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paypal have beeen involved in other dofgy stuff too even withelding money over free speech , long story short working with facebook etc its complicated but it went to court
Especially since its target market were outdoorsy and would want to use it where even keeping a Bluetooth signal would be dicey, let alone a Wi-Fi connection.
No kidding. Ignoring the security concerns, not all wifi connections are created equal, and even good wifi can be disrupted by environmental factors, let alone bad wifi. If there isn't at least an option for offline local Bluetooth or RF connection to use when wifi isn't available, or even better, if that's not the default option with wifi connectivity for cloud syncing being the secondary option, then I'm going to have to think long and hard about what the tech is promising to do versus what it can deliver and/or what the developers are doing without our knowledge.
Yeah, some of it's traits probably should have required a separate battery-powered processing unit (which would have been a better place for the SD card holder...), but only the most advanced features should have needed an internet connection.
Sorry, but that's crap. I, for instance, got a peacemaker implanted which has to always be connected to the manufacturer's cloud service. What can I say - it's been working without any prob--------------..........
Electrolytic plating line operator here, our company manufactured a lot of these PCBs. I remember plating loads of them. First runs we sent out had various solder mask colours, noting which revision of prototype they were. I think it was white first, then black, then red & some blue. We even had to tell them that what they were asking for wasn't achievable with their design of the PCBs the way they were...whole thing was a farce, the company got all the money back through insurance...
For another massive kickstarter fail for drones the FPV Lunchbox. It shipped late with the main feature not working properly. They stole a mod I made and claimed they worked months on getting the software working. Eventually the guy just disappeared from the community.
I started getting into racing drones not long before that was announced, so was in the middle of my typically obsessive learning for new hobbies, so yeah I knew early on how far their claims were from reality.
Their "good intentions" are equally bullshit when the two creators bought BMW's before they had a functioning product and stole attention away from actual functioning products (seriously, people, you'd rather throw money at a product that hasn't even been seen functioning at the one event meant to show off tech goods, just because of what the creators CLAIM it can do, rather than actual, functioning drones at CES? 🤦🏾♀️). To the ones who bought the shambles of Zano and actually had a functioning product from the start, you go, guys! It's the perfect middle finger. I wouldn't even do anything with the Zano name, except to maybe put it on blast of its utter failure. But having the name keeps it from being able to be used again, which means having to rebrand if they want to run another scam.
Yeah I get he said it sounds like the Extreme Flyers team gave Zano the middle finger by buying their share at the end and making working drones with lower specs that were more based in reality of what could be accomplished in such a small package but them losing that event that year to something that was just making promises was a much bigger middle finger. Especially when they had the technical knowhow to understand that what they were promising was most likely bullshit for what was possible vs gravity with a flying gadget. That would have been such a huge boost for their company to win that year but it's hard to tell what else was at the expo too. They could have still lost to something else I mean it isn't like it was said they got 2nd place but winning would've been so much good publicity for a company that understood how flying things worked.
You didnt mention the fact that they dragged a Suspercomputer to Ireland to develop the interconnection data, and when the company went tits up, they just left ikt behind in the offices, still plugged in, blinking away.
I always love watching these sort of things just to see how ridiculous the claims can get and how unrealistic they are but still receive multiple times their requested goals yet still deliver nothing
@@operator8014 I mean if the Xbox was a scam this would make sense. I think a $250 console that plays 1440p60fps and $15 a month for gamepass is a pretty good deal
Movie Tech Creation: In the two years between the first and second Iron Man films, Tony Stark managed to go from building a crude weaponized suit of armour in a cave to having a fully fledged robotic version that could fold up into a briefcase. Real Life Tech Creation: Three years to make widdle dwone Also; Always connected to a server? If these things were pitched a few years later they woulda used the word "blockchain" instead haha.
The more videos like these I watch the more I realize that a lot of the blame for these failures come from external agents that behave in bullsh*t ways. From Paypal's _"We won't give you the money until you deliver the product even though you need the money to deliver the product"_ nonsense to a goodamn tech show giving the award to the people with _no working prototype._ I mean, freaking hell, I guess I can just show up to any of those shows with a metal box full of random cables and screws, claim it's a portable holodeck and they'll just give me the prize.
They didn’t know what they were doing and probably shouldn’t have tried in the first place. The lying puts them in the Amico category, which isn’t a good place to be.
They needed to learn to walk before jumping off the cliff. If they would have started with a simpler but decent model just to make sure their programming and design was viable then they would have had both the capital and experience to move on to their more complex designs with less stress. They basically jumped into the deep end and drowned because they thought they could swim but couldn't.
I saw the title and thought you would be talking about the Lily drone. That one would be worth a video! It never shipped and the original campaign video was faked.
Oh that's what that is. I saw the offspring logo but couldn't quite tell what it was, granted I'm watching this video at 240/360P cause my internet is awful.
While I'm sure (or at least I _hope)_ there were strict safety guidelines and restrictions in place for that, I do agree that flying footage felt uncomfortably dangerous.
Maybe not, but I'd want to still see a drone hover above the crowds and zip back and forth above everyone. If you can't showcase what it can do, then bringing it to a tech show is pointless.
In some countries, people in that convention could actually sue the operator for endangering their health. Unless they had to sign a paper that they consent to drones flying over them to be able to enter the convention, which, for a drone convention, would likely be the case.
"Kickstarter had to hire investigators to determine if this project was a scam. Was it?" Title of the video and thumbnail call it a scam in a series called Kickscammers. "I'm not gonna tell you yet!" Yeah, you got us on the edge of our seats on that one.
Anyone who has ever flown a cheap, small drone knows this thing was impossible. The footage they showed as coming from the drone was so obviously faked with a shaky hand-cam or from a much larger/higher quality unit. 😆
Well, the original footage was blatantly faked, proving they never had a working prototype, which is required when you open a technology project on Kickstarter. So regardless of the company's intentions, it absolutely was a scam, they lied that they could do something they were just hoping they'd someday figure out. They didn't intend to steal people's money, sure, but they went into it unable to fulfill the promises they were making and just crossing their fingers and hoping with the money they'd get it done so no one would figure it out. This is one of those cases where intention really isn't as important as what they did, and they DID lie about what they had and could do.
It just goes to show that CES accolades mean nothing since you can just talk about a product with no working demo and win best of show. Meanwhile the competitor had a working unit and was dismissed. Shame.
I always love the excuses companies give for the problems with their product to attempt at a positive pr comment. If the reasons for not flying the drone at the show being military related then why is it even being shown to the average consumer to be sold? Don't military tech usually get shown to the government officials in charge of military contracts only? Honestly asking. And I love how EF got the last laugh. EF might actually use the failed Zano drone campaign as a marketing stunt to reclaim their losses. If they're smart they would fix the drones and give the working drones to the original backers of the Zano campaign. Shows good faith on their end. It also shows EF knows how to market a successful working project multiple times as a company looking to grow. This way when the drones end up on the market they can get positive reviews by people like the news media saying the company is legitimate and is all about the customer. Then people are more likely to purchase the working product.
Why would you make a drone that needs to connect to a server, a server that can fail/be shut-down? There has to be someone that hacked it to work off-line.
I know the feeling of never wanting to use kickstarter. I backed what seemed like a scam on hindsight. They said everything was ready to go. Then suddenly after 90 days they said needed to go back to prototype stage. Then suddenly last update was "we'll update if anything" that's when I realised that kicksterter doesn't care as long as they receive their commission.
I wonder if website pre-orders have some sort of legal protection that Kickstarter backers don't, hence why it's so common for them to receive products first?
Horribly sad story. This always seems to happen… I mean : ⚫️ People with the best of intentions & fully formed product get way, WAY overfunded & then… suddenly : ▪️ They think they have unlimited financial backing, so start spending money on shit that is ABSOLUTELY NOT RELATED to the product! ▪️ They decide : “hey, we have so much extra funding let’s add a bunch of cool extras” ▪️ *SADLY HOWEVER* - “COOL EXTRAS” might as well mean ; scrap the working prototype we have, and build (basically) an entirely new product!!! ▪️ They start by telling what may be (they definitely perceive it as such anyway) “little white lies” ▪️ Then fake updates ▪️ Then they start slipping, sliding, and falling off the wagon !! ▪️ Suddenly lies are the least of their faux pa’s and worries!! ▪️ Now, what were once friends, team mates, partners, etc. … now they are stressed out almost adversaries or enemies !¡! ▪️ Some want to batten down the hatches and fix/righten the ship, and some give up; creating… *your guessed it* ▪️. *MORE TENSION & MORE DRAMA* ⚫️ Finally the whole thing implodes and no one sees it until it explodes !¡! ⚫️ The moral of this (constantly appearing kickstarted) story is this : ⚫️ If you get way more funding then you could have imagined , then just DELIVER the F’ing product that got funded !¡! ⚫️ Deliver *ONLY* what You signed up for! Successfully fulfill your obligations, *AND THEN* worry about the extra (if any money) , or better yet *USE* it to further push/grow & advertise what you *ORIGINALLY* set out to create !!! ▪️ Maybe even come up with a 2.0 *AFTER* you deliver on your product, and funnel money into that … & finally : 🖤⚫️⬛️◼️◾️▪️➖ *PAY YOUR F’ING TAXES* ➖▪️◾️◼️⬛️⚫️🖤
Except for publishers who do use them to see if there is enough interest in a book or magazine too see if it is worth producing. I get the ZZAP and CRASH annuals off it these days. Knock! old school RPG magazine was cool
That stupid led grid display was too heavy and a flashy stupid idea. They even used old, cheap heavy "bulb style" leds, with the big plastic housing instead of the much smaller and lighter COB (chip on board) flat style leds.
My first(and last) backed "big" kickstarter campaign, should have just flush the money down the toilet. After the bankruptcy things got very toxic on KS, and KS response was quite baffling(no refunds, if you initiate charge back, you get banned from KS, zero help at all).
Testface 2 or Betaface as some call it as you leterally are bug testing, is a major unavoidable part of any major scale production be it electronics , cars , food etc, it is literally used to make sure your products do not fail on an unacceptable level , and to weed out bugs, as we all know nothing is perfect so most companies accept a sucessrate of 88% or over.
Don't people say the road to hell is paved with good intentions? Or maybe is a mistranslation, but seriously even though people make projects with all their good intentions, even though it's because of lack of experience or mistake, not delivering on your promises to your investors is equally scammy, especially if you suddenly appear one day driving a new beemer without even have sold a single unit of your promised products
I do allot I mean ALLOT of shows like CES and I can say this... yes the wifi is rubbish at Tradeshows... but I have seen drones up several times... heck we had DJI at the last one and they fly an Avita indoors...so not a valid excuse but the one semi credible one they had.
Seems quite odd to me that someone who has a primary series dedicated to internet scams seems to have been quite manipulated by what has apparently been exposed as a scam long ago.
When finances kept them from completing things and conducting more R&D, they didn't sell back the fancy BMW's though, now did they? That's what you buy AFTER your product is a success and everyone is happy. I can't trust the claims of "We did everything we could to save the project!" when that's what they spent the backers money on.
There is actually a legitimate reason why they couldn't demonstrate it flying. It is strictly prohibited to fly any unmanned vehicle near other people in public. You need a license to do that. That being said, they're still full of garbage.
I’ve always loved your videos man been following you since you were with Larry Bundy Junior but lost a lot of respect for you after the whole Amico bs. I’m glad you said you’re not an investor but your actions are very SUS. Slopes and the man I was gonna start watching your videos enjoy them but not hit the like button or make comments. However, i’m too big a goddamn fan to actually do that, please slopes restore everyone’s faith and do an honest critical Amico SCAMMER video.
12:22-12:31 EPILEPSY AND PHOTOSENSITIVITY WARNING! Why can't creators understand that flashing lights, especially flashing red/blue lights, can either be dangerous for some people due to seizures, or otherwise cause some of us physical pain? Just don't use rapidly flashing lights.
Because epilepsy, despite being the fourth most common neurological diseases, only affects 50 million people globally, which is roughly about 1% of the entire population, and with proper diagnosis and treatment, 70% of those affected people can live seizure free. More people will die from watching the video while driving a car than from a seizure induced by 9 seconds of police lights, which are an incredibly common sight in many visual mediums as well as real life and are specifically programmed outside of the 10-20hz threshold that trigger most epileptic episodes - nearly every emergency vehicle that uses flashing lights operate at 5 or less hz with brief breaks in the patterns to reduce the risk of epileptic seizures. I learned all of this in ten minutes with Google. Maybe next time you can do the same thing instead of being an alarmist?
@@Dargonhuman imagine treating what studies agree are up to a billion people get harmed from flashing lights as insignificant when more people suffer from photosensitivity in the world than are white.
@@ecocodex4431 up to a billion? Really? Highest number my research showed - and I'm quoting from several actual medical studies and sires - was 50 million. Worldwide.
@@Dargonhuman because photosensitivity includes people affected by epilepsy, AND people like me who experience physical pain as a result of flashing lights. But even if it was "only 50 million" maybe have some empathy and post a warning? How many people have to suffer for you give a d*mn?
@@ecocodex4431 That's a you problem, not the world's problem, flashing lights aren't going to go away just because EcoCodex experiences discomfort. I suffer from emetophobia but I don't go around demanding that people put trigger warnings for vomit scenes, because I know nobody "gives a damn" about me or my problems, they're my problems to deal with and I put on my big boy pants and deal with them when they come up.
Still surprised people are still willing to throw money to people on GoFundMe indiegogo and Kickstarter.. Even with all the massive evidence of con artists kind of ruling the give me money and I'll make this scenario. And yet nobody's learned a lesson.. Don't give money to people who don't have a product to produce.. An actual evidence of that product working. Pretty much should be a given..
This time, it really seemed there was a functioning product, but the item not working at the convention should've been where the alarm bells were really ringing. I don't think I've ever heard of a product that didn't or barely worked at something like CES went on to do massively well afterwards. Usually flops at conventions are a sign that the item is truly a dud.
Yeah still they have a function product that fell flat.. Almost like every other Kickstarter in the Go-Go or GoFundMe products.. Great idea that never achieved that hype.. Without the fact checking behind this drone.. With people still give the money? I would think consumers beware there's always someone or people willing to take your money without any question.. Because you're going to give them because why not.. Without question.. That's definitely con artist territory.
Could tell the drone was either a ripoff for the price or simply wouldn't work properly when I saw the first image... Seriously? Flying over the sea taking videos with direct drive brushed motors of that size? Naaaaa
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I’ll pass. I’m not obsessed with the former US president. More interested in seeing how the current president is going to screw up next.
paypal have beeen involved in other dofgy stuff too even withelding money over free speech , long story short working with facebook etc its complicated but it went to court
Out of all the problems with this drone, the fact that it had to be "always online" was the biggest, dumbest mistake.
Especially since its target market were outdoorsy and would want to use it where even keeping a Bluetooth signal would be dicey, let alone a Wi-Fi connection.
I was about to write "Did they not learn their lesson from the XBox One?", but this was before that came out.
Yeah, why the hell was that even a thing...
@@muckypup-riot because the on-board computer was far from capable of flying the thing alone.
@@SilverScaleMA where are you at that keeping a Bluetooth signal would be dicey? Unless there’s then Bluetooth depends on direct line of site.
Any piece of technology that *requires* it be connected to an outside server via the internet is already a red flag in my book.
No kidding. Ignoring the security concerns, not all wifi connections are created equal, and even good wifi can be disrupted by environmental factors, let alone bad wifi. If there isn't at least an option for offline local Bluetooth or RF connection to use when wifi isn't available, or even better, if that's not the default option with wifi connectivity for cloud syncing being the secondary option, then I'm going to have to think long and hard about what the tech is promising to do versus what it can deliver and/or what the developers are doing without our knowledge.
You mean like the Intellivision Amico?
looks at quest 2....
Yeah, some of it's traits probably should have required a separate battery-powered processing unit (which would have been a better place for the SD card holder...), but only the most advanced features should have needed an internet connection.
Sorry, but that's crap. I, for instance, got a peacemaker implanted which has to always be connected to the manufacturer's cloud service. What can I say - it's been working without any prob--------------..........
Electrolytic plating line operator here, our company manufactured a lot of these PCBs. I remember plating loads of them. First runs we sent out had various solder mask colours, noting which revision of prototype they were. I think it was white first, then black, then red & some blue. We even had to tell them that what they were asking for wasn't achievable with their design of the PCBs the way they were...whole thing was a farce, the company got all the money back through insurance...
For another massive kickstarter fail for drones the FPV Lunchbox. It shipped late with the main feature not working properly. They stole a mod I made and claimed they worked months on getting the software working. Eventually the guy just disappeared from the community.
I remember that. LunchboxFPV is a scumbag.
This sounds really interesting, where can I see more about this story?
I started getting into racing drones not long before that was announced, so was in the middle of my typically obsessive learning for new hobbies, so yeah I knew early on how far their claims were from reality.
Their "good intentions" are equally bullshit when the two creators bought BMW's before they had a functioning product and stole attention away from actual functioning products (seriously, people, you'd rather throw money at a product that hasn't even been seen functioning at the one event meant to show off tech goods, just because of what the creators CLAIM it can do, rather than actual, functioning drones at CES? 🤦🏾♀️).
To the ones who bought the shambles of Zano and actually had a functioning product from the start, you go, guys! It's the perfect middle finger. I wouldn't even do anything with the Zano name, except to maybe put it on blast of its utter failure. But having the name keeps it from being able to be used again, which means having to rebrand if they want to run another scam.
Yeah I get he said it sounds like the Extreme Flyers team gave Zano the middle finger by buying their share at the end and making working drones with lower specs that were more based in reality of what could be accomplished in such a small package but them losing that event that year to something that was just making promises was a much bigger middle finger. Especially when they had the technical knowhow to understand that what they were promising was most likely bullshit for what was possible vs gravity with a flying gadget.
That would have been such a huge boost for their company to win that year but it's hard to tell what else was at the expo too. They could have still lost to something else I mean it isn't like it was said they got 2nd place but winning would've been so much good publicity for a company that understood how flying things worked.
You didnt mention the fact that they dragged a Suspercomputer to Ireland to develop the interconnection data, and when the company went tits up, they just left ikt behind in the offices, still plugged in, blinking away.
I always love watching these sort of things just to see how ridiculous the claims can get and how unrealistic they are but still receive multiple times their requested goals yet still deliver nothing
That's what Zanos gets for poking fun of Extreme Flyers. EF basically bought them out & made their product right.
Who thought that a drone that always needs to be connected was a good idea? Aren't these supposed to fly outdoors?
Is it normal for drones to connect to a company server in order to fly? This seems like the biggest reason to avoid this thing.
Not that I'm aware of. I've never heard of it before, but I'm not particularly knowledgeable about drones either.
Feels kinda scammy. And yet less of a scam than a certain family friendly retro-revival console.
@@onldhes when did he do that?
The Xbox? What's so "retro-revival" about that?
@@operator8014 Intellivision Amico.
@@operator8014 I mean if the Xbox was a scam this would make sense. I think a $250 console that plays 1440p60fps and $15 a month for gamepass is a pretty good deal
You know shit's dire when you have to put a video of a guy with the drone on 4X speed _just to see the drone "working"._
In actual fact it's probably 8x the speed. Because I speed up his original 3x video lol
Movie Tech Creation: In the two years between the first and second Iron Man films, Tony Stark managed to go from building a crude weaponized suit of armour in a cave to having a fully fledged robotic version that could fold up into a briefcase.
Real Life Tech Creation: Three years to make widdle dwone
Also; Always connected to a server? If these things were pitched a few years later they woulda used the word "blockchain" instead haha.
It’s almost like Tony Stark has a lot more money and resources than $2 million
The more videos like these I watch the more I realize that a lot of the blame for these failures come from external agents that behave in bullsh*t ways. From Paypal's _"We won't give you the money until you deliver the product even though you need the money to deliver the product"_ nonsense to a goodamn tech show giving the award to the people with _no working prototype._ I mean, freaking hell, I guess I can just show up to any of those shows with a metal box full of random cables and screws, claim it's a portable holodeck and they'll just give me the prize.
They didn’t know what they were doing and probably shouldn’t have tried in the first place. The lying puts them in the Amico category, which isn’t a good place to be.
They needed to learn to walk before jumping off the cliff. If they would have started with a simpler but decent model just to make sure their programming and design was viable then they would have had both the capital and experience to move on to their more complex designs with less stress. They basically jumped into the deep end and drowned because they thought they could swim but couldn't.
I disagree. Seems like the knew exactly what they were doing.
One thing backers and Elon Musk fans fail to realise: 3D models aren't completely real. Duh.
If they were I'd have a giant blue knob.
5:37 music from pokemon mystery dungeon? lol
I count at LEAST 7 (seven) "DA TA" decals on the laptop lid. So it's: "Data Data Data Data Data Data Data" XD LoL..
I saw the title and thought you would be talking about the Lily drone. That one would be worth a video! It never shipped and the original campaign video was faked.
Unrelated but that Offspring record player is dope! Is that official merch?
I think that's just a slipmat. It's not the actual platter
@@NintenDub You're probably right. The red unit just made me assume it was made for it.
Oh that's what that is. I saw the offspring logo but couldn't quite tell what it was, granted I'm watching this video at 240/360P cause my internet is awful.
I remember reading medium article about this fiasco, what a dumpster fire.
Extreme Flyers then went on to pull a much bigger scam than Zano with their Micro Drone 4.0 indieGoGo campaign.
I got my money back from the website pre-orders via paypall after the CEO disappeared just before they declarered bankruptcy.
swarming and nano drone, words to strike fear into the heart of every Horizon Zero Dawn player. Seriously just as well this was a scam.
Haven't seen a scam like this since the Amico
That makes me sad :(
How would there be WiFi on the track, ocean, or forest. I mean crap, pretty much anywhere worth filming.
I'm ready to be taken for a ride
That's what she said
I feel like flying a drone (even a small one) around a busy convention hall is not the safest idea?
While I'm sure (or at least I _hope)_ there were strict safety guidelines and restrictions in place for that, I do agree that flying footage felt uncomfortably dangerous.
Maybe not, but I'd want to still see a drone hover above the crowds and zip back and forth above everyone. If you can't showcase what it can do, then bringing it to a tech show is pointless.
Wasn't that at a drone convention? If so I would be disappointed if there wasn't any zipping around...
In some countries, people in that convention could actually sue the operator for endangering their health. Unless they had to sign a paper that they consent to drones flying over them to be able to enter the convention, which, for a drone convention, would likely be the case.
"Kickstarter had to hire investigators to determine if this project was a scam. Was it?"
Title of the video and thumbnail call it a scam in a series called Kickscammers.
"I'm not gonna tell you yet!"
Yeah, you got us on the edge of our seats on that one.
I wasn’t expecting the music to Choplifter to start the episode. Makes sense.
Anyone who has ever flown a cheap, small drone knows this thing was impossible. The footage they showed as coming from the drone was so obviously faked with a shaky hand-cam or from a much larger/higher quality unit. 😆
Sounds less like a scam and mote like the grossest of incompetence.
@Jonathan Harrison That IS adorable, yes
@Jonathan Harrison there's a reason why "stress is a killer" is a common phrase, you know.
Well, the original footage was blatantly faked, proving they never had a working prototype, which is required when you open a technology project on Kickstarter. So regardless of the company's intentions, it absolutely was a scam, they lied that they could do something they were just hoping they'd someday figure out. They didn't intend to steal people's money, sure, but they went into it unable to fulfill the promises they were making and just crossing their fingers and hoping with the money they'd get it done so no one would figure it out. This is one of those cases where intention really isn't as important as what they did, and they DID lie about what they had and could do.
Slope, you really need to hire a writer. Your narration and point is all over the place.
It just goes to show that CES accolades mean nothing since you can just talk about a product with no working demo and win best of show. Meanwhile the competitor had a working unit and was dismissed. Shame.
Whens the amico one coming out?
When Tommy Tallerico comes and kicks ur butt up and down the street, twice. Then u feel like a fool.
I would say, 70% scam, 30% utter incompetence.
this intro should have the amicos theme song
So happy to hear the Pikuniku soundtrack on a video!! Haha :)
I always love the excuses companies give for the problems with their product to attempt at a positive pr comment. If the reasons for not flying the drone at the show being military related then why is it even being shown to the average consumer to be sold? Don't military tech usually get shown to the government officials in charge of military contracts only? Honestly asking.
And I love how EF got the last laugh. EF might actually use the failed Zano drone campaign as a marketing stunt to reclaim their losses. If they're smart they would fix the drones and give the working drones to the original backers of the Zano campaign. Shows good faith on their end. It also shows EF knows how to market a successful working project multiple times as a company looking to grow. This way when the drones end up on the market they can get positive reviews by people like the news media saying the company is legitimate and is all about the customer. Then people are more likely to purchase the working product.
When will you be doing a video on the Amico?
He's buddy-buddy with Tommy.
Why would you make a drone that needs to connect to a server, a server that can fail/be shut-down?
There has to be someone that hacked it to work off-line.
I know the feeling of never wanting to use kickstarter.
I backed what seemed like a scam on hindsight. They said everything was ready to go. Then suddenly after 90 days they said needed to go back to prototype stage.
Then suddenly last update was "we'll update if anything" that's when I realised that kicksterter doesn't care as long as they receive their commission.
I wonder if website pre-orders have some sort of legal protection that Kickstarter backers don't, hence why it's so common for them to receive products first?
This was covered in the video- _Paypal._
Horribly sad story.
This always seems to happen… I mean :
⚫️ People with the best of intentions & fully formed product get way, WAY overfunded & then… suddenly :
▪️ They think they have unlimited financial backing, so start spending money on shit that is ABSOLUTELY NOT RELATED to the product!
▪️ They decide : “hey, we have so much extra funding let’s add a bunch of cool extras”
▪️ *SADLY HOWEVER* - “COOL EXTRAS” might as well mean ; scrap the working prototype we have, and build (basically) an entirely new product!!!
▪️ They start by telling what may be (they definitely perceive it as such anyway) “little white lies”
▪️ Then fake updates
▪️ Then they start slipping, sliding, and falling off the wagon !!
▪️ Suddenly lies are the least of their faux pa’s and worries!!
▪️ Now, what were once friends, team mates, partners, etc. … now they are stressed out almost adversaries or enemies !¡!
▪️ Some want to batten down the hatches and fix/righten the ship, and some give up; creating… *your guessed it*
▪️. *MORE TENSION & MORE DRAMA*
⚫️ Finally the whole thing implodes and no one sees it until it explodes !¡!
⚫️ The moral of this (constantly appearing kickstarted) story is this :
⚫️ If you get way more funding then you could have imagined , then just DELIVER the F’ing product that got funded !¡!
⚫️ Deliver *ONLY* what You signed up for! Successfully fulfill your obligations, *AND THEN* worry about the extra (if any money) , or better yet *USE* it to further push/grow & advertise what you *ORIGINALLY* set out to create !!!
▪️ Maybe even come up with a 2.0 *AFTER* you deliver on your product, and funnel money into that … & finally :
🖤⚫️⬛️◼️◾️▪️➖ *PAY YOUR F’ING TAXES* ➖▪️◾️◼️⬛️⚫️🖤
That Shenmue music in the outro hit me right in the nostalgia feels.
Underwear gnome plan in practice?
Step one, DRONE'S
Step two, .......
Step three, PROFIT!
Why do people keep donating after they reach the goal? I know you get early perks but goddamn, seems like you're asking for trouble.
Thank you for finally doing this one!
just watching this one again :)
Except for publishers who do use them to see if there is enough interest in a book or magazine too see if it is worth producing. I get the ZZAP and CRASH annuals off it these days. Knock! old school RPG magazine was cool
The PMD background music tho 🖤🖤🖤
Yep, I remember this one...I was one of the backers....they had us all fooled. Never got my money back.
Fly upside down with brushed motors AND standard MONO DIRECTIONAL props. Liars :) lol
🥰 the 'Pulp Fiction' poster in the background
This is why I rather pay double for a launched product than "kickstart" anything, even at a discount.
I wonder how many people recognized the Sega Choplifter arcade music.
The fact that you did made me very happy
That stupid led grid display was too heavy and a flashy stupid idea. They even used old, cheap heavy "bulb style" leds, with the big plastic housing instead of the much smaller and lighter COB (chip on board) flat style leds.
Nice Sonic shirt! 😍
Oh, the karma at the end of this is so wonderful.
My first(and last) backed "big" kickstarter campaign, should have just flush the money down the toilet. After the bankruptcy things got very toxic on KS, and KS response was quite baffling(no refunds, if you initiate charge back, you get banned from KS, zero help at all).
You could say the campaign DRONED on
no... don't ever do that again...
That's some good ol' fashioned dad humor.
Is that an Offspring vinyl player Daniel?
Do the Grifta Morphing Gamepad next! =)
And ayyyy the site's gone out into the wild haha, nooooice.
Testface 2 or Betaface as some call it as you leterally are bug testing, is a major unavoidable part of any major scale production be it electronics , cars , food etc, it is literally used to make sure your products do not fail on an unacceptable level , and to weed out bugs, as we all know nothing is perfect so most companies accept a sucessrate of 88% or over.
wow why didn't they just use your phone instead of drmc like server ? it just asked for that problem from day 1
How could anyone believe all the claims they made that the drone could do.....?!
Were the leads on this even engineers or just "people that like drones"?
Don't people say the road to hell is paved with good intentions? Or maybe is a mistranslation, but seriously even though people make projects with all their good intentions, even though it's because of lack of experience or mistake, not delivering on your promises to your investors is equally scammy, especially if you suddenly appear one day driving a new beemer without even have sold a single unit of your promised products
shoutout to whoever made the stock footage of the bitcoin dollar being burned
I do allot I mean ALLOT of shows like CES and I can say this... yes the wifi is rubbish at Tradeshows... but I have seen drones up several times... heck we had DJI at the last one and they fly an Avita indoors...so not a valid excuse but the one semi credible one they had.
Intellivision Amico Kickscammers incoming surely?
Seems quite odd to me that someone who has a primary series dedicated to internet scams seems to have been quite manipulated by what has apparently been exposed as a scam long ago.
Hell yeah brother !
15:24 an animation of what would eventually happen to your drone. Lol 😅
Sloooooope, I have a question for you as an eng language learner. You speak with a British accent, right?
Just showing off my badge.
they're the ones working on it how u not see trouble coming?
I see slopes, I click.....
so if you want a drone... what one should you get?
Dji anything
At least they actually tried in this Kickstarter unlike some of them they really did try.....
When finances kept them from completing things and conducting more R&D, they didn't sell back the fancy BMW's though, now did they? That's what you buy AFTER your product is a success and everyone is happy. I can't trust the claims of "We did everything we could to save the project!" when that's what they spent the backers money on.
That Cuphead music gave me PTSD
I'm looking forward to the upcoming Intellivision Amico Kickscammer video.
There is actually a legitimate reason why they couldn't demonstrate it flying. It is strictly prohibited to fly any unmanned vehicle near other people in public. You need a license to do that. That being said, they're still full of garbage.
If the presenters declined flying the drones during CES for various reasons...then why sell it?
Hmm 🤔 intrigue has started
I’ve always loved your videos man been following you since you were with Larry Bundy Junior but lost a lot of respect for you after the whole Amico bs. I’m glad you said you’re not an investor but your actions are very SUS. Slopes and the man I was gonna start watching your videos enjoy them but not hit the like button or make comments. However, i’m too big a goddamn fan to actually do that, please slopes restore everyone’s faith and do an honest critical Amico SCAMMER video.
Extreme Flyers had the last laugh
The case needed to be omitted
Cool...now do the amico
Cmon haxxorz, make this live again. Server etc etc
Who is Slope?
What a piece of garbitch. But I would love a drone this size that flies for hours and shoots 1080p video!
Dji air 2 already fulfills the feature set and then some.
12:22-12:31 EPILEPSY AND PHOTOSENSITIVITY WARNING!
Why can't creators understand that flashing lights, especially flashing red/blue lights, can either be dangerous for some people due to seizures, or otherwise cause some of us physical pain? Just don't use rapidly flashing lights.
Because epilepsy, despite being the fourth most common neurological diseases, only affects 50 million people globally, which is roughly about 1% of the entire population, and with proper diagnosis and treatment, 70% of those affected people can live seizure free. More people will die from watching the video while driving a car than from a seizure induced by 9 seconds of police lights, which are an incredibly common sight in many visual mediums as well as real life and are specifically programmed outside of the 10-20hz threshold that trigger most epileptic episodes - nearly every emergency vehicle that uses flashing lights operate at 5 or less hz with brief breaks in the patterns to reduce the risk of epileptic seizures.
I learned all of this in ten minutes with Google. Maybe next time you can do the same thing instead of being an alarmist?
@@Dargonhuman imagine treating what studies agree are up to a billion people get harmed from flashing lights as insignificant when more people suffer from photosensitivity in the world than are white.
@@ecocodex4431 up to a billion? Really? Highest number my research showed - and I'm quoting from several actual medical studies and sires - was 50 million. Worldwide.
@@Dargonhuman because photosensitivity includes people affected by epilepsy, AND people like me who experience physical pain as a result of flashing lights. But even if it was "only 50 million" maybe have some empathy and post a warning?
How many people have to suffer for you give a d*mn?
@@ecocodex4431 That's a you problem, not the world's problem, flashing lights aren't going to go away just because EcoCodex experiences discomfort.
I suffer from emetophobia but I don't go around demanding that people put trigger warnings for vomit scenes, because I know nobody "gives a damn" about me or my problems, they're my problems to deal with and I put on my big boy pants and deal with them when they come up.
Always online sounds like the original Xbox One
oooh you can turn it into a 4 points at once Tattoo gun!
Wow this video is surprisingly better and enjoyable.
Though not a scam this time...
Still surprised people are still willing to throw money to people on GoFundMe indiegogo and Kickstarter..
Even with all the massive evidence of con artists kind of ruling the give me money and I'll make this scenario.
And yet nobody's learned a lesson..
Don't give money to people who don't have a product to produce..
An actual evidence of that product working.
Pretty much should be a given..
This time, it really seemed there was a functioning product, but the item not working at the convention should've been where the alarm bells were really ringing. I don't think I've ever heard of a product that didn't or barely worked at something like CES went on to do massively well afterwards. Usually flops at conventions are a sign that the item is truly a dud.
Yeah still they have a function product that fell flat..
Almost like every other Kickstarter in the Go-Go or GoFundMe products..
Great idea that never achieved that hype..
Without the fact checking behind this drone..
With people still give the money?
I would think consumers beware there's always someone or people willing to take your money without any question..
Because you're going to give them because why not..
Without question..
That's definitely con artist territory.
My view don't believe the hype check your facts..
If it's too good to be true.. definitely a con..
And then a fool and their money will soon part ways..
BT Burnham..
Could tell the drone was either a ripoff for the price or simply wouldn't work properly when I saw the first image... Seriously? Flying over the sea taking videos with direct drive brushed motors of that size? Naaaaa