Windows | MacOS | Linux - Future Perspective
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- With more questions about OS Privacy coming up, and more concerns from supplier based on the new functionality in operating systems, there may be a shift in popularity of Operating systems. So far Windows has been an absolute dominant for many years without any change. Is there a chance that this will change?
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I wish Linux adoption rate was so much higher, this would allow 3rd party vendors to start creating drivers, support etc for Linux. The minute Microsoft realizes that Linux is gaining traction because of the issues with Windows they would fix their junk. C'mon Linux get to 20% adoption!
In my opinion, Linux must reinforce an strategy and market it well. For example, Linux is developed by a community of developers (redundancy), and that has made Linux to be an atractive OS for them. I considered that a success atracting that people. But it needs more first class programs for other sectors, as Mac and Windows has for themselves, that can only be running in Linux, because what it matters, is the software available in your OS that is not available in others.
@@georgebetrian676 This will not be the direction FOSS will take, thats like the opposite.
Linux is not a company that want to rake in money, unlike Mac and Windows that have their own echo system, programming languages and all that shit, linux app tend to just be written using languages that combine to binaries and you would just change the compile setting to compile to other platforms.
The idea is for it to be an open platform and purposely trying to make linux specific software to lock in users would if anything just drive people away because what is that point?
For developers and servers linux has actually done this with containerisation which is a technology thats been killing things like freeBSD but both mac and windows have implementations of this now (WSL + docker on mac that is actually a VM...)
Linux does
But when you look at what is not available on mac and windows like for example, window managers like hyprland, these are available on freeBSD
If you think its software that should attract people to linux then I dont think you understand the real appeal of linux.
You see ads everywhere ads for windows laptops and desktop PCs or something from Apple
I don't see any ads for laptops and desktop with Linux installed
I have the feeling that Linux is not focused on consumers but rather for devs and enterprise
@@hi2chan who exactly would pay for these adds?
Linux is not a for profit company...
tuxedo do adds for laptops and desktop but they are not linux.
Apple and and Microsoft have a monopoly.
microsoft bulk sell licences to laptop and desktop manufactures to pre-install windows when they sell them.
But look at the steam deck, they specifically picked linux so they dont have to get involved and be locked in to doing business with Microsoft, not that many companies have the ability to compete and most likely PC vendors dont care.
You should be able to buy hardware and install what ever OS you want.
Linux is not for developers and enterprise, its for every one.
@@georgebetrian676 Linux has tons of exclusive software, it's just that they only matter to Linux enthusiasts.
None OS are ez to use, windows is ez for you cuz you have years using windows, and linux is not all about privacy, is about freedom, freedom to use the OS where ever you want, and turn it into what ever you want.
After 4 years of Linux, I have a hard time whenever I have to configure or fox things in Windows.
Can it turn into an OS that companies want to provide drivers and support for? Because it's obviously off-putting for 90% of corporations.
And that's why desktop OSes has no future in general
Never will happen. People will accept all those privacy violations in the name of convenience
I am worried about you might be right
@@Erdie65 not might be he is right but if your in europe the eu will probobly do someting i caant vote yet but i am gratful that i am european and i see the us govermet also folows
No... it's not that.... they just love Bill Gates and want to give him more power over our lives.
Never say never… 😂
That‘s assuming windows is convenient. Right now it seems Microsoft are doing their best to make Windows less and less convenient.
People find convenient what works and what they‘re used to. When my father’s Win-XP PC died, Windows 8 was the current version of Windows. So that‘s what his new PC came with. Win 8 confused him and he hated it and wanted his old XP back. Since that wasn‘t an option I showed him the look of openSuse with a KDE desktop - which was a lot more similar to XP than Win 8 was and he agreed to let me install it on his computer. After I set it up for him - and found a version of solitaire that he liked - he kept finding things he liked better than on Windows XP; things like larger and easier to identify icons, not needing to double-click as often, stuff like that. He stuck with openSuse until he died. My dad was pretty helpless around computers unless someone else set them up specifically for his needs, which might be why the change to Linux was pretty easy for him. He knew too little to notice and get confused by the differences. As long as programs opened with a click on an icon on his desktop and he was able find the icons for „open file“, „save file“, „save as“, „print“ and „quit“ everything was fine in his computing world.
I think there are a lot users like my father, to whom transitioning from one version of windows to another version of windows wouldn‘t be that different from switching from windows to Linux. They‘ll just never know because there‘s no one to expose them to Linux.
By default Recall will be turned off due to backlash against it. That's not to say that Microsoft won't enable it without your consent with an update in the future. They have a bad habit of doing things like that.
I'm now dual booting with mostly using Linux as my main OS. Windows makes my laptop to run out of juice in 1hr minutes. Linux goes for now than 4hrs.
Linux is faster and no crap ware draining resources
When I was dual booting it made me realize just how slow and clunky Windows is compared to Linux. And not only does Windows eat up all the RAM, but then you have the paging file clogging things up as well. At idle, Linux Mint uses about 30% RAM and usually zero paging file resources. I switched to Linux over privacy concerns, but I love the speed and efficiency. Some of the lighter Linux distros are lightning fast on newer machines, such as Lubuntu. My favorite is Mint though, yet still extremely efficient.
great to hear more ppl are using Linux or considering switching to it. This I say as a lifelong windows user until like 4-5 ish years ago maybe(?). I only use windows for Xiaomis windows software when I need to do a very specific thing in their windows apps. and that is pretty much never. Theres window managers you can use if you really wanna let Linux use less ram. But if you have at least 8-16gb of ram or more, you can customize how the kernel handles swap(its basically the same as a paging file on windows) then setting the swappiness(tendency to put data in RAM) to a low setting will make things run a bit faster(I think so) since RAM is so much faster than SSDs in general. I just love tinkering with my Linux pc. I'm running Fedora ATM, their immutable "Atomic" version, which makes me worry less about breaking my system. not suitable for beginners IMHO, its great for me tho.
A lot of people say they don't care about privacy. I think they would care very much if i would go onto their property to look into their livingroom windows to check what kind of TV setup they have and how its arranged to send them better targeted advertisements in their mail.
How is that different to your OS / Browserhistory being used for the same thing? You could make the same argument about Clothing style / sizes and what not. I think a lot of people don't care because it is effort to care and they genuinely do not understand how much of their daily life they (unknowingly) share with creepy companies.
Exactly, then the guns come out LOL People in general are not very bright, quite the opposite. Have been using Linux and dumb TVs for over 3 years now.
@@STONE69_ Any recommendations for dumb TVs? Practically any TV at the store is a smart tv these days with Roku or whatever.
I'm one of those who care. I'm a 55 year old Gen-Xer, and have been supporting PCs and servers in all kinds of environments since the mid 1990s. I've been tinkering with Linux since Debian 2.0 (yup), but until fairly recently I didn't think it was a viable daily driver replacement for Windows or Mac. I'm a dual boxer under most circumstances, and one of the two has been running Linux for a couple of years now. With the announcement of the Recall feature, and with Microsoft's history with security, turning 'features' back on during updates and their trend toward an advertising supported OS model I decided to give Linux another try on my gaming machine. Nearly all of the gaming I do these days is through Steam anyway, and you know what? It all works. There are times I have to dig around a bit for an answer, but mostly stuff just works. I'm not going to hop into the distro wars, not going to advocate for one over another, and I'm certainly not going to say it's for everyone. But if we continue to support bad behavior, why would MS start prioritizing their users?
I am only 31 and trying slowly to move to Linux the more I see physical downloads is tempting me to claim my computer back from the clutches and evil wickedness of Microsoft.
@@TechnoMinded-qp5in Look at your Pi-Hole logs sometime and see just how much telemetry Windows has. I'ts amazing how that log has changed since my move to Linux...
I've recently switched to Linux. I've used Linux for years for server work, but never my main desktop. It's for sure different making it your main go to. But I do personally like Windows. Call me a child, I don't care, I really do enjoy Windows. But Windows 11 was a really tough pill for me to swallow for a lot of reasons. But the moment they announced recall, I noped out.
So I agree. Privacy can be a major reason people will leave Windows. Also I was very pleasantly surprised to see how far Linux has come with Wine in general. Plus, Proton on Steam for gaming works fantastic.
Thank you for your thoughts. I provided tech support to a Windows environment for 16 years, but I've been a Linux home user for over 20 years. I retired in 2015 and spoiled myself with enough computers to play around with a little of everything, jumping to Macs in the process, but keeping the PCs I had. Right now I have a Mac Mini, an iMac, and a Macbook Air (all M1s). I have a Core i7 tower running Ubuntu 24.04, a Ryzen 7 Mini PC running Ubuntu 24.04, and a Core i7 laptop running Zorin OS 17.1. (No more Windows for me.) I love experimenting with Linux, because I am able to help family members extend the life of their hardware when Windows is no longer an option. But, to me, the biggest obstacle to Linux adoption is also its greatest asset. It's a wonderful operating system, but it's not just one operating system. Technically, Linux is the kernel, but there is so much more to the OS than that. How does the Linux community establish and administer a campaign that informs the marketplace, educates potential users concerning their choices, and guides them in selecting and implementing a choice...without getting bogged down in arguments for X11 vs Wayland, KDE Plasma vs Gnome vs Cinnamon, Snap vs Flatpak, open source drivers vs proprietary, and all the other crap we fuss about?
Yeah, it's almost a sort of chicken and egg situation though. The majority of Linux users would probably consider them selves hobbyists so there aren't many people who want to unify and develop a set of standards more aimed at the general public, but until that happens, we won't get the market share that would promote the development of such standards. I don't really think desktop environment matters as UX choice is definitely a good thing, but we definitely need an agreed-upon set of more backend standards between distros and desktop environments. I think it all seems to be tending towards flatpak and wayland (as it matures), but there's still very much problems with e.g. the Gnome devs being difficult around native titlebars etc. which put more strain on developers of applications which means it's less likely things get ported to linux in the first place
@@tomat05 You're right, but, in the meantime, let's continue to have fun and enjoy the freedom, flexibility, stability, power, and safety that make Linux distros so amazing! Good luck with your channel; I'll be keeping an eye on what you're doing!
@danjuroff my channel is from when I got incredibly bored during covid but thanks for the kind words regardless!
I'm liking Linux Mint myself. I do wish it were a bit easier to try other distros to find the exact one that fits you best. I've looked up information on how to do it but it's more complicated than anything I want to deal with right now. Wish keeping your apps and home directory were built into all the installers.
I retired in 2015 too. And play with computers also. Kind of funny our grandkids think old boomers are not tech savvy when our generation invented the stuff.
Something I disagree with is the whole security by obscurity thing. MacOS is simply more secure than Windows even if they had the majority of the market share. 90% of servers run Linux so it should have far more attackers than MacOS and Windows combined.
I didn't dislike Windows as an OS, but I didn't like how Microsoft operates. But the "straw that broke the camel's back" for me was feeling like Microsoft could take control of my computer at any time without my permission. I encountered a virus, and suddenly, Windows took over control and started sending data to Microsoft without asking for permission or allowing me to stop it. I had to do a hard shutdown to get back control of the computer. Then I restarted and dealt with the virus myself. That's when I seriously looked into Linux. I ended up using Manjaro Linux and am still using it today. It was late 2022 when that happened. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but I wasn't happy with the thought that Microsoft could take over my system at any time.
That said, I think there are ways that Linux could be improved, but I don't feel qualified enough to make a contribution, so I just deal with the issues that do come up. Most of the time, I don't have problems, and the few problems I've had, I've been able to resolve.
Finding compatible hardware and drivers for things is has been on of the larger hurldles in me switching to linux.
I was delayed for some time because I couldn't find the drivers for my wifi-dongle. I did eventually find them via aircrack-ng.
People that have this problem, can also buy a USB WIFI adapter for $12 dollars...peanuts...
@STONE69_ $12? In india Maybe... also, there's no guarantee that the one bought won't have the same issue not being supported out of the box.
Mine is a pretty standard Realtek adapter that came with the pc inside the tower. The only other one I've owned (which got stolen) was not 12$, was manufactured by NetGear and was also not supported.
And if I had to guess, a cheap piece of hardware like that wouldn't be able to keep up with the router.
Was there supposed to be a graphic at 0:20?
I switched to Linux now almost 4 years ago and I am very happy. When I will buy new hardware I will check if it's working flawlessly with Linux
Would you want your parents and grandma to be running linux?
Would you like to debug their systems when there are problems?
@@vernearase3044 yes bc I already do it with other OS
@@vernearase3044 My wife is a nurse and the uses Linux for more then 10 years and runs it without help from my side. BTW I would never want to debug a windows system because is almost impossible. If someone runs linux I offer my help, if there is windows, I say I can´t help because this is the case.
Which Linux distro are you recommending thats most like windows ui?
@@vernearase3044 my grandma usees it no isues
There is around 2.5 billion people that have a Computer. 4% of that= over 80 million people. Thats not nothing. Thats over 80 million people, thats quite a lot.
Does that also count people who own a computer for server purposes that use linux to… oh i dunno have a minecraft server…. heck maybe even host a bunch of bots for tf2….
@@asphalt2554 no it dosent that wloud be considerd server market share witch linux dominates
@@nikichashadow hmm okay then
@@nikichashadow in the server world windows actually dominates except one category. Web servers for websites....literally thats it.
@@christopherfortineux6937 as a that's really not true Linux domanetes cloud gaming servers too social middia server
The only reason I am not fully using Linux are games I play with my friends and Adobe Photoshop while all other tasks are done on Linux.
i want to fully switch to arch but i need warframe on linux support and war thunder support
When i moved from XP to Vista i was so disappointed i installed Linux Mint and never looked back. I'm not too tech savvy... i'm just a user. But i struggle when i go on a modern Windows machine these days. Linux is so much easier. I recommend making a live USB of Linux Mint Cinnamon and giving it a go. If you can use Android on a phone.... you can use Linux Mint... after all, they both use a Linux Kernel.
What about FreeBSD? I am running both Ubuntu 16.04 ESM and FreeBSD 13.3 on two separate machines, there will be more limited ways of getting things to work on FreeBSD but it should suffice as long you put in the effort to get your graphic stack working like I did especially with older drivers.
As much as I love FreeBSD as a desktop OS it's even more niche than Linux. That said if you don't mind dealing with the limitations it's a rock solid OS (mostly).
@@nadtz Have you used FreeBSD before what is your experience?
@@zhongj I've been using FreeBSD since 3.0 and I love it as a server OS, I've tried it a few times over the years as a desktop OS and could make it work but for my use Linux is the better option.
FreeBSD is cool. but I like gaming, and having more software choice on Linux. And FreeBSD has def worse hardware support. when I buy new hardware I always research if it works OOTB on Linux because not all things like printers, USB Bluetooth dongles work great or at all in Linux. I assume most does work tho. For most things i dont need to install any drivers or dependencies, most devices work pretty good with built in drivers in the kernel. Im not sure how audio production(music) and gaming works at all in FreeBSD. I assume its really bad in general. I'd consider FreeBSD if I'd set up some sort of small home server tho. But I think I'd prolly just install Debian and learn how to set that up since Linux is made to be a server. But the desktop experience is really fuckin amazing rn. very easy to use and install software. I go to the terminal 98% of the time mostly cause I feel cooler lol, plus its faster and more efficient for me
No mention of OpenBSD? 😔
Linux needs to make it possible for software devs to just publish one binary per CPU type (e.g. x86-64 vs ARM) without having to worry about distros, and device drivers need more support. And probably get Wayland vs X sorted too.
I think that Distro-specific stuff is mostly just packaging format
we need a very relabke and simple OS and schools using Linux, then it would work
I don't agree about your statement "Windows has been an absolute dominant for many years without any change"'. Yes, it's still dominant *on the desktop* (and not at all for most other purposes), but there has been a definite ongoing change. Its market share has been on a steady decline for many years now. And at some point, it *is* mechanically going to stop being dominant.
I'm not even sure there is a long-term future for Windows.
A very large number of people getting cheap computers today, especially for school, are getting Chromebooks. I wonder what the consequences of that will be in 5-10 years.
Thank you for your video talking about this stuff especially highlighting the privacy issues and the reality with Linux that it's not this complicated operating system like it was years ago, these days it's becoming easier to use and I have to admit it's becoming tiresome to try explain to so many people who are oblivious to this. We've reached a point where there needs to be more awareness that Linux isn't complicated anymore, I really hope more people make the switch to rebel against the privacy issues that will be coming in the near future with the new A.I. chips especially.
You mentioned statistics about OSs' usage. I won't challenge those numbers, but it's fair to put into perspective that it's only about desktop computers. Linux comes way on top otherwise if you consider the whole ecosystem of electronics, phones included.
I enjoyed the video. I agree with most of what you said. I will also emphasize that distros like Mint just work out of the box for everyday usage, and even gaming. Not 100% of games, but quite a lot actually. No need for command line until you have a specific need.
I just think the market will correct itself to what it should have been. Windows as the business-grade operating system, Linux for home and recreational use, and MacOS as the luxury/brand choice.
great video i am mac user for almost 20 years!macos + its have linux functions without linux desktops flaws!p.s for me linux/bds only for servers!
As of date, Linux installation (Except Arch & Gentoo) is as easy as if not easier than installing Windows.
It's literally just hitting "next" a bunch of times - simplicity itself!
I like your assessment of the state of each OS and tend to agree with your prediction (although I'm definitely biased lol). That said, what you say about privacy at 8:48 kind of misses the point, while also being quite illuminating. Privacy isn't just about not being targeted by hackers (although that's a nice bonus), but about not being swept up by the massive dragnet of mass surveillance. It's about governments, advertisers, and insurers not being able to track every little thing you do online, know more about you than you know about yourself, and use it to screw you over, whether now or later when they feel like changing the laws/ToS. However, I think your sentiment is one shared by most regular people; you have stuff to do and just want a computer that works, and I can't blame you for that. The only way for Linux to get mass adoption is for it to be simply better-and, in many ways, it is, but certain areas where it falls short are deal-breakers for too many people. That's when manufacturers can feel confident pre-installing Linux on their systems and the tables can really turn.
you were not showing anything here
You forgot AIX and FreeBSD/OpenBSD. Especially you see it a lot in Large Enterprises in Mainframes and Servers.
I'm watching this on my Microsoft Surface Laptop running Linux Mint. Microsoft can keep Win 11 and its spyware. So far, I haven't found a piece of software I cannot find a replacement for, except Grammarly, which doesn't support any of the Linux word processors. (It's probably out there, but I haven't found it yet.)
LanguageTool as a Alternative to Grammarly
@@nikichashadow Thanks! I'll look into it.
@@ericapelz260 hope it helps
We need Dolby atmos support on Linux. I decided to upgrade to some brand new, very high spec hardware and try out some Linux distros. I am happy with everything so far except for one thing…. My Dolby atmos speakers don’t seem to be supported and they don’t sound anywhere near how good they should sound. Which bothers me because I love music and watching movies. On Debian right now it sounds great except there’s no bass…
There's probably a tweak to fix it using a pulse audio plug-in or something. Googling and trying stuff is the way...
This sort of thing should really "just work" though.
Dolby needs to write some code for linux...
@@wrathofainzDolby atmos relies on closed source codecs that won't be on Linux anytime soon.
@@ericapelz260Yes
@grantschilb8019 Damn, I guess Dolby products are off the table.
I shed some (absolutely) proprietary tears for them...
There are alternatives to mainstream operating systems and they are all UNIX based, more or less: Linux, BSD, OpenIndiana (Open Solaris) and Haiku (still in Beta). The first two essentially run the internet. So if you believe that you can't use them that is by design by the owners of proprietary systems that have deep marketing budgets and tight industry links that keep you hooked to their ecosystem.
Gaming on Linux has come a long way over the last few years, it's 95% there if you ask me. It needs to get to the level, that my nan could easily game on Linux.
Once it's at that level, many will flock to Linux as people start to realize the windows is screenshotting your data and using AI to share that data with governments.
I am using all 3 operation systems too. In my job - teaching adult persons on economic skills - I use MacOS. Using the Mac eco-system with my mac mini and my macbook pro is very convenient. The mac hardware - built in loudspeakers and micros - is excellent. But when I will be retired and I would not need great hardware Linux will be my choice. The only thing I am missing in Linux is the lack of HDR10 support and the fact that there is no good OCR available. I use Windows only if special tools are needed. If you buy hardware you should always check if there are Linux drivers existing.
No good OCR? Is tessract not good enough for you? How about a gui for that with Frog. Frog can capture a part of your screen (say an image or a paused video) and OCR into whatever language you like: English, Japanese, Korean etc etc.
@@bobmcbob4399 I tried this. It´s far away from the capability of ABBY FineReader or Readiris
I switched to Linux, but don't forget about chromeOS Flex. If you use Google apps it's actually a good option.
I have an idea if some of yall are a programmer why not just come up with a custom operating system of your own and person can use Linux to do so an work your way up to your likeing
I'm still not sure if WSL is a good entrypoint for devs for linux or it keeps people from linux as windows with WSL fulfills the need of many.
The problem with Linux is also its strength. Its open source and theres a version for everyone who tries it. First party developers can make software for Winadds an Mactax knowing that the software will work on that OS but releasing A linux version is going to be a support nightmare. The kernel is the same but a distro may have quirks that would cause some software to glitch. Some desktop environments will cause software to act in different ways. I mean look at the whole x11 / Wayland saga. The problem is even half of linux users dont know whats in the background so they would phone say Adobe and say the software keeps crashing. Suppport person asks if they are using x11 or wayland and they wouldnt have a clue. It would boil down to the software makers to release a stable version for one Distro, using one Kernel and one DE. Then all the other Linux boys and girls would get mad.
With installing Linux the installation is not that difficult anymore with many distros. In fact some have the option of installing it alongside Windows. The real problem for Linux is, beyond some specialty online retailers and as an extra option on just a few sites, it doesn't come on most computers out of the box. The user has to purposely install it themselves. The typical user you describe in your video is typically going to the store to buy a computer - either a laptop or a desktop (often for gaming) and not thinking much about the OS that it comes with. If the topic comes up the buyer will often choose Windows because it is so common. Until you can go to the typical Walmart or Target and buy a computer with Linux pre-installed you are unlikely to see the percentage of Linux desktop users increase that quickly. The only exception right now are Chromebooks which use Chrome OS which is based on Linux.
1: People do not care about privacy whatsoever, if they did then they wouldn't be asking "why should software be open source" but rather "why shouldn't software be libre"
2: Linux isn't just secure because less people use it. Its secure because unlike Windows software isn't installed with a web browser. On Linux you have a dedicated package manager which connects to a software repository. Because of that updates are sent out quicker, its more secure, and its more stable.
3: Most Linux stereotypes about difficulty originated in the late 90s and people assume Linux hasn't changed. Also Linux has an incredibly high skill ceiling, you dont need to have skill but if you it can be fully utilized.
4: Linux will never become the most used operating system, computer manufacturers have no incentive to make installation easy and every reason to ship Windows by default. Its as simple as Microsoft has money and the Linux foundation has ingored the desktop market. Also keep in mind installing Linux is as easy as flashing an ISO to a USB stick, how much easier can it get?
But if someone was looking into your house windows and watching your house, then they would be very concerned. People are just not that bright.
You're a tad wrong that linux will never become the most used OS. It's used everywhere with IoT devices, phones, Point of Sales Terminals, aircraft, space station, power plant operations with a windows overlay, the list goes on and on. Linux just isn't popular on the desktop yet due there are very few manufactures who sell Linux installed computers. Linux isn't popular due to gaming companies not wanting to support the OS but that is changing as more and more of the market share moves to Linux Desktops in the future if they want to survive. You really should search about where Linux runs most of the world. Microsoft and Apple are pushing people towards Linux with their crap they are shoving down peoples faces. Valve did a lot of good coming out with the steam deck showing the game support that Linux can do as that's what's most important to a lot of people. People complain about Adobe and now look what Adobe is doing to there customers as I'm sure you heard by now and the interesting thing is Adobe run's on a Apple device which is just another Nix OS but they don't want to support the largest Nix OS which is any Linux Distro which can be done really easy.
Linux is by far the most used kernel in the world, as the previous commentator explained. In addition, GBU/Linux is also the OS used in the most systems in critical infrastructure as well as in th most critical parts of the critical infrastructure. It's also the backbone of the internet and even Microsoft migrated their whole infrastructure to Linux fue to higher efficiency, better performance, stringer security, more flexibility and higher scalability.
@@alicethegrinsecatz6011 The video was about the desktop OS market. Linux on desktop and even on smartphones is mostly just Google taking advantage of the open source nature of Linux through their proprietary OSs. Of course the Linux foundation, Suse, IBM, Amazon, Google, Microsoft and many others contribute tons of money towards enterprise and server grade Linux.
Yeah but i need a usb stick…… and 2 of them…… i wish my laptop had come with 2 usb sticks.
For ease of installation and use and keeping your workflows when switching from Windows, Fedora with KDE is very close.
But if you are into games a bit and open steam, you will see a lot of games, not playable. This will change as well, as steam is using Linux with their device. All in all, I don't think Linux will ever gain huge market share. Those statistics include Business as well and Windows is well understood and managed in that field.
As others said, if you can just install and run your Windows programs without jumping through hoops, maybe Linux will get somewhere in Business...
Why would you install Windows programs in Linux? Do you install Mac programs on your Windows machine, then complain when they don't work?
@@cyberbillp because of business applications? If you want to replace Windows in a business environment you might have to run special programs for that business.
There are only very few macOS programs that does not exist for Windows. Different use cases here.
The AI is NOT built into the hardware. What neural processing units do is simply accelerate a specific type of math function (matrix multiplication) that many AI algorithms use. A NPU is just an accelerator. The AI is still entirely software.
Think of it this way. A video card may have the ability to accelerate Direct X 12 games, but the video card does not contain Direct X 12. Direct X is still entirely in software.
You might find the Wikipedia article on AI Accelerators to be enlightening.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_accelerator
I'm on Windows 10 right now and obviously in 2025 when it get no more support I'm either gonna upgrade to Windows 11 and optimize with tools I use or move to Linux again
arch with cinnamon is best fight me
New hardware and laptops are just not tested enough and often overlooked, so it’s kind of a pain.
But on another note Linux and BSD is doing fine just remember what Android/iOS is based on.
Windows with WSL managed to fill up some of my needs, but the crap with windows is the political decision like edge/bing, start menu with ADs etc, rebooting all the time. Windows 11 is a downgrade when it comes to the taskbar
Linux is perfectly user-friendly until you run into something that doesn't work, which is like hitting a brick wall. If all I ever wanted to do was run a web browser it would be fine, but I like to play games. Sure, Proton is amazing, and about half of everything I try works, but the other half doesn't, and who's going to put up with that when the alternative is just to keep Windows?
Linux is vastly better than it has been in the past, but don't assume it's all going to be roses. I finally switched to Linux a few months ago, but I've had a whole range of issues, some small, some large. Currently one of my biggest annoyances is that I get screen tearing when watching videos on HDMI (which I do all the time since my main TV is connected to a Linux laptop). It makes video unwatchable on HDMI. It makes me ask, why? This has never once happened to me on Mac or Windows, why is something like this NOT fixed in Linux. Who would EVER want screen tearing, why is it not the default to get it fixed? When I search the web I see that this issue has persisted for over a decade! I've followed at least 10 different tutorials for a means to fix it, but nope, still broken.
Other issues are things like constantly being nagged to do something with a Key ring. I don't know or care about the key ring and/or permissions, but I have to be, because every time I start Linux I can't use the internet since the Key ring password dialog (which is buried under all other windows) is open and wanting me to enter a password. WHY??? Just let me choose to save the password and stay logged in, why force me (the user) into this idiocy? Again, Mac and Windows have never done this to me. So, yes, we should all fear and hate Microsoft and Apple for their privacy invading practices. However, don't forget, Linux has tons of rough edges that you might eventually get past, but you're going to waste a bunch of time and be asking yourself, why am I running into this stupid issue in an OS that's been around for 30+ years.
The keyring thing hit me, I used search, found the answer and fixed it in two minutes. It has to do with the password and auto login or something. Look it up. It was easy.
"Needing to run several commands to install Linux?"
Bro what? It's literally plug and play nowadays
I think someone told him to install arch and he looked at the arch wiki.
The problem is that most proprietary software and Hardware only runs on windows. There are no drivers for Linux and the software is not supported on linux.
It’s getting better, but in general you are right
@@DmitryLambertTech I can't find drivers for my MIDI gear nor for my film scanner. I have a bunch of electronic PCB design software and circuit simulators that require Windows. Not to mention Adobe stuff.
Define "most proprietary software and hardware". There are numerous examples of hardware exclusively running using Linux, especially in industry. Sure, some audio interfaces or DJ controllers don't run on Linux but it shouldn't be too hard to simply pick one that runs fine with Linux. Like anything else, the OS isn't the problem, the user is.
There's a much simpler reason why Windows is so much bigger than Linux: Windows is shipped with nearly every PC and the users don't know enough to install a new OS. If as many PCs would be sold with preinstalled Linux, most users would just use that.
That's definitely not my experience, most hardware seems fine with Linux, and only few programs don't run on Linux or don't have good alternatives
linux driver support is great actually, theres so much stuff baked into the kernel
I have used Linux on and off since 2010. It has gotten much more user friendly. I have a Windows 10 machine. Microsoft tells me Windows 11 will not run on my machine. It has one terabyte of Rom and 32 GB or Ram . The processer is an Intel I7. It is not the power of the machine but they cannot install their spyware on it. Well I just bought a System76 computer, not wanting to build another computer, done that many times before. It is a Linux machine. The old Windows 10 machine, I will install Mint on it and give it to my adult daughter who is not into computers as Dad. She has run Linux before and Mint is very user friendly. When Windows 10 is not supported many of those machines will be bought up and an easy Linux installed on it. Then sold cheap. The average Joe and Jane are going to find out Linux is easy to use to do the things they want to do on a computer. I think ending Windows 10 support is a major mistake for Microsoft.
You own your data and computer with Linux while Microsoft will CLAIM they own YOUR computer when they technically don't yeah I'm definitely leaving Windows as a whole and will continue gaming on Garuda Linux if you got a midranger and 1TB of SSD you should be good to go if you hate the theme you can change and manipulate it unlike Winblows.
WinBlows. i like that.
No love for BSD huh? 😁
forget these operations systems, because analogue will come back.
there are graphene CPUs and these are 140 times faster than the fastest ones now, but these are analog.
and yes, these have existed since 2015.
but these were stolen in 2017 in Belgium, but the CPU will be redesigned and prepared for the market.
there was also a super fast one
analogous os named ana os. this was extremely fast and super safe.
this is also in the hands of the thieves.
windows sux you have to download drivers everytime you add something new MACOS you just plug in device and use it
Amen to that . Don’t forget Windows corrupt DLL files out nowhere lol nightmares. Love macOS
I don't want that Recall crap on my computer, but I use Linux anyway. Windows users won't care anyway.
Half of the globe use linux because Android is linux. And yet if you ask most of the people that use it linux on desktop they'll say Android isn't real linux. That's because most of the people that use linux on desktop are programmers and coders. Linux is made for them. It's made for the people maintaining the internet. For them, an end user geared linux distro like android will no longer be linux because it will be to closed down. Even today, the main reason linux adoption has skyrocketed over the past 2 years is Valve's Steam Deck.
I understood that by default Recall is gonna be turn off.
Source? Somehow I really doubt it
@DmitryLambertTech Microsoft is likely to have the feature as just an option at first, but eventually have it enabled by default, then further integrate it into systems until it's difficult/impossible to turn off
@@redspear007 Yeah, I'm not happy neither. That feature should be an application separated as Xbox is, that user can uninstall it, instead to be hammered into the OS.
@@DmitryLambertTech It deleted my reply because I had a link in it, but it's a Windows Blog post titled "Update on the Recall preview feature for Copilot+ PCs" by Pavan Davuluri dated June 7, 2024
For now.
I don't want a Linux Hype. I'm a long term Linux user, but a Linux Hype where everyone have to _jump on the train before it starts,_ is not a good idea. It is more important for me that those that decide to go to Linux are properly guided to be comfortable with the OS. There is all time in the world to decide! (But always take a backup of your important data!) If it is factually better for them to keep going with Windows or MacOS, they should be respected for that. Secondly Linux isn't hard. It isn't revolutionizing, so there is no novelty kick - it is pleasant, and you can do all kinds of work with it, but you have to make an enlightened decision on what distribution is best for you and that is not too easy. In general you should not go with a popular distro, but with an old established distro. I hear that everybody is talking about "Pop OS". What is that!? I've heard about it, but when I was "young" it was Debian and Slackware, then later on Red Hat. I propose going with lubuntu or xubuntu that are quite similar to good old XP. "Pop OS" what is that? Some wannabe newbie distro? Ridiculous!
linux for me is eszyer than windows iuse fedora linux
Honestly I have no use for Windows after Linux gaming has improved.
There is only one option now for overall privacy, and it is also free from invasive and dangerous artificial intelligence: Linux. You could have reduced your video down to 15 seconds with that very fact.
I just keep a open mind I like Haiku OS, Freebsd and Linux desktops I just hate Microsoft and Apple
It's already happening. People are leaving Windows for Linux now. You can see the shift on forums and video comments. I went full Linux a month or two ago after years of wanting to do so. The only thing that kept me on Windows was some of the software I used. Once I made the switch I have no further need for Windows. I'm using Linux Mint on my main machine, but have been having fun with Arch and dwm.
A similar thing is said by conspiracy cracks, "more and more are waking up to ", but nothing really happens.
Linux idling at 4% for how long now ?
The rest i wishful thinking.
Maybe stop creating gazillions of distros, it's just confusing/hindering newcomers.
If you have a "central" repository to install stuff, why the endless fuzz about distro this and distro that ?
I switched too! Its being so good since I changed. Im currently using manjaro + kde plasma.
People in my social circles are now asking for me to come over and install linux now. I've done 6 machines and number 7 is in the wings. Seriously, it looks like a tidal wave.
Keep in mind that Linux was below 1% just a few years ago. If it keeps doubling every 1-2 years, Linux will be a major player in less than a decade
Yeah... the stats are all black...
I am not sure if that's to reflect Microsofts shenanigans with privacy or their shenanigans with filling their OS withn ads or what...
It would have been better to see losts and lots of cuddly penguins instead... :-)
Oh wait... bad editing skills might be the culprit as well... :-)
I think nobody gives any attention to privacy. That shift will probably happen because Gen Z does not know how to use a computer in any OS. They will choose the closest OS to their smartphones. Today, they are forced by their employers, but sometime in the future, they will have the choice. It will be a bad time for Windows. Not so bad for Linux, Chromebooks are a kind of Linux. If the person has some curiosity, they can do a lot of clever tricks on school Chromebooks using the terminal. I don’t mean that the young will learn how to use Linux, but copy the commands and make TikTok tutorials.
ChromeOS is the American cheese of Linux
they will choose the closest os to their smartphones. so android users wil choose linux?
@@pohodovejrybar5918 Maybe? Friendly distros with KDE Connect are very good with Android. Galaxy phones and Galaxy notebooks with Windows work great too, but it’s more specific. And I am very curious about how educational Chromebooks will affect those kids in the future, if they will have more familiarity with Google tools, Google Docs, Android apps built-in, etc.
I use NetBSD btw. Imagine using linux,windows, or macos
Bro HDR is about to drop in Linux by the end of the year. Its probably the last milestone for Linux.
Generally, every PC that comes my way eventually will run Linux. Why? Windows is temporary. Eventually, your hardware won't support upgrades or will run poorly.
It's common that people just will leave an old system running an old version of Windows and buy another system. However, that's just wasteful. It's fine to buy a new system but it's not fine to just let that prior investment sit and depreciate and frankly get little value from it anymore. Those old systems get a new life on Linux and last and last and last. It's recycling your own investments.
Every once in a while, somebody will just 'give' me an older system with some old busted version of Windows on it (thinking it's worthless). I just put linux on it and, in some cases, give them away and people use those systems for years (aka: that 'premature' death of a Windows system gets a new... and longer.... lease on life... and I'm helping my community with people who cannot afford replacing expensive systems every few years).
The old saying was "what Intel 'givith', Microsoft 'taketh away'". It's somewhat still true even with AMD. Windows is the worst thing to do to perfectly good hardware (it's not a marriage.... it's just a 'hookup' and Microsoft has no interest in keeping you around... but they'll sell you a new license on a new system.... as it's a 'situationship' at best and you're just one of Microsoft's side chicks).
Linux? Which Linux? Mint? Ubuntu? Cute Fish? Which GUI? KDE? Gnome? Plasma?
The Linux ecosystem is too fragmented. The only thing Linux is good at is reproducing itself.
Its all the same. Only diff is the package manager and default Desktop environments
90% from the windows users can switch now to Linux. There is literally no reason not to run Linux in 2024 unless you use the some very specific software professionally.
Why would I leave Windows at all? All my programs work including old versions compared to the Mac, backwards compatibility is not the strong point of the Mac. All third-party peripherals are pre-optimized for Windows, and how can you even imagine a computer without games? No and don't give me solutions to run games on Linux as long as the two companies AMD and NVIDIA still don't write drivers properly for Linux, I write from experience unfortunately.
Security problems exist in every operating system Apple in general has the most serious security problem! At the hardware level in Apple silicon processors, check the facts first. Privacy In what parallel world is there privacy when we use a corporation's product? Maybe Linux has more privacy because it is not yet connected to a corporation, but I think at some point in the future Linux will also be less private.
Bottom line: I use an operating system that gives me the most value and that's windows for better or for worse.
Linux is EASIER then Windows. Install Linux... Done.
Install Windows, install video drivers, install printers, install mouse and keyboard drivers. Windows forces an update, start over because it replaces those drivers with inferior ones. Remove bloatware, turn off garbage you don't need like gamebar. Monthly patch then comes along and undoes it all. Now not only is Windows an admin nightmare, now it's a security and privacy nightmare.
Just Install Linux and be happy.
"Optional means that it's going to be turned on"
no it doesn't, it just means it's optional. and it IS off by default, you should check the news about it before you make a video.
"most will never find a way to disable it"
it's literally in the settings, there's a whole page dedicated to it. it's the same as turning off wifi or bluetooth. if people can figure those out, they will figure this one out as well.
"it will be turned on after updates"
I've never experienced this in my 15+ years of using windows. I also highly doubt MS would risk doing that after all the backlash they've received for it. and even if it were to happen, there's a permanent indicator on the taskbar that recall is active so you can just turn it off again.
"in a few years linux will become more accessible, more user friendly"
no it won't mate, I mean technically maybe a few changes will happen, but nothing drastic. it's been 35 years. if consumers didn't find linux appealing for 35 years what makes you think they will all rush to it in the next few years? you even realized it yourself at the end, you said how many of those 80% even care about this and just want a computer that works. that's the thing - windows and mac look 100 times better than linux, and they feel more modern. especially with all these AI features. and sure, many don't like them, but it gives you the feeling that this is a living OS which they're trying to improve all the time. linux feels like it's stuck in the 90s. and obviously the compatibility - EVERYTHING (apart from a few apple programs) exists and works on windows, and it "just works" (as much as I hate that phrase). for the most common stuff you never have to dig through settings and configure stuff up, it's made for the dumb people to just press a button and it works.
and while privacy is important (even though I do not think any of this stuff violates your privacy), nobody sane is going to dump everything else just for privacy. the same way nobody sane is moving to the jungle because only there you can find privacy.
linux is an os for enthusiasts, and it will probably forever stay that. if you want to manually recompile the kernel and swap it on your os every time there's a new version, then linux is just right for you. but as that graph shows, there's only like less than 5% of the people who are interested in doing that and living in the jungle.
I dont think you've used Linux in recent years because its really easy now to manage software via GUI apps and whatnot. I do have problems gettin niche windows software to run through wine tho but I dont care really. Most of what i want to do just works great on Linux, and I tinker and can usually fix most problems that may arise.
Ngl windows is more of a pain then linux is… hmm oh i dunno windows just loves to remove every wifi driver in existence on my computer… oh no i cant get on the wifi to even download a freaking fix! IF THERE EVEN WAS A FIX! disappearing drivers here and there! why is my audio glitching and clicking? oh ill update the driver…. huh… nothing works.. lemme revert it back… oh it works! tomorrow it will break again.
Linux is for nerds; hate windows !! Apple ecosystem is the goat. Apple’s business model is privacy
i dint know my grandma is a nerd lol
😂😂😂he most be joking about Windows crap 🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡A Windows sucks long live Linux
As long as they shove it down peoples throats people will use it
U good?
I'm just gunna keep using Windows. Why? It simply runs all my apps and games and I have nothing to hide. Good luck with your "alternatives". There is no such thing as an alternative, for if it were a real choice, more people would be using it. Linux simply doesn't work. Pure and simple.
Linux is an alternative, not a drop in replacement. You would be correct in there being no drop in replacements but there are alternatives.
@@kittenzrulz2314 think of it as "alternative medicine" do you know what we call "alternative medicine" that works? Medicine. If Linux functioned, people would use it.
@@cgwworldministries83 Microsoft can afford to shove their software down peoples throats. How many people manually install Windows?
@@cgwworldministries83if Linux shipped with computers, people would usenit
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