Hehehe, your prediction is incomplete. Cars will be cheaper. If you buy EVs. Battery prices are dropping hard. More than 50% since last year.. and expect another 50% by 2026. So EVs are getting cheaper to manufacture. If you are buying an ICE or hybrid..yeah, they'll keep on getting expensive
Bankruptcy for most manufacturing 25% import tariffs, no EV taxes credit. Bankruptcy bankruptcy bankruptcy discounts 10k off a ford truck 🛻 and ford adds more hybrids V8 in 2025 f-150 to f-350!!! 70% of all the parts come from American 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽 lol 😂 and a trade war would increase prices cause looses. Europe has a lot of electric ⚡️ vehicles under 20k and and China 🇨🇳 has a lot of EV under 10k lol 😂 cheap EV will be normal the new sodium 🧂 batteries cost 1,500 for a car and 4,000 dollars a truck battery 🔋 lol 😂 sodium batteries are coming to China next year and they are 60% less expensive than LFP and LFP are 30% less expensive the rare earth metal NMC batteries.
My prediction is that Trump's tariffs are negotiating tactics. While there maybe some tarriffs levied in certain places, primarily they are leverage to get what he wants.
Until the charging network & charging time is equivalent to filling up a gas tank, EVs will still face resistance. To make them feasible owners need the charging equipment installed at home. Then there's still the ever-present threat of the battery catching on fire and burning your house down. The cold weather range drop & cold weather charging problem needs to be solved. And what are apartment dwellers supposed to do for home charging?
Real original. You bring up solved issues like it was 2018 still. 😂. Sure apartments need charging infrastructure but charging at home is 99% for most folks.
Roman acts like we didn’t just watch him have a complete meltdown and panic after picking up the VW Buzz and how difficult, annoying, and tedious it is to drive an EV anywhere if you’re using public charging instead of your house. Yet everytime Andre picks up a new gas truck from wherever (such as their Tundra from Texas), he drives it straight back no problem. TFL has a voice, please use it for good. Which would be taking advantage of the Stallantis disaster, and pushing for them to return to the Hemi V8 and normal vehicles in general. Not a single environmentalist EVER bought a Charger/Challenger. That’s a bro car for people who just wanna have fun and be loud. Stop trying to force people to change. As you always say Roman, give people choices. Ford’s done it with the lightning, Mercedes with their IQ cars, etc, taking a step back from their EV mistakes. If you keep saying how much you love EVs, you’re gonna ruin it for the rest of us that DON’T want one
Calm down dude. The market will speak. The legacy auto bros will go out of business and either get bought out or parted out while Tesla will steamroll them all. They aren't making good EVs because either they are for compliance or just aren't taking it serious. Gas engines are so 1900. You'd know that if you drove a Tesla 😂
I think Andre is right, the Jeep Gladiator is dead after 2025. However, I think it will be reborn as a Ram branded midsizer. The PHEV version of it will fit in well with the EREV and Ramcharger fullsizers. It probably gets IFS and breaks its direct connection to the Wrangler.
The one PHEV that SHOULD be brought over: The Ranger PHEV that you covered earlier Also, Chrysler had a straight six hemi in the Australian market, so that would not be unprecedented. Something else to consider: Most of our oil refineries were built decades ago and are set up to process heavy crude. Most of what we produce is light crude, which we export. It would take about a year or so, and hundreds of millions of dollars, to swap the refineries over. Most of the heavy crude they DO process comes from Canada(50%) and Mexico(10%) so tariffs would cause a fuel price shock
Bold prediction: 2 years ago I made a prediction. Gas being 2.25 a gallon or less. By 2030 If big oil wants to keep selling to consumers, they will make sure ICE engines stay around due to cheap running cost. Slowing down the EV market. But first it'll spike. Keep your v8s😅
Bold prediction for 2025 is that Carlos Ghosn and Carlos Tavares team up to lead Nissan through this troubling time to make Nissan a top 3 global automotive company.
Musk has actually championed the complete elimination of the EV rebate, as he thinks the other EVs will disappear an unprofitable without them while Musk can eat the lost profit but make up for it sales as all the buyers of new EVs have to get Teslas.
Manufacturers can’t even make a good starting battery.😂 I rented a Wrangler hybrid in Colorado last Christmas & the thing never charged because it was…..cold. It drank MORE GAS in charge mode & could only run on battery for a few minutes. 😮I’ll take my Rub Gladiator in Gator, any day. My daily driver, 2008 Avalanche LTZ, 430,000 miles & going. $37k new & free since 2011. 😂
No one that wants a V8 will be happy with a V6 just because it gets called a Hemi, and naming it Hemi will have no impact versus any other name with the same improved performance. The Hemi is cool because it is a V8, not because it has hemispherical heads.
I wish you all a merry Christmas! Everyone who presented in this video is a class act and I thank you all for your contributions. Be well into the new year. My bold prediction: Tesla will spin off everything not related to cars, along with Musk, and will partner with GM. Honda will work with Nissan, but not necessarily own it. Infiniti will be the dealer home for Honda and Sony’s Aféela cars. Beyond 2025, not only will engine research and development be shared between manufacturers, so will EV platforms, or the Skateboard. Further hardware and software different will differentiate the different brands and product lines. The technology underpinning these differences will breathe new le into automotive suppliers in building these new technologies and shared business ventures between manufacturers looking to vertically integrate. Subaru and Mazda will get even closer and share dealerships. Buck will fold as Chinese buyers have abandoned it.
My prediction: EVs get abandoned, model lineups get consolidated to only the most profitable vehicles, the trade wars cause more parts shortages and lower availability\higher prices, and the markets get saturated with EVs (both new and used) that cannot sell once the EV rebates are ended but they will refuse to lower the price and sit on them for a year rather then take a loss on the sale. The first whispers of the return to large N\A ICE and Diesel Engines with less unreliable components as discussions regarding rolling back emissions regulations take place, but it will take a couple years to see an actual impact on manufacturer plans
I did not know that Honda Prologues were outselling Chevy Blazer EVs. I do prefer the styling on the Prologue. I like the Blazer EV styling, too, way better than the MachE, but the Blazer EV is a little over-the-top. I prefer the more subtle styling of the Prologue.
@@dirtandhappiness2023 chargers aren't cheap and you aren't going to see apartment complexes putting a charger at every parking space within their complex especially when it will cost thousands of dollars to outfit every parking space. The electric bill is the other thing where the landlord is most definitely going to make the tenant pay that bill.
@@kabloosh699 I don't think anyone is suggesting they have a charager at every parking space. But yes many complexes have a handful of electric charging spots
There are no chargers being installed in apartment complexes in my area, but they are all full so no need to buy things to attract new tenants. The condos near me selling for $600k are installing outdoor 15a 120v outlets though to attract buyers, as they have been struggling to fund the construction through sales of the units.
Saying EVs are going to have a breakout year because they are going to be sold at far below the profitablity line because they won’t sell at the volume government regulations require is silly. If the new administration eliminates those mandates 2025 will be the high water mark for EV sales as the manufacturers drop production and return to making what the consumer really wants. And the new charger - both EV/ice will be a dog. Far too large.
It’s called being out of touch with reality. He said it in the beginning of the video that he has people commenting on his videos that EVs are trash and that no one wants them. But goes on to talk about people buying them, that’s only due to the EV market crashing, anyone with a brain would buy a EV and lease it to make money then dump it, it’s like shorting a stock you know is going to plummet to the ground, after the dump you get rid of it.
Two to Three major automakers (Stellantis, Nissan, and Volkswagen) will undergo brutally painful restructurings but avoid bankruptcy via government interventions from both European Countries, the EU, and the USA. What none of them realize is that we passed "peak car" in 1999 and have been shrinking in total demand every year since then at a Minus -1.5% compound annual rate as the baby boom gets too old to remain in the new car buying market. The more demand declines the more automakers will find themselves in trouble.
My prediction, someone will make a $20,000 truck, not make enough of them, then raise the price to $30,000 and up once they start becoming more available
Bankruptcy for most manufacturing 25% import tariffs, no EV taxes credit. Bankruptcy bankruptcy bankruptcy discounts 10k off a ford truck 🛻 and ford adds more hybrids V8 in 2025 f-150 to f-350!!! 70% of all the parts come from American 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽 lol 😂 and a trade war would increase prices cause looses. Europe has a lot of electric ⚡️ vehicles under 20k and and China 🇨🇳 has a lot of EV under 10k lol 😂 cheap EV will be normal the new sodium 🧂 batteries cost 1,500 for a car and 4,000 dollars a truck battery 🔋 lol 😂 sodium batteries are coming to China next year and they are 60% less expensive than LFP and LFP are 30% less expensive the rare earth metal NMC batteries.
Supply and demand; if demand outstrips supply, the price goes up until demand drops enough to meet supply. You want the price to stay $20k? Don’t show as much interest and demand for it.
I am not sure your predictions were bold? Electric cars are not affordable and will not be affordable in 2025. Yes, a few EV’s will be an average good deal because they are over stocked, but the charging network is still too poorly developed. Vehicles are only going to get more expensive, not less expensive.
EV's are NOT the future and are still a good 15+ years away from being even competitive with a traditional ICE vehicle. The sooner manufactures realize this and make models with ICE as standard and EV as an OPTION, they will see which sells far better. The EV consumer is still the minority of vehicle buyers.
My prediction? After years of free money and stimulus checks, all manufacturers are realizing they cannot gouge consumers any longer. I think if the EV incentives end, EV sales will stagnate. EV’s biggest problem , they don’t work for apartment dwellers or people who drive a lot or live in cold climates etc. price is only one of their problems. A vehicle for me = freedom of movement.EV = lack of freedom of movement. Roman only needs to look at his ID Buzz video. EV’s are a compromise at best.
Manual transmissions have hit the lowest point and will make a comeback - slow for 2025-2026, but they will spread, then 2027-2030 they will return to 2010 levels. Why? Many of us want them and they are cheaper to make.
The only prediction I have is everyone is going to want a 20 year or older vehicle because new cars will have no buyer because prices are too😢expensive!
@@davidrudd9846 it absolutely did prior to the model 3; it still wasn’t making a profit and was in danger of becoming insolvent due to the accruing debt and lack of new investors.
Honda and Tesla dominate the most made in the US vehicles. Buying American doesn't mean what it used to. The big 3 make very few vehicles here anymore.
The first couple years will suck because companies outsourced jobs and manufacturing, but it will force them to rebuild infrastructure in America as sales tank due to increased cost. That will lead to an abundance of jobs and higher quality products in the long term once the infrastructure is there. Basically a return to the supply chain and manufacturing state of things from back in the 50’s, which I hear was very lucrative for Americans.
I love listening guys... but this podcast didn't come across as being prepared. Andre must not have been given the prompt for discussing bold discussions because everything seemed to come off top of mind and not well thought out. I did appreciate all the guests! Alex and MotoMan are both pretty smart guys. Nissan and Honda will get close together... which is concerning as a Honda fan.
While I would like the Ranger or Colorado to surpass the tacoma, their build capacity just isn’t there. Ford and GM also do not have the variations to attract all the types of customers toyota does.
While I would like the Ranger or Colorado to surpass the tacoma, their build capacity just isn’t there. Ford and GM also do not have the variations to attract all the types of customers toyota does. I also predict with Carlos gone, stellantis will drop prices on all their products or offer deep discounts by Q1.
Once again Roman, you keep speaking of free money from the government. Or free or cheap EVs. Where does that money come from? You need to understand that government doesn’t have money to give away.
Roman says he’s a bit confused because folks are angry about the government’s giveaway to their EV neighbors but seem completely cool with the billions of their tax dollars going to corporate farming, big oil, General Dynamics and even Elon Musk in the form of carb credit dollars.
@@TFLtalk Elon has said there shouldn’t be subsidies for EVs either. The free money from government thing isn’t sustainable. Build a good product and people will buy it. That’s what America was built on. Get government the heck out of picking winners and losers in the auto business and we’d all be better off for it. And yes, I’m talking about getting rid of the chicken tax too. Consumers are sick of American car companies and the American government telling us what we want or can have. We see vehicles the rest of the world has and we want those too.
Everything “free” is paid for by something else. We don’t say “Buy one, get the second one provided to you but paid for by the sales of other products sold at full price, primarily to other consumers”.
My bold prediction for 2025 is that Dodge will introduce a concept Dodge Viper with V10 engine and say the plan is to start production in 2027 only later to tell everyone that halo vehicles are no longer possible so they will introduce a concept Stealth R/T Twin Turbo EV. Later they will come out and say that two door EV sports cars are not feasible and introduce a concept Neon EV. A year later Dodge will begin production of the Neon EV and it will fail.
Bankruptcy for most manufacturing 25% import tariffs, no EV taxes credit. Bankruptcy bankruptcy bankruptcy discounts 10k off a ford truck 🛻 and ford adds more hybrids V8 in 2025 f-150 to f-350!!! 70% of all the parts come from American 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽 lol 😂 and a trade war would increase prices cause looses. Europe has a lot of electric ⚡️ vehicles under 20k and and China 🇨🇳 has a lot of EV under 10k lol 😂 cheap EV will be normal the new sodium 🧂 batteries cost 1,500 for a car and 4,000 dollars a truck battery 🔋 lol 😂 sodium batteries are coming to China next year and they are 60% less expensive than LFP and LFP are 30% less expensive the rare earth metal NMC batteries.
Most " good" EVs charge from 10 to 80 percent in less than half hour. The best in under 20minutes. Charging to 100 percent is where you get stupid times.
The Fiat 500 is 34,000. How is that affordable for what could only be described as a penalty box. I guess when you live on the top of the hill, that's chump change. Nevermind the charging network is in complete decline already. I don't see 2025 being the year of electricity. But what do I know. Just a regular guy.
I predict no one will be able to afford to buy these expensive cars and trucks anymore and they will be rotten on the dealer lot and dealers will end up paying the price and be bankrupted.
I'd like to see GM take the boots to Mary. Also excited to see what Tim has in store for RAM. I'd like to see an off-road Dakota to take on the Ranger Raptor and ZR2 Colorado.
That’s the sort of sheer stupidity that got RDJC in trouble in the first place - why would make such a stupid comment , ??.. “ oh I hope Ram makes a Raptor Ranger competition “.. like a spoiled brat ..
Read the sign. “0 days since Roman’s last stupid statement” and let it soak in. Evs could be LITERALLY FREE. You just did a video about not being able to drive your new van anywhere because of charging issues. I could give you a billion Chinese Yuan. If you can’t spend them anywhere in Denver, you’re still broke. Without the SYSTEMS in place, Evs will never gain ground. Why is that hard to understand ?
@@Cloud30000 that was my point in saying he'd still be broke. CY aint worth much and neither is his prediction of the future. someone needs to pass along the message to stop making bad financial moves... or at least remind him tfl can only take a loss so many years in a row before the irs says no more.
What i predict will happen is that if the next set of vehicles that Dodge/ jeep and ram that are going to be sold do not sell and are hard move then the days of dodge and jeep done!! Right now there Dodge,ram,jeep, Chrysler bend will have to be revamped insanely to save them. But i believe that Chrysler will be killed or completely in 2025! Toyota sales will not go the way they want! Reason is that they have to many suvs that are competing with each other in the same company ,you have a 4 runner trd at 63000-69000 competing with a land cruiser at that same price and a lexus gx at the same price. One of the other asian manufacturers like nissan or Toyota, will be bringing in a small maverick competitor and, Prices will grow by another 4-6% causing used car prices to go higher !
Interesting my bold predictions Nissan will merge with Mitsubishi, Honda as Japanese motorbike companies are struggling financially go green so they working together to offset cost but there only be 2 Japanese car manufacturers left Toyota n ? Second big prediction GM will build global Colorado truck with help n may come back to Australia. Last Prediction HEY CHARGER the return of Pacer for Australia, return of six cylinder Hemi, maybe not big in USA but Australia especially if get Police Highway partol cars contract.
Automaker mergers between two weaklings just create larger, more complex, less manageable, weaklings. about ahlf of total global auto making capacity needs to disappear permanently, NOT just shuffled around by mergers and acquisitions, or bailed out to save jobs. Until it is eliminated overcapacity will cause bloody price battles.
EV’s make sense for people in rural America because in really rural America you can sometimes drive 40 minutes just to find a gas station, but there is electricity everywhere.
I agree with Roman; if the government is giving away money, take it. That’s why I stopped working and I live off welfare now in the free house they provide. Why work if the gov’t has free money for those who do not want to work?
It’s amazing that jeep was an American off-road icon with very little competition for generations, and the decade it gets actual competition it falls apart immediately. I hate to say it but I don’t think jeep is going to make it.
Bankruptcy for most manufacturing 25% import tariffs, no EV taxes credit. Bankruptcy bankruptcy bankruptcy discounts 10k off a ford truck 🛻 and ford adds more hybrids V8 in 2025 f-150 to f-350!!! 70% of all the parts come from American 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽 lol 😂 and a trade war would increase prices cause looses. Europe has a lot of electric ⚡️ vehicles under 20k and and China 🇨🇳 has a lot of EV under 10k lol 😂 cheap EV will be normal the new sodium 🧂 batteries cost 1,500 for a car and 4,000 dollars a truck battery 🔋 lol 😂 sodium batteries are coming to China next year and they are 60% less expensive than LFP and LFP are 30% less expensive the rare earth metal NMC batteries.
My bold prediction for 2025 is that TELO Trucks will produce the world’s most efficient EV pickup for urban living and weekend adventuring. TELO will build a compact EV truck that is the size of a 4-door Mini Cooper and it will instantly become the most popular electric vehicle.
Stellantis is already dead. Chrysler will continue to linger in limbo. Nissan will continue to rot, to eventually purge and be reborn, but not this year. No one will buy it. Hybrids ang plugin hybrids will continue in todays numbers. EVs will continue in their current numbers in the upper price ranges, but will start to break through in the cheaper ranges, led by the current Fiat lease deal and later, less expensive, Tesla release. EV rebates wont be killed, but limited tarrifs will be put in place and will cause car prices to continue rising, adding yet more incentive to buy low end EV's.
something i've seen with the robot comments is that sometimes they steal an early comment and somehow the robot comment ends among the top comments while the original ends up buried at the bottom.
Your gloom and doom is unfounded. Why would you expect higher prices in a better economy? Incredibly high inflation is what has caused prices in the auto industry to skyrocket.
@@Redhawk24 what does gasoline have to do with my question? is gasoline plugged in to an electric current? i ask a serious question and you make a stupid remark.
Doesn't anyone understand TCO? It doesn't matter how much a vehicle cost when you buy it. What matters is the resale value and deduct the maintenance and insurance. Depending on country factor in interest.
They won't Noone in their right mind will ever buy an electric vehicle. Leasing ok, but then the leasing company will sit ont he used car until its rusted away or burned up.
Bold Predictions: stellantis goes bankrupt, all Jeep/DODGE/RAM production stops. All auto sales continue to slow due to high prices until they basically grind to a halt in late 2025.
every time I hear Moto man talk he just sounds like an out of touch, clueless old fool. but he’s got this weird talent where he can be half right while still sounding like a fool and being wrong on the coming and going of the whole damn thing.
On the EVs you're right. It's not a prediction at this point. Goldman Sachs did a report on the prices of EV batteries are dropping by huge margins. Next year is the paradigm shift for the EV industry. Especially since EVs will be the same price as ICE, and will get lower after that. With the high cost of living and fuel prices expected to rise further. Yeah, of your lifestyle allows for an EV, just buy a used one. They're a steal now.
Get out of your progressive bubble. EV may have a spike in sales but it’s only going to be due to how cheap they become, it won’t last. It’s not what the people want. The paradigm shift you’re talking about is flipped, cost of living and gas will come down, this will all take some time but it will. Not everyone wants an EV, the people want reliable and affordable cars/trucks.
😂 porsche gas cars get poor mileage and get smoked by EVs. You also have maintenance cost that's insane. They lost their market in China to EVs. Retreat will be fatal. Battery prices are falling like crazy should help to reduce the cost to ICE levels
My prediction is that if you think vehicles are expensive now, you haven’t seen anything yet.
Hehehe, your prediction is incomplete. Cars will be cheaper. If you buy EVs. Battery prices are dropping hard. More than 50% since last year.. and expect another 50% by 2026. So EVs are getting cheaper to manufacture.
If you are buying an ICE or hybrid..yeah, they'll keep on getting expensive
Maybe, these tariffs that china is paying will raise prices.
Bankruptcy for most manufacturing 25% import tariffs, no EV taxes credit. Bankruptcy bankruptcy bankruptcy discounts 10k off a ford truck 🛻 and ford adds more hybrids V8 in 2025 f-150 to f-350!!! 70% of all the parts come from American 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽 lol 😂 and a trade war would increase prices cause looses. Europe has a lot of electric ⚡️ vehicles under 20k and and China 🇨🇳 has a lot of EV under 10k lol 😂 cheap EV will be normal the new sodium 🧂 batteries cost 1,500 for a car and 4,000 dollars a truck battery 🔋 lol 😂 sodium batteries are coming to China next year and they are 60% less expensive than LFP and LFP are 30% less expensive the rare earth metal NMC batteries.
@@derrickschultz6871yep.
Can't be benefitting from foreign slave labor anymore. Time to bring back manufacturing to the US.
@@derrickschultz6871 that makes zero sense
I think road tripping the 500e will be worse than road tripping the Buzz, but it will be fun to watch the misadventures in a video.
Insane EV leases in Colorado, not everywhere.
My prediction is that Trump's tariffs are negotiating tactics. While there maybe some tarriffs levied in certain places, primarily they are leverage to get what he wants.
Art of the deal.....
I don’t like Roman trying to ram down Nathan‘s throat the 500 E! Nathan, I was almost to the point of telling Roman to F -0
Recon will be a flop
EV off-roader will be hard to sell. Jeep was supposed to be a keep it simple car company
Glad to see Nathan and Roman together! The OG TFL team needs to stay together and make more appearances together!
Until the charging network & charging time is equivalent to filling up a gas tank, EVs will still face resistance. To make them feasible owners need the charging equipment installed at home. Then there's still the ever-present threat of the battery catching on fire and burning your house down. The cold weather range drop & cold weather charging problem needs to be solved. And what are apartment dwellers supposed to do for home charging?
Real original. You bring up solved issues like it was 2018 still. 😂. Sure apartments need charging infrastructure but charging at home is 99% for most folks.
Roman acts like we didn’t just watch him have a complete meltdown and panic after picking up the VW Buzz and how difficult, annoying, and tedious it is to drive an EV anywhere if you’re using public charging instead of your house. Yet everytime Andre picks up a new gas truck from wherever (such as their Tundra from Texas), he drives it straight back no problem. TFL has a voice, please use it for good. Which would be taking advantage of the Stallantis disaster, and pushing for them to return to the Hemi V8 and normal vehicles in general. Not a single environmentalist EVER bought a Charger/Challenger. That’s a bro car for people who just wanna have fun and be loud. Stop trying to force people to change. As you always say Roman, give people choices. Ford’s done it with the lightning, Mercedes with their IQ cars, etc, taking a step back from their EV mistakes. If you keep saying how much you love EVs, you’re gonna ruin it for the rest of us that DON’T want one
Calm down dude. The market will speak. The legacy auto bros will go out of business and either get bought out or parted out while Tesla will steamroll them all. They aren't making good EVs because either they are for compliance or just aren't taking it serious. Gas engines are so 1900. You'd know that if you drove a Tesla 😂
Sorry dude. Left-wing environmentalist here. Had 2 challengers. LOVED them.
I think Andre is right, the Jeep Gladiator is dead after 2025. However, I think it will be reborn as a Ram branded midsizer. The PHEV version of it will fit in well with the EREV and Ramcharger fullsizers. It probably gets IFS and breaks its direct connection to the Wrangler.
The one PHEV that SHOULD be brought over: The Ranger PHEV that you covered earlier
Also, Chrysler had a straight six hemi in the Australian market, so that would not be unprecedented.
Something else to consider: Most of our oil refineries were built decades ago and are set up to process heavy crude.
Most of what we produce is light crude, which we export. It would take about a year or so, and hundreds of millions of dollars, to swap the refineries over.
Most of the heavy crude they DO process comes from Canada(50%) and Mexico(10%) so tariffs would cause a fuel price shock
Bold prediction: 2 years ago I made a prediction. Gas being 2.25 a gallon or less. By 2030
If big oil wants to keep selling to consumers, they will make sure ICE engines stay around due to cheap running cost.
Slowing down the EV market.
But first it'll spike.
Keep your v8s😅
Bold prediction for 2025 is that Carlos Ghosn and Carlos Tavares team up to lead Nissan through this troubling time to make Nissan a top 3 global automotive company.
Musk has actually championed the complete elimination of the EV rebate, as he thinks the other EVs will disappear an unprofitable without them while Musk can eat the lost profit but make up for it sales as all the buyers of new EVs have to get Teslas.
Manufacturers can’t even make a good starting battery.😂 I rented a Wrangler hybrid in Colorado last Christmas & the thing never charged because it was…..cold. It drank MORE GAS in charge mode & could only run on battery for a few minutes. 😮I’ll take my Rub Gladiator in Gator, any day. My daily driver, 2008 Avalanche LTZ, 430,000 miles & going. $37k new & free since 2011. 😂
No one that wants a V8 will be happy with a V6 just because it gets called a Hemi, and naming it Hemi will have no impact versus any other name with the same improved performance.
The Hemi is cool because it is a V8, not because it has hemispherical heads.
I wish you all a merry Christmas! Everyone who presented in this video is a class act and I thank you all for your contributions. Be well into the new year.
My bold prediction: Tesla will spin off everything not related to cars, along with Musk, and will partner with GM.
Honda will work with Nissan, but not necessarily own it. Infiniti will be the dealer home for Honda and Sony’s Aféela cars.
Beyond 2025, not only will engine research and development be shared between manufacturers, so will EV platforms, or the Skateboard. Further hardware and software different will differentiate the different brands and product lines. The technology underpinning these differences will breathe new le into automotive suppliers in building these new technologies and shared business ventures between manufacturers looking to vertically integrate.
Subaru and Mazda will get even closer and share dealerships.
Buck will fold as Chinese buyers have abandoned it.
My prediction:
EVs get abandoned, model lineups get consolidated to only the most profitable vehicles, the trade wars cause more parts shortages and lower availability\higher prices, and the markets get saturated with EVs (both new and used) that cannot sell once the EV rebates are ended but they will refuse to lower the price and sit on them for a year rather then take a loss on the sale.
The first whispers of the return to large N\A ICE and Diesel Engines with less unreliable components as discussions regarding rolling back emissions regulations take place, but it will take a couple years to see an actual impact on manufacturer plans
This is a great prediction and one that could be very possible.
@ 21:46
The Hemi V8 will be fitted in there
They are testing it in Mexico according to TK
I'm glad somebody else knows this because every car vid I watch they have no clue 😂😂😂
Put the 6.4 v8 in the 1500 with the zf transmission. They'll sell like hotcakes.
@@shanes481Big facts. Stellantis just ordered up a bunch of hellcat engines to be built. They putting it back in the Durango again and a pickup truck
The 6.4 is too big and too heavy to fit inside the standard 1500; you need a custom chassis engine bay like the TRX to fit it.
@Cloud30000 talking about the charger 👀
I did not know that Honda Prologues were outselling Chevy Blazer EVs. I do prefer the styling on the Prologue. I like the Blazer EV styling, too, way better than the MachE, but the Blazer EV is a little over-the-top. I prefer the more subtle styling of the Prologue.
Panic buying drives prices higher Roman. That would prop up the overpriced market that much more. Poor advice
How do you charge your ev if you live in an apartment?
That's the neat part. You don't.
Many apartment complexes have been installing chargers.
@@dirtandhappiness2023 chargers aren't cheap and you aren't going to see apartment complexes putting a charger at every parking space within their complex especially when it will cost thousands of dollars to outfit every parking space.
The electric bill is the other thing where the landlord is most definitely going to make the tenant pay that bill.
@@kabloosh699 I don't think anyone is suggesting they have a charager at every parking space. But yes many complexes have a handful of electric charging spots
There are no chargers being installed in apartment complexes in my area, but they are all full so no need to buy things to attract new tenants. The condos near me selling for $600k are installing outdoor 15a 120v outlets though to attract buyers, as they have been struggling to fund the construction through sales of the units.
Knowledgeable on cars: yes
Knowledgeable on economics: no
Being that new vehicles are too expensive and will only get worse, the Used car market is going to get hot! in 2025
Saying EVs are going to have a breakout year because they are going to be sold at far below the profitablity line because they won’t sell at the volume government regulations require is silly.
If the new administration eliminates those mandates 2025 will be the high water mark for EV sales as the manufacturers drop production and return to making what the consumer really wants.
And the new charger - both EV/ice will be a dog. Far too large.
He said people will buy USED EVs will smoke used gas cars because of price. The new car market is still unknown.
@ he talked quite a bit about new EV pricing.
Roman needs to go. He is unbearable to watch and it seems like he does no research and just rambles.
It’s called being out of touch with reality. He said it in the beginning of the video that he has people commenting on his videos that EVs are trash and that no one wants them. But goes on to talk about people buying them, that’s only due to the EV market crashing, anyone with a brain would buy a EV and lease it to make money then dump it, it’s like shorting a stock you know is going to plummet to the ground, after the dump you get rid of it.
Roman says it’s weird today when you watch media that doesn’t agree with your world view just upset people get. 🤔
Two to Three major automakers (Stellantis, Nissan, and Volkswagen) will undergo brutally painful restructurings but avoid bankruptcy via government interventions from both European Countries, the EU, and the USA. What none of them realize is that we passed "peak car" in 1999 and have been shrinking in total demand every year since then at a Minus -1.5% compound annual rate as the baby boom gets too old to remain in the new car buying market. The more demand declines the more automakers will find themselves in trouble.
Ford should make a maverick SUV version.
They probably won't do it because the Bronco sport is derived from that same platform.
Ford has struggled with the smaller SUV,s with quality and sales. The Maverick is awesome so maybe it can work? Good idea, you’re on the right track.
They do, its called the Escape and baby Bronco…. They are built on the same platform
My prediction, someone will make a $20,000 truck, not make enough of them, then raise the price to $30,000 and up once they start becoming more available
Lmao
Bankruptcy for most manufacturing 25% import tariffs, no EV taxes credit. Bankruptcy bankruptcy bankruptcy discounts 10k off a ford truck 🛻 and ford adds more hybrids V8 in 2025 f-150 to f-350!!! 70% of all the parts come from American 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽 lol 😂 and a trade war would increase prices cause looses. Europe has a lot of electric ⚡️ vehicles under 20k and and China 🇨🇳 has a lot of EV under 10k lol 😂 cheap EV will be normal the new sodium 🧂 batteries cost 1,500 for a car and 4,000 dollars a truck battery 🔋 lol 😂 sodium batteries are coming to China next year and they are 60% less expensive than LFP and LFP are 30% less expensive the rare earth metal NMC batteries.
I feel like this was done fairly recently.
Supply and demand; if demand outstrips supply, the price goes up until demand drops enough to meet supply.
You want the price to stay $20k? Don’t show as much interest and demand for it.
You need to spend more time out of Boulder. You are living in a progressive bubble.
Yaa they need to spend more time in the failed red states
You mean “failed” red states like FL and TX and others that have higher economic growth rates than the “successful” NY and CA?
Bold Prediction - Roman will let Andre buy old trucks that aren't Land Rovers in 2025
any new affordable ice vehicle will be a success
I agree with the Lucid/Rivian prediction. I do believe the merger of the two companies would he great for the two brands
I’m going to keep my 2013 GX 460 with a V8 as long as I can. I only get an EV after that if it’s the only choice
Keep the GX 460, it’s a great vehicle and very reliable, keep it even if the only thing left is EVs.
I like this episode but can you do this for the Z Generation
Great suggestion
Car type shit on skibidi.
There now you understand what they’re saying.
I am not sure your predictions were bold? Electric cars are not affordable and will not be affordable in 2025. Yes, a few EV’s will be an average good deal because they are over stocked, but the charging network is still too poorly developed. Vehicles are only going to get more expensive, not less expensive.
EV's are NOT the future and are still a good 15+ years away from being even competitive with a traditional ICE vehicle. The sooner manufactures realize this and make models with ICE as standard and EV as an OPTION, they will see which sells far better. The EV consumer is still the minority of vehicle buyers.
How come a taxpayer funded EV from Italy is great ,but one from China needs a 100% tariff?
My prediction? After years of free money and stimulus checks, all manufacturers are realizing they cannot gouge consumers any longer. I think if the EV incentives end, EV sales will stagnate. EV’s biggest problem , they don’t work for apartment dwellers or people who drive a lot or live in cold climates etc. price is only one of their problems. A vehicle for me = freedom of movement.EV = lack of freedom of movement. Roman only needs to look at his ID Buzz video. EV’s are a compromise at best.
Manual transmissions have hit the lowest point and will make a comeback - slow for 2025-2026, but they will spread, then 2027-2030 they will return to 2010 levels. Why? Many of us want them and they are cheaper to make.
Fewer people know how to drive manual every year; not enough profit in making them for the shrinking market capable of driving them.
We're living through the repeat of the 70's in every way. Carter was a Monster and the cars sucked.
And Raegon spend lots of money you did not have ... which is why you stilol have to pay back those loans today, with interest.
The only prediction I have is everyone is going to want a 20 year or older vehicle because new cars will have no buyer because prices are too😢expensive!
If there is an EV pullback and less of a penalty for gasoline, will VW put a 6 cylinder in the Atlas? I say this as a Touareg owner and love the 3.6
Really?? EVs are not saving any company!!
The model 3 saved Tesla
@@Cloud30000 Tesla did not need saving
@@davidrudd9846 it absolutely did prior to the model 3; it still wasn’t making a profit and was in danger of becoming insolvent due to the accruing debt and lack of new investors.
Buy american to avoid tariffs. Simple
Honda and Tesla dominate the most made in the US vehicles. Buying American doesn't mean what it used to. The big 3 make very few vehicles here anymore.
Find an "American" truck that doesn't have foreign parts.
But even the “American” cars are filled with foreign made parts that will be subject to tariffs. The price of EVERYTHING will go up.
Even the most made in America vehicles have about 70% American parts so tariffs would increase the price of them too.
The first couple years will suck because companies outsourced jobs and manufacturing, but it will force them to rebuild infrastructure in America as sales tank due to increased cost. That will lead to an abundance of jobs and higher quality products in the long term once the infrastructure is there. Basically a return to the supply chain and manufacturing state of things from back in the 50’s, which I hear was very lucrative for Americans.
Tesla needs a real SUV. Something like the shape of an EV9. The model Y is just a model 3 with a little more trunk space.
Dad will bring back a V8 at the end of 25
I do not believe a RAV4 has a third row if I’m not mistaken
Calling the RHO a HEMI would betray its customer base. HEMI in principle is more branding than it is technology.
I love listening guys... but this podcast didn't come across as being prepared. Andre must not have been given the prompt for discussing bold discussions because everything seemed to come off top of mind and not well thought out. I did appreciate all the guests! Alex and MotoMan are both pretty smart guys.
Nissan and Honda will get close together... which is concerning as a Honda fan.
While I would like the Ranger or Colorado to surpass the tacoma, their build capacity just isn’t there. Ford and GM also do not have the variations to attract all the types of customers toyota does.
24 raptor R msrp $118,000 marked up $50,000. $168,000 Page Arizona at Lake Powell Ford. Sheez that’s crazy outrageous price
While I would like the Ranger or Colorado to surpass the tacoma, their build capacity just isn’t there. Ford and GM also do not have the variations to attract all the types of customers toyota does.
I also predict with Carlos gone, stellantis will drop prices on all their products or offer deep discounts by Q1.
I probably won't get an EV for a while but I still don't feel safe about charging them while in the garage. And no I don't want it outside.
Once again Roman, you keep speaking of free money from the government. Or free or cheap EVs. Where does that money come from? You need to understand that government doesn’t have money to give away.
From us who live in cheap apartments with no chargers. How fair is that.
Roman says he’s a bit confused because folks are angry about the government’s giveaway to their EV neighbors but seem completely cool with the billions of their tax dollars going to corporate farming, big oil, General Dynamics and even Elon Musk in the form of carb credit dollars.
@@TFLtalk Elon has said there shouldn’t be subsidies for EVs either. The free money from government thing isn’t sustainable. Build a good product and people will buy it. That’s what America was built on.
Get government the heck out of picking winners and losers in the auto business and we’d all be better off for it. And yes, I’m talking about getting rid of the chicken tax too. Consumers are sick of American car companies and the American government telling us what we want or can have. We see vehicles the rest of the world has and we want those too.
Everything “free” is paid for by something else. We don’t say “Buy one, get the second one provided to you but paid for by the sales of other products sold at full price, primarily to other consumers”.
@@TFLtalk my mom always told me, "two wrongs don't make a right"
I would like you see long range EV test. Tow the 500e for CO to CA with a GM EV truck.
My bold prediction for 2025 is that Dodge will introduce a concept Dodge Viper with V10 engine and say the plan is to start production in 2027 only later to tell everyone that halo vehicles are no longer possible so they will introduce a concept Stealth R/T Twin Turbo EV. Later they will come out and say that two door EV sports cars are not feasible and introduce a concept Neon EV. A year later Dodge will begin production of the Neon EV and it will fail.
Whoa
Bankruptcy for most manufacturing 25% import tariffs, no EV taxes credit. Bankruptcy bankruptcy bankruptcy discounts 10k off a ford truck 🛻 and ford adds more hybrids V8 in 2025 f-150 to f-350!!! 70% of all the parts come from American 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽 lol 😂 and a trade war would increase prices cause looses. Europe has a lot of electric ⚡️ vehicles under 20k and and China 🇨🇳 has a lot of EV under 10k lol 😂 cheap EV will be normal the new sodium 🧂 batteries cost 1,500 for a car and 4,000 dollars a truck battery 🔋 lol 😂 sodium batteries are coming to China next year and they are 60% less expensive than LFP and LFP are 30% less expensive the rare earth metal NMC batteries.
Where will Volvo be in 5 years given their stated goal of retiring ICE cars?
Dodge being confusing on names? Yeah how about making a four-door charger car? Why don't they just make a four-door viper?
Nathan, I said that already
Thinking you know more about tariffs than the incoming administration is pretty funny
Why would Jeep being electric Jeep be exciting? Or how it would save cheap? I think it's just the opposite
In 2025, I predict the spelling of EVIL will start with EV...oh wait, it already does... :)
No one wants a plug in Gladiator if it comes with a 4 cylinder.
I’m definitely going for the gas car electric is not convenient when it could take you two hours to charge it on a long trip if not, more
Most " good" EVs charge from 10 to 80 percent in less than half hour. The best in under 20minutes. Charging to 100 percent is where you get stupid times.
The Fiat 500 is 34,000. How is that affordable for what could only be described as a penalty box. I guess when you live on the top of the hill, that's chump change. Nevermind the charging network is in complete decline already. I don't see 2025 being the year of electricity. But what do I know. Just a regular guy.
I predict no one will be able to afford to buy these expensive cars and trucks anymore and they will be rotten on the dealer lot and dealers will end up paying the price and be bankrupted.
Based motoman
Miata will still be a "sporty car" in 2025 and beyond!!!!!😂
I'd like to see GM take the boots to Mary. Also excited to see what Tim has in store for RAM. I'd like to see an off-road Dakota to take on the Ranger Raptor and ZR2 Colorado.
That’s the sort of sheer stupidity that got RDJC in trouble in the first place - why would make such a stupid comment , ??.. “ oh I hope Ram makes a Raptor Ranger competition “.. like a spoiled brat ..
Dodge will bring back a V8 at the end of 25
I predict every auto manufacturer will go bankrupt in 2025
Read the sign. “0 days since Roman’s last stupid statement” and let it soak in. Evs could be LITERALLY FREE. You just did a video about not being able to drive your new van anywhere because of charging issues. I could give you a billion Chinese Yuan. If you can’t spend them anywhere in Denver, you’re still broke. Without the SYSTEMS in place, Evs will never gain ground. Why is that hard to understand ?
You’re 100% correct. Because they’re stuck in a false sense of reality. No one wants an EV, the people want reliable and affordable cars/trucks.
To be fair, a hundred billion Chinese Yen is like two US dollars, so he would still be broke even if he could spend them.
@@Cloud30000 that was my point in saying he'd still be broke. CY aint worth much and neither is his prediction of the future. someone needs to pass along the message to stop making bad financial moves... or at least remind him tfl can only take a loss so many years in a row before the irs says no more.
What i predict will happen is that if the next set of vehicles that Dodge/ jeep and ram that are going to be sold do not sell and are hard move then the days of dodge and jeep done!! Right now there Dodge,ram,jeep, Chrysler bend will have to be revamped insanely to save them. But i believe that Chrysler will be killed or completely in 2025!
Toyota sales will not go the way they want! Reason is that they have to many suvs that are competing with each other in the same company ,you have a 4 runner trd at 63000-69000 competing with a land cruiser at that same price and a lexus gx at the same price.
One of the other asian manufacturers like nissan or Toyota, will be bringing in a small maverick competitor and,
Prices will grow by another 4-6% causing used car prices to go higher !
Electric car lease deals were caused because no one bought them and they produced way too many
Funny how gas cars went up over inflation and EVs went down...but that's a BAD thing? Gimme a break.
And we’re all paying for those “free” cars. Either through our taxes or when we buy a $50,000 truck for $75,000.
Interesting my bold predictions Nissan will merge with Mitsubishi, Honda as Japanese motorbike companies are struggling financially go green so they working together to offset cost but there only be 2 Japanese car manufacturers left Toyota n ? Second big prediction GM will build global Colorado truck with help n may come back to Australia. Last Prediction HEY CHARGER the return of Pacer for Australia, return of six cylinder Hemi, maybe not big in USA but Australia especially if get Police Highway partol cars contract.
I love how all of this guys channels is just pushing EVs. I love the channels… but cmon. Stfu about electric cars! Nobody wants them.
Hmmmmm - Roman and Nathan in a Fiat 500? Keep plenty of vegetable oil on hand.
Colorado just throw money at EV leases and purchases, no every state has these type of incentives.
Nor is it sustainable.
Automaker mergers between two weaklings just create larger, more complex, less manageable, weaklings. about ahlf of total global auto making capacity needs to disappear permanently, NOT just shuffled around by mergers and acquisitions, or bailed out to save jobs. Until it is eliminated overcapacity will cause bloody price battles.
They should just make a hemispherical 6 cylinder engine.
EV’s make sense for people in rural America because in really rural America you can sometimes drive 40 minutes just to find a gas station, but there is electricity everywhere.
I agree with Roman; if the government is giving away money, take it. That’s why I stopped working and I live off welfare now in the free house they provide.
Why work if the gov’t has free money for those who do not want to work?
Yeah screw people. Let’s give more money to corporations and Musk.
It’s amazing that jeep was an American off-road icon with very little competition for generations, and the decade it gets actual competition it falls apart immediately. I hate to say it but I don’t think jeep is going to make it.
Jeep has had its struggles, especially with pricing and reliability, but it’s not going away. The brand is too valuable.
Bankruptcy for most manufacturing 25% import tariffs, no EV taxes credit. Bankruptcy bankruptcy bankruptcy discounts 10k off a ford truck 🛻 and ford adds more hybrids V8 in 2025 f-150 to f-350!!! 70% of all the parts come from American 🇺🇸 Canada 🇨🇦 and Mexico 🇲🇽 lol 😂 and a trade war would increase prices cause looses. Europe has a lot of electric ⚡️ vehicles under 20k and and China 🇨🇳 has a lot of EV under 10k lol 😂 cheap EV will be normal the new sodium 🧂 batteries cost 1,500 for a car and 4,000 dollars a truck battery 🔋 lol 😂 sodium batteries are coming to China next year and they are 60% less expensive than LFP and LFP are 30% less expensive the rare earth metal NMC batteries.
I don't see Jeep going anywhere. Maybe ownership changes hands, but it will be around.
My bold prediction for 2025 is that TELO Trucks will produce the world’s most efficient EV pickup for urban living and weekend adventuring. TELO will build a compact EV truck that is the size of a 4-door Mini Cooper and it will instantly become the most popular electric vehicle.
Stellantis is already dead. Chrysler will continue to linger in limbo. Nissan will continue to rot, to eventually purge and be reborn, but not this year. No one will buy it. Hybrids ang plugin hybrids will continue in todays numbers. EVs will continue in their current numbers in the upper price ranges, but will start to break through in the cheaper ranges, led by the current Fiat lease deal and later, less expensive, Tesla release. EV rebates wont be killed, but limited tarrifs will be put in place and will cause car prices to continue rising, adding yet more incentive to buy low end EV's.
I predict Cadillac will sell more EV’s in 2025 than ICE.
something i've seen with the robot comments is that sometimes they steal an early comment and somehow the robot comment ends among the top comments while the original ends up buried at the bottom.
Something, Sometimes, Somehow. 😃
Your gloom and doom is unfounded. Why would you expect higher prices in a better economy? Incredibly high inflation is what has caused prices in the auto industry to skyrocket.
EV'S. Are they safe enough to keep and charge in a garage? What are the facts, and do any manufacturers suggest otherwise? 😊😊😊
Imagine when you find out gasoline is flammable
@@Redhawk24 ICE cars don't just blow up sitting there.
@ about as much as EVs
@@Redhawk24 Yesterday, 3 EV’s on my street exploded in a giant fireball while parked on the street. Crazy times.
@@Redhawk24 what does gasoline have to do with my question? is gasoline plugged in to an electric current? i ask a serious question and you make a stupid remark.
Doesn't anyone understand TCO?
It doesn't matter how much a vehicle cost when you buy it. What matters is the resale value and deduct the maintenance and insurance.
Depending on country factor in interest.
If used EVs become popular new EVs will sell even more
They won't
Noone in their right mind will ever buy an electric vehicle.
Leasing ok, but then the leasing company will sit ont he used car until its rusted away or burned up.
Take over Toyota?? LOL get real.
Bold prediction 2025 is that people realize that electric vehicles are superior to PHEV and decide to purchase EVs in record numbers.
Bold Predictions: stellantis goes bankrupt, all Jeep/DODGE/RAM production stops. All auto sales continue to slow due to high prices until they basically grind to a halt in late 2025.
every time I hear Moto man talk he just sounds like an out of touch, clueless old fool. but he’s got this weird talent where he can be half right while still sounding like a fool and being wrong on the coming and going of the whole damn thing.
On the EVs you're right. It's not a prediction at this point. Goldman Sachs did a report on the prices of EV batteries are dropping by huge margins.
Next year is the paradigm shift for the EV industry. Especially since EVs will be the same price as ICE, and will get lower after that.
With the high cost of living and fuel prices expected to rise further. Yeah, of your lifestyle allows for an EV, just buy a used one. They're a steal now.
Get out of your progressive bubble. EV may have a spike in sales but it’s only going to be due to how cheap they become, it won’t last. It’s not what the people want. The paradigm shift you’re talking about is flipped, cost of living and gas will come down, this will all take some time but it will. Not everyone wants an EV, the people want reliable and affordable cars/trucks.
😂 porsche gas cars get poor mileage and get smoked by EVs. You also have maintenance cost that's insane. They lost their market in China to EVs. Retreat will be fatal. Battery prices are falling like crazy should help to reduce the cost to ICE levels