Total masterpiece again. Enjoyed it so much. The old photos, history. You teach us so much. Brilliant work. Thank you so much. Love from South 🇿🇦 Africa
I’m also watching from South Africa and I honestly can’t live without this channel His voice is just particularly therapeutic I honestly won’t sleep if I don’t hear his voice after a long day
@ ridiculousspider I agree. That woman tried on so many occasions to reach out for help and to find a suitable caregiver for John,to no avail. Then,after she acted in desperation and the poor child lost his life, everyone wanted to be judgemental and call her a terrible person. I could see if she just killed her son in cold blood,or because she wanted a man who didnt want to be bothered with him,but I am leaning heavily on the belief that she was so desperately poor and couldn't bear to see her child suffer any longer because she couldn't provide for him adequately. Not that killing him was right, because it wasn't,but she was acting in desperation.
I was thinking about that too. That his life was meaningless until they could use the story to punish a woman whose life also never mattered until they could condemn her for society's failing. And honestly, this story is sadly still very relevant and its warnings still go unheeded.
This story is a heartbreaker. I can't imagine how she coped with all the losses at such a young age. You did an outstanding job of telling this story both as the public saw it and as she lived it.
Martha Harnish: I totally agree with you how well this tragic story was recounted. Brief Case, you did a brilliant job of conveying God’s view that mercy is better than judgment.
@@CashelOConnolly Why do a lot of Irish always resort to blaming the British? It's tragic what your grandparents had to endure but those tragedies happened in Britain as well and to protestants too. The Catholic church has never been as caring as they like us to believe, look at the reality of the Magdalene laundries eg. Ireland has always thought too highly of the Catholic church and it ruled them even more than the British did. Here in Liverpool back in the C19 there was a situation were some Catholic people were so poor they couldn't afford to bury their dead loved ones. They literally slept with the corpses, the church did nothing, finally it got so bad the protestant community disgusted by their predicament raised funds and arranged to have a temporary morgue built, it eventually became a church named All Souls.
@@CashelOConnolly you talk nonsence ,the death rate had nothing to do with what religion you were ,it's because there were so many fatal childhood diseases. My. Grandparents lost ,,8 out of their 12 children . 3 of them in two weeks.most of those childhood diseases no longer exist
Cases like this are so frustrating and sad. A person brought into this world, by fate, not entirely blaming her parents. Given no education, reduced to relay on finding a way in life, being looked down for what she was forced to do for a living and then denied any help from everyone. It was until she did something that caught their attention, they had anything to say about her, and killed her. Society failed her during all her life and what she did was a crime, but brought out of desperation.
@@cidb.212 ; Emma was a female and John was a male, and I see both of their death as being equally tragic, but apparently you only mourn for Emma. That smacks of sexism.
@@oldgysgt I was commenting on Emma's situation, not her death so it doesn't really qualify as "mourning". Her situation was directly related to her gender, THAT'S sexism.
This one made me cry. The system failed her utterly. It must have taken a lot to sell her own body to feed her child. And shame on the church. How immoral to turn her away like that. I don't believe she wanted to drown him. Terribly sad 😔
What a sad story! According to your research, she tried everything she could think of. This doesn’t excuse murder, but it shows just how desperate people can become. Very well done, BC!
The problem isn’t just that she murdered him it’s that she chose such a cruel and brutal way to do it . It erases a ton of the sympathy I had for her .I’ve almost drowned before the burning and pain in your chest and the panic and fear it’s horrific . She tied that little boy to a rock and tossed him in to suffer a terrible end.
What a sad tragic story my heart breaks for her and her poor little boy how uncaring those magistrates who would not let her put her little boy into care what cruel times
You are so right. It had to be so. I often see my grandmother's face and see the pain, the depression, her sadness, her hard life and know she never had the resources we have today...the knowledge...sad. So sad 😢😢😢.
And don't forget the lack of aide that Emma so desperately searched for only to be denied over and over again. I don't think this was a mental issue so much as hardship with nowhere to go for assistance. But you're right... postpartum and other mental illnesses went undiagnosed for the majority.
She wasn't heartless, she was hopeless. I can't even imagine how it would feel to be in the position of watching your child suffer and die eventually, or kill them so they don't suffer needlessly. Especially after losing so many children and having lost another by having to send her away back to Tasmania. Yes, the people at the boarding houses may have said she mistreated little John, but I seriously question if it was "mistreatment," or the lack of "being able to provide properly.". Especially as a mother who had to live as a prostitute in order to survive and live. Than they criticized her for having to revert to that last resort in order to even live?🤬 I do not condone what she did but having experienced what I have in life and seeing what others have gone through. I can sympathize with her situation. It's a lose, lose situation.😓
I was with you right up until she tied him to a rock and tossed him in the water alive to drown. It was a cruel and heartless way to take his life and he most certainly suffered . It erased all my sympathy for her tbh.
@@missyrose2154 well said and agreed. My compassion is foremost to the entirely innocent child. Victims are inexplicably forgotten by too many. Many mothers have literally died for their children. Take the woman who died of dehydration when at sea, but her child was at her breast and saved by the drops of milk she produced despite her thirsting to death. Not the only self sacrificing mother in history
@@larmondoflairallen4705 Sympathizing with a situation is not condoning someone's actions. I am glad everything is completely black and white in your little corner of space though.
Who was the more immoral, the women forced in to that type of work by sheer hunger or the authorities/religious groups that 'couldn't help the immoral women and their children'? 👹.
Sad story, for all. Little boy who didn’t have a chance to live, a young mother who could not find the help she needed, like we have today.Heartbreaking.
Thank you Brief Case!! Although I am not excusing Emma for what she did to John. I think she did have a very hard life from the loss of her babies and every single person she went to for help she hit a brick wall. This case is just a sad one.
They wouldn't help, and rather than see her child starve to death, she drowned him. Then they blamed her for their inaction. Sad. Thank you for this story. Stay safe.🤗
She literally would have had to sit there and watch him DIE, suffering for days. Is that what she was supposed to do? And I know your answer is a stupid, She could have found help. No, she couldn't.
@@lazyhomebody1356 I said, because she couldn't get help, she drowned him. They then turned on her, after she drowned him to keep him from a slow, painful death.
Such different times make it hard to judge but it’s interesting to hear the judge talk about her ‘immoral’ life - never mentioning the men who took advantage of her !!! I feel for the children who had such an awful life…..💔
You are so dense and immature not to accept the fact that men and woman are just made differently! Grow up! Men are just naturally more quick to have a roll in the hay than women, who usually need more relationship first. Just the way the genders are different. Obviously this is why a parent would be upset and claim statutory rape in the case of a daughter. But how many parents are claiming statutory rape when a 16 yr. old boy has relations with his 19 yr. old girlfriend. See how it works! Its just different and you know it. But it is immoral outside of the marriage covenant according to the bible whether its a man or a woman. But I'm just talking about people who do as they please no matter what God thinks. Men are more aggressive and easily aroused so women need to be even more careful of the situations they put themselves in.
@@Dion-rz3fz You are correct. But women have been so mistreated for so long that people do react that way. Most of my (female) friends act like guys,lol.
I can't stop thinking about that 2 yr old little boy in the water held down by a heavy stone, and the intense fear in him, drowning. One of the worst wats to die....plus, he was ill-treated in life by her. And no one helped him. I'm just in tears.
I only feel a deep pity and sadness for Emma, and I really wanna cry. She wasn’t a criminal nor a bad mother, she was just a loving and desperate (or even beyond that) mother who wanted to stop her child’s suffering and in her utter misery and loneliness - she had been left completely alone and abandoned by anyone who could, and should, have helped her - found no other choice to that but the most extreme and tragic one…which, again, she believed was the only way to free her child of his suffering….how heart-wrenching is that? R.I.P. To both child _and_ mother.
I am torn between desperate pity and absolute disgust with her! All I know is that, as is SO often the case, a little child suffered! As always, thank you B.C. for another excellent story.
@@michelekossack1861 If the child were already dead, even an adult, the means for survival are necessary. I do not see it as taboo. Plenty killed their horses to survive and other animals. Survival is a primal reaction. This woman, however, was an unfit mother and murdered her child instead of dropping him off at the Salvation Army. That is not desperate, that is selfish and cruel.
@@Sorchia56 she kept dropping her kid off to places and the police kept giving him back. The only other place she could take him to be taken care of was heaven. And no they murdered their kids to eat them during famine it happened when the soviets were doing their genocide of Ukraine and during the china "reformation yrs".
Poor desperate woman! I'm glad that now in Melbourne Australia there is more support. My mum was left a widow with 3 children under 6 .. 1960s...it wasn't easy but we had plenty of support ...so fortunate to be here!
I feel so bad for her. Has to be such a horrible way to have to survive. Thank you for telling her story. Always love seeing you post ❤️ many blessings to you and all your subscribers
While I can’t ever be ok with murdering a child, I have no patience for the anger of the people towards her either because had it not been for the crime, they would not have cared at all about that poor little boy’s existence and poverty. Society set this up just like she did and it doesn’t just happen in history or in one country. Edit for typos.
Such a sad case all the way around. I really felt bad for Emma, in those days women really didn't have a choice if their husband was deceased. She was a desperate person, not excusing the crime, however, I can see where she could feel like she had no choice. Thanks BC amazing as always
Absolutely, so tragic. It happened too often that when a womans husband died the woman would end up in poverty. It happened to a woman in 1888, forced into walking the streets at night to survive, ended up a victim of Jack the ripper.
I feel sorry for her. She tried to get help but was turned away. I believe she loved her little boy. The anguish and despair that pushed her to kill her son had to be soul crushing.
She did wrong, however, women were treated deplorable back then, and If more care facilities were available then this may not have happened. What's sad is the Church even refused to help her. Poor Emma!! Such a sad story!
Thanks for all of your hard work BC. This was a sad story all around. Why didn't she leave the child on the doorstep of the Salvation Army? Silly me, he would have just wandered off I guess. Life seemed extremely hard back then.
This truly was a horrific and heartbreaking case about, Emma Williams. She wasn't able to get any kind of help caring for her young son, church, private citizens and even her own mother. She probably out of extreme desperation felt that she would kill her son, I'm not condoning what she did but, under extreme mental stress she probably thought she was doing what she had to do. It would have been great if she could have found a childless couple who would have gladly adopted her young son. May her son, John rest in eternal peace. Great investigating of this case, as always.
I am not sure this was the best thing I could have listened to, I am 7 months pregnant and my heart breaks at this story. Poor wee child and poor mother. On a happier note baby seems to love BC voice, someone woke up
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Kinda disgusting of the Catholic Church to turn away from helping this woman and her baby just because the baby wasn’t baptized into the church. Pitiful.
Jesus was baptized at age 30 not as a baby. Where does the Catholic Church expect more from people than what’s in the Bible. Babies are only baptized so the church can collect more money. Turning away a child is heartless. A child doesn’t have enough knowledge to make spiritual decisions. Taking care of the needy children, not once did the Bible ask if they were baptized, they are CHILDREN!!
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My heart is broken once again over the sins of my church. That poor little boy, and his mother, should have received acts of charity and love, and been protected from the moment this destitute mother sought help from ANY church worthy of being called one.
It’s always amazing how people don’t get help when alive and need help but great effort and expenses are available to prosecute and imprisoned them later. It’s still true
Life back then was pure hell, especially for women and children, the malnutrition alone kepted the brain depraved of nutrients, the traumas of loss and struggles each day to find a crumb and warm bed without the usual bugs and lice, death at the end of a rope sounds wonderful to me had I lived this horrific life..
I think it would have been pretty good actually, IF you had lots of money. Because you would have had servants to do almost every dirty job you didn't want to do. From emptying and cleaning the chamber pots, to hitching up the carriage, to making your clothes, etc... etc...At that time before income tax when you made a dollar it was a dollar. So wealth really went far. Beautiful ornate mansions with full staff of servants, only the finest of tailor made clothes, and furnishings. Even most rich people now don't have the luxury of a full staff of servants. BUT, just stay healthy because they couldn't do that much for you when you got diseases no matter how much money you had. So most likely a much shorter life.
Thank you Brief Case once again you did a wonderful job on this story.It is a very sad story. That's gotta be bad ,turning to people for help just to be turned away ! It's so much more that went on in Emma's life, needless to say, that poor baby,residence complained because the baby was crying. HE WAS A BABY!
Family wouldnt help, the child's father wouldn't help, even the damn church wouldn't help but the mother is condemned. So sad for the child and mother. What became of the daughter: unknown.
AND unfortunately, no aspect of this case, is at all, uncommon. Even today. Big difference in the church BUT there are still some that are waaay quicker to help their own members.
Poor little fella, drowning is such a cruel, terrifying death. Certain areas of society like the Catholic Church had a lot to answer to as well (still does!) they didnt genuinely care about the destitute or desperate unless they fit into their 'mould'. Sad all round but murdering an infant is never the only option.
@Nikki Lauren Lol many ppl on here have said the exact same thing as I. The Catholic 'mould' I was referring to was THEY turned her away as the child wasnt baptised and therefore, they failed to extend any compassion or demonstrate any empathy. And please dont try to imply the Catholic Church were short of 'funds' as they were and are the epitome of wealth. Your final query is irrelevant as she didnt approach any other religious institution for help so we cannot know how others would have responded.
@Nikki Lauren There were not so many orphanages back then and were probably very crowded, the one run by the church turned her away as the child was not baptised.
Every person who slammed a door in her face when she was forced to ask for help is partially responsible for John's murder & Emma's execution. It wouldn't surprise me if she was majorly depressed & the depression led to her horrific decision to end John's life. It breaks my heart that women & children used to be abused & nelgected like that. And what sort of messed up person complains about a baby crying?! Absolutely no compassion! I'm glad things have improved since then.
I can’t even begin to imagine what Emma went through to get to that breaking point. I think what others around her were describing as ‘not remorseful’ or ‘cold’ with regards to little John were most likely a huge mixture of desperation, despair, hopelessness, potential post natal depression &/or psychosis, as well as the fact she never truly dealt with the loss of her babies because help like that just wasn’t available in those days (& you were told or expected to just ‘get on with it’). I can imagine how she thought things must’ve really turned a corner with her husband & the move.. only for him to sadly pass away, & for her to find out she was pregnant with a child she couldn’t support. I can’t even begin to fathom what she went through desperately trying to get help for her son, only for the people who were meant to help her the most to slam doors in her face 😔
Good evening from Malaysia, after doing the groceries and had lunch with my younger autistic brother. Now I'm waiting for dinner to come after my mom come back from a friend's house to try out a bicycle shirt nearby!
Why didn’t they take the little boy away from her, they knew she had kept leaving him with just anyone, lord only knows what the poor baby saw or what was done to him. This is heartbreaking, I’ll never understand how parents can kill their own children.
I can’t understand people hurting or killing their children. If you are going to hurt them why have them. I could only have one child before I contact cancer. I lived but I couldn’t have any more children. I love my son very much and yes he was spoiled but he was my only child so so what. My oldest sister had two kids and she treated like shit. And I use to hate that I was too young at the time to take them away and raise them. I just hate people that have kids and don’t take care of them or hurt them and for a long time I did hate my sister for they way she was towards her kids. Children are a blessing. Yes some children are evil and you have to watch for them but that’s rare.
@@meemurthelemur4811 Deja vue. That happened to me last Sunday as I was waiting. Woke up 10 minutes before it ended. Napping is great any time. Best part. Feel always energised after a nap. Cheers. Have to rewatch BC. To play the ads.
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She was a product and victim of society! Her back was against the wall with her child, she did what she thought was best...however...there were many other ways besides killing him, she could have chosen. But when everything seems hopeless, your first worst option seems to be the only one! You did it again BC! another great episode!
A victim yes, but that still does not justify murder under any circumstances, especially considering the victim was a 2 year old child. She had options, she opted not to use them.
@@redhed515 orphanage, adoption centers for unwanted children charities like the Salvation Army. If she ACTUALLY went to the Salvation Army he would have lived, the lie she told, if in reality she did it, would have saved his life Another option is to care for her son herself. As horrible as it is and as difficult as it was, persevering through difficulty is simply a much better choice than killing
@@tomspreadbury2915 I wont try to excuse what she did but orphanages back then quite often (depending on where in the world of course) didn't just take in your child if you couldn't take care of it. They were for actual orphans, so children whos parents were unknown or dead, sometimes for children of prisoners when they didn't have family to take care of them. Children were your problem and noone had the money or means to take care of them when there was a parent around. The church didn't help her because the child wasn't christened (which is the biggest wtf to me but then again not really that surprising...) the salvation army didn't help, you claiming she lied about that is beyond my understanding because if she just wanted to kill the boy she would have done so way sooner. Again, I'm not saying what she did was right but just claiming 'she should have just gotten it together and taken the help she was offered (which was none as far as we know)' sounds to me like a great misuderstanding of how life was and worked back then. Lots of women were able to pull it off, even more were not.
@@gggthsb rewatch the video. She claimed she took her son/was taking her son to the Salvation Army. She never did. She could have, but she never did. Besides my main point is that if she couldn’t find care, she should have continued to care for him herself. Obviously her situation was awful, but it doesn’t excuse murder.
Sad to say she did the only thong she believed she could do. I'm not excusing it, as there isn't an excuse for murder, but she herself was a victim in many ways. A single mother, poor and deemed immoral, hadn't a hope in heck of getting help.
Good morning BC! Pleasant surprise to see you this morning! Thank you for another great presentation! A very sad story. It sounds like Emma tried hard to live a normal life but her efforts were thwarted every step of the way. Very sad, for her, for her little boy, for all her lost children.
I don’t think what she did was right, but no one wanted to help her. Neighbors turned on her I complaining about the crying and saying she was a bad mother and even the church didn’t help her. It sounds to me as if she was at her wits end and just desperate she barely had a roof over her head not very much money and probably could barely feed her child.6 and thought no one would find him. My heart breaks for the baby that she drowned but at the same time I feel bad for her also I can only imagine what it was like back in those days with out running water and living in a house with other people complaining of the time, But she was wrong
This is a sad case of a poor woman who had no support, and no way out, so she did what she thought was the only thing to do. I put some blame on the church that refused her because he wasn't baptized, really? He was human, doesn't that count? She should not have been sentenced to death. That situation still exists today, although there are more programs to help now.
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John's life only mattered to the public and authorities after he was dead. That's tragic af.
@ ridiculousspider I agree. That woman tried on so many occasions to reach out for help and to find a suitable caregiver for John,to no avail. Then,after she acted in desperation and the poor child lost his life, everyone wanted to be judgemental and call her a terrible person. I could see if she just killed her son in cold blood,or because she wanted a man who didnt want to be bothered with him,but I am leaning heavily on the belief that she was so desperately poor and couldn't bear to see her child suffer any longer because she couldn't provide for him adequately. Not that killing him was right, because it wasn't,but she was acting in desperation.
Yup.
Still happens today unfortunately
I’m a catholic and the Catholic Church Should be ashamed to do such a thing to a mother and her child
I was thinking about that too. That his life was meaningless until they could use the story to punish a woman whose life also never mattered until they could condemn her for society's failing. And honestly, this story is sadly still very relevant and its warnings still go unheeded.
This story is a heartbreaker. I can't imagine how she coped with all the losses at such a young age. You did an outstanding job of telling this story both as the public saw it and as she lived it.
Thankyou
It sounds like she didn't cope with them very well at all.
Martha Harnish: I totally agree with you how well this tragic story was recounted. Brief Case, you did a brilliant job of conveying God’s view that mercy is better than judgment.
@@CashelOConnolly Why do a lot of Irish always resort to blaming the British? It's tragic what your grandparents had to endure but those tragedies happened in Britain as well and to protestants too. The Catholic church has never been as caring as they like us to believe, look at the reality of the Magdalene laundries eg. Ireland has always thought too highly of the Catholic church and it ruled them even more than the British did. Here in Liverpool back in the C19 there was a situation were some Catholic people were so poor they couldn't afford to bury their dead loved ones. They literally slept with the corpses, the church did nothing, finally it got so bad the protestant community disgusted by their predicament raised funds and arranged to have a temporary morgue built, it eventually became a church named All Souls.
@@CashelOConnolly you talk nonsence ,the death rate had nothing to do with what religion you were ,it's because there were so many fatal childhood diseases. My. Grandparents lost ,,8 out of their 12 children . 3 of them in two weeks.most of those childhood diseases no longer exist
Cases like this are so frustrating and sad. A person brought into this world, by fate, not entirely blaming her parents. Given no education, reduced to relay on finding a way in life, being looked down for what she was forced to do for a living and then denied any help from everyone. It was until she did something that caught their attention, they had anything to say about her, and killed her. Society failed her during all her life and what she did was a crime, but brought out of desperation.
Yes, 19th century Society failed Emma Williams, but it also failed little John Williams. Emma had very few options, but John had none.
I'm pretty sure that if men could get pregnant, and their morality was viewed in the same vent as women's, Emma would have had more favorable options.
@@cidb.212 1000%
@@cidb.212 ; Emma was a female and John was a male, and I see both of their death as being equally tragic, but apparently you only mourn for Emma. That smacks of sexism.
@@oldgysgt I was commenting on Emma's situation, not her death so it doesn't really qualify as "mourning". Her situation was directly related to her gender, THAT'S sexism.
This one made me cry. The system failed her utterly. It must have taken a lot to sell her own body to feed her child. And shame on the church. How immoral to turn her away like that. I don't believe she wanted to drown him. Terribly sad 😔
The church let her down but don't be naive ! Taking her baby's life and drowning him was her evil intent !! 🤢
What a sad story! According to your research, she tried everything she could think of. This doesn’t excuse murder, but it shows just how desperate people can become. Very well done, BC!
The problem isn’t just that she murdered him it’s that she chose such a cruel and brutal way to do it . It erases a ton of the sympathy I had for her .I’ve almost drowned before the burning and pain in your chest and the panic and fear it’s horrific . She tied that little boy to a rock and tossed him in to suffer a terrible end.
Desperate, does not excuse this evil witch mother of her infants murder !! 🤢 🥶
Tricky knowing how to feel about this one. An awful thing to do, but she certainly had the odds stacked against her
Other people coped with poverty but didnt murder children
@@laurielovett8849 Other people did not walk in the woman's shoes. If they did they would do the same including you.
@@taniabudimir3835 Do you know who can't walk a mile in anyone's shoes? Her murdered child.
Thank You M C. l dont think we can even imagine the poverty that these people lived in. It's all very sad.
What a sad tragic story my heart breaks for her and her poor little boy how uncaring those magistrates who would not let her put her little boy into care what cruel times
@@maureengillies9495 Yes Maureen they were dreadful times & Women didn't stand a chance. Love from Africa. 🐘.
@@maureengillies9495 I guess they were trying to seperate themselves from 'evil'
I always wonder how many mothers who killed their children in those days had genuine postpartum depression and or psychosis. So sad. ❤
You are so right. It had to be so. I often see my grandmother's face and see the pain, the depression, her sadness, her hard life and know she never had the resources we have today...the knowledge...sad. So sad 😢😢😢.
And don't forget the lack of aide that Emma so desperately searched for only to be denied over and over again. I don't think this was a mental issue so much as hardship with nowhere to go for assistance. But you're right... postpartum and other mental illnesses went undiagnosed for the majority.
Or lived in desperate poverty.
What kind of depression did the murdered children have as a result of...you know....being murdered by their poor, depressed mums? So sad.
It is so sad. The child never had a chance. Peace dear little John. Thanks Mr.BC for the sad but gripping tale. Hope to hear more from you soon.
She wasn't heartless, she was hopeless. I can't even imagine how it would feel to be in the position of watching your child suffer and die eventually, or kill them so they don't suffer needlessly. Especially after losing so many children and having lost another by having to send her away back to Tasmania.
Yes, the people at the boarding houses may have said she mistreated little John, but I seriously question if it was "mistreatment," or the lack of "being able to provide properly.". Especially as a mother who had to live as a prostitute in order to survive and live.
Than they criticized her for having to revert to that last resort in order to even live?🤬
I do not condone what she did but having experienced what I have in life and seeing what others have gone through. I can sympathize with her situation. It's a lose, lose situation.😓
I was with you right up until she tied him to a rock and tossed him in the water alive to drown. It was a cruel and heartless way to take his life and he most certainly suffered . It erased all my sympathy for her tbh.
@@missyrose2154 I cannot argue that at all.
@@missyrose2154 well said and agreed. My compassion is foremost to the entirely innocent child. Victims are inexplicably forgotten by too many. Many mothers have literally died for their children. Take the woman who died of dehydration when at sea, but her child was at her breast and saved by the drops of milk she produced despite her thirsting to death. Not the only self sacrificing mother in history
"I do not condone what she did"....All you did was condone what she did! LOL!
@@larmondoflairallen4705 Sympathizing with a situation is not condoning someone's actions. I am glad everything is completely black and white in your little corner of space though.
Who was the more immoral, the women forced in to that type of work by sheer hunger or the authorities/religious groups that 'couldn't help the immoral women and their children'? 👹.
Great question!
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The baby daddy.
@@TheRedsofine the husband who died of typhoid cuz of how disgusting and disease ridden the city was? Thats not how this works.
No competition the so called religious and authorities
Sad story, for all. Little boy who didn’t have a chance to live, a young mother who could not find the help she needed, like we have today.Heartbreaking.
U right,they had very little help ,fifty years ago
Theres still not much help today. Believe me. And worse now a lot of services are cut due to covid.
What help did she need to not murder her child?
There's not that much help today either
Thank you Brief Case!! Although I am not excusing Emma for what she did to John. I think she did have a very hard life from the loss of her babies and every single person she went to for help she hit a brick wall. This case is just a sad one.
Has it not occurred to you that perhaps she murdered her other babies
They wouldn't help, and rather than see her child starve to death, she drowned him. Then they blamed her for their inaction. Sad. Thank you for this story. Stay safe.🤗
She callously murdered her child. Yeah, she received no help, but @uck her, she killed her child.
She literally would have had to sit there and watch him DIE, suffering for days. Is that what she was supposed to do? And I know your answer is a stupid, She could have found help. No, she couldn't.
@@lazyhomebody1356 I said, because she couldn't get help, she drowned him. They then turned on her, after she drowned him to keep him from a slow, painful death.
@@F40PH-2CAT She didn't "callously murder her child.
@@tinaharnish I'm sorry, I was talking to the guy who replied. I obviously agree with you!
As usual the authorities take no responsibility, despite the fact that Emma was reported for being a “ bad mother”
There was no welfare back then, no government authority to take responsibility for the child.
@@janetpendlebury6808 maybe not but the church could have helped.
@@fionamacro7795 she went to the church, but they refused to help.
@@MurasakiFujiwara that is my point
@@fionamacro7795 they harm and sexually abuse kids. Why on earth would the church help her?
Awful as the crime was, I think that Emma should have had a repreive. She was pushed over the top by misery, and absolutely nobody to help her.
Poor little guy. RIP
Thanks, BC.
Amen
Such different times make it hard to judge but it’s interesting to hear the judge talk about her ‘immoral’ life - never mentioning the men who took advantage of her !!!
I feel for the children who had such an awful life…..💔
Exactly. Not to mention that baby John was conceived in marriage...
@@irena4545 Very good point
Emma was married when the baby was conceived, that is said in the video, however her husband died before the baby was born
You are so dense and immature not to accept the fact that men and woman are just made differently! Grow up! Men are just naturally more quick to have a roll in the hay than women, who usually need more relationship first. Just the way the genders are different. Obviously this is why a parent would be upset and claim statutory rape in the case of a daughter. But how many parents are claiming statutory rape when a 16 yr. old boy has relations with his 19 yr. old girlfriend. See how it works! Its just different and you know it. But it is immoral outside of the marriage covenant according to the bible whether its a man or a woman. But I'm just talking about people who do as they please no matter what God thinks. Men are more aggressive and easily aroused so women need to be even more careful of the situations they put themselves in.
@@Dion-rz3fz You are correct. But women have been so mistreated for so long that people do react that way. Most of my (female) friends act like guys,lol.
I can't stop thinking about that 2 yr old little boy in the water held down by a heavy stone, and the intense fear in him, drowning. One of the worst wats to die....plus, he was ill-treated in life by her. And no one helped him. I'm just in tears.
I only feel a deep pity and sadness for Emma, and I really wanna cry. She wasn’t a criminal nor a bad mother, she was just a loving and desperate (or even beyond that) mother who wanted to stop her child’s suffering and in her utter misery and loneliness - she had been left completely alone and abandoned by anyone who could, and should, have helped her - found no other choice to that but the most extreme and tragic one…which, again, she believed was the only way to free her child of his suffering….how heart-wrenching is that?
R.I.P. To both child _and_ mother.
Thank you for another heart-wrenching story narrated with your fine voice. A treat for my old ears, but sure pulls at my old heart. That poor girl....
Thanks for listening
The Poor child. Her neck was stretched for good reason.Maybe if more monsters suffered the same fate as this witch, there maybe less child abuse.
Hurts me to
This person couldnt get help anywhere
She should have just joined that church
I am torn between desperate pity and absolute disgust with her! All I know is that, as is SO often the case, a little child suffered!
As always, thank you B.C. for another excellent story.
Couldn’t have said it better! Poor wee one
I can't imagine hurting one of my children ! However desperate people d
Desperate people do Desperate things
@@michelekossack1861 If the child were already dead, even an adult, the means for survival are necessary. I do not see it as taboo. Plenty killed their horses to survive and other animals. Survival is a primal reaction. This woman, however, was an unfit mother and murdered her child instead of dropping him off at the Salvation Army. That is not desperate, that is selfish and cruel.
@@Sorchia56 she kept dropping her kid off to places and the police kept giving him back. The only other place she could take him to be taken care of was heaven.
And no they murdered their kids to eat them during famine it happened when the soviets were doing their genocide of Ukraine and during the china "reformation yrs".
Poor desperate woman! I'm glad that now in Melbourne Australia there is more support. My mum was left a widow with 3 children under 6 .. 1960s...it wasn't easy but we had plenty of support ...so fortunate to be here!
i really love how you also touch up on social issues of the time, i dont think i know anyone else who sounds as well researched as this channel
Thankyou
I am seriously addicted to these. Great job BC 😀
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I feel so bad for her. Has to be such a horrible way to have to survive. Thank you for telling her story. Always love seeing you post ❤️ many blessings to you and all your subscribers
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While I can’t ever be ok with murdering a child, I have no patience for the anger of the people towards her either because had it not been for the crime, they would not have cared at all about that poor little boy’s existence and poverty. Society set this up just like she did and it doesn’t just happen in history or in one country.
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Agreed. They didn't care when he lived, but they all cared oh-so-much when he was dead. Disgusting.
The primary caregiver murdered her own child. She is the primary source of evil here.
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@@elinalukaziak693 You sound like a raging leftist that can't accept reality because it contradicts your feelings.
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Such a sad case all the way around. I really felt bad for Emma, in those days women really didn't have a choice if their husband was deceased. She was a desperate person, not excusing the crime, however, I can see where she could feel like she had no choice.
Thanks BC amazing as always
Absolutely, so tragic. It happened too often that when a womans husband died the woman would end up in poverty. It happened to a woman in 1888, forced into walking the streets at night to survive, ended up a victim of Jack the ripper.
I feel sorry for her. She tried to get help but was turned away. I believe she loved her little boy. The anguish and despair that pushed her to kill her son had to be soul crushing.
She did wrong, however, women were treated deplorable back then, and If more care facilities were available then this may not have happened. What's sad is the Church even refused to help her. Poor Emma!! Such a sad story!
I know ! They wouldn't help just because the child was not baptized in the Catholic Church . I don't get it!
It’s because it’s not a church. The definition of church is people, believers on Christ. They believe on the Pope
Women are treated deporable now.
Shecould have joined that church had him baptized and got help
@@lindaarrington9397 the church should have just given help and not be disgusting hypocrites.
Thanks for all of your hard work BC. This was a sad story all around. Why didn't she leave the child on the doorstep of the Salvation Army? Silly me, he would have just wandered off I guess. Life seemed extremely hard back then.
Even with thunder and rain you, Brief Case make my Mondays bright. Thank you for all the work you do on these cases for us. 🤗❤️
Hi BC ! Thank you! Such a sad story!
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This truly was a horrific and heartbreaking case about, Emma Williams. She wasn't able to get any kind of help caring for her young son, church, private citizens and even her own mother. She probably out of extreme desperation felt that she would kill her son, I'm not condoning what she did but, under extreme mental stress she probably thought she was doing what she had to do. It would have been great if she could have found a childless couple who would have gladly adopted her young son. May her son, John rest in eternal peace. Great investigating of this case, as always.
God forbid anyone help her- so much easier to ignore or complain about her 😠 ty as always briefy
I am not sure this was the best thing I could have listened to, I am 7 months pregnant and my heart breaks at this story. Poor wee child and poor mother.
On a happier note baby seems to love BC voice, someone woke up
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Since the fate of her daughter is not known, I want to believe that she was adopted and had a normal life
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What a sad case that really shines the light on just how necessary public assistance to the poorest is.
Thank you for a case from Australia where I live
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Kinda disgusting of the Catholic Church to turn away from helping this woman and her baby just because the baby wasn’t baptized into the church. Pitiful.
And why wasn't the child baptized? Because she didn't have money. Real Christian love, right?
Because the Catholic Church doesn’t care about anyone or anything except it’s control over others.
Jesus was baptized at age 30 not as a baby. Where does the Catholic Church expect more from people than what’s in the Bible. Babies are only baptized so the church can collect more money. Turning away a child is heartless. A child doesn’t have enough knowledge to make spiritual decisions. Taking care of the needy children, not once did the Bible ask if they were baptized, they are CHILDREN!!
That's how things were done back then.
The Catholic church helps millions. You don't know what you're talking about.
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Incredibly sad for this woman and the many women who had no voice...and were forced alone to try and survive
My heart is broken once again over the sins of my church. That poor little boy, and his mother, should have received acts of charity and love, and been protected from the moment this destitute mother sought help from ANY church worthy of being called one.
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It sounds like that little boys life was misery. RIP John. Thanks Brief Case
What an extremely SAD case what's even more SAD it continues to happen TODAY..
I’m so grateful that I was born when I was, and not have to experience the existence of a working class woman back then - it must’ve been living Hell.
Thank you for all the research and detailed cases, this is a sad tale and unfortunately this still happens.
Gee Wally, the way the sad eyed hand wringers showed up after the tragedy is a lot like today.
Sure is Beav, sure is.
Heart breaking story ..some people just never get help when really needed ..so tragic
Love these damn vids, never knew how interesting these things were to me til recently.
It’s always amazing how people don’t get help when alive and need help but great effort and expenses are available to prosecute and imprisoned them later. It’s still true
Life back then was pure hell, especially for women and children, the malnutrition alone kepted the brain depraved of nutrients, the traumas of loss and struggles each day to find a crumb and warm bed without the usual bugs and lice, death at the end of a rope sounds wonderful to me had I lived this horrific life..
I think it would have been pretty good actually, IF you had lots of money. Because you would have had servants to do almost every dirty job you didn't want to do. From emptying and cleaning the chamber pots, to hitching up the carriage, to making your clothes, etc... etc...At that time before income tax when you made a dollar it was a dollar. So wealth really went far. Beautiful ornate mansions with full staff of servants, only the finest of tailor made clothes, and furnishings. Even most rich people now don't have the luxury of a full staff of servants. BUT, just stay healthy because they couldn't do that much for you when you got diseases no matter how much money you had. So most likely a much shorter life.
Thank you Brief Case once again you did a wonderful job on this story.It is a very sad story. That's gotta be bad ,turning to people for help just to be turned away ! It's so much more that went on in Emma's life, needless to say, that poor baby,residence complained because the baby was crying. HE WAS A BABY!
Family wouldnt help, the child's father wouldn't help, even the damn church wouldn't help but the mother is condemned. So sad for the child and mother. What became of the daughter: unknown.
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Thank for the early Monday morning video. Something to watch while I drink my coffee.
Love the Aussie stories 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺 gotta love the generosity and compassion of the Catholic Church
This case breaks my heart. Especially for the little boy. Wonderful job on this one.
Thankyou
AND unfortunately, no aspect of this case, is at all, uncommon. Even today.
Big difference in the church BUT there are still some that are waaay quicker to help their own members.
I always enjoy your content. It's so tragic that no one would help her until it was too late. So devastating...
Some things never change…fight for the fetus and when it’s born its on its own. Hypocritical.
I do love all the old pictures you find. They show so much history.
Just woke up and another great BC for me.
Good evening BC !!! from Western Australia! It's 7.05 pm
Such a heartbreaking story.
Ready for bed and it's a bonus as it's a story from down under, great work brief case, take care mate, thanks for your great storys as always
Poor little fella, drowning is such a cruel, terrifying death. Certain areas of society like the Catholic Church had a lot to answer to as well (still does!) they didnt genuinely care about the destitute or desperate unless they fit into their 'mould'. Sad all round but murdering an infant is never the only option.
@Nikki Lauren Lol many ppl on here have said the exact same thing as I. The Catholic 'mould' I was referring to was THEY turned her away as the child wasnt baptised and therefore, they failed to extend any compassion or demonstrate any empathy. And please dont try to imply the Catholic Church were short of 'funds' as they were and are the epitome of wealth.
Your final query is irrelevant as she didnt approach any other religious institution for help so we cannot know how others would have responded.
@Nikki Lauren There were not so many orphanages back then and were probably very crowded, the one run by the church turned her away as the child was not baptised.
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Every person who slammed a door in her face when she was forced to ask for help is partially responsible for John's murder & Emma's execution. It wouldn't surprise me if she was majorly depressed & the depression led to her horrific decision to end John's life. It breaks my heart that women & children used to be abused & nelgected like that. And what sort of messed up person complains about a baby crying?! Absolutely no compassion! I'm glad things have improved since then.
I can’t even begin to imagine what Emma went through to get to that breaking point. I think what others around her were describing as ‘not remorseful’ or ‘cold’ with regards to little John were most likely a huge mixture of desperation, despair, hopelessness, potential post natal depression &/or psychosis, as well as the fact she never truly dealt with the loss of her babies because help like that just wasn’t available in those days (& you were told or expected to just ‘get on with it’). I can imagine how she thought things must’ve really turned a corner with her husband & the move.. only for him to sadly pass away, & for her to find out she was pregnant with a child she couldn’t support. I can’t even begin to fathom what she went through desperately trying to get help for her son, only for the people who were meant to help her the most to slam doors in her face 😔
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Good morning everyone, ty bc GeForce another great story, I find myself stuck in the middle between feeling pity for her and disgust at her actions.
I love hearing these old cases so interesting and you are so good at telling us the background of the people involved this case is quite heartbreaking
Thankyou
Why didn’t they take the little boy away from her, they knew she had kept leaving him with just anyone, lord only knows what the poor baby saw or what was done to him. This is heartbreaking, I’ll never understand how parents can kill their own children.
I can’t understand people hurting or killing their children. If you are going to hurt them why have them. I could only have one child before I contact cancer. I lived but I couldn’t have any more children. I love my son very much and yes he was spoiled but he was my only child so so what. My oldest sister had two kids and she treated like shit. And I use to hate that I was too young at the time to take them away and raise them. I just hate people that have kids and don’t take care of them or hurt them and for a long time I did hate my sister for they way she was towards her kids. Children are a blessing. Yes some children are evil and you have to watch for them but that’s rare.
Thank you for another case from down under 🇦🇺 I've seen Emma's bust in the old Melbourne gaol.
Sit back as we go to Australia.
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Have to rewatch BC. To play the ads.
Society then (and even now) is enough to make you want to live in the woods as a hermit. Thanks for the presentation. A real heart breaker as usual.
RIP baby John
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She was a product and victim of society! Her back was against the wall with her child, she did what she thought was best...however...there were many other ways besides killing him, she could have chosen. But when everything seems hopeless, your first worst option seems to be the only one! You did it again BC! another great episode!
A victim yes, but that still does not justify murder under any circumstances, especially considering the victim was a 2 year old child. She had options, she opted not to use them.
@@tomspreadbury2915 What are the options you speak of?
@@redhed515 orphanage, adoption centers for unwanted children charities like the Salvation Army. If she ACTUALLY went to the Salvation Army he would have lived, the lie she told, if in reality she did it, would have saved his life
Another option is to care for her son herself. As horrible as it is and as difficult as it was, persevering through difficulty is simply a much better choice than killing
@@tomspreadbury2915 I wont try to excuse what she did but orphanages back then quite often (depending on where in the world of course) didn't just take in your child if you couldn't take care of it. They were for actual orphans, so children whos parents were unknown or dead, sometimes for children of prisoners when they didn't have family to take care of them. Children were your problem and noone had the money or means to take care of them when there was a parent around.
The church didn't help her because the child wasn't christened (which is the biggest wtf to me but then again not really that surprising...) the salvation army didn't help, you claiming she lied about that is beyond my understanding because if she just wanted to kill the boy she would have done so way sooner.
Again, I'm not saying what she did was right but just claiming 'she should have just gotten it together and taken the help she was offered (which was none as far as we know)' sounds to me like a great misuderstanding of how life was and worked back then.
Lots of women were able to pull it off, even more were not.
@@gggthsb rewatch the video. She claimed she took her son/was taking her son to the Salvation Army. She never did. She could have, but she never did.
Besides my main point is that if she couldn’t find care, she should have continued to care for him herself. Obviously her situation was awful, but it doesn’t excuse murder.
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Sad to say she did the only thong she believed she could do. I'm not excusing it, as there isn't an excuse for murder, but she herself was a victim in many ways.
A single mother, poor and deemed immoral, hadn't a hope in heck of getting help.
Good morning BC! Pleasant surprise to see you this morning! Thank you for another great presentation! A very sad story. It sounds like Emma tried hard to live a normal life but her efforts were thwarted every step of the way. Very sad, for her, for her little boy, for all her lost children.
I don’t think what she did was right, but no one wanted to help her. Neighbors turned on her I complaining about the crying and saying she was a bad mother and even the church didn’t help her. It sounds to me as if she was at her wits end and just desperate she barely had a roof over her head not very much money and probably could barely feed her child.6 and thought no one would find him.
My heart breaks for the baby that she drowned but at the same time I feel bad for her also I can only imagine what it was like back in those days with out running water and living in a house with other people complaining of the time, But she was wrong
This is a sad, sad tale. RIP little John. 🙏
This is a sad case of a poor woman who had no support, and no way out, so she did what she thought was the only thing to do. I put some blame on the church that refused her because he wasn't baptized, really? He was human, doesn't that count? She should not have been sentenced to death. That situation still exists today, although there are more programs to help now.
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