I met Jack Dempsey in 1968 . As a family we had dinner at his restaurant on Broadway . It was a Saturday as I recall , and I was ten years old . It was a slow night in the place , not too many tables seated , and my parents noticed a man sitting at a small table off by himself doing what appeared to be some book keeping with a note pad and an adding machine . After a while , the man walked over to our table as we were enjoying our dinner - which was delicious - and asked if everything was to our liking . He needed no introduction , as my parents recognized who he was even before he strolled over to our table . That was the proprietor and ex heavyweight boxing champion , Jack Dempsey ! And as I remember it , he was a very gracious host , very nice , and a real gentleman . My parents were very impressed by Mr. Jack Dempsey .
As a young big enthusiast of boxing and its history I cannot help but be amazed by this comment. Just seeing someone born in the 19th century live is amazing, plus that person was Jack Dempsey! I would even spend 5 thousand dollars to have seen the scene you describe live. bye
@@SuperCrazyEstonian is alot more brother if we take into account how much an average person made in those days compare to now. Everytime they say $1 in 1970 was like $4 today that's cap if u take into account the money ppl makes now compare to the 70s $1 is like $15 now
The top boxers were generating huge amount of money back then,must have been the richest athletes on Earth,only in 1923 Dempsey got paid more than 750 000 $ for 2 bouts against Gibbons and Firpo,when the anual average salary was near 1000$... Plus having all these footages from more than 100 years ago is also amazing,we can witness all the World Title fights since Jack Johnson's era. P.S.Actually,the Corbett-Fitzisimmons fight from 1897,is also recorded,amazing.
I think 1 million dollar gate back then is about 14-15 million dollar gate now smh. Imagine how big of an event this was. Crazy! With 80,000 plus fans 😮
I think its even more today. you gotta factor in a lot of things. a million dollars back then was a stupid amount of money and a house was so cheap back then. I don't think the purchasing power is the same now. 15 million wouldn't get you what 1 million got dempsey back then
You could see the technical prowess of Jack Dempsey in this video. Head off of the centre line, rolling with carpentier's right hand as well as timing it to get a underhook and dirty box on the inside. He cut off the ring really well, keeping that pressure on him 👏🏾👏🏾
Georges Carpentier, qui accepte de Combattre dans une Catégorie Supérieure ! Quel Courage ! Chapeau L'Artiste ! 🇨🇵 Quel Foule ! Pour le Premier Match de l'Histoire Retransmis à la TV.
Watching at ×.75 speed and amazed how different the fight looks. Amazing defense on display by both men. Dempsey is great at moving with the punches, and Carpentier is still insanely fast, even in slow motion. Carpentier's ability to move and slide around the Ring reminds me of much later fighters.
This Fight kinda looked like David Benavidez vs Caleb Plant, Dempsey was like Benavidez being the bigger man constantly coming forward applying relentless pressure while Carpenter was more like Plant with his quick hands and slick movements and clinching on the inside…
Damon Runyon and others thought it wouldn't go a round, but admitted afterwards that Carpentier, as overmatched as he was, had good moments. I've often read that Carpentier landed an especially strong shot in the second, rocking Dempsey. As far as I can tell, he threw and landed several rights throughout, none more powerful in the second than any other. But it was a better fight than I recalled. Carpentier had a plan, but Jack overwhelmed him. Probably a good thing he didn't get the rematch he wanted. Dempsey had some hibernating to do.
Just watched Jack Johnson Unforgivable Blackness documentary on dvd And man what a champion he was in and out the ring Jack Johnson lost the World Heavyweight Championship in 1915 to Jess Willard and Jess Willard lost the world title to Jack Dempsey In 1919 Man how cool would it have been if Jack Johnson had remained champ for 3-4 more years and never loss to Jess Willard We could have gotten Jack Johnson vs Jack Dempsey
@@LegendsofBoxinginColor Did you hear about that newspaper that once was on ebay The newspaper was from Canada and it talks about the Rumored Dempsey and Johnson fight It says that jack johnson dropped dempsey at one point and then Dempsey came back in the fight and knocked johnson out But at that time Dempsey was in his prime at 27yrs old And johnson was in his early 40s And even in his 40s he still dropped Dempsey which is impressive Makes you think what if Johnson had fought Dempsey in his elite prime But yeah I guess in the 60s or 80s Not sure what year but someone asked Dempsey about that rumored fight and Dempsey stayed quiet for a second and then he said I always said I would beat johnson and smiled but never Admitted or denied the fight happening
@@Jesse_Saucedo dont think that hppend. Its just a rumour. Would be strange to make that fight behind closed doors just for some rich guys. Makes no sense who would put up the money. Too many ? You would need better evidence
Tex Richard told Dempsey before the fight Don’t knock him out in the first round, one round knockouts are bad for business. I think he took it easy on him at first
I recently did a rewatching of all of Dempseys filmed fights for the first time in many years and one thing I noticed is that he gets hit ALOT. And gets outboxed ALOT. He does have very good headmovment and rolls when he uses them but often he doesn't and he kinda blocks up right on the center line and gets drilled with straight punches. Against Willard it was actually easier for him because Willard was slower and much taller so it was easier to roll under punches and counter. A fighter like Dempsey is built to destroy big slow guys like that but he has trouble with shorter faster guys. Carpenter lands some good combos and so did Gibbons and Brennan. I'd say after recently watching his fights along with a bunch of the other great "squad brawler pressure fighters" like Marciano, Tyson ,Frazier etc that Dempsey gets hit more often than even Marciano and looks actually less skilled as an overall fighter that Marciano. Dempsey had a meteocre rise to title contention until basically his last year and a half before he fought Willard. He struggled badly with Journey men fighters and won only one of his four fights he had with tough Journey man Willie Mehan. After his 3 fight with Meehan he seemed to enter his prime and went on a viscous tear through the division with several brutal knock outs against big powerful top rated heavyweights. The complete destruction of the very big very powerful and very skilled Fred Fulton in 16 seconds was truly amazing yet he then lost to the short pudgy scrapped Willie Meehan again in 1918 less than 9 months before the Williard fight. It's really pretty impressive that he did make it to the top because if you asked anyone if he'd be champion in 1916 they would of laughed at you. It's hard not to compare Dempsey with Marciano but it's talked about so much it's just stuck in my head. I think Rocky far outshines Dempsey overall In basically every area except maybe speed. The imaginary fight of them that I always have in my head is always awesome and back and fourth action but Marciano always wins and it's always by knockout. The same happens when he fights Tyson and Frazier.
George Carpentier took 5 times more punches from Gene Tunney before being TKO by a low blow in the 15th round. I believe Jack Dempsey waa forced to go light against the French war hero because Dempsey was still considered a villain at this time. Dempswy failed to knock out Gibbons as Tunney had done only because the last 3 or 4 rounds Gibbons would not throw a punch but only hanging on to Denpseys left arm for dear life ....Gibbons should have been disqualified but to much money was purchased for that fight. Dempsey fists was has hard as cement .
Dempsey was barely 180 pounds the day of the fight as stated by his book, but was boasted as 187. Thus was considered heavyweights, however, since there’s no weight *limit*, fighters may also reach upwards of 240 pounds, which of course was not a problem for the great Dempsey :)
Not sure about Dempsey but there were quite many cases. Max Baer killed a guy Campbell, Primo Carnera killed a guy named Schaaf. Death of boxer is not rare, especially in the first half of 20 century.
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I met Jack Dempsey in 1968 . As a family we had dinner at his restaurant on Broadway . It was a Saturday as I recall , and I was ten years old . It was a slow night in the place , not too many tables seated , and my parents noticed a man sitting at a small table off by himself doing what appeared to be some book keeping with a note pad and an adding machine . After a while , the man walked over to our table as we were enjoying our dinner - which was delicious - and asked if everything was to our liking . He needed no introduction , as my parents recognized who he was even before he strolled over to our table . That was the proprietor and ex heavyweight boxing champion , Jack Dempsey ! And as I remember it , he was a very gracious host , very nice , and a real gentleman . My parents were very impressed by Mr. Jack Dempsey .
As a young big enthusiast of boxing and its history I cannot help but be amazed by this comment. Just seeing someone born in the 19th century live is amazing, plus that person was Jack Dempsey! I would even spend 5 thousand dollars to have seen the scene you describe live. bye
You have a story that should be known by thousands of people. Its amazing that you met one of the best boxers that ever lived.
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A million dollar gate 102 yrs ago is an insane amount of money
About 17 million today. Which even by today´s standards is amazing.
However, generating 1 million in 1921 must have been a hell of a thing.
No tv and social media....Behemoth achievement
@@Nimvarthat makes it easier not harder
Announcer said 1,789,238. That's like 29 million. Wonder what the fighters made
@@SuperCrazyEstonian is alot more brother if we take into account how much an average person made in those days compare to now. Everytime they say $1 in 1970 was like $4 today that's cap if u take into account the money ppl makes now compare to the 70s $1 is like $15 now
The top boxers were generating huge amount of money back then,must have been the richest athletes on Earth,only in 1923 Dempsey got paid more than 750 000 $ for 2 bouts against Gibbons and Firpo,when the anual average salary was near 1000$...
Plus having all these footages from more than 100 years ago is also amazing,we can witness all the World Title fights since Jack Johnson's era.
P.S.Actually,the Corbett-Fitzisimmons fight from 1897,is also recorded,amazing.
Carpentier was a very game fighter. Respect.
i was crazy look at his nose before he got koed. bleed like hell
What a great fight. Two legends! 🥊
I think 1 million dollar gate back then is about 14-15 million dollar gate now smh. Imagine how big of an event this was. Crazy! With 80,000 plus fans 😮
90 000 he said
Imagine the taxes they would have had to pay on that though…
@@Fairytachi13 91,000 accurately
I think its even more today. you gotta factor in a lot of things. a million dollars back then was a stupid amount of money and a house was so cheap back then. I don't think the purchasing power is the same now. 15 million wouldn't get you what 1 million got dempsey back then
Just saw an “arcade” machine where you put 25 cents in and can watch an old film reel of this knockout. It’s at the Las Vegas Pinball Hall Of Fame
Madness I just watched a fight that happened 100 years ago
You could see the technical prowess of Jack Dempsey in this video. Head off of the centre line, rolling with carpentier's right hand as well as timing it to get a underhook and dirty box on the inside. He cut off the ring really well, keeping that pressure on him 👏🏾👏🏾
it's great to watch this fight from over 100 years ago!
Huge weight difference.
We wouldn't allow that kind of fight today.
But despite the disadvantage, Carpentier did well against Dempsey.
16 pounds doesn’t seem like that huge of a difference. Didn’t Fury outweigh Usyk by over 40 pounds?
@davidbrandel4128 Yeah, at 'heavyweight' 16 lbs isn't much at all. Also consider that Willard outweighed Dempsey by 58 lbs when Dempsey won the title.
Man I remember this fight like it was yesterday. I was 16 years old! Ah the good ol days!
Georges Carpentier, qui accepte de Combattre dans une Catégorie Supérieure !
Quel Courage !
Chapeau L'Artiste ! 🇨🇵
Quel Foule ! Pour le Premier Match de l'Histoire Retransmis à la TV.
Every tv narrator at that time sounded the same
😂facts
Watching at ×.75 speed and amazed how different the fight looks. Amazing defense on display by both men. Dempsey is great at moving with the punches, and Carpentier is still insanely fast, even in slow motion. Carpentier's ability to move and slide around the Ring reminds me of much later fighters.
awesome
This Fight kinda looked like David Benavidez vs Caleb Plant, Dempsey was like Benavidez being the bigger man constantly coming forward applying relentless pressure while Carpenter was more like Plant with his quick hands and slick movements and clinching on the inside…
Interesting take, I agree !!
A big weight step up for Carpenteir but a very good performance against Dempsey.
A million i 1921, wow what a time to be alive
Damon Runyon and others thought it wouldn't go a round, but admitted afterwards that Carpentier, as overmatched as he was, had good moments. I've often read that Carpentier landed an especially strong shot in the second, rocking Dempsey. As far as I can tell, he threw and landed several rights throughout, none more powerful in the second than any other. But it was a better fight than I recalled. Carpentier had a plan, but Jack overwhelmed him. Probably a good thing he didn't get the rematch he wanted. Dempsey had some hibernating to do.
Dempsey doing some proto philly shell/shoulder roll stuft in this one
Just watched
Jack Johnson Unforgivable Blackness documentary on dvd
And man what a champion he was in and out the ring
Jack Johnson lost the World Heavyweight Championship in 1915 to
Jess Willard and Jess Willard lost the world title to Jack Dempsey In 1919
Man how cool would it have been if Jack Johnson had remained champ for 3-4 more years and never loss to Jess Willard
We could have gotten Jack Johnson vs Jack Dempsey
There are rumourse they fought in secrete. But it never happend
Ahah no, Johnson denied fights with mcvea, Langford and many other black fighters because he said “people don’t want to watch two black men fight.”
@@LegendsofBoxinginColor
Did you hear about that newspaper that once was on ebay
The newspaper was from Canada and it talks about the
Rumored Dempsey and Johnson fight
It says that jack johnson dropped dempsey at one point and then
Dempsey came back in the fight and knocked johnson out
But at that time Dempsey was in his prime at 27yrs old
And johnson was in his early 40s
And even in his 40s he still dropped Dempsey which is impressive
Makes you think what if Johnson had fought Dempsey in his elite prime
But yeah I guess in the 60s or 80s
Not sure what year but someone asked Dempsey about that rumored fight and Dempsey stayed quiet for a second and then he said
I always said I would beat johnson and smiled but never
Admitted or denied the fight happening
@@Jesse_Saucedo dont think that hppend. Its just a rumour. Would be strange to make that fight behind closed doors just for some rich guys. Makes no sense who would put up the money. Too many ? You would need better evidence
You would have gotten an old guy that was past it vs a young man in prime
For example this gate revenue is similar to Fury Vs Wilder 2 , with inflation accounted for.
Lotta hugging going on.
New York in its prime, regardless of the financial stuff, it must have been great. The city must have been great. Not the s*** that's there now.
Tex Richard told Dempsey before the fight Don’t knock him out in the first round, one round knockouts are bad for business. I think he took it easy on him at first
I recently did a rewatching of all of Dempseys filmed fights for the first time in many years and one thing I noticed is that he gets hit ALOT. And gets outboxed ALOT.
He does have very good headmovment and rolls when he uses them but often he doesn't and he kinda blocks up right on the center line and gets drilled with straight punches. Against Willard it was actually easier for him because Willard was slower and much taller so it was easier to roll under punches and counter. A fighter like Dempsey is built to destroy big slow guys like that but he has trouble with shorter faster guys.
Carpenter lands some good combos and so did Gibbons and Brennan.
I'd say after recently watching his fights along with a bunch of the other great "squad brawler pressure fighters" like Marciano, Tyson ,Frazier etc that Dempsey gets hit more often than even Marciano and looks actually less skilled as an overall fighter that Marciano.
Dempsey had a meteocre rise to title contention until basically his last year and a half before he fought Willard. He struggled badly with Journey men fighters and won only one of his four fights he had with tough Journey man Willie Mehan. After his 3 fight with Meehan he seemed to enter his prime and went on a viscous tear through the division with several brutal knock outs against big powerful top rated heavyweights. The complete destruction of the very big very powerful and very skilled Fred Fulton in 16 seconds was truly amazing yet he then lost to the short pudgy scrapped Willie Meehan again in 1918 less than 9 months before the Williard fight.
It's really pretty impressive that he did make it to the top because if you asked anyone if he'd be champion in 1916 they would of laughed at you.
It's hard not to compare Dempsey with Marciano but it's talked about so much it's just stuck in my head. I think Rocky far outshines Dempsey overall In basically every area except maybe speed.
The imaginary fight of them that I always have in my head is always awesome and back and fourth action but Marciano always wins and it's always by knockout. The same happens when he fights Tyson and Frazier.
Does the narrator have mid atlantic accebt
Remarkably good condition film.amazing how theres no film of Greb.
Everyone in this video is dead is it bad that’s what come to my mind
Yes. But my grandfather is alive and 110 years old now
A positive thinker.
Legend has it Carpentier hit Jack on the jaw - and broke his hand. Georgie was fkd after that.
😂 lol " legend has it" made me laugh
172 lbs for a heavyweight contender is crazy
Joe biden watched this figth live
Brilliant 😂
So did Donald Trump
Rofl
Boardwalk Empire brought me here
George Carpentier took 5 times more punches from Gene Tunney before being TKO by a low blow in the 15th round.
I believe Jack Dempsey waa forced to go light against the French war hero because Dempsey was still considered a villain at this time.
Dempswy failed to knock out Gibbons as Tunney had done only because the last 3 or 4 rounds Gibbons would not throw a punch but only hanging on to Denpseys left arm for dear life ....Gibbons should have been disqualified but to much money was purchased for that fight.
Dempsey fists was has hard as cement .
this moving is incomplète ! at one time all people stand up and CARPENTIER done a punition to DEMPSEY . Here this moment is absent !
I deleted it, Phil.
ToughShit. Deal with it.
@@TheBatugan77 thank for your answer. Do you know where to see the complete ?
Bat Masterson, the famous "lawman" and journalist, saw that match.
Although, he lost the fight, I am very impressed with Carpentier.
He didn't just lose
He got stiffed. Starched. Cashiered.
Viva la France!
Here's a two-piece for you.
HBO Boardwalk Empire brought me here
Me too
SAME!!
im the third one in this path..
Not me.
I do very much prefer the French pronunciation, thanks for asking sir.
About 17.15million today
Best fighter to EVER step in the ring
Seguramente todos los que están en el evento ya estan muerto 😢
These guys are heavyweights????
Dempsey was barely 180 pounds the day of the fight as stated by his book, but was boasted as 187. Thus was considered heavyweights, however, since there’s no weight *limit*, fighters may also reach upwards of 240 pounds, which of course was not a problem for the great Dempsey :)
Huge crowd
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Didn't Dempsey kill someone in a boxing match? Or the other guy?
No neither did
That was Emile Griffith in the 1960s, he beat Benny Paret to death
Not sure about Dempsey but there were quite many cases. Max Baer killed a guy Campbell, Primo Carnera killed a guy named Schaaf. Death of boxer is not rare, especially in the first half of 20 century.
Georges Carpentier etait un enfant
100 years ago boxing didn't look like boxing.
Какой неинтересный бой еле двигаются
Heavy weight...
I doubt Carpentier weighed over 165. Hearns or Hagler would have beaten him.
Nothing wrong with a black Ref obviously. Just surprised they had one back in 1921.
neither man is Heavyweight..
Fixed.
No technique or defense just brawling
Boxing sucked even more back them.
The first GAY fight? They spent m,ore time HUGGING each other than fighting!