Most DANGEROUS Mexican Cartels! | Joe Rogan & Maria Van Zeller
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- Опубликовано: 17 фев 2024
- Joe Rogan And Maria Van Zeller talk about Mexican cartels.
Clip Taken from: #2093 Maria Van Zeller
Mariana van Zeller is a Portuguese journalist and correspondent for National Geographic Channel. She was the chief correspondent for Fusion, and is a former correspondent for the Vanguard documentary series on the former Current TV. She's a recipient of the Peabody Award.
#joerogan #jre #mexico #crime 
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As a former Corrections Officer, I would like to add. Talking w/inmates they actually tell me that they would commit other crimes to go back to prison so they wouldn't be homeless in the winter.
So the problem has always been capitalism and poverty, many people in the cartel only join because it’s the easiest way to make money and they have no choice
I hear you, my dad is from Mexico City, However, I don’t know about any crimes. He’s always worked hard. My grandfather always went to Chicago but when my dad came to California, he’s always worked hard at the chicken Ranch bought his first house in 1974.
@@eddeddeeddee6491id say just poverty. with or without capitalism there would still be a drug trade. Maybe just not as big
As a former addict who turned his life around, I concur with this statement. 5 years sober now, thank you Jesus
Joe heard cocaine and all of a sudden had a case of the sniffles.😂
And bubble guts
don't know what's worse, the fact he got the sniffles, or the fact we noticed it lol
Well he definitely brags about never doing coke so idk
Ya he lies soo hard about doing blow 😂
@@dollabill167 and when people come on there talking bout not smoking it, no damn well they lying 🤥
She is a baller. Her reporting is nothing short of stellar
The network she works for sucks but she's great
Yeah they say she slept with most of the members
This is not reporting. This is sensationalist propaganda.
A bit inaccurate also
She’s a moron . Don’t know anything.
Anyone else see Joe's eyes when she said they do a lot of cochise lol 😂😂😂
Lol i peeped that too 😂😂😂😂. Joe has never had that look about bears b4
Brooo lmao 😂😂😂 it’s so subtle yet it’s so loud
Cochise? Is that what they're calling it nowadays?
@@seeharvesterbecause youtube ghosts the comments
@@eduardoescobar1906
No kidding. They threaten to ban me every other day. Free speech is verboten.
If you legalize all drugs, you get Portland, Oregon. And their staggering death rate as a result
The staggering death rate is from China and Mexican cartels flooding our country with fentanyl
Exactly
And yet drugs are available everywhere. You can get coke in prison. The issue with Portland is that it's got a concentrated population of drug users. If drugs were legal nation wide, we'd see the sort of dilution that already exists. That's not without its own problems, but two things are irrefutable: Drugs exist and they are in demand. We know that prohibition doesn't work, it just causes violence and black markets. So I'd say the lesser of two evils is to let pharmaceutical companies pump out safe(r) products.
Small amounts of illicit drugs have been decriminalized in Portland only since 2021. Portland has been a shit hole way before then. So you’re comment literally makes zero sense
I moved here last year,been here six months and it’s crazy here. It’s like the walking dead
“Jamie … pull up coccaine bear “
Take it from somebody that lives in a state where drugs have been decriminalized. It is the worst thing you could do. Highly do not recommend it unless you want to see homeless camps everywhere and lots of people that look like zombies
The homeless camps and zombies were there before the decriminalization.
You mean leftist ideology failed in action? Darn.
@@barryallen871 and now they're overflowing #Derp
There's really no good solutions for drugs. I mean the drug war has been going on for 60 years and absolutely nothing has been accomplished. There's more drug users and drugs circulating right now than ever before. At the same time just letting everyone do drugs freely is also a recipe for disaster. What's the solution? Don't really know.
I live in a state where drug possession is a crime and we have homeless camps everywhere with zombie people as well. So, it has nothing to do with the decriminalization of drugs...
Joe Rogan..."Coked up sicarios in Mexico" then follows that statement with a sniff of the nose lol.
Joe, you can’t save someone that doesn’t want saved. Remember that.
thats complete bs statement for this problem majority of people
Joe is a rightwing moron who blames the fact that because drugs are illiegal, as the reason for so-much drug related violence and Maria quick rightly responds with "and we consume" the drugs.
why is soo difficult for people to understand that the reason murderous cartels have soooo much money and therefore, are soooo powerful is simply because we in the US have a ferocious appetite and constantly demand/consume the illegal drugs.... no demand = no money/no power/no violence
@@davidchandler6885theres a reason why narco corridos are the most popular genre of music in México, they glorify that culture
@@SCARx497Same problem in many of the inner cities right here in the US.
@@SCARx497mankind is a sickness
Joe started geeking out 😅like when cocaine was announced 😂😂in a N/A meeting 😂😂
Conor and Jones’s dealer 🤣
Joe's allergies starts acting up at the mention on powder 🤧
Pure Powder😬😅
Why don't you talk about the American cartels?
@@JesusMartinez-wm4dklike which? The main American cartels are the Mexican cartels
flashbacks
@@jonasmarshall8086 America
Joe 'it's alllllllllllmost like someone is engineering the destruction of our country' Rogan
Saying the quiet part out loud
I heard cocaine and I had a case of the sniffles lol
So good!!! Great convo🎤🎩 both of ya.
Thanks
Smiles4miles
She is such a brave and intelligent woman. I don’t know if she has won an award for for her journalism yet , but she should! Please give her one !
Joe’s 👃 got runny all of sudden 😅 😂
BROUGHT TO YOU BY PHIZER
*Pfizer 😂
Joe nose went to running when she said cocaine 😂😂
If the US would legalize all drugs, the entire country would be like Seattle & Portland.
One of the Best Journalists and Best ever Lady Journalist
I personally find it sad to be taught that in certain parts of North America cocaine smuggling is the number one career prospect for the majority of young men seeking a way out of poverty. There should be socio-economic reforms and education as well as legitimate jobs targeting these communities. With the nearshoring boom there shouldn't be any excuses.
Lmao that will never work
@@gelatoman7066 according to Bukele it works.
@@gelatoman7066 which companies in the United States would go bankrupt if the drug addicts quit abusing drugs?
Violent crimes don’t get let back out on the streets, Joe!! You’re wrong
Sounds like Maria partied with them the same way she parties at spring break
Let the lady live man
@@400blokka go save her🙄
@@400blokkahe’s just a simp who hates women who actually get laid more than once a year lmao
@@yumjoystyle2you’re the kinda guy who would hit a girl and then call the guy who defends her a white knight lmao bum gahahaha
@@yumjoystyle2 sounds like you would save a hoe since you worried bout what they be doin 🤣
When Rohan said omg after pure his nose smiffed
When they were doing blow in the bunker I thought Joey Diaz was gonna show up.😮
One of the best shows ever.
everyone wants to point at Portugal when it comes to legalizing drugs but what they don't say is that addicts were FORCED into rehab. Look at Portland
Some dude in the comments section mentioned Portugal lol
Exsctly Portland is the first place that came to mind
Living in a country and wandering the streets in a rule abiding civilization does not grant you to Rome free in the manner of which you choose as we see by laws (police etc). We have written rules about "breaking the law" if you will. It isn't unreasonable to say that if you want to live in a city controlled by a government and participate in the bylaws that it has prescribed for its' citizens then you may be subject to abiding by certain rules.
If a government says that in order to walk the streets you must submit to rehab the person can say they don't agree with government and leave. I don't think it is unreasonable. I say this as an addict that if I wasn't forced to go to rehab to keep my job, I would never have gotten the help I needed to get into a 12 step program and long term recovery. Addiction is a bad disease and sometimes being in a facility, sobering up for a few months and learning about your disease and how to treat it when you don't have the stresses of using and being homeless can be a good thing.
@@drhassan6892 seem like you're missing his point and just wanna tell your story lol
Drugs are not legal in portugal idk what they yapping about, i live here btw
I live in Sinaloa. What this woman described is not part of my life or the lives of the majority of the people here. The cartel stays to themselves for the most part and we go about our lives.
de hecho mantiene el control en la sierra donde no hay ni delagaciones ni nada de gobierno. pero la raza que no conoce para la sierra nomas habla por hablar. saludoos hasta piaxtla de abajo sinaloa estacion dimas.
- She never implied that anyone in Mexico other than the cartel lives like this. She’s just talking about her experience while covering cartel life.
People will still take away the point that mexico is like this. Look at the comments here and in any other video where Mexico is mentioned. The fear is real in people that know nothing about Mexico and that is the media creating that.@@67NewEngland
I mean it makes sense. Going loud on civilians is bad for business. It gains them nothing compared to what they can accomplish if they quietly go about their business.
Yes. remember that case in Ciudad Juarez, I think it was, where 4 civilians from the US were shot up in their van? The cartel delivered the responsible parties, or who were made to take the blame, to the authorities. The cartel was as pissed about that then the public was. It disrupts their business.@@nutbastard
I’ve ridden my motorcycle down there many times and it’s surreal but as a tourist you have a special immunity card and are pretty well taken care of. Have a surgeon buddy who’s operated on many of them who’ve been shot. My moto wouldn’t start and my friends went on but one had a fall and called a medevac helo and yeah, they didn’t care for that. Another friend was kidnapped and terrorized quite a bit until they realized he wasn’t another cartel member. Another … well got too many to tell here.
Joe is like can you get me a hook ..
Portugal is brought up a lot in conversations about my state-Oregon's-partial Portugal approach to drugs. It all went pear shaped for a number of reasons and is about to be pulled back. But part of it is that a country can do things that an individual state in the USA cannot do. Until we're no longer Disneyland for Blues and G, it's blue tarps and more blue tarps.
Carrie Mulligan is such a great performer.
Joe you are so on spot.👊👍
Viva México!!!! Es una vergüenza el narcotráfico!
The prisoners are being tested with the chips..once data proves success then all criminals will be fitted with the chips
Thats sounds bout right ❤❤❤
Drugs are bad, it don't matter who sells it or anything, drugs are bad.
Drugs are awesome.people are bad
@@brandonoakley8962 drugs and bad ppI are bad, like some even make excuses for drugs, wait a minute 🤔
Mmmmmmk
I dunno, but romanticizing the cartels and what they do doesn't seem like such a good idea to me. Especially in the same conversation where the question is asked about the drug problem, "What's the solution?"
The drug problem isn't caused by the cartels, but by criminalization, and the national buraeucracies on both sides of the border which manage the drug trade from grower-to-distriutor-to-user.
Nobody is romanticizing, you are just projecting.
@@barryallen871 you seem like you are offended by his comment, you're just projecting.
@assnark7115. Oh, right. Let’s legalize drugs and watch how many Nobel Laureates we produce. Obviously a drug user.
@@CSUnger they aIways wanna defend their addictions lol
It will become completely chaotic if drugs are legalized. Unfortunately there has to be laws keeping people in check. There will always be people that will abuse the system.
I’m pretty sure they were doing Coke with the hit men all day too.
Joe says he never done coke but no body ever admits to do cocaine
I have no problem with admitting that I used to do a lot of cocaine. What’s so hard about that? 🤷♂️
The answer isn’t legalizing all drugs, that I know for sure
Ok why ?
And what is the answer ?
Money won't just stop drug addiction
👏 real Journalist! 🎉
bro was suffering from altitude sickness with the long hike she explained. the cocaine would have fixed him right up!
I don't believe that the decriminalization of hard drugs to ensure a clean supply is necessarily going to create more addicts. Decriminalization doesn't equate to commercialization or, at least, it doesn't have to. Addicts/users are registered, like methadone users now, their use is observed and recorded onsite and so on.
If I had access to ketamine I'd likely be able to stop destroying my body with alcohol. Liver is at 40% and trust that I'll be drinking tonight.
@@nutbastard I was addicted to opiates and alcohol. I couldn't stop myself. Fortunately, 14 years ago I became so sick that my body couldn't... wouldn't take it anymore. I consider myself lucky now. I know where you're at and hope you get lucky too.
There is a country where all drugs are legal "can't remember which" but for the hard drugs the people can only get them in a hospital. And they are always asked if they want to quit prior to getting their "dose"
So tired of Americas obsession with Mexican cartels. Can we start talking about our wicked mass shooting epidemic? I don’t see ANYONE talking about it! I see the news talk about a mass shooting for 3 days, then we move on.
Absolutely!
Way more people die everyday from drug overdoses than these so called mass shootings…you must be a democrat! Drugs are ok but no guns!!!
Y'all ever seen the funky town video?
I am portuguese living in Portugal, and you are saying that we... What?😂
What is the situation with drugs in Portugal? I would much rather hear from an actual citizen.
@@As_A________Commenter drugs are still ilegal, but it's not considered a crime. Meaning you still have trouble with the cops if they caught you consuming drugs (because it's still ilegal) but you're not going to the trial as a criminal.
the important thing legalizing it does is allows people to safely get pure uncut cocaine.
Bro… we all know a guy who insists to take a bump ski 😂😂😂
Oregon is a good example of what happens when you legalize drugs like cocaine and meth.
I live in China were they have a hard stance on drugs. In 4.5 years of living here, I have only seen 2 people I have suspected or known to be a drug addict. The one person I knew for sure had a problem devloped the addiction while living in America.
I thought this was about cartels not cocaine.....
Dubai doesn't have a problem with drugs, gee I wonder why!
Because they go abroad to do it.
They prefer kaka
LA basically is GTA in real life
Imagine a Joey Diaz - Cartel story. That would explode the internet. You know what Joe Rogan, ...
Operation Fast and Furious was a success.
Joe has been reading Ayn Rand.
I want more information on people being let of jail in California
I live in oregon. The state "decriminilized" all drugs just a few years ago. Anyone see portland lately??? City and state are ruined
But how about Portugal....say all the people that have never been to Portugal.
@@timwilliam9855 lol exactly
Truely a sad state
I love Oregon, the first time I went to Portland it was a very clean city, in recent years it has become increasingly dirtier, like LA or San fransico and it is not only the Pear District, it is also Salem, Grampass, I also see more Latin gangs
@@maxlara8808 wonderful democratic diversity
Maria is my HERO!
I love her voice
Looks like a case of what happens when they take away the treat.
Therefore, what to do to diminish that retaliation. Weather it's discipline to avoid the urges or change in neurological connections to detour to a different rewarded system that works for the entire society who sees as compared to the consumer itself
This is bizarre that if it was made legal everyone would be abusing or using it is stupid. Morphine is pretty much legal as a matter of fact every drug is damn near legal there's always a doctor willing to kick down for some money. Alcohol is legal yet a majority of people still are not alcoholics because people have personal responsibility. This idea that we should absolve people from personal responsibility is ridiculous at the price of much more lives. The only way legalizing it would work is if you took the money and used it to rehabilitate or offer incentives for users to stop. This would also mean us taking responsibility for corruption in the government, so they don't steal all that money like they do the lottery money that was supposed to go to teachers and schools.
The United States has a high probability of being directly involved in the illicit economy in México. The country has blocked every attempt to intervene or to work out reforms in the Mexican political system, or to equip the Mexican military to deal with the bandits. All it does is selectively prosecute those smugglers who don't walk the biparty line. O have no evidence so this is only a guess, but it seems that in this relationship the Mexicans are the supplier ms and the United States is the customer.
@@GARRY3754 I'm not sure about this specific group, but many people who have later had a reputation have been in Fort Moore.
@@GARRY3754 but my point is that were this group not there another group would, because it looks obvious who's doing the procurement. What they need the merchandise for is another question in which I don't have an answer to.
Joe is a rightwing moron who blames the fact that because drugs are illiegal, as the reason for so-much drug related violence... why is soo difficult for people to understand that the reason murderous cartels have soooo much money and therefore, are soooo powerful is simply because we in the US have a ferocious appetite and constantly demand/consume the illegal drugs.... no demand = no money/no power/no violence
@@GARRY3754They sure did!
Joes eyes lit up when he heard cocaine
I can NOT STOP LAUGHING at the guy that keeps offering the sick guy coke 😂 i know a few of them guys 🎉
not every violent offence is as black and white as how Joe is speaking, there's a lot of self defense cases
If drugs were legal people would consume them at the same rate. It's not like people don't know what it is. That's the propaganda that's put out. People that do drugs can buy as much as they want already. Plus, regulations as in not driving while doing drugs or at work will still apply.
Jon Jones has enter the comments lol
Joe’s face when he said pure cocaine jaja
Respect to maria she's one of the best news or Journalist in this world 💯
Joe with the “that’s all that happens when you make drugs illegal.” Short sighted.
Lot's of people would die but at the end it would stabilize just like it did after alcohol got legalized.
The solution would be to educate Americans to reduce the excessive consumption of drugs, without demand there is no supply, there is no business, it would also help if Americans stop selling weapons to the cartels
Trying to rehab people is a waste of time and money
Just like cancer or other health issues... there is no profit in curing or solving problems of that magnitude
This is a very interesting and important podcast you nailed it Joe that's why they are lowering education funds in minority communities
her name is: Mariana Van zeller...if you gonna copy content at least give the person the real name, this video was suggested to me by youtube and i guess its because ive been wathing the real: Joe rogan experience to much ( :
Reform should be a case to case basis with a low interference guidance counselor you cant put light crimes around hard crimes. All criminals arent the same. Your dui shouldnt cut you from life. Traffic ordinance and racial prosecution is a system within itself that shows fhe justice system needs heavy reform. We had cops before cars.
Joes talking out of his ass. California is making "violent criminals" eligible for release that commited their offense before the age of 25 & have served at least 20 yrs of their original sentence
Jow keeps saying the quite things outloud lol
Coked up sacario sounds like a crazy movie 🤣😂🤣
The solution is family. The American way is that once an teenager turns 18 they are supposed to leave their house and find their own way.
2:04 She had a bubble in her throat
What would have happened if cigarettes take the place of illegal weed like the old days. Any insight?
Relegating drugs, is probaply better. Then to completely legalizing it.
Well, if you legalize it. You have Portland Oregon & nobody wants that
If they made cocaine legal id be Fed. I would 100% be blowing most of my paychecks
Portugal's legalize drug has caused a disaster.
Lost angles? Look at 'kali forn ia'
Damn Joe talk your shit
The solution is actually pretty simple. It’s called 100% accountability. Rather then having a health care system that’s expensive and so restrictive. Make it so easily accessible that jobs, banks, and every social structure required a physical exam also requiring drug tests to pretty much allow or approve any social gain in life based on both health and restrain from these substances to acquire any advantages in life to succeed. While also decriminalizing drugs so that people know it’s their 100% responsibility if they want to fail in life for Abusing these substances then refraining from over using them. As it stands the government has always benefited from controlling the crime rate the use and handling of these substances. Why not finally give it over to the hands that are the reason this issue even exists. By doing that you can more effectively control the use or abuse of it. Because no matter what drugs are still being used but if you set standards while not restricting it then people will have the freedom of choice on if they want to waste their life away. On a drug or seek help or even 100% self restraining from these substances in the first place. Look at the drugs that have spawned from even restricting something as less damaging as alcohol and then weed. Evolved into cocían, evolved into meth, heroine, fentanyl. And the list will go on. Because it’s all restricted and some people get away with the use of them while others don’t. Its never been that difficult of a solution its always been about what is more convenient to certain branches of power.
You can tell Maria is super woke.
Facts
People who bring politics into everything bore the living 💩 out of me
@@ghernandez2263 Well it’s unfortunate, but we are not discussing you right now.
@@skipfluck4299 I speak for the majority of people who don’t fall for your Democrat/Republicans cults
@@ghernandez2263 Can you show me some kind of proof, that people elected you to speak for them?
If the government legalized all drugs they have to stop making jails
If I wanted to solve the "Inner City" problem, and I was a multi-billionaire, I would pay engineers to design self-sufficient/sustaining farming Arcologies. Anyone who wanted to work and live in an Arcology would be tested for aptitude, and trained (possibly along with therapy, social living skills training, basic HS education, etc.) Security entrances, hardened outer wall, drug testing, drug sniffing dogs, high-end schooling for children, with the primary jobs/careers being agriculture. Voila ! Tax paying citizens who feed themselves and, if production is good, sell high-quality food to nearby grocery stores.
SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNISM TO ME
They'll all move...lol
shurrup Pol Pot.
Fred did the cocaine hahaha
This does not hit right for some reason … I don’t know