Yeah, they really lack transparency, with the way they recorded themselves shooting 500 rounds directly in front of a camera and then posted it on RUclips.
@@YUMLiberalTearsto be fair, this could’ve been a cherry picked shotgun that had been gone over by their guns-smiths before shooting. What people like about the James reeves burn downs is that he grabs an off the wall unit and tests that, no cherry picking the best parts, no making sure it’s lubed and ready to go, just buy it and burn it.
@@XneverstopfightingX there's also the issue that this test is specifically working on low temperatures, which could have worked to the shotgun's effect since it means the barrel is losing heat to the environment more efficiently. Most of the time, you would be working with temperatures of maybe 25 to 37 degrees Celsius
@@XneverstopfightingX Many of the reviews of firearms by most of the "name brand" reviewers have their guns supplied to them either directly by the manufacturer or through a distributor, and you can bet the farm that those evaluation guns have been gone through by a master gunsmith to make sure that it will perform flawlessly. This isn't just a conspiracy claim, the manufacturers have a distinct vested interest in placing evaluation guns that have been thoroughly gone over to ensure they work perfectly so that the reviewer can give a glowing review of how well the gun worked. What they don't reveal is that the evaluation gun is not necessarily representative of what anyone would walk in and buy off the shelf. There is way too much money to be made to be concerned about ethics.
I bought a panzer m4 almost 2 years ago and I’ve cleaned it about 3-4 times. And have probably shot about 800-1000rds of various shots even low brass and slugs and have never experienced a malfunction Best money ever spent on a shotgun too the point I want to purchase the marine version and I will be purchasing their saiga 12 When they release it.
I bought a PA M4 and I'm really impressed with the money I spent on this clone. On how reliable it is. I haven't had malfunction with it yet if it wasn't a user error. I have thrown 7 1/2 birdshot, 00 buckshot, rifle slugs, goose 3" birdshot. I'm trying to find anything that won't let it run. I have a coworker who actually owns am Benelli M4 and he couldn't even cycle birdshot in it. After sending him a video he was so mad. Definitely so far will trust this. I just have to buy the extended Benelli magazine for 7+1, the Midwest handguard, a red dot with a sling and flashlight and I will be all set. This shotgun is honestly a game changer for price. People just need to do more reviews on it.
@@guaporeturns9472 If you have a panzer gun, you are very lucky. I recommend you to try and buy the gun. It can fire up to 5000 shots. It is a very good gun, a quality and determined gun. My best regards.
@marct.9805 yeah honestly I would just have to spend the money on parte that are interchangeable with the Benelli M4. I will upgrade it when I have some extra money
I have purchased two of these with walnut furniture. One of the fore grips was loose, too short, Witch under recoil exaggerated the forces on it, and it failed. Contacted Panzer Arms for a warranty replacement, they asked for pictures, which I sent and have been completely ignored. Now I have a rubber band holding the grips together. Thank you Panzer arms.
I appreciate you guys coming out to The Gathering this past weekend. I loved shooting your M4 and M2 and letting me shoot it A LOT! I am sold. This is the next shotgun I buy!
Don't believe anything you hear and believe only half of what you see. 😀😉 Lots of shills on youtube and some are paid incentives to deride👎one product and praise 👍another. And lastly, all semi-automatic shotguns, by their very nature, are less reliable than pump shotguns. You have to find the shotgun shell and load type that will cycle reliably in YOUR shotgun.
they are not properly breaking in the shotgun that's why they are saying the gun isn't reliable all semi auto's need a breaking in and you see them running it out of the box with light loads not the proper way to break in a shotgun.
@@brandondavis4306 agreed I looked into benelli m4 forums and they're stating the exact same thing. Heavy break in loads before moving on to bird shot.
Most of the other RUclipsrs malfunctions wouldn't have happened if they would have dried the ARGO gas system when first getting the shotgun. If you do some research, you can find a video of a guy going over this in detail..
I own a Benelli M4. It is a fantastic shotgun. The quality is near perfect. I just ordered your Panzer M4. I look forward to breaking it in and doing a comparison.
Gotta say I am really glad you guys did this video my friend. You helped me make my decision. A local sporting goods store here in town has the real deal Benelli M4 on the rack for just over $1800, and I came so close to spending the money on one. I’m glad to say I didn’t. I’ve been a huge fan of Benelli shotguns for well over 20 years now, my favorite model being the 12 gauge Montefeltro. I’ve carried one for hundreds of miles chasing rooster pheasants and quail. My Montefeltro has NEVER let me down. Thousands of rounds through it shooting clays and birds on the wing. All I’ve ever had to do is clean it. So I KNOW the quality Benelli puts out. But Panzer Arms putting this shotty out for 1/4 the price, I really had to question the quality. Seriously question it. After watching this video I am happy to say it’s no longer a question in my mind. I’ve read both good and bad reviews on the Panzer Arms M4 clone, the bad reviews coming mostly from people who don’t actually own one OR ended up buying another manufacturers clone and got gipped. May I make a suggestion though; You guys should package and ship your product in a plastic blow molded case built just for the M4 clone. THAT would definitely be more of a sign that you actually have and care about the quality of your shotgun. Every Benelli I’ve ever purchased has come in it’s own plastic case made for it. And 1 last concern I have, would you be so kind as to send me a Panzer Arms COAT like the one you are wearing in your video ? Size 2XL Hey, it doesn’t hurt to ask 🤷♂️ I will be making my purchase next week, as this week I will be out of town on an end of season fishing trip. But you can message me for info on where to send the swag. Thank you again.
Great beat down guys. I had to laugh at the end when you did the "do dah, do dah" bit, good to see even in another country Foghorn Leghorn is still funny !
Just ordered the disruptor gray,/ walnut stock version. I hope it isnt a jamomatic! As this video is great ,,this gun is almost certainly hand picked an every part taken apart an polished.So im hoping for the best.
Start of the video, gloves on because the air is cold. Middle of video, gloves off because the barrel is warm! End of video, gloves on because barrel is hot.
Just picked mine up today from ffl, gonna clean off shipping oul and lube it, then off too shoot, looking forward to it. I want to say that was a really good Idea from you to do this test and show the results. Enough said. Looks pretty damn good. Thanks for the proof you just showed in the quality and pride in your m4. I'm a big fan now.
I've owned a Benenelli M1 Super 90 for the last 25 years or so. Runs flawlessly. It's got a quirky operating system, but it's no big deal once you train on it. Thinking about a second shotgun because you can't have too many shotguns, especially these days. I think I just found my second one here. No need to retrain on a different operating system.
I have a panzer AR 12 I don't shoot a hole lot I shoot a couple hundred rounds on the weekend's. I've had it six months now and put about 3000 rounds through it I had one failure to feed the very first time I shot it and that was some 30 year old hand loaded ammo my father had in the shead so I know it was a ammo issue not the panzer because I never used that ammo again and never had a single problem with the panzer. I like the panzer so much I got my father a M4 for Christmas and I got me one as well you just can't beat the price.
I watched every shot! I thought throw that thing in the snow! At the end you did! Today, I picked up the Beretta 1301, but hold on, The Panzer M4 is coming in a few days! Yeah, I bought the Panzer M4 also, I'm not here to compare. I just wanted both.
@@answersforlooking9430 A variety, from low velocity to high. I made a video of it all. Took it all apart, pre-fire inspection and test firing. Click my name and then in the "guns" section. And a follow up "short" video someone requested to see the condition of the bolt afterwards.. Its been great to me.
@@OlujaDoTokija i couldn't find that video. I know he's tested M4 clones, but have not seen the one using Panzer Arms. He's done SDS Imports and ErmoX versions. Also Adler Arms and MAC 1014.
@@OlujaDoTokija there is a Classic Arms video reviewing Panzer as a company, and the company (Panzer) confirms in the comments that James never tested a Panzer at the time of the video. There was a bunch of comments wanting James to do a burndown since he does collabs with Classic.
Damn, I use to go with no gloves and never had a problem, but after I hit 56 something went wrong with my circulation and now my hands hurt and lock up in cold like that. I really want to save to buy one.
I just got my M4 and do the new ones not come with the three positions tube anymore. I bought the stock and grip and was extremely sad to find out mine didn’t have the tube needed.
Will the 5 position tube work? I saw that classic arms has one, but I can’t find any info on if the PA M4 collapsible stock (that is 3 positions) will work with a 3 position stock tube
@@killerjack111Thank you very much for your response! I couldn’t find a 3 position stock tube anywhere, only a 5 position one, so this is extremely helpful.
Considering that you referenced the TFB channel test, did you ever contact them to find out why their Panzer M4 had so many problems and could not get to 250 rounds???
These comments are hysterical. Panzer guys defending their purchase and Benelli guys thinking because they spend $2000 that everything else is shit. Funny thing is I am willing to bet most folks commenting dont own either one, they are parroting what they have read. The Benelli crew pointing out all the failures they see on YT. They dont tell you that TFBTV also had failures with Benelli in the burndown. Iraqveteran888 loved the gun. Classic Firearms loved the gun. Is the Panzer the Benelli? No but its not supposed to be. Its a clone - not a Benelli. Some people legit havent had any issues with their Panzer. Thats a good thing. There are plenty of good reviews on YT using the Panzer. Are they all faking?
Anyone who owns this gun can you tell me if the recoil is significantly less than a pump? thinking about getting one. I bet he was sore after this burn down!
Can we have a M4 clone WITHOUT a pistol grip?! Some of us live in states that have laws that restrict what can own. Pistol grips on semiautomatic shotguns are a no go sadly.
They should be marked with "circles " ........or stars, or bars......5= Cyl bore....4=improved cyl.....3= modified.....2=Improved modified.....1= full choke...............you should "google" info on choke restrictions & what shells to use & what Not to use.
Off course real torture test has standarts and rules such as minus degree test ( left the gun 24 hours in the frige then shot), drop test , left the gun in the salty water whether rust would happen on the metal surface or not, etc. Anyway those are for military torture test standarts so injustice to wait this from such defend shotguns probably not to use war contitions...
@@CharlieeBoiOff camera before test they could have swapped out many internal components with higher quality parts… they could have tweaked and tuned it extensively before the test.
@@guaporeturns9472 so you’re saying it’s possible for the shotgun to last, but only if you do the secret modifications that you didn’t see happen, or had any reason to believe they did other than manufactured suspicion?
Don’t buy from this company! Bought one of their shotguns and it had issues brought it to the gun smith and even they can’t get panzer to call back for warranty stuff so buyer beware
I've heard from many people they can't get panzer customer service to get back to them. That's another red flag. Sorry but the benelli m4 costs more for many reasons. You get what you pay for. I'll stick to the buy once cry once method.
Not everyone can afford a $2000+ shotgun. At least we have manufacturers like this that can help people afford firearms and practice their second amendment rights
@@grizzly-s8763 Yes Sir, you guys should advise the Patriots to get cheap 12 gauge ammo belts to hold the rounds close come D-Day. Thanks for helping them...
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"We investigated ourselves and found no sign of wrongdoing."
Yeah, they really lack transparency, with the way they recorded themselves shooting 500 rounds directly in front of a camera and then posted it on RUclips.
@@YUMLiberalTearsto be fair, this could’ve been a cherry picked shotgun that had been gone over by their guns-smiths before shooting. What people like about the James reeves burn downs is that he grabs an off the wall unit and tests that, no cherry picking the best parts, no making sure it’s lubed and ready to go, just buy it and burn it.
@@XneverstopfightingX there's also the issue that this test is specifically working on low temperatures, which could have worked to the shotgun's effect since it means the barrel is losing heat to the environment more efficiently. Most of the time, you would be working with temperatures of maybe 25 to 37 degrees Celsius
@@XneverstopfightingX Many of the reviews of firearms by most of the "name brand" reviewers have their guns supplied to them either directly by the manufacturer or through a distributor, and you can bet the farm that those evaluation guns have been gone through by a master gunsmith to make sure that it will perform flawlessly. This isn't just a conspiracy claim, the manufacturers have a distinct vested interest in placing evaluation guns that have been thoroughly gone over to ensure they work perfectly so that the reviewer can give a glowing review of how well the gun worked.
What they don't reveal is that the evaluation gun is not necessarily representative of what anyone would walk in and buy off the shelf. There is way too much money to be made to be concerned about ethics.
I bought a panzer m4 almost 2 years ago and I’ve cleaned it about 3-4 times. And have probably shot about 800-1000rds of various shots even low brass and slugs and have never experienced a malfunction Best money ever spent on a shotgun too the point I want to purchase the marine version and I will be purchasing their saiga 12 When they release it.
theyre making a saiga?
@@Brutox6222its already out
It's released $419 during Christmas
Classic Firearms in NC.
How’s it holding up? Does it handle 3in mags ok?
@@guaporeturns9472 you should run those or high brass 2 and 3 quarter loads through about 150 or 200 rounds.
I totally trust my PA M4. The quality is great for the price. Thanks Panzer Arms for these bad ass shotguns. I love them and love your company.
I bought a PA M4 and I'm really impressed with the money I spent on this clone. On how reliable it is. I haven't had malfunction with it yet if it wasn't a user error. I have thrown 7 1/2 birdshot, 00 buckshot, rifle slugs, goose 3" birdshot. I'm trying to find anything that won't let it run. I have a coworker who actually owns am Benelli M4 and he couldn't even cycle birdshot in it. After sending him a video he was so mad. Definitely so far will trust this. I just have to buy the extended Benelli magazine for 7+1, the Midwest handguard, a red dot with a sling and flashlight and I will be all set. This shotgun is honestly a game changer for price. People just need to do more reviews on it.
How’s it holding up?
@@guaporeturns9472 so far pretty good got some federal control wad shells in it now. Juys waiting to put an extended mag on it
@@guaporeturns9472 If you have a panzer gun, you are very lucky. I recommend you to try and buy the gun. It can fire up to 5000 shots. It is a very good gun, a quality and determined gun. My best regards.
Still doing good? Might just buy this and spend the left over change on other stuff at a gun show coming up
@marct.9805 yeah honestly I would just have to spend the money on parte that are interchangeable with the Benelli M4. I will upgrade it when I have some extra money
I love my Panzer M4. No problems at all. Very Pleased, and thank you for bringing this to the U.S.! Great video.
Is this made in turkey?
@@smyers820gm yes
Still working well?
Thanks for the test awesome reliability!!
Can't wait to get one.
Panzer rocks.
I have purchased two of these with walnut furniture. One of the fore grips was loose, too short, Witch under recoil exaggerated the forces on it, and it failed. Contacted Panzer
Arms for a warranty replacement, they asked for pictures, which I sent and have been completely ignored. Now I have a rubber band holding the grips together. Thank you Panzer arms.
I appreciate you guys coming out to The Gathering this past weekend. I loved shooting your M4 and M2 and letting me shoot it A LOT! I am sold. This is the next shotgun I buy!
Did you get one? How’s it holding up?
Thank you posting this. There are youtube videos stating these weapons are not as reliable.
Don't believe anything you hear and believe only half of what you see. 😀😉 Lots of shills on youtube and some are paid incentives to deride👎one product and praise 👍another. And lastly, all semi-automatic shotguns, by their very nature, are less reliable than pump shotguns. You have to find the shotgun shell and load type that will cycle reliably in YOUR shotgun.
thank you
they are not properly breaking in the shotgun that's why they are saying the gun isn't reliable all semi auto's need a breaking in and you see them running it out of the box with light loads not the proper way to break in a shotgun.
@@brandondavis4306 agreed
I looked into benelli m4 forums and they're stating the exact same thing. Heavy break in loads before moving on to bird shot.
Most of the other RUclipsrs malfunctions wouldn't have happened if they would have dried the ARGO gas system when first getting the shotgun. If you do some research, you can find a video of a guy going over this in detail..
"I'm not saying it is the best"
10 seconds later "it's one of the best"
Not sure of your point
I own a Benelli M4. It is a fantastic shotgun. The quality is near perfect. I just ordered your Panzer M4. I look forward to breaking it in and doing a comparison.
update? also, what is this breaking in process
Mad respect to this guy 🎉
Gotta say I am really glad you guys did this video my friend.
You helped me make my decision. A local sporting goods store here in town has the real deal Benelli M4 on the rack for just over $1800, and I came so close to spending the money on one. I’m glad to say I didn’t. I’ve been a huge fan of Benelli shotguns for well over 20 years now, my favorite model being the 12 gauge Montefeltro. I’ve carried one for hundreds of miles chasing rooster pheasants and quail. My Montefeltro has NEVER let me down. Thousands of rounds through it shooting clays and birds on the wing.
All I’ve ever had to do is clean it. So I KNOW the quality Benelli puts out.
But Panzer Arms putting this shotty out for 1/4 the price, I really had to question the quality. Seriously question it.
After watching this video I am happy to say it’s no longer a question in my mind. I’ve read both good and bad reviews on the Panzer Arms M4 clone, the bad reviews coming mostly from people who don’t actually own one OR ended up buying another manufacturers clone and got gipped.
May I make a suggestion though; You guys should package and ship your product in a plastic blow molded case built just for the M4 clone. THAT would definitely be more of a sign that you actually have and care about the quality of your shotgun. Every Benelli I’ve ever purchased has come in it’s own plastic case made for it.
And 1 last concern I have, would you be so kind as to send me a Panzer Arms COAT like the one you are wearing in your video ? Size 2XL
Hey, it doesn’t hurt to ask 🤷♂️
I will be making my purchase next week, as this week I will be out of town on an end of season fishing trip. But you can message me for info on where to send the swag.
Thank you again.
Well done! I just bought one! Thank you for this video! 👍👍
Great beat down guys. I had to laugh at the end when you did the "do dah, do dah" bit, good to see even in another country Foghorn Leghorn is still funny !
That is absolutely hilarious.
Wow! I’m sold. Thank you.
Just ordered the disruptor gray,/ walnut stock version. I hope it isnt a jamomatic! As this video is great ,,this gun is almost certainly hand picked an every part taken apart an polished.So im hoping for the best.
Let me ask u a question, did your PA m4 turn out to be crap? I need 2 of them, just like the one you bought, but don't want to waste money if junk.
I just bought one a couple of weeks ago and she feels amazing to shoot it's an excellent gun for the price.
How’s it holding up?
@@guaporeturns9472 so far so good I have 500 rounds thru it now and still working good.
@@guaporeturns9472 I had my first issue with her on round 400 where it didn't completely load a round otherwise she has ran perfectly
@@brandondavis4306do you know what caused it?
Definitely on my short list as are a few other Panzer shotguns
thank you
I wanna see a 500rd torture test of the eg240. I just purchased on from classic firearms.
will do soon...
Agreed. Would enjoy seeing a similar test on the eg240.
@@panzerarmsusa cant wait for that one...that shotgun looks sweet
@@kippnovak9833 me too man I've been looking for an actual review on one since they came out but sadly no luck
@@toyfreddygayming6940 i only saw 1 review on u tube
Start of the video, gloves on because the air is cold.
Middle of video, gloves off because the barrel is warm!
End of video, gloves on because barrel is hot.
38:30 also this little song had me dying with laughter.
Stop being so modest.
Your benelli m4 clone is clearly the best lol.
Love it. Can’t wait to get one.
Pay 4.000 usd for benelli or pay 500 usd same quality M4. Think it.
@@erkanylmaz5564more like $2,000 usd… but still, it is quite a bit more expensive.
Just picked mine up today from ffl, gonna clean off shipping oul and lube it, then off too shoot, looking forward to it. I want to say that was a really good Idea from you to do this test and show the results. Enough said. Looks pretty damn good. Thanks for the proof you just showed in the quality and pride in your m4. I'm a big fan now.
How’s it holding up?
How’d it go
I've owned a Benenelli M1 Super 90 for the last 25 years or so. Runs flawlessly. It's got a quirky operating system, but it's no big deal once you train on it. Thinking about a second shotgun because you can't have too many shotguns, especially these days. I think I just found my second one here. No need to retrain on a different operating system.
You shoot a lot of bad guys with your shotgun "these days”?
🤡
@@guaporeturns9472 Did you hurt yourself sneering when you wrote that, short bus?
@@WardDorrity No , luckily I took precautions so I wouldn’t , but thanks for thinking of me , Killer👍🏻
@@guaporeturns9472 Send me a PO box so I can send you the butthurt cream you so desperately need.
I just bought your EG200. Now my favorite shotgun! Great video.
I have a panzer AR 12 I don't shoot a hole lot I shoot a couple hundred rounds on the weekend's. I've had it six months now and put about 3000 rounds through it I had one failure to feed the very first time I shot it and that was some 30 year old hand loaded ammo my father had in the shead so I know it was a ammo issue not the panzer because I never used that ammo again and never had a single problem with the panzer. I like the panzer so much I got my father a M4 for Christmas and I got me one as well you just can't beat the price.
Awesome video. Thank you Panzer Arms.
I bought one last year, zero problems and it shoots great. If you’re on the fence, just buy the fucking thing, you will not be disappointed.
I watched every shot! I thought throw that thing in the snow! At the end you did! Today, I picked up the Beretta 1301, but hold on, The Panzer M4 is coming in a few days! Yeah, I bought the Panzer M4 also, I'm not here to compare. I just wanted both.
That Panzer coat is 🔥🔥🔥
Few hundred rounds through mine, very pleased, hasnt has a single malfunction.
what kind of shells did you put through yours?
@@answersforlooking9430 A variety, from low velocity to high. I made a video of it all. Took it all apart, pre-fire inspection and test firing. Click my name and then in the "guns" section. And a follow up "short" video someone requested to see the condition of the bolt afterwards.. Its been great to me.
For rapid reloading you should lay out all the shells on the table, in a row, so you don't have to keep reaching inside that ammo box.
we want everyone to see the boxes too
This review sold me on this shotgun! I gotta have it!
This man doesn't even care about his hearing 😂😂 has ear pro around his neck and doesn't use them. I like this guy!
😂
What , lol, sure is.
Bought your panzer. Shotgun is superb and the price is awesome. Hey, where can I order one of those panzer jackets?
I'm going to buy one now honestly been looking at one on palmetto State armory for like a month
Mine will be in tomorrow. I can't wait to test it out
How was it
Great but I busted the stock and pistol grip. 😂
How did that happen? Through gun errors or yours?
@@ricanent.2670 definitely my own fault
What folks need now is the extension magazines to fit the Panzer M4?
Great video amigo!! Ice that shoulder and grab a beer. You have successfully sold me. Keep up the great work.
Im just over here patiently waiting for Panzer Arms to import a 14" breacher barrel so I can SBR my Panzer M4
Anyone notice the first 100 shots his hearing protection wasn’t in ??
welp thats a mistake im glad got corrected😷
very cool, might pick one up.
Is it a max 5 in the tube or is there a recommended mag extension that can be installed?
With ghost load abd mag extension it will be 9 rounds
@@panzerarmsusa wow so would the tube magazine protrude past the muzzle when installed or is it even
Nice🤙🤙🤙
Do you plan to do an Exg 500 torture test? The concept seems great, just wondering Bout reliability.
You will have a chance to watch it tomorrow
"Tiiiiiiime to do some skeeeeetchy shiiiiiiiieeet! Dooo- Da...doo-da!" 😂😂🤣💀
This clone is the best one and is one of the reasons you don’t see James Reeves test this specific clone because he can’t make it look like shit.
He tested it and it still malfunctioned
@@OlujaDoTokija i couldn't find that video. I know he's tested M4 clones, but have not seen the one using Panzer Arms. He's done SDS Imports and ErmoX versions. Also Adler Arms and MAC 1014.
@@adrianb4121 Looks like the video was either set to private or removed as I only get an error with the link from my browser history.
@@OlujaDoTokija there is a Classic Arms video reviewing Panzer as a company, and the company (Panzer) confirms in the comments that James never tested a Panzer at the time of the video. There was a bunch of comments wanting James to do a burndown since he does collabs with Classic.
Is it just me or is the recoil not that bad on that shotgun?
M4s got lesser recoil than other shotgus due to it's argo system
Would like to see this shoot something stronger than bird shot. will it fall apart with buck or slug? magnum?
You can fast forward the loading so we don't have to js.
Damn, I use to go with no gloves and never had a problem, but after I hit 56 something went wrong with my circulation and now my hands hurt and lock up in cold like that.
I really want to save to buy one.
Semi shotguns have a hard time cycling light target loads not heavy stuff.
He has ear protection but doesn't even use it lmao
Good on you guys. I'm impressed. 8)
This newer version has me interested again.
What's the muzzle device on video pic? Can you do a video on cleaning eg240?
Is this the same dude that ran a course with the EG240 and the flip up sights were on backwards the whole time? Yep, I think it is...
Somebody's been watching TFB TV !!!! : )
Güzel video olmuş, EG240 için de bu tarz bir video bekliyorum...
I just got my M4 and do the new ones not come with the three positions tube anymore. I bought the stock and grip and was extremely sad to find out mine didn’t have the tube needed.
Will the 5 position tube work? I saw that classic arms has one, but I can’t find any info on if the PA M4 collapsible stock (that is 3 positions) will work with a 3 position stock tube
@@JudgeDred225 yeah it would work. The 3 position and 5 position both work.
@@killerjack111Thank you very much for your response! I couldn’t find a 3 position stock tube anywhere, only a 5 position one, so this is extremely helpful.
Thats my next purchase
Oh, you just had to use the nickel coated version I want sooo bad, haha. Glove handprint included, I'll take her off your hands :D
Same here, but it costs same as polish AK with folder.... decisions.
@@stoegerstewie8351 I like your style. Zastava scratched my ak itch for the time being, so now I'm just lusting for my first semi auto shotgun
I literally just got the nickel coated one today, it does not disappoint
Not the same test . Where are the slugs , 00 buck
Can you replace extra barrel length for hunting?
Considering that you referenced the TFB channel test, did you ever contact them to find out why their Panzer M4 had so many problems and could not get to 250 rounds???
TFB channel never tested Panzer M4 model
That was an SDS TAC12 he destroyed.
@@panzerarmsusa What factory are these coming out of and how many of the other clones come out of the same factory?
Well you can tell it’s packaged well 😂
Well whats the part number of the extension!?!?!?!?
Can you do a test on the panzer eg 240 . Bought mines a few months ago and wont cycle low brass are they only meant for higher power shells?
These comments are hysterical.
Panzer guys defending their purchase and Benelli guys thinking because they spend $2000 that everything else is shit. Funny thing is I am willing to bet most folks commenting dont own either one, they are parroting what they have read.
The Benelli crew pointing out all the failures they see on YT. They dont tell you that TFBTV also had failures with Benelli in the burndown.
Iraqveteran888 loved the gun. Classic Firearms loved the gun.
Is the Panzer the Benelli? No but its not supposed to be. Its a clone - not a Benelli. Some people legit havent had any issues with their Panzer. Thats a good thing.
There are plenty of good reviews on YT using the Panzer. Are they all faking?
amerikadaki bazı kanalarda 500 adet 50gr denemesi yapılıyor genelde 250 fişekte kitleniyor sizce sebebi nedir???
Borat works for Panzer ? 🤔
Can you put No roll mark and markings other than the serial and caliber ?
I love my Panzer M4 and it didn't cost me $1,800
Anyone who owns this gun can you tell me if the recoil is significantly less than a pump? thinking about getting one. I bet he was sore after this burn down!
M4 has less recoil than other shotguns due to the argo system used in the gun
How much does the M4 cost
I didn’t even know there are Gingers in Turkey. Learn something new ever day!
Ok, where can i get panzer arms swag??
Can we have a M4 clone WITHOUT a pistol grip?! Some of us live in states that have laws that restrict what can own. Pistol grips on semiautomatic shotguns are a no go sadly.
Well, that's where the M2 comes in. You can find M2 clones aswell and they are excellent. Look at Stoeger!
Of course you could leave that state and move to America.
Hi. I just wanted to know if the Canadian Canuck operator was made by the same Turkish manufacturer as the Panzer? Thanks
No
You should down one for the eg200
Do you guys ship to Canada??
Impressive
Whats the price point on these? Seems to run good
About 450
I dont have the panzer, i have the MAC and it runs great.
Did anyone else think he was about to say, “22 fuckin’ degrees”? 😅
lol, Fahrenheit
I bought one a week ago and wanted to know about the chokes because I don't see markings about which choke is being used.
They should be marked with "circles " ........or stars, or bars......5= Cyl bore....4=improved cyl.....3= modified.....2=Improved modified.....1= full choke...............you should "google" info on choke restrictions & what shells to use & what Not to use.
@George Heidke Sr Thanks I figure, it has some markings inside, 5bars, 3bars, and one bar
How’s it holding up?
U ARE LUCKY THAT THE SHOTGUN WAS NOT LOADED WHEN YOU DID THAT
What serial number range will the telescopic stock fit sir?
Coooool ....NO Ear Protection??
Can you buy the Panzer M4 in Canada?
lol
I love the Turks.great products at great prices youre also super nice to street dogs and cats,Gods creatures .greetings from America
Sure.....
@@rox3725 sure...
The snow and cold must have helped in many regards here.
umm 🤔
Off course real torture test has standarts and rules such as minus degree test ( left the gun 24 hours in the frige then shot), drop test , left the gun in the salty water whether rust would happen on the metal surface or not, etc. Anyway those are for military torture test standarts so injustice to wait this from such defend shotguns probably not to use war contitions...
Does anyone know if they will run mini shells or have tried running mini shells?
Won't cycle mini shells, don't think any semi-auto will.
You really expect us to believe a “test” of a product done by its manufacturer?
I mean what could they have done to spoof the result??
@@CharlieeBoiYou really have to ask?
@@CharlieeBoiOff camera before test they could have swapped out many internal components with higher quality parts… they could have tweaked and tuned it extensively before the test.
@@guaporeturns9472 so you’re saying it’s possible for the shotgun to last, but only if you do the secret modifications that you didn’t see happen, or had any reason to believe they did other than manufactured suspicion?
@@guaporeturns9472 other people have done meltdowns of this, if you don’t believe them or want the shotty what are you doing here LMAO
Don’t buy from this company! Bought one of their shotguns and it had issues brought it to the gun smith and even they can’t get panzer to call back for warranty stuff so buyer beware
Can you pls send email to panzerarmsusa@gmail.com
@@panzerarmsusa He won't. This is a benelli m4 buyer who is salty because he spent 2k on his, lol.
I've heard from many people they can't get panzer customer service to get back to them. That's another red flag. Sorry but the benelli m4 costs more for many reasons. You get what you pay for. I'll stick to the buy once cry once method.
@@johnski4709 no it’s if I spend money on a gun I want it to work
@@panzerarmsusa will do
Cue TFBtv
500 rounds is just a break in, not a torture test😂
2:25 **facepalm** I'm sorry but really?? I know nitpicky but come on even if it's unloaded never look down the muzzle...
500 is nothing. Try the Benelli M4. The US military said they fired up to 5000 rounds. Still no misfire... Yours= junk ...
Not everyone can afford a $2000+ shotgun. At least we have manufacturers like this that can help people afford firearms and practice their second amendment rights
@@grizzly-s8763 Yes Sir, you guys should advise the Patriots to get cheap 12 gauge ammo belts to hold the rounds close come D-Day. Thanks for helping them...
@@grizzly-s8763 Man, mine was 2.3k three years ago. Now $3800...