Wax your chain anywhere - make it yourself

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  • Опубликовано: 14 фев 2023
  • This is a liquid wax you can bottle for easy transport.
    Shellite equivalents.... benzine ,ligroin, petroleum ether ,white gasoline.

Комментарии • 869

  • @ClaviculaNotoria
    @ClaviculaNotoria Год назад +59

    The wife is angry I melted all the candles but the chain is happy, life goals met

  • @The2808erik
    @The2808erik Год назад +24

    Thank you. If anyone in the EU is looking for Naphta or Shellite, lighter fluid or washing benzin is the same thing.

    • @crabtrap
      @crabtrap Год назад +1

      also known as 'panel wipe' and 'camp fuel'

    • @unaluv88
      @unaluv88 Месяц назад

      Thanks!

    • @paulb9769
      @paulb9769 Месяц назад

      Do you mean Zippo fluid?

    • @jybuys
      @jybuys 5 дней назад

      Yes, in Dutch it's called 'wasbenzine'. You can buy it in a supermarket.

    • @pradeepknal
      @pradeepknal 2 дня назад

      In Germany I found the same as "Brennspiritus". But the wax doesn't dissolve much. Wrong choice? Or does it need to be warmed a bit?

  • @andymapplebeck2374
    @andymapplebeck2374 Год назад +31

    Used your wax/teflon chain recipe as you suggested and it has been brilliant. Also loved your clear, direct instructions and demonstrations......all of which has been a fine example to absolutely everybody who wants to make an instructional video, well done......

    • @kevinferguson6652
      @kevinferguson6652 Месяц назад +2

      I've been using your wax recipe for years now. I got a slow cooker and ordered the wax and ptfe powder. Never looked back. I also make the liquid version after scraping some wax out of the cooker. It's awesome stuff and saves me money so I can buy more bike stuff. Thanks for the recipes and videos. Keep up the good work. I'll be watching from sunny Scotland 👀 😂

  • @garyaschenberger-cz2fj
    @garyaschenberger-cz2fj Год назад +9

    Ive been waxing my chains for about 3-4 years now and would never go back to the commercial products, cleaner longer lasting, thanks

  • @ralfhenning-venske6764
    @ralfhenning-venske6764 Год назад +21

    Pope of cycling lubricant - big community contributor - Thank you, this is the missing piece in my OzCycle Chain Wax history - coming from 2019 with Petroleum - switching end of Dec 2019 to PTFE version and now a solid hack with the "on-track" version - Thanks a lot! Good to have you back chap!

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +9

      Improving lubricants is an ongoing process , maybe one day we will have belt drives with no lube.

    • @FooFahFoeFum
      @FooFahFoeFum 11 месяцев назад +1

      Very interesting.. Church candles and PTFE... Where do you find the PTFE in the USA??

  • @oranjid
    @oranjid Год назад +11

    2-3 years later still sticking to your Method Steve and it is working well. With candles and PTFE. It was a bit of search required, but just the most simple stick candles seemed to have the best wax. Very similar to those you have there. If anyone is not sure what kind of candles to pick, do not go for tea lights, white stick candles with no coating, the cheap stuff is the best here.
    Still not sure if this is for everyone. But for people who like to ride 20-30.000km a year this saves big money asides of the pleasure to always have a clean drive-train. thank you Steve!

    • @FooFahFoeFum
      @FooFahFoeFum 11 месяцев назад +1

      Very interesting.. Church candles and PTFE... Where do you find the PTFE in the USA??

  • @FunMushizzle
    @FunMushizzle 11 месяцев назад +4

    Just got a new bike, and just learning the art of waxing chains! First time around I went the commercial wax mix in a bag, pre-made. It worked fine and I'm loving how clean the chain is. Next step after finding your channel is do this myself and the save the money! Thank you!

  • @ChrisLowden
    @ChrisLowden Год назад +2

    Looking forward to watching this video. Truth, I look forward to all your uploads Steve and have put into practice many of your tips. Keep up the great work, always enjoyed and rewatched!

  • @damionmiller4366
    @damionmiller4366 8 месяцев назад +5

    I’m sold! Thank you for making this simple, affordable, practical, and fun!!! 🤩

  • @SniperSnake50BMG
    @SniperSnake50BMG Год назад +6

    The revised version!
    Thanks you very much Oz!!!

  • @TK-ov4hn
    @TK-ov4hn Год назад +4

    Thanks for the update. You made me a believer about a year ago and I will never go back!

  • @kgu9870
    @kgu9870 10 месяцев назад +3

    This diy mix is the best thing ive found for coating table saws, planers, and jointers for woodworkers out there

  • @VeloSansFin
    @VeloSansFin Год назад +1

    Hi Oz,
    I did a 175km ride today with waxed chain and it was awesome. Thank you for the videos.

  • @colincarter5266
    @colincarter5266 5 месяцев назад +2

    I love the feel and quietness of a freshly waxed chain (I use the immersion method with melted candle wax) but have been wanting good instruction on a freshen up drip application. Thanks for your clear and easy instructions. Will be trying this very soon!

  • @rodionovivan
    @rodionovivan Год назад +5

    I used your parafin-PTFE recepie for past 3 years or so in hot bath and in bottle. Perfectly happy with it.

  • @GeneralKato
    @GeneralKato Год назад +1

    Just the cleanliness of this method pushed me over!

  • @edwiser
    @edwiser Год назад +11

    Great to see people still doing this I started waxing my chains in the 80’s.

    • @TikeMyson69
      @TikeMyson69 Год назад +18

      You're doing something wrong. It takes only about 5 minutes for me.

    • @edwiser
      @edwiser Год назад +2

      @@TikeMyson69 I started waxing my chain in 1985. 😊

    • @crabtrap
      @crabtrap Год назад

      @@edwiser are your palms harry yet?

    • @vikingcove
      @vikingcove Год назад +2

      I started waxing my chain in the 70's while in high school. I have no recollection from where I got the idea. It worked great in New Jersey's cruddy winter and spring riding. I got my paraffin from huge bulk blocks left over from when we used to make sand candles.

    • @bigwave_dave8468
      @bigwave_dave8468 Год назад

      I was doing this in 1979 -- my neighbor was an Engineer from Hewlett Packard and an avid cyclist. He showed me how. I worked at a bike shop and we didn't have any paraffin based lubes in those days.

  • @mohamedmonem2645
    @mohamedmonem2645 Год назад +4

    Coach , HUGE THANKS , i tried this method (naphtha) and it's very easy and very effective , it only took around 10 minutes to prepare and the result is very good , i used only naphtha and it dissolved the wax (with a bit of shaking) , applied it as you said , and a smooth ride we have , thanks a lot

  • @Suesses-Einhorn
    @Suesses-Einhorn Год назад +1

    You are the best person for presenting this. I make 10 chains at once, clean them with car gas in a sealed container, let them sit over night, and rewash them one more time. You can reuse those 2 sealed containers and the same gas. Then i use the wax warmer for hair removal and wax all the chains. When i can hear some squeaking from the chain i put it into a old can and flush it with boiling water, put the chain out and eject the water from it and clean it with a rag. Then i rewax all 10 chains. Its very simple, you just dont want to breath those fumes, so do it outside. I use a latex glove over a working glove to handle hot stuff. And remember, gas is a fire hazard.

  • @yru435
    @yru435 Год назад +33

    I appreciate your thorough and informative videos on the chain lube topic.
    I had an experience recently that provided for me, and perhaps for your viewers, some pointers.
    I applied an expensive commercial wax lube product to my clean chain, and the lube just sat on the links with little penetration. I decided to add some solvent to the lube to give it some added fluidity. I tried a number of solvents and found that best was ACETONE.
    It made a nice milky sauce that was better at seeping into the pins and rollers.
    Here are reasons that ACETONE is better than NAPTHA (SHELLITE)...
    1. ACETONE evaporates more quickly.
    2. ACETONE is *far less toxic* than NAPTHA (SHELLITE).

  • @derekhobbs1102
    @derekhobbs1102 Год назад +4

    I'm currently on the Squirt band wagon, I just make sure I thoroughly clean new chain before first application. Current low level chain is at just over 4,000km with no noticeable wear.

  • @FranticGuitar88
    @FranticGuitar88 Год назад +11

    You should mention that it is important not to get the wax anywhere near disc brakes. If a flake of wax gets on the brake pads it will wick in once heated and you'll never completely get rid of it.

  • @johne7100
    @johne7100 Год назад +8

    Pull the wick out with a pair of pliers and use a kitchen grater.
    I usually swap chains (one in the wax, one on the bike) at 500 km but last chain I did with the petrol/boiling water/wax/PTFE method gave me 1000 km before it got noisy. Wouldn't make a practice of it, just wanted to see. Great method, thanks!

  • @brettmclean1213
    @brettmclean1213 Год назад +1

    Great new recipe. Thanks Oz

  • @morph__
    @morph__ Год назад +22

    Been following Steve's waxing advice for the past few years and believe it has saved me at least 2 replacement chains and prabably a cassette too. This is with one batch of candle wax + ptfe brew.
    I'll give this liquid a try as a "touch up" when I forget to do a proper hot wax. Thanks Steve!!

    • @ianwilde1800
      @ianwilde1800 Год назад

      i was ranting on then seen your post yup you right

    • @coypatton3160
      @coypatton3160 Год назад

      I bet you could use a mix of camping stove gas with your hot wax base to have s liquid lube.

    • @FooFahFoeFum
      @FooFahFoeFum 11 месяцев назад

      Very interesting.. Church candles and PTFE... Where do you find the PTFE in the USA??

  • @robertculver3296
    @robertculver3296 Год назад +3

    Thanks again for great advice. I have been using the teflon /paraffin on my MTB chain for a couple of years now, it is really good as the 'dry' chain doesn't attract /hold dirt so a quick hose off at the end of a muddy ride keeps everything clean.

    • @mdmattmann
      @mdmattmann Год назад

      How often do you reapply ?

    • @robertculver3296
      @robertculver3296 Год назад +4

      @@mdmattmann I haven't used the dissolved wax 'top up' approach, I have 4 chains that I 'rotate' on the bike about every 6-8wks (I do about 60km/wk) then every 6 months or so fire up the slow cooker and do all the chains at the same time.

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +7

      Every 300km for hot immersive waxing , 100km for this bottled liquid wax.

    • @Unknown-jl7mg
      @Unknown-jl7mg Год назад

      i really wonder how it works on muddy mtb.

    • @Leo-gt1bx
      @Leo-gt1bx 10 месяцев назад

      Have you tried Molybdenum sulfide?

  • @robertb208
    @robertb208 Год назад

    Great work as always! Thanks for sharing

  • @fernandomedeiros3393
    @fernandomedeiros3393 11 месяцев назад +4

    This is Gold! I like your recipes so much that I don't even bother waxing my chain on the pot anymore. This is all I use. Just wipe the dust off after the ride (If any), apply the lube, remove excess and you're done. I've made batches using IPA, OMS and Naphtha, all three performed flawlessly, IPA being my favorite.

    • @MrAnon-2024
      @MrAnon-2024 5 месяцев назад +2

      I realise this was posted 5 months ago but, when you say IPA, are you referring to ISOPROPYL ALCOHOL? I have this in the garage (99.9% purity) so it would be great if I could use that as the carrier for the home made wax 👍

    • @mogosialexandru36
      @mogosialexandru36 5 месяцев назад

      So....is the alchool good as a carrier? I want to make but i only have alchool

    • @daniele_trioni
      @daniele_trioni 5 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@MrAnon-2024yeah, I think It's that!

    • @MrAnon-2024
      @MrAnon-2024 5 месяцев назад

      @@daniele_trioni 👍

    • @jybuys
      @jybuys 5 дней назад

      ​@@MrAnon-2024lets ask the app Perplexity:
      will paraffin dissolve in isopropylalcohol?
      Paraffin wax does not readily dissolve in isopropyl alcohol. Here are the key points:
      1. Paraffin wax is non-polar, while isopropyl alcohol is polar. As a general rule, "like dissolves like", meaning non-polar substances dissolve better in non-polar solvents[1][4].
      2. Experiments have shown that only a very small amount of paraffin wax (about 0.5 grams) will dissolve in 100 mL of boiling isopropyl alcohol. The solution becomes cloudy upon cooling[3].
      3. To effectively dissolve paraffin wax, non-polar organic solvents are required. Some options include:
      - Naphtha or mineral spirits[2]
      - Toluene or xylene[4]
      - Vegetable oil (for small amounts)[4]
      4. In histology procedures, isopropyl alcohol is sometimes used as a dehydrating agent before paraffin embedding, but an intermediate step using a solvent like xylene is required to allow the paraffin to properly infiltrate the tissue[5].
      In summary, isopropyl alcohol is not an effective solvent for paraffin wax. Non-polar solvents are much better suited for dissolving paraffin.
      Citations:
      [1] Cleaning with Organic Solvents, Part 2: Iso-Paraffins and Modified ... finishingandcoating.com/index.php/cleaning-pretreatment/1576-cleaning-with-organic-solvents-part-2-iso-paraffins-and-modified-alcohols
      [2] Question for you who wax your chain - Page 6 - Bike Forums www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/1191601-question-you-who-wax-your-chain-6.html
      [3] RE: [Histonet] Isopropyl alcohol and paraffin wax - Histosearch www.histosearch.com/histonet/Sep03A/RE.HistonetIsopropylalcoh.html
      [4] How to dissolve candle wax (paraffin)? - Chemistry Stack Exchange chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/17109/how-to-dissolve-candle-wax-paraffin
      [5] Dehydrating and embedding in paraffin www.ronaldschulte.nl/en/dehydrating-and-embedding-in-paraffin.html

  • @RolfReiner
    @RolfReiner 10 месяцев назад +3

    Life saver!!! I ride MTB on a tiny, dusty, salty, sandy and windy island in the middle of the Atlantic. This is the solution, as it is very inconvenient and expensive to import products, particularly liquids.

  • @pierrex3226
    @pierrex3226 Год назад +2

    Been using your technique for years, thank you. 2 comments.
    1. I use a bain marie for the hot wax bath, ie a metal container on top of boiling water. Works fine, avoids having to use a bulky appliance. Does mean I do it in my kitchen though.
    2. Afaik a lot of store candles are soy wax, not paraffin. I suspect soy wax also works, but idk if that's been tested. If it doesn't say on the label, idk how you can tell.

  • @holdenc1006
    @holdenc1006 9 месяцев назад

    Hey, greetings from Brisbane, new subscriber here, your channel is the one I’m most happy to have discovered.
    Also sort of a consolation to me that someone who knows what he’s doing, like yourself, still doesn’t mind using an ultegra mechanical in this day and age:)

  • @mythos14
    @mythos14 Год назад +1

    thanks for the update. have not managed to get a solution like this, but will try again with ur added information.

    • @mythos14
      @mythos14 Год назад +1

      i used 3/4 of an candle (45gr.), 0.75 Liters of wihte spirits, table spoon ptft. it seams a bit to heavy on wax but we will see

  • @ltu42
    @ltu42 Год назад +11

    My tip for this top-up lube: if the wax is not dissolving completely and the small bits of wax are clogging the nozzle, put the whole applicator bottle with the DIY lube into a cup of boiling hot water for a few minutes. The paraffin wax will dissolve into a clear solution.

    • @DavidCanet
      @DavidCanet 4 месяца назад

      oh really???? thank you

    • @DavidCanet
      @DavidCanet 4 месяца назад

      I will try with precaution not exploding

  • @carlosschabauer292
    @carlosschabauer292 Год назад +1

    Thanks for advice, you make my day.

  • @ianthomas3155
    @ianthomas3155 Год назад +1

    Great to see you back.

    • @madpeddler8263
      @madpeddler8263 Год назад

      I don't think he's back, someone else is responding in his absence. The video is most likely pre gone-you-know-where

  • @gunnarguggs2725
    @gunnarguggs2725 Год назад +5

    I have been using _Acetone_ as the carrier. It is considerably *less toxic* than Shellite/Naptha and it 'dries' faster.

    • @krak171
      @krak171 9 месяцев назад +2

      Did it dissolve the wax fine? Mine is not dissolving with acetone and i dont have naphtha here

  • @FaiscaaaH
    @FaiscaaaH Год назад +1

    Thanks for all the INFO !!!

  • @mickp10
    @mickp10 Год назад +1

    Thank you, quietest chain lube I have used (haven't tried crock pot waxing). The gear changing is silky smooth. I bought my parrifan wax beads from Spotlight, then mixed it into an old Pump water bottle, as tried a large applicator bottle but it leaked when shaking it.

  • @kahunamatata5721
    @kahunamatata5721 Год назад +1

    always love your videos!

  • @davidmacdonald287
    @davidmacdonald287 Год назад +2

    Thank you for recommending Connex Chains eons ago.

  • @ianwilde1800
    @ianwilde1800 Год назад +2

    another good vid mate iv converted my bikes to wax its so much cleaner and the chain life is so much better and i live in wet region of the uk it really is best solution instead spending fortune on fancy dirty oils im still using the first lot of ptfe and wax a year later and i love it its clean my drivetrain looks butifull all nice shiny instead of horrible oily anyone looking to do this believe me i really love it and im cyclist i don't even own a car i have my 3 bikes hybrid mountain bike and road race bike

  • @fabianmolyneux2308
    @fabianmolyneux2308 Год назад +3

    Steve Excellent video. Until seeing this, the whole waxing process all seemed too involved for me to head down this track. However, your very practical and simplified advice has made me reconsider it to definitely giving it a go. Again, thanks

  • @MountainParameters
    @MountainParameters Год назад +1

    I got a lot of bottles of liquid paraffin years ago and have been using it as chain lube. As we ride in the winter when temps can drop to -20C, I have noticed that the small bottle I carry does freeze at temps below -5C, so I guess my next idea will be to make a more viscose 'winter mix' by adding some naptha. Also I have learned here that adding ptfe would also be a good idea.

    • @MountainParameters
      @MountainParameters Год назад

      @@sabertoothmeowsi I find it seems to fade away quite quickly so I keep a mister bottle of it in my bag and usually spray it on every few days I use it full strength from the bottle, at the moment with no naptha, etc. Probably next winter I'll use the naptha as this stuff can freeze, but I'll have to titrate the ratio, I'll probably start with about 25% naptha.

  • @neta1538
    @neta1538 7 месяцев назад +2

    so cool! thanks so much for sharing your experiences and your knowledge, greetings from frankfurt germany

  • @michahalczuk9071
    @michahalczuk9071 Год назад +2

    Thank you for this tip.
    It will be extremely easy to use, and I never wanted to submerse my chain in hot parafin because it was too complicated.

  • @dirkgross1603
    @dirkgross1603 Год назад

    I've been a convert for about three years now. One downside (minor) is tracking miles on 5 bikes. Not a problem on my primary bike because I keep a spreadsheet for maintenance tracking, but my wife doesn't do that so I have to guess for hers...

  • @Thomas-vx8yf
    @Thomas-vx8yf Год назад +1

    thanks for the video greetings from Greece

  • @peteuthai
    @peteuthai Год назад

    Thank you for this info, great!

  • @RayStrilec
    @RayStrilec 4 месяца назад +1

    Having used this recipe, I find that the liquid congeals in the bottle at colder temperatures. That can be a problem during the winters here in Northeast US. My solution is to put the bottle in a container with warm water, occasionally shaking it till the liquid thins and flows easily. However, when applying the warm liquid to a cold chain it causes the wax to harden on the chain, so my solution for that is to warm the chain using a hair dryer before applying the liquid. Experimenting with temperatures, you'll find you can get the wax to flow into the rollers before it sets up. The cooler temps can actually work in your favor. Thanks for all your waxing tips, Oz Cycle dude!

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  4 месяца назад +2

      Great input,thanx 👌. Can't imagine what it's like to be that cold , coldest we ride in here would be 6degC.

  • @PatrickLino
    @PatrickLino Год назад +1

    Great stuff OZ!

  • @tresorr1
    @tresorr1 Год назад +2

    after using wax one year, 2 bikes (for citi and road bike) I noticed only one coins: in winter, when is many salt on roads, chain start rusting. So then you need to clean chain after ride in that salti conditions

  • @aveedub7403
    @aveedub7403 Год назад +3

    I couldn't readily get hold of Naphtha, but lighter fluid, like Ronson etc seems to be a substitute, its virtually 99.9% the same.

  • @cyclemadkiwi
    @cyclemadkiwi Год назад

    I've been using this for the last 3 years, Road, mountain and Track!
    I'm a Road and Track Commissaire here in NZ and at the recent NZ Elite Road Nationals doing bike check there were a few elite riders (Pro Teams too!) using wax....I still had to have a rag for all the other "Dirty" chains lol
    I've still been using the IPA though, looks like the Shellite is a little easier. Along with PTFE I also use Tungsten Di-sulfide and having great results.
    Love your videos!

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      Cheers 😃 . Yes wS2 is good too.

    • @sandythemonk
      @sandythemonk Год назад

      Thanks for sharing your routine. Does IPA dissolve wax? Also can IPA clean a new chain of the factory lube if I keep it immersed in IPA for couple of days?

    • @cyclemadkiwi
      @cyclemadkiwi Год назад +1

      @sandythemonk no, you need to follow the Oz Cycle method, use petrol first, then degreaser and lastly IPA. IPA on its own will not remove the factory grease.

  • @tcmcdcac
    @tcmcdcac Год назад +2

    Just a quick warning.
    I used the method and it worked perfectly - thanks!
    However, when applying, I stupidly splashed the shellite carrier on my old shimano dura ace C24's and disolved one of the stickers! No problem, but be careful when applying the mixture!

  • @tomrowe372
    @tomrowe372 Год назад

    Definitely going to try this 👍

  • @spektrumB
    @spektrumB Год назад +4

    Should I drop Squirt and use this homemade drip lube instead? Gonna made some this weekend and try it out.

  • @HerreraCam
    @HerreraCam 9 месяцев назад +1

    A thousand thanks!!

  • @ctawfiq
    @ctawfiq Год назад +2

    I use squirt lube. Next time will try to make my own.
    Nice video, as always.

  • @Charl_Wait
    @Charl_Wait Год назад +7

    Still the best lubricant for your chain.
    My slow cooker broke, and the wax in it lasted longer than the cooker. They stole my bike last year, and yet the wax remains. 🙃

    • @kousueki7024
      @kousueki7024 Год назад +3

      condolences for your stolen bike

  • @MuckingMunt
    @MuckingMunt Год назад +21

    I have saved most of your old, original chain waxing related videos in a play-list Steve; and I think a summary like this was overdue.
    On each of my two main bikes I alternate two fully immersed waxed chains. On the few longer 300-400k+ (randonneuring) instances I've set out from home I've used the Isopropanol 'carry along' small bottle solution suggested from your earlier videos.
    I'm defintely keen to try the "no kettle" shellite approach here too.
    My only small critique of this video is under-playing the original conversion to a wax vs. oil/petroleum based chain routine. Things are a bit more involved for the first time proper waxing of a chain slicked in OEM/factory lube.
    I had tried waxing some years before first seeing your channel; and I found your emphasis on totally washing, rinsing and removing previous petroleum based lubes made all the difference.
    Still a fan of your approach and undermining the BS of the broader industry. Keep it up.

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +8

      Yes a chain must always be fully cleaned before any waxing

    • @crabtrap
      @crabtrap Год назад +1

      Use a powered ultrasonic cleaner w degreaser solution. Will strip chain clean. They cost $60US....and have many uses

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  11 месяцев назад +1

      Gasoline contains oil , so no.

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  11 месяцев назад +1

      OK. If it dissolves wax and evaporates without leaving any substance it should work.

    • @robertmcfadyen9156
      @robertmcfadyen9156 7 месяцев назад

      My friend was told by Clarence Street Cyclery that it was unnecessary , casual mechanic's suggestion . I ended up sterilizing​ his chain and starting from scratch with Holy Cow . I had this in stock .@@stevenleffanue

  • @cyclingstock4930
    @cyclingstock4930 Год назад

    Bloody beautiful 😊

  • @ianhu943
    @ianhu943 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks OzCycle👍 I will give it a try too.

  • @global_nomad.
    @global_nomad. Год назад

    have followed this and waxed my rival axs chain for about 12 months, 10k km, still good - washed off too quickly in uk winter rain, so have been back on the smoove for the last couple of months.

    • @user-fh7bo4hp2c
      @user-fh7bo4hp2c 2 месяца назад

      Do you change the chain link often? It seems that if we were to change the link every 300km it will cost a lot more than using an off the shelf lube and changing the chain at 5000km.

    • @global_nomad.
      @global_nomad. 2 месяца назад

      @@user-fh7bo4hp2c i never change the chain link - never broken a chain or a link so maybe power related - if you use them carefully they should last fine

  • @steva_nolimits
    @steva_nolimits Год назад +1

    The Magic Wax man 💪 no1 know with ur videos how many people started to wax their chains

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      Like any industry improvements are made over time.

  • @danielbingham3124
    @danielbingham3124 4 месяца назад

    Thank you for your instruction of a cheap effective way of waxing chains. Seems like most youtubers are pushing the overhyped. expensive special waxes.

  • @genixia
    @genixia Год назад +2

    I assume that the excess of shaved wax keeps the solution near saturation, and shaking the bottle simply adds the energy needed to ensure complete saturation. Have you tried making the solution with molten wax and naptha in similar ratios? I'd think that the excess wax would precipitate out as fairly fine particles. If that's the case you could simply melt the wax in jar in a warm oven (170F) before adding it to a jar containing naptha. Along those lines, you could just take clean molten wax from your hotpot next time you refill it.

    • @crabtrap
      @crabtrap Год назад +1

      no need just shave wax into jar. then add naptha to jar and cap. it will desolve wax. then just pour jar into bottle

  • @RayStrilec
    @RayStrilec 4 месяца назад

    I've viewed many of your videos and they are very informative and helpful. I am a chain waxing convert, thanks to you. I have noticed that you have recommended different liquid wax mixtures, over time, using different chemical agents. Early on you recommended paraffin oil, you later explain that the oil may attract dirt but may be best in wet environments to prevent rust. In other videos you recommend using 99% isopropyl alcohol and in this video, you recommend Shelite (naphtha, here in the US). Could you explain the evolution or the benefits or detriments of the different agents? Might be the subject of a separate video.

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  4 месяца назад +1

      Some chemicals are not available or have different names in certain countries. For the bottled wax shellite or white spirits is best.

  • @montrose252
    @montrose252 Год назад

    I'm gonna try this!

  • @BEATHLETIC01
    @BEATHLETIC01 5 месяцев назад +1

    You are the best.

  • @paulperry2120
    @paulperry2120 Год назад +2

    Okay I made some lube up this way. Magic mate. Best lube yet and so easy.

  • @lukemiller1873
    @lukemiller1873 Год назад +2

    Steve, you're the best mate! I've watched all your videos and have learnt so much. Thanks to you, I managed to successfully build my own bike from the frame up. I figured if I can build it, I can service it. Keep the videos coming mate!

  • @stevemullin1195
    @stevemullin1195 Год назад +2

    I currently ride a recumbent trike and switched to the wax/PTFE hot wax last year...and I'm now switching to the silica hot wax mix for my tour this year. My chain is over 10' long and plan to switch to a 2nd chain every 300-400 miles. I have the super secret drip wax lube to treat the chain along my route if it needs it. Hoping to stay at some hostels and warm shower hosts along the way where I can do a proper rewax using a double boiler setup. My tour this year will be from Seattle to LA along the pacific coast route which is over 1600 miles...hoping to do this in less than 2 months averaging 40-50 mile days with camping everynight. I've got the park chain cleaner which I can use with degreaser, rubbing alcohol to clean the chain then treat the chain with my drip lube if the chain gets to dirty...but most of the route is on tarmac. Any suggestions on ways to maintain the chain on long tours?

    • @corvus400
      @corvus400 Год назад

      Try vax remover liquid for cleaning your vaxed chain.

  • @stefanwagener
    @stefanwagener Год назад +1

    I swapped to waxing two years ago by following the advices here and couldn't be more happy. Thanks a lot!
    But one question to hot rewaxing in the rice cooker. After initial waxing the wax in the cooker is still clean, but after reusing it for the first rewaxing the wax gets dirty because the chain isn't really clean after using boiling water. When do you think is the point of replacing the wax in the cooker completely? Or do you use fresh wax every time? I saw that the bottom of wax in the cooker is more dirty than the top, so probably some sediments falling to the ground of the cooker. So cutting the lower part of the chunk might leave a more clean upper part of the wax but cutting isn't really easy. So any tips when to replace the wax or how to maximize the reuse of the wax?

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +4

      It happens to all immersive waxing unfortunately. Even so , with the wax going greyer with every waxing the chain life is still very long because of the low friction. I recommend making a new wax batch before it gets dark grey.

  • @pbalerig
    @pbalerig 2 месяца назад +1

    Great videos always thank you

  • @dirkhunt9425
    @dirkhunt9425 Год назад +1

    Hello OZ, I have been using the PTFE/Paraffin mix and it works great. I keep 3 chains for my road bike and 3 chains for my gravel bike and just swap chains when needed. (that way I am only heating the crockpot with wax and a temperature controller one every other month or so). A year in and my chains have yet to show any wear at all. With the concerns of forever plastics, have you tried WS2 (Tungsten Disulfide) instead of the PTFE?

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +3

      Yes , tried WS2 quite a few years ago but it didn't prove as efficient as PTFE.

  • @sirbillmumptono.b.e.3946
    @sirbillmumptono.b.e.3946 7 месяцев назад

    Many thanks, Phil, UK

  • @jonedmonds283
    @jonedmonds283 Год назад +1

    Very Good Video

  • @MuckingMunt
    @MuckingMunt 8 месяцев назад

    Another suggestion; I use one of those free-standing common kitchen cheese graters, rather than a knife to more quickly granulate the wax from your source candles or block of wax.
    Just chose which side of the grater gives the finest shavings!

  • @speckles9251
    @speckles9251 Год назад +5

    I don't think we want, nor need to spread PTFE all over the place.
    I get along with my waxed chains WITHOUT that stuff just fine.
    Otherwise, good experimenting.

  • @aldunne2001
    @aldunne2001 Год назад +6

    As always thanks Steve. I have been using your “recipes” for hot wax with a slow cooker for 5+ years with great success for both road and mountain biking. The only issue I have is that winters are very cold here (Canada) and I find the wax results in poor shifting when cold, say less than -10C. I can only attribute this to the wax getting too hard. Is there a way to adjust the recipes, either hot wax or drip wax that would make it softer for cold temperatures? Maybe mix the paraffin wax with paraffin oil, or thin it out with Xylene? Any thought on what experiments I can try for cold weather? Cheers!

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +5

      You can soften it with paraffin oil. Try half by volume , that's 50:50

    • @SniperSnake50BMG
      @SniperSnake50BMG Год назад

      Yeah I was thinking of that cases using liquid paraffin.

    • @Eduardo1007
      @Eduardo1007 Год назад

      How does it work for mountain biking? How often do you need to re-do the bath process?

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      Hot wax every 300km

    • @oranjid
      @oranjid Год назад

      We do not have really cold winters, but 0 to -10C happen - depending on the mixture I started to get issues earlier. Wax does not last that long, shifting quality then decreases already after 80-120km and not the usual 450. I think it might make sense to run a winter chain - with a different mixture. My normal mix is 100% stick candles, that wax works well in most conditions, with PTFE powder. I tested mixing 30-50% of tea candles into the mix. Have to test around a bit, they seem to have a higher oil content. The "no stick" effect is slightly reduced though. But the higher oil content seems to work better in freezing temperatures. It is a bit of a compromise though and I would not want to contaminate my summer chains or wax mix with those candles, and it takes some experimenting to get the mixture just right.

  • @darciobraga6941
    @darciobraga6941 Год назад +1

    OZ I use you was formula with PTFE. That is fantastic!
    About this video I have a question or observation
    I believe that naphtha can damage the bike paint. For that reason I’d stick with alcohol.

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      If you spill some on your paintwork simply wipe it off with a clean rag. The natpha evaporates quickly anyhow.

  • @juliusceazardeala9231
    @juliusceazardeala9231 Год назад

    Awesome!

  • @kostais
    @kostais Год назад +1

    First of all thank you very much!
    I tried to repeat both of your recepies of liquid wax.
    Of course I could not find the exact ingredients on my local market.
    I use:
    - xylol instead of xylene
    - kerosine instead of parafin oil
    - white-spirit instead of shellite
    These are probably not the same, but this works!
    The only problem is the smell of my ingredients.
    Do xylene and shellite have strong smell?

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      Xylene evaporates very quickly leaving no smell. Shellite has very slight smell.

  • @DavidCanet
    @DavidCanet 4 месяца назад

    chains get dirt because of electrostatic when the bicycle metalic frame moves and the air charges the frame and dust sticks to the frame very little . after several hours or days the black dirt becomes visible . so the grease helps.

  • @cotteeskid
    @cotteeskid Год назад

    so to be clear Steve, this Shellite ready to use version is fine to use over the top of the Xylene/paraffin hot bath mix from your earlier vids? While you just mentioned the hot immersion wax, I wasn't sure if you had yet another version/carrier that I had missed somewhere along the line. As always, great vids mate.

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      Yes , you can use it along with the previous waxing methods. However this shellite recipe is the best one.

  • @JeanFrancoisDesrosiers
    @JeanFrancoisDesrosiers Год назад +1

    Careful with all and anything that is/was in contact with naphta. Mostly that paper towel you throw in the trash. It can react and ignite.

  • @todormashev5337
    @todormashev5337 Год назад

    Thank you for the advice! In order to avoid flaking after hot waxing, your advise is to add some paraffin oil into the wax. Could you tell me what should be the ratio?

  • @yodel_diploma2315
    @yodel_diploma2315 Год назад +1

    Very good advice! Would this work with an atomizer also?

    • @yodel_diploma2315
      @yodel_diploma2315 Год назад +1

      Update: I tested a squirt bottle, unfortunately it jams up quickly.

  • @DavidSeigneur
    @DavidSeigneur 10 месяцев назад +2

    I just waxed my chains for two bikes using the melted wax + PFTE, and looking forward to seeing the results. I'm really interested in how this liquid wax would work for "touch up" on the chain. Wouldn't the solvent used in this recipe also dissolve the wax previously on the chain? I'm just wondering how you get ahead with this process. Thanks for any feedback!

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  10 месяцев назад +2

      As long as the carrier evaporates fairly quickly its fine. I suggest wait 5 minutes after application before riding .

  • @mzimmerman12
    @mzimmerman12 6 месяцев назад

    I saw recently on Durianriders channel where you used 99% Isopropal alcohol instead of Naptha. Is that the latest way to go vs the Naptha as that is harder to get your hands on these days. What about Acetone, or mineral spirits, are thos okay to use as well? Love the channel!

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  6 месяцев назад

      Simplest and cheapest is white spirits if you can get that?

  • @liquidSpin
    @liquidSpin Год назад

    Why is using the crock pot method still better than dipping the chain in a bottle of the wax/shelite solution and letting it sit for a couple of hours It just seems so much easier and accomplishes the same thing. You have convinced me through your videos to start waxing my chain for my road bike. I'll continue to use chain lube for my mountain bike since I still have 4 unused bottles of chain lube.

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      Immersion leaves the wax harder once it has cooled whereas with a solution the wax remains softer until the carrier evaporates fully.

    • @liquidSpin
      @liquidSpin Год назад

      @@stevenleffanue ahhhhh I see~ Good to know! Thank you so much!

  • @MickB235
    @MickB235 Год назад

    Glad I found this video, I have a couple of questions,firstly, my wife is into using candles from DUSK in a big way and when they get to the point of no longer being able to be lit there are remnants left over, would these be ok to use given that they're scented with oils etc? Secondly, I have easy access to avgas (aviation gasoline...which I've been told that shellite is very similar to) and JET-A1 (aviation turbine fuel, or aviation kerosene) . Would either of these be suitable as the liquid carrier?

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад

      If the scented candles are paraffin wax they should be good to use. Sorry I don't know anything about Avgas.

  • @petrhanak6950
    @petrhanak6950 Год назад +6

    I was wondering what this shellite is in EU. Well, it is white gas, reinigungsbenzin, or technicky benzin in Czech. Good tip from OZ!

    • @mrsmradoch9584
      @mrsmradoch9584 Год назад

      Taky hledám. :) Asi zkusím severochema White Spirit?

    • @mrsmradoch9584
      @mrsmradoch9584 Год назад

      Najdi komentář ot Eric S ... Píšou tam že použít se dá kerosene(petrolej) aceton a white spirits... Asi zkusím tu petrolej protože je nejlevnější :) u acetonu píšou že moc rychle mizi

    • @jybuys
      @jybuys 5 дней назад

      In Dutch it is 'wasbenzine'.

  • @Threadexpress
    @Threadexpress Год назад

    Thanks for the video! I have been buying and using R&Roll on my E Bike for years. This will save me heaps!
    How do you really know the hot wax method is better? I have been using the solvent type and measuring my chain regularly...and I got three years on my first chain before it started to show some minor wear- just changed it. Cheers Cliff

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад

      Rock n Roll was one we did compare with. Whilst initially a good lubricant it collected dirt very easily and that contamination seeped into the chain links easily.

    • @Threadexpress
      @Threadexpress Год назад

      @@stevenleffanue I have been using R&Roll blue, which I think is just wax and PTFE. Or are you saying that your brew will carry contaminant into the chain also? Cheers Cliff

  • @bigfrogs
    @bigfrogs Год назад

    I'm just in the process of making some of this and have been hot waxing my chain with your formula for a couple of years now with great results. Would bottled Squirt be ok to use with your recipe as I have just found a bottle I bought ages ago but never used or would I haveto deep clean my chain after use before rewaxing?

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      Should be OK with squirt lube. As squirt attracts dirt tho you would need to deep clean your chain or the dirt will get into your wax batch.

  • @DDai-qd8uk
    @DDai-qd8uk Год назад +1

    Hey mate, curious if you ever tried tungsten disulfide and how it compares to ptfe in your testing? Or perhaps combined them?

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +3

      PTFE presented less friction.WS2 leaves grey marks on what it contacts.

  • @nikolaosstavrou5327
    @nikolaosstavrou5327 6 месяцев назад

    white candles have only some color and steatine its an fatty acid and makes the wax more white hard and it melts in higher temperature.

  • @darrylearnshaw7102
    @darrylearnshaw7102 11 месяцев назад

    Assuming you can use pre-mixed wax/ptfe with shellite?

  • @johnmaheu4037
    @johnmaheu4037 Год назад

    What adjustments are needed for cold weather, say less than 0 C when bike and lube are in a cold garage? I've been trying the standard Squirt in these temps and it definitely seems off. Thanks for the video.

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      Add more solvent to keep it liquid for the application. Once in the chain it doesn't matter what the temperature.

  • @rivnuts7398
    @rivnuts7398 Год назад

    Some time ago you posted a similar video on how to make your own liquid wax using paraffin, lamp oil and xylene. I tried that recipe and had difficulty in keeping it liquid with heating and this quit making it. Is this current recipe better in that regard and what led you to abandon the lamp oil and switch to naphtha?

    • @stevenleffanue
      @stevenleffanue  Год назад +1

      This is better... always improving , it's an ongoing process.