I just discovered your channel a I love your boat. Who designed it? It looks like a holdover from when diy building was a lot more common. A tour would be awesome.
Thanks for the comment, it’s a friend of mine who owns the boat, she’s actually GRP. Tyrell and Young boat builders built her in 1987 for himself and took the lines from “Secret” a Paglesham from 1932 I believe- info online about that boat. He was then asked to make more so took a mold from pioneer and made approx 20 more.
Absolutely brilliant , I have a small gaff cutter which I bought in boxes off Ebay . I`ve put her together as I thought and have sailed her for a few years trying to teach myself but little nuggets like this for me are great as seeing something is so much easier than trying to fathom something out on your own .Many thanks for taking the time and effort to make this video and help others out .Subscribed and liked
Thank you so much for your comment. Comments like these really make it worth while making these videos. That’s great to hear about your boat, sounds like you rescued her. The owner of this boat did pretty much the same thing. She was in bits with boxes of stuff. It’s the best way I think because you get to know every inch of the boat. 😁⛵️
Southwold Harbour. Fished out of here for many years. This is good advice, and I've seen too many people ring it on with a few feet between them and the next boat. The subsequent panic is something else. Going astern is sometimes a problem on a vessel with a large coarse prop which is running in the oppositej hand to the direction you want the stern to go; the "paddle wheel effect".
Yep what you describe is exactly what I’m talking about, nice to hear from someone who has witnessed it In our river. I see it all too often. Agee with the prop, chuck a strong beam wind in the mix too. For me it’s all about calculating what elements/ factors are working with/against you then picking the option that can go wrong the least! Even if it takes a few goes. 😁
Another excellent instructional video, superbly demonstrated. I'm still in the early learning/newb class of sailor, so these vids are gold. Love that boat btw
Love it. More docking (into and away from) videos please, also with different types of boats. Talking us through the thought process and plan really helps to understand better. So many variations of docking require various adaptations.... which will give you content for years! ^_^
That’s great thanks for the comment. Yes I was thinking earlier that there is so much to cover, I mean throw a strong wind in on the beam or even wind against tide, Lee shore perhaps and everything changes again, but I’ll try to cover them all in short videos. I had a brilliant session in a 32 foot bilge keeler in 30 plus knots and a full spring ebb tide. I mean it was nuts, unfortunately the footage came out bad and couldn’t use it. 😂bilge keeler was the hardest though as one of those keels starts gripping in astern it was so hard to bring it back- turn instigated and back up plan employed!Didn’t manage it in fact but that’s the effect of 30 knots blowing the bow round. 😁⛵️
First rate instruction as I’m not a sailor but understood perfectly without watching twice. Prop travel was a new concept for me but steerage in current I’ve experienced whilst paddling canoes down Canadian river rapids many a time.
That’s awesome feedback thank you. Sounds pretty exciting on the rapids. It’s all very similar, just the larger the vessel- the heavier and the more damage you do when it goes wrong😁 prop walk is a key characteristic that is normally working to your advantage or not. Very handy to manoeuvre in tight spaces. Especially on twin propellor boats. It’s another topic in itself. 😁⛵️
She’s actually very nice, the owner has done a great job on her. She has a mind of her own, you have to let her go where she wants when sailing, which is nice because it’s like communicating with her. Very nice to sail.
Tyrrell and young boatbuilders took the lines from Original - 'secret' (built by paglesham in 1932) and made Pioneer (this boat) in 1987 as a boat for himself. He was then asked to make more so he took a mold off Pioneer and made approx 20 more. I think. There is some more info online about “secret”
@@sailingin-tuitionwithchuck I will pass on your kind comments to the owner! Got some more mooring vids coming out over the coming weeks all using Pioneer. For a full keel she handles beautifully. Some boats are just pigs to manoeuvre and it’s becoming my quest to try do these videos in more difficult boats.
Yes it was a fine line to be honest, in astern in tick-over was enough to start making way without the effects of prop walk- when I gave it any revs it would actually pull me back in, which is probably a key point- also if it had been a leeshore then I wouldn’t have been able to do it without a spring. Hopefully I can get a video on a leeshore with a spring as part of this series as haven’t covered any wind effects yet. So much to cover. The conditions were perfect to do this video without a spring. Additionally a weather shore probably would have blown the bow out too which again would have stopped the stern from getting out into the current enough. So it really was ideal for no spring which I feel is good for just covering the basics. Next time!😁⛵️
I might have been a good idea to point out which way the tide was flowing near the beginning of the video , otherwise its not clear and has to be guessed by what you are trying to do.
@@boatedouttrust me as they say, you can see the flow direction from the opening moments as you look behind you into the water flow around the bow 👍🏻👍🏻. I helm a large single engined flybridge trawler yacht and the departure plan is very similar to yours. Almost never drive it off the berth and ahead thinking that it’s a car, which it patently isn’t. A smallish rudder on mine with a viscous prop walk to port in astern (thanks to a 28” diameter five bladed prop) means that it’s almost impossible (for me that is) to get it tracking straight in astern. If I was on an outdrive vessel then it acts very much like your trailer sailer. Great concise video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏
Mate, surely you don’t need to go faster than the tide to get steerage. If the tide is moving 3kts, and you’re doing just 1 knot through the water, you’d have steerage. If the tide is moving at 3, you’re doing 1, in total doing 4, you’d still have steerage. Otherwise at sea you’d always have to be sailing faster than the tide. Doesn’t make sense. Steerage is dependant on movement through the water and not over ground, no?
Mate, surely you don’t need to go faster than the tide to get steerage. If the tide is moving 3kts, and you’re doing just 1 knot through the water, you’d have steerage. If the tide is moving at 3, you’re doing 1, in total doing 4, you’d still have steerage. Otherwise at sea you’d always have to be sailing faster than the tide. Doesn’t make sense.
@@SwitchySails exactly. So you are going faster than the current. You are doing 4knots over the ground, the tide is doing 3 knots over the ground. Then you have generated water flow over the rudder and have steerage. What you have written is the same as the text at 30seconds in?
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So simple yet effective.
I just discovered your channel a I love your boat. Who designed it? It looks like a holdover from when diy building was a lot more common. A tour would be awesome.
Please tell more about your splendid boat. Looks like a dream. And thanks for the great tutorial on working tides when leaving and approaching!
Thanks for the comment, it’s a friend of mine who owns the boat, she’s actually GRP. Tyrell and Young boat builders built her in 1987 for himself and took the lines from “Secret” a Paglesham from 1932 I believe- info online about that boat. He was then asked to make more so took a mold from pioneer and made approx 20 more.
@@boatedout Great! Thanks much.
Very nice indeed.
Absolutely brilliant , I have a small gaff cutter which I bought in boxes off Ebay . I`ve put her together as I thought and have sailed her for a few years trying to teach myself but little nuggets like this for me are great as seeing something is so much easier than trying to fathom something out on your own .Many thanks for taking the time and effort to make this video and help others out .Subscribed and liked
Thank you so much for your comment. Comments like these really make it worth while making these videos. That’s great to hear about your boat, sounds like you rescued her. The owner of this boat did pretty much the same thing. She was in bits with boxes of stuff. It’s the best way I think because you get to know every inch of the boat. 😁⛵️
Southwold Harbour. Fished out of here for many years. This is good advice, and I've seen too many people ring it on with a few feet between them and the next boat. The subsequent panic is something else. Going astern is sometimes a problem on a vessel with a large coarse prop which is running in the oppositej hand to the direction you want the stern to go; the "paddle wheel effect".
Yep what you describe is exactly what I’m talking about, nice to hear from someone who has witnessed it In our river. I see it all too often. Agee with the prop, chuck a strong beam wind in the mix too. For me it’s all about calculating what elements/ factors are working with/against you then picking the option that can go wrong the least! Even if it takes a few goes. 😁
Love it, all types of docking scenarios with full keel, using prop walk when coming and wind with different birth sides. Great videos
Thank you, I can cover all of those for you👍
Excellent video. Very clearly explained and executed. Appreciated 👏
Thank you, you are very welcome!😁⛵️
Another excellent instructional video, superbly demonstrated. I'm still in the early learning/newb class of sailor, so these vids are gold. Love that boat btw
Thank you appreciated, have you made the leap to boat ownership already? Great that you are getting into sailing. 👍
Love it. More docking (into and away from) videos please, also with different types of boats. Talking us through the thought process and plan really helps to understand better. So many variations of docking require various adaptations.... which will give you content for years! ^_^
That’s great thanks for the comment. Yes I was thinking earlier that there is so much to cover, I mean throw a strong wind in on the beam or even wind against tide, Lee shore perhaps and everything changes again, but I’ll try to cover them all in short videos. I had a brilliant session in a 32 foot bilge keeler in 30 plus knots and a full spring ebb tide. I mean it was nuts, unfortunately the footage came out bad and couldn’t use it. 😂bilge keeler was the hardest though as one of those keels starts gripping in astern it was so hard to bring it back- turn instigated and back up plan employed!Didn’t manage it in fact but that’s the effect of 30 knots blowing the bow round. 😁⛵️
First rate instruction as I’m not a sailor but understood perfectly without watching twice. Prop travel was a new concept for me but steerage in current I’ve experienced whilst paddling canoes down Canadian river rapids many a time.
That’s awesome feedback thank you. Sounds pretty exciting on the rapids. It’s all very similar, just the larger the vessel- the heavier and the more damage you do when it goes wrong😁 prop walk is a key characteristic that is normally working to your advantage or not. Very handy to manoeuvre in tight spaces. Especially on twin propellor boats. It’s another topic in itself. 😁⛵️
What an excellent instructional video! Thanks for that.
Thankyou! 😁⛵️
Enjoyed that video, great explanation.
Thank you! Pleased you enjoyed it👌🙏⛵️
Cool boat. Love it
She’s actually very nice, the owner has done a great job on her. She has a mind of her own, you have to let her go where she wants when sailing, which is nice because it’s like communicating with her. Very nice to sail.
In my estimation, videos like this prevent 5.4 boat insurance claims per month. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Hopefully my insurance premium will stop rising then 😁⛵️
nicely done, thank you!
Thank you, my pleasure. 😁⛵️
This is awesome. When is part2?
Just gotta edit it and she’s ready!😁⛵️
Great video! Beautiful boat. Would love some info on it
Tyrrell and young boatbuilders took the lines from Original - 'secret' (built by paglesham in 1932) and made Pioneer (this boat) in 1987 as a boat for himself. He was then asked to make more so he took a mold off Pioneer and made approx 20 more. I think. There is some more info online about “secret”
@@boatedout is pioneer a woodboat?
@@sailingin-tuitionwithchuck no she’s GRP 😁
@@boatedout beautiful
@@sailingin-tuitionwithchuck I will pass on your kind comments to the owner! Got some more mooring vids coming out over the coming weeks all using Pioneer. For a full keel she handles beautifully. Some boats are just pigs to manoeuvre and it’s becoming my quest to try do these videos in more difficult boats.
nice 👍
Surprised you managed that without a bow spring.
Prop walk could have been an issue
Yes it was a fine line to be honest, in astern in tick-over was enough to start making way without the effects of prop walk- when I gave it any revs it would actually pull me back in, which is probably a key point- also if it had been a leeshore then I wouldn’t have been able to do it without a spring. Hopefully I can get a video on a leeshore with a spring as part of this series as haven’t covered any wind effects yet. So much to cover. The conditions were perfect to do this video without a spring. Additionally a weather shore probably would have blown the bow out too which again would have stopped the stern from getting out into the current enough. So it really was ideal for no spring which I feel is good for just covering the basics. Next time!😁⛵️
I might have been a good idea to point out which way the tide was flowing near the beginning of the video , otherwise its not clear and has to be guessed by what you are trying to do.
Ah ok, thanks for the suggestion, I’ll be sure to add more emphasis on the direction of tidal flow for the next video. 👍
@@boatedouttrust me as they say, you can see the flow direction from the opening moments as you look behind you into the water flow around the bow 👍🏻👍🏻.
I helm a large single engined flybridge trawler yacht and the departure plan is very similar to yours. Almost never drive it off the berth and ahead thinking that it’s a car, which it patently isn’t. A smallish rudder on mine with a viscous prop walk to port in astern (thanks to a 28” diameter five bladed prop) means that it’s almost impossible (for me that is) to get it tracking straight in astern. If I was on an outdrive vessel then it acts very much like your trailer sailer.
Great concise video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏
Mate, surely you don’t need to go faster than the tide to get steerage. If the tide is moving 3kts, and you’re doing just 1 knot through the water, you’d have steerage. If the tide is moving at 3, you’re doing 1, in total doing 4, you’d still have steerage. Otherwise at sea you’d always have to be sailing faster than the tide. Doesn’t make sense. Steerage is dependant on movement through the water and not over ground, no?
Mate, surely you don’t need to go faster than the tide to get steerage. If the tide is moving 3kts, and you’re doing just 1 knot through the water, you’d have steerage. If the tide is moving at 3, you’re doing 1, in total doing 4, you’d still have steerage. Otherwise at sea you’d always have to be sailing faster than the tide. Doesn’t make sense.
@@SwitchySails exactly. So you are going faster than the current. You are doing 4knots over the ground, the tide is doing 3 knots over the ground. Then you have generated water flow over the rudder and have steerage. What you have written is the same as the text at 30seconds in?