Oh yeah! I would love to see a scene of Daemon and Caraxes face the Cannibal dragon, now that would not only be interesting but fascinating and entertaining to see what Cannibal dragon in the dance would do to Daemon and Caraxes in second season in House of The Dragon.👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Cannibal being a cannibal would’ve had to be bigger than Vhagar and VERY VERY possible as big as Balerion. Realistically for its universe it would’ve *HAD* to be of unimaginable size. I think the show will most likely depict him bigger than Vhagar since the show is supposed to serve as the truth opposed to the maestros who recorded the events in the history.
he should be bigger than balerion, since he was older than balerion and lived free, while balerion was caged in his later years. Dragons that live free grow larger than those caged. Cannibal should be as large as vhagar minimum if not larger.
@@MisterDanger01 I do agree. The only reason why I think cannibal will Be slightly smaller than balerion but bigger than Vhagar is because I feel that HBO want to save Balerion for the conquerors series. I think they’re going to want Balerion to be a true MARVEL to look at. They’re going to want to show us why Balerion was so talked about.
@@MisterDanger01 the thing is the targs and other valerians used blood magic to enhance/speed up the growth of they dragon lines they had bonded with much like how humans use growth hormones on cows,pigs and fowl to make them grow faster and bigger then they would naturally however this is heavily implied to negatively effect the dragons health the older and bigger it gets since there organs and skeletal structure can't keep up the enhanced growth where as a truly wild dragon from a wild unultered line would grow slower but would remain healthier as it gets bigger and live longer explaining how cannibal could be 300+ maybe even 400+ years old yet still seemingly be healthy and by all appearances in his prime compared to balerion that died of old age at 220 years old or vheagar who was only 181 but clearly started to have noticeable issues bc of her size meanwhile cannibals supposedly much older but having none of these issues in the same way alot of large dog breeds we rapidly made much smaller or bigger then the wolf relative they descend from resulting in those dogs suffering many health issues and/or much shorter life spans compared to there wild counterparts or dog breeds that were no were near as artificially modified.
Cannibal is not larger than Vhagar. Those size charts on RUclips are not factual and only serve as hype for a mysterious dragon. There is absolutely no evidence or material to suggest Cannibal’s size. We only have rumors and conjecture. Then there is the fact that the book has stated several times that Vhagar is the oldest and largest living dragon in Westeros, and Vermithor is the second. Contrary to popular belief, it doesn’t say largest Targaryen dragon; it says largest Westerosi dragon period. George R.R. Martin also stated Vhagar to be the oldest and largest dragon in a video where he answered fan questions. Ryan Condal and other producers from the behind-the-scenes episode also made it very clear that Vhagar is the oldest and largest. Cannibal also has no relevance to the plot and is barely mentioned in the book. We simply have no idea what his size or age are.
@@Josh-tg9uv cannibal *SHOULD* be larger than Vhagar. For one that eats other dragons I think it would serve well for Vhagar to actual be bigger than Vhagar but smaller than Balerion. The shows always do different things from what we think so Cannibal being bigger would be an excellent confirmation we findout in the show. I believe they just may go this route.
If the Cannibal existed before Agon got to Dragonstone then how did he outlive Balarion, because that would mean he's much older than Balerion. I guess that could be attributed to Balerion's disappearance to old Valyria, where he came back badly injured
Not even. For example, Vhagar has been through war sure, but she's relatively healthy/uninjured and she's showing signs of age. She had a good few decades ahead of her at least, but no more than a century. There's no way, injured or not, that Cannibal could be older than Balerion. The size alone makes it incredibly difficult for me to believe Cannibal would be capable of doing anything more than laze around his cave and maybe step out to see some sun for an hour before crawling back in. Definitely not flying about much at all.
A lot is wrong with the timeline of this video and even you also get it wrong. Aegon was not the first Targaryen to arrive Dragon stone. In fact Aegon was born in DragonStone. Aegon wasn’t the one who brought Balerion to Dragon stone. Aenar Targaryen was the first to leave Valyria for DragonStone after his daughter had a dream about the destruction. Aegon was born in Dragon Stone about 90 years after the Targaryen’s arrival at Dragon Stone. Aenar and family came to Dragon Stone with 5 dragons. Of the five dragons who had flown with Aenar Exile from Valyria, only one survived to Aegon’s day. the great beast called Balerion, the Black Dread. It is said that Balerion leaved for about 200 years. (Died during the reign of king Jaehaery’s 94 AC) NOW THE MATHS. If Aegon was born about 90 years after Targaryens arrived Dragon stone, it means Balerion was already about 100 years old when Aegon was born. (Assuming he was only 10 years old when they left Valyria). The conquest was when Aegon was 27 years old at which point Balerion would be about 117 years old. Balerion died 94 years after the conquest at about 211 years old. DANCE OF DRAGON was about 35 years after the death of Balerion. So if Cannibal was still alive during the Dance of Dragons and if Cannibal was already on Dragon Stone when the Targaryens arrived, he should be about 250 years of age.
Have you read the books? Cannibal is born in dragon stone. The dragons that came from old Valyria had blood magic done on their eggs hence their size. GRRM already said that aegons father brought balerion as a baby dragon and 2 unhatched eggs ( meraxes and vhagar)
simple he is from a wild unaltered line of dragons as the the ones *domesticated* by the valerians were all artificially altered by the valerians with blood magic being used to as a growth horomone to make there dragons grow alot faster then they naturally would which would shorten there life spans as there organs and skeletal structure would not be able to keep with with the enchanced growth as the dragons got bigger resulting in the dragons own weight eventually killing them when they got to big for there own bodies to handle where as cannibal and other wild unaltered dragons would have a slower rate of growth but a much longer lifespan as there organs and skeletal structure would be able to keep up with there natural growth rate.
Seeking out eggs seems in line with behavior of a territorial animal and if he’s huge, a dragon corpse is probably a decently sized meal without extra risk of injury.
@@danieloliphant9969 well ok rarely like once a week, but no way he eats like once in 10 years, for example during the events of season 1 where rhaenyra was a child till the end of it where she has 5 children at dragonstone around 15 years or more have past, but how many dragons died during these 15 years? none of the dragons that were claimed died, thats for sure and then the three wild dragons that we know of (vermithor, sheepstealer and cannibal) are all alive by the end of season 1 so what did he eat during these 15 years? the answers are a: he doesnt only eat just dragons exclusively, he still will eat goats/sheeps/maybe even fish but he also eats dragons which gave him the nickname b: there could be quite a few more dragons in wild existence, that no one knows of, not the people in the shows nor the books. they might be rare and not too many, but maybe there are like 5-7 more wild dragons that were unseen during all the 100 years of the story and cannibal may have eaten one or two of them.
Ok, now that season 2 is done and season 3 looks like many dragons fighting and dying and Dragonstone now being vacated because all the dragons are claimed and off at battle our chances of seeing Cannibal in season 3 skyrockets. Eggs and or hatchlings unguarded, dragons dying which I hate to see but i would like to see Cannibal make an appearance
@@mymh8633 vermithor was almost as old and almost as big as vaghar but ok sounds like that says age does have a factor.. secondly everyone knows penned dragons don't grow as much as a cannibal eating and living freely would be bigger.. which he's not meaning he's gotta be younger it's the only other factor involved
cannibal is most likely from a 4th line of wild dragons that never bonded with any valrians which would explain his aggression to humans,valerians and the targ owned dragons in the same way wolves will usually attack and kill dogs onsight, valrians used blood magic to artificially enhance/speed up there dragon breeds growth resulting in there dragons growing faster but like growth hormones in real life would likely lead to many health issues and a shorter life span as there bodies organs and skeletal structure would not be able to keep up with the faster growth rate, on the other hand cannibal being from a wild unaltered line would grow slower but live alot longer bc he'd be growing at the natural healthy rate dragons are supposed to be growing hence why he could possible be 300+ maybe even 400+ years old yet still very fit,healthy and seemingly in his prime compared to balerion who died from *old age* at only 220 or vheagar whos body is starting to really deteriorate at 180 years old bc there bodies couldn't keep up with there enhanced growth rate
Pretty sure it's well established Vermithor is the most dangrous Dragon. The Cannibal doesn't really care for humans and it only attacks the dragons that are smaller than it for obvious reasons. The like Caraxes, Meleys, Vhagar, Vermithor, Dreamfyre Silverwing, all these dragons are larger than it! and yeah again Vermithor, The Bronze Fury, as the name suggests is the most dangerous dragon!
vhaegars the most dangerous dragon that participates in the dance bc of her massive size, cannibal is actually the most dangeruos and feared dragon alive during the dance bc of how powerful and aggressive he is but since is is not directly involved with the dance he isn't a threat to the war itself, just remember during the sewing of the dragon seeds scores of people line up to claim vermithor and sheep stealer despite there reputations but NONE of the dragon seeds that showed up to claim a dragon (there was well over 100) dared to go anywhere near cannibals lair, as it was well known that (this is stated in the boooks) any living thing that ventured near his lair would never comeback to tell the tale and as stated in the video even other dragons avoided his lair at all cost and would run/fly away the very instant cannibal made his presence known
@@CrimsonReapa Vhagar is the largest! but i wasn't the most dangerous! it's rider was the most feared because of Vhager size advantage, but the The dangerous danger itself was Vermithor. Again The cannibal was a large dragon but it was that large and it stay away from the other larger dragons
It will never happen but i would love it if john snow came face to face with death itself and was able to bond with the cannibal facing drogon if they decide to res dany in snow
Overall, Cannibal is likely the 3rd largest Dragon of the Dance, likely tied with Silverwing (so, smaller than Vhagar and Vermithor). Daemon trying to reason with it to make him more susceptible to riders make sense but... surely he knows of the Cannibal's reputation. Best to live to fight another day, not get gobbled by a Dragon who has no interest in making bonds or sharing with others. It's a wonder the Targaryens didn't kill him a while ago. Sure, Vermithor/Vhagar/Caraxes could've jumped him and put an end to the Cannibal back in Jaehaerys' reign.
the sowing of the dragon seeds is where cannibal first appears in the books so it is very possible he shows up in ep 7 or 8 as those are the episodes that cover the sowing of the dragon seeds
You practically repeated in a few different ways that the Cannibal is very large, dangerously unpredictable, and eats other dragons 🤣
Yea not worth the subscribe if you ask me lol
@@Hurdurdur369 Nah, not even close lol
We so badly need a Drogon spinoff
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We need a series about Valeria
@@Jon79w no we don't...I'm tired of all these prequels...I wanna know about Drogon n Daenerys...n Jon Snow, Sansa n Arya
Oh yeah! I would love to see a scene of Daemon and Caraxes face the Cannibal dragon, now that would not only be interesting but fascinating and entertaining to see what Cannibal dragon in the dance would do to Daemon and Caraxes in second season in House of The Dragon.👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Daemon & Caraxes are the best.👑🐉
I would like to see Daemon tame him and use him as the secret weapon the desperately need to win the war and take back the throne
Yes!!!!!! So happy you made this like my mind was read lol love it
I don’t know the channel doesn’t have more subs…superb editing
Cannibal being a cannibal would’ve had to be bigger than Vhagar and VERY VERY possible as big as Balerion. Realistically for its universe it would’ve *HAD* to be of unimaginable size. I think the show will most likely depict him bigger than Vhagar since the show is supposed to serve as the truth opposed to the maestros who recorded the events in the history.
he should be bigger than balerion, since he was older than balerion and lived free, while balerion was caged in his later years. Dragons that live free grow larger than those caged. Cannibal should be as large as vhagar minimum if not larger.
@@MisterDanger01 I do agree. The only reason why I think cannibal will
Be slightly smaller than balerion but bigger than Vhagar is because I feel that HBO want to save Balerion for the conquerors series. I think they’re going to want Balerion to be a true MARVEL to look at. They’re going to want to show us why Balerion was so talked about.
@@MisterDanger01 the thing is the targs and other valerians used blood magic to enhance/speed up the growth of they dragon lines they had bonded with much like how humans use growth hormones on cows,pigs and fowl to make them grow faster and bigger then they would naturally however this is heavily implied to negatively effect the dragons health the older and bigger it gets since there organs and skeletal structure can't keep up the enhanced growth where as a truly wild dragon from a wild unultered line would grow slower but would remain healthier as it gets bigger and live longer explaining how cannibal could be 300+ maybe even 400+ years old yet still seemingly be healthy and by all appearances in his prime compared to balerion that died of old age at 220 years old or vheagar who was only 181 but clearly started to have noticeable issues bc of her size meanwhile cannibals supposedly much older but having none of these issues in the same way alot of large dog breeds we rapidly made much smaller or bigger then the wolf relative they descend from resulting in those dogs suffering many health issues and/or much shorter life spans compared to there wild counterparts or dog breeds that were no were near as artificially modified.
Cannibal is not larger than Vhagar. Those size charts on RUclips are not factual and only serve as hype for a mysterious dragon. There is absolutely no evidence or material to suggest Cannibal’s size. We only have rumors and conjecture. Then there is the fact that the book has stated several times that Vhagar is the oldest and largest living dragon in Westeros, and Vermithor is the second. Contrary to popular belief, it doesn’t say largest Targaryen dragon; it says largest Westerosi dragon period. George R.R. Martin also stated Vhagar to be the oldest and largest dragon in a video where he answered fan questions. Ryan Condal and other producers from the behind-the-scenes episode also made it very clear that Vhagar is the oldest and largest. Cannibal also has no relevance to the plot and is barely mentioned in the book. We simply have no idea what his size or age are.
@@Josh-tg9uv cannibal *SHOULD* be larger than Vhagar. For one that eats other dragons I think it would serve well for Vhagar to actual be bigger than Vhagar but smaller than Balerion. The shows always do different things from what we think so Cannibal being bigger would be an excellent confirmation we findout in the show.
I believe they just may go this route.
If the Cannibal existed before Agon got to Dragonstone then how did he outlive Balarion, because that would mean he's much older than Balerion. I guess that could be attributed to Balerion's disappearance to old Valyria, where he came back badly injured
Not even. For example, Vhagar has been through war sure, but she's relatively healthy/uninjured and she's showing signs of age. She had a good few decades ahead of her at least, but no more than a century.
There's no way, injured or not, that Cannibal could be older than Balerion. The size alone makes it incredibly difficult for me to believe Cannibal would be capable of doing anything more than laze around his cave and maybe step out to see some sun for an hour before crawling back in. Definitely not flying about much at all.
It's also possible that Balerion's lifespan is not the longest lifespan a dragon could live.
A lot is wrong with the timeline of this video and even you also get it wrong.
Aegon was not the first Targaryen to arrive Dragon stone.
In fact Aegon was born in DragonStone.
Aegon wasn’t the one who brought Balerion to Dragon stone.
Aenar Targaryen was the first to leave Valyria for DragonStone after his daughter had a dream about the destruction.
Aegon was born in Dragon Stone about 90 years after the Targaryen’s arrival at Dragon Stone.
Aenar and family came to Dragon Stone with 5 dragons.
Of the five dragons who had flown with Aenar Exile from Valyria, only one survived to Aegon’s day. the great beast called Balerion, the Black Dread.
It is said that Balerion leaved for about 200 years.
(Died during the reign of king Jaehaery’s 94 AC)
NOW THE MATHS.
If Aegon was born about 90 years after Targaryens arrived Dragon stone, it means Balerion was already about 100 years old when Aegon was born. (Assuming he was only 10 years old when they left Valyria).
The conquest was when Aegon was 27 years old at which point Balerion would be about
117 years old.
Balerion died 94 years after the conquest at about 211 years old.
DANCE OF DRAGON was about 35 years after the death of Balerion. So if Cannibal was still alive during the Dance of Dragons and if Cannibal was already on Dragon Stone when the Targaryens arrived, he should be about 250 years of age.
Have you read the books? Cannibal is born in dragon stone. The dragons that came from old Valyria had blood magic done on their eggs hence their size. GRRM already said that aegons father brought balerion as a baby dragon and 2 unhatched eggs ( meraxes and vhagar)
simple he is from a wild unaltered line of dragons as the the ones *domesticated* by the valerians were all artificially altered by the valerians with blood magic being used to as a growth horomone to make there dragons grow alot faster then they naturally would which would shorten there life spans as there organs and skeletal structure would not be able to keep with with the enchanced growth as the dragons got bigger resulting in the dragons own weight eventually killing them when they got to big for there own bodies to handle where as cannibal and other wild unaltered dragons would have a slower rate of growth but a much longer lifespan as there organs and skeletal structure would be able to keep up with there natural growth rate.
my only hope is that they dont ruin the cannibals design -_-
Seeking out eggs seems in line with behavior of a territorial animal and if he’s huge, a dragon corpse is probably a decently sized meal without extra risk of injury.
How does NOONE ever asks where the dragons the cannibal eats come from?!? I'm sure he needs to eat a decent amount and the only dragons are protected.
Maybe like snakes, they only eat rarely
@@danieloliphant9969 well ok rarely like once a week, but no way he eats like once in 10 years, for example during the events of season 1 where rhaenyra was a child till the end of it where she has 5 children at dragonstone around 15 years or more have past, but how many dragons died during these 15 years? none of the dragons that were claimed died, thats for sure and then the three wild dragons that we know of (vermithor, sheepstealer and cannibal) are all alive by the end of season 1 so what did he eat during these 15 years?
the answers are
a: he doesnt only eat just dragons exclusively, he still will eat goats/sheeps/maybe even fish but he also eats dragons which gave him the nickname
b: there could be quite a few more dragons in wild existence, that no one knows of, not the people in the shows nor the books. they might be rare and not too many, but maybe there are like 5-7 more wild dragons that were unseen during all the 100 years of the story and cannibal may have eaten one or two of them.
@@janniside5128 Well said. I was gonna say that just bc his name is the Cannibal doesn’t mean that he only eats dragons.
He's known to eat dragon eggs and young dragons, likely born from the other wild dragons. Cannibal kept the wild dragon population in check.
Because we know them
Ok, now that season 2 is done and season 3 looks like many dragons fighting and dying and Dragonstone now being vacated because all the dragons are claimed and off at battle our chances of seeing Cannibal in season 3 skyrockets. Eggs and or hatchlings unguarded, dragons dying which I hate to see but i would like to see Cannibal make an appearance
A dragon is like a weapon you must be able to aim it Cannibal is probably too wild and dangerous to everyone
This is a great scenario!!!
Also if he was older than the black dread. Cannibal would be bigger never being caged and feeding at will, but he's not so he has to be younger
Dragons age doesn’t determine there size in asoiaf. Vermithor is much younger than Vhagar during the dance but is almost as large.
@@mymh8633 vermithor was almost as old and almost as big as vaghar but ok sounds like that says age does have a factor.. secondly everyone knows penned dragons don't grow as much as a cannibal eating and living freely would be bigger.. which he's not meaning he's gotta be younger it's the only other factor involved
cannibal is most likely from a 4th line of wild dragons that never bonded with any valrians which would explain his aggression to humans,valerians and the targ owned dragons in the same way wolves will usually attack and kill dogs onsight, valrians used blood magic to artificially enhance/speed up there dragon breeds growth resulting in there dragons growing faster but like growth hormones in real life would likely lead to many health issues and a shorter life span as there bodies organs and skeletal structure would not be able to keep up with the faster growth rate, on the other hand cannibal being from a wild unaltered line would grow slower but live alot longer bc he'd be growing at the natural healthy rate dragons are supposed to be growing hence why he could possible be 300+ maybe even 400+ years old yet still very fit,healthy and seemingly in his prime compared to balerion who died from *old age* at only 220 or vheagar whos body is starting to really deteriorate at 180 years old bc there bodies couldn't keep up with there enhanced growth rate
@@CrimsonReapa if dragons are made with blood magic...the wild ones were too..
Pretty sure it's well established Vermithor is the most dangrous Dragon. The Cannibal doesn't really care for humans and it only attacks the dragons that are smaller than it for obvious reasons. The like Caraxes, Meleys, Vhagar, Vermithor, Dreamfyre Silverwing, all these dragons are larger than it!
and yeah again Vermithor, The Bronze Fury, as the name suggests is the most dangerous dragon!
vhaegars the most dangerous dragon that participates in the dance bc of her massive size, cannibal is actually the most dangeruos and feared dragon alive during the dance bc of how powerful and aggressive he is but since is is not directly involved with the dance he isn't a threat to the war itself, just remember during the sewing of the dragon seeds scores of people line up to claim vermithor and sheep stealer despite there reputations but NONE of the dragon seeds that showed up to claim a dragon (there was well over 100) dared to go anywhere near cannibals lair, as it was well known that (this is stated in the boooks) any living thing that ventured near his lair would never comeback to tell the tale and as stated in the video even other dragons avoided his lair at all cost and would run/fly away the very instant cannibal made his presence known
@@CrimsonReapa Vhagar is the largest! but i wasn't the most dangerous! it's rider was the most feared because of Vhager size advantage, but the The dangerous danger itself was Vermithor. Again The cannibal was a large dragon but it was that large and it stay away from the other larger dragons
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It will never happen but i would love it if john snow came face to face with death itself and was able to bond with the cannibal facing drogon if they decide to res dany in snow
Overall, Cannibal is likely the 3rd largest Dragon of the Dance, likely tied with Silverwing (so, smaller than Vhagar and Vermithor). Daemon trying to reason with it to make him more susceptible to riders make sense but... surely he knows of the Cannibal's reputation. Best to live to fight another day, not get gobbled by a Dragon who has no interest in making bonds or sharing with others.
It's a wonder the Targaryens didn't kill him a while ago. Sure, Vermithor/Vhagar/Caraxes could've jumped him and put an end to the Cannibal back in Jaehaerys' reign.
Exactly I always wonder why the targs didn’t kill him
i don't think anyone is taming or facing Cannibal ever, he just to aggressive and wild to be tamed and to dangerous to be faced in battle
cannibal was literally a dragon birth control XD
The Cannibal can not be tamed, because he hates people, he is from Valeriya
No sheep stealer and cannibal have been merged just like nettles and daemons daughter just like griff and jon snow
King Ghidorah will beat cannibal ez.🐸🔥
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Yes.
Yesss
He's not gonna be in the show this season stop it
the sowing of the dragon seeds is where cannibal first appears in the books so it is very possible he shows up in ep 7 or 8 as those are the episodes that cover the sowing of the dragon seeds
Aegon did DID NOT arrive at Drago stone. He was born on Dragon Stone.
And...we're still waiting. Crummy filler season
Forking bullschit dragons fairytale