hiiii so i have a note! it was brought to my attention when talking about "diary of a mad black woman" i said brian and helen were siblings. they are actually cousins, i have seen this movie so many times and i always thought they were brother and sister.
It's weird to me how Madea doesn't have an established family tree. She's just everybody's non-specific grandmother. And the portrayal is plain creepy.
@@monilaninetynine3811 that’s so true , the only established relationship is that Madea had Cora with Mr.Brown. Other than that she’s just auntie madea
Apparently Madea has two daughters and a son, Corra is the only one to end up right apparently, and the other two kids have madea a lot of grandkids. Corra had some kids too I believe
Apparently Tyler Perry thought someone leaked details to the boondocks writers because the scene about the intense prayer circles wasn’t far off his actual practices with the actors
I use to think that the “Why did I get married?” movies were cinematic masterpieces. Then I got into my first healthy relationship as an adult. All of those couples needed either intense therapy or a divorce.
I never thought I'd see someone compare Tyler Perry's work to a Miraculous Ladybug episode, but it makes so much sense. I agree with you that the way Tyler Perry looks down to his audience like that is horrible. Even looking at how he talks about other people in the film/TV industry, he doesn't even need to be putting out work like this and looks down on other Black people in the space as well and it's frustrating. I can reconcile it with how so many of the criticisms surrounding him are shallow and led by insecure cishet men concerned that he's vaguely gay or trans but it doesn't change all the issues, many of which you laid out here. Diary of a Mad Black Woman had a lot of problems but it was at least watchable. It had substance.
like i truly do think his audience fears him. as someone who saw the potential in his earlier work what he makes now is just disappointing and his fanbase doesn’t say anything about it.
I don't watch his movies, but from other comments I've seen from people who do, he DIDN'T direct Diary of a Mad Black Woman. His next movie was the first one directed by him. So those who say Diary is one of his better movies, that's probably why lol.
I discovered his work in high school when I was writing plays for drama class. But when folks started exalting him over better, more talented creators, it left a spur taste in my mouth.
His biggest problem is he doesn't know if he wants to be a comedy writer or drama writer he's trying to do too much most producers stick to 1 genre like the horror people aren't making rom coms.... If that makes sense
Regarding the bathtub scene, if Charles was an innocent man, I would have felt really bad, but Charles treated his wife like dog💩. I've been in an abusive marriage which ultimately ended with a gun being pointed at me. If I had the same opportunity Helen had, I would've done sooo much worse. Plus the fact that Charles was still mistreating Helen while she was only trying to help him during his lowest point? Helen was justified in my book.
Yeah, Tyler Perry needs a writers room. It’s showing time and time again. Is he going to do it in the next two years? Probably not! Thank you for letting us know. I am not watching ‘Divorce In the Black’🤷🏾♂️💯
I always like telling this story whenever I get the chance but when I was in the 6th Grade, I had to do a project in Earth Science about earthquakes and one of the questions I wanted to answer was where they occurred most. At the time, Wiki Answers was still a thing and like with Wikipedia, could be edited by anyone so when I looked up my question there, I got the answer “In Tyler Perry’s butt” It’s stuck with me ever since because it was so out of pocket 😭
@@sharmindecruz9757 do you know how many black men lives have been ruined by him? It’s been almost 20 years and people still hate the actor from diary of a mad black woman just for his role.
you forgot to mention the elimination of the writer's room for Tyler Perry shows happened because of the 2008 WGA strike. so he's anti-union as well, in an industry where unions are very prominent and make working conditions manageable.
Granted with the abelism, it does make sense that this is the time she feels like she can fight back. Charles is paralyzed at this point from his neck down, Helen at this point has been with her mother and grandmother her support, who she was previously isolated from because of her abusive husband. She has renewed strength and personhood because of her new support system. We also know Charles is not only mentally and emotionally abusive, but physically so. At the start of the film and in her angry speech she tells and we see that she's underweight and he's already bigger than her and stronger than her. So she would only have this time to get revenge , emotionally and physically. There is quite a bit of nuisance tothat scene, however i do get what you're saying.
Been watching for a while now and just want to compliment you on your confidence! You’ve always had that ✨spice✨but you appear so much more comfortable on camera these days.
Great take I never understood why my family would never really critique his plays and movies like they would criticized other stuff I was interested in
the first scene in divore in the black gave a perfect example of whyyyy so many people despise the church, especially the black church. what the pastor and first lady did during that funeral was deplorable, it was gross, and hateful, and honestly demonic af....
Madea movies were basically my childhood- I remember watching his movies with my family and I still watch them to this day. Funfact, I own like.. 2 Madea movie DVDs in my house :) Madea is basically iconic, am I wrong?
I think in case two things can be true because while her character is a caricature of the fat, black matriarch and contributes to the masculization of black women, we can also appreciate her for being a character that has made us laugh and is iconic in her own way. Honestly, she almost feel like a drag act to me
Hold up! I have to give Martin credit for how he portrayed Shanaynay. That character owned a beauty salon, was not on welfare, educated, no kids and no baby daddy drama. She wasn’t “ghetto “ 😂 she was no nonsense, she was a lay-daaaay💅 😂 IYKYK
I recently discovered Tyler Perry films and I really like Why Did I Get Married and The Family That Preys but I’ve also been watching videos like this one and I appreciate it. I can see the flaws in his films. I liked Divorced in the Black but it felt like I was watching a wattpad movie. How are these characters going to the main characters hometown and back multiple times in the span of one day? It’s like an hour and a half ride. Also I was under the impression that Dallas became an asshole over time but he was like that from the beginning and everyone just puts up with it. Same with Mike from why did I get married. Everyone just accepts him and doesn’t do anything about it
17:15 Yeah, her treatment of her now disabled husband, it's just really hard to watch even now. She didn't need to make herself his caregiver, because well, she wasn't a very good one. She should have just left his ass to fend for himself. He had money, he could afford a caregiver. He probably has family. Why does she need to be put herself in the self-sacrificing, selfless Christ-like role in the film? He alienated her from her family, got all types of abusive with Helen, and basically had the audacity to throw her out of her own home because his mistress and his kid were moving in.
i like the video movie comparison i thought you were gonna go deeper into who was afraid of tyler perry and his choke hold on the industry to his infamy
omg i love your shirt 💕 where did you get it from ? and apologies in advanced if this has already been answered. btw i love your make up and whole look ✨
I supported Tyler’s plays since he was from my hometown. I went to all of the earlier movie premieres but they all became redundant. But I still supported because he was giving black actors work. His writing is one note and i heard he black balls people and he got too cocky.
I will forever hate the time my mom forced me to watch the fucking plays with her. I can take bad comedy movies. But a bad comedy PLAY is so much worse in every way.
I don't think Tyler should ever set foot in a writer's room again. Point, blank, period. Because if you watched or even heard of the BET drama All the Queen's Men, he wrote the entirety of season 2 and 3. And let me just say, it is some of the worst television you'll see in your life.
last time i checked, madea is helen's grandma, is she not? and my apologies for not making it clear enough when i was talking about orlando and charles, i thought i did but i guess i got mixed up
i tried to watch this video but the music in the background is so distracting that i just cannot listen to anything you are saying. i would recommend u think about not doing this in the future because you are alienating some people with disabilities like mine from paying attention to your content.
What is he exactly doing for us?! He doesn't hire any black people in positions of power behind the scenes. He has spoken down to several of his black leading actresses in private and public. He doesn't hire any other black creative, leading into more jobs and opportunities for black people in the film and television industry. Atlanta, having more black businesses is great. However, I don't know either way. If Tyler's studio can claim responsibility for contributing.
What is he exactly doing for us?! He doesn't hire any black people in positions of power behind the scenes. He has spoken down to several of his leading black actresses, in public and private!
What is he exactly doing for us?! He doesn't hire any black people in positions of power behind the scenes. He has spoken down to several of his leading black actresses in public and private.
@@chrisreed3227 the only thing Tyler Perry is doing for black people is gatekeeping an industry. he could give young black filmmakers an opportunity to work in above-the-line production positions but he insists on doing everything himself. film and television are team efforts and he keeps his teams as small as possible on purpose
If that’s why your afraid of him then you got bigger fish to fry. Madea was ghetto comedy gold before the shtick got old. What you need to be afraid of are his recent controversies with Oprah.
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hiiii so i have a note! it was brought to my attention when talking about "diary of a mad black woman" i said brian and helen were siblings. they are actually cousins, i have seen this movie so many times and i always thought they were brother and sister.
@@harriyanna I’m glad you didn’t bring up religion. Christianity is poison to the black community and this planet
It's weird to me how Madea doesn't have an established family tree. She's just everybody's non-specific grandmother. And the portrayal is plain creepy.
@@monilaninetynine3811 that’s so true , the only established relationship is that Madea had Cora with Mr.Brown. Other than that she’s just auntie madea
Apparently Madea has two daughters and a son, Corra is the only one to end up right apparently, and the other two kids have madea a lot of grandkids. Corra had some kids too I believe
When you mentioned that Tyler Perry is the only person in the writers' room, it makes sense that you say that the scripts feel like a first draft.
He is and he needs to change that. ASAP😒!
TRUE
Madea movies were pretty much ALWAYS playing whenever I went to get my hair braided.
Or whenever I got a haircut at the barber
Apparently Tyler Perry thought someone leaked details to the boondocks writers because the scene about the intense prayer circles wasn’t far off his actual practices with the actors
@@ladygrey4113 EMBARRASSING
@@Shalondria can’t link but it was on RUclips with one of the writers
Someone did leak it 😂😂😂 and he was pissed
It's always gonna be someone in Hollywood spying and black mailing. That's how TMZ and other elites get gossip.😂
I use to think that the “Why did I get married?” movies were cinematic masterpieces. Then I got into my first healthy relationship as an adult. All of those couples needed either intense therapy or a divorce.
I never thought I'd see someone compare Tyler Perry's work to a Miraculous Ladybug episode, but it makes so much sense. I agree with you that the way Tyler Perry looks down to his audience like that is horrible. Even looking at how he talks about other people in the film/TV industry, he doesn't even need to be putting out work like this and looks down on other Black people in the space as well and it's frustrating.
I can reconcile it with how so many of the criticisms surrounding him are shallow and led by insecure cishet men concerned that he's vaguely gay or trans but it doesn't change all the issues, many of which you laid out here.
Diary of a Mad Black Woman had a lot of problems but it was at least watchable. It had substance.
like i truly do think his audience fears him. as someone who saw the potential in his earlier work what he makes now is just disappointing and his fanbase doesn’t say anything about it.
I don't watch his movies, but from other comments I've seen from people who do, he DIDN'T direct Diary of a Mad Black Woman. His next movie was the first one directed by him. So those who say Diary is one of his better movies, that's probably why lol.
My grandma loved the plays. I used to like it when I was younger but as I get older and become more of a woman i just find it insulting
I discovered his work in high school when I was writing plays for drama class. But when folks started exalting him over better, more talented creators, it left a spur taste in my mouth.
@@m.d.1395 why?
The boondocks joke summary of every “Winston Jerome” movie ever is pretty on point of trends he gravitates to
*"WITH THIS RACIALLY AMBIGUOUS LIGHT BRIGHT"*
I love Tyler Perry’s old plays and movies. You can tell he’s getting a little careless with his new projects.
yea the new works have such little care put into them
His biggest problem is he doesn't know if he wants to be a comedy writer or drama writer he's trying to do too much most producers stick to 1 genre like the horror people aren't making rom coms.... If that makes sense
Tyler Perry plays had my Mom in a chokehold back in the “DVD man” era lmao. I was collateral damage lol.
The Death Note music playing makes the video sound suspenseful.
Regarding the bathtub scene, if Charles was an innocent man, I would have felt really bad, but Charles treated his wife like dog💩. I've been in an abusive marriage which ultimately ended with a gun being pointed at me. If I had the same opportunity Helen had, I would've done sooo much worse. Plus the fact that Charles was still mistreating Helen while she was only trying to help him during his lowest point? Helen was justified in my book.
I got whiplash when I heard "So Random"... then COMPLETELY lost my shii at "Y'all got pasta and lobster!"
they do server pasta and lobster there!!
Yeah, Tyler Perry needs a writers room. It’s showing time and time again. Is he going to do it in the next two years? Probably not! Thank you for letting us know. I am not watching ‘Divorce In the Black’🤷🏾♂️💯
Ooooow I’m so glad you uploaded a video! I was bored af!😭💚🔥 And it’s an hour!🙌🏾🙌🏾
lol im glad i was able to give you some entertainment
I’m afraid of how much my mom watches his movies
Everybody be calling that man Tia's Ex husband
I always like telling this story whenever I get the chance but when I was in the 6th Grade, I had to do a project in Earth Science about earthquakes and one of the questions I wanted to answer was where they occurred most. At the time, Wiki Answers was still a thing and like with Wikipedia, could be edited by anyone so when I looked up my question there, I got the answer “In Tyler Perry’s butt”
It’s stuck with me ever since because it was so out of pocket 😭
Well, Harri, I made it. I'll edit this when the video ends
Everytime I heard the word perry, I thought of perry the platypus
Title: Who's afraid of Tyler Perry? Me: Every black dude.
LMAOOOOOOOO! You gotta point😂😭😂!
@@princemingy8860 why you afraid of tyler perry? Serious question.
@@sharmindecruz9757 do you know how many black men lives have been ruined by him? It’s been almost 20 years and people still hate the actor from diary of a mad black woman just for his role.
we are all afraid of tyler perry.
Grabbing my popcorn for this one!
Charles was a smart street boy turned D boy lawyer who happened to work in big law
Captain Hook we need a makeup tutorial
He made a kid show one time and I got in trouble for having it on in the background 💀
Madea is suppose to Helen's Grandmother but looks a hell of lot younger than Helen's mother.
Why Did I Get Married isn't a cinematic masterpiece but it is very much entertaining lol
Because Medea is f****ing crazy thats why the acting is so diff
Plus size people get dogged because no one wants to help.
Afraid of Tyler Perry??? Not I
thanks for the deep dive! love to hear your thoughts. also this look is a slay omg
thank you so much!
you forgot to mention the elimination of the writer's room for Tyler Perry shows happened because of the 2008 WGA strike. so he's anti-union as well, in an industry where unions are very prominent and make working conditions manageable.
Granted with the abelism, it does make sense that this is the time she feels like she can fight back. Charles is paralyzed at this point from his neck down, Helen at this point has been with her mother and grandmother her support, who she was previously isolated from because of her abusive husband. She has renewed strength and personhood because of her new support system. We also know Charles is not only mentally and emotionally abusive, but physically so. At the start of the film and in her angry speech she tells and we see that she's underweight and he's already bigger than her and stronger than her. So she would only have this time to get revenge , emotionally and physically. There is quite a bit of nuisance tothat scene, however i do get what you're saying.
yea more it was more so of a concern because of what i have seen tyler perry do in his others works. it's complicated.
I looooove that you "stole" (I would rather say inspired!) the contributions page from PBS lol. Brings back good memories ❤
Been watching for a while now and just want to compliment you on your confidence!
You’ve always had that ✨spice✨but you appear so much more comfortable on camera these days.
thank you so much 💙💙💙
Great take I never understood why my family would never really critique his plays and movies like they would criticized other stuff I was interested in
the first scene in divore in the black gave a perfect example of whyyyy so many people despise the church, especially the black church. what the pastor and first lady did during that funeral was deplorable, it was gross, and hateful, and honestly demonic af....
Madea movies were basically my childhood- I remember watching his movies with my family and I still watch them to this day.
Funfact, I own like.. 2 Madea movie DVDs in my house :)
Madea is basically iconic, am I wrong?
I think in case two things can be true because while her character is a caricature of the fat, black matriarch and contributes to the masculization of black women, we can also appreciate her for being a character that has made us laugh and is iconic in her own way. Honestly, she almost feel like a drag act to me
@@TallulahChanel real
Lookin delicious wit them Afro puffs 🤤😋
Hold up! I have to give Martin credit for how he portrayed Shanaynay. That character owned a beauty salon, was not on welfare, educated, no kids and no baby daddy drama. She wasn’t “ghetto “ 😂 she was no nonsense, she was a lay-daaaay💅 😂 IYKYK
I recently discovered Tyler Perry films and I really like Why Did I Get Married and The Family That Preys but I’ve also been watching videos like this one and I appreciate it. I can see the flaws in his films. I liked Divorced in the Black but it felt like I was watching a wattpad movie. How are these characters going to the main characters hometown and back multiple times in the span of one day? It’s like an hour and a half ride. Also I was under the impression that Dallas became an asshole over time but he was like that from the beginning and everyone just puts up with it. Same with Mike from why did I get married. Everyone just accepts him and doesn’t do anything about it
1:39 ggggggggggiiiirrrrllll INSTANT subscriber! 😂😂❤❤
17:15 Yeah, her treatment of her now disabled husband, it's just really hard to watch even now. She didn't need to make herself his caregiver, because well, she wasn't a very good one. She should have just left his ass to fend for himself. He had money, he could afford a caregiver. He probably has family. Why does she need to be put herself in the self-sacrificing, selfless Christ-like role in the film? He alienated her from her family, got all types of abusive with Helen, and basically had the audacity to throw her out of her own home because his mistress and his kid were moving in.
I thought this was a video from Kayla Says because of the title 😭
lol i got the title idea from her!
Thats crazy the only thing i know about Taylor perry is that he's a zionist. 😅
Oh lord, that's horrible. Another reason to dislike Tyler Perry for me.
But I remember seeing his name everywhere
The only Tyler Perry movie that I enjoy is Madea's Big Happy Family.
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i like the video movie comparison i thought you were gonna go deeper into who was afraid of tyler perry and his choke hold on the industry to his infamy
omg i love your shirt 💕 where did you get it from ? and apologies in advanced if this has already been answered. btw i love your make up and whole look ✨
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Shenene isn't even the most problematic character on Martin its big shirley.
@easiersaidwithmeg dang, you're right. However, I do think shenene was more negatively impactful because "she" was actually seen on screen.
The kids in his basement are scared of him.
😂😅
I supported Tyler’s plays since he was from my hometown. I went to all of the earlier movie premieres but they all became redundant.
But I still supported because he was giving black actors work. His writing is one note and i heard he black balls people and he got too cocky.
I will forever hate the time my mom forced me to watch the fucking plays with her.
I can take bad comedy movies. But a bad comedy PLAY is so much worse in every way.
I don't think Tyler should ever set foot in a writer's room again. Point, blank, period.
Because if you watched or even heard of the BET drama All the Queen's Men, he wrote the entirety of season 2 and 3. And let me just say, it is some of the worst television you'll see in your life.
Im kinda confused. Charles keeps getting mistaken for Orlando and Madea is being called the grandma when shes her aunt
last time i checked, madea is helen's grandma, is she not? and my apologies for not making it clear enough when i was talking about orlando and charles, i thought i did but i guess i got mixed up
like in the movie helen even said she was her granddaughter
i tried to watch this video but the music in the background is so distracting that i just cannot listen to anything you are saying. i would recommend u think about not doing this in the future because you are alienating some people with disabilities like mine from paying attention to your content.
lmfao why do you say hey 15 times?
The only Tyler Perry movie I liked was Madea's Witness Protection.
To answer the question of the title of the video, light-skinned menz & probably pretty red dimes like Mr. Simone Biles.
Well you got to think black people in Atlanta and Savannah Georgia is doing it good there are more black businesses in Atlanta
What is he exactly doing for us?! He doesn't hire any black people in positions of power behind the scenes. He has spoken down to several of his black leading actresses in private and public. He doesn't hire any other black creative, leading into more jobs and opportunities for black people in the film and television industry. Atlanta, having more black businesses is great. However, I don't know either way. If Tyler's studio can claim responsibility for contributing.
But you got to think about what he's doing for the future of black people remember Oprah help him
What is he exactly doing for us?! He doesn't hire any black people in positions of power behind the scenes. He has spoken down to several of his leading black actresses, in public and private!
What is he exactly doing for us?! He doesn't hire any black people in positions of power behind the scenes. He has spoken down to several of his leading black actresses in public and private.
@@chrisreed3227 the only thing Tyler Perry is doing for black people is gatekeeping an industry. he could give young black filmmakers an opportunity to work in above-the-line production positions but he insists on doing everything himself. film and television are team efforts and he keeps his teams as small as possible on purpose
Brian and Helen were cousins.
thank you for clearing up!
…you say “literally” entirely too much .
and what about it
I'm afraid of tyler perry. He's willing to dress as a granny on halloween, that's all i need to be afraid of him.
If that’s why your afraid of him then you got bigger fish to fry. Madea was ghetto comedy gold before the shtick got old. What you need to be afraid of are his recent controversies with Oprah.
@@BozeDoesGodsWork you did not get the joke and i will not explain it because it ruins it. All i'm going to say is fear randy.