How Ghostbusters Became Ghostbusters
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
- The screenplay for Ghostbusters is actually pretty underwhelming if you only focus on the details. But if you zoom out and look at the macro-scale of writing - coming up with a premise and figuring out how to execute it - Ghostbusters stands as a great example of the importance of execution. It’s not just what your story is about, it’s how you tell it.
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This reminds me of a Roger Ebert quote: "It's not what a movie is about, it's how it is about it."
That's a good quote :)
I miss S&E!
I miss Roger. Even when I didn't agree with his views he was such an educated and interesting man.
I wish the RUclips community knew more about channels like these.
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Clench your buttcheex really tight click your heels together 3 times and with upon a star after saying 57 hail Mary's in a 2pac voice.
I think another technique the film uses to remain 'grounded in reality' is through the establishment of skeptical supporting characters - they act as a 'voice of reason' then as they too come around to the idea of the supernatural it doesn't seem so far fetched for the audience because they were set up to be 'logical'..... if that makes sense....
touché
It makes sense. No need to qualify your intelligence. And I don't mean that as a dis.
That's an awesome point... adding this to my notes I have from the video!
There is one thing I learned
Execution always trumps premise...
you may have a ridiculous premise, and execute very well and have a good movie...
or you can have a perfect premise, and execute poorly and have a bad movie...
Raimar Lunardi very true. star wars prequels and movies like the Island had great premises, but suffered in execution
Sausage Party is the perfect example of ridiculous premise executed perfectly.
Raimar Lunardi I agree, just like anime, the premise can be as crazy and outlandish as can be, but can make me cry quicker than many American live action shows because of its execution.
Death Note is an example of a great premise being executed well and poorly depending on which version you watch.
Raimar Lunardi Like Ghostbuster's executed perfectly, and much later badly.
Very interesting!
WYDDDT-example from Back to the Future: You can never meet yourself when you travel through time, or a terrible time paradox may destroy the Universe. And of course in BTTF2 - Jennie sees herself.
It's true! That's a good one.
"What if the four people were women?! These are all crazy alternatives, I know." the dis is real!
Shots fired loll
deadvodka did anyone ever watch the new ghost busters? it was garbage
Braeden Miller it's only garbage if you went in believing it was garbage. it's actually pretty funny and rather great.
It's not real. It's misogynist bullshit passing itself off as cleverness. Aside from that, still a great video.
GeorgieClarissa you must have very low standard for comedy then.
I think what makes Ghostbusters work the best is that it's literally just a story about three friends (and the guy that decided to answer the wanted ad) starting a business together and the challenges they face. It just so happens that that business is ghost hunting.
I've just watched all your videos in one sitting. Just wow.
love what you're doing michael! as a young screenwriter i love delving deeper into script like this! thanks a bunch for helping!
+TheDukeWin Thank you!
More channels like yours is what youtube needs :D
Thank you! :)
there're actually quite plenty of then tho. It just some of them delivered it either through their reviews or just discussing animation techniques that can also be used in films. There are only fews that i could think of (and mostly anime tho, so sorry):
- FramebyFrame (from FilmTheorist)
- Digibro (this one is anime)
- RCAnime (this one talk about film making aspects in anime)
- thCanipaEffects (this is like RCAnime but mostly talks more about the animators and the anime studio itself)
+harits andhika thank you, i'll check them out ;)
I'd recommend Every Frame a Painting, Channel Criswell, Now You See It, and kaptainkristian. All are similar in style and fantastic.
harits andhika Ah, digibro. I enjoy him, because it is his opinion on media, but his opinion has reasons and structure, not wild obsession.
"Hi. I'm Tony, and this is 'Every Frame A Painting.'"
But this is from from the script perspective, not editing.
But the intro is even in the same tonality AND syllables, can't be unseen. It actually bugs me a lot because the videos are great but the intro gives a sort of cheap aura to the whole thing :/
+Sebastián Andrés Soto Salas I agree it has the same tone, but it's more focused on the script, like you said. I see them as siblings, not rivals.
They should combine to create the ultimate video essays
Every Frama A Painting hasn't uploaded a video for months so I think that channel is done
Am I the only who appreciates how Michael edits “Lessons into the Screenplay” at the end of his videos and still looks like it could’ve been in the movie?
Great video man, I think you'd do a great job of exploring 'Groundhog Day', plus what a screenplay!
Thanks Darren! Great recommendation. I recently re-watched it, so good!
Y SEE FILMS
Oh! That would be great.
When I took an introductory creative writing class, for the classes on screenplay the teacher used GROUNDHOG DAY as his tent pole example film for breaking down how great screenplays work.
I love your channel so much. I am not a script writer, but I do love to write and I feel that your videos help me explain to others basic concepts that are so important in writing.
I wish the Ghostbusters remake was 'grounded in reality' and not grounded in a cartoon comedy.
YaYa Man I wish someone could talk about Ghostbusters without someone else bitching about the remake
shane ford Welcome to the wonderful world called 'internet'.
Shane, you can thank Feig for that. He made a bad movie that will never go away, so people WILL discuss it. Get over it.
YaYa Man or in a giant unfunny SNL skit
Damn right, I'm getting fed up by it. Can't we all just get along?
I don't even like movies and you're making me care.
You....you monster!
**Sound that a monster makes!!**
Your videos are amazing! I'm so glad your channel exists, I'm sure you'll become more and more popular as time goes by, definitely quality content. Keep up the great work and lots of love! :)
I just noticed the bag of stay Puff marshmallow‘s and Danas counter next to the eggs for the first time 😂
What an ingenious a little touch
Hey! I watched all your videos in one sitting. Your lessons are entertaining, educational, inspiring and your love for the craft really transpires. Thank you!
And please, do more. :)
Damn this turned out well. Premise and designing principle are fascinating. I always felt present day NY was a character in that film, and I the choice to ground the movie in our related (and how they did it) made it relatable. Great analysis, thanks!
Recently discovered your channel. Your videos are extremely well put together and very informative. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! I like your username.
ever read the screenplay from edge of tomorrow? now there is a script that looks like it was written by an 8 year old hyperactive child. yet the film was brilliant.
I haven't! That might be interesting.
Fun fact, The Edge Of Tomorrow was heavily inspired by the manga All You Need Is Kill.
Dinoslay fun fact, the manga All You Need is Kill was based on the light novel All You Need is Kill.
Fun fact: Edge of Tomorrow is a complete whitewash.
With The BFG coming out I think a really interesting video would be how another kid-friendly Spielberg movie, ET, found a way to make a grotesque alien seem lovable and charismatic enough to make children around the world fall in love with it
I hated E.T. as a kid because it scared the hell out of me. But I should probably revisit it now that I'm a little bit less afraid of aliens. Good suggestion!
quick send this to paul feig! oop, too late
just found your channel and I love every video so far, can't wait for more
Awesome, thanks! More on the way...
I just discovered the channel and I'm going through older videos but this is impressive.You earned a sub and just wanna say well done, sir! Keep up the good work!
+RagnarTheRed Thank you! Will do :)
Just found your channel, your analysis of this movie & the others are spot on. Keep up the good work. Looking forward to view more videos
+Jason Jacinto Thanks Jason!
Great analysis of Ghostbusters' screenplay and execution. I really love this film.
I love this channel. We who love films tend to throw all the credit at the director who definitely does deserve it in the end and the actors who make the story come to life but the real heroes behind a film are the writers. I think a great screenplay is the best visual effect because with a great or even good screenplay you can do so much as a director. With that being said I think some of the best scripts from this past year were from Indie films and some I would love seeing analyzed are:
1.The End of the Tour
2. Clouds of Sils Maria
3. Me and Earl and The Dying Girl
4. Tangerine.
Those are just some of the indies that I liked. They have to work script wise because they dont have the luxury of huge budgets and superstars like Leo or Bale or Cruise. Anyway, those are a few to think about if you like that idea of course haha. Keep doing what you do with the channel its great.
Thanks Elijah! I really enjoyed The End of the Tour, and I agree the script for that was quite good. I haven't seen the others, but I will add them to the list that I draw from for future videos. Glad you're enjoying the channel! :)
Videos on this channel seem to fly by whenever I watch them. Thanks man great stuff;.
I discovered this channel today, and it is blowing my mind. Great attention to detail, good references, and tongue-in-cheek humor, what else could one ask for? Subscribed and will check out Patreon.
Awesome! Thanks Chris!
Great video as always! Really looking forward to the reboot/remake/sequel video you mentioned!
Thanks! It's in my queue of videos I'm working on :P
I really love your videos, and how you make them so serious'ly good with a lo't of knowlegde in them, keeping me wanting more.
Thanks!
Thanks for your videos! As a game design student here in germany i also try to implement important rules of filmmaking in my projects. Your channel is awesome for learning that stuff and as a source of inspiration!
Thanks Kevin! And thanks for your support on Patreon ;) That seems like a really smart idea - one of the things I love about video games is their storytelling ability, so it's great that you're factoring that in so early.
A year later or more, this channel is amazing man. Love the work, can't afford the patreon but keep up the good work. Wish i had this kind of passion for film as you do. (bow)
Really nice! I'm already waiting for your next video!
Thanks! Already working on it...
This is my favorite one so far, nice work again Michael!
Thanks Bryan ;)
love these videos, please keep up the great work!!
Thanks!
One of my favorite movies. Thanks for doing these videos. I've been really learning a lot about how movies are made and what deliberate choices are made by the writers to make the movies.
Awesome, I'm glad you're getting something out of them :) Thanks for watching!
Great videos man. You just became one of my favorite channels. Would love you see you tackle the Coens or Tarantino is any of their work inspires you
Thanks Griffin! I will definitely do a movie by them at some point.
Wow, man, you're doing an awesome job. I promise to pitch in on Patreon by this month or the next at the latest. Especially if it means more footage!
+One Dodgy Dude Thanks! That's very generous of you. I'm trying to make sure there is some kind of bonus content for each video.
Absolutely amazing channel. So glad I found you.
I'm really enjoying your videos, and it's great to watch your craft improve with each new release. One suggestion I would make regards pacing, narration, and editing. I feel like a lot of the narration occurs at the same pace, and isn't tightly linked to what's on screen at any given time. I think you could have a greater impact by using the interplay of what you're saying and what you're showing to drive a point home or get a luagh.
Anyway, I'm excited to see what you come up with next. Your first few videos have been great, and you're finding your voice and your style more and more with each one.
Thanks for the feedback spergasaurus!
Great channel, thank you for the fascinating content, looking forward to the future videos, best of luck to you!
Thanks!
What's funny is that the original screenplay makes the last scene of the movie make more sense, because Egon said that you'd be trapped forever in another dimension... and they were crossing their streams into another dimension.
But what about the Twinkie?
You just earned yourself a new sub! Keep up the great work!
This video was really helpful, I'm reading Truby's book now and I was having trouble distinguishing between premise and design principle.
Excellent!
Awesome analysis, Mike!
Very good work, keep up the good work. Last video I mentioned PTA, another I'd be interested in is your take on the Cohen brothers. Just a thought.
Thank you! And yes, I need to do the Coen brothers at some point. Just need to figure out which movie.
Great video, great analysis. Subscribed!
Thanks!
Its the perfect combo of horror and comedy.. the most hard of combinations.
Great video dude. I really enjoyed it! Keep it up!
Thanks!
hey Micheal, I just love your channel very much. I would love it, if you put a video on PRESTIGE Screenplay.
Really dig your channel, man. Great stuff.
Thanks Stephen!
This is my new favorite channel
Sweet!
Thank you for making these videos - they're probably my favourite on RUclips! I'd love to get your thoughts on The Hateful Eight or Seven But I'm sure what ever movies you pick will be awesome :) keep up the great work.
Thank you for watching, I'm honored! I think both of those are great suggestions. I consider Se7en to be a perfect movie, so I'm very curious what the screenplay is like.
Great video! The Internal Logic thing is so important. I feel like so many movies miss
this, maybe because of the number of people that have input into making
changes (cough Executives). Establish your rules, alert the audience to
possible exceptions, and keep everything within the rules.
I like your WYDDDT construct. Keep the audience involved and on the
lookout. You want people paying attention and interested. This makes
the payoff mean something.
One last thing. I think comedic breaks are so often underused or
overlooked in modern cinema. For most stories, I think laughter is an
integral part of an enjoyable film, no matter the genre.
I agree 100% with all your points. Especially that laughter is integral to all stories. Make 'em laugh, make 'em cry, as they say.
I really like your videos, well done :)
I was gonna give some suggestions but I'd be okay watching any video essay about any movie from you, thanks for the content!
btw it'd be cool if you could do Rush Hour. I like how they integrated the Asian cop movie with the American comedy.
Thanks Bradley! And that's a cool suggestion. Would require some research, but that would be fun. Whenever I hear "War" by Edwin Starr I think of Rush Hour.
Awesome work man, please keep it up!
Thanks!
Wonderful video!
Your videos are great, man. I'm glad you found success early on your channel.
And, hey, could you analyze one of Paul Thomas Anderson's films? They always felt offbeat and instinctive at the same time to me....
Thank you! That's a good way to describe them. I do love his films, I'll just have to figure out which one to do...
Actors collaborating with great writers and directors make for the best films!
Agreed ;)
I see you love John Truby's "Anatomy of Story" as much as I do!!
Keep up the good work.
I do indeed! It's pretty fantastic. I think I'm going to be using it a lot. Thanks!
Thanks! I love your essays!
Thanks!
"Crazy alternatives..." ! Man, you made my day! Thank you, and keep the good content coming :-)
Awesome! Will do. :)
Hah, didn't notice the superimpose of LFTS on the tarot card on the first viewing. Nice touch.
So, is WYDDDT essentially an extension of Chekov's Gun? It seems to be. What would you say the differences are?
Steven Fann Forbidden Chekhov's Gun is what TV Tropes calls it. It's basically what was described here: something is mentioned that the characters are told never to use/do/say/whatever, but they end up either having to do so or accidentally doing so later.
do any of these theories present a reason behind the transgression?
The Harry Potter novels are interesting though, in that there's a lot of Chekhov's guns, but some of them turn out to be rocket launchers. For example, the diary of Tom Riddle is revealed to be what's controlling people at the school, making people think it has revealed its purpose, but a lot later it is revealed to be a horcrux, an even greater purpose. It's a clever way to play down a Chekhov's gun, hiding it's 'true' purpose as a Chekhov's rocket launcher.
Kami Lee What's particularly funny is that TV Tropes' "Forbidden Chekhov's Gun" article used to be named "Crossing the Streams", in honor of _Ghostbusters_ .
I've watched this more then once, and find I still learn from it.
You made me think of the little red button in the Crown Vic from Men in Black when you mention rules that would later get broken.
I like the thought on WYDDDT. I just saw Guardians 2 and Rocket told Baby Groot, "Whatever you do, dont push that button" and by the end they used the same concept in the reverse by him NOT pushing that button to show a payoff of Groots growth in competence.
Your videos are great. Subscribed.
Excellent!
I very much enjoyed this video! Good stuff.
Awesome!
I learned a lot from this video. So insightful.
Great Video! More! Lots more!
It's a credit to the execution in ghostbusters of the tricks you list that even though I recognize the trick happening, I can't really tell how. I think part of this is that none of the cute jokes seem thrown in, they're believable lines or situations given who the characters are and how they behave. So when you are confronted with the obvious WYDDDT it feels like a natural (if cheesy) situation. Hallmark of great comedy, respecting your audience by winking at them a little while you stretch their credulity. Bill Murray phd is the embodiment of this.
And to think we might never have had Janine, for some interplanetary action flick.
Bill Murray phd ftw always.
The Court of Source approves. Great video Michael, keep up the good work.
Thanks! I just binge-watched a bunch of your videos, they're great.
+Lessons from the Screenplay
I doubt you read this, but I'm honest to god an aspiring screenwriter, and while I want to be a director and editor and even cinematographer (yeah, a bit of Shane Carruth going on here), I often feel as though screenwriting is one of the most essential parts of a film, and I rarely see people talking about it. It's refreshing to see a channel purely focus on how important writing is -- from dialogue to structure down to the premise -- and bring that information to people who normally wouldn't understand or know about it (as most channels on RUclips focus on the more physical and hands on aspects of filmmaking).
From the bottom of my heart, I just wanted to say thanks for making this channel, and I hope you keep making more videos.
PS: more of a two parter side note; would you ever talk about how improv can change the direction of a screenplay (ALA Wolf of Wall Street, I think, being the biggest example of that), and maybe talk about the process of adapted screenplays from novel or even short film to feature length picture?
Thanks Josh! I'm really glad you appreciate the channel, because that's how I feel as well. A lot of people never consider the screenplay, and screenwriters deserve more credit and we also need to encourage better scripts.
Those are two interesting topics that could be fun to look at. Examining how a story moves from novel to screenplay is a good way to get into what a screenplay is and what it isn't.
Thanks again!
Thank you for your lesson. I have watched your all lesson. it has been great help. Could you recommend some good on Screen writing. I have read Syd field's. Thank you.. keep giving us lesson.
Would love for you to do Looper. Fantastic script I'd love for you to break down.
Keep it up your vids are awesome!
Thanks Ric! Looper could be cool, I may look at Rian Johnson's Brick first, that's my favorite of his.
That was interesting/informative, now i'm wondering if the small green slime ghost was an indirect tribute to John Belushi as it behaves just like him in Animal House at the canteen totally stuffing it's face?
Loved it. One suggestion though, when you mention things used in multiple screenplays (ex. WYDDDT) it'd be nice to see other examples
I agree. I had actually tried to use an example from Ant-Man, but it was blocked by the RUclips content ID system. I will try to include more examples in the future.
Great video, keep it up!
Thanks!
I just pledged to your patreon. Damn, I wish I met guys like you when I was in filmschool. :D)))
Thanks Radrey!! Well, at least we've met now. There's always time.
Probably have 100000 requests, but what about an old action/suspense movie?
-Die Hard
-Jaws
Love the work!! It is much appreciated.
Good suggestions! Added to the list :)
Damn man, why did I find this channel so early? I wish I had lots of videos to watch already.
Working on it!
I would love to hear your thoughts on Memento, Once Were Warriors, or Blue Ruin. I'd say why but you seem insightful enough that I needn't waste the time. Oh yeah, and awesome work...by the way. If you've got an extra copy of those books... or wanna let me borrow yours... I will definitely return them.
Thanks, Michael, I enjoyed this video!
Thank you!
Appreciate the time you put in . Respect from your subscriber in India
Thanks!
Insightful, great video. You make RUclips better with each upload :)
Why thank you :)
I would love to see a video about modern blockbusters, but of course only if you think it would be a good video :) Love the content, keep it up
I watched Batman v Superman last night...and how I WISH I could talk about that screenplay. The tricky part is a lot of the major studios (Marvel, Disney) don't release their screenplays publicly. But I will try. Thanks for watching!
+Lessons from the Screenplay Where do you get the screenplays?
+DEADPOOL9AND Mostly just googling around. www.simplyscripts.com and www.screenplaydb.com are two places I've used.
+Lessons from the Screenplay Thank you.
Please do a video on "Zerkalo", one of my favorite Tarkovsky film and one my favorite film of all time. It would be nice of you exploring this phenomenal work.
I'm not familiar with that one so I'll have to check it out!
all in this video can be said about Back to the Future too, a movie that's similar to Ghostbusters in a lot of ways
My brother showed me your channel and I've been watching your videos all day. Have you ever dissected a John Hughes script?
Thanks Kristen's brother! I have not, I actually need to see more of his movies, I haven't seen many :\
Great video, thanks!
Thanks!
I know it might not be the most famous movie but I'd really like to see an analyzes from you of Lost in Translation.
i'd watch 1800's steampunk ghostbusters
You know what. I think me too.
I was wondering, your videos are so great and they cover many great point. There's a movie with a lot to cover: DO MEMENTO (2000) :)
Would love to hear your opinion on the Terminator 2 screenplay. For what is on the surface, a simplistic action movie, it has a very efficient script.
Oh! That would be interesting. It's a great example of how an action movie can have great character development and be emotional.