What would you say to someone who claims Pope Gregory the great prescripting purgatory is analogous to Joseph Smith inventing the canon of his own golden plates?
"Do this in remembrance of me" 1. Do what? "This" 2. What's "this"? Eating the bread and drinking the wine. 3. What does Jesus say the bread and the wine are? "His body and His blood"
So simple, i can't see how protestants not only go of course with the understanding, but how they would not admit to “following the many disciples” that walked away from Jesus when they could not agree with the literal understanding. Pride, perhaps.
@@siddywiddyb It's because before "Sola Scriptura" or "Sola Fide", it's "Catholicism is wrong". Imagine doing math insisting on PI being exactly 3. It won't work out and you'll need a lot of extras to make things kind of work.
I am the door - made out of wood I am the way - now He is tarmac The house, the sand and the rock - instructions for engineers and home owners The lamps and the oil - instructions for procurement The hidden treasure - Good luck finding Gods kingdom by digging in your garden Could tell you more, but need to drive to town now for classes how to sell and buy pearls...
The irony of him wearing a "sola fide" t-shirt and then saying "After a person dies, their eternal fate is sealed BASED ON HOW THEY LIVED THEIR LIFE whenever they were living."
Contradicting himself. Says one thing on his T-shirt and then states that, 'their fate is sealed based on how they lived their life whenever they were living'.
Did you catch that he paused just a little bit as he was saying it? Like he was aware of the ridiculousness of his belief system, if only for the briefest moment.
What is sad about people like Allen Parr is that they don’t have a public dialogue with other Catholics to discuss these issues. Instead, they stay in their echo chamber and beat up a strawman.
Unfortunately for people like Allen they make a living off stuff like this in so much there's no way they could afford to come out and admit spreading false doctrine. We all live in a echo chamber but I will never understand how people who claim to love Christ Jesus could attack thr oldest church who established the new testament, have traditions all the way down to the time of Jesus. It's madness to me
Of course Parr doesn't, he just shows ignorance of all the basic creed whenever talking about the Catholic Church, so sad to see him spreading lies about our faith
I grew up in a very strict Islamic household and converted to Catholicism. Truth be told, I find it exceptionally bizarre that Protestants and Catholics argue about which is the “true Christianity.” In the Middle East, Christians are the minority so whether you’re Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant, at baseline, we see each other as one. Of course there’s differences. But nobody cares. So few churches are left standing that we respect one another’s existence. I’ve never gotten into an argument about whose Christianity is “right” with an Arab. We’re mostly trading stories about other, less than accepting religions and talking about Jesus in whispers. But in the west - my golly - Protestants and Catholics argue like Muslims and Christians do in the Middle East. The first time a Protestant in the US ever told me I was a pagan, I said, “wait, what? Dude, I’m Christian just like you.” My husband had to debrief me on why western Protestants don’t see me as Christian, even though I’m Catholic. News to me! The odd thing is, it feels as though Protestants are telling us who we are, instead of, I dunno, listening to what we say? “You believe in idolatry.” No we don’t. Loving Mary and holding her in high regard isn’t idolatry. Is loving your mother, idolatry? “You’re pagan.” Umm. No we’re not. Do you even know the definition of a pagan? “You follow catechism as sacred scripture.” Incorrect. The Bible, and ONLY the Bible is Sacred Scripture. Catechism is academic literature. It’s a manual to help teach the doctrine. Is your car manual a car? Or is it a very informative book that teaches you how to drive your car to its maximum capacity? Protestants who insist on telling us who we are, I believe, are projecting that perhaps they don’t know who they are? I mean it’s rather odd to base your entire identity in opposition to someone else, isn’t it? Doesn’t that make you still part of the thing you’re opposing? I’m not a therapist - I’m simply suggesting that it seems rather odd to create one’s entire identity around opposing the existence of something because that is, quite literally, the definition of enmeshment.
I think the 'beef' we Catholics have with protestants is their prideful ignorance or worse yet, their insistent denial of clear teaching from 15 centuries. Plus, if one delves into the history of the protestant revolution, what comes out is powerhungry princes and preachers, senseless wars and the roots of many ills that persist today in the west. Let's pray for the conversion of the unbelievers.
the roman catholic church does not fully follow the bible. it has created many man-made doctrines and practices not found in the bible. it rejects Christ's death on the cross as being sufficient. the roman catholic church compares favorably with the pharisees. i see my original comment about 7 roman catholic truths has been deleted. the roman catholic church is a false church.
Not that odd when one considers that the shites and sunis have been slaughtering each other and any other Muslim denomination since it was invented...not to mention their constant waring on everyone else on the planet.
@Greg-oi7pb - that’s a good point!! The thing is, I was raised Sunni and I absolutely did not really know what a Shiite Muslim was because it just wasn’t taught. But Sunni Muslims talk about Christianity A LOT. At least the school and community I was raised in. Everything was framed as “this is what Islam believes - this is what Christians believe.” So having been raised as a Sunni Muslim - I was taught to debate Christians, and kind of ignore shiites? It’s hard to explain. But I was definitely suprised when I converted to Catholicism and was being told I was NOT Christian - not by Muslims - but by Protestants! “Et tu Bruté!”… was kind of how I felt because I was already getting SO much hate from the Muslims I grew up with. Seriously it was awful. I wish that on no one. So I felt kicked in the gut when some Protestants were telling me I was pagan. It felt rather harsh. Because the Muslims I grew up with were telling me the same thing. I was also obviously very sensitive at the time. Anyway, I don’t take it personally anymore. That was YEARS ago. Still, I would absolutely never refer to another Christian as “pagan” because it’s kind of rude. And also not true.
The portion on assurance of salvation is 100% accurate. In my life as a protestant, which is the vast majority of my life, I had constant fears along the lines of "what if my conversion wasn't genuine?", especially as I sinned. When converting to Catholicism this past winter (confirmed at Easter Vigil), I was often asked "how will you have assurance of your salvation, how will you have peace?". Since crossing the Tiber, I have never felt more assurance of my state with God than following confession. Hearing the words of the priest in persona Christi, "Your sins are forgiven, go in peace" is the assurance I had always been lacking in the protestant world.
This is my same experience converting to orthodoxy, instead of always worrying whether or not I was “truly” saved, the only thing I worry about now is if I have broken God’s heart. A Protestant objection is how we’ve made Christ as a “fearful judge”, but I was never more scared of God than when I was a Protestant. No assurance of true salvation, especially when I sinned and walked away from God. Since finding the truth I am no longer ruled by a fear of Hell or not being truly saved. Once saved always saved is a recipe for paranoia. Knowing that though I fall I have God as my Father welcoming back His prodigal is so much more assuring.
Also confirmed at this past Easter with the same experience! Did you watch Trent's video "Protestantism's Not So Simple Plan for Salvation"? I saw that last Summer when I first learned about Catholicism and it resonated with me fully
I can relate to this, back when I struggled with Masturbation it felt as if I was somehow never enough, that I was doomed to succumb to my flesh. If It weren't for confession, my scruples would have led to me renouncing the faith entirely. It felt so peaceful, knowing that even after failing uncountable times, that I could always find a guaranteed assurance, even If that state of grace didn't last long. It was as if I had the ability to restart my life again, with a fresh new beginning, every week.
I was banned from a 'Christian' discord server for posting this video in reply to someone posting Allen's original. Keep up your great ministry, Trent!
My wife and I have been on a search for a new church. The modern church continues to move closer to closer to culture and further and further away from the gospels. We want authenticity and tradition, and I’m thankful for these resources when it comes to learning about Catholic teachings.
I've been there last year when I was seeking which church is truer. All I can suggest you is that you seek truth itself and not just a good preacher. Of course I truly believe fullness of Christian truth is only within the Catholic Church, but it's your choice in the end. My suggestion is that you also try an Eastern Catholic church if you got one nearby.
@@glennlanham6309 What you're saying isn't true because there's only one Catholic Church and only one doctrine. If people say things contrary to doctrine, it's the people who are the problem, not the doctrine. Whereas with Protestants, doctrine is the problem.
@@glennlanham6309aka traditional. Grew up in what I found out is a liberal church and now attend a reverent one....quite different in reverence and piety
I was an altarboy in the 1960s, and have been a Catholic for many years. It is interesting to hear non- Catholics tell me what it is that I believe and then attack that. Thank you for defending the faith.
I was an altar boy also. When I read the bible I found out Christ nor the apostles never said mass. The bible also tells us there are no priests, cardinals, of popes in leadership position of His church.
Where in the Bible does Christ teach Sunday as a Holy Day??? #2--Where in the Bible does Christ teach Mary is a mediator/intercessor? #3--Where in the Bible did Christ change the Sabbath to Sunday??? #4--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary has gone/ will go to heaven? #5--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a mere man is head of His church??? #6--Where in the Bible is the title "pope" mentioned??? #7--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that those that die go right to heaven?? #8--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that mere men have to authority to change what God wrote??? #9--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Peter is a pope? #10--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we can talk to the dead? #11--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary will remain a virgin? #12--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that is/was sinless? #13--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that the Sabbath has been abolished? #14--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we must go through a church for our salvation? #15-Where in t he Bible did Christ teach that man has a right to change What God wrote and sanctified?? #16--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we must confess our sins to a priest? #17---Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Rome is where He will set up New Jerusalem? #18--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a mere man (Pope) is infallible? #19--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Peter is THE ROCK? #20--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that NO gentile needs to keep the Sabbath? #21--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we can worship angels? #22--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we are to bow to statues of Mary? #24--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we are to worship Mary? #25--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that anyone can add/take away HIS words? etc, etc. I ask for book, chapter and verse!! NO CATHOLIC will!!! Just a simple book, chapter and verse!! Why is that to much to ask??? ALL i get is :read that/this book, watch that/this video, talk to a priest, OR outright condemnation for even asking questions. I feel sorry for any future converts when NO Catholic will answer their questions!!!
@@sammygomes7381 quote---Talk to a priest?.. unquote Apparently you did NOT read all my comments. I was talking about Catholics!!! >>>quote-- Christ's church doesn't have a priest in a leadership position, nor a Cardinal, or pope.... unquote I have been reading the bible for over 40 years. I AM very aware of that!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 I understood your comment well and was responding to the reply Catholics give you to talk to a priest. The fail to understand all believers are members of the priesthood but there are only two biblical offices, elders and deacons (Acts 14:23; 1 Timothy 3:8-13),Since the word for “elders” is usually found in the plural in the New Testament, it seems that each church normally had a plurality of elders. The terms elder, bishop, and pastor are used interchangeably in Scripture.
FACTS: Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope. Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor. Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead. Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship. Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest" Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins. Christ NEVER taught salvation is through a church.
@@MarkelBeverley Where is the verse that says GOD RESTED on the first day of the week to make that day special? Where is the verse that says GOD BLESSED the first day of the week to make that day special? Where is the verse that says GOD SANCTIFIED the first day of the week to make that day special? Where is the verse that says GOD NAMED the first day of the week to make that day special? Where is the verse that says GOD DECLARED the first day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special? Book, chapter and verse ONLY from the Bible!! >>> #1--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Sunday is a Holy day? #2---Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Peter was named a Pope? #3--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary is a mediator/intercessor? #4---Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary will go/has gone to heaven? #5--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary will remain a virgin? #6--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary was sinless? #7--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday? #8--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a mere man wil be head of His church? #9--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that the dead can here us? #10--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that when we die, we go to heaven? #11--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a priest can forgive our sins? #12--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a church named Catholic is head of His church? #14--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a priest can forgive our sins? #15--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that our salvation is through a church? #16--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a church is the truth? #17--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that all writings are truth? #18--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that all men are truth tellers? #19--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we are to bow to a mere man? #20--Where in the Bible did Christ teach to pray to/with beads? #21--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary prayed to / with beads? Book, chapter and verse ONLY!!! AGAIN: BOOK, CHAPTER AND VERSE ONLY!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 1. *The Pope* Matt 16:18 "rock" is used as "Caphas" Is a masculine term not a term used to describe an object to mark a location. Peter/Rock/Petros?Cephas 2. *Mary's assumption* Revolution 12 3. *Intercessor* 1 Tim 2 :5 "ONE mediator" *doesn't mean* "ONLY mediator" The Greek word used here is "Heis" which means a few things (primary, first, only, abundantly, them, unity, another & some). Like the salutation "ciao" (means hello/bye) in the Italian language, the context will determine the definition. If 1 Tim 2:5 means "only" then 1 Tim 2:1 would contradict it. It means PRIMARY/ FIRST. Christ is the *Primary* mediator NOT only. We are all called to mediate and we do so when we pray for one another. Mary can pray for you and intercede on your behalf 4. *Mary is sinless* Mary was saved believe it or not. Salvation is not exclusive to the forgiveness of sins actually committed. Jude 24-25 5. *Perpetual virgin* Matt 1:25 The word "until" just says what happened till the time of Christ's birth NOT after. Unlike what our modern usage of the word would imply. Example: 2 Sam 6:23. "Michal the daughter of Saul had no children UNTIL the day of her passing". 6. *The Pope is the head of the church* on earth like the father is the HEAD of the home. 7. *Catholic church* in Antioch under St John a disciple Ignatius was ordained by Paul and appointed "ignatius of Antioch" by Peter at the end of the reign of Evodius. Before going to Rome, he wrote a letter of unity to Christians all around expounding on teachings and in a letter to the smyrnaeans, he referred to Christians as "Catholic assembly" (greek Katholikos/ universal) assembly. 8. *The Saints are alive in heaven* Where does the Bible teach that the mystical body of Christ is limited to earth? 9. *The d3ad* Deuteronomy 34:5, Moses was D3ad. And yet Jesus communicated with him and Elijah about the redemption. 10. *Sunday* the day of worship is the day of the sun. This is after the fulfillment of the mosaic law 11. *Sacrament of reconciliation* God "breathed" twice in the Bible both administering authority through the Holy sprit. He breathed upon the apostles and told the "YOU forgive them of their sins" John 20:23 This DOES NOT mean do not confession to your brethren. Be in communion with the Holy Catholic and Apostolic church. The Church left to us by God 2,000 years ago. It will broaden your understanding of scriptural and Spoken tradition of God which are BOTH the infallible authority of the church, as they can not contradict one another.
@@mitchellosmer1293 I already recked your heretical Christian purview in a previous comment section of another comment by debunking ALL of your claims IN ORDER. You want more?
Coming from a southern Baptist background, I had no knowledge of "church history." Then I started to wonder what was the first church like? What was first apostle's church like? What was it like to seat with Jesus and listening to his teachings? I did not know Jesus in the southern Baptist church. This lead me to the Catholic Church and church history. I hope to join the true church one day.
I converted last year and now attend the Traditional Latin Mass with my wife and children. It is a huge blessing to be in the Church that stretches back to the Apostles. Now when I saw the Apostle's Creed, I mean all of it! One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. You won't regret it, my friend.
quote---What was it like to seat with Jesus and listening to his teachings.. unquote QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary is a mediator. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary will go to heaven. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary is every ones mother. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Sunday is a holy day QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught .a mere man is head of His church. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary will remain a virgin. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary is never sinned. QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Peter was named a pope. .etc, etc
As I am protestant, I'm usually an affiliate with the Gavin Ortlund Mafia, but I did really like the points you made here. I believe I actually agree with your wording more than that of Parr's in a number of areas. I appreciate that you make it clear not to treat all Protestants the same since it is a rather vast spectrum of belief. Thank you for being so charitable, Mr. Horn! Have a very blessed day as well!
I pray you’ll come to your true home - I’m a convert myself and I assure you, Protestants are missing an ocean of beauty and a depth to their faith that they don’t know is missing. The sacraments are so important and powerful, too. Please don’t hesitate. God bless you.
@@erin6083 My dear friend, I sincerely appreciate your care for me despite our disagreements. I never want to take anything lightly that I should have pursued more closely and that most definitely includes the sacraments and tradition of Christianity. I wish you the best and pray that God blesses you as well.
Sanhedrin pt 2 arrived. Congrats, you will be the recipients of Matthew 7:21-23. You will proclaim you “kept the church” “performed miracles” and Christ will turn you away cause you lost the message, again. Just like the Jews did first go again, the second generation of those Jews is showing itself
@@jtbasener1810 That was so kind and beautifully said. Thank you. Truly, I pray for God to bless you and for the Holy Spirit to lead you to the Church if that is God’s will for you. Regardless, thank you again.
Raised as the daughter of a Protestant Evangelical pastor, I grew up deeply immersed in faith through a non denominational church (that felt eerily close to a denomination to me). My mother, a women’s teacher, embodied a profound spirituality that remained unwavering until her last breath. When she passed away, it felt as though a part of my own faith died with her. I longed for the deep, authentic connection she had with her beliefs. Although she was raised Catholic, she later converted to Protestantism, describing it as being 'born again.' Her family's history is deeply rooted in the Catholic Church, with many priests and nuns. Only now am I coming to the realization that I misunderstood Catholicism and its depth of faith. I am apprehensive about exploring this newfound interest, fearing it could alter the dynamics within my family and make me feel as though I am betraying my mother’s memory. Is there someone in the Church who can speak with Protestants who are curious about Catholicism? For context, my daughter attends a Catholic school, so I attend Mass weekly but cannot partake in the Eucharist. My husband, who was also raised Catholic, is now returning to his faith.
You could attend a parish's RCIA/OCIA informational nights. This doesnt obligate you to join the church, but can be an opportunity for discernment. Also, you can search for Called to Communion radio/podcast by Dr. David Anders. Both hosts are former protestant converts to the faith, and this particular EWTN Catholic Radio program is mainly geared to give non-catholics an opportunity to have their questions about why & what the church actually teaches.
"I even I am YHWH beside ME there is NO SAVIOR". Isaiah 43:11. "Put not your TRUST in Princes nor the SON OF MAN in whom there is NO SALVATION" psalm 146:3 --The virgin daughter of Zion that travails in childbirth with her firstborn is clearly defined throughout the OT and the is not a woman named Mary and God's firstborn EPHRAIM as he himself boldly declared. The problem is people don't read nor study the OT therefore they have been misled by 1900 years of Cath. false doctrines. And have misunderstood the allegory of the gospel story. All doctrines of the Cath. And Protestant church are false. There is no trinity. God is ONE all by himself and there is NO OTHER. Isaiah 45:5-7. No TRUE Messiah would EVER claim to be God Almighty and there was never a virgin birth. Pure paganism of Mystery Babylon that we were all warned 2k years ago would come to deceive us all. And it did exactly when Daniel prophecied. Thru R*O*M*E. The true saints are of a little flock. I pray you pick up a lexicon and read the OT before you try to comprehend the NT. The 1st commandment means what it says in Hebrew. It never changed. Blessings to you. The TRUTH will set you truly free!
Allen Parr said the early Church didn't teach transubstantiation. Tell me you haven't read early Christian writings (i.e., Church Fathers) without telling me you haven't read early Christian writings.
There were four views of the Eucharist in the early church. In his magnum opus, History of the Christian Church, historian Philip Schaff (Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Volume 2, [Hendrickson Publishers, 2010], pp. 241-245; Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Volume 3, [Hendrickson Publishers, 2010], pp. 494-500) documents the four views the early church held in regards to the way in which Christ was associated with the bread and wine. You had the (1) mystical view of Ignatius, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus and Cyril of Jerusalem which said the body and blood of Jesus are mystically in union with the elements leading to a sort of repetition of the incarnation, though no change in substance actually takes place as in later Romanism; (2) the symbolic view of Tertullian, Cyprian, Eusebius, Gregory Nazianzen, Macarius the Elder, Theodoret, Augustine and Gelasius which said the Eucharist symbolizes the body and blood of Jesus and is a commemoration, not Rome’s literalistic transubstantiation; (3) the allegorical or spiritual view of Clement of Alexandria, Origen and Athanasius which said the believer receives the spiritual but not physical blood and life of Jesus at Mass; and (4) the literalistic view of Hilary, Ambrose and Gaudentius which affirmed the bread and wine as being the literal transformed body and blood of Jesus which is basically in line with the modern Roman Catholic system. The Roman view is in the minority, while the symbolic and mystical views seem to be the most primitive and popular.”
@@Justas399 You can also find it in the writings to Emperor Marcus Aurelius regarding the early church and eating of the flesh of Jesus. Early Romans called Christ believers in the Eucharist cannibals but the letter to Marcus explained, they don't eat people, they eat the living Jesus spiritually that has transformed into living bread.
This is all great information but let’s not forget all the early church fathers disagreed on seperate issues but the important thing to remember is What the church teaches.
I’ve always found it interesting how some Protestants go after Catholic beliefs and teachings. Yet never attack Orthodox views who have like 90% of the same views as us… (saints, Theotokos, etc)
It's a american protestant thing to go after catholics. And because they're americans, they don't even know what orthodoxy is. I live in Switzerland and catholics and protestant go hand in hand with each other. you often have pastor preaching in catholic churches or catholic priest preaching in protestant churches... or holding together a mass. But here in Switzerland the protestant or more or less "homogen"... here you have the "protestant church" and not 1000 variations of protestant churches.
The difference in tone is very clear. Most Protestant apologists I've watched use really high tone, loud voice, quick tempo just to "dominate" the audience, and most Catholic apologists I've watched use pretty calm, normal voice to speak just like giving the message, to need to "pressure". The opposition in this video are day and night. For me, I prefer the more peaceful voice (plus the message).
Even here in the Philippines, most Protestants debaters are shouting by preaching instead of answering, they jumped in different issues if they are cornered and returned again if question forgotten.. they shout! Shout! facing the audience instead their opponent.. hand signaling to the audience shouting hearsay outside the topic... Catholic is pagan bla bla bla that not stick in one topic... Most of them are barbarian attitude..
@@TheCounselofTrentit does. You are being spiritually sold a delusion. They don’t and can’t intercede for you. Nobody. A righteous person is alive. You all keep thinking dead people can hear. It’s a lie. Deception. Notice it’s catholic believe not what the Bible says. Sad you all put a church before God word.
As a Protestant, I’m so sorry that your teachings were treated with so little care and education. Specifically, transubstantiation, Communion or The Eucharist is so amazing and is the tangible grace of God! As I watched I realized how much evangelicals do not understand the omnipresence of God and how he is amble move outside of time.
Look, I didn't either when I was an atheist & then an evangelical. They don't encourage sincere inquiry. They want to hand you the answer with no effort involved. No one gets anything worthwhile that way, except the gift of redemption which still requires our acceptance for salvation. 😁🌹🙏
I love how he quotes protestants to put them up against other protestants. They both go by sola scriptura and both claim to interpret the scriptures with the Holy Spirit yet contradict each other. Who do we listen to? It's as if he is showing the protestants that 1. another protestant refutes their position, 2. the division in protestantism and 3. no authority to say who is right or wrong in protestantism.
It’s funny too because the Church has dealt with, clarified and taught all of this throughout the centuries since the apostolic age. It’s like there’s a mass amnesia
That’s almost exactly what it is. Many evangelicals completely forget the thousand years before Martin Luther, and some done even care about the reformation denominations and are less traditional with the ted talk churches
Jesus clearly said when a sinner repents, the angels celebrate in heaven. If the angels are not rooting for the sinner to repent, why all the celebration then?
Im subbed to Mr. Par because up until this easter I was protestant, I saw this video in my sub feed and thought "well this is heresy... can't wait for trents video on it." thank you Mr Horn for your continued defense of the faith. :)
Praise to God! I had the same experience with Mike Winger. Was also confirmed at Easter this year and get Mike's videos in my feed only to roll my eyes every time he mentions Catholicism
This guy is on the same level as Ray Comfort and Mike Gendron. He has no interest in a dialogue with any Catholic apologist. He doesn't want to explore truth. He wants to feel good about his spirituality. Really old, tired arguments that are easily refuted.
They need to justify their belief by trying to knock down Catholicism. No matter how emphatically people deny the church their conscience troubles them, deep down they know better.
@@MeanBeanComedy I saw a video of a Lutheran pastor defending infant baptism against Mike Gendron and you could tell how appalled he was at Mike’s out of control hubris. Mike actually said “anyone who defends infant baptism clearly hasn’t thought about it very deeply” it was so ridiculous that it still makes me laugh. The pastor replied with “sooo people like Martin Luther didn’t think about this very deeply.” It was golden.
Makes me sad. Trent and Jimmy are some of my favorite Christian apologists (period) and I'm a protestant. To not have dialogue and glean insight from such great minds is a terrible disservice.
My whole life I never felt comfortable in my protestant belief. Since I converted to Catholicism, I can't stand even listening to them anymore and their weirdly enthusiastic tone while flat out lying.
Thank you very much brother (and my best Catholic Apologist) Trent H. for this very important and informative content. Counsel of Trent Podcast is one of my favorite Catholic RUclips Channels including Bryan Mercier @ Catholic Truth, Joe H. @ Shameless Popery Podcast, Matt @ Pints with Aquinas, Jimmy Akin @ Mysterious World, @ Voice of Reason, Michael @ Reason and Theology etc...... Continue to defend, evangelize, and preach the faith, doctrines and teachings of the One True Catholic & Apostolic Church. God bless you and your ministry. Greetings from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬.
@@peterlee6148Sure, but in the Protestant world it’s still a minority position. It’s probably only in the Protestant evangelical world that it’s a majority position
@@PopelessCatholic Anabaptists, Anglicans, Lutherans, Amish, Huttites, Mennonites, Adventists, Calvinists, Puritains, Methodists, Pentecostals, Baptists, Charismatics, Pietists, Plymouth Brethren, Irvingists, and Evangelicals. These are the main traditions that I know of and I have a feeling I still missed some. There might be some overlap. This isn't even including non-trinitarian denominations. Or the splits in doctrine within these traditions. This is more than just a small handful.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, Trent, for making this video! Allen's video irked my soul. I was talking to my phone the entire time, refuting his claims. I thought I was going to have to break my social media silence to make a video refuting his outrageous claims. Bravo, Trent. Bravo.
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope. Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor. Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead. Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship. Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest" Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins. NO Catholic can quote the BIBLE to prove otherwise!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 firstly, such things ARE in the Bible, point in fact. Have you polled all 1.2 BILLION Catholics to see what we can and can't do?? Some of us can use the COMPLETE Bible, the one NOT BUTCHERED by Lutherfer, to support these doctrines. However, we don't hold to sola scriptura, itself unbiblical, and it would be bad faith to demand that we do so. So I'm not going to. Nyah. I won't even ask where, in the Bible, does it say that the Bible is the sole infallible rule of faith. I won't point out any of the glaring inconsistencies in Protestant belief. I will only wish you well and pray that your eyes are opened one day, as mine were. Be blessed.
@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla quote----Copy pasting this everywhere wont make a point, you only make yourself for a clown... unquote And that commemnt makes you arrogant!!!! Apparently you belive you are SO important that I SHOULD type out every word JUST for you!!!! Nope!! NOT going to happen!!! Btw--Arrogance is a sin!!!! But you still CAN NOT debunk my FACTS!!!! That imples you that you CAN NOT!!! And that means MY FACTS are TRUE!!!! So, I will add another pont to the number of Catholics (and otherrs) that refuse to debunk the facts!!! Now up to 385. And you are another that will NOT obey Peter!!!
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope. Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor. Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead. Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship. Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest" Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
I think the main problem I have with Parr's arguments is they frequently assert "I don't think... ." He consistently places his own opinions as if it were an authority in of itself, there seems to be a lack of any true humility.
as a (soon to be) Lutheran, it annoys me so much when people like Allen Parr make Protestantism out to be low church, non sacramental, and osas. i would rather go to a Catholic church than a Protestant low church because even though i disagree with Catholics on points about justification (which isn't as grave as a difference as people make it out to be) or the treasury of merit, at least Catholics realize the importance of the sacraments and that we must continue in the faith. and Trent saying that "Only God can get me to heaven but you and I can certainly get ourselves to hell." seems very similar to the Lutheran view which would be that we don't preserve ourselves in the faith, God the Holy Spirit does, but we can also still resist God's grace which is a reality we should acknowledge as possible.
I appreciate your thoughts. I agree, there are certainly meaningful differences between us as Catholics and Lutherans, but you are right about this issue. We as Catholics have to be careful not to say "Protestants believe [X]" as if all Protestants are one and the same, but it is also all too common for some Protestants to say "Catholics are wrong because they believe [X]" and not realize that they are actually denying a common or even majority held belief/practice that other Protestants affirm as well.
@@FleurPillager please explain what the Catholic Church has made up? If you are a Bible alone “sola scriptura” Protestant, then do you realize how much of YOUR beliefs are made up? Protestantism is a man-made gnostic religion…with a bit of Jesus added in. Why did the Protestants REMOVE 7 books of the Bible? Do you know anything about Martin Luther and what a crass, immoral and evil man he was?
@@FleurPillager and please, feel free to research before posting ridiculous rumors about Catholicism. Each one of your claims have been entirely debunked and clarified. But you’d have to actually take the time to go research those claims on your own. It seems though, that Protestants would rather spend that time posting insults and attacks instead.
I really wonder why Lutherans like yourself don't convert. Justification was a huge deal for Luther, but it was built on a lot of misunderstandings and talking past each other. The same thing with the Eucharist. Luther never responded to Aquinas' articulation Having flipped from Calvinism to Catholicism, Lutheranism seems like an out-of-date middle step
I applaud Trent Horn for his loving patience to respond to such weak and faulty arguments. As a manager I often fail to show so much kindness to such poor reasoning and research. A convert from Pentecostalism to the Catholic Church 😂
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope. Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor. Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead. Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship. Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest" Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
@@mitchellosmer1293 Yet another prot that doesn't understand why Sola Scriptura falls flat. Christ also never taught that abortion is wrong or homosexuality. That doesn't make them okay. Very low-IQ attempt at making a point. Also, he did tell the Apostles he gave them the ability to forgive sins, and to confess our sins to those in the Church, which even you should be able to do the math on.
As a Protestant, I can safely say that it is a good idea to ignore Allen Parr a good majority of the time. 🤷 And also, thanks to my Catholic brethren for standing so doctrinally strong on the Incarnation. I ❤️ you forever for that. 👑
@@AbstractMindsThinkAlike the heart is deceitful above all things; I wouldn't trust it. I love Catholics and I love Protestants as well as human beings made in God's Image of every custom, tribe, and tongue, which is not to say I agree with the areas of falsehood, misunderstanding, or error of fallible humans. Allen Parr is great in many respects, and some of his content is helpful for spiritual growth in Christ. A lot of it, unfortunately, is full of error. Stay in the Word of God and in prayer to discern. And no, I didn't say that Catholics were perfect humans without error themselves. None of us are. Which is why we need a Savior. Also, no one can like my comments, ever....lol I'll be JUST FINE. my contentment is found in God alone. 🤷. Blessings, ❤️
@@AbstractMindsThinkAlike "Just because you have different beliefs than someone else doesn't mean that person is wrong." OK. That applies to Catholics, then. And it applies to me and you should follow your own advice. Maybe I'm not wrong. "Don't call someone out as wrong just because they don't fit your docturnal (doctrinal) beliefs." OK. Tell that to Parr, and follow that advice yourself and stop calling me out as wrong just because I'm not the exact Protestant that you are. Anyway, lol, lest this sound like an angry response...it isn't. Just asking for consistency and to do yourself what you ask me to do. God bless you! ❤️ Have an awesome day. 🔥
@@bethezebraboy I dont care if you think your protestant, after that response on that guy, your catholic now, we claimed you, its over Lil bro see you sunday
Respect to you my friend. As a Catholic, I recognize that sadly, the majority of Catholics are either by name or not really involved deeply or practicing the true, complete and incredible deep faith we have. When I see Catholics committed and really knowing their faith as Trend, this is what I expect to be as a Catholic. Let's pray to have one day all Cristians under one and the same Church. Let's have the Holly Spirit guide us. Amen.
Thank you Trent for pointing out the many blind spots in Protestantism. It’s a little wild that while you’re explaining Catholic teaching and correcting Parr’s misunderstandings, you also have to correct his own views of Protestantism! Thanks for your good and careful work brother.
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope. Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor. Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead. Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship. Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest" Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
@@mitchellosmer1293"And I tell you, you are Peter,[a] and on this rock[b] I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it." What does this mean?
@@josephvictory9536 quote----And I tell you, you are Peter,[a] and on this rock[b] I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it."... unquote You have time to quote that to me, but NO time to do any research ONLINE!!!! Let's read the WHOLE story i Matt 16:13-20 New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition Matt 16:13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is? v 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, but others Elijah, and still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.” v 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am? v 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah,[a] the Son of the living God.” v 17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father in heaven. THAT VERSE is one of the MOST important!!!! A revelation from GOD to Peter that Jesus IS the MESSIAH!!! v 18 And I tell you, you are Peter,[b] and on this rock (Jesus) I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it . First. when does hell have gates?? Keep the dead in or out? That verse means NOT even Jesus' death will prevent His word and HIS church (Christianity) from growing. v 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” ------------Jesus gave Peter “the keys of the kingdom of heaven,” not the keys to heaven.1 A key was a badge of authority ( Luke 11:52 ), and then as now was used to open doors. Peter used the keys Christ gave him to open the door to the Jews on the Day of Pentecost ( Acts 2 ), to the Samaritans after the preaching of Philip ( Acts 8:14-17 ), and to the Gentiles after the Lord had sent him a vision and an appeal from Cornelius ( Acts 10 ). >>>>>>>>> Catholic Encyclopedia: The Pope: "The expressions binding and loosing here employed are derived from the current terminology of the Rabbinic schools. A doctor who declared a thing to be prohibited by the law was said to bind, for thereby he imposed an obligation on the conscience. He who declared it to be lawful was said to loose." >>AND VERSE 20 Then he sternly ordered the disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah. QUOTED from: New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition Who is the Rock? -------1 Corinthians 10:4 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. Christ!! NOT Peter!!! -----1 Peter 2:4 4 As you come to him, the living Stone-rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him- (was Peter rejected by humans????) ------1 Samuel 2:2 2 “There is no one holy like the LORD; there is no one besides you; there is no Rock like our God. ----Deuteronomy 32:4 4 He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he. (were Peter's works perfect and just?? ------Deuteronomy 32:18 18 You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgot the God who gave you birth. -----Psalms 18:2 2 The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold. ---Psalms 144:1 1 Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle. (There are 10 verse by Davis like those). -----Either Jesus/God is the Rock, or all the people that wrote those verse are liars!!!!!
@mitchellosmer1293 none of what you said refutes the obvious interpretation of christs own words. "And I tell you, you are Peter,[a] and on this rock[b] I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it." It is always telling when people have to do backflips to explain away the obvious. Again what is Jesus telling Peter. Put it into a normal English sentence. Let me give you an example: "Peter you are the head of my church, and hell will not prevail ever"
@@josephvictory9536 Why did you mess with the English spelling of Petros? That is interesting you did that. IN the actual Greek that Matthew wrote, Peter is petros (which is little rock) and on THIS PETRA (BIG ROCK) Jesus will build HIS Church. Matthew makes a clear distinction here. The PETRA , the actual foundation is not in a human Peter, but the TRUTH of the Jesus Christ. That HE IS THE SON OF GOD The Messiah. that Peter recognized a few verses earlier. That is the PETRA the foundation. Not little petros. If Jesus meant Peter would be it, He would have just said, You are Petros and ON YOU I shall build the Church. Why use the term 'on this' if Jesus referred to Peter? Jesus wouldn't. There are two words as the meaning are clearly different. petros and PRETRA. >>> The New Testament offers evidence that, even if Peter had somehow made it to Rome, he did not stay long in the city before he died. The apostle Paul wrote the book of Romans in the winter of 57 A.D. The book does not mention him at all, which would be an incredible oversight if he had lived in and evangelized the city. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul stated in Galatians chapter two that he was an apostle to the uncircumcised (Gentiles - and the citizens of Rome were almost entirely of this group) and Peter was the apostle to the circumcised (Jews) He goes further than this and states in verse nine, "James, Cephas (Peter) and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they (which includes Peter) to the circumcised. This is quite clear, Paul to Rome and Peter to Jerusalem. >>>>Pope was first used for all bishops. And then Pope Leo was the first to be called Pope. 29 September 440 - 10 November 461 (21 years, 42 days)St Leo I (Leo the Great) LEO MAGNVSc. 390 Etruria, Italia, Roman Empire 50 / 71 Roman citizen. Convinced Attila the Hun to turn back >>>>From what we know in Scripture, Paul met with Peter three times (Galatians 1:15-18 in Jerusalem to get acquainted with Peter; Acts 15 & Galatians 2:1-10 for the Jerusalem Council; Galatians 2:11-21 in Antioch to rebuke Peter), and with James the Lord's brother three times (Galatians 1:15-19 when he was getting .. >>>> Who is the rock according to the Bible? In Deuteronomy 32, Moses calls God “the Rock” five times (all with the Hebrew term ṣūr for “rock,” which is also in Exodus 17:6, whereas Numbers 20:8-11 uses selaʿ): Verse 4: “The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he.” ----What is the true meaning of Matthew 16:18? In Matthew 16:18 Jesus talks about Himself. He is the rock and on Him the church has been built. If you believe that He died for our sins and rose from the dead on the third day, the gates of Hades (grave/death) will not prevail against you too >>> Romans 3:4 KJV God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, And mightiest overcome when thou art judged > Peter as The Rock Yahshua (Jesus) was speaking Aramaic, not Greek, as many claim. So when people argue over the “original Greek” he supposedly spoke, it is the beginning of confusion, which is why there are so many “contradictions” people see. The translations can suffer not only over many languages but many centuries, and the personal biases of individual translators, and one has to understand the intended meaning from the original language as much as possible. For example the figure of speech used here was where Yahshua was saying, you’re called Kepa (Petros in Greek, later Peter, stone; his real name was Shimon), but upon this Rock I will build my church. He was making a comparison. You’re a little stone, but upon this giant ROCK I will build my church. The prophecies of the coming one representing Yahweh-God was described as a ROCK, like a mountain. “Kepa” did not mean a giant rock nor was he the coming one or the one in prophecy. Peter did not save us from our sins. Peter did not own the church. Peter did not fulfill prophecies of the Rock. Peter was not the Messiah. Peter was a Jewish fisherman following an itinerant preacher he now realized is the Son of God and Messiah, and recognized Yahshua, not himself, as the Rock of Salvation. I know all about the idea of “apostolic succession” which is built upon this scripture and the entire structure of the catholic church rests. From this, the justification of thousands of “traditions” arose. He said you’re a little stone; I’m a giant Rock and I’m building this church upon myself. Yahshua is the head of the body of Christ, the true church. Not Peter. Peter is not the head of anything. He is just another part of the body of Christ, the church, like the rest of us. Christ is the head and he is the only intercessor between humans and God. The head intercedes for the body. The rest of the body has to submit to the control of the head, the brain and mind. That goes for the human body and the spiritual body. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I think the worst part is that allen mentions the 400 years of silence as fact and presents it as biblical, even though it is not explicitly in spcripture. What happened to sola scriptura
It feels so nice now watching Catholic content not in a state of contempt or fear. I dont know why but when I was a Protestant I would avoid Trent's content because what if he actually causes me to doubt. As a Catechuman in the Catholic church I am do at peace noe with the Christian faith 😊
@@sammygomes7381 by serving the Church you are serving Christ, his visible body on the earth. Protestants claim to serve Christ yet abandon the Apostolic tradition and rituals and doctrines therein. The issue with your statement is that the only time Christ mentioned this that we can see is where a person must choose to serve God or material benefit, however his Church and the service and worship therein IS serving Christ. In scripture we see things that cannot be understood by way of simply reading the text. The scriptures do not indicate how a person sat at their tables or the significance of why Jesus washed feet, what exactly the Sanhedrin was and how it operated, what synagogues were and the tradition of the Apostles that is referred to. We find all these things outside of scripture. What existed for the first 1000 years was a unified Church united under a Magisterium and upheld by sacred tradition. Even after the great schism between east and west that same Church still continued and it still exists today. In the 500 years since the beginning of the reformation we have seen a great departing from almost every doctrine the reformers held, heretical ideas forming and even seeing churches founded on, 1000s of denominations forming and the entirety of Protestantism today lives in a state of disunity, division and disharmony. All of these denominations state that they simply trust the plain reading of scripture yet they disagree on baptism, how and when a person is saved, on election and predestination, the nature of God, the nature of prayer, communion, correct interpretation, end times events etc. I’m sorry but I’ll stick with the Church 👍
The misinformation about Catholicism actually pushed me to learn the truth about it. After realizing how much slander the church has endured, it led me to believe it to be the true church. “The gates of hell” attack the Catholic Church more than any other, and they still have not prevailed against it ❤️✝️
@@_ROMANS_116you wish it so bad huh. More like Apostle paul will rebuked protestantism especially heresies in some of protestant denominations church.
I converted to Catholicism because my Protestant family and church leaders acted like my grandmother who passed was just gone forever and we are told not to pray for her or do anything to contact her because it’s evil. I couldn’t understand this in my soul. This was clear when I tried to pay respects to my grandmother by bowing as is our custom. My pastor/Aunt tried to stop me saying I was worshipping her. I told her I was not worshiping my grandma. I just want to honor her memory and talk to her in heaven. After much prayer I decided to convert (took me years) but this was one of the biggest problems I had with Protestantism. The other was sola scriptura and sola fide. Not true!! Not even biblical. Then I found out my professors at seminary lied to me about Martin Luther. They fabricated stories about him. I can go on and on about my experience but I’m just glad I’m Catholic now.
FACTS: Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope. Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intercessor. Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead. Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship. Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest" Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins. Christ NEVER taught salvation is through a church. Christ NEVER taught to pray to, or with beads!!! >>>> Question where can I find in scripture? Indulgences? Penance? Black Pope? The Church's records tell us there were potentially three Black popes in Catholic history: Pope Victor I, who headed the church from 189-199, Pope Miltiades (311-314), and Pope Gelasius I, who was pope from 492-496 Confession booth? Purgatory? Baby baptism? December 25th Easter? Monstrance? Unmarried priest? Priest drinking wine ? Wizard hat? Mitre Kissing of statues? Burning incense to statues? Sprinkle “ so called Holy Water “ on statues and people? The use of Coptic shell decoration on baby baptism bowl? Praying to the dead? Please attach scripture of any Hebrew keeping SUNDAY as a holy day? You think this is fun right you think I have nothing better to do with my life???? You think Satan cares about you? I know he hates me…. He can use his servants as vipers Christ has given the solution….HIS WORD ! This is not personal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CHRISTIAN The Greek word Χριστιανός (Christianos), meaning "follower of Christ", comes from Χριστός (Christos), meaning "anointed one", FOLLOWERS of the TEACHINGS of Christ!!! Written 2000 years ago! NOT my interpretation!!! >>> A Christian (/ˈkrɪstʃən, -tiən/) is a person who follows or adheres to Christianity, a monotheistic Abrahamic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
@@mitchellosmer1293 you have so much judgment & bitterness in you. I'll pray for you. If you truly want the answers to where it is in the bible, I suggest instead of reading your favorite affirming passages, you start on Genesis & read to Revelation. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you to disearn scripture. It's all in there & yes I'm serious. God bless you on your journey. You'll find God is much greater then you could ever imagine & He loves you so very much.
@@joantreadway7557I come from a place of love and I personally don’t see any judgement or bitterness from that person’s comment. All I see is his/her stand with what’s written in the “Bible” - a book we all Christians should live by. The same discernment you mentioned him to have is the same discernment you need to pray for when it comes to your faith. If you’re a follower of Jesus Christ and a Bible believer, then take a firm stand on it and its teachings because it contains the word of God (not the doctrine of man). If the Catholic’s church doctrines are directly backed up by Bible, then there should be no questions about it’s religious practices. I pray that each one of us receives the true love of Christ in our hearts and accept Him as our Lord and Savior. He is God! Please study your Bible; spend more time in the word of God.
@@ianmiller07not outright a Calvinist but in some of his videos he admitted on leaning towards Reformed views which are based on Calvinistic teachings.
@@PatrickInCayman I gotcha. The Reformed view is typically perseverance (another form of eternal security) so I wasn’t sure if he was a Calvinist but @AJsoment95x said he leaned Reformed. Thanks for the info
My dad was Anti-Catholic and he didn't allow me to go to a Catholic Church so when I was 15 I started going to Catholic Church and soon I'm doing RCIA.
As a orthodox Christian, it’s very hard to respect protestants that don’t recognize Catholics or Christian and disrespect the teachings and history and theology of Catholics. I’m recognizing evangelicals talk about no division and Christianity but continue to divide if any other Christian does not think like them example Catholics and orthodox Christians
Seems one sided on your biases here. More likely to see a Catholic talk about no one else is a Christian since they are not a part of the "one true church" compared to an evangelical who would be more likely to admit other denominations can be saved whereas differ on doctrine.
@jherandsoleil6335 I disagree. The church acknowledges that people who are not Catholic can be saved. Evangelicals? They often say that the Catholic church is satanic and is damned to hell.
To my Protestant brothers, Where do you think you got the Bible from in the first place?? Jesus never said there is going to be a New Testament or "Read my book". Jesus didn't leave a Book behind, then what did he leave?? He left 12 Apostles and Peter, the man with the Keys. He gave them the authority to preach and baptise. There was no Bible until the 4th Century. It was the Catholic church and its Bishops who decided that there is going to be 27 books in the new testament. The Apostles didn't go around the world preaching with Bible in their hands. They taught what they learned directly from Jesus. Many of their teachings were not written down, Paul the Apostle exhorted the faithful to 'stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by our letter" (2 Thessalonians 2:15). That's the sacred Apostolic tradition the Church has, how Eucharist is Celebrated, the Sacraments. Sola Scriptura or Bible Alone is a false doctrine of Protestantism. It was never meant to be Bible Alone. That's exactly the reason why there are 45000+ denominations of Protestantism and they teach 45000 different things. No one can agree with each other. The 3 pillars on which the Church is built is: 1. The Holy Bible, 2. Magistirium (Chair of Peter, Papacy), 3. Apostolic Traditions.
There were heresies within the church even in Paul’s day from the very beginning. And different beliefs forming in the churches in different cities. To argue that oral tradition is on the same footing as scripture is absurd. We had the letters, we also have all of the Jewish Texts that affirm the New Testament when one studies. It was these very texts Paul and others used. The Bible was there just not organized of which the Lord used the church to do. Also, many of these Catholic ‘traditions’ had a clear evolution over 100’s of years. They were not consistent and many disagreed over that time. The reality is many Catholic beliefs are not scriptural and are not there until they are inputed into it by that person.
@michaelsinclairs6224 Jesus never said: "I'm going to leave you with nothing but a book. But the average person won't be able to read it for 1,800 years until literacy becomes more common. And then they're supposed to decide for themselves what it means." Jesus said: Matthew 16:18-19 "I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound, even in heaven. And whatever you shall release on earth shall be released, even in heaven." There were around 30000 books written at that time. Early Christian writings outnumbered the 27 books that would become the canon of the New Testament. The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation into the liturgical traditions of the Church spread throughout the world, had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities. In the first four centuries of the Church many books, such as the seven letters of Ignatius, the Letter of Clement [the fourth pope] to the Corinthians, the Didache, and The Shepherd were revered by many Christians as inspired. It was not until the Synod of Rome under Pope Damasus in A.D. 382, followed by the Councils of Hippo and Carthage, that the Catholic Church defined, albeit non-infallibly, which books made it into the New Testament and which didn't.
@@alwinstanley3062 yes, I’m aware. My point stands. And of course not he sent us a helper, His spirit with His law written upon our hearts. I’m also aware of Matthew 16 and it can be taken a few ways from the original Greek, however none of which implying what Catholic doctrine tries to input into it.
@@michaelsinclairs6224 Apostolic Father St. Ignatius of Antioch (c35-107) who was a disciple of John and Peter wrote in his letters: "Beware of the heretics. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in His goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes!" "Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is administered either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude of the people also be; even as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." -Letter to the Smyrnaeans, Ch 8
I was just at my former Baptist pastor’s memorial service. They quoted Hebrews and said he was in heaven cheering us on. I sat there realizing they just agreed with Catholics 😀
@@dananderson6697 No. We hold that Protestants are in a partial communion with the Church, and that Protestants may possibly be saved. We do not assume of any soul that they are 100% in Hell.
@@EmberBright2077 ...and this is why Catholics are always complaining about "protestants" and what they say about Catholics. You say you do not assume anything of any soul, meanwhile, your dogma explicitly states that we have to come under the Pope's authority. We have to go to confession, we have to participate in the Eucharist, and so on, which directly undermines and contradicts what you just said. That is dogma - required for salvation. It appears for all the world that it isn't so much that "protestants" just get Catholicism wrong, as it is that Catholicism is a massive pile of garbled messages and contradictory gobbledygook that not even the Catholic can fully or consistently comprehend.
@@EmberBright2077 ...and this is why Catholics are always complaining about "protestants" and what they say about Catholics. You say you do not assume anything of any soul - meanwhile, your dogma explicitly states that we have to come under the Pope's authority. We have to go to confession, we have to participate in the Eucharist, and so on, which directly undermines and contradicts what you just said. That is dogma - required for salvation. Worse, a very great deal of Catholics (including Trent here) would say a "protestant" isn't even allowed to participate in half of those sacraments, specifically *because* they are "protestant" and purposefully rejecting Catholic authority. It appears for all the world that it isn't so much that "protestants" just get Catholicism wrong, as it is that Catholicism is a massive pile of garbled messages and contradictory gobbledygook that not even the Catholic can fully or consistently comprehend.
Mr Parr does one thing in his video... he says I THINK a lot , so it's all basically "his opinion". I would like to see him explain away Eucharistic miracles.
Been looking forward to this rebuttal since I saw this Allen Parr video show up on my homepage. It was uploaded just after I watched your debate with Gavin Ortlund on Sola Scriptura, very peculiar timing indeed. Edit: The new setup is clean!
Thank you mr. Trent for clearing up a lot of confusion. I've been watching these types of videos and didn't know what to think. Your videos strengthen my Catholic faith and calm me down, haha! God bless!
I've only been Catholic for 7 years and all these protestant arguments are all the same. I thank God for opening my heart to the truth and giving me a home in the Catholic church.
As a non-catholic / orthodox Christian I find much of the differences between protestants and catholics to be disconcerting. I've never labeled myself as a protestant, and certainly never went to a Catholic Church growing up. But lately, in the last year, God has shown much grace to me, especially when my 11 year-long addiction to sexually explicit content and immorality had been shattered overnight. Not to mention my wife's conversion from disbelief to faith in Christ (having audibly heard God's voice as she repented one evening). The Lord Jesus has definitely moved in our lives. I don't know why, after most of my teenage life into my early adulthood I had essentially turned my back on the faith, but never renounced Christ; why He would bring me back now is not something I can answer, except be eternally grateful for. I had many convictions of sins that I felt I desperately needed to confess to God, and to my wife. This need for confession is something I can't explain, I just knew it had to be done. The weight off me once I had confessed and was forgiven by my wife is sublime, and in turn, I knew that if she could forgive me, so could the Lord. Perhaps this is a picture of why confession is so important in Catholicism, just like James 5:16 says. I know the Scriptures keep imploring us to love sinfree lives, and that I strive for. My faith in Jesus is what I keep clinging to, and I am honestly searching to know where He intends to lead me. My fear is becoming an apostate or heretic. These things are what keep me from fully leaning into either "denomination". I just want the truth of Christ and to be obedient to Him. God bless you all and I would welcome prayers!
I did find it quite strange that he showed the correct definition of indulgences but then didn't quote from it and instead said that indulgences pay for sins and not temporal punishments of sin.
@@ZenkaiSage The Bible does not say we SHOULD NOT pray for the dead. Job prayed for his children who died. Maccabees prayed for his fallen soldiers. The argument should not be what we should or should not do. The argument should be whether praying for the dead is bad, evil and a sin or not.
@@justthink8952No. dead it’s over. This is deception and not biblical at all. Lord help us I was born again and now feel in trouble and I was nice and now I see this is horrible to be cast off and dark and listening to Catholics who believe THESE LIES. ITS a sad. Really and to be a grown man like this one in the video thinking HE CAN DO SOMETHING AFTER HE DEAD. Lord help this man It’s stupid
It’s not scriptural. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The murderer crucified with Jesus was told today you will be with me in paradise. Why? He believed and his sins were atoned for by the shedding of the lamb of Gods blood upon the altar.
@@FleurPillager I would think that a Christian would understand that eternal life is exactly that .. eternal life. For the righteous is doesn't start after death and it doesn't end after death. Alan mentions necromancy. Asking a saint to pray for us is not necromancy. Necromancy is trying to communicate with the dead. Communication is a two-way conversation. I speak to them and expect them to engage in a conversation with me. Catholics do not engage in that. When we ask a saint to pray for us, just as we ask our friends here... the prayer we ask them to pray for us goes ONE WAY...to God in the name of the Blessed Holy Trinity. Why would we ask saint to pray for us? We usually ask a saint that has experienced what we feel we are experiencing or a saint we have something in common with to pray for us .. We pray to God. Just because we ask a Saint to pray for us doesn't mean we bypass God...but we know our prayers will usually be what we think we need, not what we truly need. The saint will pray for what we need which will bring us closer to Christ.. ..while our friends will pray for what our earthly minds want...
I have no idea why you came up in my feed today, but I'm glad you did! We may agree to disagree, but I love your careful explanation of what you believe and why. So interesting and I've learned a lot!
Having been on both sides, lay Catholics are just as bad. But it's definitely the case that informed Catholics better represent Protestantism than the other way around
_Allan Parr is so ignorant of catholicism. At least we get his beliefs right._ Nothing wrong with being ignorant of pagan Catholicism, provided what you say is true about Alan, but not. But there is something wrong with Catholics being ignorant of Christianity, which they are.
_Allan Parr is so ignorant of catholicism. At least we get his beliefs right._ Nothing wrong with being ignorant of Catholicism and it's man made doctrines, provided what you say is true about Alan, but not. But there is something wrong with Catholics lacking knowledge of Christianity, which they are.
I don't understand why Protestants in the US are attacking Catholics, even though both believe in Jesus. In Asia, all Christians stand together and never badmouth one another despite being assaulted by non-Christians, especially Muslims. The attack on us is even more severe than we are called infidels and whatnot. Some Muslim Friday sermons are about Christians and talk through a loudspeaker. Thanks for this video. I am a proud Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope. Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor. Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead. Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship. Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest" Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
@@mitchellosmer1293 1. *The Pope* Matt 16:18 "rock" is used as "Caphas" Is a masculine term not a term used to describe an object to mark a location. Peter/Rock/Petros?Cephas 2. *Mary's assumption* Revolution 12 3. *Intercessor* 1 Tim 2 :5 "ONE mediator" *doesn't mean* "ONLY mediator" The Greek word used here is "Heis" which means a few things (primary, first, only, abundantly, them, unity, another & some). Like the salutation "ciao" (means hello/bye) in the Italian language, the context will determine the definition. If 1 Tim 2:5 means "only" then 1 Tim 2:1 would contradict it. It means PRIMARY/ FIRST. Christ is the *Primary* mediator NOT only. We are all called to mediate and we do so when we pray for one another. Mary can pray for you and intercede on your behalf 4. *Mary is sinless* Mary was saved believe it or not. Salvation is not exclusive to the forgiveness of sins actually committed. Jude 24-25 5. *Perpetual virgin* Matt 1:25 The word "until" just says what happened till the time of Christ's birth NOT after. Unlike what our modern usage of the word would imply. Example: 2 Sam 6:23. "Michal the daughter of Saul had no children UNTIL the day of her passing". 6. *The Pope is the head of the church* on earth like the father is the HEAD of the home. 7. *Catholic church* in Antioch under St John a disciple Ignatius was ordained by Paul and appointed "ignatius of Antioch" by Peter at the end of the reign of Evodius. Before going to Rome, he wrote a letter of unity to Christians all around expounding on teachings and in a letter to the smyrnaeans, he referred to Christians as "Catholic assembly" (greek Katholikos/ universal) assembly. 8. *The Saints are alive in heaven* Where does the Bible teach that the mystical body of Christ is limited to earth? 9. *The d3ad* Deuteronomy 34:5, Moses was D3ad. And yet Jesus communicated with him and Elijah about the redemption. 10. *Sunday* the day of worship is the day of the sun. This is after the fulfillment of the mosaic law 11. *Sacrament of reconciliation* God "breathed" twice in the Bible both administering authority through the Holy sprit. He breathed upon the apostles and told the "YOU forgive them of their sins" John 20:23 This DOES NOT mean do not confession to your brethren. Be in communion with the Holy Catholic and Apostolic church. The Church left to us by God 2,000 years ago. It will broaden your understanding of scriptural and Spoken tradition of God which are BOTH the infallible authority of the church, as they can not contradict one another.
@mitchellosmer1293 Say whatever you want or what you believe. It won't change anything about my faith in Catholicism. I received many blessings and graces for being a Catholic, more than I could ask for. I am happy and proud of my faith as a Catholic. 🥰 I wish you a great day.
Calvinism has been addressed long ago by Saint Francis de Sales, who used to live in Geneva. Unsurprisingly, no Calvinists at the time were willing to have a disputation with him in public, so he had to write a very long letter instead addressing the Calvinist sect. It has been edited and published in book format in recent times by the English title, "The Catholic Controversy".
Catholicism makes you yearn for righteousness which to me is better than some protestants saying i can't lose my salvation. there is no assurance whatsoever. At least I know when I do good works, even if it doesn't contribute to my salvation, I know to some extent I know I will be with God when I die. Your faith in Christ should come with love for Christ. I have always said Catholicism always make so much sense compared to Protestantism.
I want to explain to you why God sees our works: A lot of people claim, "Once saved, always saved." But there is something they completely forget about--the carnal nature. When we are saved, we are not automatically released from our carnal nature. We must crucify it. That's why Jesus says to take up our Cross. A lot of people say, "Works can't get you into heaven. Only grace!" And they are correct. But grace links me up to the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is active! He wants to work for God! Just because I am linked to the Holy Spirit, that doesn't make me a self-indulgent slob. Just thinking that is blasphemy! Because I am linked with the Holy Spirit, He does His works through me! He wants to serve God, and He does it through me! Let me share a story with you: There is a doctor trying to work on a patient. But the patient is being wheeled around by a nurse who won't let him stay put in his wheelchair. Every time the doctor tries to get to the patient, the nurse whizzes him away. The Doctor is Jesus. The Nurse is the carnal nature. And the Patient is you and I. The carnal nature always wants to be in control. The carnal nature can be tamed and can even follow rules because it wants the spotlight. It wants to feel self-righteous. But, there's one thing the carnal nature can't do: it can't be reborn. So, the patient has to look at the nurse and scream, "GET OUT! Leave me alone!" and then the doctor can get to work. The patient isn't doing a good work when he tells the nurse, "Get out!" On the contrary, he is NOT doing what the carnal nature wants. Wouldn't it be better if the patient was connected to life support, the Holy Spirit, and the doctor can work freely? It would be far better if the patient was critical and supported by the Holy Spirit's life support, then if he was being wheeled around by the carnal nature.
Protestant Conundrum: when they want to learn about the cstholic church, they go an read books on the church by protestants authors!!! Who "learned" from other protestants before them!!
Before I even get started, what's sad about Allen is Frank Turek had Jimmy Akin on recently to talk about misconceptions about Catholicism. However, Allen is now an instructor with Frank's Cross Examined Instructor academy (which I and Cameron Bertuzzi are graduates). I can't for the life of me figure out why you would have a guy like this be an instructor when he is producing this kind of content.
Thank you Trent for the useful and encouraging apologetics.,...we follow well and pray for you brother.....Love and prayers from Catholic community in Northeast India
The Purgatory part reminded me of a story I read once of a saint who had visions of Purgatory. I can't remember who it was, but she said there were protestants in Purgatory, but they have the hardest time there because their families and friends don't pray for them.
Lord Jesus said to St Maria Faustina (May 26,1938) "Tell sinners that no one shall escape My Hand; if they run away from My Merciful Heart,they will fall into My Just Hands.Tell sinners that I am always waiting for them,that I listen intently to the beating of their heart...when will it beat for Me? Write,that I am speaking to them through their remorse of conscience,through their failures and sufferings,through thunderstorms ,through the voice of the Church.And if they bring all My graces to naught,I begin to be angry with them,leaving them alone and giving them what they want." (Diary of Saint Faustina 1728).
I’m so saddened by Allen now I couldn’t finish the video. I used to listen to him when I was Protestant and never felt his arguments against Catholicism made sense. It also breaks my heart that so many believe Catholics are not Christian’s. It seems really disingenuous of him to not investigate the teachings of the Eucharist. I discovered that without this belief, one would not even be considered a Christian back before 100 AD. I was shocked to find out what St Ignatius and others who learned from the disciples taught. It blows my mind how early church history is not being taught. At the very least, he should study history first. I’m so happy to leave Protestantism behind. His comparison of Catholics praying to saints, as necromancy just proves how sola scriptura is wrong. These people believe they get to interpret all the scriptures however they want to 😢
quote---It also breaks my heart that so many believe Catholics are not Christian’s. .. unquoet CHRISTIAN The Greek word Χριστιανός (Christianos), meaning "follower of Christ", comes from Χριστός (Christos), meaning "anointed one",? a Christian is an imitator of Christ - see Luke 4:16 and John 15:10. a Christian knows God - see 1 John 2:3 a Christian loves Christ - see John 14:15 a Christian walks in Truth - see 1 John 2:4 a Christian prepares for Heaven - see Rev 22:14 NOT MY interpretation!! it is GREEK!!! FACTS: Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope. Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor. Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead. Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship. Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest" Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
@@mitchellosmer1293 You think you are saying exactly right but actually, you are spitting false assumptions that never supports the Christian Faith. How absurd these anti-Christ Protestant's unbiblical claims. You only proved that you do not read and understand the Holy Bible at all. The more you use hermeneutics to disprove the Doctrines of the Church, the more you will be put in shame more and the more you protest against the Church, the more you destroy your own anti-Christian beliefs. All of your claims are completely and totally wrong at all. . 1.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT PETER IS A POPE. Pope in Greek is πάππας (páppas) which means "father." In 1 Corinthians 11:3, it is clear that the man is the head of the woman telling us the leadership between the fatherhood [man] and the Church [woman]. "But I want you to understand that the Head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the Head of Christ is God." It is clear that Jesus called Simon, Peter in Greek Πέτρος, Petros in John 1:42 as Christ also called as Rock (1 Cor. 10:4). As the Holy Church has been established as early as 33 AD through St. Peter as the Rock of this Church (Mat. 16:18). "And I tell you, YOU ARE PETER, AND ON THIS ROCK I will build My Church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it." Jesus Christ never said this to Himself as referring to Rock but to Peter who named by Him as "Rock" to be the father of His Holy Church as Father Jesus is. It is clear that strongly misunderstood the Bible at all and your claim was a blatant error but purely lies and deception. Christ clearly taught implicitly that Peter was a pope. 2.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT MARY WILL GO TO HEAVEN. Really? The Devil told tell you that? Your claim is highly demonic. In Luke 1:48, "for He has looked with favor on the lowly state of His servant. Surely from now on all generations will call me blessed," It is clear that Mary was a humble servant. Can a humble servant will not go in Heaven? Your claim is strongly against to the Word of the Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 23:12. "Whoever will exalt himself will be humbled and whoever will humble himself will be exalted." Because God do not favor the proud but gives grace to the humble (James 4:6) and He crowns the humble with victory (Psalms 149:4). The Book of Revelation 12:1 also testified that Mary is in Heaven contradictory to your anti-Christian claim. 3.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT MARY AS A MEDIATOR/INTERCESSOR. Seriously? Did you know that Jesus Himself asked Mary, His Mother in matters of decision and acted as a mediator or intercessor between Her Son and the Disciples? (John 2:4-5) "And Jesus said to her, “O woman, what have you to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever He tells you.” Christ indeed taught Mary to be a mediator/intercessor to the Disciples according to the Holy Scripture. 4.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT MARY NEVER SINNED. If that's so, where in the Bible that Christ said Mary sinned. Give me the exact verse that Jesus Christ Himself taught that Mary is a sinner, and show me mentioning the sins of Mary according to the Bible. 5.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT MARY REMAIN VIRGIN. This is the worst misunderstanding ever believed by the deceiving Protestants. This is the problem to most ignorant Protestants who do not understand the Bible and the veracity of the passages. First of all, the Greek of "brothers" translated to as "adelphos" which means actually a general term that could both refer to biological and non-biological siblings in the ancient world. It also describes nephews, cousins, relatives, uncles, even friends. In the Greek Bible, adelphos has also used to describe the relationship of Abraham and Lot (Genesis 13:8, 14:14-16). The Truth there is that the Bible actually mentioned multiple Mary's and those Mary's appeared in the Bible were not a single person referring to the Mother of the LORD (Luke 24:10). The Bible claims that Mary has only one biological child (John 2:1) and none of this passage said that Mary has multiple children. It also mentioned in (Acts 1:14) that the mentioned "other women" and the brothers of Jesus Christ there were separated to the description to Mary as the Mother of Jesus. In Mark 6:3, James and Joseph (also called as Joses) who were also called as Jesus' brothers obviously the children of [the other] Mary, not the Mother of Jesus. They were the children of other Mary (Matthew 27:56, Mark 15:40) and it never mentioned there that it refers to Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ. In the Bible, it mentioned that Jesus has many brothers (Luke 8:19-21, Mark 3:31-35) not biologically but religiously and spiritually. If truly Mary has other children, then why is it that in the Mark 6:3 mentioned "sisters" of Jesus Christ where it mentioned repeatedly claiming that Jesus has only brothers? It contradicts the Biblical accounts itself. Paul also described Apostle James as the brother of Jesus (Galatians 1:19), then, Mary indeed has no other biological children and remained virgin since James was the son of Zebedee (Matthew 10:2) and the brothers of Simon Peter and John. The siblings --- Simon Peter, James, and John were recognized as the sons of Zebedee and did not recognize Jesus as their brother yet prostrating before Him instead (Luke 5:8-10). If Simon, James, and John were sons of Zebedee, Mary is obviously remained virgin because Zebedee was not Mary and her husband was not named as Zebedee. In fact, St. Paul also wrote that Jesus also has more than 500 brethren (1 Corinthians 15:6). If Mary has truly other children as biological brothers of Jesus Christ, then, you only showed that the Bible itself is contradicting with each other. Therefore, Christ Jesus taught us that Mary, His Mother has remained virgin and never bore other biological children other than Jesus Christ, the Lord.
@@mitchellosmer1293 6.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT A MERE MAN IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH. According to the Bible, Jesus is undisputable and undeniably the Head (Colossians 1:18) and the Rock of the Church (1 Corinthians 10:4). If Jesus, the Rock made Simon as also a Rock (John 1:42), then He can also make Peter as the head of the Church like Him since the Apostles had [the Church] foundations as the LORD Jesus is the Cornerstone (Eph. 2:20), therefore, a man Peter was also the head of the Church but Christ is the Supreme Head of the whole Church. The Church Tradition upholds St. Peter as a Vicar of Christ or the substitute to Jesus Christ as a physical instrument for His Beloved Church. He assigned Peter to stand as a leader of His Church as Jesus Christ did lead them before His Passion and is the Head of the Church. In Matthew 16:18, it clearly states there that Christ Himself made Peter to be the head of the Church He will build like Him saying, "On this rock, I will build My Church." The Lord Jesus Christ also taught Peter feed His sheep, this is obviously leadership of His Church (John 21:15-17). 7.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT ABOUT A CHURCH NAMED CATHOLIC. Your highly opinionated assumption is definitely wrong and always incorrect at all. Totally false. Catholic term in Greek is "Katholikos" that was derived from the Greek roots, "Kata" means "according to/on the/throughout" and "holos" means "the whole." Meaning, Catholic/Katholikos is "according to the whole" or modernly means "universal." Christ commanded the Disciples to make the world His disciples (Matthew 28:19). This is obviously Catholic since making the world His disciples directly means the Church since Christians are not only Disciples but also the Church. You are completely wrong about your false claim because Christ indeed taught about the Church which was named Catholic. 8.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT WE CAN PRAY TO THE DEAD. Christ indeed did not teach us to pray to the dead. Who told you that the Church is praying to the dead? Have you not read what the LORD said? All those who believe in Him will have Eternal Life (John 3:16). Christ is also clear that whoever believes in Him will live even though he dies (John 11:26). All physically dead saints who believes in Him are living because of their Faith in Jesus Christ, the LORD. Those saints are in coordination with the angels since their prayers are brought from the hands of the angel (Revelation 8:4). This only proves that you are unspiritual in nature. You only have the Bible and read it but you do not understand everything in it. 9.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT THE DEAD CAN HEAR OUR PRAYERS. According to the LORD Jesus, God is not the GOD of dead but of the living (Matthew 22:32). If the dead do not hear prayers, then, how come Moses and Elijah [whom you considered as dead] appeared to Jesus and talked with them? (Matthew 17:3). You are proving more that your beliefs are not Christian at all.
@@mitchellosmer1293 10.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT YOU CAN CHANGE THE DAY OF WORSHIP. Christ actually did. You are pertaining to the Jewish Sabbath that Jesus was once broke. According to Jesus, a man was not made for Sabbath but the Sabbath was made for a man (Mark 2:27) because Jesus Himself is the Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28). If Christ is the Lord of Sabbath, therefore, He has the power to change the day He willed. In fact, the LORD Jesus Christ never said that the Jewish Sabbath Day should always be Saturday because it is not the day Jesus has been worshiped by the Disciples. It was actually the day after Sabbath which definitely Sunday (Matthew 28:1, 9). Moreover, the Lord Jesus Christ gave the Church the Authority and Power to change the day as long as it has been approved at least by three or more than, GOD will grant it (Matthew 18:18-20). This is evident that the Church moved the Day of Worship from the Jewish Saturday to the Christian Sunday, the Day of the LORD's Resurrection when Jesus was worshiped by his Disciples. You are claiming something that do not align to the Words of the LORD Jesus Christ. 11.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT TO CONFESS TO A "PRIEST." Are you sure? The Lord is clear about confession to the priest in Matthew 18:17. In the statement, "tell it to the Church" does perfectly encourages confession to the priest since priests are also part of the Church. So, sorry, you are completely an apostate to the Christian Faith. 12.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT A PRIEST CAN FORGIVE YOUR SINS. Liar! Christ absolutely did. It is clear in the Holy Scriptures that Christ taught the priests to forgive sins of any men. The Lord Jesus Christ Himself gave the Holy Church the power to forgive sins and then forgiven and if the Church retained it, those sins will be retained (John 20:22-23). The priests who are the pillars of the Church obtained such Authority to forgive sins. By this, you are opposing the Will of Jesus Christ to use the Divinely Authority given by Him to His Beloved Church. Since you are rejecting the Words of Jesus, you are proudly showing your identity as a pure Anti-Christ because Christ never taught everything you accused to the Holy Church built by the LORD Jesus Christ.
The sheer ignorance of Catholic teachings shown by Parr here is absolutely embarrassing. Considering you would go through the trouble of making a video about it you would think you should educate yourself about what Catholics actually believe.
I spoke with a Presbyterian pastor once and everytime I used the word Catholic, he would correct me and say "Roman Catholic". Very annoying, as If he would honestly call himself Catholic in his day to day life.
@@atomicphilosophy Which was ridiculous on his part as "Roman Catholic" is reference to the Roman Rite. You should have asked him what a "Syriac Catholic" was. lol
As an Anglican, I love the charity displayed by Trent. I would have expected Parr to seek dialogue with seasoned apologists before posting the video. Trent speaks with such clarity. In our Euchariistic Prayers, we say ''grant us therefore Gracious Lord to eat the flesh of your dear Son Jesus Christ...''
Most protestants don't really care about the truth, they keep themselves in their echo chamber and parrot the same things, over and over. I can attest to that since i was one of those protestants, but one day i suddenly thought "wait... why do they badmouth Mary so much?" and started doing some research. It only took a few days to realize how dumb some protestants are (past me included lol), and now i'm Catholic.
I appreciate this guys zeal for the faith but man would it hurt him to sit down with an actual Catholic theologian to bounce his thoughts against to at least criticize us correctly? Catholicism is the largest faith in the world, and we have access to the internet, it cant be that hard to do given he walks in Christian circles.
It will greatly hurt him, apparently this is a way Parr is making money. He's not interested in scholarship and theology as it may diminish the number of people giving him money. That's why this kind of preacher is afraid to go out of their echo chamber and confront arguments with other side. He doesn't want Catholic arguments to convince any of his sheep, therefore he prefers to create made up positions to represent Catholic teachings.
As usual, Trent delivers. Always addressing the argument and providing evidence for his claims. Trent’s straightforward and evidence based videos are a huge reason for my reversion!
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope. Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven. Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor. Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned. Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin. Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church. Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic. Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead. Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers. Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship. Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest" Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
0:55 - "I personally don't think..." And there we have it. Sola Scriptura = Sola Individual opinion. I'm sure glad we have *this guy* around to tell us that 2000 years of Catholic theological advancement is all completely wrong.
My listening attention shut down when Parr started talking about how he's assured of salvation and has no restrictions on anything he wants to do. It's not that I was blocking his voice out of prejudice against his view, it's because what he says is so utterly nonsensical that my mind refused to consider it. So I just went with my instinct and didn't rewind. Life is too short for such nonsense.
Hi Trent, definetely you are one of the best catholic apolegetes in the world, just as Tim and Jimmy (Karlo is still young but will be also), thanks for these podcasts and videos, they are very clear and always nail the issues at hand.
Excellent video, Trent. I have recently returned to the Catholic faith, and I am currently reading your book, "The Case for Catholicism," which I am enjoying. I am a trained theologian, with two Masters degrees in theology, and discernment, prayer, returning to the Church Fathers, and the prospect of teaching theology at a Catholic school brought me back. Thank you for defending the faith.
@IoannesVI wow, that's a lot of pride in thinking he's not a righteous person as if you know his heart and have the authority to judge it. Both of you can be prideful at the same time.
@@ethanmiller5487 Is bearing false witness a sin? That's what he's doing in this video against catholics. You should go watch his video on losing salvation since you think he's not a Calvinist.
He would probably say that any righteousness we have as Christians is "imputed" righteousness, given as a gift from Christ. I think, however, that this is a very narrow view of what it means to be righteous.
I was explaining to my grandmother (non - Catholic) about purgatory. I explained how many Protestant/Evangelical Christians believe struggle with sins or don't have a chance to ask for forgiveness and repent will make it to heaven "smoking" (I was one of those that believed that way before my conversion to a Catholic Christian). This sounds a lot like purgatory and this helped me to accept the belief in purgatory.
Where did Jesus mention purgatory? Is His blood not enough to purify us? Can one buy or pray another out of 'purgatory'? Didn't Jesus pay the full price? Don't we receive full righteousness in our faith in Jesus? 1 Corinthians 1:30 It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God-that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. Gal 2:16 KJV Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
Man I’m in the first rebuttal section and this is hard to get through. This reads like Parr is being willfully ignorant/obtuse but maybe he’s just that convinced of his false position. Immaculate heart of Mary, pray for us
I don't understand the rebut about "Praying for the Dead" at 9:44. If once dead, the fate of the person is sealed, then why pray at all for the dead? The difference with praying for a living person is obviously, his fate is not yet sealed. Can someone (preferably catholic) elaborate? Maybe it completely went over my tiny head.
I'm in the same boat on this. If their fate is sealed, there can be no more purification. It's all said and done. However if there is a period of purification then yes, I can see why prayers would be offered.
Good job. I made a couple videos last week rebutting Allen Parr's video. I hope trent will check them out. One lady said " wow, this is the greatest video ever and you are so special!" Was that lady my mom?? Sure, but a subscriber is a subscriber lol
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21:49 The episode I referenced discussing Joshua Harris’s “I Kissed Dating Goodbye” will come out on Monday, so stay tuned for that!
Wouldn't miss it for the world
Thanks, Trent. Be sure to check out another RUclipsr who is attacking the Church: IThink Biblically.
What would you say to someone who claims Pope Gregory the great prescripting purgatory is analogous to Joseph Smith inventing the canon of his own golden plates?
I know Joshua Harris. I went to his dad's church (Greg Harris) for years
@@josh39684 Just sad I actually was involved with homeschooling circles and met the family.
"Do this in remembrance of me"
1. Do what? "This"
2. What's "this"? Eating the bread and drinking the wine.
3. What does Jesus say the bread and the wine are? "His body and His blood"
So simple, i can't see how protestants not only go of course with the understanding, but how they would not admit to “following the many disciples” that walked away from Jesus when they could not agree with the literal understanding. Pride, perhaps.
@@siddywiddyb It's because before "Sola Scriptura" or "Sola Fide", it's "Catholicism is wrong".
Imagine doing math insisting on PI being exactly 3. It won't work out and you'll need a lot of extras to make things kind of work.
"This is my body" not "this is just a neat symbol."
And if this wasn't enough, John 6 makes it even more obvious. But they can dismiss anything as a metaphor.
I am the door - made out of wood
I am the way - now He is tarmac
The house, the sand and the rock - instructions for engineers and home owners
The lamps and the oil - instructions for procurement
The hidden treasure - Good luck finding Gods kingdom by digging in your garden
Could tell you more, but need to drive to town now for classes how to sell and buy pearls...
The irony of him wearing a "sola fide" t-shirt and then saying "After a person dies, their eternal fate is sealed BASED ON HOW THEY LIVED THEIR LIFE whenever they were living."
I noticed it too😅!
"HOW THEY LIVED THEIR LIFE "
Is that a 'work'?
@@phild3936 Yes. Either good works or bad works
Contradicting himself. Says one thing on his T-shirt and then states that, 'their fate is sealed based on how they lived their life whenever they were living'.
Did you catch that he paused just a little bit as he was saying it? Like he was aware of the ridiculousness of his belief system, if only for the briefest moment.
What is sad about people like Allen Parr is that they don’t have a public dialogue with other Catholics to discuss these issues. Instead, they stay in their echo chamber and beat up a strawman.
Unfortunately for people like Allen they make a living off stuff like this in so much there's no way they could afford to come out and admit spreading false doctrine. We all live in a echo chamber but I will never understand how people who claim to love Christ Jesus could attack thr oldest church who established the new testament, have traditions all the way down to the time of Jesus. It's madness to me
@@humbirdms2784 Parr sounds so ignorant of basic Christianity. Its embarrassing.
Of course Parr doesn't, he just shows ignorance of all the basic creed whenever talking about the Catholic Church, so sad to see him spreading lies about our faith
The worst example of this is Todd Friel. The coward literally has most, if not all his comments disabled
@@3miL_2012as well as white
I grew up in a very strict Islamic household and converted to Catholicism. Truth be told, I find it exceptionally bizarre that Protestants and Catholics argue about which is the “true Christianity.” In the Middle East, Christians are the minority so whether you’re Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant, at baseline,
we see each other as one. Of course there’s differences. But nobody cares. So few churches are left standing that we respect one another’s existence. I’ve never gotten into an argument about whose Christianity is “right” with an Arab. We’re mostly trading stories about other, less than accepting religions and talking about Jesus in whispers.
But in the west - my golly - Protestants and Catholics argue like Muslims and Christians do in the Middle East. The first time a Protestant in the US ever told me I was a pagan, I said, “wait, what? Dude, I’m Christian just like you.” My husband had to debrief me on why western Protestants don’t see me as Christian, even though I’m Catholic.
News to me!
The odd thing is, it feels as though Protestants are telling us who we are, instead of, I dunno, listening to what we say?
“You believe in idolatry.” No we don’t. Loving Mary and holding her in high regard isn’t idolatry. Is loving your mother, idolatry?
“You’re pagan.” Umm. No we’re not. Do you even know the definition of a pagan?
“You follow catechism as sacred scripture.” Incorrect. The Bible, and ONLY the Bible is Sacred Scripture. Catechism is academic literature. It’s a manual to help teach the doctrine. Is your car manual a car? Or is it a very informative book that teaches you how to drive your car to its maximum capacity?
Protestants who insist on telling us who we are, I believe, are projecting that perhaps they don’t know who they are? I mean it’s rather odd to base your entire identity in opposition to someone else, isn’t it? Doesn’t that make you still part of the thing you’re opposing? I’m not a therapist - I’m simply suggesting that it seems rather odd to create one’s entire identity around opposing the existence of something because that is, quite literally, the definition of enmeshment.
I think the 'beef' we Catholics have with protestants is their prideful ignorance or worse yet, their insistent denial of clear teaching from 15 centuries. Plus, if one delves into the history of the protestant revolution, what comes out is powerhungry princes and preachers, senseless wars and the roots of many ills that persist today in the west.
Let's pray for the conversion of the unbelievers.
the roman catholic church does not fully follow the bible. it has created many man-made doctrines and practices not found in the bible. it rejects Christ's death on the cross as being sufficient. the roman catholic church compares favorably with the pharisees. i see my original comment about 7 roman catholic truths has been deleted. the roman catholic church is a false church.
Not that odd when one considers that the shites and sunis have been slaughtering each other and any other Muslim denomination since it was invented...not to mention their constant waring on everyone else on the planet.
@Greg-oi7pb - that’s a good point!!
The thing is, I was raised Sunni and I absolutely did not really know what a Shiite Muslim was because it just wasn’t taught.
But Sunni Muslims talk about Christianity A LOT. At least the school and community I was raised in. Everything was framed as “this is what Islam believes - this is what Christians believe.” So having been raised as a Sunni Muslim - I was taught to debate Christians, and kind of ignore shiites? It’s hard to explain. But I was definitely suprised when I converted to Catholicism and was being told I was NOT Christian - not by Muslims - but by Protestants!
“Et tu Bruté!”… was kind of how I felt because I was already getting SO much hate from the Muslims I grew up with. Seriously it was awful. I wish that on no one. So I felt kicked in the gut when some Protestants were telling me I was pagan. It felt rather harsh. Because the Muslims I grew up with were telling me the same thing. I was also obviously very sensitive at the time.
Anyway, I don’t take it personally anymore. That was YEARS ago. Still, I would absolutely never refer to another Christian as “pagan” because it’s kind of rude. And also not true.
Wise and necessary words...
You have the nail on the head....
Protestantism is an heresy
The portion on assurance of salvation is 100% accurate. In my life as a protestant, which is the vast majority of my life, I had constant fears along the lines of "what if my conversion wasn't genuine?", especially as I sinned. When converting to Catholicism this past winter (confirmed at Easter Vigil), I was often asked "how will you have assurance of your salvation, how will you have peace?". Since crossing the Tiber, I have never felt more assurance of my state with God than following confession. Hearing the words of the priest in persona Christi, "Your sins are forgiven, go in peace" is the assurance I had always been lacking in the protestant world.
God bless you, brother. I'm also a convert from this past Easter. I was an atheist before, but God gave me the grace to see how wrong I was.
@@LaudateChristus likewise, peace be with you. Pray for me, I'll pray for you
This is my same experience converting to orthodoxy, instead of always worrying whether or not I was “truly” saved, the only thing I worry about now is if I have broken God’s heart. A Protestant objection is how we’ve made Christ as a “fearful judge”, but I was never more scared of God than when I was a Protestant. No assurance of true salvation, especially when I sinned and walked away from God. Since finding the truth I am no longer ruled by a fear of Hell or not being truly saved. Once saved always saved is a recipe for paranoia. Knowing that though I fall I have God as my Father welcoming back His prodigal is so much more assuring.
Also confirmed at this past Easter with the same experience!
Did you watch Trent's video "Protestantism's Not So Simple Plan for Salvation"? I saw that last Summer when I first learned about Catholicism and it resonated with me fully
I can relate to this, back when I struggled with Masturbation it felt as if I was somehow never enough, that I was doomed to succumb to my flesh. If It weren't for confession, my scruples would have led to me renouncing the faith entirely. It felt so peaceful, knowing that even after failing uncountable times, that I could always find a guaranteed assurance, even If that state of grace didn't last long. It was as if I had the ability to restart my life again, with a fresh new beginning, every week.
I was banned from a 'Christian' discord server for posting this video in reply to someone posting Allen's original. Keep up your great ministry, Trent!
Yes!! My comment on Allan Pars page was removed because they didn't like what I said about his erroneous assumptions.
Keep fighting the good fight. The world will hate you because they hated the savior first.
Yeah you attacked his monetary base of followers so they will always block your comments. They don’t want you to erode their base of followers
That’s rough. Shows quite a bit of insecurity that they need to ban anyone who would dare suggest anything different from group think.
Interesting, I was also banned from a Christian discord server - which one were you a part of?
My wife and I have been on a search for a new church. The modern church continues to move closer to closer to culture and further and further away from the gospels.
We want authenticity and tradition, and I’m thankful for these resources when it comes to learning about Catholic teachings.
even in Catholicism, its tricky today, find a conservative Catholic chruch...
I've been there last year when I was seeking which church is truer.
All I can suggest you is that you seek truth itself and not just a good preacher. Of course I truly believe fullness of Christian truth is only within the Catholic Church, but it's your choice in the end.
My suggestion is that you also try an Eastern Catholic church if you got one nearby.
@@glennlanham6309 What you're saying isn't true because there's only one Catholic Church and only one doctrine. If people say things contrary to doctrine, it's the people who are the problem, not the doctrine. Whereas with Protestants, doctrine is the problem.
God bless you and your wife 🙏
@@glennlanham6309aka traditional. Grew up in what I found out is a liberal church and now attend a reverent one....quite different in reverence and piety
I was an altarboy in the 1960s, and have been a Catholic for many years. It is interesting to hear non- Catholics tell me what it is that I believe and then attack that. Thank you for defending the faith.
I was an altar boy also. When I read the bible I found out Christ nor the apostles never said mass. The bible also tells us there are no priests, cardinals, of popes in leadership position of His church.
Where in the Bible does Christ teach Sunday as a Holy Day???
#2--Where in the Bible does Christ teach Mary is a mediator/intercessor?
#3--Where in the Bible did Christ change the Sabbath to Sunday???
#4--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary has gone/ will go to heaven?
#5--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a mere man is head of His church???
#6--Where in the Bible is the title "pope" mentioned???
#7--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that those that die go right to heaven??
#8--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that mere men have to authority to change what God wrote???
#9--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Peter is a pope?
#10--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we can talk to the dead?
#11--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary will remain a virgin?
#12--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that is/was sinless?
#13--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that the Sabbath has been abolished?
#14--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we must go through a church for our salvation?
#15-Where in t he Bible did Christ teach that man has a right to change What God wrote and sanctified??
#16--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we must confess our sins to a priest?
#17---Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Rome is where He will set up New Jerusalem?
#18--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a mere man (Pope) is infallible?
#19--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Peter is THE ROCK?
#20--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that NO gentile needs to keep the Sabbath?
#21--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we can worship angels?
#22--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we are to bow to statues of Mary?
#24--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we are to worship Mary?
#25--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that anyone can add/take away HIS words?
etc, etc.
I ask for book, chapter and verse!! NO CATHOLIC will!!!
Just a simple book, chapter and verse!! Why is that to much to ask???
ALL i get is :read that/this book, watch that/this video, talk to a priest, OR outright condemnation for even asking questions. I feel sorry for any future converts when NO Catholic will answer their questions!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 Talk to a priest? Christ's church doesn't have a priest in a leadership position, nor a Cardinal, or pope.
@@sammygomes7381 quote---Talk to a priest?.. unquote
Apparently you did NOT read all my comments. I was talking about Catholics!!!
>>>quote-- Christ's church doesn't have a priest in a leadership position, nor a Cardinal, or pope.... unquote
I have been reading the bible for over 40 years. I AM very aware of that!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 I understood your comment well and was responding to the reply Catholics give you to talk to a priest. The fail to understand all believers are members of the priesthood but there are only two biblical offices, elders and deacons (Acts 14:23; 1 Timothy 3:8-13),Since the word for “elders” is usually found in the plural in the New Testament, it seems that each church normally had a plurality of elders. The terms elder, bishop, and pastor are used interchangeably in Scripture.
Im Orthodox but It’s so nice getting to cheer on Catholic defenders against protestant attacks.
We will NOT let it slide. As a Catholic apologist, I can't wait for my next challenge I'm FULLY prepared to defend Christ's Church.
FACTS:
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin.
Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church.
Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.
Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers.
Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship.
Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest"
Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
Christ NEVER taught salvation is through a church.
@@MarkelBeverley Where is the verse that says GOD RESTED on the first day of the week to make that day special?
Where is the verse that says GOD BLESSED the first day of the week to make that day special?
Where is the verse that says GOD SANCTIFIED the first day of the week to make that day special?
Where is the verse that says GOD NAMED the first day of the week to make that day special?
Where is the verse that says GOD DECLARED the first day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY to make that day special?
Book, chapter and verse ONLY from the Bible!!
>>>
#1--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Sunday is a Holy day?
#2---Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Peter was named a Pope?
#3--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary is a mediator/intercessor?
#4---Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary will go/has gone to heaven?
#5--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary will remain a virgin?
#6--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary was sinless?
#7--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that the Sabbath was changed to Sunday?
#8--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a mere man wil be head of His church?
#9--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that the dead can here us?
#10--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that when we die, we go to heaven?
#11--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a priest can forgive our sins?
#12--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a church named Catholic is head of His church?
#14--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a priest can forgive our sins?
#15--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that our salvation is through a church?
#16--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that a church is the truth?
#17--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that all writings are truth?
#18--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that all men are truth tellers?
#19--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that we are to bow to a mere man?
#20--Where in the Bible did Christ teach to pray to/with beads?
#21--Where in the Bible did Christ teach that Mary prayed to / with beads?
Book, chapter and verse ONLY!!!
AGAIN: BOOK, CHAPTER AND VERSE ONLY!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 1. *The Pope* Matt 16:18 "rock" is used as "Caphas" Is a masculine term not a term used to describe an object to mark a location. Peter/Rock/Petros?Cephas
2. *Mary's assumption* Revolution 12
3. *Intercessor* 1 Tim 2 :5 "ONE mediator" *doesn't mean* "ONLY mediator" The Greek word used here is "Heis" which means a few things (primary, first, only, abundantly, them, unity, another & some). Like the salutation "ciao" (means hello/bye) in the Italian language, the context will determine the definition. If 1 Tim 2:5 means "only" then 1 Tim 2:1 would contradict it. It means PRIMARY/ FIRST. Christ is the *Primary* mediator NOT only. We are all called to mediate and we do so when we pray for one another. Mary can pray for you and intercede on your behalf
4. *Mary is sinless* Mary was saved believe it or not. Salvation is not exclusive to the forgiveness of sins actually committed. Jude 24-25
5. *Perpetual virgin* Matt 1:25 The word "until" just says what happened till the time of Christ's birth NOT after. Unlike what our modern usage of the word would imply. Example: 2 Sam 6:23. "Michal the daughter of Saul had no children UNTIL the day of her passing".
6. *The Pope is the head of the church* on earth like the father is the HEAD of the home.
7. *Catholic church* in Antioch under St John a disciple Ignatius was ordained by Paul and appointed "ignatius of Antioch" by Peter at the end of the reign of Evodius. Before going to Rome, he wrote a letter of unity to Christians all around expounding on teachings and in a letter to the smyrnaeans, he referred to Christians as "Catholic assembly" (greek Katholikos/ universal) assembly.
8. *The Saints are alive in heaven* Where does the Bible teach that the mystical body of Christ is limited to earth?
9. *The d3ad* Deuteronomy 34:5, Moses was D3ad. And yet Jesus communicated with him and Elijah about the redemption.
10. *Sunday* the day of worship is the day of the sun. This is after the fulfillment of the mosaic law
11. *Sacrament of reconciliation* God "breathed" twice in the Bible both administering authority through the Holy sprit. He breathed upon the apostles and told the "YOU forgive them of their sins" John 20:23
This DOES NOT mean do not confession to your brethren.
Be in communion with the Holy Catholic and Apostolic church. The Church left to us by God 2,000 years ago. It will broaden your understanding of scriptural and Spoken tradition of God which are BOTH the infallible authority of the church, as they can not contradict one another.
@@mitchellosmer1293 I already recked your heretical Christian purview in a previous comment section of another comment by debunking ALL of your claims IN ORDER. You want more?
Coming from a southern Baptist background, I had no knowledge of "church history." Then I started to wonder what was the first church like? What was first apostle's church like? What was it like to seat with Jesus and listening to his teachings? I did not know Jesus in the southern Baptist church. This lead me to the Catholic Church and church history. I hope to join the true church one day.
what is stopping you?
I converted last year and now attend the Traditional Latin Mass with my wife and children. It is a huge blessing to be in the Church that stretches back to the Apostles. Now when I saw the Apostle's Creed, I mean all of it! One, Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. You won't regret it, my friend.
@@patricial.321Usually new catholics are baptised into the church at Easter
quote---What was it like to seat with Jesus and listening to his teachings.. unquote
QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary is a mediator.
QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary will go to heaven.
QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary is every ones mother.
QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Sunday is a holy day
QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught .a mere man is head of His church.
QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary will remain a virgin.
QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Mary is never sinned.
QUOTE the bible that says Christ taught Peter was named a pope.
.etc, etc
@@mitchellosmer1293 quote where any of that was not church teaching until 500 years ago
As I am protestant, I'm usually an affiliate with the Gavin Ortlund Mafia, but I did really like the points you made here. I believe I actually agree with your wording more than that of Parr's in a number of areas. I appreciate that you make it clear not to treat all Protestants the same since it is a rather vast spectrum of belief. Thank you for being so charitable, Mr. Horn! Have a very blessed day as well!
I pray you’ll come to your true home - I’m a convert myself and I assure you, Protestants are missing an ocean of beauty and a depth to their faith that they don’t know is missing. The sacraments are so important and powerful, too. Please don’t hesitate. God bless you.
@@erin6083 My dear friend, I sincerely appreciate your care for me despite our disagreements. I never want to take anything lightly that I should have pursued more closely and that most definitely includes the sacraments and tradition of Christianity. I wish you the best and pray that God blesses you as well.
Sanhedrin pt 2 arrived. Congrats, you will be the recipients of Matthew 7:21-23. You will proclaim you “kept the church” “performed miracles” and Christ will turn you away cause you lost the message, again. Just like the Jews did first go again, the second generation of those Jews is showing itself
@@jtbasener1810 That was so kind and beautifully said. Thank you. Truly, I pray for God to bless you and for the Holy Spirit to lead you to the Church if that is God’s will for you. Regardless, thank you again.
@@erin6083 Certainly, dear friend! Thank you for your kindness.
Raised as the daughter of a Protestant Evangelical pastor, I grew up deeply immersed in faith through a non denominational church (that felt eerily close to a denomination to me). My mother, a women’s teacher, embodied a profound spirituality that remained unwavering until her last breath. When she passed away, it felt as though a part of my own faith died with her. I longed for the deep, authentic connection she had with her beliefs. Although she was raised Catholic, she later converted to Protestantism, describing it as being 'born again.' Her family's history is deeply rooted in the Catholic Church, with many priests and nuns.
Only now am I coming to the realization that I misunderstood Catholicism and its depth of faith. I am apprehensive about exploring this newfound interest, fearing it could alter the dynamics within my family and make me feel as though I am betraying my mother’s memory.
Is there someone in the Church who can speak with Protestants who are curious about Catholicism? For context, my daughter attends a Catholic school, so I attend Mass weekly but cannot partake in the Eucharist. My husband, who was also raised Catholic, is now returning to his faith.
You could attend a parish's RCIA/OCIA informational nights. This doesnt obligate you to join the church, but can be an opportunity for discernment. Also, you can search for Called to Communion radio/podcast by Dr. David Anders. Both hosts are former protestant converts to the faith, and this particular EWTN Catholic Radio program is mainly geared to give non-catholics an opportunity to have their questions about why & what the church actually teaches.
If you feel comfortable you can reach out to a parish priest. Give them a call. They can assist you.
Reading Scott Hahn has helped people I know.
"I even I am YHWH beside ME there is NO SAVIOR". Isaiah 43:11.
"Put not your TRUST in Princes nor the SON OF MAN in whom there is NO SALVATION" psalm 146:3
--The virgin daughter of Zion that travails in childbirth with her firstborn is clearly defined throughout the OT and the is not a woman named Mary and God's firstborn EPHRAIM as he himself boldly declared.
The problem is people don't read nor study the OT therefore they have been misled by 1900 years of Cath. false doctrines. And have misunderstood the allegory of the gospel story. All doctrines of the Cath. And Protestant church are false. There is no trinity. God is ONE all by himself and there is NO OTHER. Isaiah 45:5-7.
No TRUE Messiah would EVER claim to be God Almighty and there was never a virgin birth. Pure paganism of Mystery Babylon that we were all warned 2k years ago would come to deceive us all. And it did exactly when Daniel prophecied. Thru R*O*M*E.
The true saints are of a little flock. I pray you pick up a lexicon and read the OT before you try to comprehend the NT.
The 1st commandment means what it says in Hebrew. It never changed. Blessings to you. The TRUTH will set you truly free!
@ Hi no christian believes this. May you find Christ.
Allen Parr said the early Church didn't teach transubstantiation.
Tell me you haven't read early Christian writings (i.e., Church Fathers) without telling me you haven't read early Christian writings.
There were four views of the Eucharist in the early church. In his magnum opus, History of the Christian Church, historian Philip Schaff (Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Volume 2, [Hendrickson Publishers, 2010], pp. 241-245; Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Volume 3, [Hendrickson Publishers, 2010], pp. 494-500) documents the four views the early church held in regards to the way in which Christ was associated with the bread and wine. You had the
(1) mystical view of Ignatius, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus and Cyril of Jerusalem which said the body and blood of Jesus are mystically in union with the elements leading to a sort of repetition of the incarnation, though no change in substance actually takes place as in later Romanism;
(2) the symbolic view of Tertullian, Cyprian, Eusebius, Gregory Nazianzen, Macarius the Elder, Theodoret, Augustine and Gelasius which said the Eucharist symbolizes the body and blood of Jesus and is a commemoration, not Rome’s literalistic transubstantiation;
(3) the allegorical or spiritual view of Clement of Alexandria, Origen and Athanasius which said the believer receives the spiritual but not physical blood and life of Jesus at Mass; and
(4) the literalistic view of Hilary, Ambrose and Gaudentius which affirmed the bread and wine as being the literal transformed body and blood of Jesus which is basically in line with the modern Roman Catholic system. The Roman view is in the minority, while the symbolic and mystical views seem to be the most primitive and popular.”
@@Justas399 You can also find it in the writings to Emperor Marcus Aurelius regarding the early church and eating of the flesh of Jesus. Early Romans called Christ believers in the Eucharist cannibals but the letter to Marcus explained, they don't eat people, they eat the living Jesus spiritually that has transformed into living bread.
@@davidestate You are not getting that doctrine from exegeting the Scriptures.
This is clearly secondary protestant source claiming this kind of nonsense.
This is all great information but let’s not forget all the early church fathers disagreed on seperate issues but the important thing to remember is What the church teaches.
I’ve always found it interesting how some Protestants go after Catholic beliefs and teachings. Yet never attack Orthodox views who have like 90% of the same views as us… (saints, Theotokos, etc)
Most don't know the Orthodox exist.
All they know is Catholics, other Protestants, and Jewish. Tell them about the Orthodox and their brain will short circuit!
It's a american protestant thing to go after catholics. And because they're americans, they don't even know what orthodoxy is. I live in Switzerland and catholics and protestant go hand in hand with each other. you often have pastor preaching in catholic churches or catholic priest preaching in protestant churches... or holding together a mass. But here in Switzerland the protestant or more or less "homogen"... here you have the "protestant church" and not 1000 variations of protestant churches.
Not surprising. The Catholic Church is by far the biggest denomination in the world. So it’s the big bad boogeyman
@@Brainboxreview not to be "ackshually" but we are not a denomination. We are what they come from.
The difference in tone is very clear. Most Protestant apologists I've watched use really high tone, loud voice, quick tempo just to "dominate" the audience, and most Catholic apologists I've watched use pretty calm, normal voice to speak just like giving the message, to need to "pressure".
The opposition in this video are day and night. For me, I prefer the more peaceful voice (plus the message).
Thank you for that insight! -Vanessa
I have noticed the same, very strange AND their preachers actually learn how to preach using their tone of voice. It is soo scripted and fake
@@TheCounselofTrent It is very obvious to most, even non Christians Circus barkers comes to mind.
Even here in the Philippines, most Protestants debaters are shouting by preaching instead of answering, they jumped in different issues if they are cornered and returned again if question forgotten.. they shout! Shout! facing the audience instead their opponent.. hand signaling to the audience shouting hearsay outside the topic... Catholic is pagan bla bla bla that not stick in one topic... Most of them are barbarian attitude..
@@TheCounselofTrentit does. You are being spiritually sold a delusion. They don’t and can’t intercede for you. Nobody.
A righteous person is alive. You all keep thinking dead people can hear. It’s a lie. Deception. Notice it’s catholic believe not what the Bible says. Sad you all put a church before God word.
The fact that he denied the real presence of Jesus in the Eucharist broke my heart.
As a Protestant, I’m so sorry that your teachings were treated with so little care and education.
Specifically, transubstantiation, Communion or The Eucharist is so amazing and is the tangible grace of God!
As I watched I realized how much evangelicals do not understand the omnipresence of God and how he is amble move outside of time.
Truth is, Evangelicals are a caricature of historical Protestantism.
God bless you.
Thank you and God bless you, my friend :)
Me too.
Look, I didn't either when I was an atheist & then an evangelical. They don't encourage sincere inquiry. They want to hand you the answer with no effort involved. No one gets anything worthwhile that way, except the gift of redemption which still requires our acceptance for salvation. 😁🌹🙏
I hope Trent would do a Free for All Friday where he discusses how he researches, because he is so good at supporting his arguments with sources
I love how he quotes protestants to put them up against other protestants. They both go by sola scriptura and both claim to interpret the scriptures with the Holy Spirit yet contradict each other. Who do we listen to?
It's as if he is showing the protestants that 1. another protestant refutes their position, 2. the division in protestantism and 3. no authority to say who is right or wrong in protestantism.
@@FleurPillager Cool straw man. Is this what protestant "pastors" teach at bible "study?"
@@FleurPillager Please try to not act in bad faith. It is certainly unchristian behaviour.
It’s funny too because the Church has dealt with, clarified and taught all of this throughout the centuries since the apostolic age. It’s like there’s a mass amnesia
That’s almost exactly what it is. Many evangelicals completely forget the thousand years before Martin Luther, and some done even care about the reformation denominations and are less traditional with the ted talk churches
@@FleurPillageryeah false doctrine created by the deformers, who worship Martin Luthefer
It's more like cognitive dissonance obviously. It's easier to ignore the truth than to change your life and self-made religion is comfy
Yes, but many of those teachings evolved over hundreds of years clearly illustrating their heretical origins.
Jesus clearly said when a sinner repents, the angels celebrate in heaven. If the angels are not rooting for the sinner to repent, why all the celebration then?
Well said!
Im subbed to Mr. Par because up until this easter I was protestant, I saw this video in my sub feed and thought "well this is heresy... can't wait for trents video on it." thank you Mr Horn for your continued defense of the faith. :)
Welcome to the Catholic Church, brother
@@MarceloIsasmendi It feels good to be home, thank you. Praise God.
@@InTheCloudsFilm soon I shall come home to the Church of Christ soon too! May God bless you and keep you and may Our Lady pray for you.
Praise to God! I had the same experience with Mike Winger. Was also confirmed at Easter this year and get Mike's videos in my feed only to roll my eyes every time he mentions Catholicism
@@shepherddog1199 AMEN! praying for you!
This guy is on the same level as Ray Comfort and Mike Gendron. He has no interest in a dialogue with any Catholic apologist. He doesn't want to explore truth. He wants to feel good about his spirituality. Really old, tired arguments that are easily refuted.
They need to justify their belief by trying to knock down Catholicism.
No matter how emphatically people deny the church their conscience troubles them, deep down they know better.
No, no one is as bad as Mike Gendron. He might be as bad as Ray Comfort.
@@MeanBeanComedy I saw a video of a Lutheran pastor defending infant baptism against Mike Gendron and you could tell how appalled he was at Mike’s out of control hubris. Mike actually said “anyone who defends infant baptism clearly hasn’t thought about it very deeply” it was so ridiculous that it still makes me laugh. The pastor replied with “sooo people like Martin Luther didn’t think about this very deeply.” It was golden.
"Assurance of Salvation" is emblematic of this hubris. "I want to be saved, but I don't want a real relationship with God, just a Divine sugardaddy."💔
Makes me sad. Trent and Jimmy are some of my favorite Christian apologists (period) and I'm a protestant. To not have dialogue and glean insight from such great minds is a terrible disservice.
My whole life I never felt comfortable in my protestant belief. Since I converted to Catholicism, I can't stand even listening to them anymore and their weirdly enthusiastic tone while flat out lying.
The IHM TREE of life project ruclips.net/video/Aa9OQHXR27A/видео.html a visual history of the Catholic Church from creation to present.
Welcome home! Best choice!
I agree (convert also) it is hard for me to listen to protestant "preachers" anymore.
@@MagnificatForever15 God bless you lol because protestantism is has done a terrible number on the "Christian brand" and even the modern culture
Catholicism is awful tbh.
Thank you very much brother (and my best Catholic Apologist) Trent H. for this very important and informative content. Counsel of Trent Podcast is one of my favorite Catholic RUclips Channels including Bryan Mercier @ Catholic Truth, Joe H. @ Shameless Popery Podcast, Matt @ Pints with Aquinas, Jimmy Akin @ Mysterious World, @ Voice of Reason, Michael @ Reason and Theology etc......
Continue to defend, evangelize, and preach the faith, doctrines and teachings of the One True Catholic & Apostolic Church.
God bless you and your ministry.
Greetings from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬.
He said that "we protestants" believe the bread and wine to be purely symbolic. Actually, even in the protestant world, this is a minority view.
Protestant here.He is right purely symbolic.
@@peterlee6148Sure, but in the Protestant world it’s still a minority position. It’s probably only in the Protestant evangelical world that it’s a majority position
@@peterlee6148wrong, Lutherans, Anglicans, reformed don’t hold to symbolic view
@@FleurPillagerthere are no hundreds, that’s a straw man there’s only a small handful of Protestant traditions
@@PopelessCatholic Anabaptists, Anglicans, Lutherans, Amish, Huttites, Mennonites, Adventists, Calvinists, Puritains, Methodists, Pentecostals, Baptists, Charismatics, Pietists, Plymouth Brethren, Irvingists, and Evangelicals.
These are the main traditions that I know of and I have a feeling I still missed some. There might be some overlap. This isn't even including non-trinitarian denominations. Or the splits in doctrine within these traditions. This is more than just a small handful.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU, Trent, for making this video! Allen's video irked my soul. I was talking to my phone the entire time, refuting his claims. I thought I was going to have to break my social media silence to make a video refuting his outrageous claims. Bravo, Trent. Bravo.
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin.
Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church.
Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.
Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers.
Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship.
Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest"
Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
NO Catholic can quote the BIBLE to prove otherwise!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 firstly, such things ARE in the Bible, point in fact. Have you polled all 1.2 BILLION Catholics to see what we can and can't do?? Some of us can use the COMPLETE Bible, the one NOT BUTCHERED by Lutherfer, to support these doctrines.
However, we don't hold to sola scriptura, itself unbiblical, and it would be bad faith to demand that we do so. So I'm not going to. Nyah. I won't even ask where, in the Bible, does it say that the Bible is the sole infallible rule of faith. I won't point out any of the glaring inconsistencies in Protestant belief. I will only wish you well and pray that your eyes are opened one day, as mine were. Be blessed.
@@mitchellosmer1293 Copy pasting this everywhere wont make a point, you only make yourself for a clown.
@@Gojiradogzillagodzilla quote----Copy pasting this everywhere wont make a point, you only make yourself for a clown... unquote
And that commemnt makes you arrogant!!!!
Apparently you belive you are SO important that I SHOULD type out every word JUST for you!!!!
Nope!! NOT going to happen!!! Btw--Arrogance is a sin!!!!
But you still CAN NOT debunk my FACTS!!!! That imples you that you CAN NOT!!! And that means MY FACTS are TRUE!!!!
So, I will add another pont to the number of Catholics (and otherrs) that refuse to debunk the facts!!! Now up to 385. And you are another that will NOT obey Peter!!!
Did you catch that dude said you are judged by how you lived your life? So it isn’t sola fide like the shirt he was wearing. His logic eats itself.
The moment he said, "I personally don't think" was where I knew he was wrong. He's using his own opinion to try to disprove Catholicism.
Also the NLT is a horrible translation.
Same thought here 🙋🏻♀️
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin.
Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church.
Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.
Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers.
Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship.
Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest"
Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
@Disguised31 quote---You better need to be born again... unquote
A worthless opinion!! Why should I????
@@mitchellosmer1293 Where are you getting your information from?
I’m a professional videographer. Great lighting, Trent. Love it.
Same here, yup! 😎👍🏻
I think the main problem I have with Parr's arguments is they frequently assert "I don't think... ." He consistently places his own opinions as if it were an authority in of itself, there seems to be a lack of any true humility.
Exactly advices people when he also not sure he lead people to die he committed sin
What part of the message did you disagree with?
Pope Parr.
Roman Catholicism does the same thing, then when you ask for support for their beliefs they refer to non scriptural text, written by Roman Catholics.
I thought I was the only one who noticed the same and I'm just glad you do too. Thank you!!
As a Presbyterian I am finding more common ground with Catholics than I do with low church Protestants.
Same here
as a (soon to be) Lutheran, it annoys me so much when people like Allen Parr make Protestantism out to be low church, non sacramental, and osas. i would rather go to a Catholic church than a Protestant low church because even though i disagree with Catholics on points about justification (which isn't as grave as a difference as people make it out to be) or the treasury of merit, at least Catholics realize the importance of the sacraments and that we must continue in the faith. and Trent saying that "Only God can get me to heaven but you and I can certainly get ourselves to hell." seems very similar to the Lutheran view which would be that we don't preserve ourselves in the faith, God the Holy Spirit does, but we can also still resist God's grace which is a reality we should acknowledge as possible.
I appreciate your thoughts. I agree, there are certainly meaningful differences between us as Catholics and Lutherans, but you are right about this issue. We as Catholics have to be careful not to say "Protestants believe [X]" as if all Protestants are one and the same, but it is also all too common for some Protestants to say "Catholics are wrong because they believe [X]" and not realize that they are actually denying a common or even majority held belief/practice that other Protestants affirm as well.
@@FleurPillager please explain what the Catholic Church has made up? If you are a Bible alone “sola scriptura” Protestant, then do you realize how much of YOUR beliefs are made up? Protestantism is a man-made gnostic religion…with a bit of Jesus added in. Why did the Protestants REMOVE 7 books of the Bible? Do you know anything about Martin Luther and what a crass, immoral and evil man he was?
@@FleurPillager and please, feel free to research before posting ridiculous rumors about Catholicism. Each one of your claims have been entirely debunked and clarified. But you’d have to actually take the time to go research those claims on your own. It seems though, that Protestants would rather spend that time posting insults and attacks instead.
I’m a Lutheran as well and people like Allen Parr are not the type of theology or beliefs I want to associated with as a Protestant
I really wonder why Lutherans like yourself don't convert. Justification was a huge deal for Luther, but it was built on a lot of misunderstandings and talking past each other. The same thing with the Eucharist. Luther never responded to Aquinas' articulation
Having flipped from Calvinism to Catholicism, Lutheranism seems like an out-of-date middle step
I applaud Trent Horn for his loving patience to respond to such weak and faulty arguments. As a manager I often fail to show so much kindness to such poor reasoning and research. A convert from Pentecostalism to the Catholic Church 😂
Ha! Bet that's a wild story. 😜😝
It is incredibly frustrating for sure, feels like beating the proverbial horse.
God bless you!
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin.
Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church.
Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.
Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers.
Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship.
Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest"
Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
@@mitchellosmer1293 Yet another prot that doesn't understand why Sola Scriptura falls flat.
Christ also never taught that abortion is wrong or homosexuality. That doesn't make them okay.
Very low-IQ attempt at making a point.
Also, he did tell the Apostles he gave them the ability to forgive sins, and to confess our sins to those in the Church, which even you should be able to do the math on.
As a Protestant, I can safely say that it is a good idea to ignore Allen Parr a good majority of the time. 🤷 And also, thanks to my Catholic brethren for standing so doctrinally strong on the Incarnation. I ❤️ you forever for that. 👑
@@AbstractMindsThinkAlike the heart is deceitful above all things; I wouldn't trust it. I love Catholics and I love Protestants as well as human beings made in God's Image of every custom, tribe, and tongue, which is not to say I agree with the areas of falsehood, misunderstanding, or error of fallible humans. Allen Parr is great in many respects, and some of his content is helpful for spiritual growth in Christ. A lot of it, unfortunately, is full of error. Stay in the Word of God and in prayer to discern. And no, I didn't say that Catholics were perfect humans without error themselves. None of us are. Which is why we need a Savior. Also, no one can like my comments, ever....lol I'll be JUST FINE. my contentment is found in God alone. 🤷. Blessings, ❤️
@@AbstractMindsThinkAlike "Just because you have different beliefs than someone else doesn't mean that person is wrong." OK. That applies to Catholics, then. And it applies to me and you should follow your own advice. Maybe I'm not wrong.
"Don't call someone out as wrong just because they don't fit your docturnal (doctrinal) beliefs." OK. Tell that to Parr, and follow that advice yourself and stop calling me out as wrong just because I'm not the exact Protestant that you are. Anyway, lol, lest this sound like an angry response...it isn't. Just asking for consistency and to do yourself what you ask me to do. God bless you! ❤️ Have an awesome day. 🔥
@@AbstractMindsThinkAlike I thought prots were free to interpret the Bible for themselves
@@bethezebraboy I dont care if you think your protestant, after that response on that guy, your catholic now, we claimed you, its over Lil bro see you sunday
Respect to you my friend. As a Catholic, I recognize that sadly, the majority of Catholics are either by name or not really involved deeply or practicing the true, complete and incredible deep faith we have.
When I see Catholics committed and really knowing their faith as Trend, this is what I expect to be as a Catholic.
Let's pray to have one day all Cristians under one and the same Church.
Let's have the Holly Spirit guide us.
Amen.
Great job. Love the videos. I pray my Protestant friends and family members will soon come to believe the Truth.
Thank you Trent for pointing out the many blind spots in Protestantism. It’s a little wild that while you’re explaining Catholic teaching and correcting Parr’s misunderstandings, you also have to correct his own views of Protestantism! Thanks for your good and careful work brother.
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin.
Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church.
Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.
Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers.
Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship.
Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest"
Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
@@mitchellosmer1293"And I tell you, you are Peter,[a] and on this rock[b] I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it."
What does this mean?
@@josephvictory9536 quote----And I tell you, you are Peter,[a] and on this rock[b] I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it."... unquote
You have time to quote that to me, but NO time to do any research ONLINE!!!!
Let's read the WHOLE story i Matt 16:13-20
New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
Matt 16:13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say that the Son of Man is?
v 14 And they said, “Some say John the Baptist, but others Elijah, and still others Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”
v 15 He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?
v 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah,[a] the Son of the living God.”
v 17 And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father in heaven.
THAT VERSE is one of the MOST important!!!! A revelation from GOD to Peter that Jesus IS the MESSIAH!!!
v 18 And I tell you, you are Peter,[b] and on this rock (Jesus) I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it .
First. when does hell have gates?? Keep the dead in or out?
That verse means NOT even Jesus' death will prevent His word and HIS church (Christianity) from growing.
v 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
------------Jesus gave Peter “the keys of the kingdom of heaven,” not the keys to heaven.1 A key was a badge of authority ( Luke 11:52 ), and then as now was used to open doors. Peter used the keys Christ gave him to open the door to the Jews on the Day of Pentecost ( Acts 2 ), to the Samaritans after the preaching of Philip ( Acts 8:14-17 ), and to the Gentiles after the Lord had sent him a vision and an appeal from Cornelius ( Acts 10 ).
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Catholic Encyclopedia: The Pope: "The expressions binding and loosing here employed are derived from the current terminology of the Rabbinic schools. A doctor who declared a thing to be prohibited by the law was said to bind, for thereby he imposed an obligation on the conscience. He who declared it to be lawful was said to loose."
>>AND VERSE 20 Then he sternly ordered the disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.
QUOTED from:
New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition
Who is the Rock?
-------1 Corinthians 10:4
4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
Christ!! NOT Peter!!!
-----1 Peter 2:4
4 As you come to him, the living Stone-rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him-
(was Peter rejected by humans????)
------1 Samuel 2:2
2 “There is no one holy like the LORD; there is no one besides you; there is no Rock like our God.
----Deuteronomy 32:4
4 He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he.
(were Peter's works perfect and just??
------Deuteronomy 32:18
18 You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgot the God who gave you birth.
-----Psalms 18:2
2 The LORD is my rock, my fortress and my deliverer; my God is my rock, in whom I take refuge, my shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.
---Psalms 144:1
1 Praise be to the LORD my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.
(There are 10 verse by Davis like those).
-----Either Jesus/God is the Rock, or all the people that wrote those verse are liars!!!!!
@mitchellosmer1293 none of what you said refutes the obvious interpretation of christs own words.
"And I tell you, you are Peter,[a] and on this rock[b] I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it."
It is always telling when people have to do backflips to explain away the obvious.
Again what is Jesus telling Peter. Put it into a normal English sentence. Let me give you an example:
"Peter you are the head of my church, and hell will not prevail ever"
@@josephvictory9536 Why did you mess with the English spelling of Petros? That is interesting you did that. IN the actual Greek that Matthew wrote, Peter is petros (which is little rock) and on THIS PETRA (BIG ROCK) Jesus will build HIS Church. Matthew makes a clear distinction here. The PETRA , the actual foundation is not in a human Peter, but the TRUTH of the Jesus Christ. That HE IS THE SON OF GOD The Messiah. that Peter recognized a few verses earlier. That is the PETRA the foundation. Not little petros.
If Jesus meant Peter would be it, He would have just said, You are Petros and ON YOU I shall build the Church. Why use the term 'on this' if Jesus referred to Peter? Jesus wouldn't. There are two words as the meaning are clearly different. petros and PRETRA.
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The New Testament offers evidence that, even if Peter had somehow made it to Rome, he did not stay long in the city before he died. The apostle Paul wrote the book of Romans in the winter of 57 A.D. The book does not mention him at all, which would be an incredible oversight if he had lived in and evangelized the city.
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Paul stated in Galatians chapter two that he was an apostle to the uncircumcised (Gentiles - and the citizens of Rome were almost entirely of this group) and Peter was the apostle to the circumcised (Jews) He goes further than this and states in verse nine,
"James, Cephas (Peter) and John, those esteemed as pillars, gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship when they recognized the grace given to me. They agreed that we should go to the Gentiles, and they (which includes Peter) to the circumcised.
This is quite clear, Paul to Rome and Peter to Jerusalem.
>>>>Pope was first used for all bishops. And then Pope Leo was the first to be called Pope.
29 September 440 -
10 November 461
(21 years, 42 days)St Leo I
(Leo the Great)
LEO MAGNVSc. 390 Etruria, Italia, Roman Empire 50 / 71 Roman citizen. Convinced Attila the Hun to turn back
>>>>From what we know in Scripture, Paul met with Peter three times (Galatians 1:15-18 in Jerusalem to get acquainted with Peter; Acts 15 & Galatians 2:1-10 for the Jerusalem Council; Galatians 2:11-21 in Antioch to rebuke Peter), and with James the Lord's brother three times (Galatians 1:15-19 when he was getting ..
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Who is the rock according to the Bible?
In Deuteronomy 32, Moses calls God “the Rock” five times (all with the Hebrew term ṣūr for “rock,” which is also in Exodus 17:6, whereas Numbers 20:8-11 uses selaʿ): Verse 4: “The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he.”
----What is the true meaning of Matthew 16:18?
In Matthew 16:18 Jesus talks about Himself. He is the rock and on Him the church has been built. If you believe that He died for our sins and rose from the dead on the third day, the gates of Hades (grave/death) will not prevail against you too
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Romans 3:4 KJV
God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, And mightiest overcome when thou art judged
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Peter as The Rock
Yahshua (Jesus) was speaking Aramaic, not Greek, as many claim. So when people argue over the “original Greek” he supposedly spoke, it is the beginning of confusion, which is why there are so many “contradictions” people see. The translations can suffer not only over many languages but many centuries, and the personal biases of individual translators, and one has to understand the intended meaning from the original language as much as possible.
For example the figure of speech used here was where Yahshua was saying, you’re called Kepa (Petros in Greek, later Peter, stone; his real name was Shimon), but upon this Rock I will build my church. He was making a comparison. You’re a little stone, but upon this giant ROCK I will build my church. The prophecies of the coming one representing Yahweh-God was described as a ROCK, like a mountain. “Kepa” did not mean a giant rock nor was he the coming one or the one in prophecy. Peter did not save us from our sins. Peter did not own the church. Peter did not fulfill prophecies of the Rock. Peter was not the Messiah. Peter was a Jewish fisherman following an itinerant preacher he now realized is the Son of God and Messiah, and recognized Yahshua, not himself, as the Rock of Salvation.
I know all about the idea of “apostolic succession” which is built upon this scripture and the entire structure of the catholic church rests. From this, the justification of thousands of “traditions” arose. He said you’re a little stone; I’m a giant Rock and I’m building this church upon myself. Yahshua is the head of the body of Christ, the true church. Not Peter. Peter is not the head of anything. He is just another part of the body of Christ, the church, like the rest of us. Christ is the head and he is the only intercessor between humans and God. The head intercedes for the body. The rest of the body has to submit to the control of the head, the brain and mind. That goes for the human body and the spiritual body.
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I love this kinds of videos.. respect from catholic Croatia
The IHM TREE of life project ruclips.net/video/Aa9OQHXR27A/видео.html a visual history of the Catholic Church from creation to present.
Croatia is beautiful country
God bless!
I think the worst part is that allen mentions the 400 years of silence as fact and presents it as biblical, even though it is not explicitly in spcripture. What happened to sola scriptura
Allen have opinion on fake gospels spread during those 4 centuries, Full of gnosticism, but prohibited by the Church by the Canon List?
As an Eastern Orthodox priest, I want to thank the Roman Catholics for taking the brunt of the Protestant/Evangelical criticism over these issues. 🙂
Lol😂 pray for me father
@@kennethruly7362 Only Levites are priests of God. Anyone else who calls themselves a priest is a liar. Plus, Jesus did away with the priesthood.
@@peterzinya1that is your opinion not the truth.
Did you forget about Melchizedek?@@peterzinya1
It feels so nice now watching Catholic content not in a state of contempt or fear. I dont know why but when I was a Protestant I would avoid Trent's content because what if he actually causes me to doubt.
As a Catechuman in the Catholic church I am do at peace noe with the Christian faith 😊
Can't serve two masters, serve Christ or the Catholic church.
Welcome back 🙏🏼
@@sammygomes7381 by serving the Church you are serving Christ, his visible body on the earth. Protestants claim to serve Christ yet abandon the Apostolic tradition and rituals and doctrines therein.
The issue with your statement is that the only time Christ mentioned this that we can see is where a person must choose to serve God or material benefit, however his Church and the service and worship therein IS serving Christ.
In scripture we see things that cannot be understood by way of simply reading the text. The scriptures do not indicate how a person sat at their tables or the significance of why Jesus washed feet, what exactly the Sanhedrin was and how it operated, what synagogues were and the tradition of the Apostles that is referred to. We find all these things outside of scripture.
What existed for the first 1000 years was a unified Church united under a Magisterium and upheld by sacred tradition. Even after the great schism between east and west that same Church still continued and it still exists today.
In the 500 years since the beginning of the reformation we have seen a great departing from almost every doctrine the reformers held, heretical ideas forming and even seeing churches founded on, 1000s of denominations forming and the entirety of Protestantism today lives in a state of disunity, division and disharmony. All of these denominations state that they simply trust the plain reading of scripture yet they disagree on baptism, how and when a person is saved, on election and predestination, the nature of God, the nature of prayer, communion, correct interpretation, end times events etc.
I’m sorry but I’ll stick with the Church 👍
The misinformation about Catholicism actually pushed me to learn the truth about it. After realizing how much slander the church has endured, it led me to believe it to be the true church. “The gates of hell” attack the Catholic Church more than any other, and they still have not prevailed against it ❤️✝️
So did you come home?
@@empackmanmueller1725 God willing I will be starting RCIA this fall 🙏🏻
@@FleurPillager
🥱🥱🥱🥱
The RCC preaches a perverted gospel and is accursed per Paul.
@@_ROMANS_116you wish it so bad huh. More like Apostle paul will rebuked protestantism especially heresies in some of protestant denominations church.
Thank you Trent. You are really one of our best catholic apologetics. Love from Indonesia. Keep up the good work. God bless you and your family.🙏
I converted to Catholicism because my Protestant family and church leaders acted like my grandmother who passed was just gone forever and we are told not to pray for her or do anything to contact her because it’s evil. I couldn’t understand this in my soul. This was clear when I tried to pay respects to my grandmother by bowing as is our custom. My pastor/Aunt tried to stop me saying I was worshipping her. I told her I was not worshiping my grandma. I just want to honor her memory and talk to her in heaven. After much prayer I decided to convert (took me years) but this was one of the biggest problems I had with Protestantism. The other was sola scriptura and sola fide. Not true!! Not even biblical. Then I found out my professors at seminary lied to me about Martin Luther. They fabricated stories about him. I can go on and on about my experience but I’m just glad I’m Catholic now.
Welcome home!❤
Thank you for honoring your Grandma. Our loved ones always remain our loved ones. Let's all pray for holy souls.
FACTS:
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intercessor.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin.
Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church.
Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.
Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers.
Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship.
Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest"
Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
Christ NEVER taught salvation is through a church.
Christ NEVER taught to pray to, or with beads!!!
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Question where can I find in scripture?
Indulgences?
Penance?
Black Pope? The Church's records tell us there were potentially three Black popes in Catholic history: Pope Victor I, who headed the church from 189-199, Pope Miltiades (311-314), and Pope Gelasius I, who was pope from 492-496
Confession booth?
Purgatory?
Baby baptism?
December 25th
Easter?
Monstrance?
Unmarried priest?
Priest drinking wine ?
Wizard hat? Mitre
Kissing of statues?
Burning incense to statues?
Sprinkle “ so called Holy Water “ on statues and people?
The use of Coptic shell decoration on baby baptism bowl?
Praying to the dead?
Please attach scripture of any Hebrew keeping SUNDAY as a holy day?
You think this is fun right you think I have nothing better to do with my life????
You think Satan cares about you? I know he hates me…. He can use his servants as vipers
Christ has given the solution….HIS WORD !
This is not personal.
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CHRISTIAN
The Greek word Χριστιανός (Christianos), meaning "follower of Christ", comes from Χριστός (Christos), meaning "anointed one",
FOLLOWERS of the TEACHINGS of Christ!!!
Written 2000 years ago! NOT my interpretation!!!
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A Christian (/ˈkrɪstʃən, -tiən/) is a person who follows or adheres to Christianity, a monotheistic Abrahamic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ.
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@@mitchellosmer1293 you have so much judgment & bitterness in you. I'll pray for you. If you truly want the answers to where it is in the bible, I suggest instead of reading your favorite affirming passages, you start on Genesis & read to Revelation. Ask the Holy Spirit to guide you to disearn scripture. It's all in there & yes I'm serious. God bless you on your journey. You'll find God is much greater then you could ever imagine & He loves you so very much.
@@joantreadway7557I come from a place of love and I personally don’t see any judgement or bitterness from that person’s comment. All I see is his/her stand with what’s written in the “Bible” - a book we all Christians should live by. The same discernment you mentioned him to have is the same discernment you need to pray for when it comes to your faith. If you’re a follower of Jesus Christ and a Bible believer, then take a firm stand on it and its teachings because it contains the word of God (not the doctrine of man). If the Catholic’s church doctrines are directly backed up by Bible, then there should be no questions about it’s religious practices. I pray that each one of us receives the true love of Christ in our hearts and accept Him as our Lord and Savior. He is God! Please study your Bible; spend more time in the word of God.
Like a typical Calvinist, Allen hates Catholicism more than he loves Jesus Christ.
Could be wrong here but I don’t think Allen is a Calvinist
@ianmiller07 he's a once saved, always saved.
@@ianmiller07not outright a Calvinist but in some of his videos he admitted on leaning towards Reformed views which are based on Calvinistic teachings.
@@AJsoment95x Ah didn’t know that. Thanks for the info
@@PatrickInCayman I gotcha. The Reformed view is typically perseverance (another form of eternal security) so I wasn’t sure if he was a Calvinist but @AJsoment95x said he leaned Reformed. Thanks for the info
My dad was Anti-Catholic and he didn't allow me to go to a Catholic Church so when I was 15 I started going to Catholic Church and soon I'm doing RCIA.
Your father tried but he can't force you not to following Satan.
@SammyGomes7381 You realize the Catholic church gave us the bible? If it was of satan you'd be a follower of satan too. :)
He will be judged keeping you from the Truth!!
@@cherylbastow1379 The Catholic church will be judged for keeping the true gospel from people.
@@sammygomes7381I'm sorry but what is the true Gospels? Didn't the Catholic faith make the modern Bible?
As a orthodox Christian, it’s very hard to respect protestants that don’t recognize Catholics or Christian and disrespect the teachings and history and theology of Catholics. I’m recognizing evangelicals talk about no division and Christianity but continue to divide if any other Christian does not think like them example Catholics and orthodox Christians
Seems one sided on your biases here.
More likely to see a Catholic talk about no one else is a Christian since they are not a part of the "one true church" compared to an evangelical who would be more likely to admit other denominations can be saved whereas differ on doctrine.
@@jherandsoleil6335Actually the answers to your questions are in the catechism of the Catholic Church, I would encourage guy to read it.
@jherandsoleil6335 I disagree. The church acknowledges that people who are not Catholic can be saved. Evangelicals? They often say that the Catholic church is satanic and is damned to hell.
@@MaaFreddy There was no question
Let’s call it misconceptions then . Anyway the way we ought to relate to our Christian brothers is explained in the catechism.
To my Protestant brothers, Where do you think you got the Bible from in the first place?? Jesus never said there is going to be a New Testament or "Read my book". Jesus didn't leave a Book behind, then what did he leave?? He left 12 Apostles and Peter, the man with the Keys. He gave them the authority to preach and baptise. There was no Bible until the 4th Century. It was the Catholic church and its Bishops who decided that there is going to be 27 books in the new testament. The Apostles didn't go around the world preaching with Bible in their hands. They taught what they learned directly from Jesus. Many of their teachings were not written down, Paul the Apostle exhorted the faithful to 'stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by our letter" (2 Thessalonians 2:15). That's the sacred Apostolic tradition the Church has, how Eucharist is Celebrated, the Sacraments. Sola Scriptura or Bible Alone is a false doctrine of Protestantism. It was never meant to be Bible Alone. That's exactly the reason why there are 45000+ denominations of Protestantism and they teach 45000 different things. No one can agree with each other. The 3 pillars on which the Church is built is: 1. The Holy Bible, 2. Magistirium (Chair of Peter, Papacy), 3. Apostolic Traditions.
There were heresies within the church even in Paul’s day from the very beginning. And different beliefs forming in the churches in different cities. To argue that oral tradition is on the same footing as scripture is absurd. We had the letters, we also have all of the Jewish Texts that affirm the New Testament when one studies. It was these very texts Paul and others used. The Bible was there just not organized of which the Lord used the church to do. Also, many of these Catholic ‘traditions’ had a clear evolution over 100’s of years. They were not consistent and many disagreed over that time. The reality is many Catholic beliefs are not scriptural and are not there until they are inputed into it by that person.
@michaelsinclairs6224 Jesus never said: "I'm going to leave you with nothing but a book. But the average person won't be able to read it for 1,800 years until literacy becomes more common. And then they're supposed to decide for themselves what it means."
Jesus said: Matthew 16:18-19
"I say to you, that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven. And whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound, even in heaven. And whatever you shall release on earth shall be released, even in heaven."
There were around 30000 books written at that time. Early Christian writings outnumbered the 27 books that would become the canon of the New Testament. The shepherds of the Church, by a process of spiritual discernment and investigation into the liturgical traditions of the Church spread throughout the world, had to draw clear lines of distinction between books that are truly inspired by God and originated in the apostolic period, and those which only claimed to have these qualities. In the first four centuries of the Church many books, such as the seven letters of Ignatius, the Letter of Clement [the fourth pope] to the Corinthians, the Didache, and The Shepherd were revered by many Christians as inspired. It was not until the Synod of Rome under Pope Damasus in A.D. 382, followed by the Councils of Hippo and Carthage, that the Catholic Church defined, albeit non-infallibly, which books made it into the New Testament and which didn't.
@@alwinstanley3062 yes, I’m aware. My point stands. And of course not he sent us a helper, His spirit with His law written upon our hearts. I’m also aware of Matthew 16 and it can be taken a few ways from the original Greek, however none of which implying what Catholic doctrine tries to input into it.
@@michaelsinclairs6224 Apostolic Father St. Ignatius of Antioch (c35-107) who was a disciple of John and Peter wrote in his letters: "Beware of the heretics. They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in His goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes!"
"Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is administered either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude of the people also be; even as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
-Letter to the Smyrnaeans, Ch 8
I was just at my former Baptist pastor’s memorial service. They quoted Hebrews and said he was in heaven cheering us on. I sat there realizing they just agreed with Catholics 😀
Catholics don’t believe that people automatically go to heaven. We do believe in judgment day, so your old pastor had to go through his judgment day.
@@femaleKCRoyalsFan Technically, you do not believe his old pastor can even make it into heaven to begin with.
@@dananderson6697 No. We hold that Protestants are in a partial communion with the Church, and that Protestants may possibly be saved. We do not assume of any soul that they are 100% in Hell.
@@EmberBright2077 ...and this is why Catholics are always complaining about "protestants" and what they say about Catholics.
You say you do not assume anything of any soul, meanwhile, your dogma explicitly states that we have to come under the Pope's authority. We have to go to confession, we have to participate in the Eucharist, and so on, which directly undermines and contradicts what you just said. That is dogma - required for salvation.
It appears for all the world that it isn't so much that "protestants" just get Catholicism wrong, as it is that Catholicism is a massive pile of garbled messages and contradictory gobbledygook that not even the Catholic can fully or consistently comprehend.
@@EmberBright2077 ...and this is why Catholics are always complaining about "protestants" and what they say about Catholics.
You say you do not assume anything of any soul - meanwhile, your dogma explicitly states that we have to come under the Pope's authority. We have to go to confession, we have to participate in the Eucharist, and so on, which directly undermines and contradicts what you just said. That is dogma - required for salvation. Worse, a very great deal of Catholics (including Trent here) would say a "protestant" isn't even allowed to participate in half of those sacraments, specifically *because* they are "protestant" and purposefully rejecting Catholic authority.
It appears for all the world that it isn't so much that "protestants" just get Catholicism wrong, as it is that Catholicism is a massive pile of garbled messages and contradictory gobbledygook that not even the Catholic can fully or consistently comprehend.
Mr Parr does one thing in his video... he says I THINK a lot , so it's all basically "his opinion".
I would like to see him explain away Eucharistic miracles.
He would say they are demonic.
So catholic theology as well , ..Their opinion on dogma and tradition
@@JoseBarajas-ke2iu how old is the church you attend . Tradition is passed on from generation to generation as is dogma. Neither is an •"I think".
Keep it up!! All holy angels and saints alive in heaven, pray for us! Jesus, I trust in you take care of everything. 🙏🙌🕊
The hand soap 🧼 😂 😅 lol
A saint is a "righteous person". They are not dead...they live in heaven.
Yes, but they are not omniscient nor omnipresent. And while they angels are Gods messengers and stewards on Earth the dead saints are not.
Been looking forward to this rebuttal since I saw this Allen Parr video show up on my homepage. It was uploaded just after I watched your debate with Gavin Ortlund on Sola Scriptura, very peculiar timing indeed.
Edit: The new setup is clean!
Thank you mr. Trent for clearing up a lot of confusion. I've been watching these types of videos and didn't know what to think. Your videos strengthen my Catholic faith and calm me down, haha! God bless!
Most welcome! Thank you for your support of the channel! -Vanessa
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I've only been Catholic for 7 years and all these protestant arguments are all the same. I thank God for opening my heart to the truth and giving me a home in the Catholic church.
Home is in Jesus and heaven, not in a institution
@@JoanneArc-or9sr of course. The Church is his bride.
Spiritual definition of church is[ faith in Christ ] Not a building or instution.
@KuleKeapau-nz2ls Yes, the Catholic church has faith in Christ. What's your point?
Faith in christ is personal. .RIGHT
As a non-catholic / orthodox Christian I find much of the differences between protestants and catholics to be disconcerting. I've never labeled myself as a protestant, and certainly never went to a Catholic Church growing up.
But lately, in the last year, God has shown much grace to me, especially when my 11 year-long addiction to sexually explicit content and immorality had been shattered overnight. Not to mention my wife's conversion from disbelief to faith in Christ (having audibly heard God's voice as she repented one evening).
The Lord Jesus has definitely moved in our lives. I don't know why, after most of my teenage life into my early adulthood I had essentially turned my back on the faith, but never renounced Christ; why He would bring me back now is not something I can answer, except be eternally grateful for. I had many convictions of sins that I felt I desperately needed to confess to God, and to my wife. This need for confession is something I can't explain, I just knew it had to be done. The weight off me once I had confessed and was forgiven by my wife is sublime, and in turn, I knew that if she could forgive me, so could the Lord. Perhaps this is a picture of why confession is so important in Catholicism, just like James 5:16 says.
I know the Scriptures keep imploring us to love sinfree lives, and that I strive for.
My faith in Jesus is what I keep clinging to, and I am honestly searching to know where He intends to lead me. My fear is becoming an apostate or heretic. These things are what keep me from fully leaning into either "denomination". I just want the truth of Christ and to be obedient to Him.
God bless you all and I would welcome prayers!
I did find it quite strange that he showed the correct definition of indulgences but then didn't quote from it and instead said that indulgences pay for sins and not temporal punishments of sin.
Praying for the dead is a sign of brotherly love.
There is nothing to lose to pray for our brothers who needs cleansing of imperfection.
Prayers should always be for the living while you can repent
@@ZenkaiSage
The Bible does not say we SHOULD NOT pray for the dead. Job prayed for his children who died. Maccabees prayed for his fallen soldiers.
The argument should not be what we should or should not do.
The argument should be whether praying for the dead is bad, evil and a sin or not.
Ancien testament, 2ème livre des Maccabées, chapitre 12, versets 38 à 45
@@justthink8952No. dead it’s over. This is deception and not biblical at all. Lord help us I was born again and now feel in trouble and I was nice and now I see this is horrible to be cast off and dark and listening to Catholics who believe THESE LIES. ITS a sad. Really and to be a grown man like this one in the video thinking HE CAN DO SOMETHING AFTER HE DEAD. Lord help this man
It’s stupid
It’s not scriptural. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. The murderer crucified with Jesus was told today you will be with me in paradise. Why? He believed and his sins were atoned for by the shedding of the lamb of Gods blood upon the altar.
Asking a saint to pray for us has nothing to do with communicating with the dead. The Saints do not talk back.
Nah 😂go to jesus directly.
Yeah, talking to the saints is not necromancy. We’re not using any voodoo to talk to them.
@@peterlee6148 I hope you have never asked another person to pray for you, otherwise you're a hypocrite
@@FleurPillager I would think that a Christian would understand that eternal life is exactly that .. eternal life. For the righteous is doesn't start after death and it doesn't end after death. Alan mentions necromancy. Asking a saint to pray for us is not necromancy. Necromancy is trying to communicate with the dead. Communication is a two-way conversation. I speak to them and expect them to engage in a conversation with me. Catholics do not engage in that. When we ask a saint to pray for us, just as we ask our friends here... the prayer we ask them to pray for us goes ONE WAY...to God in the name of the Blessed Holy Trinity. Why would we ask saint to pray for us? We usually ask a saint that has experienced what we feel we are experiencing or a saint we have something in common with to pray for us .. We pray to God. Just because we ask a Saint to pray for us doesn't mean we bypass God...but we know our prayers will usually be what we think we need, not what we truly need. The saint will pray for what we need which will bring us closer to Christ.. ..while our friends will pray for what our earthly minds want...
@@FleurPillager intercession is all over the Bible
I have no idea why you came up in my feed today, but I'm glad you did! We may agree to disagree, but I love your careful explanation of what you believe and why. So interesting and I've learned a lot!
Allan Parr is so ignorant of catholicism. At least we get his beliefs right.
No y’all don’t so try some other lie
Having been on both sides, lay Catholics are just as bad. But it's definitely the case that informed Catholics better represent Protestantism than the other way around
_Allan Parr is so ignorant of catholicism. At least we get his beliefs right._
Nothing wrong with being ignorant of pagan Catholicism, provided what you say is true about Alan, but not. But there is something wrong with Catholics being ignorant of Christianity, which they are.
@@hatkingempire6286AMEN. ITS ANOTHER CHRIST
_Allan Parr is so ignorant of catholicism. At least we get his beliefs right._
Nothing wrong with being ignorant of Catholicism and it's man made doctrines, provided what you say is true about Alan, but not. But there is something wrong with Catholics lacking knowledge of Christianity, which they are.
I don't understand why Protestants in the US are attacking Catholics, even though both believe in Jesus. In Asia, all Christians stand together and never badmouth one another despite being assaulted by non-Christians, especially Muslims. The attack on us is even more severe than we are called infidels and whatnot. Some Muslim Friday sermons are about Christians and talk through a loudspeaker.
Thanks for this video. I am a proud Catholic.
THIS. ❤
First of all this isn't new in The US. In the 1700s, it was illegal to be Catholic a lot of states. The Kl4n was actually a Protestant denomination
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin.
Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church.
Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.
Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers.
Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship.
Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest"
Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
@@mitchellosmer1293
1. *The Pope* Matt 16:18 "rock" is used as "Caphas" Is a masculine term not a term used to describe an object to mark a location. Peter/Rock/Petros?Cephas
2. *Mary's assumption* Revolution 12
3. *Intercessor* 1 Tim 2 :5 "ONE mediator" *doesn't mean* "ONLY mediator" The Greek word used here is "Heis" which means a few things (primary, first, only, abundantly, them, unity, another & some). Like the salutation "ciao" (means hello/bye) in the Italian language, the context will determine the definition. If 1 Tim 2:5 means "only" then 1 Tim 2:1 would contradict it. It means PRIMARY/ FIRST. Christ is the *Primary* mediator NOT only. We are all called to mediate and we do so when we pray for one another. Mary can pray for you and intercede on your behalf
4. *Mary is sinless* Mary was saved believe it or not. Salvation is not exclusive to the forgiveness of sins actually committed. Jude 24-25
5. *Perpetual virgin* Matt 1:25 The word "until" just says what happened till the time of Christ's birth NOT after. Unlike what our modern usage of the word would imply. Example: 2 Sam 6:23. "Michal the daughter of Saul had no children UNTIL the day of her passing".
6. *The Pope is the head of the church* on earth like the father is the HEAD of the home.
7. *Catholic church* in Antioch under St John a disciple Ignatius was ordained by Paul and appointed "ignatius of Antioch" by Peter at the end of the reign of Evodius. Before going to Rome, he wrote a letter of unity to Christians all around expounding on teachings and in a letter to the smyrnaeans, he referred to Christians as "Catholic assembly" (greek Katholikos/ universal) assembly.
8. *The Saints are alive in heaven* Where does the Bible teach that the mystical body of Christ is limited to earth?
9. *The d3ad* Deuteronomy 34:5, Moses was D3ad. And yet Jesus communicated with him and Elijah about the redemption.
10. *Sunday* the day of worship is the day of the sun. This is after the fulfillment of the mosaic law
11. *Sacrament of reconciliation* God "breathed" twice in the Bible both administering authority through the Holy sprit. He breathed upon the apostles and told the "YOU forgive them of their sins" John 20:23
This DOES NOT mean do not confession to your brethren.
Be in communion with the Holy Catholic and Apostolic church. The Church left to us by God 2,000 years ago. It will broaden your understanding of scriptural and Spoken tradition of God which are BOTH the infallible authority of the church, as they can not contradict one another.
@mitchellosmer1293 Say whatever you want or what you believe. It won't change anything about my faith in Catholicism. I received many blessings and graces for being a Catholic, more than I could ask for. I am happy and proud of my faith as a Catholic. 🥰
I wish you a great day.
Calvinism has been addressed long ago by Saint Francis de Sales, who used to live in Geneva. Unsurprisingly, no Calvinists at the time were willing to have a disputation with him in public, so he had to write a very long letter instead addressing the Calvinist sect. It has been edited and published in book format in recent times by the English title, "The Catholic Controversy".
Sincere praise and thanksgiving from New York, Trent (from a parish priest in good standing). Tremendous. Very well done, brother.
Catholicism makes you yearn for righteousness which to me is better than some protestants saying i can't lose my salvation. there is no assurance whatsoever. At least I know when I do good works, even if it doesn't contribute to my salvation, I know to some extent I know I will be with God when I die. Your faith in Christ should come with love for Christ.
I have always said Catholicism always make so much sense compared to Protestantism.
I want to explain to you why God sees our works: A lot of people claim, "Once saved, always saved." But there is something they completely forget about--the carnal nature. When we are saved, we are not automatically released from our carnal nature. We must crucify it. That's why Jesus says to take up our Cross.
A lot of people say, "Works can't get you into heaven. Only grace!" And they are correct. But grace links me up to the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is active! He wants to work for God! Just because I am linked to the Holy Spirit, that doesn't make me a self-indulgent slob. Just thinking that is blasphemy! Because I am linked with the Holy Spirit, He does His works through me! He wants to serve God, and He does it through me!
Let me share a story with you: There is a doctor trying to work on a patient. But the patient is being wheeled around by a nurse who won't let him stay put in his wheelchair. Every time the doctor tries to get to the patient, the nurse whizzes him away. The Doctor is Jesus. The Nurse is the carnal nature. And the Patient is you and I. The carnal nature always wants to be in control. The carnal nature can be tamed and can even follow rules because it wants the spotlight. It wants to feel self-righteous. But, there's one thing the carnal nature can't do: it can't be reborn. So, the patient has to look at the nurse and scream, "GET OUT! Leave me alone!" and then the doctor can get to work. The patient isn't doing a good work when he tells the nurse, "Get out!" On the contrary, he is NOT doing what the carnal nature wants.
Wouldn't it be better if the patient was connected to life support, the Holy Spirit, and the doctor can work freely? It would be far better if the patient was critical and supported by the Holy Spirit's life support, then if he was being wheeled around by the carnal nature.
New set looks great, Trent. Excellent video!
Is anyone else bothered that the Sola Fide shirt has a space before faith and then none after alone?
On the bracket? Yeah. Looks printed on and someone made a typo
I am now.
oh lol I see it
Faith has a space with it, and alone is alone.
Never thought I'll write such a sentence.
I am an editor, and, YES!
Protestant Conundrum: when they want to learn about the cstholic church, they go an read books on the church by protestants authors!!! Who "learned" from other protestants before them!!
Keep up the rebuttals. That’s how I discovered your channel and continue to be my favorite kind of videos.
Before I even get started, what's sad about Allen is Frank Turek had Jimmy Akin on recently to talk about misconceptions about Catholicism. However, Allen is now an instructor with Frank's Cross Examined Instructor academy (which I and Cameron Bertuzzi are graduates). I can't for the life of me figure out why you would have a guy like this be an instructor when he is producing this kind of content.
Thank you Trent for the useful and encouraging apologetics.,...we follow well and pray for you brother.....Love and prayers from Catholic community in Northeast India
Allen Parr is the Mike Winger of Calvinism.
This.
The Purgatory part reminded me of a story I read once of a saint who had visions of Purgatory. I can't remember who it was, but she said there were protestants in Purgatory, but they have the hardest time there because their families and friends don't pray for them.
It was st faustina
Lord Jesus said to St Maria Faustina (May 26,1938) "Tell sinners that no one shall escape My Hand; if they run away from My Merciful Heart,they will fall into My Just Hands.Tell sinners that I am always waiting for them,that I listen intently to the beating of their heart...when will it beat for Me? Write,that I am speaking to them through their remorse of conscience,through their failures and sufferings,through thunderstorms ,through the voice of the Church.And if they bring all My graces to naught,I begin to be angry with them,leaving them alone and giving them what they want." (Diary of Saint Faustina 1728).
@@tabithasunn1384deception and lies.
I’m so saddened by Allen now I couldn’t finish the video. I used to listen to him when I was Protestant and never felt his arguments against Catholicism made sense. It also breaks my heart that so many believe Catholics are not Christian’s. It seems really disingenuous of him to not investigate the teachings of the Eucharist. I discovered that without this belief, one would not even be considered a Christian back before 100 AD. I was shocked to find out what St Ignatius and others who learned from the disciples taught. It blows my mind how early church history is not being taught. At the very least, he should study history first. I’m so happy to leave Protestantism behind. His comparison of Catholics praying to saints, as necromancy just proves how sola scriptura is wrong. These people believe they get to interpret all the scriptures however they want to 😢
Amen welcome home! I pray you will discover all of the rich treasures of God's true and holy church
quote---It also breaks my heart that so many believe Catholics are not Christian’s. .. unquoet
CHRISTIAN
The Greek word Χριστιανός (Christianos), meaning "follower of Christ", comes from Χριστός (Christos), meaning "anointed one",?
a Christian is an imitator of Christ - see Luke 4:16 and John 15:10.
a Christian knows God - see 1 John 2:3
a Christian loves Christ - see John 14:15
a Christian walks in Truth - see 1 John 2:4
a Christian prepares for Heaven - see Rev 22:14
NOT MY interpretation!! it is GREEK!!!
FACTS:
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin.
Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church.
Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.
Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers.
Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship.
Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest"
Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
@@mitchellosmer1293
You think you are saying exactly right but actually, you are spitting false assumptions that never supports the Christian Faith.
How absurd these anti-Christ Protestant's unbiblical claims.
You only proved that you do not read and understand the Holy Bible at all.
The more you use hermeneutics to disprove the Doctrines of the Church, the more you will be put in shame more and the more you protest against the Church, the more you destroy your own anti-Christian beliefs.
All of your claims are completely and totally wrong at all.
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1.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT PETER IS A POPE.
Pope in Greek is πάππας (páppas) which means "father."
In 1 Corinthians 11:3, it is clear that the man is the head of the woman telling us the leadership between the fatherhood [man] and the Church [woman]. "But I want you to understand that the Head of every man is Christ, the head of a woman is her husband, and the Head of Christ is God."
It is clear that Jesus called Simon, Peter in Greek Πέτρος, Petros in John 1:42 as Christ also called as Rock (1 Cor. 10:4). As the Holy Church has been established as early as 33 AD through St. Peter as the Rock of this Church (Mat. 16:18).
"And I tell you, YOU ARE PETER, AND ON THIS ROCK I will build My Church, and the gates of Hades will not prevail against it."
Jesus Christ never said this to Himself as referring to Rock but to Peter who named by Him as "Rock" to be the father of His Holy Church as Father Jesus is.
It is clear that strongly misunderstood the Bible at all and your claim was a blatant error but purely lies and deception. Christ clearly taught implicitly that Peter was a pope.
2.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT MARY WILL GO TO HEAVEN.
Really?
The Devil told tell you that?
Your claim is highly demonic.
In Luke 1:48, "for He has looked with favor on the lowly state of His servant.
Surely from now on all generations will call me blessed,"
It is clear that Mary was a humble servant.
Can a humble servant will not go in Heaven?
Your claim is strongly against to the Word of the Lord Jesus Christ in Matthew 23:12.
"Whoever will exalt himself will be humbled and whoever will humble himself will be exalted."
Because God do not favor the proud but gives grace to the humble (James 4:6) and He crowns the humble with victory (Psalms 149:4).
The Book of Revelation 12:1 also testified that Mary is in Heaven contradictory to your anti-Christian claim.
3.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT MARY AS A MEDIATOR/INTERCESSOR.
Seriously?
Did you know that Jesus Himself asked Mary, His Mother in matters of decision and acted as a mediator or intercessor between Her Son and the Disciples?
(John 2:4-5)
"And Jesus said to her, “O woman, what have you to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.” His mother said to the servants, “Do whatever He tells you.”
Christ indeed taught Mary to be a mediator/intercessor to the Disciples according to the Holy Scripture.
4.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT MARY NEVER SINNED.
If that's so, where in the Bible that Christ said Mary sinned.
Give me the exact verse that Jesus Christ Himself taught that Mary is a sinner, and show me mentioning the sins of Mary according to the Bible.
5.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT MARY REMAIN VIRGIN.
This is the worst misunderstanding ever believed by the deceiving Protestants. This is the problem to most ignorant Protestants who do not understand the Bible and the veracity of the passages.
First of all, the Greek of "brothers" translated to as "adelphos" which means actually a general term that could both refer to biological and non-biological siblings in the ancient world. It also describes nephews, cousins, relatives, uncles, even friends. In the Greek Bible, adelphos has also used to describe the relationship of Abraham and Lot (Genesis 13:8, 14:14-16).
The Truth there is that the Bible actually mentioned multiple Mary's and those Mary's appeared in the Bible were not a single person referring to the Mother of the LORD (Luke 24:10).
The Bible claims that Mary has only one biological child (John 2:1) and none of this passage said that Mary has multiple children. It also mentioned in (Acts 1:14) that the mentioned "other women" and the brothers of Jesus Christ there were separated to the description to Mary as the Mother of Jesus.
In Mark 6:3, James and Joseph (also called as Joses) who were also called as Jesus' brothers obviously the children of [the other] Mary, not the Mother of Jesus. They were the children of other Mary (Matthew 27:56, Mark 15:40) and it never mentioned there that it refers to Mary, the Mother of Jesus Christ.
In the Bible, it mentioned that Jesus has many brothers (Luke 8:19-21, Mark 3:31-35) not biologically but religiously and spiritually. If truly Mary has other children, then why is it that in the Mark 6:3 mentioned "sisters" of Jesus Christ where it mentioned repeatedly claiming that Jesus has only brothers? It contradicts the Biblical accounts itself. Paul also described Apostle James as the brother of Jesus (Galatians 1:19), then, Mary indeed has no other biological children and remained virgin since James was the son of Zebedee (Matthew 10:2) and the brothers of Simon Peter and John. The siblings --- Simon Peter, James, and John were recognized as the sons of Zebedee and did not recognize Jesus as their brother yet prostrating before Him instead (Luke 5:8-10). If Simon, James, and John were sons of Zebedee, Mary is obviously remained virgin because Zebedee was not Mary and her husband was not named as Zebedee. In fact, St. Paul also wrote that Jesus also has more than 500 brethren (1 Corinthians 15:6). If Mary has truly other children as biological brothers of Jesus Christ, then, you only showed that the Bible itself is contradicting with each other. Therefore, Christ Jesus taught us that Mary, His Mother has remained virgin and never bore other biological children other than Jesus Christ, the Lord.
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6.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT A MERE MAN IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH.
According to the Bible, Jesus is undisputable and undeniably the Head (Colossians 1:18) and the Rock of the Church (1 Corinthians 10:4). If Jesus, the Rock made Simon as also a Rock (John 1:42), then He can also make Peter as the head of the Church like Him since the Apostles had [the Church] foundations as the LORD Jesus is the Cornerstone (Eph. 2:20), therefore, a man Peter was also the head of the Church but Christ is the Supreme Head of the whole Church. The Church Tradition upholds St. Peter as a Vicar of Christ or the substitute to Jesus Christ as a physical instrument for His Beloved Church.
He assigned Peter to stand as a leader of His Church as Jesus Christ did lead them before His Passion and is the Head of the Church.
In Matthew 16:18, it clearly states there that Christ Himself made Peter to be the head of the Church He will build like Him saying, "On this rock, I will build My Church." The Lord Jesus Christ also taught Peter feed His sheep, this is obviously leadership of His Church (John 21:15-17).
7.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT ABOUT A CHURCH NAMED CATHOLIC.
Your highly opinionated assumption is definitely wrong and always incorrect at all. Totally false.
Catholic term in Greek is "Katholikos" that was derived from the Greek roots, "Kata" means "according to/on the/throughout" and "holos" means "the whole." Meaning, Catholic/Katholikos is "according to the whole" or modernly means "universal."
Christ commanded the Disciples to make the world His disciples (Matthew 28:19). This is obviously Catholic since making the world His disciples directly means the Church since Christians are not only Disciples but also the Church.
You are completely wrong about your false claim because Christ indeed taught about the Church which was named Catholic.
8.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT WE CAN PRAY TO THE DEAD.
Christ indeed did not teach us to pray to the dead.
Who told you that the Church is praying to the dead?
Have you not read what the LORD said?
All those who believe in Him will have Eternal Life (John 3:16).
Christ is also clear that whoever believes in Him will live even though he dies (John 11:26). All physically dead saints who believes in Him are living because of their Faith in Jesus Christ, the LORD. Those saints are in coordination with the angels since their prayers are brought from the hands of the angel (Revelation 8:4). This only proves that you are unspiritual in nature. You only have the Bible and read it but you do not understand everything in it.
9.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT THE DEAD CAN HEAR OUR PRAYERS.
According to the LORD Jesus, God is not the GOD of dead but of the living (Matthew 22:32). If the dead do not hear prayers, then, how come Moses and Elijah [whom you considered as dead] appeared to Jesus and talked with them? (Matthew 17:3). You are proving more that your beliefs are not Christian at all.
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10.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT THAT YOU CAN CHANGE THE DAY OF WORSHIP.
Christ actually did.
You are pertaining to the Jewish Sabbath that Jesus was once broke.
According to Jesus, a man was not made for Sabbath but the Sabbath was made for a man (Mark 2:27) because Jesus Himself is the Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28). If Christ is the Lord of Sabbath, therefore, He has the power to change the day He willed. In fact, the LORD Jesus Christ never said that the Jewish Sabbath Day should always be Saturday because it is not the day Jesus has been worshiped by the Disciples. It was actually the day after Sabbath which definitely Sunday (Matthew 28:1, 9). Moreover, the Lord Jesus Christ gave the Church the Authority and Power to change the day as long as it has been approved at least by three or more than, GOD will grant it (Matthew 18:18-20). This is evident that the Church moved the Day of Worship from the Jewish Saturday to the Christian Sunday, the Day of the LORD's Resurrection when Jesus was worshiped by his Disciples. You are claiming something that do not align to the Words of the LORD Jesus Christ.
11.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT TO CONFESS TO A "PRIEST."
Are you sure?
The Lord is clear about confession to the priest in Matthew 18:17. In the statement, "tell it to the Church" does perfectly encourages confession to the priest since priests are also part of the Church.
So, sorry, you are completely an apostate to the Christian Faith.
12.) CHRIST NEVER TAUGHT A PRIEST CAN FORGIVE YOUR SINS.
Liar!
Christ absolutely did.
It is clear in the Holy Scriptures that Christ taught the priests to forgive sins of any men.
The Lord Jesus Christ Himself gave the Holy Church the power to forgive sins and then forgiven and if the Church retained it, those sins will be retained (John 20:22-23). The priests who are the pillars of the Church obtained such Authority to forgive sins. By this, you are opposing the Will of Jesus Christ to use the Divinely Authority given by Him to His Beloved Church.
Since you are rejecting the Words of Jesus, you are proudly showing your identity as a pure Anti-Christ because Christ never taught everything you accused to the Holy Church built by the LORD Jesus Christ.
This was very comforting for my faith. Thank you Trent. God bless you.
The sheer ignorance of Catholic teachings shown by Parr here is absolutely embarrassing. Considering you would go through the trouble of making a video about it you would think you should educate yourself about what Catholics actually believe.
how about purification true fire in Purgatory ? First Corinthians - 3 - 13,14,15
'The Catholics' is a passive aggressive way of speaking.
I spoke with a Presbyterian pastor once and everytime I used the word Catholic, he would correct me and say "Roman Catholic". Very annoying, as If he would honestly call himself Catholic in his day to day life.
@@atomicphilosophy Which was ridiculous on his part as "Roman Catholic" is reference to the Roman Rite. You should have asked him what a "Syriac Catholic" was. lol
In the internet, whenever somebody says "RCC" I automatically anticipate a room temperature IQ argument.
Protestant buisiness is threatened by the large scale exodus to ancient Church.
Honestly, as long as a person is following Christ I am happy (Protestant here).
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Following the inspired teachings of early Church fathers and martyres, thier inspired tradition is what flourished the early church.
@@banmancan1894how can you be a follower of Jesus and be protestant at the same time??
As an Anglican, I love the charity displayed by Trent. I would have expected Parr to seek dialogue with seasoned apologists before posting the video. Trent speaks with such clarity. In our Euchariistic Prayers, we say ''grant us therefore Gracious Lord to eat the flesh of your dear Son Jesus Christ...''
Most protestants don't really care about the truth, they keep themselves in their echo chamber and parrot the same things, over and over.
I can attest to that since i was one of those protestants, but one day i suddenly thought "wait... why do they badmouth Mary so much?" and started doing some research. It only took a few days to realize how dumb some protestants are (past me included lol), and now i'm Catholic.
I appreciate this guys zeal for the faith but man would it hurt him to sit down with an actual Catholic theologian to bounce his thoughts against to at least criticize us correctly? Catholicism is the largest faith in the world, and we have access to the internet, it cant be that hard to do given he walks in Christian circles.
It will greatly hurt him, apparently this is a way Parr is making money. He's not interested in scholarship and theology as it may diminish the number of people giving him money. That's why this kind of preacher is afraid to go out of their echo chamber and confront arguments with other side. He doesn't want Catholic arguments to convince any of his sheep, therefore he prefers to create made up positions to represent Catholic teachings.
As usual, Trent delivers. Always addressing the argument and providing evidence for his claims. Trent’s straightforward and evidence based videos are a huge reason for my reversion!
Saying “Sola scriptures isn’t in the Bible makes it invalid” is like saying “It doesn’t say to follow the rules in the rules”
Never heard of Allen Parr but I'm glad we have Trent to explain what the Church actually teaches.
Ask Trent what the churches teaches about Islam, then you find him in trouble😅
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@@kenid4144 Nah, Jimmy Akin responded to that in Catholic Answers
Christ NEVER taught that Peter is a pope.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary will go to heaven.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary is a mediator/intecessor.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary never sinned.
Christ NEVER taught that Mary remained virgin.
Christ NEVER Taught that a mere man is head of His church.
Christ NEVER taught about a church named Catholic.
Christ NEVER taught that we can pray to the dead.
Christ NEVER taught that the dead can hear our prayers.
Christ NEVER taught that anyone can change the day of worship.
Christ NEVER taught to confess to a "priest"
Christ NEVER Taught a priest can forgive your sins.
Why would one follow what the church teaches when they can follow what God teaches?
“This verse is clear that immediately after death people will be judged based on how they lived their lives.”
*Wearing sola fide shirt*
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😂 Yup.
My brother Trent putting in good work as always!
0:55 - "I personally don't think..."
And there we have it. Sola Scriptura = Sola Individual opinion. I'm sure glad we have *this guy* around to tell us that 2000 years of Catholic theological advancement is all completely wrong.
Good job, Trent. Documented, Compelling, Repectful and Charitable. Thank God for your talent and your work.
My listening attention shut down when Parr started talking about how he's assured of salvation and has no restrictions on anything he wants to do. It's not that I was blocking his voice out of prejudice against his view, it's because what he says is so utterly nonsensical that my mind refused to consider it. So I just went with my instinct and didn't rewind. Life is too short for such nonsense.
The NLT “translation” of Ephesians 2:8-9 is probably the most egregious mistranslation of that passage I’ve ever seen.
Hi Trent, definetely you are one of the best catholic apolegetes in the world, just as Tim and Jimmy (Karlo is still young but will be also), thanks for these podcasts and videos, they are very clear and always nail the issues at hand.
18:00 did he just equate smoking crack to texting while driving? To even suggest those two things in the same sentence is wild.
18:30
Yes he did 🤦♂️🤦♂️
It is simply unwise to smoke crack, brother. But, yeah, onto heaven you go lol
If you are addicted, your culpability may be lowered, but it's best to never use that drug because of guaranteed addiction.
I can accept smoking crack, but texting and driving is where I draw the line!
Your rebuttal videos are always on point. Charitable with the people, savage with the ideas.
Excellent video, Trent. I have recently returned to the Catholic faith, and I am currently reading your book, "The Case for Catholicism," which I am enjoying. I am a trained theologian, with two Masters degrees in theology, and discernment, prayer, returning to the Church Fathers, and the prospect of teaching theology at a Catholic school brought me back. Thank you for defending the faith.
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Amazing video Trent!
Wow right off the bat he shows so much pride by saying he knows he is a righteous person.
The devil, I mean John Calvin giving them a false sense of security with that OSAS doctrine.
@IoannesVI wow, that's a lot of pride in thinking he's not a righteous person as if you know his heart and have the authority to judge it. Both of you can be prideful at the same time.
@@ethanmiller5487 Is bearing false witness a sin? That's what he's doing in this video against catholics.
You should go watch his video on losing salvation since you think he's not a Calvinist.
@@John_Six Is this how you want others to react to your corrections?
Did I say anything about my views on his views? Where are you getting that idea?
He would probably say that any righteousness we have as Christians is "imputed" righteousness, given as a gift from Christ. I think, however, that this is a very narrow view of what it means to be righteous.
I was explaining to my grandmother (non - Catholic) about purgatory. I explained how many Protestant/Evangelical Christians believe struggle with sins or don't have a chance to ask for forgiveness and repent will make it to heaven "smoking" (I was one of those that believed that way before my conversion to a Catholic Christian). This sounds a lot like purgatory and this helped me to accept the belief in purgatory.
Where did Jesus mention purgatory? Is His blood not enough to purify us? Can one buy or pray another out of 'purgatory'? Didn't Jesus pay the full price? Don't we receive full righteousness in our faith in Jesus?
1 Corinthians 1:30
It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God-that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption.
Gal 2:16 KJV Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
@@ingridprior1337u r not answering the problem. If a born again protestant committed sin then die, where would they go? Cmonnnnnnn
@@theosteven3362"If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:9
Man I’m in the first rebuttal section and this is hard to get through. This reads like Parr is being willfully ignorant/obtuse but maybe he’s just that convinced of his false position. Immaculate heart of Mary, pray for us
Unfortunately Mary cannot pray for u
@@taffydimples Wrong, the Blessed Mother prays for me all the time. She has assisted me through her prayers many times.
I don't understand the rebut about "Praying for the Dead" at 9:44. If once dead, the fate of the person is sealed, then why pray at all for the dead? The difference with praying for a living person is obviously, his fate is not yet sealed. Can someone (preferably catholic) elaborate? Maybe it completely went over my tiny head.
I'm in the same boat on this. If their fate is sealed, there can be no more purification. It's all said and done. However if there is a period of purification then yes, I can see why prayers would be offered.
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Good job. I made a couple videos last week rebutting Allen Parr's video. I hope trent will check them out. One lady said " wow, this is the greatest video ever and you are so special!" Was that lady my mom?? Sure, but a subscriber is a subscriber lol
I just subscribed.
@@phenomenal821thank you. I'm no trent horn but I try to. Defend the faith. I've learned a lot from Trent. He is a blessing to the church.
Hey you gotta start from some where
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@@Ziiphyr That’s right!