@@adamde-mayo1299 blaze wrote a comment about how meganium is obviously a bad mon and instead of admitting the joke flew over their head they deleted the comment. Gone, but not forgotten 🫡
I think Rillaboom probably deserves it over something like Charizard because it doesn't have to rely on single use gimmick forms like mega and dynamax to be really powerful. Both of which could only be used for a limited amount of time as they've been removed from future games, and can only be used on one pokemon.
Also, using Charizard forms means you have to consider about opportunity cost about using other selections while Rillaboom does not provide such tricky selections.
Also also rillaboom pairs well with the actual number 1 to form fire and grass of the common fire water grass core. Fake out cycling between the 2, damage, bulk, priority. Matches up well into the other common grass of amoongus (unless it runs sludge bomb and some sp atk). It's hard to imagine a format with rilla where it wouldn't be good.
And wolfe didnt even talk about its other move options. If i recall correctly, player also used knock off and high horsepower sometimes, maybe even other moves im forgetting about. Charizard doesnt have that same flexibility woth its moves
New ability just dropped for incineroar called “F*** You”. When incineroar enters the field, it drops all the opponents stats by 6 stages, sets up a belly drum, regenerates incineroar to full, sets up max spikes stealth rocks toxic spikes, leech infestation, burns the opponent, sets up desolate land, gives it sturdy and wonderguard, gives it stab on all moves, Huge Power, Good as Gold, Unseen Fist, Intimidate, protect never fails, neutralizing has for only opponents (but toggleable for regigigas), all items only apply buffs (ie choice items don’t lock moves), Harvest but 100% of the time, effects of mirror white mental herbs, regenerator but to full HP, able to use Z-moves on all turns without holding z crystal, tablets beads vessel sword of ruin on only opponents, friend guard, sets up aroura veil, multiscale for every turn, priority on all moves, makes all moves never miss, technician but works for moves up to 1000 BP, gives a full omni boost to all Pokémon on its side, allows you to snag your opponents Pokémon like in colosseum, sets up tailwind, max evasion and drops accuracy of opponent to minimum, and why not, give it ball fetch.
Maybe it's for the better? You always know your hp number, so with enough knowledge you can just know the activation threshold, while keeping the enemy guessing
I believe some videos are scripted and some are improvised based on notes, these types of videos are the latter (from what I can tell). It's the longer videos about tournaments that end up being mostly scripted due to the time it takes to compile the visuals, and because I'm sure Wolfe can't remember every single detail, so a script is made where they decide what to mention.
Something I always notice and appreciate about your videos is that they’re always written as if you’ve never watched before or know nothing about Pokémon. Before scarlet and violet I only watched videos and never actually got to play before so when I did I felt pretty confident because of all the information I get from these videos
1:19 “Do people like Primarina?” Considering it’s literally my favorite Pokémon of all time, I’m inclined to say yes, and I’m glad it has a place on this list.
If I were to be a trainer, and I could pick a team of only my favorites, id only have three, but Primarina is one of them no doubt. Ive always kept an eye on it since gen 7 cause of its design, and it was my starter pokemon in SM, but gen 9 was really when it became solidified in the top 3. Really happy its a really good pokemon that doesnt just rely on Hyper speedy offensive, its bulky/defensive playstyle shakes up the play a bit.
I started playing pokemon games with gen 7 and my brother (who didn’t want to me take the same starter) suggested me popplio and now it is my favorite pokemon evolution line
Primarina is one of my absolute favorites! Also I feel very called out, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who sometimes listens to your videos to fall asleep to? You're very relaxing to listen to.
YAAAAY DROPPED DURING REGIONALS LOOOL it was SO nice to meet you there! thank you for being so kind to me when i asked for a picture, and you even bent down to be more level with me in my wheelchair, which nobody EVER DOES. it was really kind and i appreciate it a lot ❤
As a mostly smogon player it's so wild to me that Blaziken isn't just super broken in doubles, haha. Blaziken still haunts my nightmares from when it was legal in OU
I’ll never forgive GameFreak for giving Charizard and Venusaur these awesome hidden abilities…and then give Blastoise Rain Dish. They need to have a defensive water type ability, like raising defense and special defense in the rain. That would be fair and Blastoise needs it
Charizard definitely got all the favoritism since VI, Venusaur got a lot of good things... and Blastoise got, always just kind of left on the sidelnes. Even in VI when it got Mega Launcher everyone was really disappointed. A special-oriented version of Tough Claws like Charizard-X got would've been more appropiate.
Brother, Don’t have enough on the side to subscribe to patron, can only like and subscribe to your videos That said: for the last couple years while I’ve been active duty US military, I’ve listened to your videos on deployment and making road trips every weekend (taking my daughter to see her grandparents and aunt) to stay awake and because I love pokemon. I don’t play competitive on switch, but showdown is a great way to pass the time and just wanted to say your videos make me laugh, smile, and wanted to give you a giant thank you! I’ll do patreon eventually when my bills are caught up, keep up the great work!
I think subscribing is enough if you arent able/comfortable with other forms of support. Patreon mainly benfits you if you want opinions about tournament level teams and access to them as well as some other stuff. If you really want to support him with additional money (when you have the opportunity), consider catching a stream if possible and looking for a way to support there with a donation or subscription. You can obviously do whatever you want but patreon is not the only option you have and it might not be worth your while if the benefits dont apply to you
25:10 so the top 2 starters pokemons share the same trait then, literal personifications (or rather pokemon-ifications) of becoming so good (at supporting your team) that they can't ignore you
They are extremely good at supporting without the usual downsides of lacking damage etc. I think thats a design flaw which shouldnt be repeated but power creep happens with long standing competitive franchises.
It also makes sense, considering that as starter pokemon, they are gonna have generally lower stats compared to other top tiers... so it's best for these pokemon to not act as the main damages but as support...
I love every single video and watch them with full attention the first time, but the callout for playing them in the background is so accurate 🤣 You're so articulate and pleasant to listen to! I listen to your videos whenever I'm cleaning, the Charlotte (Farigiraf), Orlando (Amoongus), and Perish Trap tournament videos are the only ones I have downloaded for all of RUclips! They're just the right amount of engaging to entertain me while letting me focus on other tasks, and I've listened to each one dozens of times! I love your content, and I look forward to it every week! Thank you for everything you do for your fans and community!!
12:05 He’s on to me. Hilarious that this was brought up for one of the relatively more rare times I’m not using the fact that Wolfy never yells and speaks low to sleep lmao
I'm glad to finally be acknowledged in a Wolfey video. I am on my third rewatch of this video because I love these videos to relax and fall asleep with.
11:57 when you’re talking about the viewers falling asleep that’s literally me rn and I bursted out laughing Thank you Wolfie, I know and appreciate the amount of effort you and all the remaining squad put into making these videos for us
wait theres so much hollow knight osts and sound effects in this omg 😭 i heard decisive battle, dung defender, fungle wastes, and daughter of hallownest. there was also a dung defender voice clip, the dream nail and grubberfly’s elegy swing sounds aaaaa
The best starter pokemon: incineroar The second best starter pokemon: incineroar The best pokemon competitively: incineroar The best pokemon in pokemon history: incineroar The best pokemon for support: incineroar The best pokemon to make wolfey annoyed: incineroar The best pokemon that makes people think it fell off but it actually didn't: incineroar The best pokemon to traumatize competitive players: incineroar The best pokemon to dominate every single year it's legal: incineroar
As awesome as torracat is, no. I am PRETTY SURE, at LEAST incineroar, is only so good thanks to his signature move, his movepool is very good for his playstyle. While torracat I believe would be missing those moves.
@@xKachi What about other moves, surely incineroar runs a few moves that torracat can't. And to take it further, have we ever even seen torracat in competitive?
Torracat gets Fake Out and Parting Shot as well as Intimidate, and those are the most important moves in its set. It also keeps Taunt, Will-o-Wisp, Flare Blitz, Protect, U-turn, and rarely- used options like Swords Dance and Substitute. It loses access to most Dark moves (and Dark type, so it loses immunity to Expanding Force and Prankster Taunt) but does still have Crunch. Knock Off is the biggest loss, not Darkest Lariat or Throat Chop. It also lacks most of Incin’s coverage options, but Incin never actually uses them. Aside from that, those stats are an issue. Max Attack Adamant hits slightly harder than uninvested Incin, but if you want to make good use of that Eviolite then you won’t hit very hard.
People forget that Incineroar has insane bulk stats (95/90/90 are nuts even for defensive Pokémon). That, alone with Intimidate, Snarl and Parting Shot that just keep dropping the offensive stats of his opponents, are what makes it so good. Torracat doesn't have half as good bulk stats, even with Eviolite, so it wouldn't be as good.
Just wanted to say I'm a new member to the channel and i have been binge watching your videos while I have my annual Replay all my favorite pokemon games phase and its been awesome, thanks for the content and keep it up, you guys rock.
I hear Decidueye is making waves in the new format, specifically the new form with its triple arrow ability. Maybe we can get a short on it that calls back to this video?
Historically they have simply never had real significance in the last decade of VGC, except Swampert. Greninja has always been outclassed by bulky waters or swift swim users. Infernape has to compete with other physical fire types like Incin and arcanine for a slot and only recently got access to some much needed special moves. Swampert was the most used of the three during the era of Mega's, but base Swampert's abilities are terrible in doubles
Love watching your videos! It was amazing meeting you at Baltimore as you are a very pleasant person IRL! Hope you keep doing what you do and really enjoy learning from you! 😄
Here i am waking up on a Saturday morning and flipping on the new Wolfey video to fall back asleep to, like i normally do, when my half asleep mind is snapped awake by that fourth wall break
omg I was falling asleep accidentally (long day, you're not boring) when you called me out and I started laughing. I can't go back to sleep now because I'm too focused on the Venosaur info
Its kinda ironic how he said It after just talking about primarina LOL But tbf It isnt even difficult to resist, theres a ton of mons who come to mind that resist the stabs
12:01 oh my god its 2 am and i play wolfe's vids to help me sleep cause it's lowkey relaxing to hear him ramble about competitive pokemon even if i dont get what he's talking about 50% of the time
Man I have been watching so much mobile game content (the production value of most RUclipsrs content on those games is C tier at best) I completely forgot how nice videos with S tier editing and a charismatic person who’s fluent in English are
Amazing video as always. Small, purely subjective critique: I'd prefer if the silhouettes of the list weren't shown in the beginning. I was in the middle of making friendly bets with my best friend while watching this and the silhouetted list kinda took away the suspense. I know the video switched 2 of them, but still. Really not a big deal I just thought I'd say something to draw attention to it so y'all consider how you wanna do it.
The spanish title of the video is wrong, it says "Who is the second WORST starter pokémon?" Hopefully the editors will see this comment and fix it so spanish speakers won't get confused.
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Second Incineroar in the PC is the
second best starter unfortunately
😢
Lmao
Wolfe bringing 2 incineroars to the tournament
An Incineroar in the team is worth two in the box
water type inceroar: second best
grass type inceroar: third best
Lmao idk why this is so funny
We hit a new record! Incineroar shows up only FOUR seconds into a video about the second best starter pokemon!
AND he is in the thumbnail!
Damn you for spoiling it for me!
SPOILER ALERT
W
Bro showed up before the video started💀
For anyone wondering, it took 0 seconds for Incineroar to be in the video. Its in the thumbnail.
I dont know what you talking about? He didnt mention Inceneroar even once :P
@@noskes1 He’s slacking
@@Onitheusslayking
@@Onitheus Slaking mentioned, I'm gonna Truant
Who is incineroar?
For anyone interested, it takes 4 seconds for incineroar to appear in a video about specifically not incineroar
I'm starting to realize that the answer to "Why is this random pokemon good?" is almost always "Weather setter."
Its almost as if the abilities that were designed for legendary pokemon would break the game
@@mahomisawa4172 Meanwhile intimidate:
@@sinteleonintimidate is so intimidating it can even intimidate legendaries
"oh why do you like XYZ so much it has such mid stats?" sporr
And sometimes it's just movepool (aka the only reason why smeargle is even a thing)
Took until 0:16 to mention meganium. Way to spoil the video!
@@blaze3092I think he was joking
@@blaze3092obvious sarcasm flies over way too many peoples heads online
@@blaze3092wdym, Meganium is such a good Pokémon and not totally worthless :)
I dont know what blaze wrote, bit damn
@@adamde-mayo1299 blaze wrote a comment about how meganium is obviously a bad mon and instead of admitting the joke flew over their head they deleted the comment. Gone, but not forgotten 🫡
14:51 "It would've won another one if I hadn't stopped it" 😭
Nice flex 😅😂
World Champ Difference
Ts actually went so hard
Actual bars
*hadn't
I think Rillaboom probably deserves it over something like Charizard because it doesn't have to rely on single use gimmick forms like mega and dynamax to be really powerful. Both of which could only be used for a limited amount of time as they've been removed from future games, and can only be used on one pokemon.
Also, using Charizard forms means you have to consider about opportunity cost about using other selections while Rillaboom does not provide such tricky selections.
Also also rillaboom pairs well with the actual number 1 to form fire and grass of the common fire water grass core. Fake out cycling between the 2, damage, bulk, priority. Matches up well into the other common grass of amoongus (unless it runs sludge bomb and some sp atk). It's hard to imagine a format with rilla where it wouldn't be good.
And wolfe didnt even talk about its other move options. If i recall correctly, player also used knock off and high horsepower sometimes, maybe even other moves im forgetting about. Charizard doesnt have that same flexibility woth its moves
I think they are bringing mega back next gen
Honestly I think of Grassy Surge + Grassy Glide as a gimmick too, but maybe I shouldn’t at this point
New ability just dropped for incineroar called “F*** You”. When incineroar enters the field, it drops all the opponents stats by 6 stages, sets up a belly drum, regenerates incineroar to full, sets up max spikes stealth rocks toxic spikes, leech infestation, burns the opponent, sets up desolate land, gives it sturdy and wonderguard, gives it stab on all moves, Huge Power, Good as Gold, Unseen Fist, Intimidate, protect never fails, neutralizing has for only opponents (but toggleable for regigigas), all items only apply buffs (ie choice items don’t lock moves), Harvest but 100% of the time, effects of mirror white mental herbs, regenerator but to full HP, able to use Z-moves on all turns without holding z crystal, tablets beads vessel sword of ruin on only opponents, friend guard, sets up aroura veil, multiscale for every turn, priority on all moves, makes all moves never miss, technician but works for moves up to 1000 BP, gives a full omni boost to all Pokémon on its side, allows you to snag your opponents Pokémon like in colosseum, sets up tailwind, max evasion and drops accuracy of opponent to minimum, and why not, give it ball fetch.
Ball fetch is brutal bro you didn't have to do that 💀
toggleable for Regigigas but not Slaking.
This ability still isn't complete.
when you brought only attacking moves and the other guy has destiny bond focus sash:
That's still a weak upgrade it seems...
it doesn’t even set up steelspikes 😔
I do wish Blaze, Torrent and Overgrow had indicators like other abilities, so we know when the Pokemon is powered up
Maybe it's for the better? You always know your hp number, so with enough knowledge you can just know the activation threshold, while keeping the enemy guessing
I'm going to make a wild guess heading into this video:
It's Rillaboom.
3rd is Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
3rd probbly h typhlosion
@@PrismaAce I sure hope someone picks up that phone
Rillaboom is more played than Incineroar at the Regional today too... You're probably right.
Yeah exactly, unless urshifu is counted as a starter
"Distortion world bent" instead of hell bent is actually god tier writing. Idk if it's Wolfey or one of the team that scripts these but banger job!
I thought the same, I really hope they patted themselves on the back for that one
I believe some videos are scripted and some are improvised based on notes, these types of videos are the latter (from what I can tell). It's the longer videos about tournaments that end up being mostly scripted due to the time it takes to compile the visuals, and because I'm sure Wolfe can't remember every single detail, so a script is made where they decide what to mention.
Something I always notice and appreciate about your videos is that they’re always written as if you’ve never watched before or know nothing about Pokémon. Before scarlet and violet I only watched videos and never actually got to play before so when I did I felt pretty confident because of all the information I get from these videos
1:19 “Do people like Primarina?”
Considering it’s literally my favorite Pokémon of all time, I’m inclined to say yes, and I’m glad it has a place on this list.
same I got so happy he mentioned her she's actually soo good
If I were to be a trainer, and I could pick a team of only my favorites, id only have three, but Primarina is one of them no doubt. Ive always kept an eye on it since gen 7 cause of its design, and it was my starter pokemon in SM, but gen 9 was really when it became solidified in the top 3. Really happy its a really good pokemon that doesnt just rely on Hyper speedy offensive, its bulky/defensive playstyle shakes up the play a bit.
I started playing pokemon games with gen 7 and my brother (who didn’t want to me take the same starter) suggested me popplio and now it is my favorite pokemon evolution line
Primarina is one of my absolute favorites! Also I feel very called out, but I'm glad I'm not the only one who sometimes listens to your videos to fall asleep to? You're very relaxing to listen to.
2:48
I had no idea sound-based moves bypass Substitute. That's cool to know.
It's one of those non-written pokemon rules. Like how Stomp hits pokemon with Minimise normally because it's like stomping on an ant
@@HazeEmry That I didn't know, Woah
yeah same here
@@muhammadkhizar9924stomp also can't miss vs minimize. Same goes for heat crash dragon rush and a few other moves
Also using defence curl doubles the dmg from roll out
i feel so called out😭😭 12:00
Damn... Me too brother, me too.
Amen brother 😂
Amen brother
Same, I never take naps but today I needed one and I had to open my eyes to come to the comments to say this exactly lmao
Preaach
Cool vid, but you should have made a video discussing who the 3rd best starter was, cause it was very clear Rillaboom was gonna be the 2nd best
True lol
Yeah “can we already skip to third because second is 100% the monke”
I mean, he made a top 5 candidate list. So wouldn't that mean that Rillaboom is 2nd best and Charizard is 3rd best?
"can we already skip to fourth because third is 100% Gamefreak's child"
We need a "WHOS THE MOST AVERAGE STARTER?"
YAAAAY DROPPED DURING REGIONALS LOOOL it was SO nice to meet you there! thank you for being so kind to me when i asked for a picture, and you even bent down to be more level with me in my wheelchair, which nobody EVER DOES. it was really kind and i appreciate it a lot ❤
We love to see it
This is super wholesome, glad your meeting went well
As a mostly smogon player it's so wild to me that Blaziken isn't just super broken in doubles, haha. Blaziken still haunts my nightmares from when it was legal in OU
I'm glad that Primarina was in the video. She was my first pick when I played sun and moon cause I like the design and the sound based moves.
12:47 the 90% accurate Synthesis is crazy
XD
I really hate it when that happens.
I’ll never forgive GameFreak for giving Charizard and Venusaur these awesome hidden abilities…and then give Blastoise Rain Dish. They need to have a defensive water type ability, like raising defense and special defense in the rain. That would be fair and Blastoise needs it
Charizard definitely got all the favoritism since VI, Venusaur got a lot of good things... and Blastoise got, always just kind of left on the sidelnes.
Even in VI when it got Mega Launcher everyone was really disappointed. A special-oriented version of Tough Claws like Charizard-X got would've been more appropiate.
Ngl Blastoise is my favourite pokemon but it just never gets any love.
I like Primarina. First fairy starter is iconic to me.
same! I also love their design and concept :D an underrated starter for sure
Same here, my number 1 favorite Starter
After all, hear me out...
I legitimately just snuggled in for a sweet nap and got called out 12:02
mood
Because of Red Version, Charizard should technically be a restricted Pokémon, as it is a cover legendary
Cover 2 legendary
Tf are Zygarde, both Urshifus, both Calyrexes, and Terapagos
@@yeon_sterUrshi + Calyrex were on the key art/main heading for the DLC on the eshop 😉
Brother,
Don’t have enough on the side to subscribe to patron, can only like and subscribe to your videos
That said: for the last couple years while I’ve been active duty US military, I’ve listened to your videos on deployment and making road trips every weekend (taking my daughter to see her grandparents and aunt) to stay awake and because I love pokemon. I don’t play competitive on switch, but showdown is a great way to pass the time and just wanted to say your videos make me laugh, smile, and wanted to give you a giant thank you!
I’ll do patreon eventually when my bills are caught up, keep up the great work!
Wish you all the best
I think subscribing is enough if you arent able/comfortable with other forms of support. Patreon mainly benfits you if you want opinions about tournament level teams and access to them as well as some other stuff.
If you really want to support him with additional money (when you have the opportunity), consider catching a stream if possible and looking for a way to support there with a donation or subscription.
You can obviously do whatever you want but patreon is not the only option you have and it might not be worth your while if the benefits dont apply to you
25:10 so the top 2 starters pokemons share the same trait then, literal personifications (or rather pokemon-ifications) of becoming so good (at supporting your team) that they can't ignore you
They are extremely good at supporting without the usual downsides of lacking damage etc.
I think thats a design flaw which shouldnt be repeated but power creep happens with long standing competitive franchises.
It also makes sense, considering that as starter pokemon, they are gonna have generally lower stats compared to other top tiers... so it's best for these pokemon to not act as the main damages but as support...
I love every single video and watch them with full attention the first time, but the callout for playing them in the background is so accurate 🤣 You're so articulate and pleasant to listen to! I listen to your videos whenever I'm cleaning, the Charlotte (Farigiraf), Orlando (Amoongus), and Perish Trap tournament videos are the only ones I have downloaded for all of RUclips! They're just the right amount of engaging to entertain me while letting me focus on other tasks, and I've listened to each one dozens of times! I love your content, and I look forward to it every week! Thank you for everything you do for your fans and community!!
12:05
He’s on to me. Hilarious that this was brought up for one of the relatively more rare times I’m not using the fact that Wolfy never yells and speaks low to sleep lmao
He got so tired of the dam cat he is done talking about HIM
Torracat obviously, since Inceneroar is #1
yea i agree.
small incineroar > not incineroar
@sleprvrru6y-lin-92
4 Legged Incineroar > Two Legged incin
Gotta hope if litten's the fire type starter in legends Z-A, Incin is four legged
And then, incineroar became six legged
12:00 THE CALL OUT BRO MAN IM GUILTY AS CHARGED
I'm glad to finally be acknowledged in a Wolfey video. I am on my third rewatch of this video because I love these videos to relax and fall asleep with.
11:57 when you’re talking about the viewers falling asleep that’s literally me rn and I bursted out laughing
Thank you Wolfie, I know and appreciate the amount of effort you and all the remaining squad put into making these videos for us
took 1 second to mention incinaroar
He mentioned incinaroar before the vid even began 🤣
-1 seconds
Wrong 😊
That pokemon will haunt him forever😂
It took 5 to mention incin,but it appears at 0:00
4:00 I had completely forgotten that meme. Thanks editors for reminding me of something I did not want to remember again.
Jokes on you, I don't know what the meme is so I kinda already forgot it
@@gwennaneliezer8490Mia Khalifa meme
Never seen it before. You guys should get outside more often
@@thewhitedread7572 stop projecting buddy
@@thewhitedread7572you’re watching a video about Pokémon’s competitive viability.
You don’t go outside either.
Wolfey calling me out at 12:00 mins haha
SAME LMAO
thank you so much for taking a picture with me at baltimore regionals i really hope you win!
wait theres so much hollow knight osts and sound effects in this omg 😭 i heard decisive battle, dung defender, fungle wastes, and daughter of hallownest. there was also a dung defender voice clip, the dream nail and grubberfly’s elegy swing sounds aaaaa
For anyone wondering, it took incineroar 5 seconds to appear in the video about the second best starter.
0 if he's on the cover
Yeah u can delete this comment now we alrdy had some other comment stating the same thing and it has higher likes numbers
@@goom3103 you can delete yourself now someone out there is like you but a better human in every way
@@Litterbugtaylor perfect response
@@Litterbugtaylor LMFAOO😭😭
Glad my girl Primarina made the cut! Always been one of my favs
Wolfe sleep club 12:16
Holy s. I was about to fall asleep!!
Holy crap I heard him say the line just as I was about to fall asleep 😂
I love how Incineroar is so busted that he automatically gets the top spot
I mean, wolfe did give it number 1 pokemon of all time in a previous video so it must logically also be the best starter.
The best starter pokemon: incineroar
The second best starter pokemon: incineroar
The best pokemon competitively: incineroar
The best pokemon in pokemon history: incineroar
The best pokemon for support: incineroar
The best pokemon to make wolfey annoyed: incineroar
The best pokemon that makes people think it fell off but it actually didn't: incineroar
The best pokemon to traumatize competitive players: incineroar
The best pokemon to dominate every single year it's legal: incineroar
Respect for writing this down
The second last line goes to Smeargle, when it could use Dark Void.
Eviolite Torrecat moment 🐱
As awesome as torracat is, no. I am PRETTY SURE, at LEAST incineroar, is only so good thanks to his signature move, his movepool is very good for his playstyle. While torracat I believe would be missing those moves.
@@CatLover-lk9gz incineroar doesnt run darkest lariat most of the time
@@xKachi What about other moves, surely incineroar runs a few moves that torracat can't. And to take it further, have we ever even seen torracat in competitive?
Torracat gets Fake Out and Parting Shot as well as Intimidate, and those are the most important moves in its set. It also keeps Taunt, Will-o-Wisp, Flare Blitz, Protect, U-turn, and rarely- used options like Swords Dance and Substitute.
It loses access to most Dark moves (and Dark type, so it loses immunity to Expanding Force and Prankster Taunt) but does still have Crunch. Knock Off is the biggest loss, not Darkest Lariat or Throat Chop. It also lacks most of Incin’s coverage options, but Incin never actually uses them.
Aside from that, those stats are an issue. Max Attack Adamant hits slightly harder than uninvested Incin, but if you want to make good use of that Eviolite then you won’t hit very hard.
People forget that Incineroar has insane bulk stats (95/90/90 are nuts even for defensive Pokémon). That, alone with Intimidate, Snarl and Parting Shot that just keep dropping the offensive stats of his opponents, are what makes it so good. Torracat doesn't have half as good bulk stats, even with Eviolite, so it wouldn't be as good.
The editing has improved so much on your videos mate! Bless your team!
Just wanted to say I'm a new member to the channel and i have been binge watching your videos while I have my annual Replay all my favorite pokemon games phase and its been awesome, thanks for the content and keep it up, you guys rock.
The Fallout Shelter success noise at 16:48 gave me immediate dopamine lmao
Just casually releases a video during every tournament he attends
For those of yall wondering, it took 3 seconds for incinaroar to be mentioned in a video about the second best starter pokemon.
11:57 being "most replayed" just says that most of us weren't paying attention at all😂😂
Appreciate the effort in getting a new thumbnail to this video! Looking nice!
I hear Decidueye is making waves in the new format, specifically the new form with its triple arrow ability. Maybe we can get a short on it that calls back to this video?
Especially since it murders the #1 pokemon since it has scrappy and hits it super effective. Same with Gholdengo
“Background noise” nahhh bro caught me, im just tired asf ok 😭
I'm convinced wolfey has daily hallucinations about incinaroar haunting him
Not me drifting off to sleep right as Wolfe calls me out for using the video as BGM
Absolutely love the Ad switch Wolfe and team :)
Thanks for the great content!!
I don't necessarily disagree with the 5 chosen, but I am disappointed that Swampert, Greninja, and Infernape don't at least get Honorable Mentions
Insane Swampert and Greninja aren't mentioned... But I guess VGC is different from speedrunning and singles
Probably haven't won enough Regionals or Champions to even be mentioned, which is completely understandable. No significant VGC wins = no mention.
Historically they have simply never had real significance in the last decade of VGC, except Swampert. Greninja has always been outclassed by bulky waters or swift swim users. Infernape has to compete with other physical fire types like Incin and arcanine for a slot and only recently got access to some much needed special moves. Swampert was the most used of the three during the era of Mega's, but base Swampert's abilities are terrible in doubles
1:18
Personally I love Primarina, it's my favourite water type starter and one of my favourite Pokémon of all time
11:59 "you are so valid btw. sweet dreams" how dare you call me out while I'm trying to nap! 🤣
Love watching your videos! It was amazing meeting you at Baltimore as you are a very pleasant person IRL! Hope you keep doing what you do and really enjoy learning from you! 😄
Here i am waking up on a Saturday morning and flipping on the new Wolfey video to fall back asleep to, like i normally do, when my half asleep mind is snapped awake by that fourth wall break
I’m just now realizing it, but Venasaur having the same base speed as Blaziken is criminal
Blaziken's speed and special attack should be swapped
youd be surprised how fast a frog can be compared to a chicken 😂
11:57 *Gets up from bed to type*
I don't appreciate the call out! D:
11:58 wolf knew some of us are using his videos to fall asleep :O
omg I was falling asleep accidentally (long day, you're not boring) when you called me out and I started laughing. I can't go back to sleep now because I'm too focused on the Venosaur info
Wolfie: talking about 2nd best starter pokemon
Incenroar: did you call me?
Wolfie: well yes but actually no
7:00 Flash Fire Chandelure laughing in the corner
Its kinda ironic how he said It after just talking about primarina LOL
But tbf It isnt even difficult to resist, theres a ton of mons who come to mind that resist the stabs
0:01 the upcoming ZA-incenroar
12:01 oh my god its 2 am and i play wolfe's vids to help me sleep cause it's lowkey relaxing to hear him ramble about competitive pokemon even if i dont get what he's talking about 50% of the time
Man I have been watching so much mobile game content (the production value of most RUclipsrs content on those games is C tier at best) I completely forgot how nice videos with S tier editing and a charismatic person who’s fluent in English are
0:41 probably it’s Rillaboom
Or charizard. But you’re probably right
What i thought
Wolfe Glick: "Do people like Primarina?"
Oh ho ho ho ho HE DOESN'T KNOW
The moment u said 11:57 was when i was mid trying to nap lmaooo
11:55 ok i'm in the middle of trying to nap and just tuned back in to see what pokemon was being discussed. Thanks for validating me 🥰
I can't help myself!!
You're voice is just really soothing...
I am here for Wolfey embracing the Incineroar love. Best starter Pokémon ever
If the way Wolfey shows love to a Pokémon is by making it the comedic punching bag throughout the vid, then I agree.
Is Wartortle
Oof, don't check his most recent twitter post. 😂
Wolfy had to stop all the bot comments from saying Incinaroar
Because he was in the thumbnail it technically took incineroar 0 seconds to show up in the video
WolfeyVGC happy to see your channel prospering! Been watching since you had 15k subs. You really came a long way keep up the great content !
Amazing video as always. Small, purely subjective critique: I'd prefer if the silhouettes of the list weren't shown in the beginning. I was in the middle of making friendly bets with my best friend while watching this and the silhouetted list kinda took away the suspense. I know the video switched 2 of them, but still. Really not a big deal I just thought I'd say something to draw attention to it so y'all consider how you wanna do it.
2:55 Incineroar got killed
L bozo
@@OhItsPara yes
He's fine he intimidated the tree and then resisted wood hammer.
@@terranproulx721 true
1:20 I like Primarina
As do I
I like primarina
Primarina’s my favorite starter ☺️
@@eliasarguello9961male primarina is a thing
@@zecomrade82 you’re right! My bad haha
The spanish title of the video is wrong, it says "Who is the second WORST starter pokémon?"
Hopefully the editors will see this comment and fix it so spanish speakers won't get confused.
12:00 i cant even lie, i do watch the videos when im sleeping, but i end up watching them fully 😅
Dang Wolfey im feeling called out for using your videos to fall asleep too 😭 i cant help listening to you talk pokemon is relaxing bro
18:40 Next video maybe?????
Who are the 3 best megas btw? I can only think of 2, Kangaskhan and Mawile
Audino for sure
I actually adore Primarina! Definitely overhated.
i like primarina's cry
It sounds so aesthetically pleasing
Literally called me out at 11:56 while rewatching the video because I put it on as background noise to fall asleep
It's really funny that this was uploaded during Baltimore regionals because 12 different starters made Day 2 haha
its definitely terastallized incineroar
Terra psychic incineroar
For reference, it takes Incineroar 4 seconds to appear in a video about the second best starter Pokémon
Obligatory toracatt joke
Primarina lover here. Thank you for featuring them in this video even if they're not the second best Pokemon 🙏
Wolfe is the reason why I started building competitive teams and learning to play pokemon for realsies honestly
Editors do such a great job with these videos!
I love your style of videos lately. Never disappoints
Imagine if Primarina could learn Boomburst... Now that would be a great way to utilize its hidden ability to its fullest potential.