Hey all! Sorry for the slowness of content as of late. Engineering keeps me busy. I also apologize for the mic quality in this video-sometimes these cheap lav mics are a godsend, and then sometimes they just sound stuffy like in this video. Still figuring the whole thing out…
@FalcanFilms I believe it's from Arban's "Fantasie Brilliante." I haven't actually looked at any music for it so I couldn't tell you what part, but the piece is a theme and variations, so I think what I played in the video is just the theme.
Excellent review. You confirmed what I noticed between the old Yahama mpc. design and the modern. I have an old 14a4a that I love for piccolo, but the modern 14a4a is a different animal. Thanks!!
@@t.l.williams3684 Thanks TL! It does indeed seem that way. The only ones I can compare vs. modern equivalents are the 11 and 16, but I do like those old designs more as well.
Also another piece of history for the vintage Yamaha mouthpieces, Toshi helped develop them. And looking at older Bach blanks from the New York era, you’ll notice a similarity of both those pieces and the Schilkes
The early (3-digit) Yamaha trumpet models where not only influenced by Schilke, they were designed Renold Schilke himself. My old Yamaha 16 mouthpiece seems to be similar to my Schilke 13, just larger. Both work great with the YTR-732, but meanwhile I got used to the D4 rim. Someone told me that in the beginning Schilke made mouthpieces for Yamaha.
@@hauke3644 Good to know! I think the no-letter Schilkes and older Yamahas have very nice rims, and I’m pretty disappointed that the “4” rim is now standard. Granted, the 13D4 specifically is nice-it has a very similar thinner and more rounded rim to a Bach 5B. I had a cornet 13D4 for a while.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass The Schilke 13D4 is my favorite for my YTR-761. Sounds like a larger trumpet without loosing brilliance. But I needed to get used to the 4 rim
Unfortunately I'm limited to (a) what I already own, which isn't usually anything super fancy like Griego (b) what's readily available here in town, which is not much (c) things I can find for really cheap on eBay. Brands like Griego, Greg Black, Monette, Wedge, etc. usually end up being out of reach for me as a result.
@@trumpetrice First off, I’m a little confused and would appreciate some clarification-all modern Yamaha mouthpieces follow a three-spec naming system: number/letter/number. So when you say “modern 11,” what are we talking about here? An 11B4? 11C4? Or are we talking about the vintage 11 I discussed in this video? I too had a NY Bach 6C for some time, and it was distinctive in that it had quite a flat rim contour. I do think the modern 11_4 mouthpieces from Yamaha have slightly rounder rims, so I’m not sure if they’ll appropriately replicate the feel of your NY 6C on the chops.
@@trumpetrice I see. I wasn’t aware there was a modern model 11 with no letter designation. My guess is that it has a pronouncedly rounder rim than most NY-period Bach pieces, but in terms of inner diameter and cup I could see it being very close to the 6C.
Yes there is a modern 11. I checked the Schilke 11 (no yammy 11 on the comparator)on the comparator program and the rim looks very flat …since the yammy is a copy of the Schilke I’m hoping they are fairly close in comparison.
@@AllinGold2 Yeah, I would say the 12F3d is one of the more common old-style sizes, but even so, there aren’t too many of them still floating around. Good luck on your search.
Is it safe to say that today's Yamaha mouthpieces are the Classical Music standard? I never read Yamaha recommended for jazz or blues, which Wick and Curry own. I think the current Yamaha MP numbering is the best, however. Bach is counterintuitive and simply stupid way.😊
Just like with any brand that produces many sizes, there's no reason one shouldn't use Yamaha mouthpieces for jazz. For instance, Bobby Shew, who helped design my Yamaha YTR-8310Z, has a "Yamaha Bobby Shew Jazz" model mouthpiece that is very good for such things, as are the Yamaha 14B4 or 15B4 for big band and solos, 14E4 or 15E4 if a very deep and fluffy ballad sound is desired, etc. Curry ought not be pinholed as a brand for jazz mouthpieces, either. These brands all offer a wide variety of sizes for a wide variety of settings. As far as mouthpiece sizing, I like the methods used by brands like GR or Puje, who specify inch measurements as the primary size. E.G. 0.665" inner diameter = GR 66.5C or Puje 65. Any scale (be it Bach, Yamaha, or anything else) that relies on arbitrary numbers (be it 1C, 18C4, or whaever) to define set sizes is questionable.
@@SamuelPlaysBrassExcellent Sam. Looking forward to whatever you have in the future. You came up on our forum during a discussion of Adjustable Bottom Caps. I'm frustrated no one gives a straightforward explanation of what changes in the output.
Hey all! Sorry for the slowness of content as of late. Engineering keeps me busy. I also apologize for the mic quality in this video-sometimes these cheap lav mics are a godsend, and then sometimes they just sound stuffy like in this video. Still figuring the whole thing out…
What song were you playing in the playing demos section of the video?
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@FalcanFilms I believe it's from Arban's "Fantasie Brilliante." I haven't actually looked at any music for it so I couldn't tell you what part, but the piece is a theme and variations, so I think what I played in the video is just the theme.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass Thank you!
Samuel is a national treasure. He will be a great Associate Professor somewhere. His folks did a great job.
Shoutout to mom and dad!
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Never rambling! Love your detailed information!
Thank you Marc! I very much appreciate those in the audience who gain something from my extensive exposition - call it rambling or whatever else :)
Excellent review. You confirmed what I noticed between the old Yahama mpc. design and the modern. I have an old 14a4a that I love for piccolo, but the modern 14a4a is a different animal. Thanks!!
@@t.l.williams3684 Thanks TL! It does indeed seem that way. The only ones I can compare vs. modern equivalents are the 11 and 16, but I do like those old designs more as well.
Also another piece of history for the vintage Yamaha mouthpieces, Toshi helped develop them. And looking at older Bach blanks from the New York era, you’ll notice a similarity of both those pieces and the Schilkes
I was not aware of Toshi's connection to Yamaha! Thanks for the info, Matt.
The early (3-digit) Yamaha trumpet models where not only influenced by Schilke, they were designed Renold Schilke himself. My old Yamaha 16 mouthpiece seems to be similar to my Schilke 13, just larger. Both work great with the YTR-732, but meanwhile I got used to the D4 rim. Someone told me that in the beginning Schilke made mouthpieces for Yamaha.
@@hauke3644 Good to know! I think the no-letter Schilkes and older Yamahas have very nice rims, and I’m pretty disappointed that the “4” rim is now standard. Granted, the 13D4 specifically is nice-it has a very similar thinner and more rounded rim to a Bach 5B. I had a cornet 13D4 for a while.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass The Schilke 13D4 is my favorite for my YTR-761. Sounds like a larger trumpet without loosing brilliance. But I needed to get used to the 4 rim
Sam Plays Brass merch? Maybe get a few dress shirts with embroidery. S P B logo.
Ooh... perhaps...
Could you review griego trumpet mouthpiece I use them for trombone and love them but I want to know how their trumpet mouthpieces are
Unfortunately I'm limited to (a) what I already own, which isn't usually anything super fancy like Griego (b) what's readily available here in town, which is not much (c) things I can find for really cheap on eBay. Brands like Griego, Greg Black, Monette, Wedge, etc. usually end up being out of reach for me as a result.
I like the feel of the ny 6C. I ordered a modern Yamaha 11. Would you say the contour is the same in the modern 11 models ?
@@trumpetrice First off, I’m a little confused and would appreciate some clarification-all modern Yamaha mouthpieces follow a three-spec naming system: number/letter/number. So when you say “modern 11,” what are we talking about here? An 11B4? 11C4? Or are we talking about the vintage 11 I discussed in this video?
I too had a NY Bach 6C for some time, and it was distinctive in that it had quite a flat rim contour. I do think the modern 11_4 mouthpieces from Yamaha have slightly rounder rims, so I’m not sure if they’ll appropriately replicate the feel of your NY 6C on the chops.
Yes. I was referring to the 11 (straight 11)
Meaning the modern 11 vs the vintage 11, compared to the ny 6C
(Straight 11)
@@trumpetrice I see. I wasn’t aware there was a modern model 11 with no letter designation. My guess is that it has a pronouncedly rounder rim than most NY-period Bach pieces, but in terms of inner diameter and cup I could see it being very close to the 6C.
Yes there is a modern 11. I checked the Schilke 11 (no yammy 11 on the comparator)on the comparator program and the rim looks very flat …since the yammy is a copy of the Schilke I’m hoping they are fairly close in comparison.
I've been searching for an old 12f3d (flugel), but they are tough to locate.
@@AllinGold2 Yeah, I would say the 12F3d is one of the more common old-style sizes, but even so, there aren’t too many of them still floating around. Good luck on your search.
Is it safe to say that today's Yamaha mouthpieces are the Classical Music standard? I never read Yamaha recommended for jazz or blues, which Wick and Curry own. I think the current Yamaha MP numbering is the best, however. Bach is counterintuitive and simply stupid way.😊
Just like with any brand that produces many sizes, there's no reason one shouldn't use Yamaha mouthpieces for jazz. For instance, Bobby Shew, who helped design my Yamaha YTR-8310Z, has a "Yamaha Bobby Shew Jazz" model mouthpiece that is very good for such things, as are the Yamaha 14B4 or 15B4 for big band and solos, 14E4 or 15E4 if a very deep and fluffy ballad sound is desired, etc.
Curry ought not be pinholed as a brand for jazz mouthpieces, either. These brands all offer a wide variety of sizes for a wide variety of settings.
As far as mouthpiece sizing, I like the methods used by brands like GR or Puje, who specify inch measurements as the primary size. E.G. 0.665" inner diameter = GR 66.5C or Puje 65. Any scale (be it Bach, Yamaha, or anything else) that relies on arbitrary numbers (be it 1C, 18C4, or whaever) to define set sizes is questionable.
@@SamuelPlaysBrassExcellent Sam. Looking forward to whatever you have in the future. You came up on our forum during a discussion of Adjustable Bottom Caps. I'm frustrated no one gives a straightforward explanation of what changes in the output.
Eww, that Yamaha 9 was crusty. If Dawn and a mouthpiece brush don’t clean a mouthpiece up, I’ll give it a boil.