The Best Budget LPVO | SLx 1-6x Nova
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Yeah, it's a good optic. Is it perfect? No. But the Primary Arms Nova SLx is probably the new defacto budget scope, ticking all the right boxes.
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The tech in LPVOs is advancing so quick that it's blowing my mind. Features and weight classes that would have been unobtainium 3 years ago are now in budget optics and to me that's crazy
Industrialized society for the win my dude
Still most have China shit tier glass...
@@bigredwolf6 rare industrialized society W
This is all very old tech...
I do watch the videos on gear that i have no interest in. Your videos are always well done and worth watching. The ones that do apply to me help save my time and money.
Yeah agreed; I like learning about different things even if it’s not something I’ll buy myself or have a ton of interest in.
I do the same. I like to be well rounded.
Well, not physically at least.
100% agreement. BF brings relatable humor and overall knowledge that makes it all worth watching.
I do as well.. But I am really here for the dog!
yooo same
I too own a Nova (meaning the Dog), except his name is Star. He’s a rescue, so definitely on the budget end of the Cattle Dog spectrum, but he definitely out performs his class!!
I was hoping you tried to sneak at least one Fake!Nova picture in there to see if anyone noticed lol.
Never enough Nova
Long time fan of your channel, some of the best no BS content without all the "main stream" theatrics. Always looking forward to your next video. Pease keep it coming and God bless you and Nova.
Primary arms is killing it man. The plxc is fantastic. This looks like a great budget option. And I can’t wait to see how their 5x micro prism looks
Man if this reticle was in the plxc body and glass but in a sfp 1x8 I would sell my left 🥜 for one lol
Also their 5x prism looks promising man they have this mount for a red dot to piggy back a red dot like the acog & rmr
@@starxlord9856Start selling that nut boi
Im here for the acog and elcan love - I can live with the odd transgression though.
how did you comment 5 days ago? is it a subscribestar perk?
@@SuperMrBguy yessir
@@SuperMrBguy ACOG's are just that ahead of the curve.
I thoroughly enjoy your film style and narrating over videos, rather than into the camera. plus the relaxing subtle guitar riffs. keep it up mang
Finally! Nova gets a product named after her! Good job Nova!!
Brassfacts is THE man when it comes to budget LPVO’s lol, appreciate the vid man.
Just bought this on sale (with your affiliate link) for a new receeeeeeee build! BCM 14.5 upper/Aero Precision lower.
Thanks for the awesome videos dude.
The PST might be a tad thick these days but damn they are the optic to beat in the sub $1000 range and they keep winning. That’s probably why I own 3. 😊
New Ass facts on a Friday made my whole day!!!!!!
Honestly even thoigh i wont get this scope i still love your videos, its nice to know what is what out there. It gives me more tools that i can shout out to a noob on a budget. However, after seeing 9 holes review on the PLxC, that's the optic I'm going for. I intend to get one for my 103.
Very good. Love the humor. Good job
i actually like that reticle alot. for me, a semi fudd, it feels a little less overwhelming, than many of the other options
Brass Facts, I am not even in the market for this scope, or an LPVO, but I drop by to listen for fun and always leave a like and a comment if I have the time. Just to help u out bro
My totally novice comparison between my P4Xi and Slx Nova 1-6
-Illumination is brighter on the nova. Stupid bright. Wish it came with the shake awake function though.
-Eyebox is better on the P4Xi
-Glass is a little better on the P4XI
-Mag ring is little tighter on Nova, but not overly tight like Brassfact's sample.
-The nova cost me $224 with their mil discount, that's a crazy good deal and it's an awesome scope. Wish they would make a SFP Plx model with the fiberwire reticle.
They sell the shake awake cap separate
@@austinallena I'll definitely get one when they are available
Nova!
She’s a sweet dog.
Best part of the video!
The LPVO stuff was cool too.
After being on waiting lists, finally got a hold of the Primary Arms Nova SLx. For the price that I paid, agree that it is a great value for a budget scope. Might look into upgrading the throw lever and adding the shake awake if the scope holds up well.
Thanks for the video, looks like a nice optic for the price!
I've been waiting for this one, my scope has blown me away, for the price point, nothing better to be honest. Good video 👍👍
Also threw mine in an Aero mount, awesome lightweight setup, makes my 13.7 more capable up to 600yd
Bro thank you I’ve been waiting
Good stuff as always!
Great video thank you for posting.
Came here to say this. Did research on a lot of "entry level" LPVOs to try out the concept on my GPR. Bought this optic based on this review.
After multiple "active" range trips, I'm very happy with it. The 1x performance and the weight were the absolute deal makers, and the reticle is perfect for what I ask it to do.
how is the eye relief ? would you be comfortable using it while moving & gunning ?
I’m interested in picking one up but I’m curious how it would perform in a dynamic shooting setting
I want them to lean into 1x performance more, and make a 1-4x with this reticle to add some competition to Tr24s and p4xis.
I think I'm going to buy this for deer hunting this fall for my 350 Legend. We don't shoot far on public land and the illuminated reticle helps with my disability.
Probably one of the more useful applications for this type of illuminated reticle..
Solid review. Deff makes me want to try one if I can ever get one lol
That reticle in the Burris RT-6 would be king of the budget scopes. The the only thing I really hate about my RT-6 is that reticle and cloudy Michigan day noticeable illumination. Should get a PST but it's heavy and I'm too lazy to bulk up in the gym.
@@wildtex9710 I should expand on my dislike. While shooting during the day the reticle isn't bold enough for my liking along with the illumination not being day light bright. What I would like is either a bright dot or really thick posts like the German #3 variant in the Trijicon TR24 or Leupold's Hog reticle. They're so thick that they work without needing to be illuminated. Also, if done well enough, the top of the 6'oclock post can be used for up close shooting. So, if I could redesign the RT6 reticle, I'd ditch the horse shoe and add 3 thick posts but leave the BDC because that is nice. However, my dislike of the reticle has not lead me to sell it or trade it off because in all reality is still is a very good and usable optic.
Love the dog cut shots so much
PA and Vortex also release a few months ago their mpvos, the 3-18x44. They have a similar dichotomy of difference's yet definitely less apparent than your comparison of the lpvos.
Without experience with either (meaning just the website specs) I'm looking to get the Vortex one. I have no interest in LPVOs and the old 2.5-10x routine is a bit outdated since LPVOs basically forced lower priced optics to have higher level erecters
I am actually looking for more reviews on those scopes as well.
The term "MPVO" needs to die. Why does a 3-18 need another name?
@@Longshot762x51 I believe that terms such as lpvos, mpvos, or even for rifles like Dmrs, Sprs, Gprs, Sbrs, Pdws, and etc, allow for a useful context on how that gear should be used, including the doctrine of use. Although it's not necessary or perhaps even annoying, I see it as a useful blanket term as any other.
Awesome videos!!!! Keep them coming!! What laser and white light set up are you using in this video?
I pretty rare actually lol at anything on the internet, but for some reason everytime Nova popped up on the screen I did lol. My kinda humor. And also pretty informative video.
I got mine a week ago and put it on my 14.5 noveske/bcm build. I was surprised for a budget scope.
I recommend moving up a little bit and getting the $400 Raptor option. ACSS reticle and better eye box
I have one, and it’s outstanding. I have an order in for another one.
yep... I'm mostly here for the dog
oh yeah, I guess your practical reviews are pretty good as well
I was very interested in getting one of these, but couldn’t find one so went with the Viper PST Gen II instead based on your recommendation. Hopefully these will become easier to get in the future so I can throw them on some rifles.
It’s pre-order only
Best video yet. Dog was in many scenes
LPVOs are new to me. I bought the SLX just to try this new to me technology and mounted it on a dedicated AR .22 rifle. No complaints so far and I love the reticle. I can’t remember exactly but I think it was $305 with a mount.
How do you like it on the 22? I really like the mil dot reticle so that I can swap it around easier.
I like it for what I use it for. If I wanted one for a serious defense weapon I’d pay another $1,000 and go for the PLX LPVO. I haven’t checked the weight but I think the PLX is on the heavy side especially with the free mount I got with it.
I really appreciate that the BDC is an mrad ladder first. The shoulder width thing is fast , but the mildot is just too useful. Now you get both.
The limitations of wire reticle tech bullied Dimitri into making something good
This is known as the ACSS Griffin mil concept designed 4 years ago , I originally designed it in the ACSS Griffin m2 and now in the Nova, hope this helps.
-Dimitri
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Nova is really making waves, they even named an LPVO after the pup.
Nova cracks me the hell up man, she looks and acts just like my cattledog mix Rika
I have one on pre-order for the June shipment. I got to check one out at their booth at NRA show.
I’d like to see you do a full review of the PST Gen II 1-6x. You mention it a lot but I haven’t see a full review from you. Unless I missed it.
I'm going to review your dog
Ten outta ten
Washed up shill RUclipsr. She's your crackhead gorlfriend. You're biased.
Now do a budget red dot + magnifier!
vortex micro 3x + holosun
I have a vortex 3x behind a vortex crossfire. I like it, its very light with the magnified quickly detached.
I like the tech they used to make that center dot so bright but I just personally dislike, and thus refuse to spend money on, an SFP scope. I'd love to see them combine that bright center dot with their ACSS bdc & wind/movement holds reticle in an FFP optic.
I bought one of these from Optics Planet 2 months ago and was expecting for it to never ship, I swear today i was going to call and just get a nice RDS (since wasn't expecting to get any in stock for another who knows they said, & actually took off 10% more) and guess what, it had shipped out the door. Now I was about to do a barrel swap, buy a handguard for a 12.5 and just run an RDS/Magnifier, but since I still have my 13.9" needing an optic, I'm actually hoping I like it! Plus sending back to optics planet would take around 2 more months.
Heehee the doggo pics are great. From comments I assume she is Nova? Looks like an adventurous and happy pup
yep. she's the star of the channel.
The intro picture + 14x + 10x (the outro) = 25 times total... I think the dog deserves more TV time!! ;-)
First of all thank you for the inside it was very educational and I would definitely be purchasing a Nova as I was looking for a budget lpvo that wasn't too expensive just to get my feet wet. Secondly... you should also seriously consider editing out the audio on all those gunshots if you ever make a similar video using range footage
I got a gen iv slxc 1-6 acss a few weeks ago, nice piece for the price.
A video on that spur tropical pack would be very cool.
I have not had an lpvo in quite a while, but this one peaks my interest, not sure why but it just does
I've only have a budget fixed 4x and a MPVO mildot cross reticle, as my first LPVO I hope I like it because it shipped this morning
Damn I really want to get one of these or the new 5x prism with the 12 o’clock red dot mount. Can’t decide, might end up with both setups!
You should check out the swamp fox line of LPVOs they're almost daylight bright, but the glass is a lot clearer and the price is comparable
I run a bushnell 223 lpvo vs my boy trijicon lpvo & I admit his was a bit clearer his is illuminated mine wasn’t but who shot better groups who was quicker on target me and he’s had 5-6 times more run time then me also mine never had to get zerod cause it was done by bushnell already and the warranty plans pretty sweet only other two companies I’ve looked into was vortex & primary the one your reviewing I checked out from a friend not shooting just looked through checked magnification throw and it was stifffer glass was as clear as the trijicon if not better illumination to me better and brighter waiting to see my other boys vudu but yea definitely on primary arms for rn
It's getting expensive to sell my optics and buy all new ones every time you drop a video. Plus then I have to change my personality every time my favorite youtubers upload.
rolf. Let me know when you buy this so I can drop the "lpvos are dead (again)" video
Well damn. I didn't know they were going to release a more traditional ACSS version with the fiber wire. I immediately bought one of the gen 4 1-6, but the Aurora meter version. I love it, but it is my first LPVO. I was literally going to buy a Sog MSR the day before as it went on sale. Then I saw a thread pop up on arfcom just as I was about to hit checkout about the new Gen 4 NOVa and the darklordofoptics chimed in. Figured with the 12% off sale and the discount mount, the PA would not be much more and I wouldn't have the biggest downside of the Sig. The weird ballistic reticle that doesn't easily match anything. But the Sig mount is really nice.
But I did just send mine back the other day. The Energizer battery that was in mine went critical and my illumination was weird after that. So will give an updated opinion after the new one gets here.
But I did love it. It took a bit to get it positioned just right for me. But the scope looks so much better after you take the rear cap off. I didn't understand all the comments about the super thin bezels people were saying. Then I popped it off. So much nicer.
no, as stated. you cannot have a normal reticle with fiber wire.
It will be like a standard SLx with a better 1x, but no fiber red dot bright
Great video
I can’t imagine the time that went into sitting there listening to yourself talk and inserting a Nova pic for every Nova uttered.
Thank you!
This was my first LPVO, and i really like it
Only thing I wish was better is the magnification ring not being as stiff
Not sure if it will loosen up over time or not, it being that stiff makes changing the magnification on the fly quite difficult
Thank you.
Just got the Aurora reticle version. I like that more since the bar on most of the PA scopes is big and annoying
just picked one of these up last night for 270 w tax and shipping. Looking forward to it
Thanks!
You left out the biggest nuisance flaw with the "Nova" (to me): no in-between off position on the brightness setting knob. How/why they missed that is a mystery.
I want it mostly for the fiber illum, that’s the big selling point for me.
I’ve had mine for about a solid couple of months and absolutely love it. Bright as a BITCH. Have a good deal of rounds through her and nothing but astounded by the price and what you get. Definitely the best at the moment in that price range.
You give me hope for my first LPVO, mine just shipped today
I got mime yesterday. I think you just have a stiff dial for the magnification. Mines fairly smooth
I'd love to hear your opinion on the Arken optics, I find myself drawn to them as AR optics.
I'd imagine throughout the commentary of this Video, 'Nova' the Dawg was staring at you the whole time while you talked about the 'Nova' LPVO.
Nevertheless, Appreciate the Video on this. Wish me luck in finding it (If I garner the interest).
I chuckled at every mention of Nova....lol.
Many thanks for this review. Did you have any chance to compare it with Vector optics? F.e. Continental line that uses german glass and fibre optic. Or Vortex Strike eagle? I am looking for my first LPVO 1-8 and am overwhelmed by the offering :D
Got a 1-10 vudu with prs mount for 1700 Canadian used, cut the prs mount on the bottom a bit because it wouldn’t fit the rail on my apc223, profit
one thing i learned in this video, a suppressor is basically a homing beacon under thermals/NV.
depends on the can. This one has mega thick walls.
The deadair needs like 400+ rounds to even slightly glow.
But it's a thing to consider for sure. DoD is buying suppressor wraps for this exact reason
@@BrassFacts TBF if you're firing that much to the point that your suppressor is red hot under NODs they've probably already pinpointed your location by then.
@@BrassFacts right after i posted that comment i remembered the wraps exist lol
@@danh1060we have a thinkah
Ok, after watching the video I kinda feel mad the shipped this to me before I had a chance to cancel the order. Guess I will look through it after receiving for a day or two and then if I decide on getting a RDS/magnifier and switch my setup to a 12.5 (because surrounded by wood's, I have Field's that open up to a few hundred yards or so) but I really wanted that 6x, just thought the glass would be better, then again since i may never have it out past 100 except occasionally i may trick myself into liking it. Would you run this on your go to GPR as a primary optic? Idk because kinda looks like if I drop it that wouldn't be good.
What scope mount are you using? Been going back and forth on 1.9 or 1.5. for an lpvo with nightvision
I have one of these scopes. I've taken it out to 500m with 77gr rounds out of a 14.5 BCM pin and weld setup.
Glass is pretty clear and illumination is absolutely excellent. Reticle is alright but it is a bit thick and i wish it gave me more holds. For the price its excellent though. I just wish it would have been a 1-8x and id love to see this tech in a mid tier price point like the glx series.
I wish the reticle was thinner yeah.
1-8x would probably just make it heavier with no appreciable gain imo.
The mid tier version of this exists though: the Delta Stryker. 17oz, same deal as this.
@@BrassFacts Don't forget about the Credo HX 1-6 SFP BDC. Its basically the MOA variant of the Stryker.
@@BrassFacts I'll have to look into that scope, I've heard you mention it before but never looked into it.
I could live without 8x if the reticle was just a little bit thinner. That's really my biggest complaint. Did you use a 100yard zero or a 50yard? I've been using a 100yd zero and all the holds line up when shooting on a meter range using 77gr AAC ammo EXCEPT the 500m hold. That one is a bit off with the 77s from AAC. I've heard some guys use a 50/200 zero for 77 but I haven't tried that yet.
@@BrassFacts oh wow that Delta Stryker is pretty much exactly what I have been looking for. No idea how this evaded me. Thanks a lot, I think I'ma buy one here soon.
I have a budget 16" pencil build that's running a UTG 1-8x28. W/ BG4 reticle.
For $200 including mount, I'm honestky impressed. The reticle is simple and effective, and the glass isnt bad for a $200 scope. It holds zero very well.
The illumination kind of sucks, though, and the turrets aren't great. Turret locking mechanism is a little ghetto, but is very secure when you actually tighten it down.
But... its an LPVO, and I'm already running a top dot on it. Dialing isn't something I see myself needing on a 16" LPVO rig.
If you want to save money on a training rifle,
I recommend looking at it. It's been on a 16" bushmaster in carbine length gas system ($350 for the rifle in 2018, I currently have less than $800 in the whole build, including dot, light, stock etc.) and because its a cheap build, I have spared it no mercy, and its held up to every ounce of abuse I've thrown at it.
In practice, its actually a 0.8-0.9 to 7-ish power, but I've been able to successfully take it out to 500-600 yards consistently, which is about as far as you'd take a 16" 5.56 build.
I wouldn't really consider it for a duty rifle setup... but if youre poor like I was when getting into the AR world, its definitely a good buy to get you started.
Ok Swampfox 1-10 is 20 oz and offers a real reticle with illumination option. Shop well its about $450-600. You may not need the 6-10 zoom, but Swampfox has a 1-8 at 19 oz. This seems to me not to special and possible a bad fit if looking for weight savings/performance/cost.
I already have the Steiner P4Xi (got it for like $6-- something). It seems like weight and illumination are on par. Is the 1x the same? i.e. does Nova beat the P4Xi on everything else, too. I'm looking to upgrade my Steiner to something equivalent in everything but magnification. I don't see this happening without maybe spending 2x, 3x, 4x the cost of the Steiner, and that's just to go up from 4x to even just 6x, unless the Nova...
Have. A Nova it is really nice for the $. I want a 15oz 4x version. I'd gladly she'll out 300 bucks for it all day
Would you do a look at the Aurora gen IV reticle when you get the chance. I'm torn on which poor man optic to get. The fiber wire or the chevron reticle. Just want to know if the chevron reticle is truly daylight bright or not.
Just as mine arrives today 🙃
I want to get their 1-10x SLx SFP with ACSS reticle even though your rant said 1-10x's suck. I just want to be able to reach out to 1k yards with my .308 not for precision but just be able to hit a 3 MOA or so target out that far and the extra 2x is going to make quite a difference at that 1k yard mark. I think it's a great deal for just under $500. I have a Gen 1 MD-25 and I really love the ACSS reticle over the 2 MOA dot I just wish it had shake awake but Gen 2 has it so I just need to upgrade and then it will be perfect. My MD-25 is very clear and crisp even though it's SLx glass, the chevron/horseshoe and BDC are much more precise than the 2 MOA dot, uses a knob instead of buttons so no accidentally changing your settings, has 2 night vision settings if you are cool enough to have NODS and 11 settings total and is bright enough for those super sunny days and 50k hours of battery life on setting 5 brightness. I practice out in public BLM land, so I prefer to shoot out at 100 yards and further, so I really need to get a magnifier I feel the BDC drops and wind holds will be much more easier to use under a magnifier than without one.
1-10x 24mm LPVOs are a affront to god.
Our tower of babel if you will .
@@BrassFacts like the tower, the magnification gets higher and higher....
Have you thought of something like a 2.5-10 with a piggyback rds?
3 MOA at a grand with a 1-10 ....308?
Stick around man
I have this PA 1-10x SFP scope with griffin mil ACSS reticle on a AR10 in 308 of which I was banging steel out to 695 yards yesterday!!…. There’s some caveats you need to consider:
1)the ACSS griffin IS MIL reticle and the adjustment are in MOA, so this LPVO is for strictly holdovers. No dialing in.
2) clarity at 10x is ok… but the 308 heats up the barrel (especially suppressed) giving mirage after 20+ rounds and it becomes less clear. You will need to be at 10x for the holdovers to be correct past 350 yards.
3) at 10x the Eyebox is really tight and you’ll need to position your scope closer to the stock or rear of the rifle. You’ll need to mange the 308 recoil so that you can spot your shots, if not, you’ll loose your sight picture.
Overall this LPVO is very good for a niche application such as my 308 battle rifle set up. It’s SFP at 1x allows for good usage of the illumination and horseshoe reticle for close engagement (50 yards and in) and the fish eye is not too bad at all. With a 40-50 yard zero, it’s point and shoot up to 250-300 yards at any magnification (5x-8x is best clarity to eye relief ratio)
Just my extensive real world $0.02 cents
Just realized that the doggo with a helmet, Is a RED DOG ready to play. GG
the last nova pic is how i look at my lpvo after this scope came out
Good video
Brassfacts Friday
I haven’t watched the whole video yet. I already sold my Nova I had preordered when it was first announced. I liked everything except the imagine focusing. I live in a heavily wooded environment and if I powered up I would have to adjust the focus quite a bit to get a clear imagine and then when I brought it back down to 1x it was completely out of focus again and had to be adjusted. That was my first personally owned LPVO and I just wasn’t a fan. The 1x was very good though and the image was clear through all ranges of magnification but I hated having to adjust the focus every time I changed magnifications.
What did ya get instead? I’m debating this or the viper
@@codyscorner4337 sold it and got an ACOG TA02. Definitely don’t regret.
Very interested in this scope for a budget AR. Could you also do a review of the Delta Stryker? I know you mentioned it, but would love to see a full breakdown and hear your thoughts!
Spoiler: it covers about ~97% of the difference from the PST2 to the Razor G2E, but only costs ~$300 more than the PST2 and weighs 4oz less than either of them.
@@garrettstiles7808 I wish it was readily available from major retailers
@@garrettstiles7808 Thanks for the info, I’m seriously looking at getting one soon.
@@draksia That was my thought last year but after dealing with Charles at darnfineshot I think you won't feel much desire to look for these at a big retailer. I'm just a nobody who buys a scope or three a year and he treated me like royalty.
Bought an lpvo like a week before these dropped.
Sighhhh. Might need to sell it to get one of these, mine is not day light bright and that's the only thing holding it back.
My only issue with that is, atlesst in the price range, the PA glass isn't as good.
But maybe these are better?
Hey man, nice watch
In comparison is the glass on the sig tango msr at least conperable or servicable? Bought kne recently and trying to figure out if i should feel buyers remorse for having it as a backup in case aomething happens to my pst gen 2 or if its a fit to purpose "not quite as good but will still do the job" backup for my pst gen 2
Honestly I think people get to damn picky over the “optic quality “ on cheap ass scopes .. hell I see nothing wrong with the strike eagle 1-6