Muscle Car Of The Week Video #81: 1967 Shelby Cobra
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Muscle Car Of The Week Video #81: 1967 Shelby Cobra
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www.musclecaroftheweek.com - This 1967 Shelby Cobra is an all-original car, but if it looks a little less aggressive than the side-piped, roll-barred, hood-scooped 427 Cobras you are used to seeing, it's because this is a Street Car version. These were a little less racy than the 427 Competition or Semi Competition cars, but still a legendary performer on the street or track. Sometimes called the "Gentleman's Cobra", the street cars often were powered by the Ford 428 big block V8 over the high-strung 427 side-oiler. Watch the episode to learn the story on this highly-original Shelby!
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As a kid i grew up riding around in a 427 cobra white black interior side pipe every time we went out i would be told watch out don't burn your legs on the side pipe and every time i would burn my leg. Great times riding in that car. I love it
Those old Cobras are STILL quick.
Just a work of Art
Absolutely stunning....shape, proportion, stance, .....WOW! Never appreciated the Cobra form until seeing this. Love the BRG color. Totally awesome. Thx.
As a Shelby dealer, I had to have a fully functional Cobra for demonstration rides, plus all the Car Shows.
It was a CSX 4000 427 S/C
Shelby Aluminum 427 based side oiler, with side pipes.
Shelby still makes Cobras.
It's always nice to see both small and large block Cobras without side pipes, roll bars, hood scoops, body stripes and racing numbers. Just the clean uncluttered design is all you really need.
Agreed!
It may be all you need but not all you want.
Mr. Cobra... RUclips video: Meet Mr Cobra: The King of Shelby Cobras - XCAR
The most in your face, powerful car ever built....the quintessential muscle car!
Mr. Cobra... RUclips video: Meet Mr Cobra: The King of Shelby Cobras - XCAR
I knew a guy in my town that bought this exact same car brand new in 1967 from a West Hartford Ford/Cobra dealer. I have some nice color shots of it taken around 1980 or so. He had some issues and sold it. I was at a car show in the former Hartford Civic Center some years later, and saw a green 1967 Cobra 427 street car just like this one. It was being shown by E.R.A of New Britain, Connecticut, a fine Cobra and GT40 replica manufacturer. In conversation with the owner, it turns out this was that Cobra! Small world indeed!
I know it’s been a couple years since this comment, but I think this was my Great Uncles car. His name was George Petri, unfortunately he passed away a few years ago. He gave me a picture he took when he owned it, CSX 3245. Do you happen to know if the car in this video is the car my great uncle owned?
There are things in life where British and Americans fit just so rightly side by side that have an appeal so sort after which make them a forever iconic
The Awesome One! The Bruiser of Bruiser and Bad Boy of Bad Boys!😁👍🛠️🔧
Love this car so stock looking w/out the side pipes etc
This is a great show.
Well done
Kevin I thought it was a great presentation as always....I thought the wheel arches looked empty, interesting about the Sunburst Alloys....first time I heard about the 427/428 in Cobra's....For the record I have thought all the cars you have featured on Muscle Car of the Week have been appropriate....I like your sincere presentation and unbiased attitude towards Manufacturers. Thanks....
Juju Partyboy Thank you for the kind words! You seem to get our mission, it's all about the cars.
That Big Block sounds a little under the weather! Great vid!
I know right?
Sounds like a frigand Volkswagen!
Mr. Cobra... RUclips video: Meet Mr Cobra: The King of Shelby Cobras - XCAR
428 Fords are MILD compared to a 427 side oiler ... Big Difference Thats why it sounds more mild , because it IS : )
@@Wilett614 All depends on how you build it.
Back in 1979 my dad bought a used car business there was a 289 cobra in bare aluminum stored in the shop. The owner of the car had no place store it, he offered to sell it to my dad for $3000 but my dad didn't want it. If we only knew!!
Thank you for sharing this rare Cobra.
always a pleasure
Beautifully understated.
Love the ashtray.
Wow! Great video. I never knew a 428cid was put into a Cobra. Learn something old - errr - new!
It wasn't done intentionally, as an option. Shelby couldn't get enough 427's to keep up with production so they stuffed the pedestrian 428 motors in there. It was a bit underhanded and dishonest, what Shelby did; not informing their customers that they were paying full price for a 340 hp 428 and not getting a 475 hp 427. I believe that only the customers who discovered this, and complained got their proper 427 installed. Shameful, really.
Considering how overpowered they were with only the 'pedestrian' 428 I doubt that many owners cried too much.
Sweet Ride!
Good job on the video, got to see this one as well, very interesting car, and that someone kept it or at least restored it back to the Standard Street version, most people would have added side pipes, scoop, and the other wheels, so pretty rare to find one like this.
Sweet ride .
I would give damn near anything to own this car, it's absolutely gorgeous.....
The 3 second 0-60 was a real thing. If I remember correctly....Detroit recieved SEVERAL complaints about the 428 being used instead of the 427. Mr. Ford made a phone call to Shelby and Shelby was ordered to replace the 428 for anybody who complained. I'm not sure about the cobra but the GT 500 buyers were the bulk of the complaints.
Ol Shell had to replace NUMEROUS engines on his own dime. Mr. FORD said if he was selling it as a 427, it better be a 427.
GT500's were always advertised as 428....wat's to complain about?
Carroll Shelby was forced By Ford to remove the 428’s and put in the 427’s because of customer complaints that they thought they were getting the 427. Which makes this car even more interesting and valuable. It has to be rare.
It is well documented that only the customers who a) discovered they got the 428 and b) complained to Shelby, got their 340 hp 428 replaced with the 475 hp 427. I have no proof of this, but I have always believed that the 428's weren't even Police Interceptors, they were plain jane 315 hp motors installed in Thunderbirds etc. back in the day. Shameful behavior by Shelby, really.
There’s so many replicas of this car just shows how highly desired this car is, an all original is beyond $500K
Not sure that would be a muscle car, but if it is, it would be muscle car of the Century! Especially a 427. 428 is still enough to take the title.
It definitely has that proper English look. The color makes it. One of my favorite Cobras.
I knew a guy in Conn. that bought one exactly like this, I believe from Williams Ford in West Hartford. Last time I saw it was at a car show in Hartford and found out after talking with a guy from E.R.A. in New Britain that this car is one and the same.
classic cool
Don't mind at all even though it is technically a sports car, I'm sure every muscle car Enthusiast when hold it in extremely high regards!
Was going to say something along the lines of what you have said.
My first new car was a 67 289 Mustang. Couldn't afford my dream car the 1967 Cobra. If I could afford one it would be a 289 Cobra
Does this car have more " muscle " than an M.G.A. or M.G.B.?
Mr. Cobra... RUclips video: Meet Mr Cobra: The King of Shelby Cobras - XCAR
Sounds sick as a dog. Please get the owner of it to re-attach at least 3 of the plug leads !!
arkhsm ford worry about your cobra, oh that’s right
Mr. Cobra... RUclips video: Meet Mr Cobra: The King of Shelby Cobras - XCAR
@@guysmalley Whether or not somebody owns a Cobra or not doesn't matter, this car does sound like crap.
Ford sold Shelby side oilers for about $700, they sold him 428's for $300. All the competition cars got side oilers, but very few street versions got them. Shelby never told customers about the substitute motors.
The 428 was substituted for the 427 without telling the purchaser, the 427 was expensive and in short supply, so unless you demanded the 427 you often got a 428.
That car's over a million dollars. Rightly so.
Mr. Cobra... RUclips video: Meet Mr Cobra: The King of Shelby Cobras - XCAR
I loved nice car
As usual kevin perfect review...why some time they call them AC cobra?
ali pontiac ac was the British company that made the car in the 50s.
This guy is correct that a Cobra was not considered a classic muscle car. The reason Cobras and Vettes were not categorized as muscle cars is primarily because a muscle car was considered a midsized family type car (with a back seat) with a powerful motor.
Sounds like a giant 2 stroke.
Mr. Cobra... RUclips video: Meet Mr Cobra: The King of Shelby Cobras - XCAR
The power ratings like thes have always confused me. I was taught that HP is the torque plus the inertia of the engine. In this and other cases the torque is much greater that the HP. How is this so as I could really use some help here? Thanks
Shelby did not bother to tell anyone that he had gone to the cheaper and lower-performing 428 engine - as can be seen from the 427 plate on the rocker cover of this car! Ford were about to discontinue the 427 in any case, but it was a bit of a sharp move to not tell buyers about it, I would say!
Also the move to Sunburst wheels was only because of the higher costs of the original Halibrand wheels.
Cool in the olden age....
wonder why they badged the motor and fenders with the wrong engine displacement ,any ideas why?seems odd,like the chittychitty bang bang exhaust note too.thanks guys,love the show.
I am surprised no one answered. I will try, but my answers are theories, not necessarily facts; first of all, Shelby was known as someone who told 'tall tales'. Combine tall tales and car sales, and that would be one reason. Another is that '427' could be said to be a model name as opposed to the engine size. The simplest answer is that being such a small company, there was no fiscal reason to make a bunch of '427' AND '428' fender badges.
Does this car need a tune up? Sounds pretty weak when given the Throttle : (
did this just get auctioned off? velocity just posted a pic of it on there facebook page
5H4V3D89 It was a similar green Cobra, but not the same car.
it would be neat to build a replica like this. would be different from all the other replicas.
I built my Cobra replica as a road car the same as this one. Mine was Guardsman Blue (original Cobra colour), no speed-striped, no side pipes.
Used it daily for 10 years 1992 - 2002 and sold it to fund other purchases.
Wonderful car. How much this sport car?
That green is perfect. Anyone know the shade?
I would guess British racing green
Since when is a 428cid engine putting out 460ft/lbs of torque in a light weight car not a muscle car? :-) well except for maybe it wasn't available to John Q. Public in big numbers; the Corvette is in the same category...BUT ITS STILL MUSCLE.
Thanks for the info on the 4 models, 427/428 engine and those star burst wheels.
Informative as always Kevin..that's why I subscribe to the RUclips channel.
-Dave
The most widely accepted definition of a muscle car is a mid size car with the biggest engine available from the make shoved in and arguably with the stipulation that it is marketed to younger buyers.It's significant because for the longest time,for the most part manufacturers put the smallest engines in the smallest cars,the biggest engines in the biggest cars and the medium engines in the mid size cars.
I appreciate your explanation of the differences between the 427 side-oiler and the 428. How about the 429? Did it share a block with the 427 and 428?
No they call it the "semi-hemi" with very large heads, they had to modify the mustang towers to even fit the monster in the bay leaving no room for ac compressor.
bailey9r, thanks.
@@bailey9r The Boss '9 is the semi-hemi with the big heads (as are the actual Mopar hemi's) and all the 429's are 385 series engines whereas the 427-428 are FE engine family. Completely different engines.
Let's talk some. More about it over a beer
This car could spend some time at the mechanic's garage getting the engine tuned.
Awesome car, but wait, how is it not a "muscle car"? What am I missing?
The original definition of a muscle car is an intermediate with a big block.
Sorry, this version WAS the 'typical' 427 Cobra. Only 30-some SC/Race versions were made, the vast majority of Cobras were street versions with 428s rather than 427s.
Would of been cool if Shelby built a few with the boss 429 engine in it..
Cobra was out of production when the Boss 429 was released - 69, 70.
I wish Shelby had made a SOHC 427 Cobra. It was an awesome engine and would have been correct for the time period.
The "Cammer" engine you refer to was even larger dimensionally and heavier than the FE side oiler 427. As awesome as it was, it still needed development work before it worked reliably. For sports car road racing the 289 was a much more balanced and much better handling car than the extremely nose heavy 427. The FE 427 had enough trouble getting that power to the ground and the SOHC would have just added to that problem. That's why you saw very few 427s raced compared to a huge number of 289 S/Cs.
Ronnie Costanza - Say what?
Yea that thing was running like serious shit
My dude, the VAST majority of both 289 and 427 Cobras were 'street cars'.
It sounds like a goddam Volkswagen Beetle.
It sounds like it's a 5 cylinder
no roll bar!!!
I love this show, but i gotta say this 428 sounds messed up like its missing on 2 cylinders.
Gentlleman's Cobra? Where the hell did that come from. Is that like saying for a 357 magnum revolver is a gentleman's gun?
Wow! Read this Hemmings article from May 2012 and look at the Cobra prices only 8 years ago! www.hemmings.com/magazine/hmn/2012/05/1962-1967-Shelby-Cobra/3711811.html
More tire needed ...
Sounds terrible.....
Authentic looks best many of the kit copies look like a tarts handbag
A bit of misinformation in this video: The 428's were installed, not as an option, but due to a lack of availability of the 427 engines. This is well documented, that Ford couldn't (or wouldn't) keep up with the demand that Shelby had for the 427 side-oilers. So it was actually a bit underhanded and dishonest, what Shelby did, stuffing the pedestrian 428 (from the Thunderbird etc.) into these cars and badging them and selling them as 427's. Many customers were outraged when they found this out and demanded that Shelby install the 427, free of charge, as a warranty claim. Unknown how many got the proper 427 installed vs. how many kept the 428 that they came with.
Yep. That was a dirty deal to lay on people. The thing is, the 428 looked different than the 427. Seems most people would have caught that right away.
@@stretch54 I have one that looked the same as the one here. Same color etc. The 428 actually looks the same from above except for the carburetor. In fact the 428 actually had low rise 427 heads and used a 427 AA mechanical cam. I added side pipes, hood scoop, Holley 780 carb and rain race tires and ran 12.4 in the quarter. Shelby's own 427 Cobra was tested in a magazine and ran low 13 in the quarter. More than anything it depended on tires/traction. His car had race tires so I don't know why it didn't do better. I actually asked Shelby why his car was so slow. He got irritated at the question but said it was because it was street driven. At the time I used mine as my every day car and was averaging around 12,000 miles per year. So I would guess that whoever ran thirteens was just being careful. I later replaced the 428 with a medium riser side oil 427. It doesn't feel any quicker, sounds about the same but gets worse fuel economy. I purchased the car in 1968 with 9,000 miles. It now has a little over 80,000 miles with about 50,000 of the miles put on the car in the first 4 years I owned it.
his descriptive difference between the 427 and 428 was poor...higher compression, changed rods, cam differences along with heads high rise, medium rise and low rise heads. 427 was a cross bolt 4 bolt main. and I'm sure there was much more..
He did not say it was the only difference.
The description was not poor---you're just an OCD ass
shoulda told about this cars british origins
The 427/428 Cobras shared little with the original 260/289 Cobras except the general body shape. The 427 cars were not AC Bristol bodies but bodies that had been redesigned to accommodate the huge wheels and tires, the massive engines and even the suspensions are different, as was the tubular frame. So ORIGINS would be an accurate term, but the 427 was a different critter altogether. I'm one of the few who PREFERRED the original slab sided body style, and also the 289 engine. Of course when one thinks of Cobras they envision the huge body flares and most likely the roll bar and giant tires. To me that looks almost cartoonish. Granted, it had to be with that monster V-8, but the little one was no slouch, either on the strip or the track. In either configuration the Cobra is if not THE most recognizable car on earth in the top three. The Beetle may give it a run for its money. In recognizability, not on the strip/track.
No Kev...
So if you wanted performance and drive ability you turn the PI into a CJ and get 425 hp with a car you can drive every day . If you think a 390 GT had the same HP as a 428 CJ and less than the PI like Ford said the CJ had about 90 and 65 HP respectively more HP.
The 289 was a much better combination
Wasn't the early cobras powered by a solid lifter 260 to start with.
The back ground " music " distracts from an otherwise excellent documentary .
what do you know! an ac bristol european sports car that someone bought and put a ford engine in it. golllie.
Love the car and narration. Hate the background music. Hate it.
Sounds bad, like not good.
Not a muscle car?🤔
Neat car considering it's history, but golly, what is that terrible sound???!!! Sounds like a car that's had the wires crossed.
engine sounded like
crap..couple plugs fouled,
Timothy Wyant ......high lift and duration cam.....smooths right out off idle....mine does......
Sounded like a Briggs and Stratton go cart
I thought the same thing. Unless there is some valves stuck from sitting in storage for so long.never good to sit.
To everyone complaining yall are a bunch of parrots everyone s complaint is the same come up with something else to complain about besides what the last hundred people complained about
428 CJ, Still Need, Hood Scoop & Roll Bar For Driver !!! Without Sidepipes Takes Part Of Cobra Outta Cobra !!! Mix & Match ###s From Factory, Still Make It Worth $$$, Nice Car...Stay Strong....Peace
They could gave it side pipes, corvette had them
Beautiful car, but sorry I can't get past the f'ing music.
I built the 427 Cobras All he said is bullshit nothing right as the books are wrong also. Its a A C Bristol with a Ford engine, Shelby was a great promoter. There were 70 cars with a 428 because Ford would not give Shelby any more 427s.
that car sounds terrible,.... like its hitting on 4 cyl.
427 engine less than 1000kg what is wrong with you.
far too British looking for me, even the British racing green doesn't help.