Very nice, neat, clean installation. As a former electrician, I recommend ditching the ratchet PVC cutters and getting a battery powered mini-bandsaw. No, flared ends from dull blades. No busted pipe on cold days. But most importantly, reduces worn out thumb joints and carpal tunnel syndrome. Trust me, it's no fun not being able to hold onto things or pick things up with your thumbs and fingers. PS- a mini-bandsaw comes in handy for all sorts of things.
There's a small square with a set screw about 1" above your 2 white antennas. In our boxes they make us slip those 2 antennas into that small square with the set screw. That's why they built it like that, instead of having to hold it in place with your own clip and screw
How would you go about digging up a fiber line? Have a pool construction project and fiber line needs to be rerouted and hung on the fence line so that contractors can dig trenches for drainage/electrical on the same side as the fiber line. I can see my fiber line sticking out of the ground right next to my flowerbed (like 3" below surface level) where the fiber line runs into the green electrical box in the back corner of my lot.
You would need to call 811 or whatever digright your area uses, they will create a ticket and should respond within the next 3 days, someone will come and mark the line out, it would also help if u have a utility locater so u know the depth
The seal is in the way of the rubber grommet that surrounds the fiber it makes for an easier install.. if u take note to entrance port of this nid the rubber boot above the conduit goes behind this weather seal.. so u must remove it, install the fiber an reinstall the seal..
We also have the same method, but our ground rods are in the beds, not the customers yard, and u only need a line that is conductive, not grounded for location purposes, we actually get a better signal with it debonded
Nitpick: 5:40 ish he should have left more of the black sheath. It’s a failsafe against a fiber break occurring at the base of the strand right where it enters the slack nid(the box he mounted). The conduit work is flawless.
Looks good, would love to see a video of the fibers being terminated. Also I think maybe it would be a good idea to strap that conduit to the wall of the structure no?
I work for TCW Computer Works in Arkansas but I'm at installer so basically I just show up find the box and find a good option to get my customer internet
Wouldn’t you want the lines dug 6”+ to avoid potential damage by someone or animal? Most comm lines in my area are that way and fiber 50% more fragile 70% less perceptive to interference
Your speaking of main lines, this is a drop fiber, required 14in, through a customer's yard there is nothing below 3 ft. Unless for a useless reason, main line only goes 6ft under highways and railroads, I believe u misunderstand exactly how deep 6ft is,
Race just placed a box on the side of my house here in Lancaster CA. It looks extremely tacky comparing to this box. It's missing the black boot that acts as a coupler for box and conduit. And they were supposed to use gray conduit pipe, instead they gave me a black ABS that is all crooked. It looks extremely tacky. After watching this video, I canceled their service before activation. Thank you all.
@@fiberopticmissouri164 I see job openings for outside plant techs in my area. Looking that up is what brought me to your video. What do you think I should study before applying for one of those jobs? The job listing mentions a required test to be accepted. What do you think that would cover? Do you have any suggestions?
Honestly I'm not sure.. I just applied for a job directly through a construction company.. they hired me in as a hand.. I've worked my way up now.. but you should be able to just apply for a job at the local communications construction company
Help here please! If the cable get broken, can it be spliced somehow? I was digging to put a tree and ended cutting the cable. I try to figure it out and noticed that there is like a clear tube with some kind of gel and i think there might be a fine cable inside. Where can i find or what is called this cable to do it myself if not will have to call the internet company. Thanks in advance for any information.
Thank you. You're correct, I will be calling the company tomorrow morning. They know better. It might get fixed in 10 minutes as I got everything at clear to do the job. Super, thank you.
So to switch from cable to fiber optic, I have to do major construction work, digging a trench in my yard all the way to the street? Then running fiber optics throughout my house? Good grief. Cable is good enough for me.
I'm unsure what u mean about a circle box.. im sure alot of company's do it diffrently.. but most will run the external half from your nid or the small box on the outside of your house that we show us installing on this video.. to the pedistool closest to your property.. the round box at the corner of your yard might be a pedistool for hooking to the main line
@@fiberopticmissouri164 Inspectors findings: They didn't duct seal the conduit end that's buried. No bedding sand. No caution tape labeled undergound copper/fiber installed. They didn't clamp the counduit to the wall. They didn't install cable tag with info inside the Network Interface Device. Notes: Please adress findings in order for DPW close out to be completed. Once done reply with pictures. Thank you
meanwhile, spectrum does not even use a PVC pipe for that work. and Frontier would simply drill into your house's sidings and drop a wire inside without putting a utility box outside to protect the hole they made from the elements (except for a silicone caulk)
That is a condux conduit splitter.. when u get one might as well get a fiew extra blades.. they hold up well.. but don't want to find yourself out on a job without extra blades..
I didn't see the relevance, the pvc is setting on a concrete footing and the bell housing and couplings are locking, and we also left a fiew inches of slack at the top were we ziptied it for slack, so I don't see the issue
Yea deffinatly.. there will be a splice tec come in behind him and I stall "pig tails" then the installation tecs come I. And install it throughout the home
This is simply a video of a nid bieng installed on a customer's house.. there are other videos of a full install but obviously by the headline this one is not it..
Contractors doing a pre wire for a future ticket. not bad work, but why not terminate it? I wish i had a pre wire service as an install tech. i did everything from beginning to end.😢
what if there is no fibre line coming from the ground? what is the blue thing you used to scrape off the wire? and this is only installing NID right what If we have to install the fibre internet for client how do we do that?
The blue thing is a splitter made by Jonard tools designed to remove the outer sleeve.. I'm not sure how to answer your other questions.. this video is simply showing a proper nid installation.. we have other videos showing the splicing process and the drop install.. thanks for inquiring and watching my video
We have a fusion machine.. I've been working on a video for it also.. I'm not sure what it would be considered.. we call it a splice machine lol.. I will give u more details in the future
Yes the tracer wire we rolled up and zipped to the pipe under the pedestal for locating.. the tracer wire came pre installed on this particular fiber cable.. on some installments we have had to install a secondary copper wire along side the fiber for tracing.. but that wasn't the case in this particular video..
The other two are strength members, and only protect the fiber from a hard bend, we cut them off as there not needed within the fiber, only secured to the enclosure
The providers get them from somewhere, so it's possible to find them and buy one. Just like Comcast uses PPC connectors, you can buy them as well from a supplier instead of going to a box store and buying who knows what.
To avoid cutting it.. the fiber has to be behind it.. we could have fed it thru the bottom but the seal is made to come out and right back in.. the seal was replaced at the end of the video when relevent..
That's why we put it in Grey conduit.. there was a concrete footing that stuck out quite far on this particular job.. we had to place the fiber along the top of the footing.. but all our plow blades go a 1 foot..
What kind of optical cable to use for 700 ft from my home to barn? I have At&T FIBER at the house but need to distribute out to the barn. Single mode, multimode?
Depends on where your fiber is terminated, for example where is your ONT installed? You can't split fiber then expect to terminate two different places or a second ONT without getting an additional line provisioned. Best bet would be to do direct burial with some shielded cat 6 that will safely carry gigabit speed.
OM2 or OM3 multimode will suit your needs. You can not do a run of 700 feet on cat 5,6,7,or 8. The limit is 328 feet. Single mode fiber is used for runs that are miles and miles. That is usually what comes from ATT fiber.
Drop fiber doesn't have a proper depth in rural areas.. but believe it or not.. the fiber in this video was placed 14 inches into the ground.. well over a foot.. our company requires a foot deep on drops and 30 inches on main line
There was a large footing up by the house underground.. that's why we buried it in conduit across the garden.. there was a concrete footing 6in. Thick across it..
Yes we will tape up the end and bury it, I made it so long so they would have extra protection through the flower bed were they might impell the fiber planting flowers, preventive measures
The fiber must come into the house from somewhere, this is the outside installation, before the in home integration, there will be a push fiber installed running through the wall or floor depending on how the customer wants it, then from there the push fiber gets installed into the back of the modem creating a wireless signal throughout the premise
This service drop will be good until someone with a shovel decides to dig a hole for plantings, placement of political signs pushed into the ground, or whatever. It was my understanding a couple of decades ago that fiber would only be run to the pole and then copper to the home. I guess technology has changed again and now it's fiber all the way to the home.
For me I have fiber going all the way to my network rack connected directly to my ONT! then a 3 foot cat 7 patch cable to the router. Copper is like so last year dude!
@@TheRealJLucas I’m not very technical. In reality all I know is it’s fast and I like it. I was using century link and was getting 7 to 8 mb now I’m getting 600 mb
It's simple, the fiber goes behind the rubber seal, so we must remove it place the fiber in then reinstal the seal, ive seen people cut the seal but this method removes the issue,
What a perfect installation!
Thank you so much!! 💓
@@fiberopticmissouri164 what about the splice? Or did you only run drop not do installation
We only did the main fiber install.. to the ped.. someone else installed the drop and in home..
very good, cable techs are always getting better and better. that young guy did a great job and should get a raise for hard work!
hard pass
He did
Yep, anyone can do it. Training and repetition
A raise for doing the job he's employed to do?
@@Truthbomb918imagine sucking off companies instead of pushing for workers 😂
Very nice, neat, clean installation. As a former electrician, I recommend ditching the ratchet PVC cutters and getting a battery powered mini-bandsaw. No, flared ends from dull blades. No busted pipe on cold days. But most importantly, reduces worn out thumb joints and carpal tunnel syndrome. Trust me, it's no fun not being able to hold onto things or pick things up with your thumbs and fingers. PS- a mini-bandsaw comes in handy for all sorts of things.
I want one
Got one….
There's a small square with a set screw about 1" above your 2 white antennas. In our boxes they make us slip those 2 antennas into that small square with the set screw. That's why they built it like that, instead of having to hold it in place with your own clip and screw
The clip in this video was pre-installed in this enclosure, and come with the nid, not secondary
The internet man and camera man did great👍.
Our local Fiber ISP, Frontier (formerly Verizon) uses premade cables to just plug into socket at the street and a the demarc location.
We use the same NID at my company lol. But nice work guys! Looks exactly like how I do it!
How would you go about digging up a fiber line? Have a pool construction project and fiber line needs to be rerouted and hung on the fence line so that contractors can dig trenches for drainage/electrical on the same side as the fiber line. I can see my fiber line sticking out of the ground right next to my flowerbed (like 3" below surface level) where the fiber line runs into the green electrical box in the back corner of my lot.
You would need to call 811 or whatever digright your area uses, they will create a ticket and should respond within the next 3 days, someone will come and mark the line out, it would also help if u have a utility locater so u know the depth
The seal is in the way of the rubber grommet that surrounds the fiber it makes for an easier install.. if u take note to entrance port of this nid the rubber boot above the conduit goes behind this weather seal.. so u must remove it, install the fiber an reinstall the seal..
I asked the provider why there is a ground rod and wire with fiber optic cable. They said it is so they can trace the cable in the ground.
We also have the same method, but our ground rods are in the beds, not the customers yard, and u only need a line that is conductive, not grounded for location purposes, we actually get a better signal with it debonded
Nitpick: 5:40 ish he should have left more of the black sheath. It’s a failsafe against a fiber break occurring at the base of the strand right where it enters the slack nid(the box he mounted). The conduit work is flawless.
Looks good, would love to see a video of the fibers being terminated. Also I think maybe it would be a good idea to strap that conduit to the wall of the structure no?
Normally
I work for TCW Computer Works in Arkansas but I'm at installer so basically I just show up find the box and find a good option to get my customer internet
That's not far from us.. I work the missouri Arkansas boarder
Wouldn’t you want the lines dug 6”+ to avoid potential damage by someone or animal? Most comm lines in my area are that way and fiber 50% more fragile 70% less perceptive to interference
Your speaking of main lines, this is a drop fiber, required 14in, through a customer's yard there is nothing below 3 ft. Unless for a useless reason, main line only goes 6ft under highways and railroads, I believe u misunderstand exactly how deep 6ft is,
At this point is it ready for the indoor installation of the router box?
No the fiber would still require a pigtail splice.. to button up to the router.. I'm planning to demonstrate in a future video.. just
Looks beautiful, it’s embarrassing seeing how some Comcast Xfinity and AT&T fiber installations look
I just have ATT fiber installed yesterday, the ATT guy did a awesome job, way better than the RUclips installations
I agree don't paint all techs with a broad brush. Some take it very seriously in the phone company
@@josephpham1734 ur damn right
Race just placed a box on the side of my house here in Lancaster CA. It looks extremely tacky comparing to this box. It's missing the black boot that acts as a coupler for box and conduit. And they were supposed to use gray conduit pipe, instead they gave me a black ABS that is all crooked. It looks extremely tacky. After watching this video, I canceled their service before activation. Thank you all.
Do you need to ground fiber installs like you would regular internet boxes? Thanks!
We ground only main line in peds, we don't ground drops, we use the wire for electronic locates,
If I wanted to get into this field, what topics should I study for the required test I keep seeing on the application?
I've been working with fiber for many years with no schooling.. I have had to attend safety seminars and stuff alike..
@@fiberopticmissouri164 I see job openings for outside plant techs in my area. Looking that up is what brought me to your video. What do you think I should study before applying for one of those jobs? The job listing mentions a required test to be accepted. What do you think that would cover? Do you have any suggestions?
Honestly I'm not sure.. I just applied for a job directly through a construction company.. they hired me in as a hand.. I've worked my way up now.. but you should be able to just apply for a job at the local communications construction company
AT&T will teach you all you need to know.
Help here please! If the cable get broken, can it be spliced somehow? I was digging to put a tree and ended cutting the cable. I try to figure it out and noticed that there is like a clear tube with some kind of gel and i think there might be a fine cable inside. Where can i find or what is called this cable to do it myself if not will have to call the internet company. Thanks in advance for any information.
Its called a fiber fusion machine, u can buy one, but probably best to get ahold of your provider, if it's your own line most will replace for free
Thank you. You're correct, I will be calling the company tomorrow morning. They know better. It might get fixed in 10 minutes as I got everything at clear to do the job. Super, thank you.
So to switch from cable to fiber optic, I have to do major construction work, digging a trench in my yard all the way to the street? Then running fiber optics throughout my house? Good grief. Cable is good enough for me.
No it depends on your area. Your fiber is most likely on the pole and they just bring a wire to your house
What kind of router can I get for this kind of internet I'm getting ours installed soon
Good, but don't forget to use flush cutter for tie wraps,, no sharp edges is allowed,,
On the inside of the property does the need to be a circle box? 🤔
I'm unsure what u mean about a circle box.. im sure alot of company's do it diffrently.. but most will run the external half from your nid or the small box on the outside of your house that we show us installing on this video.. to the pedistool closest to your property.. the round box at the corner of your yard might be a pedistool for hooking to the main line
No worries... How about the diameter of the cable that runs from outside to inside to the ONT?
Wait! where does the cable come in from? It looks like it's under an inch of mulch/leaves.
We plowed this one in afterwards.. we start at the nid and work our way to the ped.. I have another video for that...
@@fiberopticmissouri164
Inspectors findings:
They didn't duct seal the conduit end that's buried.
No bedding sand. No caution tape labeled undergound copper/fiber installed. They didn't clamp the counduit to the wall. They didn't install cable tag with info inside the Network Interface Device.
Notes:
Please adress findings in order for DPW close out to be completed. Once done reply with pictures.
Thank you
meanwhile, spectrum does not even use a PVC pipe for that work. and Frontier would simply drill into your house's sidings and drop a wire inside without putting a utility box outside to protect the hole they made from the elements (except for a silicone caulk)
At least the equipment is out of the weather and secure!
U hope they don't just randomly drill through the wall, wires, plumbing and furniture like some companies do and don't even bother to seal the hole!
Hey what is that tool you used to strip the fibre the blue one? I’m just getting into the installs and we just use side cutters. Pls help me out
That is a condux conduit splitter.. when u get one might as well get a fiew extra blades.. they hold up well.. but don't want to find yourself out on a job without extra blades..
So no need to use cement on the pvc pipe?
All it does is protect from weed eater.
I didn't see the relevance, the pvc is setting on a concrete footing and the bell housing and couplings are locking, and we also left a fiew inches of slack at the top were we ziptied it for slack, so I don't see the issue
What about the connector? Is another tech going to follow up?
Yea deffinatly.. there will be a splice tec come in behind him and I stall "pig tails" then the installation tecs come I. And install it throughout the home
Three techs to do one job. What a load of crap!
The job is not complete. Nybodycan bolt a box on the wall. Let’s see you make it work!
This is simply a video of a nid bieng installed on a customer's house.. there are other videos of a full install but obviously by the headline this one is not it..
Contractors doing a pre wire for a future ticket. not bad work, but why not terminate it? I wish i had a pre wire service as an install tech. i did everything from beginning to end.😢
We do it all as well just didn't want to make the video too long.. we put that in a separate video
what if there is no fibre line coming from the ground? what is the blue thing you used to scrape off the wire? and this is only installing NID right what If we have to install the fibre internet for client how do we do that?
The blue thing is a splitter made by Jonard tools designed to remove the outer sleeve.. I'm not sure how to answer your other questions.. this video is simply showing a proper nid installation.. we have other videos showing the splicing process and the drop install.. thanks for inquiring and watching my video
@@fiberopticmissouri164 ok that makes sense. I will for sure watch other videos as well. Keep it coming !!
Drill a hole in a chair. Stick the fiber through it, then sit on it!
Very good job! I like the NID you guys use, ours is a little too small to work comfortably in. Do you guys fusion or mechanically splice?
We have a fusion machine.. I've been working on a video for it also.. I'm not sure what it would be considered.. we call it a splice machine lol.. I will give u more details in the future
@@fiberopticmissouri164 Cool! We have a few of fusion splicers and have been trying mechanical, fusion seems to be the way to go
What company do you work for ? Spectrum ? I want try as well
We are contractors.. work for different co.ops.
What area do you work?
South East missouri
What model/brand NID did you guys use here?
Is that traceable drop? I didn't see you terminate a trace wire anywhere.
Yes the tracer wire we rolled up and zipped to the pipe under the pedestal for locating.. the tracer wire came pre installed on this particular fiber cable.. on some installments we have had to install a secondary copper wire along side the fiber for tracing.. but that wasn't the case in this particular video..
@@fiberopticmissouri164 i missed that. Buried cable with no tracer is a nightmare.
Landscape orientation is your friend when making video.
Why did you cut the other two
The other two are strength members, and only protect the fiber from a hard bend, we cut them off as there not needed within the fiber, only secured to the enclosure
Bro in which country are you doing work
i am in USA Missouri
where can i buy one of those boxes for the outside of my house?
You would have to contact your local provider
The providers get them from somewhere, so it's possible to find them and buy one. Just like Comcast uses PPC connectors, you can buy them as well from a supplier instead of going to a box store and buying who knows what.
Yes you can buy them from Charles industries.. were u can get most enclosures
why did you take the weather strip put?
To avoid cutting it.. the fiber has to be behind it.. we could have fed it thru the bottom but the seal is made to come out and right back in.. the seal was replaced at the end of the video when relevent..
@@fiberopticmissouri164 gotcha thank you!
Not very deep in the ground?
That's why we put it in Grey conduit.. there was a concrete footing that stuck out quite far on this particular job.. we had to place the fiber along the top of the footing.. but all our plow blades go a 1 foot..
What kind of optical cable to use for 700 ft from my home to barn? I have At&T FIBER at the house but need to distribute out to the barn. Single mode, multimode?
I would use cat 5 cable and buy a secondary modem for the barn..
Depends on where your fiber is terminated, for example where is your ONT installed? You can't split fiber then expect to terminate two different places or a second ONT without getting an additional line provisioned. Best bet would be to do direct burial with some shielded cat 6 that will safely carry gigabit speed.
OM2 or OM3 multimode will suit your needs. You can not do a run of 700 feet on cat 5,6,7,or 8. The limit is 328 feet. Single mode fiber is used for runs that are miles and miles. That is usually what comes from ATT fiber.
Shouldn't the fiber line be buried deeper?
Drop fiber doesn't have a proper depth in rural areas.. but believe it or not.. the fiber in this video was placed 14 inches into the ground.. well over a foot.. our company requires a foot deep on drops and 30 inches on main line
There was a large footing up by the house underground.. that's why we buried it in conduit across the garden.. there was a concrete footing 6in. Thick across it..
AT&T only require it to buried 4-6inches
so the end of the pipe in the ground just lays there in dirt not connected to anything or what lol
Yes we will tape up the end and bury it, I made it so long so they would have extra protection through the flower bed were they might impell the fiber planting flowers, preventive measures
Very good
Thank you
But why outside
The fiber must come into the house from somewhere, this is the outside installation, before the in home integration, there will be a push fiber installed running through the wall or floor depending on how the customer wants it, then from there the push fiber gets installed into the back of the modem creating a wireless signal throughout the premise
Hlo bro where are you till saudi or....?
Usa
This service drop will be good until someone with a shovel decides to dig a hole for plantings, placement of political signs pushed into the ground, or whatever. It was my understanding a couple of decades ago that fiber would only be run to the pole and then copper to the home. I guess technology has changed again and now it's fiber all the way to the home.
Yes they even have fiber pigtails inside the home as well now.. when I first started we were just switching over
For me I have fiber going all the way to my network rack connected directly to my ONT! then a 3 foot cat 7 patch cable to the router. Copper is like so last year dude!
I just had fiber installed in my house and it’s all the way to the modem
@@makeupyourmindinator If you are referring to your ONT as a modem, which it actually is, yes, all FTTH installs are ths way.
@@TheRealJLucas I’m not very technical. In reality all I know is it’s fast and I like it. I was using century link and was getting 7 to 8 mb now I’m getting 600 mb
Which company do you work for?
We are a small independent company in South East Missouri and North East Arkansas
Good job
😊
Thats a different box from what we use
We use different ones as well.. what kind do you use?
Beautiful
Your beautiful!!
Begitu rapi 😘, coba kalo di indo
Grate job 👍🏻👍🏻
Great job
Thank you
Good
Thanks
I am interested in job
Wonderful
Thank 😊 you
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What a mess
Why did you take the gasket out of the box?
It's simple, the fiber goes behind the rubber seal, so we must remove it place the fiber in then reinstal the seal, ive seen people cut the seal but this method removes the issue,
Very good