Crosswind landing accident, sounds like somebody wasnt up to date on his Crosswind limitations? I flew a super 21 for 5 years before upgrading to a 201 and all I can say is the Mooneys never let me down! Great performance in its category, very economical and you could cover some serious ground. I sold my 201 about 15 years ago since I stopped flying for work and there are days I sure miss it!
If he was or wasn't up to date I'm not sure, guarantee he wished he'd gone home instead of trying to force it. Incident happened at 14S Westport WA which claims a few planes a year. It was his third attempt.... no bueno.
@@HairHelmet Third attempt? very bad outcome. The last thing in the world you want to do with a Mooney is force it down, not much prop clearance and your guaranteed to hit it on the runway. I had a friend he was the owner of the FBO I kept my plane at and he had an older Mooney and he bellied it in TWICE forgetting to drop the gear! I suggested a landing check list one time and he looked at me like I was crazy! I put almost 5000 hrs on the two Mooneys I owned and I used a check list every time I flew the plane no matter how used to it I got!
@@karlk6860 when we pulled the covers off the belly, the gear retraction tubes were both bowed and the right side broke in half as I removed it. Gear were down but he definitely forced it. Fortunately the prop came to a gentle stop in the mud after skidding off the runway on the nose gear/flaps/tail skid. I've got 200 hours on this plane now and skipped the checklist before takeoff 2 or 3 times and regretted it each time. I use the checklist in Foreflight but I find it a hassle to try to use one device for too many things.... like using your phone for music in the car along with gps, etc. There's no replacement for a simple paper checklist.
@@HairHelmet Its amazing what happens after a miss hap in a plane. I think its absolutely great what you have done to get this bird in the air again, lots of labor and it sounds like a fair bit of parts also. Rather amazing about the prop and hub, since it wasnt really a hit directly on the prop did that mean that you didnt have to magnaflux the prop hub or crank and rods? If not that would be a great $$$ saver. When I bought my M20E the previous owner ran the plane off the end of the runway and he did have a hard prop strike along with a fair bit of other repairs to make. But He had a Mattituck Overhaul done, he replaced the wing tips with some very beautiful shaped pieces, the entire cowl on the plane was changed to some new style and he hid all the antenna/receivers/transmitters in the wing tips and in the belly skin of the plane, his claim was those mods were good for another 10 knots in cruise form, I dont know if this is true because I owned a Piper Arrow prior to the M20E and the Piper was a crate compared to the Moonies!
@@karlk6860 The extent of necessary inspections tip to tip after an incident is overwhelming. Every damaged part has a domino effect with more inspections and fixes down the line. I was very fortunate with the nature of the prop strike, there wasn’t a single scratch on the blades despite one being bent under the nose and the prop was still able to be overhauled! The crank dialed at .001 which is factory spec and the IA was comfortable signing off on it after we replaced the crank gear and complied with the AD’s. Prop governor, mags, carb, etc were overhauled/inspected as well. Engine had 670 hours, ported (6-8 hp per cylinder), balanced, chromed. Lower cowling was beyond repair. I’ll have to do a video on all of the parts we upgraded or replaced since most of it is still in the hangar. A video log would justify throwing the stuff out along with finding some pictures of the incident. The only thing I wish I had is transcontinental range since I’ve only got 44g. Until the economy improves, I’m hesitant to do additional upgrades. If a pile of money landed on my lap I’d probably go for the LX7 turboprop made in Redmond OR. Or get crazy and convert a Mooney to turboprop…
@@HairHelmet yes it is the learning experience! I’m trying to get all my other certifications I.e IR rating, Multi-Engine etc. and still find time to work on the Mooney as well. Good stuff dude.
Two things you'll need are the Mooney Service Manual and Mooney Parts Manual, likely to cost around $100-150 for the pair. If you can find an aircraft mechanic with Mooney experience you'll save a lot of time and money over the long haul. There are some special tools for proper rigging of the gear to set the right tension. If you've got a Mooney mechanic he'll have the tools, otherwise you'll want to invest in those for whomever does your inspections/sign offs. Hope this helps.
This is true, and a couple factors really affected the time/money aspect. 1: We were days away from test flying in May 2020 and found corrosion in the spar which cost 15k to repair in Texas. 2: I’m THAT guy that gets carried away with upgrades and mods. It probably cost roughly 40k and 6 months to get it airworthy otherwise. x 2.5 and we’re in the ballpark but she’s a screamer! A flying 201 would have been the wiser investment, bright side is I know this plane inside and out.
GOOD LUCK ON THE PLANE SAVING!!!!!!!!!!!
You rock, thanks for stopping by!
As a fellow Mooniac, God bless you for saving one of the 6,000 or so Mooneys made.
It certainly wasn't a rational decision, nor the upgrades along the way but it's a great flying airplane now.
Crosswind landing accident, sounds like somebody wasnt up to date on his Crosswind limitations? I flew a super 21 for 5 years before upgrading to a 201 and all I can say is the Mooneys never let me down! Great performance in its category, very economical and you could cover some serious ground. I sold my 201 about 15 years ago since I stopped flying for work and there are days I sure miss it!
If he was or wasn't up to date I'm not sure, guarantee he wished he'd gone home instead of trying to force it. Incident happened at 14S Westport WA which claims a few planes a year. It was his third attempt.... no bueno.
@@HairHelmet Third attempt? very bad outcome. The last thing in the world you want to do with a Mooney is force it down, not much prop clearance and your guaranteed to hit it on the runway. I had a friend he was the owner of the FBO I kept my plane at and he had an older Mooney and he bellied it in TWICE forgetting to drop the gear! I suggested a landing check list one time and he looked at me like I was crazy! I put almost 5000 hrs on the two Mooneys I owned and I used a check list every time I flew the plane no matter how used to it I got!
@@karlk6860 when we pulled the covers off the belly, the gear retraction tubes were both bowed and the right side broke in half as I removed it. Gear were down but he definitely forced it. Fortunately the prop came to a gentle stop in the mud after skidding off the runway on the nose gear/flaps/tail skid. I've got 200 hours on this plane now and skipped the checklist before takeoff 2 or 3 times and regretted it each time.
I use the checklist in Foreflight but I find it a hassle to try to use one device for too many things.... like using your phone for music in the car along with gps, etc. There's no replacement for a simple paper checklist.
@@HairHelmet Its amazing what happens after a miss hap in a plane. I think its absolutely great what you have done to get this bird in the air again, lots of labor and it sounds like a fair bit of parts also. Rather amazing about the prop and hub, since it wasnt really a hit directly on the prop did that mean that you didnt have to magnaflux the prop hub or crank and rods? If not that would be a great $$$ saver. When I bought my M20E the previous owner ran the plane off the end of the runway and he did have a hard prop strike along with a fair bit of other repairs to make. But He had a Mattituck Overhaul done, he replaced the wing tips with some very beautiful shaped pieces, the entire cowl on the plane was changed to some new style and he hid all the antenna/receivers/transmitters in the wing tips and in the belly skin of the plane, his claim was those mods were good for another 10 knots in cruise form, I dont know if this is true because I owned a Piper Arrow prior to the M20E and the Piper was a crate compared to the Moonies!
@@karlk6860 The extent of necessary inspections tip to tip after an incident is overwhelming. Every damaged part has a domino effect with more inspections and fixes down the line. I was very fortunate with the nature of the prop strike, there wasn’t a single scratch on the blades despite one being bent under the nose and the prop was still able to be overhauled! The crank dialed at .001 which is factory spec and the IA was comfortable signing off on it after we replaced the crank gear and complied with the AD’s. Prop governor, mags, carb, etc were overhauled/inspected as well. Engine had 670 hours, ported (6-8 hp per cylinder), balanced, chromed. Lower cowling was beyond repair. I’ll have to do a video on all of the parts we upgraded or replaced since most of it is still in the hangar. A video log would justify throwing the stuff out along with finding some pictures of the incident. The only thing I wish I had is transcontinental range since I’ve only got 44g. Until the economy improves, I’m hesitant to do additional upgrades. If a pile of money landed on my lap I’d probably go for the LX7 turboprop made in Redmond OR. Or get crazy and convert a Mooney to turboprop…
Nice 👍. I’m in the process of restoring mine. Just bought a 1968 Mooney M20C 😎
I've got about 250 hours on it now, quite the learning experience throughout.
@@HairHelmet yes it is the learning experience! I’m trying to get all my other certifications I.e IR rating, Multi-Engine etc. and still find time to work on the Mooney as well. Good stuff dude.
Awesome!! looking forward to see the final product!!.. Good job on saving this beautiful airplane and not scrapping it.
So this is the plane I rode in???? 😳🤣 amazing 👏
Good thing you didn't watch the video before getting a ride!
I have a 1969 Mooney m20e that I'm putting together or at least trying to LoL. I like to know how do you setup the landing gears?
Two things you'll need are the Mooney Service Manual and Mooney Parts Manual, likely to cost around $100-150 for the pair. If you can find an aircraft mechanic with Mooney experience you'll save a lot of time and money over the long haul. There are some special tools for proper rigging of the gear to set the right tension. If you've got a Mooney mechanic he'll have the tools, otherwise you'll want to invest in those for whomever does your inspections/sign offs. Hope this helps.
Lovely. I can't wait to see her flying again.
I'll catch up on the videos soon, first flight was 5/31/20
Hero’s saving an old Mooney, High Five!
Nice work, I would think it would be cheaper finding a plane that works. Just seems like a lot of time and money in a project like this.
This is true, and a couple factors really affected the time/money aspect. 1: We were days away from test flying in May 2020 and found corrosion in the spar which cost 15k to repair in Texas. 2: I’m THAT guy that gets carried away with upgrades and mods. It probably cost roughly 40k and 6 months to get it airworthy otherwise. x 2.5 and we’re in the ballpark but she’s a screamer! A flying 201 would have been the wiser investment, bright side is I know this plane inside and out.
Well the student pilot said he did the walk round checks.....
Famous last words....