A very real shame that this lovely Mk2 Mondeo Ghia X didn't offer you the chance to experience the standard ride and handling of the Mk1 and Mk2 Ford Mondeo which was a Masterclass when they were released in 1993. I have driven a few of them in 1.8 LX guise and they were top of the class for steering, seat comfort, handling and ergonomics. They did look quite anonymous like many 1990s cars but they do look distinctive now. Very tough and dependable and cheap to own. Mechanics commented on the strength of build in them as well compared to the Sierra that they replaced. Ghia interiors really were rather beautiful. The steering response for a front wheel drive family saloon was never really bettered until the Alfa Romeo 156 came along except that; A. The 156 had a much more inferior ride quality. B. The 156 had nowhere near the passenger or luggage capacity of the Mondeo . And C. The Alfa was a far more expensive and exclusive car than the humble Ford.
Sir, we would have preferred the standard wheels and suspension, but the owner likes it, and quite a few others who have watched the video too as well, so it's clearly just a matter of personal taste. We do hope to have a go in a Mark I and also an Alfa 156 at some point, as those 156s are very much cars for the discerning gentleman...
Many thanks for another enjoyable video, Mr L. This reminds me of my first proper grown up car, after spending my 20s and 30s in various hot hatches and the like, with 40 looming in 1999 I bought a Mondeo Ghia X 2.5 V6 auto. A wonderful car it was, seemingly incredibly smooth and plush after what had gone before, it was also still very good to drive.😊
By the way, the original multi spoke alloy wheels had a very shiny finish, which needed to be refurbished by Ford under warranty within a year or so, I seem to recall.
I much prefer the standard alloy wheels to the ones on the car, but the owner loves them, and it is his car, so my opinion is not really the one which counts in this instance. They were indeed very shiny, and we like the sound of the Duratec V6 as well....
Had two Mk1s, Lx & Si, very reliable but the Si sills rotted, (body kit made it worse) had her 5 years , drove lovely. Now have a Mk1 Ghia parked up needing a little tlc.
I think you're being slightly unfair saying the ride is ruined Mr Lloyd, Sir! In fact, I shall refer you to 15:26 in the review..."steering and handling are very, very nice 😊"....
Thank you for this video. This was a very popular car in New Zealand, although it was a victim of its own success, as it's hard to find one that has not been thrashed. A person from my Mum's Church has a hatchback version of this Mondeo though! A wooden gearstick? I love it!
This is my car, and can I just add a couple of snippets of info about the wheels etc. I'd only had the car a few days when Joseph reviewed it, and the wheel and ride height choices were the previous owners. I also, generally, prefer a factory standard look, and was all set to revert to the standard suspension and wheels when i bought it. HOWEVER, in the flesh, the car looks so much better than in photos or on video. The combination of the wheels, ride height, colour and the fact its a booted saloon, really works as a package, so for now, I'll be keeping it as is. I'm also in my 50's, with a dodgy back, and the ride is far from being uncomfortable, and is an easy compromise for a slightly modified look.
I am afraid that we are going to have agree to disagree about the ride, as I am afraid that I didn't like it at all. I also don't really like the modified look, I would prefer it standard. However, if you like it, and if you don't find the ride too unsettled, then that's really the most important thing. As always, I am extremely privileged to have driven this car, and thank you ever so much indeed for bringing it down, it is in absolutely lovely condition.
Sir, I have yet to have seen a car which has divided opinion on this channel as much as this Mondeo. Some people, including Mr James, like the wheels and suspension setup. I am not a fan of it, but that doesn't really matter, as it is not my car.
A most agreeable interior indeed, MR Lloyd. We do like and appreciate top spec luxury models of once everyday cars. I tend to agree about the suspension and wheels, those lovely period correct chrome multi spoke alloys wheels, were very eye catching at the time.
Yes sir, I had a look at what standard Ghia Xs would have looked like at the time, and they do look rather agreeable, particularly in dark green or dark blue with a beige leather interior....
Such a nice car, even if pretty old by now. Never seen any Mondeo Ghia - most used cars here, in Russia, were low-spec. The biggest "Mondeo mystery" for me was quality question. Americans were damn angry about their Contour/Mystique saloons; did mk1/mk2 Mondeo have many electrical or other issues?
I think the problem for the US market was that the Contour/Mystique was substantially smaller than the models it replaced and Americans do like large cars. If memory serves the My Old Car channel did a video about the Mystique/Contour and why it flopped in the US.
Yes, the Mark II had better legroom, but it wasn't too much of a difference from memory. I recall that the Contour and Mystique were quite poorly received by the motoring press in America after some of those reliability concerns, despite them being initially optimistic about them.
This was actually the first shape Mondeo to be sold brand new in New Zealand (1997, replacing the Telstar, the Mondeo racing achievements of Paul Radisich were still in recent memory back then and probably influenced the decision to sell it here!).
Very very nice. I prefer the look of the Mk1 but the Mk2 looks best in saloon form imo. Treat any rot, Lanoguard it and it would be a great modern classic daily. Ghia X toys most welcome
Yes, I think that you are right about the Mark II saloons. Appalling rust prone, like many 1990s cars, but, as you say, you can protect them with a bit of effort. Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
Funnily enough, I filmed a Mark III Mondeo on No Budget Reviews in 2021, and one of the very first episodes of No Budget Reviews (from March 2020) was a Jaguar X-Type, so we have both bases covered there.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes, I enjoy driving an X-type and have a lot of fun repairing it and taking videos about these repairs. Good luck to you in your business!
'Tonight on Top Gear Joseph has special review of the Diesel Mark II Mondeo'...CRASH! 'Oh no some idiot crane operator has dropped another diesel Mondeo on top of it!'
The Good Taste Police might well charge this car with the possession of fake plastic wood - but I kinda like it somehow! However, I've never been convinced that the (very) prominent chrome grill grafted onto the nose of the Mk2 Mondeo was a complete success. Overall though a increasingly rare, and by no means undesirable, car I think.
We do hope at some point to do a Mark I Mondeo on the channel, sir, which does not have the chrome grille. I don't mind it, but it is all down to personal taste. We got excited about the wood, sir, even if it is fake!
Ford's knee-jerk reaction to the eminently dull styling of the Mondeo by adding bulbous front & rear lamps. It's a Mk2. Even Ford have a different code for it: Mk1 CDW27 Mk2 CD162 Mk3 CD132 Many cars of the '90s seemed to be really dull. The '80s gave us sharp-lines and clearly-defined styling. The '90s just seemed to be softened-down '80s or just blobby styling.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Great ! My dad had an N plate 2.0i GLX many years ago. Very comfortable and well equipped on the inside; nice velour unholstry. I can't really remember much else about it as I was working and living in another part of the country at the time.
A very real shame that this lovely Mk2 Mondeo Ghia X didn't offer you the chance to experience the standard ride and handling of the Mk1 and Mk2 Ford Mondeo which was a Masterclass when they were released in 1993. I have driven a few of them in 1.8 LX guise and they were top of the class for steering, seat comfort, handling and ergonomics. They did look quite anonymous like many 1990s cars but they do look distinctive now. Very tough and dependable and cheap to own. Mechanics commented on the strength of build in them as well compared to the Sierra that they replaced.
Ghia interiors really were rather beautiful.
The steering response for a front wheel drive family saloon was never really bettered until the Alfa Romeo 156 came along except that;
A. The 156 had a much more inferior ride quality.
B. The 156 had nowhere near the passenger or luggage capacity of the Mondeo .
And C. The Alfa was a far more expensive and exclusive car than the humble Ford.
Sir, we would have preferred the standard wheels and suspension, but the owner likes it, and quite a few others who have watched the video too as well, so it's clearly just a matter of personal taste. We do hope to have a go in a Mark I and also an Alfa 156 at some point, as those 156s are very much cars for the discerning gentleman...
I think the fact it’s an actual saloon not a hatch makes that rarer than you think
Yes, the saloons were always rarer than the hatchacks, weren't they?
Many thanks for another enjoyable video, Mr L. This reminds me of my first proper grown up car, after spending my 20s and 30s in various hot hatches and the like, with 40 looming in 1999 I bought a Mondeo Ghia X 2.5 V6 auto. A wonderful car it was, seemingly incredibly smooth and plush after what had gone before, it was also still very good to drive.😊
By the way, the original multi spoke alloy wheels had a very shiny finish, which needed to be refurbished by Ford under warranty within a year or so, I seem to recall.
I much prefer the standard alloy wheels to the ones on the car, but the owner loves them, and it is his car, so my opinion is not really the one which counts in this instance. They were indeed very shiny, and we like the sound of the Duratec V6 as well....
Had two Mk1s, Lx & Si, very reliable but the Si sills rotted, (body kit made it worse) had her 5 years , drove lovely. Now have a Mk1 Ghia parked up needing a little tlc.
Yes, the rust on Mark I and Mark II Mondeos was quite bad... Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
I actually liked the Mk1 when I worked for a Ford franchise as a body fitter, thought they were built well back in the early 90s.
The Mark I was a very important car indeed when it was released in 1993.
Car of the year in Europe 1994..
Indeed!
Them wheels and ride height look spot on
The owner thinks so too, but I am afraid that I disagree, as it has completely ruined the ride.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I understand but still..looks great 😂
Nowhere was I more aware than when reviewing this car just how people's tastes vary when it comes to making modifications!
I think you're being slightly unfair saying the ride is ruined Mr Lloyd, Sir! In fact, I shall refer you to 15:26 in the review..."steering and handling are very, very nice 😊"....
The steering and handling are very good, sir, but the ride was too hard for my taste, and I could feel it within a few yards of driving it.
Thank you for this video. This was a very popular car in New Zealand, although it was a victim of its own success, as it's hard to find one that has not been thrashed. A person from my Mum's Church has a hatchback version of this Mondeo though! A wooden gearstick? I love it!
Yes, the wooden gearlevers were far more common back in the day compared with now.
This is my car, and can I just add a couple of snippets of info about the wheels etc. I'd only had the car a few days when Joseph reviewed it, and the wheel and ride height choices were the previous owners. I also, generally, prefer a factory standard look, and was all set to revert to the standard suspension and wheels when i bought it. HOWEVER, in the flesh, the car looks so much better than in photos or on video. The combination of the wheels, ride height, colour and the fact its a booted saloon, really works as a package, so for now, I'll be keeping it as is. I'm also in my 50's, with a dodgy back, and the ride is far from being uncomfortable, and is an easy compromise for a slightly modified look.
I am afraid that we are going to have agree to disagree about the ride, as I am afraid that I didn't like it at all. I also don't really like the modified look, I would prefer it standard. However, if you like it, and if you don't find the ride too unsettled, then that's really the most important thing. As always, I am extremely privileged to have driven this car, and thank you ever so much indeed for bringing it down, it is in absolutely lovely condition.
Just catching up on my videos, what a lovely looking Mondeo. I think the wheels really suit the Mondeo, a bit different to a standard Ghia X
Sir, I have yet to have seen a car which has divided opinion on this channel as much as this Mondeo. Some people, including Mr James, like the wheels and suspension setup. I am not a fan of it, but that doesn't really matter, as it is not my car.
A most agreeable interior indeed, MR Lloyd. We do like and appreciate top spec luxury models of once everyday cars. I tend to agree about the suspension and wheels, those lovely period correct chrome multi spoke alloys wheels, were very eye catching at the time.
Yes sir, I had a look at what standard Ghia Xs would have looked like at the time, and they do look rather agreeable, particularly in dark green or dark blue with a beige leather interior....
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But of course, MR. Lloyd, in saloon body style, it would be most agreeable.
Very good, sir!
Such a nice car, even if pretty old by now. Never seen any Mondeo Ghia - most used cars here, in Russia, were low-spec.
The biggest "Mondeo mystery" for me was quality question. Americans were damn angry about their Contour/Mystique saloons; did mk1/mk2 Mondeo have many electrical or other issues?
I think the problem for the US market was that the Contour/Mystique was substantially smaller than the models it replaced and Americans do like large cars. If memory serves the My Old Car channel did a video about the Mystique/Contour and why it flopped in the US.
@@dominicjackson2498 yep, for sure that thing was important; European car journalists complained about legroom in the rear too.
Yes, the Mark II had better legroom, but it wasn't too much of a difference from memory. I recall that the Contour and Mystique were quite poorly received by the motoring press in America after some of those reliability concerns, despite them being initially optimistic about them.
I had one exactly like that one in metallic red 17 years ago, it was a good car👌
We did like it, sir, and the Ghia X specification does give a number of very nice luxuries.
This was actually the first shape Mondeo to be sold brand new in New Zealand (1997, replacing the Telstar, the Mondeo racing achievements of Paul Radisich were still in recent memory back then and probably influenced the decision to sell it here!).
We remember Paul Radisich, sir, he was a big name in Touring Cars over here back in the day.
I have a Netherlands built uk spec 99 2.0 ghia standard as a hatchback. Lovely smooth ride
Thank you ever so much indeed for watching and commenting, sounds like a great car.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting hopefully you are going to review it soon as we have been in touch 👍🏻
Thank you again for your e-mail!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting no need to thank me. It will be my pleasure to let you drive a standard version without modifications of any kind
Very very nice. I prefer the look of the Mk1 but the Mk2 looks best in saloon form imo. Treat any rot, Lanoguard it and it would be a great modern classic daily. Ghia X toys most welcome
Yes, I think that you are right about the Mark II saloons. Appalling rust prone, like many 1990s cars, but, as you say, you can protect them with a bit of effort. Thank you very much indeed for watching and commenting!
Very unusual Mondeo being a saloon. I like it a lot. That walnut dashboard trim is rather decadent.
Sir, we did enjoy it, although the wheels and suspension were not exactly to my taste...
One can buy a front wheel drive Jaguar X-type, which is basically the next gen Mondeo, but has got a classic look.
Funnily enough, I filmed a Mark III Mondeo on No Budget Reviews in 2021, and one of the very first episodes of No Budget Reviews (from March 2020) was a Jaguar X-Type, so we have both bases covered there.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Sorry, I just meant "One can buy" because I have already got an X-type.
Very good, I enjoyed the X-Type I drove three years ago.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes, I enjoy driving an X-type and have a lot of fun repairing it and taking videos about these repairs. Good luck to you in your business!
Thank you very much indeed!
is there difference in body stiffness between hatch(or liftback) and sedan ?
I have just driven a hatchback Mark I Mondeo, and I wouldn't say that there is any noticeable difference.
@ hatchback seems to be more practical and better looking imao
Yes, they were more popular.
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Hi how about us whu need of rebuild it again.... As a person whu had it.... But had a seizing an angen...
That's an interesting response to the contents of the video...
'Tonight on Top Gear Joseph has special review of the Diesel Mark II Mondeo'...CRASH! 'Oh no some idiot crane operator has dropped another diesel Mondeo on top of it!'
We wouldn't be able to discuss it anyway, sir...
The Good Taste Police might well charge this car with the possession of fake plastic wood - but I kinda like it somehow! However, I've never been convinced that the (very) prominent chrome grill grafted onto the nose of the Mk2 Mondeo was a complete success. Overall though a increasingly rare, and by no means undesirable, car I think.
We do hope at some point to do a Mark I Mondeo on the channel, sir, which does not have the chrome grille. I don't mind it, but it is all down to personal taste. We got excited about the wood, sir, even if it is fake!
No wonder James Bond had one.
It was a Mark IV Mondeo, sir.
The Mk2 Mondeo is a Mk1 that’s had a whack with the ugly stick. Dashboard sponsored by Thornton’s toffee !
I can't remember if the Mark II facelift was well received at the time or not, actually...
Ford's knee-jerk reaction to the eminently dull styling of the Mondeo by adding bulbous front & rear lamps.
It's a Mk2.
Even Ford have a different code for it:
Mk1 CDW27
Mk2 CD162
Mk3 CD132
Many cars of the '90s seemed to be really dull. The '80s gave us sharp-lines and clearly-defined styling. The '90s just seemed to be softened-down '80s or just blobby styling.
Hoping to have a Mark I Mondeo on the channel at some point soon as well.
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Great !
My dad had an N plate 2.0i GLX many years ago.
Very comfortable and well equipped on the inside; nice velour unholstry.
I can't really remember much else about it as I was working and living in another part of the country at the time.
Since my last comment , My Mk1 has now been damaged!! Need two N/s doors now, Thanks to the #### who done it.🤬
Oh no! You can't be serious? That's such a shame!
Afraid so..
So sorry to hear that!
Thanks mate
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Did you enjoy the video, sir!