A favourite episode, and another I wish had had a follow-up. It was left without confirmation, but I think most believe Gomtuu and its new pilot lived and went off to explore the universe together.
@@davidjakiela9553 the Cyclon ships didn't really count. Their more giant Mecha, versus "Living Vessel". Which is the more impressive and astounding concept.
I completely agree. A living ship and Tam Elbrun was a great character. His friendship with Data since what he said he couldn't hear beforehand was just excellently written.
That's not exactly true. The first primitive CGI effects were just starting to come around by the end of star trek's lifetime. It only a few short years later we would have some of the great animated cg shows like reboot and Beast wars. And the effects like the phasers Transporter graphics and photon torpedo's were CGI effects.The problem was at that time little more than light effects could be done because detailed drawings could not yet be properly animated and rendered. And also remember that rotoscope animation was a thing Before Star Trek's time
Melting a wax model was definitely the quicker and cheaper option for this shot, but this episode is from 1990. Terminator 2, with its famous morphing effect, came out in 1991. Even if we stick to Star Trek TV shows, Odo was morphing on Deep Space 9 in 1993.
@@Shadowkey392 For its time what they did was amazing. Did it age well? Not really. But the technology behind it was impressive. Today it looks cringe. But then again I grew up with that stuff so I might have a little bit of a bias
Yeah that's what this reminded me of when it first aired. And then the same thing when Farscape first aired, their ship was much larger but very similar
You think the Romulan Maintnance Engineer (the janitor of the ship) preferred to be home and see his three Romulan children (one with a cold) and wife rather being killed by Tin Man?
You know it's really too bad the star trek was an episode of the week style series. There were so many great plots throughout the show and only a couple of them were ever brought up again in the cannon in the show. What happened with 10 men should have been one of them. Sadly not every show can be like Babylon 5 where every episode leads into the next and they all link together
@@ColumbiaB If I don't catch it right away. I won't see it again until after I've posted it. Because the text entry space only has enough view screen for a sentence. I'm also one of those people cursed with gigantic thumbs and so when I try to hit the little tiny buttons on my phone's touchscreen., I am the hit in the ones near it as well. Trying to back the cursor up to words is a nightmare Unlike a computer I don't have the 4 way buttons And have to touch in between the text exactly where I want to put the cursor which makes it insanely hard to get it in the right spot. And so I try as much as possible to stop every sentence and make sure that it is correct. But when I get animated about a topic I miss things
@@HighmageDerin - Some touch-screen interfaces have a feature where you can press your thumb on the screen, and it displays a lozenge-shaped pop-up, showing where in the text the cursor would be placed. You can keep your thumb on the screen, and move it around to move the cursor; when the cursor is at the right spot, you lift your thumb, and the cursor drops there. (I don’t know if all touch-screen devices have that feature, or something like it.)
A favourite episode, and another I wish had had a follow-up. It was left without confirmation, but I think most believe Gomtuu and its new pilot lived and went off to explore the universe together.
Living Ships are such a fascinating and intriguing concept. And one difficult to get the right level of sheer awe for.
I think B5 did a good job of it.
Read the Octavia Butler Exogenesis series ...
NADA scientists have proposed it as a possible form of space travel in the distant future
They would feed from the energy of stars like a solar sale
The cylon ships in Battlestar Galactica will like that.
@@davidjakiela9553 the Cyclon ships didn't really count. Their more giant Mecha, versus "Living Vessel". Which is the more impressive and astounding concept.
My absolute favourite Star Trek episode !
Agreed, but Inner Light is better. But Tin Man is the next best of them all.
@@madsleonardholvik3040
You just named my favorite 2 episodes. Actually, the 2 I remember from my childhood. Which was long time ago :)
What he says at the end is the result of meditation🙏
What an episode and such a fantastic acting! Star trek at its finest!
Tin man
This is definitely one of my favourite episodes 😍 I love this show so much! I'll probably go and watch this in full on Paramount+/Prime now lol
I completely agree. A living ship and Tam Elbrun was a great character. His friendship with Data since what he said he couldn't hear beforehand was just excellently written.
I love his interactions with Data during this Episode
The Mayor of Sunnydale was less evil in this timeline.
Great moment and thanks for posting
Great effect of the chair melting in reverse to become a chair. Decades before CGI could be implemented.
That's not exactly true. The first primitive CGI effects were just starting to come around by the end of star trek's lifetime. It only a few short years later we would have some of the great animated cg shows like reboot and Beast wars. And the effects like the phasers Transporter graphics and photon torpedo's were CGI effects.The problem was at that time little more than light effects could be done because detailed drawings could not yet be properly animated and rendered. And also remember that rotoscope animation was a thing Before Star Trek's time
Melting a wax model was definitely the quicker and cheaper option for this shot, but this episode is from 1990. Terminator 2, with its famous morphing effect, came out in 1991.
Even if we stick to Star Trek TV shows, Odo was morphing on Deep Space 9 in 1993.
The Abyss, with the CGI "water tentacle" was released in 1989.
@@HighmageDerinBeast Wars wasn’t a GREAT animated show! It was merely ok!
@@Shadowkey392 For its time what they did was amazing. Did it age well? Not really. But the technology behind it was impressive. Today it looks cringe. But then again I grew up with that stuff so I might have a little bit of a bias
Mess with gumtoo at your peril 😮
It did leave off the GTFO moment that put the Federation & the Empire in their place. 😉
Hopefully that corridor wasn’t the ship’s colon! 😉
A living ship searching a new navigator.😊
It could be a reference to the Trimaxion Drone Ship from
Flight of the Navigator😁
Yeah that's what this reminded me of when it first aired. And then the same thing when Farscape first aired, their ship was much larger but very similar
Gomtu is the liberator.
Think about it...
Just think, this could be the ship from Farscape....... That would make a killer crossover.
Special edition with extra bass.
I imagine Gomtuu thinks/feels like Treebeard and the Ents from LOTR. Very slow, ancient thoughts that may take a while to say.
You think the Romulan Maintnance Engineer (the janitor of the ship) preferred to be home and see his three Romulan children (one with a cold) and wife rather being killed by Tin Man?
He then changed his name to Tisianne and started calling the ship Baby…. Bonus points if you can make the connection…
Wow, a card reference in the wild.
Gomtuu is powerful
Alien races who's technology are biomechanical is quite obscure here
Later he would morph into a giant snake and eat Quark.
Species 8472 uses similar bio ships.
they used bio ships, but they were far from "similar". what you did was like saying a duck is similar too an alligator.
One of my favourite episodes
Left out th best part...
Data unit. why do Carbon based lifeforms infest Enterprise?
After this, the ship opened a gateway to a dimension of absolute evil and absolute chaos because now it had a new crew.
We won't need eyes where we're going...
Tyranid fleets block the Warp tho
You're thinking of event horizon with Morpheus and Sam Neill
@@socialtraffichq5067 A living ship that wants a new crew -yep.
Maybe it's peaceful like Moya. (FARSCAPE)
Moya's relative
i dunno, this "pilot" doesnt even have buttons to press, and isnt physically connected too the ship. just kinda sits in an office lounge chair.
is that the Mayor from Buffy
Well gosh.
😂
Sorry, but that alien spacecraft looks like the captains log
Looks like a giant taro floating next to the star 😅
Me too, I wonder if that's where this idea is from. I've had the task of peeling & then cutting taro into cubes.
You know it's really too bad the star trek was an episode of the week style series. There were so many great plots throughout the show and only a couple of them were ever brought up again in the cannon in the show. What happened with 10 men should have been one of them.
Sadly not every show can be like Babylon 5 where every episode leads into the next and they all link together
I believe the casual name applied to that alien ship, by Starfleet personnel, was “Tin Man”, rather than “10 men”!
@@ColumbiaB Google Voice to text. It's really hard to go back and edit things on a cell phone
@@HighmageDerin - Curious; I’m on an iPhone, but editing is not difficult with this interface.
@@ColumbiaB If I don't catch it right away. I won't see it again until after I've posted it. Because the text entry space only has enough view screen for a sentence. I'm also one of those people cursed with gigantic thumbs and so when I try to hit the little tiny buttons on my phone's touchscreen., I am the hit in the ones near it as well. Trying to back the cursor up to words is a nightmare Unlike a computer I don't have the 4 way buttons And have to touch in between the text exactly where I want to put the cursor which makes it insanely hard to get it in the right spot. And so I try as much as possible to stop every sentence and make sure that it is correct. But when I get animated about a topic I miss things
@@HighmageDerin - Some touch-screen interfaces have a feature where you can press your thumb on the screen, and it displays a lozenge-shaped pop-up, showing where in the text the cursor would be placed. You can keep your thumb on the screen, and move it around to move the cursor; when the cursor is at the right spot, you lift your thumb, and the cursor drops there. (I don’t know if all touch-screen devices have that feature, or something like it.)
This is one of my favourites.
Tin man to Peter Pan...Do you copy?
Yes there usua
The ship reminds me of the flood from halo
I see deceit everywhere
Gummers will batter you, but it's basically just sound
Deceit one level of Lsds church all levelsq
Can anyone explain why the hell they call it TINMAN?
Bs ulibhurt
Young and old
Second
This is a true story in California.
There's no shortage of Gumtuu's on many sidewalks 💩 lool 😭😂
love the 4:3 ratio