Doctor Who 4x13 Journey's End Reaction | First Time Watching
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Doctor Who 4x13 Journey's End Reaction | First Time Watching
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In the wake of Davros' threat to destroy the existence of the Universe itself, the Doctor's companions unite to stop the Dalek empire. Which one will die by the prophecies and what will the fate be for the Doctor?
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"I saw the Doctor."
"Yes, you did, Donna. And then you forgot."
Poor Jules, went from crying with joy, to crying with sorrow, to crying with joy, to crying with sorrow, in an incredible reaction video, to this superb episode of New Who.
I have to admit, I'm in love with her because of that.
A happy ending for everyone except Donna. Enough to make anyone cry, in my opinion.
That's Doctor Who in a nutshell, pretty much. 😆
@@anthonycaracausa9895 Me, too :)
That's Who at it's Best
And this is why we love Wilf.
He's incredible 💜
God rest Bernard cribbins
Now go back to the episode of the Library and River Song realizing she's standing next to Donna Noble. You can now clearly understand the expression on her face. Awe + Sadness.
"Then maybe you should tell her that once in a while!" The way she finally got told off about how she talks about Donna. ❤
To give Sylvia her credit, it does seem she was doing everything she could to protect Donna from that moment, even to the point of denying reality when it threatened to trigger Donna's memories, ven though it made Sylvia look like a right old wally.
@@gestaltdude spoiler much?!
@@amywonderland9297 If you can predict exactly what is going to happen in any episode based on that brief description, you should get a job writing for the show.
Sara-Jane: You act like such a lonely man. But you've got the biggest family on Earth.
Doctor 5 minutes later: *Stays absolutely alone*
I've always headcanoned that part of the reason why The Doctor leaves people is because that way he could theoretically pop back in and see them. When, if he stays with them for the rest of their lives, eventually, they die. Thanks to not being able to intersect his own timeline, he would never be able to go back.
In less than 100 years (barring Jack, to be fair), everyone in that Tardis would be dead, and he'd hardly have aged. Being able to blink and suddenly all of your friends got old and died...I can see why you wouldn't want the story to end.
He said it in School Reunion:
You can spend the rest of your life with me. But I can't spend the rest of mine with you. I have to live on, alone. That's the curse of the Timelords.
He will sadly always be The Lonely Doctor.
"N-No, Jackie, no. No, not you." It always cracks me up.
everytime 😂😂😂😂
'YOU ARE THE DESTROYER OF WORLDS!' Says the guy with the reality bomb.
RTD is just overly fond of titling things "the X of Y". And often an optional "itself" tacked on too
That always amazed me. I love the mad dalek is the hero we never knew we needed.
He's not wrong though.
Its not just an RTD thing, that is absolutely in-character for the Doctor and Davros relationship as established in Genesis of the Daleks, in which the 4th Doctor is sent back to destroy the Daleks before their creation, and he asks the question:
Doctor: “Davros, if you had created a virus in your laboratory, something contagious and infectious that killed on contact, a virus that would destroy all other forms of life, would you allow its use?”
Davros : “It is an interesting conjecture.”
Doctor : “Would you do it?”
Davros : “The only living thing, a microscopic organism reigning supreme... A fascinating idea.”
Doctor: “But would you do it?”
Davros : “Yes... Yes… To hold in my hand a capsule that contains such power, to know that life and death on such a scale was my choice... To know that the tiny pressure of my thumb, enough to break the glass, would end everything... Yes, I would do it! That power would set me up above the gods! AND THROUGH THE DALEKS, I SHALL HAVE THAT POWER!”
Then he does create them, the doctor has the opportunity to kill them all by simply crossing two wires but (presumably influenced by the insanity he saw in Davros speech) decides he does not have the right to sentence an entire sapient species to death, and refuses to do it. The time war leads to him walking back this position as every single casualty in it can be traced to that one act of misplaced Mercy.
4th Doctor: “Do I have the right? Simply touch one wire against the other and that's it. The Daleks cease to exist. Hundreds of millions of people, thousands of generations can live without fear, in peace, and never even know the word Dalek.”
Sarah Jane Smith : “Then why wait? If it was a disease or some sort of bacteria you were destroying, you wouldn't hesitate.”
Doctor Who : “But if I kill, wipe out a whole intelligent lifeform, then I become like them. I'd be no better than the Daleks.”
The Doctor’s choice not to become the destroyer of worlds created the Daleks, and they reshaped him in their own image. The point of Davros quote isn’t “Who would be so horrible as to destroy a world” it is “I was right, and you have come to see it too. You should have touched the wires. You are a good Dalek”
@@hunrahel What else is a title going to be except “The X of Y?”
That’s not an RTD thing, that’s just a universal human thing.
"I got my happy ending" when you said that Jules, it broke my heart because I knew what was coming.
Cried more at this episode than when he lost Rose. Donna just wanted to see the Universe. Their relationship was so perfect. And she didn't even get to keep her memories.
Perfect summary. I also found this way more heart wrenching than with Rose, because Donna had grown so much and was so happy and she lost all that in a flash
Of course it is subjective, and even if Donna situation was pretty sad, i think the Rose one (in series 2) is still unbeatable in terms of directing, acting, music and everything in between....also this Donna one is very sad for the Doctor but "only" heartbreaking for Donna (and WIll 😢) while the Rose one was heartbreaking for both Rose and the Doctor at the same time.....also ironically (since Rose is literally back in this episodes ) the Donna situation always seemed to me much more "reversable or "cheatable" in terms of writing than the Rose one, the Rose one seemed to me much more "final" another universe, and "if we meet then the worlds will break", seemed to me a bit arsher than, "if we meet again you might die".
@@micheleduritto it was never "might"
@@DrPickle205 It most definitely was, i am talking from a writer perspective, breaking the 4th walls, analyzing a story being a story, and that semmed to me much more reversable than the entire universe collapsing you know? it is like the writers saying to us, one is possible, maybe, the other is not.....
@@micheleduritto no, it was clearly stated that if donna remembered then she would die
The heart wrenching thing is she finally FINALLY sees her self worth and that is 100% down to her travels with him and all she’s accomplished and just as she’s confident in herself, it’s all wiped away.
I love how you forgot Jack is immortal when he got blasted, then realised when he winked. It’s easy to forget lol
it was his escape strategy...
worked flawless...
When I first watched it I thought he might actually die as this is the first time, since Parting of the Ways, that he has been killed in the same way as his first death.
“Don’t make me go back!” 😢
Gets me every time!
She didn't want to go....
@@lentrax2991 to Trenzalore?
@@Scripture-Man To her old life.
@@Scripture-Man spoilers, sweetie.
"Such a warm feeling. Makes me feel good, I'm so happy"
Things said moments before disaster 😢
Fr though, this episode makes me cry every time.
Fun fact: Martha and Mickey’s ending was supposed to set up both characters joining the cast of Torchwood for season 3, however due to scheduling conflicts neither actually appeared.
Having now seen “Genesis of the Daleks” I now appreciate Sarah Jane and Davros’ confrontation all the more. She was there at his first Classic Who appearance and now she’s at his New Who appearance and has grown into a brave woman that is willing to confront him.
Also Meta Crisis Doctor’s decision to kill the Daleks in a way harkens back to “Genesis” in that there, Tom Baker’s Doctor gave the iconic “Do I Have the Right?” Speech when confronted with the opportunity to wipe out the Daleks whereas now the part human Metacrisis one does that without a second thought, something I’m sure Ten was thinking back on
Add Remembrance of the Daleks to that list.
Genesis is an amazing story. Start of the Time War, too...
I always recommend new reactors watch that (at least watch the truncated version on RUclips) before this point. So far only the reactor Hamza reacts actually did it, and he was very excited when he realized the villain was Davros . The episode packs more of a punch when you’ve watched “Genesis “. It impacts another future episode as well. I wish bbc would release a professionally edited (cut down) version for iplayer. It does suffer from 1960s pacing but it is such an important episode for modern Who.
You can see why we all love Wilf. It's very likely that Donna has the grit and fire she does because Wilf has always and will always be behind her, to encourage her.
Ah, Jules... Like I said, way way back in season 2. One of the most difficult parts of Tennant's run is the amount of emotional baggage he collects, and as much as they tried to push "allonsy" as his catch phrase, he said "I'm sorry, i'm so sorry." So many more times. This was the moment I was alluding to. Massive ups and downs across this episode. Absolutely props to Catherine Tate for being able to speed-dial that dialogue. That is talent.
I didn't know Catherine from a bar of soap, so had no idea what I was getting when she arrived. I now appreciate she is very much an amazing women! The Red Nose Day special with her and David is amazing, too.
To explain the length of series 4, this was the finale of this series, however 2009, the next year, was somewhat of a gap year, instead of a full series, we had a spring special, an autumn special, a christmas special and a new years special, with these specials being regarded as part of series 4.
The scene of everyone flying the earth home together in the TARDIS is honestly the best moment of television I've ever experienced. The entire show built to that moment from nine's first episode and it was so heartwarming 💕
So much payoff lol
Losing/meeting Doctors and losing/meeting Companions - the joy and the pain of being a Who fan!
The children of time will gather, and one of them will die
I love how Dalek Caan doesn't put a time limit on it. Technically they are all going to die (except maybe Jack)...
3 scenes that always get me emotional from this episode.
1) Donna loosing her memories. 😥
2) The Doctor watching Rose kiss The Meta - Crisis Doctor and leaving them together. He knew he could never be with Rose or say that he loved her.
The Doctor's life is so complicated and dangerous. It must have broken both his hearts seeing that when he wanted it. 😥
3) DOCTOR: Ah. You'll have quite a bit of this. Atmospheric disturbance. Still, it'll pass. Everything does. Bye then, Wilfred.
WILF: Oh, Doctor? What about you now? Who've you got? I mean, all those friends of yours.
DOCTOR: They've all got someone else. Still, that's fine. I'm fine.
WILF: I'll watch out for you, sir.
DOCTOR: You can't ever tell her.
WILF: No, no, no. But every night, Doctor, when it gets dark, and the stars come out, I'll look up on her behalf. I'll look up at the sky, and think of you.
DOCTOR: Thank you.
I love that scene. Despite him literally having no one and his companions all gone with others. There was Wilfred, who would think of him. God, what a legend.
"I'd be proud if you were my dad."
@@Ladco77 shhhh....
@@Ladco77 not till later
19:05 " I just feel so good" - I felt for you at that point - knowing what was still to come.
yeah that was hard - we knew what was happening. Still an amazing episode though.
Watching this girl react, and knowing her future, it's like being one of the Doctor Who omen characters who can see into the future.
Funny story, when I watched this with my roommates in college, they kept putting off watching Stolen Earth because they thought 10 would regenerate and they weren’t ready to lose him. I had to swear up and down he survived it to get them to watch, and the dirty looks I got when he was zapped will haunt me to my dying day, as will the even dirtier looks in the beginning of the next part when he survived and I got to say, “see? Told you!” As obnoxiously as possible.
Captain Jack can't tell you what he's thinking right now. 😂 Happy Pride!
Man…the day you release this, is the same day that my friend is moving away to go back to her home country. She’s a huge Doctor Who fan, and we’ve spent hours talking about the show together. We’ll see each other again, but it won’t be the same, or nearly as often. I can’t help but feel we’ve reached a journey’s end of our own.
The scene where the Doctor walks off into the rain, insisting to Wilf that he’ll be fine, it’s always broken my heart. But it hits harder than ever now. Donna is her favourite companion, best ever in our opinion. And I’ll miss my IRL Donna for sure
Aww that's so sad, and yet so fitting as well. I'm sure you will see her again, your IRL Donna 💜 Best companion!
All the music in this episode is on point, Murray Gold really outdid himself, i really like the music towards the end whilst they're all in the TARDIS
Absolutely. "The Dream of a Normal Death" was the perfect track to use for the final scene as well.
@@murdomaclachlan indeed! I also like the casting of Julian Bleach as Davros he's just a brilliant villainous actor.
"I saw the truth of us, creator, and I decreed NO MORE!" Iykyk. :)
The Daleks in Germany say "Exterminieren" funny thing is in the german dub the Daleks chatchphrase is "Eleminieren" it has the same meaning but it's funny to me that the one time the Daleks speak german its not the Word used in the german dub.
Maybe because Exterminate has a cultural taboo after ww2
One of the wildest, most joyous, and most heart-breaking finales in Who history. Donna is still my favourite companion of all time, and I will never get over her goodbye 💔
Doctor Who Endgame was absolutely nuts with so much they fit into this part especially bringing in Mickey & Jackie into this episode, The Meta Crisis Doctor, The Daleks speaking German (Which is a little on the nose) and other parts.
I do like the flashback they have when Davros is talking to the Doctor with Rose being there of how many people died in the name of the Doctor and it really hits home that how many have died. Davros in this episode is really good talking with the Doctor pointing it out. Julian Bleach is a great actor for the part.
The Dimension Canon has a interesting history away from the TV Show. There is a Big Finish set of Rose's adventures using it which is a series i havent listened to but its out there.
The Meta Crisis Doctor was born out of war and in a way still have 9 and 10's anger after the time war so thats all he kinda knew which was Genoside. Im not entirely sure if thats right but its what i kinda get from it.
Donna's fate honestly devastated me at the time and even in rewatches cause everything she learnt, all the growth she had and being the Doctor-Donna gets erased in her memories and she goes back to her normal life where she thinks shes nothing. The choice was taken away from her to save her life but it hurts. The way Wilf crys when he says he will look up into the sky for the doctor hurts too.
There's also a deleted scene where the 10th Doctor handed a small piece of the tardis to the meta crisis doctor for it to grow his own but it got cut
This absolutely is the Endgame of Doctor Who.
@@Venemofthe888I FUCKING KNEW I DIDN'T Imagine THAT! I've thought I was going crazy for years remembering it but not seeing it in any reactions!
@@mayotango1317 I think the point is genocide is never right no matter what the species is even the daleks
@@Venemofthe888 I would also feel bad if they didn't pop back up over and over and over and OVER again. I'm honestly kind of Dalek'ed out.
This is exactly Doctor Who. When it's happy, there's happy tears, when it's sad, it truly rips your heart out 😄
Love your reactions so much ❤
Sending virtual hugs 😊
Donna was my favorite companion too. And that includes all companions that came after, including present season.
Far more tragic than a regeneration is the fate of Donna Noble, to have lost all that memory and experience of traveling with the Doctor, by which she had grown and matured as the very best of companions.
When Martha's confronted by the old German woman, she says to her "Sie sind die Albtraum, nicht die anderen, Sie!", meaning "You are the nightmare, not the others [The Daleks], you!" followed by "Ich sollte Sie umbringen, am besten Gleich jetzt!", meaning "I should kill you here, preferably right now!". - Since the Osterhagen Key is the strategically placed nuclear weapons, the strong emotional response is immense. "Zur Hoelle mit dir" (To hell with you!) is a powerful, final statement, despite the plan never being used.
As for Donna... She's one of my absolute favourite companions of this era. Her 'forced' departure kills me every time.
OOH thank you for the translation!!
If I could have it my way, it would be Doctor Donna FOREVER 💜
@@julesreacts Would you watch any of the doctor who spinoffs like Torchwood (Captain Jack)?
I don't have time for any new reactions right now, but I'd like to see them!
I didn't know that, that's awesome
I wonder if that's a nod to Charlton Heston's famous "Damn you all to Hell!" line from Beneath the Planet of the Apes.
(Scarily, after I'd thought of this, but *before* I'd typed anything, a clip from that very film came up in my recommendations...)
Oh Jules, the highs and the lows of Journey's End and Donna Noble. 'I got my happy ending' - Ouch! I adore Donna too and I love her end, because it's so wonderfully tragic. I guess you have to have the lows and the tears, to appreciate the highs. But onward we go, because we must.
I feel like they've been hinting at the DoctorDonna for a while. Back on Planet of the Ood, Ood Sigma said they would 'Sing of the DoctorDonna'. Not 'the Doctor and Donna', but the DoctorDonna.
And in Silence in the Library, River looked at Donna like she was *shocked* to see Donna. And she KNEW her. Donna only introduced herself as 'Donna' but River knew her full name, she called her "Donna Noble" even tho she hadn't been told it.
These wordings feel VERY deliberate to me.
And like, given that THIS episode with Davros is happening in the present day, but both of those episodes happened *in the future* it's likely they knew of Donna, the woman who saved the world. Of the DoctorDonna, as the Davros stuff had already happened for them (or at least maybe, knew on a subconscious b/c wibbly wobbly timey wimey? idk). But like, they almost certainly knew something.
The Ood are picking up the ripples of this event traveling backwards through donna's and the doctor's timeline, it isn't the only time they predict the future. As for River, she knows a future version of the doctor which is why she was surprised by how young he was. So likely knows of Donna from the doctor himself talking about her.
Poor Jules😢……on a lighter note, The song of freedom ( the music that is playing when they pull the Earth back) …I have as my ring tone 😍🇬🇧
Nice!
Oh wow 💜💜 Nice choice!
The moment where they pull the Earth back home is easily one of my favorite moments, it’s just so beautiful. Seeing everyone together piloting the TARDIS as the Song of Freedom, the same song the Ood sang at the end of Planet of the Ood, plays as it all happens…I can’t help but smile and get a little teary eyed every time I watch it.
My Lonely Doctor.... Donna's ending is really the saddest of all the companions. Out of the first volume of Doctor Who she really was the best companion for the Doctor. She wanted nothing from him to just travel and be his friend. She loved him enough to stand up to him and yell at him and make him see differently. She was so brave and had the best outlook on every new experience.
Before I saw this episode for the first time, I never would have thought that the word "Binary" would make my heart sink but here we are.
Oh Jules, I want to give you the biggest hug. This episode is the very definition of heartbreak. No matter how many times I've seen this I am always in floods of tears. How this show can go from the dizzy heights of joy to the depths of despair in moments...it leaves me shaken every time. 💔
Remember when I mentioned my first exposure to the revival of "Doctor Who"? This episode aired on the Sci-Fi Channel immediately after "The Stolen Earth," and needless to say I was riveted to my couch. I went through the same emotional rollercoaster with it, even though I was still learning all the companions save for Sarah Jane and K-9. This was what restored my active fandom for "Who." It still took me a while to piece the timeline together, what order the stories were supposed to be in, order of companions, etc. A few months after this I wound up in Qatar per orders from the Army; the cable service had a BBC America channel that played new-"Who," though the order still wasn't set right. It really wasn't until I started collecting the disc sets that the order fell into place.
I realize you're already aware, but I do stress that the journey is not yet over for Tennant's Doctor(s). Now that my own rewatches are caught up with your first-time watches, I'm slowing my roll to sync with yours. Combining my own rewatch with your reviews of your first exposures has become a new favorite pastime for me.
LOL, I love that J-Bird went full Tennat when the regeneration didn't go as she expected... "what... WHat! WHAT?!" 💙 And you weren't alone in cheering for Micky and Jackie showing up. Man I have been bouncing in my chair in anticipation of this reaction vid.
LMAO, Dr. Jr, is in trouble. That is great. Love that Mickey got his time with his gran again and had the sense to take care of himself after Dr. Jr was on board. This was the saddest companion send off since Adric.
J-Bird 🤣 So glad you enjoyed!!
I dont know if you noticed but the song that plays when the Doctor and crew are flying the earth back home is called "Song of Freedom" which is the same song the Ood sung when they became free from the cycle.
It’s wild how you can be brought from tears of joy to tears of heartbreak in a span of a few minutes. Donna is my favorite companion hands down, and this absolutely shattered me. It’s been a joy to experience series four with someone who loves her as much as I do 💙
This coming together of all the beloved characters is just brilliant. When Devros says he recognized Sarah Jane's voice, it is referring all the way back to the 4th Doctor, Tom Baker where she was first one of his companions. The Doctor-Donna was a great concept and shows the chemistry between David Tennent and Catherine Tate and how they can play off each other. This does give you a glimpse at "Torchwood" and "The Sarah Jane Adventures", which I hope you will also get into.
My wife always says that this was the most heartbreaking way for a companion to depart... And she absolutely loved Donna.
This episode in particular shows what an impact music can have on a story. I can cry at the music alone. This and "The Shepherd's Boy" theme (no spoilers) is truly Murray Gold at his best.
Well done Jules. We were all waiting for you to get to The Doctor Donna. It's an emotional roller coaster but one well worth experiencing.
Doctor Donna Friend 😭😭
Rip Wilfred. Im greatful he acted role one last time this last year before he passed away in real life
We've had some sad things happen on Doctor Who, but this one? This one hurt me the most. Donna and The Doctor really were just a perfect duo. Just two perfectly compatible people (in a platonic sense at least) in every single way. And this how this story ends, with a fate worse than death, in a way. Because Donna is brilliant, always has been - but she only fully unlocked her brilliance through her friendship with The Doctor, and now she's lost all of that experience. At least there are people across all of time and space who will tell stories of her. Like the Ood said, "the wind and ice and snow will carry your names... forever." We're all stories in the end, so I don't think any of us can ask for more than that.
Wilf telling the Doctor that he'll look up and think of him on Donna's behalf never fails to break me, and he moment when the Doctor is forced to look back on all those who've sacrificed for him is almost as agonising.
Aside from all of the emotional damage, though, we've got some great moments in this one! I like that Rose gets some proper closure, and the Doctor is free to move on as he always must without worrying about Rose pining after him. The scene where the whole team flies the Tardis together fills me with joy, too!
I also like the implication that Sylvia might learn to be more openly appreciative of her daughter going forwards with what the Doctor told her about how Donna was the most important woman in the universe.
I love this episode but Donna 😢I just can’t 😊
Episode is such an emotional roller coaster first you’re up and happy crying and then you’re down and and sad crying.
Man this episode had it all, it was an emotional roller coaster that had some funny moments mixed with all the serious, dangerous and tough moments along with some sadness sprinkled in. It had an ultimate team up of all the companions we've had from the past 4 seasons (plus sarah jane since she had adventures during the 3rd and 4th doctor's era), the iconic bad guys the daleks, return of the last member of the cult of skaro dalek caan and and old enemy from long ago all the way back to the 4th doctor's era davros. Davros was first seen then and eventually we see him return with the 5th, 6th and 7th doctors aswell. In the end donna was the one who basically died as her memory was completely wiped and just returned as she was before she met the doctor. I loved the interactions evwryone had with each other and the idea of the metacrisis doctor. This is my favourite season ending out of all of them, nothing tops this one
This one still hurts me, from the day it aired here in England; to today. This was a tough watch hahaha. That ending too, normally there’s a tease of a Christmas special, but this just finishes with the Doctor depressed and defeated. His face 😭
NOW I can give my Donna speech I mentioned in one of my previous comments.
“Cause you’re special”
“I keep telling you I’m not.”
“You really don’t believe that do you?”
“Shouting at the world cause no one’s listening.”
Donna is my ultimate favorite companion and that will never change. Everything about her was always so human and relatable. She never thought she was good enough or special or important but being with The Doctor helped her. And her compassion made him better too. We saw it more prominently in Fires of Pompeii and Planet of the Ood but in other episodes too. They were perfect together. The exact definition of platonic soulmates.
Donna’s storyline is also the saddest for me. Even before this episode Rose got to be with her family in a parallel world. Sure she loved The Doctor and was grieving losing him but at the end of the day she was alive and got to be with her family. Martha left willingly to take care of her family, she got engaged and was happy. But Donna…Donna would’ve rather died than let The Doctor erase her memories. She literally begged him not to because she knew what he was going to do. But he didn’t want her to die so he did it anyway. And because of that she’s back to how she used to be before she met him. Never thinking she’s even a little bit important. And the worst part for me was the fact that it wasn’t her choice. I’m happy she’s alive. But it kills me every time when I watch this episode. Seeing her begging him to not take her memories away and not send her back to who she used to be and I just 😢
I love her so much and she honestly deserved better.
This episode came up in my recommended videos. I'm a huge Whovian and loved this reaction. The way you unapologetically allow your feelings to come through is wonderful. I was crying right there with you and your first watch mirrored mine in so many ways. You have a new follow from me. Now to go back and catch up until this point. Until next time, be well.
there is some major foreshadowing to donna’s memory wipe in the episode ‘forest of the dead.’ the scene where donna sees the doctor appear in the library world then disappear and she says, “i saw the doctor!” and doctor moon tells her “yes donna you did, but then you forgot.”
WOAH.... That is true! Wow!
Music treat on my birthday , by Murry Gold ( Song Of Freedom ) , all companions old & New together
in the Tardis , what a happy & Sad 😢 tear Stain epoisode
This episode is a huge emotional roller coaster they make you cry tears of joy when Rose and the Doctor are finally together but then make cry tears of sadness with Donna.
Now THAT is how fan service should be done. Can we have more of this please Russell?!?
Great reaction video as always Jules.
Regarding Series 4 and this feeling like a 'finale', this episode was indeed the last of Series 4 proper. The next few episodes are specials that aired sporadically the year following Series 4 before Series 5 came out. Most streaming services lump said specials in with Series 4.
Just a heads up, if you're ever interested in watching some of the classic stories, please let us know! We'd all be more than happy to give pointers on the best stories to check out. I only bring this up since, if you want to know how Davros and Sarah-Jane knew each other... 'Genesis Of The Daleks'. Nuff said.
"Bernard Cribbins is going to make you cry" My Bad Wolf for you.
This episode always makes me cry these last 3 episodes in my opinion are the best episodes they have had
It was such a great trio of episodes! Series 4 is my favourite, by far!
This episode is simultaneously the happiest and safest at the same time. The goats are balling over Donna, while the ducklings are so happy for Rose. You'd think it would be different because the ducklings are so blue... Lol.
Might is doing good, I still won't let her join us because has two speeds, full ahead and full stop.
We all hope.you have a wonderful day.
Something I really like about this particular series is that we really see the important roles that the Companions have, outside of being there to give the Doctor to exposit to.
In Partners in Crime we see Donna investigate indepedent of the Doctor, and even being the one to accuire the second pill the Doctor needed to save everyone. Similarly in the Doctor's Daughter and Unicorn and the Wasp she discovered vital details the Doctor Missed.
In Pompei and, to a lesser extent the Ood Sphere, Donna provided a sense of empathy to people, convincing the Doctor to save that one family, challenging and pushing the Doctor to ensure he does the right thing.
Turn Left established that, back in the Runaway Bride Donna saved the Doctor, something we also saw with River Song.
Midnight highlights that the companion is a buffer between the Doctor and normal people by establishing what can happen when he doesn't have one.
And Sontaran Strategem, Turn Left and Stolen Earth also establish that, even after their time on the TARDIS ends, many companion continue defending the Earth.
Wilf is the best character ever.
This is indeed the best crossover in tv/movie history… my fav episode (not including spinoffs) is parting of the ways and another episode coming very very very soon, but stolen earth is 3rd place and this whole era of ecclestone and tennant is my favourite tv series of all time and the crossovers in the universe, the wonder, the hope, the comedy and the tragedy all makes it so perfect!
Ive seen this episode a million times, but I’ve noticed until now that original DT Doctor after the DoctorDonna is revealed he never smiles that DoctorDonna figured everything out, because he figured out Dalek Caan’s prophecy that “one of them (companions) would die”, that it would be Donna. That’s why he figures out that Dalek Caan was betraying the Daleks.
I loved your thoughts and comments at the conclusion of this reaction video, Jules.
You are truly a lovely person.
This episode absolutely guts me even after over a decade. It's so crazy how great it is then it destroys you. It's great that you're happy for Donna even if she isn't the same as she was she's still her and deserves the world.
"Davros is insane" I mean he made the Daleks. Where do you think the Daleks got it from?
Hi. I've never seen your channel before but i was recommended this video. Thank you for letting me feel all the feelings of this episode again. You made it a joy.
Oh wow, thank you so much 💜
"I got my happy ending!"
Weeeell....
fun fact every time since this episode Davros has been seen has been before this episode in his timeline meaning as it currently stands that is where he actually dies
If The Stolen Earth was the equivalent of Infinity War, then Journey’s End is very much Endgame.
One sets up the universe shattering implications of all the different groups and strands of this universe coming together, and the other gives some very satisfying emotional payoffs… if you don’t think too hard about some of the gaping plot issues like the reality bomb being undone by flipping a switch or sorely missed opportunities like Rose barely having any screentime with Ten after everything she did to get back to him, but I digress. The point of comparison that matters that it involved a tough victory earned only with the sacrifice of our most beloved character. Everyone coming together to defeat a great evil, on what should be a gloriously triumphant note, instead ends on the most painful, bittersweet conclusion possible. Seriously, if the day ever comes when I can watch this episode without tearing up, someone shoot me because it’s clear I’m already dead inside. Even on this rewatch, on this video, I was still wiping my eyes. Catherine and David *killed it* with this scene and every time I watch it, it’s like I’m 9 and watching this tragedy for the first time all over again.
What REALLY though gets me is the fact that Donna was smiling as she was rambling away and the Doctor was stone faced.
Her human optimism that helped her save the universe let her believe that she could weather this storm and survive but the Doctor knew it could never be. Those simple four words “Because there can’t be” break my heart more than even her sobbing and begging because she understands that she will have to die because of how unstable she is. Yet she would still prefer that than to forget everything she’s seen and done, she would rather die knowing she was the best version of herself rather than live as “just the temp from Chiswick.”
For this, and so many other reasons, Donna was my absolute favourite character of this era and this TARDIS duo remains unmatched for me. I hate it every time it has to end but it couldn’t have ended on a more tragically beautiful, poetic note;
Donna made the Doctor remember why he needed someone.
It was only fitting they should end with her forgetting why she needed him.
Season 4 is probably my favourite too! Donna's development from a small and vain person to the Doctor Donna is EARNED! Rose is back, the stories, companions and characters collide so beautifully! Feels like the ultimate Avengers crossover but so much more!
After Season 2 ended, there were actually plans for a spinoff about Rose called "Rose Tyler: Earth Defence" that would have been set in the other universe and would apparently have had her working with members of that universe's Torchwood, including Jack Harkness, and Adam (the guy who briefly traveled with Rose and Nine in Season 1). BBC even ordered it, but RTD cancelled it because he felt it would have taken away the impact of the Season 2 finale
For me I like Donna the most because she exhibited the best traits of humanity through her run as a companion. I cried just as much my first time watching this episode
This was indeed the end of Series 4, which aired in 2008. The show took a year off - in 2009 we had the specials instead of a full series. Series 5 aired in 2010. 🙂
The specials are absolutely sublime - as is everything that follows! 😀
2008!! My goodness! I was 28 back then. A baby!
@@julesreacts A bleedin' VAMPIRE you are. Aging down under like a fine wine, mercy me. *fans self*
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I'm okay, I just need a minute. LoL
It's all the tasty blood for sure. I'm fighting the urge to delete that sentence as it's just gross 🤣 It must be my 3 cats. That's better.
@@julesreacts No, no, it's pretty hilarious, but if you want to lean towards cats keeping you young with magical purrs and head-boops, I won't push back. LOL
@@julesreacts wait what? *does mental maths ... ... holycrap, i'm 2 years younger and look decidedly geriatric in comparison, corvus here is not wrong.
Companion departures are always hard... but this is certainly one of the most heartbreaking, in the show's entire history.
I think it's telling that two of the four members of the Cult of Skaro turned against the Daleks. A Dalek's function is to obey their commander unquestioningly, and any independent thought is a character flaw to be overcome or stamped out -- except for the Cult of Skaro, whose _job_ was to think; to imagine, so as to better understand their enemies. Of all the Daleks permitted to think, a full half of them thought, _this is wrong._ For Sec, it took being pushed to the brink of extinction for him to imagine that survival was more important than "purity". For Caan, all it took was knowledge. He saw Time; he saw _everything,_ which means he saw the world from a non-Dalek point of view. The lesson of the cult of Skaro is undeniable: the greatest weapons against xenophobia, nationalism, and hatred are thought and knowledge, and the suppression of knowledge and thought is the _only_ way such hatred can exist.
Davros is... an interesting one. The sort of man who will destroy reality itself, for no reason other than to prove that he can. The classic story _Genesis of the Daleks_ gives us a glimpse of the society that produced him, and the audio drama _I, Davros_ expands upon it. Both are worth checking out, if you want more background on the creator of the Daleks.
I'm not surprised by your tearful reaction - this is such a sad ending! :'(
The reason this feels like the end of a series was because it was at the time, really. The show would then go on for a year longer doing, what they called at the time, 'specials'. Due to their production numbers, they often get put onto the end of this series on streaming services and what not.
I said this in the last episode reaction, but you’ve well and truly become one of us! You’ll find some still don’t like Donna, but most of us still think she’s at least one of the best companions of the ‘New Who’ era. Her character arc is the best. Travelling with the doctor properly led her to become more empathetic, smart, and grateful for the life she has, and for that to be taken away in one quick flash is so so heartbreaking
They are singing songs about Donna Noble. they will never forget her.
And neither will we 😭😭
You are my favourite reactor hands down! You always give such thoughtful and smart remarks through out all your videos! ❤️
2:36 Actually it’s ironic considering what the Daleks were based on
"(angrily) This is no longer my happy show!" 😂😂
Why do they make us so sad 😭😭
@@julesreacts Remember, Jules. If a story can invoke such strong emotions, then *it was a good story*
Laughing and crying is part of the Doctor Who experience. Donna's my favorite companion as well. Just brash and cheeky and full of heart always.
Series 4 is my favorite as well, but there are still many many good seasons to come, but this will always be my favorite Season Finale. You've got a lot to look forward too on your Whovian journey. Fun note, ended up meeting a friend while doing some volunteer work who said he was a "Wholigan" rather than a "Whovian".
The actor that played Davros was great at conveying absolute madness 😱
"I degreed...NO MORE!" - How true.
"I get my happy ending"... Oh, you sweet summer child...
it didn't last for long 🤣🤣
So many thoughts on this episode. I LOVE the Children of Time scene where you see how dangerous the Doctor made all his companions, and none of them got it but the Doctor. Even Rose, standing there, applauding the ingenuity and guts of the others. We get used to the hero Doctor, but it's important to remember he's a war criminal many, many times over too.
Rose and the Metacrisis. TARDISes were grown not made, so there is off screen content where the Metacrisis is gifted a cutting of the TARDIS to grow their own. That makes it better, somewhat, but I still kinda feel like nobody really wins. Who says the Metacrisis is happy being part human? (He says it's disgusting at first!) Who says the Metacrisis is still in love with Rose? He says what the Doctor wanted him to say, what Rose wanted him to say, and what the Doctor was trying to say a long time ago. But is it how he still feels? It's very conceivable the Metacrisis feels dumped or like he is in house arrest instead of getting his happily ever after. Rose will always have the option from here on out to tell the Metacrisis he's NOT the Doctor, that the proper Doctor wouldn't do this, that, or the other. Anytime he makes her mad, she can imagine that, and it's not outside the scope of her character to say it to him. Whether she ends up happy or not I think is largely a matter of chance and her own self-discipline. She might also feel that she abandoned the other Doctor sometimes, settled for what was easy. Meanwhile, the Doctor watched the woman he used to love (because I do think he fell a little out of love with Rose over the course of that last episode) go so easily to the Metacrisis. In the end, Rose only offered up a token resistance. Probably a lot of him knew it was better for her to stay with her family in the parallel world. Probably a lot of him knew it would be better for the Metacrisis Doctor to be with her. But you have to wonder if a selfish part of him wanted not to do the sensible, self-sacrificing thing. Wanted Rose to choose him against all logic. In the end, the ending for those three comes across as much more bittersweet to me, heavy on the bitter.
Donna's ending here is just sad. Because Wilf is absolutely right. Donna grew immeasurably as a person in her time with the Doctor, long before the metacrisis. She got braver, more selfless, more giving, and more compassionate. Her mind expanded before any part of the Doctor was ever in it. Donna before the Doctor was a small, silly, self-absorbed, and self-important woman, and not as self-aware as she became with the Doctor either. For the creative, loving, brilliant woman she had become to return to that is it's own kind of tragedy, and it's a further tragedy that Donna will never know what she's lost-in herself and not just in her life, while her family will be all too aware.
Then, of course, the Doctor is still alone, and in a pretty bad way again by the end of the episode. He closed off Rose and the Metacrisis in a whole other universe again-to avoid temptation? Paradoxes?-and his best friend has forgotten all about him. Martha, Mickey, Captain Jack, and Sarah Jane are still his friends, but they've also all moved on. They have work to do and life to live. And he's just lonely. And bitter too now.
I hope you're watching the Doctor Who specials that fall in between this episode and the beginning of Season 5. There are several of them, but they tell an essential part of Ten's story.
My heart hurts watching Jules go through all the emotions. This show truly takes us all on an amazing ride, and the ride isn't over yet. Please keep going.
It's SO emotional 😭😭 I love it so much!
12:30 "How many have died in your name?!" Davros was insane but absolutely right. RIP Bernard Cribbins. Dona Noble's fate is the saddest of all companions of new Doctor Who.
How many have killed? Certainly Ace was very much 7's "hit chick".
One of the best season finales in television, not just for this show.
As someone who, most of the time, hates their own guts, I love Donna so much. "Shouting at the world because no one is listening."
Love your reactions. Love how you put your videos together. While I know you are only able to put in a cropped version, there is still enough of the story line it's not lost.
Thank you!!! I really try hard to keep the story intact for that very reason. I've seen some reactions where it's more like highlights of the episode and the episode just doesn't make sense if you're a first time viewer. I know that most people would have watched it before, many times probably, but I still want it to make sense 💜
"I just feel so good"
The way I just laughed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣