@@moffsauce3012 I think that’s fine if you do it as a rule. Doing top 25 players with no goalies makes sense as it’s hard to differentiate. He’s doing it differently, not saying that no goalies deserve to be top 25.
Dude Draisitil had 32 in 16games WITH ONE FOOT. He should be top 3-5 on every list. Edit: on a playoff list I would put Draisitil above McDavid, so far.
@33RoyCorpPor Cheers brother! Also life time Avs fan. Yo for real! He had what 4 or 5 points in that crazy 8-7 game? And he could barely stand, let alone skate. I think he almost averaged 3pts a game in a series EDM got swept in.
@@nijaethompson7647 Nobody means dog in a literal sense when they say that. It's a euphemism for showing up in the playoffs when the pressure is highest.
Jesse is on a heater with his takes in this vid Draisaitl was way too low on everyones list Matthews too high. Regular season stats mean nothing, playoffs is a different beast. Really surprised Guentzel isnt on anyones list though I know he played with Crosby but hes a gamer in the playoffs saved a lot of playoff pools for me over the years
A stat that isn't talked about enough is that draisaitl is 3rd all time in playoff P/GP, with mcdavid, mackinnon, and rantanen all up there too. I dont get why people hate Jesse so much, I consistently agree with most of the things he says
@@mcj44 32 points in 16 games 2 years ago, 13 goals in 12 games last year... these are historic offensive performances and yet we always hear about Matthews being this great goalscorer and being above him but when it counts his goalscoring struggles to approach even just 0.5 GPG. Draisaitl actually gets his done, every time. It's not even comparable.
How can you not have Bob on the list? Dudes been part of the 2 biggest upsets in NHL history in the span of like 4 years. Columbus-Tampa and Panthers-Bruins
I'm not expecting hockey fans, commentators or youtubers to get the names of so many players right. But here's an easy way to remember one: it's not "hi-skanen" it's "hey-skanen".
Josi over Fox is crazy. Fox averages over a point per game in the playoffs, Josi averages half that. Adam Fox is much better at defense as well. Really doesn't make sense
The fact that Roope Hintz and Thomas Harley aren't here shows the Dallas disrespect. 2 of the best playoff players last year and Roope is still one of the best forwards just not scoring as much
Vassy at 23 is an awful take. 3 cups, his record in clinching games and after a loss are phenomenal. Hes 29 and has more playoff wins than Dominik Hasek. Theres no other goalie of his generation thats anywhere close to him in playoff wins
@warshawgameshd3432 Bobrovskys regular season last year was bad (3.01 GAA, .901) and he had been a big reason why they made it to the final. You can't count out goalies that have been top tier historically
He's also had a legendary team. For example, if Carey Price was on Tampa, he would also win probably even more cups. Remember that Price has only played with an 82+ point score ONCE in his entire career. Not one superstar
Bardown should lead the way on ALL hockey content. Let me fall in love with a local sledge hockey team iv never heard of before. I could see Bardown being its own TV channel with hockey 24/7. PS a YT channel with 24/7 "live" footage of diffrent hockey across he world would be an absolute banger to start.
What else does Dallas have to do to get some recognition? Hintz led last years playoffs in points. Heiskanen is a proven beast in the playoffs. Hell, Pavs has scored more playoff goals than Ovi and Sid. The stars continue to be overlooked
@warshawgameshd3432 I mean, if you don't have any stars on your team yet, obviously you want that caliber before you add Lehkonens. And Robertson hasn't got many seasons under his belt. But Robertson and Aho haven't busted series wide open or gone to a cup final at all, let alone by dragging their teams in by their own heroics. So yeah, I would rather have Lehkonen than half of the guys on these lists. He got the fucking CANADIENS to the cup final with several game tying, game winning and series winning goals. He only had 3 goals and they were all huge goals. He won a cup THE NEXT YEAR and again had several game tying, game winning and series winning goals. And now that he's on a real team, he's a PPG player in the playoffs, close to PPG in the season, and his goals are scored in big moments. There's guys throughout NHL history that you need on your team to make a final or win a cup. Fernando Pisani, Jared Stoll, Claude Lemieux, Martin Gelinas, Jiri Leitehen, Arturri Lekhonen, Dave Bolland, Anton Vermette, Justin Williams, Brendand Saad, Goodrow, Palat, etc. They end up being more important than much better players when it counts. They're bottom/mid 6 all season and turn into absolute heroes in the playoffs. You need em. I'd drop any Leaf except Matthews to fit 2-3 of those types on Toronto's roster. I'd rather have Carter Verhagee and Artturi Lehkonen on my team, in the playoffs, than a large number of the league's stars.
the jake guentzel disrespect is insaaane he's literally 11th in points per game in the playoffs among active players (and is exactly a point per game) and THIRD for goals per game among active players. one of the best playoff performers of all time
I think you guys should try making your dream playoff lineups 4 f lines 3 d lines 2 goalies. That would have so much variance based on how you guys want to have your hockey played.
Shoulda waited a DAY - so you can mention SIDNEY CROSBY … idk maybe he’s mentioned I’m posting this a couple minutes in - just watched the Pens momentarily get a playoff spot for a day …
1:08:51 Expanding to include cat breeds and other small animals and limiting total to 15 because i don't know enough about enough dog breeds to fairly rank more than 15 animals, let alone 25 dog breeds 1. Orange Tabby 2. Black American Shorthair 3. Maine Coon 4. Tuxedo Cat 5. Corgi 6. Beagle 7. Husky 8. Golden Retriever 9. Guinea Pig 10. Ferret 11. Rabbit 12. Hamster 13. Mouse 14. Gerbil 15. Chinchilla
You guys all had a lot of respect for Marchand which is fair given his long track record in the playoffs. In the same vein I would have also considered Pavelski. Also release the full Pet conversation
out of all the Canucks to include, leaving out Mr 50 saves, game 5, elimination game himself Thatcher "the snatcher" Demko didn't get a single nod is criminal also, robbed of the Vezina because of a late injury
Enough with this ranking nonsense and more quizzes and hockey focused podcasts! Beautys as always. Gotta get some love in. You are my guys after all...
45:39 Ovi was a beast in the playoffs, the caps were just chokers. He had 21 points in 14 games in 2009. Matthews best playoffs performance was 9 points in 7 games in 2022. 44 points in 50 playoffs games are not superstar numbers at all.
I’m with poc 100000% 😂. Kreider running into Carey Price was heartbreaking for them & their fans. Even I feel sympathy. Jesse is so right about Marner being 16 is toooo high. & everyone is too high on the leafs.
Roman Josi right now top 10. Absolutely my favorite player in NHL. Chicago are 8th in centimeters and 21th place in kilos in NHL. Size don't matter if you never use them. They drafted some big guys lately
Fox is top 15 player in the league. Easy. People always knock him down because of his size. But he’s probably the highest IQ defensemen in the league. He’s had 79 points this season after missing 10 games. That is just wild for a defensemen let alone to do it consistently. He’s still elevating every year.
Kreider I think will be dog in the playoffs this year. He’s quietly having a nearly 40 goal season and has really shown up as of late. Such an important player on the PP and PK and was the only forward that showed up for us last year in that atrocious series. The production from that first line of Zibanejad Kreider and Roslovic is gonna be the determining in the playoffs I feel.
There’s no question that you’d rather have Alex Pietrangelo than Adam Fox in the playoffs. The Blues don’t win the cup in 2019 without Pietrangelo and neither does VGK in 2023. He is a Pronger-like series-altering difference maker whereas Fox is branded as an offensive Dman and quarterback where the entire Rangers offense somehow fizzles when the Devils put Akira Schmid in net, who didn’t “goalie” anybody else. It is insane that happened to a Rangers team that was up 2-0, and sure you can blame Panarin and Zibanejad, but Adam Fox is as responsible for failing to do what he was expected to do and underperforming at the time he was supposed to play his best hockey. Why is there room on this list for any Leafs when they’ve gone 1-7 in series in the Matthews era? To me this is a list about which players get you playoff series wins above replacement and there isn’t a Leafs player who’s earned our trust in that regard, including Matthews who takes more money than anyone else to consistently lose in the playoffs. Winning the Conn Smythe means Marchessault was the best player in the playoffs last year. He was #1. He was +17 to McDavid’s -1, why then is McDavid so ubiquitously the guy you’d most want in the playoffs? Point-per-game stats typically win you individual awards including the Hart and the Norris, they also typically are what get players paid the biggest salaries, and then it’s those biggest salaries that prevent their teams from acquiring key depth players, defensive players and tough players that always seem so pivotal to deep runs. I wouldn’t expect Zach Hyman to enjoy the same freedom of crease benefits in the playoffs that he’s had and he’s a guy who tends to regress in the playoffs too. He was on the Leafs for plenty of those years they lost in the first round. He may have playoffs written all over him, but the playoffs are when he tends to run out of gas and get cross checked into submission. Don’t just pick the players at the top of the regular season scoring stats, pick the guys you think will win their teams playoff games they otherwise wouldn’t, the guys who you think might win a Conn Smythe. Then if they do, you end up looking really good for having them. Roope Hintz isn’t on anyone’s list, he had an incredible playoff last year. 6 more points than any other Dallas Star, he’s also a markedly better 2-way player than JRob. All that said, here’s what my list would be: 25. Sean Couturier 24. Drew Doughty 23. Ryan O’Reilly 22. Anze Kopitar 21. Thatcher Demko 20. Igor Shesterkin 19. Victor Hedman 18. Jaccob Slavin 17. Alex Pietrangelo 16. David Pastrnak 15. Nikita Kucherov 14. Leon Draisaitl 13. J.T. Miller 12. Connor McDavid 11. Roope Hintz 10. Connor Hellebuyck 9. Mikko Rantanen 8. Jonathan Marchessault 7. Sergei Bobrovsky 6. Miro Heiskanen 5. Nathan Mackinnon 4. Jack Eichel 3. Sebastian Aho 2. Cale Makar 1. Matthew Tkachuk
This is an acceptable list! Miro and Roope are so underrated. I feel like Wyatt may be more important this year in the playoffs based on his line this year
Rangers didn't get goalied at all, they were taking the easiest shots ever. They just couldn't figure out the Devils neutral zone trap, and had trouble building momentum. You are completely insane for just referencing that one playoff round when that was clearly on the coaching than anything, the team itself had the skill just not the mindset. The games they did have the right mindset they completely destroyed the Devils, and Akira Schmid as well in game 6. 2022 was a much greater example of how Adam Fox can perform in the playoffs, and same with Panarin as well.
Just the fact that you are discussing "At what point does Matthews have to show it in the playoffs?" while you all already have him ranked in your top ten PLAYOFF PERFORMERS is all the proof needed that this is not a playoff performer list...I don't know what the list actually is- but it is not what you claim it to be.
Bar down : let's make a top 25 playoffs players Marchessault : was over a point per game in 2 deep playoffs runs (finals, Stanley Cup) and won the Conn Smythe Bar down : nah he's not top 25, but Matthews is top 10 🥴 Here's an idea for next time : have a salary cap to manage and build your perfect playoffs roster where you pick from the teams who currently are in the playoffs, and laugh at who actually has Matthews in their line-up. Because we all know that your defense and your bottom 6 are critical in the playoffs. Remember the Coleman - Gourde - Goodrow line ?
Guys keep talking about doggs, but refuse to put The Dogg at #1. Jesse picked the only guy who's valid at #1 over MacKinnon. And even he underrated Nate Dogg.
I meannnnnnnn each to their own and had quite the good chuckle over this but in this reality that we're currently experiencing, if you think top 25 playoff players and include the likes of Matthews and Nylander in your top 30, you have got to be out of your mind. 🤣 like what?
Jesse clearly looked at past playoff success more than the rest of them. The Brayden Point disrespect was off the charts until his list.
William Nylander over Brayden Point is insaneeeeee hahahahaha
@@jordanhenri10 omg thats embarrassing
The guy did not include any goalies on his list though.....
@@moffsauce3012 I think that’s fine if you do it as a rule. Doing top 25 players with no goalies makes sense as it’s hard to differentiate. He’s doing it differently, not saying that no goalies deserve to be top 25.
@@jordanhenri10 Matthews over Nylander???
Dude Draisitil had 32 in 16games WITH ONE FOOT. He should be top 3-5 on every list.
Edit: on a playoff list I would put Draisitil above McDavid, so far.
Avs fan, 2022 series Drai just stood out, even more so obviously injured, was really impressed with him in playoffs
@33RoyCorpPor Cheers brother! Also life time Avs fan.
Yo for real! He had what 4 or 5 points in that crazy 8-7 game? And he could barely stand, let alone skate. I think he almost averaged 3pts a game in a series EDM got swept in.
Draisatl has the most points per playoff game among all active players.
its obvious you dont watch hockey. go watch golf buddy
@@penaldo38 Golf fucking sucks.
9 minutes in and Jesse’s ”he’s a dog” count is 20 and counting!! Love it 🐶
Dog per minute type player
He's factually incorrect because these are humans, not dogs.
What about work horses?
Someone planted the word or he bought a dog recently.
Word of the day: Thesaurus
@@nijaethompson7647 Nobody means dog in a literal sense when they say that. It's a euphemism for showing up in the playoffs when the pressure is highest.
Saying Matthews is better than drai or mackinnon is just insane.
Better than Draisaitl, easily, but better than MacKinnon? No way.
Jesse is on a heater with his takes in this vid Draisaitl was way too low on everyones list Matthews too high. Regular season stats mean nothing, playoffs is a different beast. Really surprised Guentzel isnt on anyones list though I know he played with Crosby but hes a gamer in the playoffs saved a lot of playoff pools for me over the years
Miro deserves sooo much more respect, he had one of the best postseasons by a defenseman in 2020 and still carries the Stars D
Having Matthews above Draisaitl, or even just being in the top 10, is indefensible.
A stat that isn't talked about enough is that draisaitl is 3rd all time in playoff P/GP, with mcdavid, mackinnon, and rantanen all up there too.
I dont get why people hate Jesse so much, I consistently agree with most of the things he says
@@mcj44 32 points in 16 games 2 years ago, 13 goals in 12 games last year... these are historic offensive performances and yet we always hear about Matthews being this great goalscorer and being above him but when it counts his goalscoring struggles to approach even just 0.5 GPG. Draisaitl actually gets his done, every time. It's not even comparable.
Not at all.
Matthews made the list at all?
Stop drinking kid 70 on your head
We gotta get a word count on how many times Jesse said DOG
Haha was just thinking this. 😂
87x😂
Not having Miro in your top 25 especially for playoffs is blasphemy
One dude put him in and a second
Retroactively put Miro in. But completely agree.
No Jake Guentzel on anyones list? He’s an amazing playoff performer imo
Average Carolina anti bias
Jake elevates his game come playoff time every year. Point per game in 58 career playoff games, How can he not be to 25?
Roope Hintz = elite playoff performer
Hintz and Heiskanen are top 15
Johnston after this year will be there too
@@JustinWillhoit🤡
1 Point in 5 games 💀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@grantsmith66258 points in 12 games and also in the WCF🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
How can you not have Bob on the list? Dudes been part of the 2 biggest upsets in NHL history in the span of like 4 years. Columbus-Tampa and Panthers-Bruins
Poc “I value defensemen” “I didn’t have Miro Heiskanen on my list” shocking lack of puck knowledge here
dallas consistently getting disrespected
We’ll show up this year 🔥
Dallas is trash
Need a Stars fan on TSN
Wtf are they talking about Matthews has ZERO business being anywhere CLOSE to this list.
I'm not expecting hockey fans, commentators or youtubers to get the names of so many players right. But here's an easy way to remember one: it's not "hi-skanen" it's "hey-skanen".
dang had no idea
@stedibear that reminds of how Steve Dangle pronounces Artemi Panarin as “Pan-R-in” and not “Pan-AIR-in”
Auston Matthews being in anyone's top 10 is pure delusion
the leon disrespect is still funny
Whenever I need the bardown squad most, a new video comes up on my feed 🙏
Watching this episode and listening to Corwin after Hellebuyck just let in 5+ in all 5 games against the Avs is insane...
POC’s list makes so much more sense in context to the video. I’d rather see fox in the first round in the corners that petrangelo.
Josi over Fox is crazy. Fox averages over a point per game in the playoffs, Josi averages half that. Adam Fox is much better at defense as well. Really doesn't make sense
Guentzel not being on anyone's list is kinda crazy, the dude is a beast come playoff time
You guys should do a follow up of Top 25 - NON Playoff Teams
The fact that Roope Hintz and Thomas Harley aren't here shows the Dallas disrespect. 2 of the best playoff players last year and Roope is still one of the best forwards just not scoring as much
Yeah but hints has been buns this year. Like not even a top 5 on his team
Vassy at 23 is an awful take. 3 cups, his record in clinching games and after a loss are phenomenal. Hes 29 and has more playoff wins than Dominik Hasek. Theres no other goalie of his generation thats anywhere close to him in playoff wins
Except he hasn't been that good this season.. Otherwise people wouldn't be saying the lightning are a lottery team with kucherov..
@@warshawgameshd3432he just got back surgery in the offseason😂. he needed to get get the rust off somehow
@warshawgameshd3432 Bobrovskys regular season last year was bad (3.01 GAA, .901) and he had been a big reason why they made it to the final. You can't count out goalies that have been top tier historically
He's also had a legendary team. For example, if Carey Price was on Tampa, he would also win probably even more cups. Remember that Price has only played with an 82+ point score ONCE in his entire career. Not one superstar
he has two cups…
The Draisaitl disrespect is crazy, he has the highest point per game in the playoffs out of all active players lol
Time for DZ to come back..
Where is he? Hopefully just time off and not permanently off the group?
Just working March Madness at the moment :) You'll see me during the playoffs!
@@danielzakrzewski.bardownmiss you Z!!
Jesse is the smartest hockey mind by far. Rest of them are just leaf fluffers
Bardown should lead the way on ALL hockey content. Let me fall in love with a local sledge hockey team iv never heard of before. I could see Bardown being its own TV channel with hockey 24/7.
PS a YT channel with 24/7 "live" footage of diffrent hockey across he world would be an absolute banger to start.
The Drai disrespect is funny, should be top 4-5 on every list
What else does Dallas have to do to get some recognition? Hintz led last years playoffs in points. Heiskanen is a proven beast in the playoffs. Hell, Pavs has scored more playoff goals than Ovi and Sid. The stars continue to be overlooked
They the play do the talking stars are easily best team in nhl
@@robertearls7655😂
Did I see that right. 1 had 1 Dallas Stars
No Lekhonen? All that guy does is score game tying, game winning and series winning goals in the playoffs.
Edit: No Verhagee as well. Interesting.
Brother your telling me your taking Lekhonen over Jason robertson or Sebastion Aho? Or players around that lvl?
Are you restarted
@warshawgameshd3432 I mean, if you don't have any stars on your team yet, obviously you want that caliber before you add Lehkonens. And Robertson hasn't got many seasons under his belt. But Robertson and Aho haven't busted series wide open or gone to a cup final at all, let alone by dragging their teams in by their own heroics. So yeah, I would rather have Lehkonen than half of the guys on these lists. He got the fucking CANADIENS to the cup final with several game tying, game winning and series winning goals. He only had 3 goals and they were all huge goals. He won a cup THE NEXT YEAR and again had several game tying, game winning and series winning goals. And now that he's on a real team, he's a PPG player in the playoffs, close to PPG in the season, and his goals are scored in big moments.
There's guys throughout NHL history that you need on your team to make a final or win a cup. Fernando Pisani, Jared Stoll, Claude Lemieux, Martin Gelinas, Jiri Leitehen, Arturri Lekhonen, Dave Bolland, Anton Vermette, Justin Williams, Brendand Saad, Goodrow, Palat, etc. They end up being more important than much better players when it counts. They're bottom/mid 6 all season and turn into absolute heroes in the playoffs. You need em. I'd drop any Leaf except Matthews to fit 2-3 of those types on Toronto's roster.
I'd rather have Carter Verhagee and Artturi Lehkonen on my team, in the playoffs, than a large number of the league's stars.
@@DSoka-eb8qtAre you a Leafs fan? Cause that's worse.
@thedankswordsmantm no im an oilers fan. No gm would ever take lehkonen over aho
the jake guentzel disrespect is insaaane he's literally 11th in points per game in the playoffs among active players (and is exactly a point per game) and THIRD for goals per game among active players. one of the best playoff performers of all time
You know it's playoffs when Matthews is falling down all over the ice completely unobstructed.
The fact that y’all haven’t done a BarDown quiz about rivalries is a crime.
I think you guys should try making your dream playoff lineups 4 f lines 3 d lines 2 goalies. That would have so much variance based on how you guys want to have your hockey played.
I’m so confused by this list. Is this supposed to be based on prior playoff success? Cause some of these guys have barely played in the playoffs.
The fact that vasy isn’t on everyone’s list is criminal
"the rat factor" "sort of rat mantra" LMAO
Elias Pettersson? On a list of top 25 playoff performers who had ONE run during a covid lockout year?
If Phil the Thrill signed with the Canucks, he’d easily be #1
Carter Verhaege lowkey snubbed but it's fair
Reigning Conn Smythe winner, 40 goal scorer, and on one list lol. “Not gonna get an honorable mention”, “not the top dog”?
Insanity.
Yall should rank playoff lines that would be nice
Also, roope hintz is an absolute animal in the playoffs and I expect it to stay the same for the boys cup run
Shoulda waited a DAY - so you can mention SIDNEY CROSBY … idk maybe he’s mentioned I’m posting this a couple minutes in - just watched the Pens momentarily get a playoff spot for a day …
I’m convinced people don’t actually watch Leon in the playoffs.. he’s ahead of mcdavid
It would be cool to see a flashback list, like a best playoff performers between 2005-15
roope hintz?
1:08:51
Expanding to include cat breeds and other small animals and limiting total to 15 because i don't know enough about enough dog breeds to fairly rank more than 15 animals, let alone 25 dog breeds
1. Orange Tabby
2. Black American Shorthair
3. Maine Coon
4. Tuxedo Cat
5. Corgi
6. Beagle
7. Husky
8. Golden Retriever
9. Guinea Pig
10. Ferret
11. Rabbit
12. Hamster
13. Mouse
14. Gerbil
15. Chinchilla
Did Demko retire or am I missing something?
You guys all had a lot of respect for Marchand which is fair given his long track record in the playoffs. In the same vein I would have also considered Pavelski.
Also release the full Pet conversation
Pavelski would be on the list when Robertson isn't even?
@@warshawgameshd3432yes
The placement of Barkov on these lists are ridiculous
Crazy that nobody had guentzel. Huge playoff force and has been absolutely insane with aho and jarvis since the trade
I can’t believe no one had guentzel. He always shows up in the playoffs
Thinking Matthews is the second best player in the league is actually insane.
barkov should be top 5
I love how jesse wore his own teams jersey for the video
Panarin has to be in the top 10! what he is doing is incredible ! Go rangers
Panarin has to be in the top 10! what he is doing is incredible
Panarin has to be in the top 10! what he is doing is incredible
Panarin has to be in the top 10! what he is doing is incredible
Wild draisaitl disrespect for a guy who’s first in playoff points/game in the league currently
Any statistical correlation between the caps recent success and playoff push to ovi saying “we have Conner mcmichal”
top 25 horses dogs and rats lets go boys
out of all the Canucks to include, leaving out Mr 50 saves, game 5, elimination game himself Thatcher "the snatcher" Demko didn't get a single nod is criminal
also, robbed of the Vezina because of a late injury
Enough with this ranking nonsense and more quizzes and hockey focused podcasts! Beautys as always. Gotta get some love in. You are my guys after all...
As a Rangers fan Devils are our #1 rivals. We have played more playoff series against the Devils than the Islanders recently.
Panarin has to be in the top 10! what he is doing is incredible
45:39 Ovi was a beast in the playoffs, the caps were just chokers. He had 21 points in 14 games in 2009. Matthews best playoffs performance was 9 points in 7 games in 2022. 44 points in 50 playoffs games are not superstar numbers at all.
I’m with poc 100000% 😂.
Kreider running into Carey Price was heartbreaking for them & their fans. Even I feel sympathy.
Jesse is so right about Marner being 16 is toooo high. & everyone is too high on the leafs.
No Sid? No Guentzel? sheeeeesh
100 assists, improving year by year, hardware, 2 cups.
“Bad all star game performance” puts him at 6. Lmao
My brothers play on the Special O Team NL !! Dope Jersey Jesse!
Jesse is like a child, he finds a word he heard a friend say recently and runs it into the ground, irritating everyone in the process.
Slavin is a monster in the playoffs and all year long
Point has been a beast in every playoff the disrespect is real
Roman Josi right now top 10.
Absolutely my favorite player in NHL.
Chicago are 8th in centimeters and 21th place in kilos in NHL.
Size don't matter if you never use them.
They drafted some big guys lately
Take a sip whenever a "dog" is mentioned lol. 5min in. Haaaammmmmeeerrreddd
Habs fan guy is 100% right about where he put Fox. Good player, really good player, but he deserves to be behind Josi and Pietrangelo for now.
Fox is top 15 player in the league. Easy. People always knock him down because of his size. But he’s probably the highest IQ defensemen in the league. He’s had 79 points this season after missing 10 games. That is just wild for a defensemen let alone to do it consistently. He’s still elevating every year.
Kreider I think will be dog in the playoffs this year. He’s quietly having a nearly 40 goal season and has really shown up as of late. Such an important player on the PP and PK and was the only forward that showed up for us last year in that atrocious series. The production from that first line of Zibanejad Kreider and Roslovic is gonna be the determining in the playoffs I feel.
Mattias Elkholm should be in the convo 😤
Absolutely
We need a pet tier list ASAP
Ok I’m a habs fan but I believe in the jets. Jesse, your team is winning and bringing the cup to Winnipeg
Genocide supporter got punched out 😂😂
Props to Jesse, his list is a perfect 10/10
there's no way you had no debate about Slafkovsky in the end, guy's been playing like a DOG for the last 50 games and proved Jessie soooo wrong😂
There’s no question that you’d rather have Alex Pietrangelo than Adam Fox in the playoffs. The Blues don’t win the cup in 2019 without Pietrangelo and neither does VGK in 2023. He is a Pronger-like series-altering difference maker whereas Fox is branded as an offensive Dman and quarterback where the entire Rangers offense somehow fizzles when the Devils put Akira Schmid in net, who didn’t “goalie” anybody else. It is insane that happened to a Rangers team that was up 2-0, and sure you can blame Panarin and Zibanejad, but Adam Fox is as responsible for failing to do what he was expected to do and underperforming at the time he was supposed to play his best hockey.
Why is there room on this list for any Leafs when they’ve gone 1-7 in series in the Matthews era? To me this is a list about which players get you playoff series wins above replacement and there isn’t a Leafs player who’s earned our trust in that regard, including Matthews who takes more money than anyone else to consistently lose in the playoffs.
Winning the Conn Smythe means Marchessault was the best player in the playoffs last year. He was #1. He was +17 to McDavid’s -1, why then is McDavid so ubiquitously the guy you’d most want in the playoffs? Point-per-game stats typically win you individual awards including the Hart and the Norris, they also typically are what get players paid the biggest salaries, and then it’s those biggest salaries that prevent their teams from acquiring key depth players, defensive players and tough players that always seem so pivotal to deep runs. I wouldn’t expect Zach Hyman to enjoy the same freedom of crease benefits in the playoffs that he’s had and he’s a guy who tends to regress in the playoffs too. He was on the Leafs for plenty of those years they lost in the first round. He may have playoffs written all over him, but the playoffs are when he tends to run out of gas and get cross checked into submission. Don’t just pick the players at the top of the regular season scoring stats, pick the guys you think will win their teams playoff games they otherwise wouldn’t, the guys who you think might win a Conn Smythe. Then if they do, you end up looking really good for having them.
Roope Hintz isn’t on anyone’s list, he had an incredible playoff last year. 6 more points than any other Dallas Star, he’s also a markedly better 2-way player than JRob.
All that said, here’s what my list would be:
25. Sean Couturier
24. Drew Doughty
23. Ryan O’Reilly
22. Anze Kopitar
21. Thatcher Demko
20. Igor Shesterkin
19. Victor Hedman
18. Jaccob Slavin
17. Alex Pietrangelo
16. David Pastrnak
15. Nikita Kucherov
14. Leon Draisaitl
13. J.T. Miller
12. Connor McDavid
11. Roope Hintz
10. Connor Hellebuyck
9. Mikko Rantanen
8. Jonathan Marchessault
7. Sergei Bobrovsky
6. Miro Heiskanen
5. Nathan Mackinnon
4. Jack Eichel
3. Sebastian Aho
2. Cale Makar
1. Matthew Tkachuk
This is an acceptable list! Miro and Roope are so underrated.
I feel like Wyatt may be more important this year in the playoffs based on his line this year
Rangers didn't get goalied at all, they were taking the easiest shots ever. They just couldn't figure out the Devils neutral zone trap, and had trouble building momentum. You are completely insane for just referencing that one playoff round when that was clearly on the coaching than anything, the team itself had the skill just not the mindset. The games they did have the right mindset they completely destroyed the Devils, and Akira Schmid as well in game 6. 2022 was a much greater example of how Adam Fox can perform in the playoffs, and same with Panarin as well.
This list is faded
Putting Hintz over Mcdavid is crazy and why is Aho number 3
edit: this list is crazy
This list is fucking terrible.
Fox doesn’t have to be that physical guy with lindgren as his d pair 😂
Why does Jesse have to take off his shirt every episode...
You are forgetting Crosby if they do make the playoffs
I don't get how none of them didn't add Crosby that's crazy to me
Luca consistently has the worst takes imaginable
SOMEONE TELL THEM ITS HAY-SKANEN. I know they’ve been told but refuse to say it correctly
Hay-skuh-nen
Just the fact that you are discussing "At what point does Matthews have to show it in the playoffs?" while you all already have him ranked in your top ten PLAYOFF PERFORMERS is all the proof needed that this is not a playoff performer list...I don't know what the list actually is- but it is not what you claim it to be.
How is this podcast not a Fundraiser for Toronto Feral Cat Coalition?
The islanders not being mentioned in the race is insane
miro too low on these lists, top 3 d man in the playoffs
Bar down : let's make a top 25 playoffs players
Marchessault : was over a point per game in 2 deep playoffs runs (finals, Stanley Cup) and won the Conn Smythe
Bar down : nah he's not top 25, but Matthews is top 10 🥴
Here's an idea for next time : have a salary cap to manage and build your perfect playoffs roster where you pick from the teams who currently are in the playoffs, and laugh at who actually has Matthews in their line-up. Because we all know that your defense and your bottom 6 are critical in the playoffs. Remember the Coleman - Gourde - Goodrow line ?
Guys keep talking about doggs, but refuse to put The Dogg at #1.
Jesse picked the only guy who's valid at #1 over MacKinnon. And even he underrated Nate Dogg.
It’s also wild to leave out one of the best snipers who’s also a damn leader in Steven stamkos
It’s probs cause his playoff stats aren’t super crazy
having robo on your list and not hintz or pavs is crazy
I wouldn't put a single Leaf on that list. Maybe you put Matthews 25th just because.
I meannnnnnnn each to their own and had quite the good chuckle over this but in this reality that we're currently experiencing, if you think top 25 playoff players and include the likes of Matthews and Nylander in your top 30, you have got to be out of your mind. 🤣 like what?