The Italians succeeded and moved east to the suburbs just like other groups. There are or were many cool Italian delis/markets/restaurants in the San Gabriel Valley. These areas are now thriving and predominantly Asian/Chinese. There are still remnants.
❤1990 my parents retired and they built there dream house in Jiltipece Mexico. The neighbors were Italian, they been living in Mexico since 1940 due to racism in New York. They kept the language and culture. , i was amazed. They are more Mexicano now, but their story was beautiful. Chicano Mexicano Beverly Hills Downey California. 😢
My Great-Grandfather's paved the way in the 1910s, by-passing New York because all the best jobs had been taken there and came straight to Los Angeles where Little Italy was already forming in the area spoken about in this video.. They worked very hard, saving enough money to bring the rest of the family from the old country. 2 of great-grandmothers died very young in Italy while awaiting this venture. Then WWI was proclaimed basically leaving 2 of my grandparents to eventually make their way to America traveling alone as young teens. By this time Little Italy was flourishing. All four of my grandparents married there, in St. Peter's Italian Church. My parent's married there, and both my sister and I were baptized there, as well. So, I am 1 of a few 100% Italian-Americans left in SoCal from this community. When the Pasadena Fwy was being built it dissected the community where all the Italians were living forcing them to uproot & find new homes in nearby suburbs. Many Italians married into other nationalities, including me & my subsequent daughters. My grandchildren are now 1 qtr. Italian but I will be the one to keep that part of their heritage alive. I also in my youth, being a singer, performed many times with Italian bands & orchestras at the Italian Hall. -Sandra Canzone
It's not smaller, Anarchist Atheist, it's more dispersed. After world War !!, the L. A. Italians moved to the suburbs of San Fernando and San Gabriel Valleys. Also, unlike the cities of the East Coast and the Midwest, Los Angeles Italians intermarried early with other ethnic groups. The greatest mix was with the Latinos of the the time, Californios and later Mexican immigrants but, historically, people outside of L. A. have looked upon those unions due to disdain from racism but the historical record is there. As Marianna Gatto points out, the historic core of Los Angeles was always ethnically mixed. This has been a hallmark of Los Angeles culture. The reason that the Mexican presence is so noticeable has been the near-continuous immigration of Mexicans throughout the history of Los Angeles. Nonetheless, the more recent Mexican-Americans have little to no connection nor knowledge of the Spanish Calfornios who founded Los Angeles nor the early Mexican and Chilean immigrants who intermarried greatly with the Italians who immigrated to Los Angeles. The story of how the Peluffo Family turned it's Cafe Italiano into El Paseo Inn speaks volumes of the intercultural richness this city has always had and less (though there have been ethnic/racial flareups in Los Angeles, to be sure) segregation of ethnic communities than in New York and the East Coast. Tellingly, while Midwesterners and Easterners of non-WASP cultures still claim neighborhoods and display cultural identity through festivals, the tendency in Los Angeles has been to "hybridize", fuse different cultural traditions and create a uniquely Angeleno culture. Where else do tamales become almost standard fare for the Holidays? Who else eats Korean Tacos? Who else routinely buys pinatas for birthday parties? Where did the all[-purpose use of Sriacha and salsas in American cooking originate and still have their biggest following? In Los Angeles. So, the Italian Angelenos respect their traditions and are still very much here but they see themselves as part of widespread Angeleno culture rather than a more strictly-defined Italian-American culture.
I have cousins came san fernando valley near dodger stadium around 1900 one of sons started western gillette trucking 1930s and he owned another trucking company called cantley a n d tanzola trucking my cousin owned a home in beverley hills his wife sold it to Paul newman
joe shmo I’m not 100 percent sure but I think Italians used to run their shit until Mexicans started getting deeper into the drug business and hoods and all of that Italians were probably running things but decided to leave heard they even used to be in east la
@@bobblehead7732 You can call me any name that you can think of but doing that doesn't change the historical record. You can choose to ignore it because of your racism. Because many Mexicans have indigenous blood and darker skin than yours, that makes them less desirable humans than you yet Mexicans, Italians, Chinese, Jews from Eastern European countries, Serbians, Croatians, and Japanese immigrants lived side-by-side not only in the Olvera Street area but in Boyle Heights, Lincoln Heights, and Bunker Hill. Many friendships and marriages were forged among those people. A good friend of mine talked about how Mickey Cohen (L. A.'s most powerful and notorious gangster) learned his trade and learned from other Jewish, Mexican, and Italian gangsters in the Lincoln Heights/Boyle Heights area. As the other immigrant groups assimilated and moved to the suburbs, including Mexicans, conditions in Mexico continued to add more immigrants into Los Angeles. That's why the Mexican presence seems more noticeable than other immigrant communities although, God knows, there are ethnic communities everywhere in L. A., not just Mexicans. So no, Bobblehead, the Italians didn't leave the Olvera Street area because of Mexican lowlifes coming in. That's the "smoke " I told you you were blowing in my last comment.
The Italians succeeded and moved east to the suburbs just like other groups. There are or were many cool Italian delis/markets/restaurants in the San Gabriel Valley. These areas are now thriving and predominantly Asian/Chinese. There are still remnants.
Elvera street is Mexico before california.
❤1990 my parents retired and they built there dream house in Jiltipece Mexico. The neighbors were Italian, they been living in Mexico since 1940 due to racism in New York. They kept the language and culture. , i was amazed. They are more Mexicano now, but their story was beautiful. Chicano Mexicano Beverly Hills Downey California. 😢
My Great-Grandfather's paved the way in the 1910s, by-passing New York because all the best jobs had been taken there and came straight to Los Angeles where Little Italy was already forming in the area spoken about in this video.. They worked very hard, saving enough money to bring the rest of the family from the old country. 2 of great-grandmothers died very young in Italy while awaiting this venture. Then WWI was proclaimed basically leaving 2 of my grandparents to eventually make their way to America traveling alone as young teens. By this time Little Italy was flourishing. All four of my grandparents married there, in St. Peter's Italian Church. My parent's married there, and both my sister and I were baptized there, as well. So, I am 1 of a few 100% Italian-Americans left in SoCal from this community. When the Pasadena Fwy was being built it dissected the community where all the Italians were living forcing them to uproot & find new homes in nearby suburbs. Many Italians married into other nationalities, including me & my subsequent daughters. My grandchildren are now 1 qtr. Italian but I will be the one to keep that part of their heritage alive. I also in my youth, being a singer, performed many times with Italian bands & orchestras at the Italian Hall. -Sandra Canzone
It's strange that LA, has a smaller Italian population then Chicago, or New York city despite it having the same climate of southern Italy.
It's not smaller, Anarchist Atheist, it's more dispersed. After world War !!, the L. A. Italians moved to the suburbs of San Fernando and San Gabriel Valleys. Also, unlike the cities of the East Coast and the Midwest, Los Angeles Italians intermarried early with other ethnic groups. The greatest mix was with the Latinos of the the time, Californios and later Mexican immigrants but, historically, people outside of L. A. have looked upon those unions due to disdain from racism but the historical record is there. As Marianna Gatto points out, the historic core of Los Angeles was always ethnically mixed. This has been a hallmark of Los Angeles culture. The reason that the Mexican presence is so noticeable has been the near-continuous immigration of Mexicans throughout the history of Los Angeles. Nonetheless, the more recent Mexican-Americans have little to no connection nor knowledge of the Spanish Calfornios who founded Los Angeles nor the early Mexican and Chilean immigrants who intermarried greatly with the Italians who immigrated to Los Angeles. The story of how the Peluffo Family turned it's Cafe Italiano into El Paseo Inn speaks volumes of the intercultural richness this city has always had and less (though there have been ethnic/racial flareups in Los Angeles, to be sure) segregation of ethnic communities than in New York and the East Coast. Tellingly, while Midwesterners and Easterners of non-WASP cultures still claim neighborhoods and display cultural identity through festivals, the tendency in Los Angeles has been to "hybridize", fuse different cultural traditions and create a uniquely Angeleno culture. Where else do tamales become almost standard fare for the Holidays? Who else eats Korean Tacos? Who else routinely buys pinatas for birthday parties? Where did the all[-purpose use of Sriacha and salsas in American cooking originate and still have their biggest following? In Los Angeles. So, the Italian Angelenos respect their traditions and are still very much here but they see themselves as part of widespread Angeleno culture rather than a more strictly-defined Italian-American culture.
I have cousins came san fernando valley near dodger stadium around 1900 one of sons started western gillette trucking 1930s and he owned another trucking company called cantley a n d tanzola trucking my cousin owned a home in beverley hills his wife sold it to Paul newman
What about little Joe's
That came later on.
Greatly made thumbs up
Very interesting information and well done.
P.S. by the way, was surprised that the restaurant Little Joe's wasn't mentioned.
asian and italians were on olvera street before mexicans?
Yep. In that area, there was Joe's Italian Restaurant, Italian Catholic Church.
joe shmo I’m not 100 percent sure but I think Italians used to run their shit until Mexicans started getting deeper into the drug business and hoods and all of that Italians were probably running things but decided to leave heard they even used to be in east la
@@bobblehead7732 Don't go there because you'd be puffing smoke. What you said had almost no basis in reality.
Mr. LA Tours foh u old man
@@bobblehead7732 You can call me any name that you can think of but doing that doesn't change the historical record. You can choose to ignore it because of your racism. Because many Mexicans have indigenous blood and darker skin than yours, that makes them less desirable humans than you yet Mexicans, Italians, Chinese, Jews from Eastern European countries, Serbians, Croatians, and Japanese immigrants lived side-by-side not only in the Olvera Street area but in Boyle Heights, Lincoln Heights, and Bunker Hill. Many friendships and marriages were forged among those people. A good friend of mine talked about how Mickey Cohen (L. A.'s most powerful and notorious gangster) learned his trade and learned from other Jewish, Mexican, and Italian gangsters in the Lincoln Heights/Boyle Heights area. As the other immigrant groups assimilated and moved to the suburbs, including Mexicans, conditions in Mexico continued to add more immigrants into Los Angeles. That's why the Mexican presence seems more noticeable than other immigrant communities although, God knows, there are ethnic communities everywhere in L. A., not just Mexicans. So no, Bobblehead, the Italians didn't leave the Olvera Street area because of Mexican lowlifes coming in. That's the "smoke " I told you you were blowing in my last comment.