine)
If you want to look at who is to blame for invading Ukraine, try looking at the government invading Ukraine. Even *if* they joined NATO Russia still has the *single largest nuclear armoury on earth,* meaning it will *never* get invaded.
The only response Putin supporters have to this is to point out all the atrocities committed by the states, which literally do nothing to justify Russian atrocities, essentially throwing "two wrongs make right" because that's the only thing that resembles an argument.
Greenwood was fantastic in this
Interesting game, Professor Falkin. The only winning move is not to play.
Thank heavens Kevin Costner was there as the voice of Hollywood moderation.
Well considering without his Cloud that movie which was quite excellent by the way would not have gotten made I think you better be damned grateful he did. That book sat in Hollywood for about 9 years until his production company got a hold of it.
@@rolandmiller5456
*Clout.
I was born on Monday, October 22nd, 1962 in Alexandria Virginia. Glad it wasn't an ever-so-brief exitance.
"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it ... Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars."
-Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS NOT PERFECT IN HIS PERSONAL MARITAL LIFE BUT AS A PRESIDENT I ADMIRE HIM FOR HIS LOVE OF HUMANITY AND PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. ONE OF MY FAVORITE PRESIDENTS IF NOT THE FAVORITE OF ALL TIME..
like anybodys marital life is perfect lol a fucking sane man would love for a chance to fuck any woman he wants as much as kennedy did, he even slept with Marilyn monroe! obviously leftists don't want to talk about that since he was an inspiring Democrat lmao JFK was both a great man and a great president who did his best in office for the Sake of the people. look up Meredith case, trump would have stayed silent during the whole thing assuming he had the balls to be against segregation. JFK was flawed but arnt we all? hate it when people hate on the Kennedys for this shit, whatever they did in marital life had nothing to do with the political frontier, they were just pussy hunters like most of us strive to be. we are all only human. also the dude was going through lots of treatments that affected his sex drive....
My aunt use to have a saying "The best presidents, are the worst people."
there's no need to yell
@Edward Lee Miller readnek!
One must learn from the past
I really like this movie so much history behind it
This video is relevant again
Imagine if JFK wasn't such a serious reader. I wonder what would have happened to us. What if he didn't read the Tuchman book?
david stanley Any chance you could elaborate,Brother? I'm intrigued.
I tell people "We no longer live in an era of great men." I think perhaps JFK was the last one we've had. And he tried to change things.
david stanley I READ THE TUSCHMAN BOOK . EUROPE WAS A POWDER KEG . IF THE ASSASSINATION OF THAT ARCHDUKE DIDN'T TAKE PLACE , SOMETHING ELSE WOULD TRIGGER WW1 .
@@sunnchilde you're goddamn right.He wanted to change the world for a better tommorow but they got rid of him.
You mean like camala isn't? :😀
Yes this was well done but "The Missiles of October" with William Devine as JFK was, IMO, even better.
I agree. That movie gave you all sides, The Americans, The Russians, and the Cubans.
Never heard of that movie but lol at adapting the title from the Guns of August.
Such a great film.
Feels like how things would go with confronting Congress and Corporate America...
Two of the FINEST Men in ALL of recorded American history....Men with character....decency, and honor....Jack and Bobby....Two REALLY great men.
They were smart guys, but they sure as hell were not decent and honorable. JFK was a major sleazebag. Robert was not as bad but covered up some real bs for his brother. I’ll give them credit for Cuba, but I won’t label them decent or honorable.
Humanity changed when we detonated the first atomic bomb. At last, we had unleashed the crucible of war upon ourselves, a thousand times over, a million times over. It was the first time in our entire history that the act of war scared everyone who could possibly start one.
Bruce Greenwood - best JFK ever
Long story short, thank Kennedy for the fact that the human race still exists today & the planet didn’t go back to the stone age or become totally inhibitable…
This was a Great Movie!! This was the 1st. Time I had seen this actor ( whose name escapes me at the moment ) in a movie. I asked my friends at the time if they had seen this movie the night before. I said “ The Guy Who Played Kennedy Was So Good In It”
I apologize to him for not recalling his name.
He was also Great in “ Double Jeopardy “
With Ashley Judd and Morgan Freeman!!
Bruce Greenwood. A great actor, and he did a brilliant performance here playing JFK."Thirteen days" is one of my favorite movies.
The most deadly game of chess anyone has had to play. And the consequences was a NUCLEAR WAR if he made the wrong move. All I can say is (Politics aside) thank GOD the right people where in power at the time.
Where can I get the full movie from?
Brilliant movie
I wish every man and woman in Pentagon watch this film now with the crisis in Ukraine.
Why? There is literally no possibility whatsoever of it becoming anything more than a local issue that wears down both sides. If you think its going to lead to some kind of giant war under literally any circumstances you're delusional
Such a great scene and great job by Bruce Greenwood, this is one of my favorite movies.
It's so incredibly important to have steady, level-headed leadership in times of crisis.
Can you seriously imagine Donald Trump in this situation? Geezus krist.
Trying Biden on for size . Lol, then again - that liver spotted puppet thinks & does whatever his string pullers require , so who knows .
Greenwood was spectacular as JFK. One of the best performances by an actor I've seen.
Would you prefer the Dementia patient in the White House today? 🙄
Great acting, especially being subtle on the Boston accent without trying to over do it, like Costner did in this movie…
remember those times when america elected intelligent presidents
If the nukes start flying, grab your dvd player, your Mad Max Films and find a place to hide, but don't forget the remote power supply with lots of batteries.
Reminded of this again recently
You're in a tough spot Mr. President
Great film!
What's the watch JFK (Bruce Greenwood) wears in this movie?
We literally have no idea just how bloody close we came. Kennedy was prepared after his televised speech, to evacuate Washington D.C. Imagine how that would have played out in Moscow! Literally, one bad decision and none of us would be here writing this.
he tempered a good mix of hawkish and dovish strategies into his well-tempered approach, a naval blockade, in contrast to the hawk's strategy of full-scale invasion and the dove's strategy of non-action and diplomatic talks.
EbberDeeMills *CIA
It is highly doubtful that Kennedy read the Guns of August as the Cuban Missile Crisis was in October of 1962 and the Guns of August had just gone to print in late 1962 so there is little chance a copy was available for him to read…while a great book this is a literary invention
"The Guns Of August" was published during the week.of January 28, 1962 - February 3, 1962, about nine months before the Cuban Missile Crisis arose. President Kennedy had had ample time to have read the book beforehand.
Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara had given President Kennedy a copy of the book.
@@vivianpowell1732 No doubt you are right. It would seem that something so easily checked and a pivotal point in the movie, would be naively done in error Not this movie.
This is kind of a miss read. The takeaway from The Guns of August isn’t that technology changed which caused miss-calculations. The book has a detailed analysis about how the Kaiser was basically set up by his own military establishment into starting WW1. On the eve of war with Russia the Kaiser wanted to cancel the Western invasion plan entirely, to not go to war with Brittain and France (well at least Brittain could have staid out) by avoiding invading Belgium.
The Kaiser, the titular head of the German monarchy was told by Moltke that that it was impossible to not go to war in the West because the troops were already on railroads heading West. Because the timetables were already worked out. This was days before the actual shooting war started.
That’s the less of the book: Don’t trust the Military high command.
Great Video! Love it!
What is scary is that the scenario is accurate.
Had the US Navy really fired on a Soviet ship, the escalation would have been most likely just that.
Underrated film.
Kennedy failed to learn the most important lesson from the "Guns of August" about how WWI began. That lesson: Don't ride in a Covertible!
Kennedy refuses to listen to his commanders...and as a result, saves the world.
So Johnson decides to apply the same lesson in Vietnam...
Fubar AlAkbar I think you’re over looking the significance of this scene. It’s not that Kennedy wasn’t listening to his military advisors. It was that he was in fact listening. And, he realized that what he was listening to from them was an primitive way of addressing the issue at hand. Kennedy realized that the world was changing and that you couldn’t just apply knee jerk solutions that were based upon outdated solutions/strategies.
@@brandondaniels9471 agreed when nuclear weapons are brought in...
Johnson listened to his advisors, that was the problem.
@@IAssassinII ... who were left over from the Kennedy administration.
After JFK, the downfall of 🇺🇸 has began... R.I.P Mr. President
And here we are again…
I was looking up the dates. Guns of August was published the same year as this event, but Kennedy says he read it “last summer” in the film. What’s true?
Dobbs, Michael (2008). One Minute to Midnight. pp. 226-227. "The President was so impressed by the book that he often quoted from it, and insisted his aides read it. He wanted 'every officer in the Army' to read it as well. The secretary of the Army sent copies to every U.S. military base in the world."
At the time of the cuban missile crisis, the Soviet Union only had maybe a dozen or so ICBMs and they weren't very good ICBMs. We thought they had a lot more because we had a lot more. But it is part of the reason the soviets wanted missiles in cuba, because they had intermediate range missiles that could then actually hit the US.
Also, the USA had pujt missils in Turkey, that'sd why the Soviets decided to put missils in Cuba.
@@22espec Those Jupiter missiles were obsolescent, Kennedy had it in mind since his inauguration to remove them, they were not part of a reciprocal obligation in the deal over the crisis and was subject to NATO consultation in any case, and in the end the role of those missiles in Turkey and Italy was taken up by one of our Polaris submarines. Also, those missiles were a minor consideration in the Soviet decision to put missiles in Cuba. The main drivers of that policy decision were to secure Cuba from a U.S. invasion, shore up the overall Soviet position in Latin America, and to act as a stopgap until newer and more accurate ICBMs could be brought online which would not happen before 1965 at the earliest. Second to that was a means to pressure the U.S. over West Berlin. The Jupiter missiles may have inspired Khrushchev's plan but more important considerations were front and centre. It was a typical big Khrushchev gamble to try to kill three birds with one stone and he was looking for much larger concessions from Kennedy than just Cuba and the Jupiters.
JFK.. wisdom… 😢
When movies like this were on as a kid I'd be bored as shit to watch it. The lunch scene in Jurassic Park. I appreciate the other side of war films when it shows literally the gears of war turning. The conversations and intricacies that lead to conflict. Political or corporate intrigue (Big Short, Margin Call) makes for good watching.
I didn't know it was a movie title... Thought it was going to be actual footage of his last 13 days when i clicked...
And today marks the day this may actually happen....Good luck everyone
They fire their missiles, then America fires theirs. Two countries... two people that could literally decide the fate of all life on earth.
@@tompatrick9116 Really sucks it comes down to "one" person really. Putin is a danger to the world.
No it doesn't
brilliant film.
Pretty Cool
read about a fellow called Vasily Arkhipov , he saved the world that day
I can't find this movie on any streaming services (at least not in Australia) and it's driving me nuts. Such a great film.
Somebody uploaded tbe whole movie here on RUclips.
Worth firing up a double-bill with this film and "Path To War"
jfk issued orders to McNamara that copies of tuchmans' book be sent to the captains aboard every ship on task to enforce the blockade,,,,,, kennedy quoted the last couple sentences of the book, ' sic reporter asked a french diplomat how it all started, the guy sighed,,,,,'then,,'ahh if only we knew'
If Kennedy ever really did say something close to the line that starts at 0:53 and goes to the end of the video then he was so far ahead of the curve regarding world peace that no one around him could see what he was looking at. He should have gone on national TV and said that line. Then maybe more people would have understood what he was trying to do.
He did read the minutes.
@@johnbettano6026 There are no minutes for confidential meetings
Got to love Dr. Strangelove ( How I Learned to Love The Bomb) 🤔 Danger of that in Ukraine is Escalating ?
What happens now repeats what happens then or?
Anyone thinking about this today?
We need JFK now.... February 24 2022
john f kennedy had back pain alot
Anybody here after the Russian invasion of Ukraine?
Really hope no Russians get too far west and overfly a NATO country, or vice-versa.
And The MADNESS CONTINUES?...
Scary time
All of this has to be seen in the context of the June 1961 Vienna summit between jfk and khruschev
The failed bay of pigs invasion
The proxy war in Laos and the Berlin wall
The summit did not go well
Khruschev formed the opinion that
Jfk was inexperienced and weak
This led to the cuban missile crisis
A very dangerous domino effect
If the nukes start flying, grab your dvd player, your Mad Max Films and find a place to hide, but don't forget the remote power supply with lots of batteries.
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!