Goes to show even how evidence is interpreted can lead to strikingly dissimilar decision-making. But shoutout to Dr. Mike for betting on pump and soreness!
@simranjitkohli3747 Dr. Mike always treats Milo with respect, but Milo seems to like to throw shade at Dr. Mike. Honestly, Milo just comes across as a tad arrogant and unnecessarily pedantic when critiqueing others.
I like the comment about a synergistic effect from combining passive and active tension. I've found good results from doing 3 second pauses in the bottom of lengthened partial calf raises (learned from Alberto Nunez) and dumbell bench press. The main benefit is that I can use lower loads and reduce the fatigue on my joints. I still do regular higher load work.
27:44 "If you looking to maximize, get every ounce of muscle that you can out of the exercise. And why not, if you have the opportunity?" - haha, that's why we love guys like Brad!)
Thanks for making a great video! Maybe we should look at the study of Schmidtbleicher from 1987 when he tested 59 individuals with different regimens for four groups and determined which rep range are being best for muscle building and at the same time for decreased central nervous activity - video just touched this part and I missed some more in deep discussion about that. Also not a lot was being told about the tempo of each rep. Hatfield goes into theory of using multiple different rep ranges to cover all ground for exhausting different muscle types for maximal hypertrophy, any comments about that one? Rest times are really a tricky ones and I missed more of the debate going into this directions; Studies: -Commeti going for 3min rest -Kramer going for 1min rest -Zaciorskij going for 40-50 sec rest -Verchosanskij going for 1-2min rest Maybe a little more detailed debate about yearly programs and mesocycles,programming for natural bodybuilders as firstly forcing strength training and pushing CNS to the edge, then going into hypertrophy,how this mechanism works,supercompensatuon,etc. Maybe a touch of IGF 1 and 2 binding to satellite cells as they are mentioned in video. Maybe referring Bosco&co from 1994 as claiming that cronical workout changes the structure of muscle itself… Maybe connect endocrine system with workouts to get clearer picture about all the processes involved in hypertrophy. Discussion about endocrine system during and after workout, carb and protein time feeding, glut4 and glut6 mechanism,etc. I know it’s a lot of ground to cover and there is just half an hour of time but still, I just missed some parts to be discussed more deeply…I just love this type of videos as you don’t get opportunity to get this type of information from a man that poses a lot of knowledge…
Great hypertrophic talk, thanks for sharing 💪🏼! Also nice that you visually showed the literature/research that was spoken about. Just two tips for improvement: Would appreciate it, if you'd ... 1.) ... put links to the mentioned studies/scientific reviews (the websites where they can be found) in the video description (would make it easier to further deep dive as oneself) and ... 2.)... added certain time stamps to the different questions/topics of the video (could also increase watch time, because as a viewer you'd then know which topics will come in the future of the video). Only meant constructively, I think this would better the quality of your videos even more. Strength training enthusiastic greetings from Germany 🤙🏼 Stavros
@@MegaPoliyo naw. He disagreed with long length partials only vs full rom + pause, with Dr Mike saying you should pause during the stretch position, and on deloads especially. Also how accurate people are at estimating their RIR
31:41 funniest shit I've ever seen. Schoenfeld's saying "shout out to my two colleagues" and you're already making an unhinged series of gang signs at the camera.
I got Rhabdomyolysis trying to train in the summer while also working a labor job ever since I've been anxious about lifting does anyone know how to prevent this if I want to get back into lifting
Hmm. I work full time in an Amazon delivery warehouse and strength train full-body 5x/Wk, up to 30 weekly sets per muscle group, 0-2 RIR, and l barely feel fatigue. But I'm not sure if I have any useful advice to give, especially without knowing more about what you were doing or what your job was like.
First, make sure you eat and sleep well enough. Those are essential for our health, well-being and results from training, so they are not negotiable. Rather spend less time training and more time sleeping, then opposite. Especially when you have physical labor. How to start lifting: Start easy. Do full body 2 times per week. Start your first day with 1 set per muscle group not super close to failure, just give it a shot. On next one try 2 sets not to failure. Second week try 2 sets per week, again, on each muscle group. Little closer to failure. Work up to 2-3 sets per muscle 2 times per week close to failure on your 3rd week. Do this for a while, see, how it feels. If you can slowly increase your performance in the gym with time, adding rep here and there and little weight here and there, and you dont see decline in performance, and also you dont have soreness, you can add little more volume. Tho i'm personally would recommend try not to make every single session super challenging and rather do more sessions, because you dont want to be sore next day for your labor job. You can do more hardcore session before weekend, but before working days - try to stay on easy side. If you see decline in performance in the gym, you can skip next training session. This not bad, if would give your body time to recover and adapt to the next-next session in which you would be ready to perform. If you see, that your performance drop regulary, do less volume or less sessions. So in the end of a day, start easy and autoregulate based on your performance and how you feel.
Did I miss the part, that they discussed genetics? You can train all you like and eat... take.... and if the underlying genetics are not present, the gains if any will be.... hardly noticeable.
I can't bear the fact that many times fallacy channels like Athlean-X has 150 approximately more subscribers than EXTREMELY GOOD channels like yours and Dr Wolf's
People complicate this way too much. First of all, if you’re not at least a hardcore intermediate you won’t understand how to properly apply this knowledge. Most people don’t even know what true failure is. Most aren’t even close to getting enough calories in. Most are adding junk volume and moving the weight without proper contraction
Absolutely wild that we can get this level of education for free. I feel like a criminal. Thank you all for your great work.
You're a smooth criminal. You're just like Michael Jackson!
In every way 🤨
doing dr. brad schoenfeld dirty in the thumbnail
It’s how he looks bro
You can credit brads parents, actually
check @3:49
The evidence is not compelling 😉
AGAIN
Brad is a bit of a legend and you did a fantastic job leading the conversation. 10/10
Milo's face when Dr. Schoenfield recommends looking for pump and soreness as a small part of one's routine.
Goes to show even how evidence is interpreted can lead to strikingly dissimilar decision-making. But shoutout to Dr. Mike for betting on pump and soreness!
@@chayoto I think Milo might have put RP on a lower tier list, also to get more video engagement
@simranjitkohli3747 Dr. Mike always treats Milo with respect, but Milo seems to like to throw shade at Dr. Mike. Honestly, Milo just comes across as a tad arrogant and unnecessarily pedantic when critiqueing others.
@@chayotoI also believe that team full ROM will triumph over lengthened partials in the long run.
@@onurbole7921and why do you believe that? Because you feel like it?
Any video featuring Dr. Schoenfeld's treasure trove of information is a good video! 🐐🐐
After this talk, even my brain has muscles.
I like the comment about a synergistic effect from combining passive and active tension. I've found good results from doing 3 second pauses in the bottom of lengthened partial calf raises (learned from Alberto Nunez) and dumbell bench press. The main benefit is that I can use lower loads and reduce the fatigue on my joints. I still do regular higher load work.
27:44 "If you looking to maximize, get every ounce of muscle that you can out of the exercise. And why not, if you have the opportunity?" - haha, that's why we love guys like Brad!)
Thank you for sharing this extremely interesting conversation.
Chain and parallel sarcomeres in relation to different types of loads and movements is what I find most interesting.
Thanks for making a great video!
Maybe we should look at the study of Schmidtbleicher from 1987 when he tested 59 individuals with different regimens for four groups and determined which rep range are being best for muscle building and at the same time for decreased central nervous activity - video just touched this part and I missed some more in deep discussion about that. Also not a lot was being told about the tempo of each rep.
Hatfield goes into theory of using multiple different rep ranges to cover all ground for exhausting different muscle types for maximal hypertrophy, any comments about that one?
Rest times are really a tricky ones and I missed more of the debate going into this directions;
Studies:
-Commeti going for 3min rest
-Kramer going for 1min rest
-Zaciorskij going for 40-50 sec rest
-Verchosanskij going for 1-2min rest
Maybe a little more detailed debate about yearly programs and mesocycles,programming for natural bodybuilders as firstly forcing strength training and pushing CNS to the edge, then going into hypertrophy,how this mechanism works,supercompensatuon,etc.
Maybe a touch of IGF 1 and 2 binding to satellite cells as they are mentioned in video.
Maybe referring Bosco&co from 1994 as claiming that cronical workout changes the structure of muscle itself…
Maybe connect endocrine system with workouts to get clearer picture about all the processes involved in hypertrophy.
Discussion about endocrine system during and after workout, carb and protein time feeding, glut4 and glut6 mechanism,etc.
I know it’s a lot of ground to cover and there is just half an hour of time but still, I just missed some parts to be discussed more deeply…I just love this type of videos as you don’t get opportunity to get this type of information from a man that poses a lot of knowledge…
Just what I wanted to hear while documenting at work 👌
Funny thing is that one of the most robust hypotheses is arguably that picking heavy things up and putting them down grows muscle
Great hypertrophic talk, thanks for sharing 💪🏼!
Also nice that you visually showed the literature/research that was spoken about.
Just two tips for improvement: Would appreciate it, if you'd ...
1.) ... put links to the mentioned studies/scientific reviews (the websites where they can be found) in the video description (would make it easier to further deep dive as oneself) and ...
2.)... added certain time stamps to the different questions/topics of the video (could also increase watch time, because as a viewer you'd then know which topics will come in the future of the video).
Only meant constructively, I think this would better the quality of your videos even more.
Strength training enthusiastic greetings from Germany 🤙🏼
Stavros
One of the best intros ever!
Bro the thumbnail is insane
Absolutely amazing!
Pak wearing a junji ito t-shirt is peak 💪
The granddaddy of hypertrophy. I'm so pumped just from reading the title.
The three best sources of fitness information on the web in one place, great collab
I'd swap out wolf for Israretel personally. Wolf is just stretch stretch stretch we get it.
@@MegaPoliyo naw. He disagreed with long length partials only vs full rom + pause, with Dr Mike saying you should pause during the stretch position, and on deloads especially. Also how accurate people are at estimating their RIR
That was some introduction to Dr Marks. Friend and potential lover ? Brad works out at my gym sometimes in Westchester,NY
31:41 funniest shit I've ever seen. Schoenfeld's saying "shout out to my two colleagues" and you're already making an unhinged series of gang signs at the camera.
knowledge is power
Good questions
I got Rhabdomyolysis trying to train in the summer while also working a labor job ever since I've been anxious about lifting does anyone know how to prevent this if I want to get back into lifting
Hmm. I work full time in an Amazon delivery warehouse and strength train full-body 5x/Wk, up to 30 weekly sets per muscle group, 0-2 RIR, and l barely feel fatigue. But I'm not sure if I have any useful advice to give, especially without knowing more about what you were doing or what your job was like.
First, make sure you eat and sleep well enough. Those are essential for our health, well-being and results from training, so they are not negotiable. Rather spend less time training and more time sleeping, then opposite. Especially when you have physical labor.
How to start lifting:
Start easy. Do full body 2 times per week.
Start your first day with 1 set per muscle group not super close to failure, just give it a shot. On next one try 2 sets not to failure.
Second week try 2 sets per week, again, on each muscle group. Little closer to failure.
Work up to 2-3 sets per muscle 2 times per week close to failure on your 3rd week. Do this for a while, see, how it feels. If you can slowly increase your performance in the gym with time, adding rep here and there and little weight here and there, and you dont see decline in performance, and also you dont have soreness, you can add little more volume. Tho i'm personally would recommend try not to make every single session super challenging and rather do more sessions, because you dont want to be sore next day for your labor job. You can do more hardcore session before weekend, but before working days - try to stay on easy side.
If you see decline in performance in the gym, you can skip next training session. This not bad, if would give your body time to recover and adapt to the next-next session in which you would be ready to perform. If you see, that your performance drop regulary, do less volume or less sessions.
So in the end of a day, start easy and autoregulate based on your performance and how you feel.
@@domtgtheonly1 how do you know you got it? You could just have been overreached or overtrained...its very rear
No doubt your Rhabdomyolysis diagnosis was clearly defined by a medical examination?
If so - what was the medical advice that you received?
@@watsonkushmaster3067 I went to the hospital
Vampire, Greek and a Wolf
Interesting Comb
The classic nightmare combo
Can we hear which “special supplements” and how many ml per week ?
Did I miss the part, that they discussed genetics?
You can train all you like and eat... take.... and if the underlying genetics are not present, the gains if any will be.... hardly noticeable.
genetics is overhyped. if you train. eat and sleep your gonna gain
Is there any point in talking about something you can't meaningfully change?
It's like a professors taking a class of kids.
imagine if all fields were this dedicated to pop communication
That outro music is weird AF.
😢
Dr Brad gotta get the Dr Pak haircut for sure
And tattoos
Dr. Schoenfeld is a wealth of knowledge, but I just couldn’t help staring at Milo’s massively long hairy right quad. That thing looks never ending
I don’t believe that muscle soreness isn’t to do with muscle repair and growth…….no way….. imo
Hey you guyyyyyssssss!
Where are Milo's pants?
Just pump it up
I can't bear the fact that many times fallacy channels like Athlean-X has 150 approximately more subscribers than EXTREMELY GOOD channels like yours and Dr Wolf's
Are we getting subs in other languages anytime soon? If not, may I volunteer as a translator?
For the algorithm
One minute in and DONG. 😂
Testosterone secretes sarcomeres. Hence the illustration demonstrating the testosterone chamber.
Cracker Jack Dr's. They give out diplomas to anybody😅. I'm just kidding. Good content.
Equivocal = we don't know
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The guy on the left looks really ill ...😢
All this science bullshit , just go fkin train hard, eat, rest and repeat 🤦🏻♂️
This dude is small and clueless. He can't even train to failure
It seems all you're saying works only in theory. Otherwise you should be able to show off at least some muscle built by your theory.
The three biggest doofuses in the industry, sitting at one table. What a lineup. We are only missing Mike Israetel and Jeff Nippard.
Yeah, and historical idiots like Einstein. Actual fucking pea brains, right?
Pretty safe to say SBS now has the best video production in the community
Really cool video, love the collab
How to build muscle featuring brad the smack head who would of been amazing in train spotting
People complicate this way too much.
First of all, if you’re not at least a hardcore intermediate you won’t understand how to properly apply this knowledge.
Most people don’t even know what true failure is.
Most aren’t even close to getting enough calories in.
Most are adding junk volume and moving the weight without proper contraction