T112 Dual 5600 Electric Scooter Review
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- This is the first of a two part video on the T112+ dual motor scooter. In the second part I'll be showing it in action!
Although sold as the 'T112', I refer to this as the 'T112+' because of the extras. No! the rear mudguard will not break unless you stand on it!
This brute has a 2800W hub motor on each wheel and can be shipped with a choice of lithium batteries according to budget and requirements. I opted for a Chinese 35Ah pack which is more than adequate for my needs.
As standard, it comes with all-terrain 90/65-6.5 tyres, hydraulic 160mm CNC disc brakes, programmable throttle/LCD interface with USB port, front light, tail/brake light, user manual and 2 x remote key fobs, dual charging port and 1 x 2A charger. Options are seat post, angel lights and larger capacity batteries.
All this for well under 1400 USD (plus shipping)!
The seat post can be removed to ride as a kick scooter, but you really don't want to go too fast with it set up like that for stability and emergency braking reasons.
Quoted top speed is 85 km/h and quoted range for the 35Ah battery is 120 kms, decreasing to 80 kms with the 26Ah battery.
Available from Shenzhen FLJ Technology via:
www.alibaba.co...
Company info:
www.flj-scooter...
Original music: 'Neotropolis' ~ Marcus Roberts
That toggle switch for the lights is a genius idea.
Thanks Gary!
Well people I done found my Scooter!
Marcus, that is a BEAST and a half. Congratulations! Be careful on it. Love to read your full evaluation of it on the club's site after you get some drive time.
Dean, I will gladly share with THE FOLDABLE eSCOOTER CLUB
Keep up the good work.
Cheers for now!
Do you have the instructions to that scooter
I was viewing this on Amazon today, would you happen to be driving this still 4 years later? Thanks for any information, just trying to see how long ome might last before neesing regular repairs like my cars
Loving the intro! Cool fretless playing dude.
Ta Chris. I do my best to please!
I love those headlights!
Dear, do you have any user’s manual I can check a noisy beep which doesn’t allow me to start the scooter?
I would appreciate and I lost mine … can’t find it anywhere on the net :(
Thanks in advance
Amazing review
Very kind of you to say, James. Thanks!
does it still works?
Hey man, I’ve been following you and I love your vids, I myself have the T11 52V 2400W scooter , is it possible for you to make a tutorial on how you’ve added the top lights and where you bought them from? (International shipping)
Cheers.
Hi TriggeredScream, very kind of you to say - thanks mate!
I will try to make a video on adding electrical accessories as soon as poss. Thanks for the suggestion.
Meanwhile,
The upper lights are: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B076J5X6DW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I also replaced the lower lights for normal bright white with no outer rim colour or down glow: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0744FQ461/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I used 1 x 20cm extension bar for the upper lights (these are cheap and obtained anywhere): www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07NS1836Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You may also need slightly thicker sleeving to accommodate extra wires: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07PFHDT9K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Finally, some compound to re-waterproof the deck to the main box - if you decide to do it properly and not just chop the wires but completely replace the wires all the way: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CRGJDB2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
At the moment I'm trying to find time to ride the scooter and make a follow up on that.
Cheers!
@@marcusoroberts Hey Marcus, how did you wire these lights in?
Hi Josh. I hope sometime very soon to do a tutorial on this. I changed the standard lower lights and put the extra top lights on a separate circuit and independent switch. I hope to go into more detail soon. Cheers for now.
@@marcusoroberts thanks man. Also, have you ever thought of upgrading the shocks to like a Rockshox - Monarch R 6.5 x1.5" or something like that? Would it fit?
@@JoshStreetDesign I did in fact buy a couple of DV22-22AR shocks from Aliexpress for my other scooter, but never fitted them. They're supposed to be excellent but a little longer at 150mm. Also I'd need to fit bushes to make fit correctly. At the moment the standard shocks are ok. But you're right, it's certainly worth experimenting. Cheers!
What did it run you for shipping. I’m in the USA, Ca seems like it would cost about $600 to ship. Troy
Hi, tracked shipping with insurance cost just over 600 USD to the UK. I might be wrong, but I though I saw an option for free shipping to USA. It took a month to deliver but is quite fun tracking it through so many continents and countries on its journey! To be honest, as the scooter is so cheap, it still works out very much cheaper than most alternatives out there. I can really say that this is built to a good standard and good customer support.
Hola Marcus! Hope is all well! Hasta la vista! 🤗
hi Marcus, wanted to update my story about my T112 that went dead in February, but I cannot find that post anymore.. anyway, the problem was the alarm. It blocked everything, I just got the replacement previous week. But now the display starts misbehaving... I cannot enter to the menu section by holding the 'mode' button longer. I changed the display and still..Jessie Yue simply says it is ok like this...haha. Obviously there is a wire issue, but they dont want to tell which cable might have the damage. Do you have an idea? thanks and Cheers!
Hey sorry for another question. Have you had chance to work on the hydraulic brakes on your T112 scooter? Mine keeps losing brake pressure where I have to squeeze the brake levers all the to barely stop.. I tried turning the screw inside the brake levers to bring the brake pads closer to the disc but it loses pressure after a few days of use. I don't think my brake pads are worn out cause I only put 500 miles on them. It can't be the pads right? Is it the brake fluid problem?
Hiya, it sounds like air in the system. When my scooter arrived, it had a broken left (rear) lever, so the oil leaked out. FLJ kindly sent another for free, but it was one sealed line. So of course you have to remove either end to feed it through the scooter body. I had to bleed the line which usually should be simple, but there is no bleed screw at the lever which complicates matters. I should've done a vid of this at the time but was so impatient to fix it! I subsequently ordered a couple of spare brake systems for front and rear and may next time just run the hoses externally to save all the kerfuffle.
The kit I used (there's probably better and cheaper out there) was this -
Bleed Kit: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073P8M41K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Oil:
www.amazon.co.uk/SHIMANO-Mineral-Oil-Disc-Brakes/dp/B001EOQ186/ref=cts_sp_2_vtp
I am looking at alternative brake systems, not that there is anything wrong with th standard brakes, just that priming the oil is just awkward!
@@marcusoroberts Thanks. I can't open the links you gave me. Yeah you're right the brake system on these scooters seem awkward..it doesn't seem easy as brake systems on other more expensive scooters.. I don't know how to bleed this scooter I feel bummed 😐 Thank you anyway.. if you do come across a new brake system and decide to upgrade please do share on video! Thanks always..
What was the converter you got? And what is it for? And where can i buy one, i want my scooter just like yours.
Is there a chance to turn off the colored led lights?
No option. I bypassed this and added a waterproof toggle switch on side of battery compartment to choose if I wanted those side panels to flash. I usually switch off
Hi Marcus, what difference do you think there is between the chinese noname and for instance the LG batteries that they offer for this scooter? I know the lg stands up for more recharging cycles, but is there difference in performance? In addition are these batteries replacable by any batteries that you can find in local stores? For instance you want different brand and/or AmH? Many thanks
Hi there. At the end of the day they are all made in China. You pay for the name. But LG/Panasonic make packs with large Amp hour capacity. Quality is comparable . The BMS is identical.
Do you know where to get a battery replacement for this T112 model?
Yes, flj-scooter.com/ or plenty available on Aliexpress. You will find one and go for the Panasonic version but all are good.
The battery should in theory last a long time
Hi Marcus, do you think climbing steep hills with this scooter is killing the controllers?
Hi Balazs, yes absolutely the greater the load the more current drawn from the controller and the Mosfets have to pump (switch on/off) faster, which increases heat. The controller on my T112 only failed once and that was uphill. Now I have upgraded the heatsinking it has never failed again.
I Love It. Nice video!
Too kind! Thanks very much. I hope to upload a follow up video showing endurance. Cheers.
Hi Marcus, have yoe ever experienced any louder sound than normal from the engine controller? Typically when it is in ECO mode and low, decent speeding(among pedistrians or so). Sometimes it is soo loud and even shakes me through the scooter with its resonance...maybe it is dying? :o
Hiya, no not noticed any louder sound using any setting either on or off. Do you mean the controller, or perhaps the motor? This is really interesting. Never heard of this...
Hi Marcus, hope you are doing great. My T112 has constant remote alarm issues. The first one become dead in a month, the next one is unstable, sometimes it takes 2-3min to turn it off, so i dont dare to use it anymore. Therefore I would change it to a normal classic ignition key system. Do you think it is possible somehow? Jessie at FLJ said it is only possible before production (which I had asked but they ignored). Thx in advance. Is your t112 still in shape btw?
Hi, thanks for your comment, hope you are well too. So is the issue you are unable to lock or unlock your T112 via the remote key fob? Is there an issue with the movement alarm? I think rewiring to a key ignition is certainly possible, it's a time consuming project. Can you be more specific why you need to do this please?
@@marcusoroberts Thanks for the reply. Actually it is simply unstable. I had to exchange it already as it did not unlock at all(flj confirmed it needs to be changed), and now it unlocks for 5-10th trying, it seems it doesnt sense the button presses constantly just randomly. So i simply dont dare to lock it anymore as I dont want to stuck in the city or so..instead i use manual padlock on the wheels but it is time-consuming most of the time. So I believe the main question is that which wire does what. 3wires comes from the alarm itself. I guess red is +, black is -, and blocking (?) signal is on the orange wire. But i have no even guessing for the control panel wires. Thanks a lot for your thoughts in advance.
Are you still driving it?
Do you know if the rear suspension are adjustable?
I think mine is too soft, every little bump makes me think i didnt btoke anything
Or how to do it?
Hi, no it's not possible to adjust the rear suspension unfortunately. But the good news is if you remove and get the measurements, there are many good alternatives on AliExpress and Alibaba. The measurements don't have to accurate to the nearest mm, as you can use additional washers/spacers if it needs padding out. There are a number of adjustable versions that will fit. I personally find the standard one ok.
Thanks for response 👍 do you have any link for right one?
@@mafale hi, no the links do change quite often. Just a search for electric scooter shock absorber/suspension should give you results on either of those Chinese sites. It's a subjective thing and I wouldn't want to recommend something that doesn't match your expectations for a good ride.
Hello Marcus, I am not sure what you are saying about the extra lights you ordered with the scooter, are they red glowing? :) so you dont recommend to order this lights flj provides with it? Thanks
Hi, no it's still worth getting the angel lights, but they have a red glowing ring around the outside. Not a good idea to have anything red on the front ofa vehicle. It means that becuse they are already pre-wired, you can easily replace them with 'all white' ones cheaply bought from eBay. I had to add extra wiring for the top handlebar lights I added. Those ones are REALLY bright but do have a small red glow shining on the ground, so I only used on very dark roads.
Ahh, i see now. Thanks for clarification. I see how powerful your new addons at 0.21...truly bright. :) do you have their title/link to find at ebay? I would trust your choice than get a random one. :) also moved towards to flj from viper because of your video. So flj owes you. :)
Just found your previous post with the links to another guy! I ll use that! Thanks Man!
Maybe u can help me understand something. The battery. I see some are 26ah and others are 38.8ah. Will the battery reflect speed or just the distance u can travel?
Hi, yes as a rule of thumb the voltage is directly proportional to speed and amp hour rating is related to endurance and distance. The payback is weight, as a 42Ah battery is significantly heavier than a 26Ah pack
Hi Marcus, did you simply open up the top surface/pedal of the scooter to install the gps unit? I cannot think another position for it than beside the battery...thanks!
Yes that's exactly what I did. I bought a DC-DC buck converter with a built in USB socket to step down from 60v to 5v so that the tracker is permanently charged and cannot be removed easily. On another scooter I screwed the bracket of the tracker under the saddle but have to remove everyday to charge it. Also could be removed by a thief if they look for it.
Marcus Roberts thanks for the info! Do you have the link for that buck usb unit? Another issue. Do you experienced the saddle moving couple of mm up and down? Certainly i dont mean the normal damping from spring under the saddle, but more down in the middle of the column/tube, behind the ruber cover. There is the point where the thiner upper tube goes into the wider lower tube. And between the two tubes there is a white plastic ‘space-filler’...so when I seat on the saddle with full weight it slides down few mm and than back. Hard to think that is part of the normal damping procedure as the factory claims...they say every scooters from them have this thing. For me it gives rather unstable feeling which might be worse by time...
@@balazsszentesi6360 This is the one I got with female USB:
fulree.en.alibaba.com/product/60719092302-805148202/2018_Trending_Products_Car_USB_Charger_12V_8_80V_to_5V_DC_Converter_for_Mobile_Phone.html?spm=a2700.icbuShop.41413.13.51027903J50Alq
It's a very reliable converter and hasn't caught fire!
I've not had any problems with the seat post or saddle. I did change the post for a nice light one from Zoom (not sure which one it's not written on it. Standard 27.2 fitting. Also added a light Brooks B17 Champion Special saddle, which looks awesome!
Hi Marcus, have you ever tried to ‘dial back motors’ setting? P8 in menu. Any experience? What setting you would use for steap roads and flat ones if you ride just normal eco speed?many thanks!
Hi Balazs. No, I've always kept it at 100%, that way to have the power immediately available and attenuate via eco. I would say that to prolong the life of the rear controller, I now use more in dual motor mode most of the time, so it distributes the stress and heat evenly. Also using the electronic gears to regulate the power works better than trimming down the p8 setting
Marcus Roberts Wow Marcus, really precious info, thanks a lot! I set it to 50% to save battery life, that might be the reason to have suffering noises from the controllers...:o. What do you mean on electronic gears? Is that another setting maybe?
@@balazsszentesi6360 yeah if you press the 'Power' button for a short time when the scooter is on, you will see a flashing 1, 2 or 3. Hit the mode button to select the electronic gear. This is like a speed limiter on a car. I keep mine in '3' all the time and just use the Eco button to attenuate. It's far quicker than toggling those electronic gears!
Hi Iahve 11 52V 2400W scooter and the Back brake souinds.... when i drive and it wont brake anymore... you guys have any idea?
It probably only needs adjustment see here:
ruclips.net/video/0K2M9NrlSDc/видео.html
you've heard of a trampoline right... means no jumping on basically, and if it comes with a warning I would say it could be a bit more sturdy than it is... I mean you wouldn't buy a monster truck that came with a warning that says no mud. of course not. there must be a vulnerability.
I thought my new machine was big... that thing is a monster! How much does that thing weigh?
I think it's around 40-45 kg. It's mostly all the battery cells!
hi Marcus, did you get your scooter with adjustable handle? i read some ppl has issue it becomes loose by time at the T-element. if it is fixed height, can you reach it from the seat and standing too comfortable?
bonus question: can you ride the normal street safe with off road tyres? cheers Man!
Sorry I have no idea what you mean about T-Element. You have to talk to the manufacturer. Regarding street tyres, yes the off-road tyres can slow you down slightly, but I prefer them to street tyres. The off road tyres will make it slower for sure, but much less prone to punctures.
Marcus Roberts thanks Marcus, and sorry for the confusing. I meant do you suggest to have fixed handle bar or the adjustable one that you can request from flj as an extra? which type do you own? A guy complained (cant find the post anymore) that the adjustable started to move back and forth few mm (bacame loose) which is quite annoying and suggested to stick to the fixed handle. So I was curious if the happened due to his intense usage or it is a general issue.
Manufacturer claims that all is perfect..:)
@@Rastinfilm Hi, no all handle bars are adjustable for any electric folding scooter. There is no choice. Even the Dualtrons have adjustable handle bars. Once you lock into position, they stay fixed until you unlock and move or adjust. Hope that helps.
Marcus Roberts hi Marcus, that is intersting. i am in a chat with flj and they would charge 20 more for adjustable version..otherwise it comes with so called fix bar...the complaining guy i mentioned also suggest in his comment to stick to the fix version. anyway soon i will tell you my feelings, experiences..:)
@@Rastinfilm the T112 handlebars adjust. How high/low do you want them?!! If you're over 7 feet or below 4 feet tall you might have a problem.
Hello,
do you have any play in the stem? Is it wiggly?
Hi there. I did initially have the same problem but tightened the 3 hex bolts at the bottom of the stem. You might need to add a drop of Threadlock to stop vibrations working them loose. Your problem might be different ...
Hey there. I have an FLJ T113 but it broke, so I want to buy a new one. The rear splash guard broke off. And despite the scooter broke, the company is great. I really think that the T112 has a better damping system, which is why I consider buying it. But it costs over 2000$. So how did you get it for 1400$. I always thought it's only possible to buy on Alibaba as a company or with a huge amount of the product. On Aliexpress, it costs as much as I mentioned earlier. Thanks for your answer.
Yes I think you're right about the T113 suspension. This absorbs the shocks very well. Yeah this scooter cost exactly £1368 + £638 shipping. This includes the seat and 35Ah battery. It was my first experience of Alibaba and was quite happy with it. I also thought you had to buy lots of items, but they class this as a 'sample'.
So how did you purchase? Did you write them an e-mail? And why did you then paid only 1400$? Would you recommend to buy rather on Alibaba than Aliexpress?
@@ToHaru-Chan I quoted the incorrect price; it was $1368 + $270 shipping (all USD). The first step I made was to press the 'Contact Supplier' button. They'll message you back and you tell them the spec you want. If you agree, then it takes you to a payment page. Hope that helps!
Marcus, I got the same scooter you do and need to bleed my brakes, can you please make a video showing how to bleed the brakes please?
Hi Joseph. This is an excellent suggestion and believe me, I was wanting to make a vid on this as I was doing it myself. But the whole process was also new to me so was messy to start with.
I have ordered some new brake systems as spares, and it will be easier to show using these rather than buggering around and experimenting as I did - although the my brakes work superbly - exactly how hydraulic brakes should. When the brake hose systems finally arrive (from China) I will make a vid.
Meanwhile, it might be worth investing in this bit of kit which is what I used: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B073P8M41K/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And oil: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01CQVJXIA/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You might even figure it out yourself before I make a vid on it!
Cheers Joseph.
@@marcusoroberts Thanks for the reply Marcus, I guess I was just wondering where to start, most brakes show that you can unscrew over by the brake handle and fill it from there, but I didn't see any screws.
I'm not really looking for the whole process, but if you can just show where you started, and the next step after that, I can pretty much take it from there. No need to get your hands messy.
@@Joseph.Carrion There is unfortunately only one bleed valve, which is on the caliper. You obviously have to pump the oil from there so it works up - air rises! Prime the brake lever with oil and keep horizontal. Use the syringe to pump oil up. Clamp it shut at the caliper. Squeeze the brake lever and keep it like that (cable tie or strap). Ensure oil is peeping out from the lever. Then connect the hose to the lever, Squeeze the lever so it creates pressure. Pump oil from the caliper until it comes out at the lever then gradually tighten each bolt.
Look, it is actually easier to watch than to write. It's a case of pump up the air bubbles and pressurising.
@@Joseph.Carrion Can I ask, why do you need to bleed the brakes? Did the scooter arrive with a damaged hose? Has it leaked oil or are the brakes not very responsive?
@@marcusoroberts The brakes feel soft, and I noticed a red/pinkish fluid at the back wheel near the caliper. On inspection, I saw there was a nut that was loose and I guess that's where it was leaking from.
So I tightened the nut and the leaking stopped but the brakes still feel soft. It wasn't a really BIG leak, but it was enough for me to stop riding my scooter because I wasnt getting the stopping power needed.
I already ordered the bleed kit and have to wait until it gets here.
Does anybody have instructions to this scooter
Yes, I attached these below in pdf from a year ago. You will have to look, or might be the other T112 vid. Sorry I don't have time to reup. I will have put the manual in the comments section.
Hi great vid, where can I buy this in the UK ? also do they offer any warranty or have a spare parts back up. I understand this scooter can be ordered direct from Alibaba, but presumably, as they are the manufacturer, they are in China. Any info gratefully received. john.
Hiya John, thanks for watching and your kind comment. As far as I know, this isn't available in the UK unfortunately. However I can say that FLJ who sell this via Alibaba are superb with spares, advice and warranty. Very approachable and responsive. My scooter arrived with a broken rear hydraulic brake connection on the left lever. They immediately arranged to send a replacement at no cost and arrived in a week. Also, you can buy spares directly through them using PayPal or card. I ordered some spares just in case. You can contact them through WhatsApp which they seem to like. I was rather stupid buying the Viper scooter. Less than half price from China! Also the UK service and support is simply dreadful Hope that helps. Please feel free to ask any questions. Cheers, Marcus.
@@marcusoroberts Thanks for your swift reply, very helpful, can I assume you can spec. a scooter to exactly what you want (extra lights, best battery option etc etc) ? and finally I guess Pay Pal would be the best and safest option ? By the way did I read somewhere on the net, that they now have a warehouse in France, thus reducing UK delivery times ? John.
@@assettrader1587 hello John. I wasn't aware of a warehouse in France .. Meanwhile FLJ can indeed customise a scooter to your requirement. This includes all the flash gimmicks but more importantly battery; always 60v but differing in working amperage from a home grown Chinese up to 35Ah to a 42Ah LG brand. I have the former which is very adequate but have ordered the LG because I'm never happy! They can pretty much do what you request - which is more than you can expect from any UK service. Don't forget to include a seat post!
I changed all the lights and added additional ones as soon as I received it, so you might want to specify what lighting/extra lighting you want or it involves a bit of rewiring later...
@@marcusoroberts HI again Marcus, I was all set to order a T112 Dual, then I saw your latest vid, featuring the faulty controller, you seem to be able to diagnose a fault, locate the problem, then know where to get the parts, and fix it. My knowledge of electronics is zero, let alone how to go about sorting a problem. Many people say the big recurring problem with Chinese and other far Eastern products, is that the electronics are the weak spot. I am sure many potential buyers who like me, do not possess your commendable skill set, are put off by this aspect of E scooters. John.
Hi there I wanted to ask that I have a electric scooter ( JMS 500 ) top speed 40km . I want to increase the top speed what can I do ?
How far does you budget go? I mean start from the ground up with a battery 35aH. Get a 27 MOSFET controller. I believe you have only 1 motor, in which case it's a simple swap. If you want speed over range, change the controller. Range will suffer if you don't swap the battery.
Mine won't start off the charger, plugged in it shows 100% battery, but the system is dead as a doornail when I take it off. I left it on the charger for months checking every week to make sure I was topped off. To my surprise when I pulled it off the chargers it became unresponsive. I better do a teardown and check the voltage under the BMS.... "I seriously hurt my back at work and couldn't lift the scooter up the stairs." it cost me about 4k to get this scooter with the cost of shipping being absolutely insane. I am sad beyond words my baby is dead.....
The scooter cost 4K? Wow! In any currency that is huge. Anyway, wish I could help but that sounds like you bought a Dualtron X by the price of it!
You couldn't lift the scooter up the stairs.
Hello, thanks for the video. It just caught my attention that you mentioned you had already (mistakenly) bought viperscooter... actually I have been considering buying it too until i saw your note. Also I never had answers from viperscooter guys to my questions..On the other hand this scooter looks really similar to their(viper)model, but maybe the C-type suspension is better in terms of absorbing as I tends to use on very bumpy roads and even unpaved roads..how heavy this chinese scooter is? Do you see other differences to vipers too? Sorry for the lots of questions.:) cheers, val
Btw you forgot to mention that 1400 plus shipping but you have to pay custom fees and vat too..so the price will be much higher in the end..or?
Hi Balazs. For this scooter it was $1368 + $270 shipping and ALL taxes. So the total cost was $1638 and it arrives at your door. Almost every scooter will either come from a Chinese or South Korean company. I can say that FLJ are very responsive and most helpful (more so that Viper scooters).
Yes the T112 is much more rugged than the Viper, and much cheaper.
Hi Marcus, thanks a lot for the nice response. Have ever considered a smaller motor on this (if they have such model at all)? It seems a bit dangerous, especially as there is only this 'handle/small stick throttle' instead of proper 'pull-throttle (with the handgrip like on big motor cycles). Wouldn't you think the pull throttle version is more safe as you can give power more gentle than just grabbing the arm...viperscooter has pull throttle and foldable seat on the other hand...cheers
sorry, just noticed it IS foldable with this one too. :) but the pull throttle would be really a nice touch in my oppinion. Or could it be modified at home maybe...?
Wow you have the 5600 so you can probably get 55mph on yours. I have the 3600 and Im getting 45mph. Trust me at first I was upset that I didn't get the 5600, bit after riding. Hell noooooooo, 45 feels like you may die anytime, imagine 55.... Yep, dont want it 45 scares me enough.
Yes you are so right! 3600 is plenty enough. Above 45 mph DOES get too scary! Cheers buddy.
Wish i had a group to ride with!!!😭 By the way if y'all interested I stay between South Beach and Las Olas fort Lauderdale. If you would like to see what it looks like
@@Mad-Arawak check out this forum and put a shout out dude:
groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/the-foldable-escooter-club
@@marcusoroberts No problem, I got you!!!
I got the solar ff limeted edition its 3200w and its been followed by a car and speed gun it can hit 60mph but I don't weigh much lol
what's the top speed that you can get with 5600w?
Thanks for the question. I am taking everyday this T112 to work everyday this week, a return trip of 19 miles. I hit 37 mph easily on single motor. On dual motor motor i achieve on a relaxed throttle 49 mph easily but over 55 mph I start worrying about bumps in the road. I am still getting used to it and am trying to compile a video. The only obstacle is my nerve, and sudden holes in the road! Please stay tuned.
@@marcusoroberts Did you test it with gps (on your phone) or with the lcd? Because sometimes the speed of the lcd isn't good. I read a review on aliexpress of this scooter and the guy said he can only get 40mph on gps :S
@@CFlenox Hi, yes I measured against 2 different GPS devices and both measure 40mph but this is only with 1 motor. I haven't yet tried with both motors but suspect 50moh+ is possible. I have calibrated the LCD against the GPS using the wheel size settings. I hope to upload a speed vid soon!
Marcus Roberts Thanks you Marcus! I ordered the same with 29ah battery. My first scooter was Speedway mini 4 that does 26mph. It was time to upgrade ;P
@@CFlenox that's a good move. Nothing wrong with the Speedway but the T112 is better. Just to clarify that it can go 40mph on single motor but it's best cruising at 37mph
Hey I been watching your channel for a while I order the same flj T112 scooter it’s on the way now I just want to ask how is it still I’m excited I’m getting one it’s a 35ah battery also
Great stuff! Let me know how it goes. I also have a 42Ah battery but never needed to swap it. The 35Ah is sufficient.
Marcus Roberts definitely will
Hey it finally came omg it’s so amazing but I need to ask you where can I get the lights you have on the handlebar and the seat the seat.. I like how u customize ur bottom lights with your own kill switch
Marcus could you contact me I have some questions on what I will need to do to repair my scooter .
Jerry could you be a little more precise please? Will try to help.
Hi Marcus, do you know if I can put a mirror INto the handle bar at the very end of it? It seems i cannot mount anthing around the bar at the end of it because of the grip, so i would choose a model that goes inside the tube, if possible. If yes, do you know the inner diameter of the handle bar tube?thanks a lot!
Hiya. Yes, I've 2 different makes of bar end mirror. Both types are really good. I switched to RYDE CARBON UNIVERSAL MOTORCYCLE 22MM 7/8" BAR END MIRRORS 'cos they have a cool carbon finish. No sure of the diameter of the scooter hole, but any motorcycle bar end mirror will fit as long as you cut the hole out in the grips. You can get from eBay and Amazon. Also The Cateye BM-500 mirror is really good. They stay in place and won't jiggle around. Also good quality. I actually swapped my grips for some really cheap foam ones because they're more comfortable. You can get from Halfords and cut to length.
Marcus Roberts hey, thanks, sounds cool! Actually I was happen to be checking that Ryde mirror..:) just wasnt sure if it fits in firmly or will it be flimsy..I am also thinking to get a bar end mirror with flash indicator if I can get 12V out of the battery.. but I guess all LEDs operate on that voltage,right? www.ebay.com/itm/Round-7-8-Bar-End-Rearview-Mirrors-With-Turn-Signals-light-For-Honda-Harley/264263792157?_mwBanner=1&ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11051.m43.l1123%2F7%3Feuid%3Dab884744b7854535a4dbf1d3a0dcf217%26bu%3D44190564968%26loc%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fitm%252F264263792157%26sojTags%3Dbu%3Dbu%26srcrot%3De11051.m43.l1123%26rvr_id%3D0%26rvr_ts%3D4a54d0de16e0a4cc44f7363efff79cf7&ul_noapp=true&pageci=7cec9c89-b148-4e0f-8ad2-4e64db6ddc3f
Hello, yes the Ryde mirrors are really solid once you plug into the bar end and tighten. I also was thinking about something like 12v indicators you show. You can use a DC-DC buck converter cheap from eBay to step down from 12v. I use one at 5v to run my GPS tracker unit. Problem is you still need a switch and possibly a relay, unless it comes with one...? What I recently did was mount a bar extender on the handlebars and mount a pair of bar end Cycl Winglights V3. Really bright indicators. Problem is you can't see them very well from behind the scooter.
Marcus Roberts I found indicator switches on aliexpress that fits on the handle bar nicely. Do you have a gps tracker that has sim card that can call you when there is an issue? This is what I am looking for but still no satisfying solution(tracking but no calling me as an alarm...)
Yes there is room for a switch, I added an extra switch for the big lights. You can step down the voltage. That's not the problem. But you need to have a switching relay. That controls the flashing on/off speed. The indicators you are watching are replacements for motorcycle/mopeds. Without the correct timing relay, the indicators will either be fully on or fully off - unless you move the switch on and off very quickly to make them flash!
Im kind of new to this. How can this do 85 kmh max, when other scooters with 2000w will to 100kmh?
There is absolutely no way that a 2000w scooter can reach anything close to 100 kmh. Even the 96v 8000w Racing Recon won't get close to that. What I can say though, is that I've still not verified the top speed with both motors engaged on the T112. With the single rear motor (2800w), I've confirmed against 2 different GPS measurements that 40 mph is easily achievable. Whoever claims that 100 kmh is possible with only 2000w is measuring this wildly inaccurately. Hope that helps.
@@marcusoroberts oh okay thanks! Just considering what to get:)
@@spyropyro3159 whichever one you might decide to get, in sure you'll love it! Only thing I'd say is always only go for the direct hub drive scooter rather than chain drive. Cheers!
Hi Marcus!!! Im using two similar scooters, T 112 from FLJ and another one newer from Dogma company both 11 inches wheel. Unfortunately both of them have the same problem with frequently happen flat rear tires. But it is not a punctuation, it is the spontaneous bursting of tubes inside the tyre without any exterior factors. After 100 or 200 miles they break spontaneously, so I have to buy new one and replace them very often, every month , let say. I weight 220 lbs so I guess it is related to my mass. So I want to ask you if you have similar experience and if yes how you deal with it? I even bought a special liquid that you pour inside inner-tube but still, the problem persist!
Hi Pawel, no it's not your weight. Which tyres are you using? Road tyres; all terrain; off road? Are you ensuring they are kept at 50psi? That is very important. I replaced the dust caps on both tyres for these.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-Car-Valve-Tyre-Caps-Dust-Monitor-Wheel-Pressure-50-PSI-Tire-Air-Sensor/253533585123?hash=item3b07c77ee3:g:JVUAAOSwRoxXngQd
So I only need to look at the cap to ensure correct pressure. Don't buy the gunk to fill the tyre 'cos if you do have a puncture, the rim will be a completed mess!
Hi Pawel, You are satisfied with T 112 from FLJ
It might be fast acceleration causing intense friction between the inner tube and the outer tyre. Perhaps consider setting to slow start in the parameters. I have only had one puncture on any scooter since 2014.
@@marcusoroberts Hi. Thx for reply! Im using both off road tires but only rear one gets frequently punctuated. You are right, I may not keep enough pressure in the rear therefore inner-tube is prone for it. So, keeping pressure at 50 psi all the time is a key for a trouble -free ride!!
@@sandorsebestyen8620 I have been using it for almost 1.5 year and I rode around 5000 km on it so far .It still works great. Chinese battery holds charge without any problems although I estimate around 20% loss of range since day one. It has some other problems with rear fender, it consistently breaks itself without reason, besides , it is too short so when you ride in a rain and I do it very often , your back get wet immediately. Otherwise, it is a good scooter for a daily commute , very fast 45mph and reliable with good range.
I just received mine via Fed Ex today. To my disbelief there was no padding in the box at all, and the lights were all bent to hell. But what's even worse is the rear motor does not work, and when you pull the trigger it makes a loud grinding sound in the battery compartment. I am PISSED!!!!!! All this money for a hundred pound paperweight. UGH
That would piss anyone off, understandably. Did you get the T112 from FLJ directly or from Alibaba?
@@marcusoroberts I got it from FLJ on Alibaba. They have an account. I dealt directly with Jessie Yue
I fixed it BTW...There was a blue wire loose to the controller. THis thing is FAST! The front tire peels out every time I hit the accelerator. Question, did you have to calibrate the speedometer? Also, have you ever thought about upgrading the shocks to actual air shocks? Do you think 150mm would work instead of 125s?
@@JoshStreetDesign Great news! I set P0 to 10 which seems close enough to GPS speed. I bought some really great 150 shocks for my Evo scooter and might transfer them to the T112 to see if it improves the ride. Although TBH I find the standard shocks pretty reasonable for the moment.
@@marcusoroberts When you have yours in single motor mode, does the back tire peel out when you start like the front tire does in dual mode? Mine doesn't, and in fact I feel like the back motor is only putting out half the power that the front wheel does. The front wheel tears up everything as soon as I hit the accelerator, but if I'm in single motor mode and riding in grass, the thing will barely move, and going up hills, forget it. If get off the scooter and see if it'll do like burnouts in the loose dirt it by leaning it to the side it won't even do that. My friend has one similar and his back wheel does burnouts like crazy independent of the front wheel. And his is only 3200 watts, mine is 5600. Do you think it could be the controller given that problem I had in the beginning with the arc'ing in the controller box?
Top speed? Drive it!! Let's see. Offroad it
I fully intend to do exactly that very shortly! Cheers.
Are you still happy with it? Any issues thus far? I just ordered one. Any recommendations
Funny you should say that...the controller for the rear motor has just died. I've ordered a new pair for front and rear. Strictly speaking it should be covered by the guarantee. I've had a controller go on another scooter. Not a big deal. I'm doing a vid on replacing it. You will love the scooter though!
Marcus Roberts wow that’s disappointing given the $$ for it. Yes should absolutely be covered under warranty. Did they refuse to take responsibility ?
If you don’t mind me asking, will you be getting a higher rated controller? Are the ones already installed too low?
@@Steelbee No they are very good at FLJ and are sending a new one for free. I paid for a front one as a spare for around $35 as well as a couple of other bits e.g. brakes. I'm currently taking the broken controller apart as I'm sure one or more of the MOSFets have blown, Usually the case - they get very hot! I'll see if I can get more of those somewhere for the future.
@@Steelbee still 37A controller, but I have a bluetooth controller which is rated at 40A. You can use a phone app to change each setting to a very fine granularity. I've had it a couple of years but never tried it, but might give it a bash.. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/36v-48v-60v-72v-40A-BT-PROGRAMMABLE-E-BIKE-ELECTRIC-BRUSHLESS-MOTOR-CONTROLLER/163805923493?hash=item26239808a5:g:GLAAAOSw-NBdS0Iw
Where you buy your lights from
Can't remember if it was Amazon or eBay, but if you search U7 Cree LED lights you will find them. They work up to 60v and are very reliable even in the rain. Try to avoid the ones that glow underneath. They look a little silly!
@@marcusoroberts yeah it looks dope actually, but thanks i seen them on ebay. How long did it take to get your scooter?
does I have rear suspension?
Hi, yes it is a single shock absorber and works very well. I guess you could replace it but for me it works really well for the last 2 years.
the only suspension I saw is at front. the back I don't know if there is. I'm concern about the back. thank you for answering
@@jienceljoybautista6448 Yes, the suspension is actually very good, both front and rear. Also, it is a universal fitting so you could replace or upgrade, but I don't you will need to.
thank you so much,
I'm looking on it on lazada if you are familiar.. but I'm not sure if it's legit seller
@@jienceljoybautista6448 FLJ have a European supplier now. I can't remember the link, but they are reliable. You have to search. I bought spares from them for 2 years now. They are good.
Dear T-112 Users, could anyone send me a link to a video that shows the display of the scooter while you pressing the 'mode'button long, entering to the menu? many thanks!
Do you mean the options in the menu?
ruclips.net/video/5gNWZ9WOKtY/видео.html
Marcus Roberts yes, thank you very much for the link! btw can you tell what does CH stand for in the display?
CH is the sleep time for the display to hibernate. I think it's defaulted to 2 hours unless there is activity.
Hi I have a 3200w scooter my mosfet have gone like yours my controller is a 60v 37 ah controller what mosfet do I need???? Do I need 60v 37ah mosfet
Hi Peter, you need a NCE85H21C Mosfet. I've only found them so far from Alibaba or Aliexpress. They are very cheap to buy and its' best to replace all of them and beef up the heatsinking when replacing.
@@marcusoroberts
Do u have any u could sell me so they would be here quicker please
What controller did u fix what volt and ah was it please
@@peterhosker4395 I do have a large bag of them, but I wouldn't be able to guarantee the integrity as they have not been stored in an anti-static environment. Every component would need individual testing.
@@marcusoroberts Any chance u could test 12 and send them or send me a few and i will test them. We're are u are u in UK??
Hi Guys, just wanted to let you know my first ride with that scooter was a failure. Having ride approx 5km (some steap roads as well) it shut off completly. Without any signes, in the middle of the street. It was fully charged(29wH)kept in warm room before and outside is 8 celsius. I am quite disappointed. Now the scooter sleeps on the street. Contacted the factory, i will update if I get further news, have no idea what could go wrong :(
That's not good news, sorry to hear that. It's also a T112?
Marcus Roberts yeap, actually I followed you every steps of the way :) except i ordered smaller noname battery to it.Maybe this is the issue.I charged only twice so far, and used indoor only to get familiar with the feeling before i fell apart outside :). Or do you think it is the controller?Alarm went on after shutting(draining?) down but was not able to turn it off again.
@@balazsszentesi6360 does the LCD display work? Also, when you select dual motors, there is no power to front and back motors?
Marcus Roberts nope.LCD is dead too. Only alarm is on which gives siren but unlocking is not possible(therefore I have no access to the motors). I have access to charge the battery again on Monday so I can measure voltages and so..I started regretting not ordering the highest available battery :(
@@balazsszentesi6360 ok and you used the correct sequence on the key fobs and tried both to unlock the scooter? Sorry to ask, I'm sure you have already checked this....
Range capacity?
It varies tremendously according to your weight, terrain and how much you pull the throttle. With single motor only, 3rd (top) speed, regen braking set to '1' and riding with full throttle and I always have lights I can get 40 miles before the battery indicates approximately 30% remaining. This is at an average speed of between 30-35mph. This is riding full power on slight gradients. It might do more, but I don't want to push it home again if it runs out! I have ordered a 42Ah LG battery which should considerably increase the range - this is actually a larger capacity than the Dualtrons. Hope this helps.
But I need to test with both motors at a lower throttle setting, possibly in 2nd speed. It decreases the load on the controllers and needs less throttle.
T108 ?
Yes it is similar, but only 3600w (2 X 1800) motors and only 26Ah battery as standard.
Yea, maybe the tail won't break on that model. But it will on the T113. I have it. That's a fact.
I cannot comment on the T113 as I don't have one. I can only state as you see, I can sit on my T112+ at well over 40mph.
Oh, it just drops off, snaps if you stand on it? What happens to the rear fender, I am curious now?
@@marcusoroberts Just from riding regularly, it will eventually just snap in half. it's inevitable. There's nothing to support it from dangling up and down, like on yours. As a result, the metal will erode just from riding over reasonable bumps. It also goes up to 40mph. Rides good don't get me wrong. However, I'm having too much issues with the battery. I had two of them and they both only lasted me for about 5 months each. And that's from regular use, no tweaking. The left shock is also a death trap. That thing snapped off on me while riding. thankfully, i was going slow. I think the way they built it is pretty stupid. The shock is connected to the break, so it pulls it inward every time you brake. and again, resulting in the metal wearing out and sapping in half. just be careful man. your's is build differently, so it may be safer. then again, they are cheaper alternatives to a dualtron or weped, which I'm saving up to get right now.
@@v_tha_sapien5742 The Fender on this T112 definitely isn't breaking. It's SOLID.
The battery compartment is like a bird nest.... This will surely leads to problem in the future.
Unfortunately there is no neat way of looming the cables and wires in such a compact space. I hate untidy wiring too, but believe me even the scooters worth £2500+ are the same. Also makes it easier to fault find quickly. The only thing you have make sure of is to label all the wires with idents before you take anything off.
I got my T112 today. Where the fuck are the charging ports? Cant find it :(
As you sit on the scooter, they're on the right hand side near the front of the battery box.
@@marcusoroberts Thanks i found it. Dont know why i couldnt see it because you can clearly see it after you know where it is 😂
Another question. How much BAR for the tires? 3 bar enough?
@@gurkenhals2795 should be 50 psi or approx 3.4 bar. 3 bar is 43 psi, slightly low.
@@marcusoroberts thx dude 😘
Hey mark can u show me how or can I ride my scooter to u and I can install for me the gps please
Hiya, good to hear from you. At the moment I still have to sort one of my scooters out. It's been out of action all summer. It's lack of time and laziness!
Marcus Roberts I see ok well keep us posted maybe a video how u connection the dc converter but u mate nt have time .
Need to watch sevearl times because you're hard to understand. Some of your words are slurred or incomplete.
So it's not 5600w scooter as was written in the title. Its only 2100w as thr battery only delivers a max of that amount. The scooter might be capable of over 5000w but if you have the size battery and running it in the scooter then yes it is 5600w but it's only just under half the watts you claim it has.
Not to mention the watts your light is drawing as well so i think it's a bit over kill and just wastes more energy and more weight having 4 lights and all the doodars on it. It's already heavy enough as it is and i bet it's heavier than a ebike at the same rated power and the ebike would be so much safer at the same high speeds of a scooter.
Just plain silly in my opinion but hey, that's your choice even if someone else thinks it silly. What does your GF or wife think of it?
Ok then you need to get a Dualton X which is marginally quicker by 3mph with less range and a lot heavier but much more expensive.
RMS true power. This is what the new 42ah battery should deliver aside from lightings etc.
@@marcusoroberts you got a 42AH battery for yours? Did it make a difference?
@@JoshStreetDesign Hi I did get a 42Ah LG battery for but have not yet fitted it. It's a little heavier obviously and won't give any additional speed, but will increase the range considerably. And of course you can go top speed for longer, and combat much heavier terrain without sapping the battery. At the moment 35Ah is more than adequate....for now!
@@marcusoroberts Do you have to upgrade the controllers as well for that higher battery?
You have no idea how to do an unboxing. When you explain the filming and what buttons you press.
Where did I say it was an unboxing video?
I Love It. Nice video!
Cheers Sandor!