2020 Polo GT TSI BS6 vs Polo GT TSI DSG: Can the new 6-Speed Auto be as good as a DSG? | UpShift
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- The GT TSI is a bit of a weird one. Many people absolutely adore it and many people absolutely hate it. The split happens usually due to the transmission which was the DQ200 7-Speed DSG found in the last GT TSI. Regardless of what you thought, the combination of the 1.2 TSI and DSG transmission was a rapid one. With the announcement of the new GT TSI coming with a 6-Speed Torque Converter every old Polo GT TSI owner blacked out for a moment. But the new GT TSI does not disappoint, it still retains the fun factor of the older car and is a hoot to drive through the twisties.
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Take a sip of your drink whenever he says “gt tsi”
I have 2018 gt tsi and now bought 2021 gt tsi for wife. I find, the suspension of new one better but high speed stability better in 2018 one, of coure 200 cc extra engine. Torque conv is ok but dsg with 1.2 is gonna be a gem . I know i ll get to sell 2018 gt tsi 6 times the cost 10 yrs frm now as an anitque .. hehe
U think it will last that long? In my opinion the torque converter is a 19/20 in terms of shifts comes with an asin toyota transmission so is very reliable and was available for a shorter period, engine is derived from an up gti making it a more desired choice.
Can we just appreciate how great quality video this is.... Throwing out the major car reviews YTuber in India
Thank you so much Shaam! Really appreciate the support, people like you motivate us everyday to produce content like this 🙌🙌
Much awaited comparison. His words are crisp and bold which makes him stand out of the crowd.
They just distroyed the GT! GT was meant for driving enthusiast, not for mileage suckers! But even though mileage was not that bad either. It was Totally up to how you were driving. It could easily give 13-14 in city and 17-18 on highway.
Well said brother..the old GT is a beast 🔥
True
I don’t think anymore enthusiasts will buy this. VW has screwed up a good car. DSG was the reason people bought this car, the target customers are enthusiastic drivers. This was never a family or city driving car.
Gives me 9-10 in the city :/
@@DeepGamingAI good! that means you are enjoying the car to it's fullest. That's how this car is meant to be driven. You shouldn't expect more unless you're one of those mileage mongers!
Very well reviewed. You have good knowledge. You correctly mentioned the numbness abs deadness in the Center of Vw steering which most people skip. You deserve more subscribers and views than this
Great video. Very informative, unlike most other car videos which focus on cosmetic stuff. Keep them coming
Really appreciate the support Amitabh! We're trying to be as unique and as enthusiast centric as possible in our videos!
Dsg wasn't thirsty, the engine was. Also Dsg gives more mileage than a manual. I also have Vento TDI Dsg and gives great mileage.
I just bought the old GT TSI even when my budget could get me a THAR AT. The DSG is so kickass❤️. It's like a rocket. I agree it drinks like a fish, but if u want fuel efficiency get a maruti! And I did not like the new torque converter GT either. Feels refined and erm. Boring. It's not solid, rugged and raw like the DSG
I agree with you 👍
Congratulations on buying the whip
GT means its DSG not torque converter 😁
is dohc tq faster than ohc dsg in a drag?@@ArjunParengalarjunicf
Ya@@ninadganore
Ford shifted back to Torque Converter. Now VW. TC have evolved a lot and taken over dsg just like laptops are now as light as tablets
It's the cheap maintenance that makes the torque converter win over the DSG. DSGs are the kings, that's why performance cars use them
@@aloksuresh8417 It's just that both Ford and VW have faced multiple class action lawsuits for failed DCT boxes. "Maintenance" is not very expensive on a DCT. The price of a *NEW* one once the old one *breaks* is the expensive part.
@@pranavp386 Ya. Just talking about the overalls. Replacement is the only issue and that's what's expensive.
Was hoping to see a drag race between both the cars. Liked the GT TSI DSG vs Manual👍 Great work guys!
This would make the comparison much sensible
Music is so cool...it's like the hero does the performance with best bgm...yes I'm talking about polo...
But DSG will also give good mileage.. maybe in city mileage less...in highway run it will give around 16-18 Kms per litre mileage..as it got 7 speed👍
yes 16-18 in highway
It all depends on driving. 80 will definitely give you that mileage. But since its a GT its very difficult to not rev it and just stick on to 80 😅
you need to drive with very mild throttle to get that figure, but if you do justice to its character, expect much lower
@@harisankar5194 No. You get max 13 kmpl on highways and max 8 in the city.
@@pratikbangal that's what I said, if u drive what it meant for, it's much lower u can expect from what he said.
Not a vw fan but this polo gt especially the old one is something special on the road
2:46
Units for Fuel Consumption = L/100KM
Units for Fuel Efficiency = KM/L
Fuel Consumption Cannot be in KM/L
4:50
AMT is a different type of transmission.
Torque Converter (Planetary) Does not comes under AMT.
5:00
So you mean AT TC Box consumes less fuel than DSG/DCT Box?
Man your technical knowledge!
Nice presentation....each words you speaks....very much clear....
Fantastic video. About the whole DOHC and SOHC thing. My figo 1.5TDCi still has SOHC, Doesn’t feel out of air at all..
wait hold up... if you drive a DSG sedately they're on of the most efficient transmissions
On the highway only, not city
@@drakeignis4322 nope Dual Clutch transmissions probably have the most efficient technology while, torque converter ATs are old and not very efficient
@@tanmeygoswami5251 highly disagree
@@drakeignis4322 lmao. Any reason bruh?
@@tanmeygoswami5251 I own one, it's been serviced regularly, everything's fine, it all depends on the city you live in too. Pune has horrid traffic and roads, I barely get 10-11 kmpl in the city and I need to cautiously shift up under 2.5k in order to get some sort of mileage. On the highway it's a beauty, I am get anywhere between 15-20 kmpl on the highways depending on how I'm driving.
Very well explained bro each and every thing clear with perfect detail...... and your voice really pleasing
Quality of the following content 👏👌
This guy is putting so much efforts for marketing of the New GT TSI may be people knows new one has lost charm with 3 cylinder engine and there is no comparison of 1.2 TSI+ DSG
Manual TSI beats the pants out of both GTs and that's a slept on car 😂
Lol u don't know anything about new tsi 1.0
I own a gt tdi , what a gem of an engine it is, sadly its discontinued. Its high time we get the mk6 polo. Anyway great review. 🔥
Yes gt tdi is better for me as well.
Great review ,very eloquent, simple and straightforward. Keep it up !
You just focussed on mileage and the cost of changing dsg in case of breakdown.
My gt gives easily 11 to 12 in city and up to 18 on highways. So guys it's the driving style that matters.
Also if you care, there are very less dsg failures reported...
I still feel they must have used dsg in Polo gt tsi...
2020
India : design is still same
International : damn 😍 we have better version of polo gt
Everyone going back to torque converters. Meanwhile Tata, infamous for service and maintenance , going to launch DCT!!!!
Subscribed! Great review brother. Hope your channel cross the million mark soon.
Great review as expected :)
I think VW has done a good job with replacing the dsg with torque converter for a smaller 1L tsi engine. This makes polo more cheaper, more mileage, which will definitely increase their sales
Nope, it's still has the same price when I had bought the GT TSI (DSG) a year ago.
@@pradyumnagowda Yes but in the long run we wouldn't have to fork up 2Lakhs to replace the transmission like in the DSG.
Seeing this video again almost after owning it for 3 years! Lapiz blue
The old leather steering became shiny because of the oil and dirt from the hands. Other wise it's the same leather wrapping.
Enjoyed watching this video - especially amazed at the insights and your knowledge
0:57 well built torque converters are equally good or sometime even better than some of the dual clutch transmission eg: ZF8 speed
8:05 when we tune a car with dsg, we also need to find a map for the gearbox too... That's a headache bcuz dual clutch transmission isn't a reliable one... An error in the tuning of dsg will cost the earth .... Where as in torque converters we don't even wanted to think about the wear and tear of the clutch plate 😊
Good review Keep it up.... Expecting a drag race btwn 1L TSI Vs 1.2tsi
Can't even believe that you haven't even mentioned about the new creepy 3 CYLINDER ENGINE. It totally destroyed the GT bro 🙃
Have you drive the car fucker !!!! What if it has 3 cylinder ! Power is better than 4 cylinder
@@prajwalshetty7007 fucker ninde thanda
@@prajwalshetty7007 Wow man wow you don't even know the difference between 3 cylin and 4 cylin !!!!!! You must be really a car geek 🤓
@ DR DRIVE No offence brother...I agree tat the old 1.2 l gt tsi is more refined..but the old one only has a single over head camshaft but the new one comes with a dual cam...and there’s been a lot of lag in the DSG..wherein the torque converter is kinda better in power and performance ..but when it comes to cabin noise and refinement I would say the old gt tsi
And coz of that 3 cylinder one feel the vibrations inside the car below 2k rpm
A true enthusiast would choose a 1.2 dsg than a 1.0 tsi tc
dsg is not suitable for india
true enthusiast will pick a manual box anyday :)
@@harisankar5194 Not really not everyone likes old skool
@@hardikarora973 am happy to be old school then. Even polo dsg couldn't give a proper feel/full control in fast drive in its D mode. I always used it's manual mode to get the fun/ complete control feel.. So I proudly say it's the manual box satisfies me. No offence to people who loves dsg over manual :)
@@yuvimodgil2934 first of all you wont get the 4cylinder 1.2 TSI with DSG model now because VW discontinued it. so you need to get a used one if u really want one.
now coming to new and old engines -->1.2 litre 4 cylinder is smooth and refined than current 1 litre. but 1litre is not bad at all.
If you want a manual gear box, blindly you can buy new 1 litre with 6 speed manual box variant.
but if you need automatic, you need to decide one from two things, that is between reliability and performance. if you want super quick gearshift and performance, get a used 1.2L DSG combo, but if u need reliable gearbox and can compromise slightly on perfo and planning for long term usage, get new 1 litre with TC. because DSG is a highly complicated mechatronics and especially DQ200 DSG(in the polo) is a dry clutch model. it may(depends on you luck) hit some issue long term usage and repair/ replacement will be sky high priced.
hope things are clear and now ball is in your court. happy motoring :)
How do you know the new Torque converter combo is more efficient than earlier DSG? Have you extensively driven the new one over similar routes?
The new engine maybe efficient but Torque converters are considered to be more thirsty than dry clutch DSG. And the ARAI ratings confirm that.
People appreciate DSG so much I also agree but it is fail mechanism as well much expensive. I couldn't found a single owner who don't face any problems in DSG, best to buy 1 ltr tsi manually which is award winning motor.
i'm getting mine tomorrow, Excited :D
Do you like it happy or disappointed you bought it is it sporty
My GT DSG gives 13-14 km/Lt in city with max speed of 80km/hr and 17-18 in highway with max speed of 130km/hr
I drove a baleno on free smooth highway and thought to reach the top end but at 90kmh the interior started to rattle as hell you need balls of steels to go beyond that lol
Reduce the speed to 50 in city and 100 in highway you will see wonders in terms of mileage. I own a Vista quadrajet and i get 25 kmpl in highway and 17-18 in city. I follow the speed as i posted above. Never got over 120 on highways and cuz of turbo i dont have to push it hard to reach 100 kmph and i keep it that way. My car returned 25.2 kmpl.
@@Amar-pu3ph Something is wrong with your car. I've driven the new Baleno and its smooth as butter at 120kph.
Also which 1.2 liter engine in the market is coming with a Dual overhead camshaft? Assuming its competitor is likes of Swift and Hyundai and Tiago in this market segment?
Great Video and very informative :)
VW could have done this much before but spoiled the good time... Now there are a lot of turbo petrols. The 1.2TSI manual could have been the base for VW than the NA engine .
Still missing on simple features like keyless entry reverse camera standard etc.
Sir can you pls make a vlog of a drag race between the polo tsi highline MT vs new polo gt tsi?
the comment in between "waiting for the traffic to clear, not turbo lag" :P hehe epic
Great bro love that u was talking about polo
Amazing bro👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
I m planning to buy polo , sheer comfort and high speed stability with fuel economy is my priority which model would u suggest highline TSI or GT TSI? can u tell me on road price of gt tsi in pune?
Its worst aftermarket service.
Great Presentation!!
I wonder if they'll ever give the polo the facelift it really needs which the polos sold in Europe have already gotten 🤦♂️
The quality of the video is extremely at par with very experienced reviews. Mark this..you very soon are going to stamp your videos like never before...great going
Every car enthusiastic knows that torque converter is the least fuel efficient in the automatic industry👍 except @The driver hub....😂 Fuel efficiency of New GT TSI claimed is 16.47 over 17.21 DSG GT . The driver hub🤪
Every car enthusiast would also know that modern torque converters losses are much lower than how it was a decade back and are very close to DCT in terms of efficiency and shift speed.
Every car enthusiast would know that a DCT in a 100hp car is completely and utterly useless.
Every car enthusiast would also know that if you drive a DCT in hot climate+ bumper to bumper traffic, it will fail very quickly compared to a Torque converter.
Every car enthusiast would also know all the lawsuits VW have with their DSG and Ford has with their Powershift DCT.
And finally, every car enthusiast would always prefer a naturally aspirated, MANUAL TRANSMISSION, lightweight car that's NOT super nose heavy and UNDERSTEERS LIKE A VW.
But alas, this is India where enthusiasts are just fools who want something that's not a suzuki or a hyundai.
Every car enthusiast also knows TC is far more reliable than DSG
You got schooled Mr kohli.
BTW how do you pronounce your first name.?
I feel everyone should stop buying the polo . They don't bring the new car here and they never will if we keep buying this one
Then Should Stop buying bullet too
Amazing review!
Whats the diffrence between 2010 and 2020 polo?
The price.
Lol😂
Bro! Very good content but you didn't mention the mileage figures for the newer version, pls advise on that too!
Thank you you answered my question. Highline TSI it is!
Are you looking to buy one?
You guys are doing good job 👍
Hey guys Dual Clutch or ( DCT) is actually a disaster for City conditions. I have Vento Tsi DSG transmission, it's great for performance & highways, but for City conditions it's a Fuel Looter
Agreed! Our Polo GT TSI chugs fuels like it's beer on Oktoberfest
Totally disagree, i owned polo gt tsi for almost 5 years. If i am driving on D it easily gives me 13-14 in city and as I put it in S mileage drops to 10-11 but at the same time puts a big smile on my face.
@@alihassaansyed Torque converter is always a more relaxed ,reliable and a economical option, DSG is very jerky for number to number traffic conditions
@@satyamevjayte2443 well that's what Iam talking about. GT was for enthusiasts not for mileage seekers. There were other economical variants available to please the class.
@@satyamevjayte2443 Does gsg jerk in first gear in traffic?
Excellent review 👍
Which is faster? 2020 polo or 2020 polo gt?
Brohh I’m a bit confused between manual and automatic!!!! What to choose
Dsg is life 😍😍😍
Was expecting this video a way back long
I am going for second hand polo. How to know if the care is DSG or Torque veriant?
Does new one has rear AC vents?
No GT doesn’t, high line TSI has
very good technical explanation you have given , can u share similar for comparison between vento 2020 vs city 2020 automatic
0:57 have you heard about BMW's newest M Cars ??
They all using ZF torque converters now 😂😂
bmw have been using that and getrag for decades
Verna has a 6 speed torque converter, not a dual clutch transmission
I want to buy polo will some one guide me which model will be good for me. ?
Good content brother!
Can you also do a video on Reliability of the auto gear box TC
Bangalore traffic gets you 9 kmpl on bad days and 11 on the ORR commutes. But then, if you’re worried about kmpl, you’re looking at the wrong place.
Loved your review. Should one pick up an older TSI which is nearly 8 years old. Worried about the DSG's reliability.
Big No. Stay away
How can Torque Converter be more fuel efficient than DCT?
Hey Bakul! Torque Converters have progressed a lot and now they are on par with DCT tech. The DSG gearbox is amazing for fuel efficiency on highways where you're doing constant 80-100kmph speeds but in the city, the DSG burns through fuel like no one's business. The Torque converter is a much more fuel efficient gearbox in city conditions.
Hey, I’ve booked a highline plus polo with 1 L tsi manual petrol engine producing 110ps power. Can anyone explain what is the difference between the one which I’ve booked and this new upcoming gt tsi?
everything else remains same except you get a Torque Convertor Automatic..also hill hold assist and Traction Control..
At what price did you get the car?
Raviraj Gokhale 8.08 ex showroom , 9.38 on road .
@@MrAdwaithpalakkal did you get any discount from dealer? I was told that 19500 discount which manufacturing offering still the negotiation is going on.
@@MrAdwaithpalakkal and not sure to go with manual or automatic as sometimes automatic gearbox costs a lot if face any problem.
The mileage of any car depends on how you drive, I am using GT TSI for the past 5 years if i drive in a civilized way in the city I could get 13.5-14, and on highways 17-19 kmpl.
Hey Charly! Yes that's true, it all depends on driving, but with the older GT, you have cautiously shift on time below 2.5k RPMs to get some sort of fuel efficiency and moreover, we operate out of Pune where there are fools on the roads left and right and it is impossible to maintain decent speeds in the city whereas cities like Gurgaon, since the roads are wide, you can maintain a better average speed. Higher average speed = Better fuel economy that's what we find works for the 1.2 TSI + DSG combo if you want fuel economy out of it.
hi a request iam contemplating for a new car purchase - Honda city vs Vento....which could be your choice ?can you please guide and i know maintenance and drive quality are good in city and recent 2020 is also well built..my primary agenda is safety and better drive quality in a bumper to bumper traffic in mumbai
I own both these cars , you can't go wrong with either of this in any department. So it's just a matter of personal and family choice
@@jspinku thanks
We want drag race 🔥...
2021 am still confused to buy AT or MT in highline+
Very good review
Good review. Thanks
any other car with 4 cylinder turbo and 7 speed DSG?
Superb review 👌
I need your review on old gt tsi 4 cylinder and new gt tsi 3 cylinder , which one I should go for ?
You can't buy a 1.2 TSi anymore. It's been discontinued.
Ethan Maskie m taking about used bro
@@Boywithmilliondreams if you can get your hands on a fairly low mileage 1.2 GT TSi, buy it. It's alot more refined than the 1.0 TSi
Go for the manual 1.0 TSI and you will totally forget all the DCT or DSG because the manual will smoke everything behind!
Facts 💯
@@TheDriversHub 😁🔥
Automatic is always faster than manual, then how come manual smoke automatic?
No where mentioned about Highline AT. Is it gonna come or not. If yes then RIP GT TSI.
It's come, saw it at a dealership.
@@joyrides6184 thanks for that info. So if some one who is looking for automatic variant of polo, do you recommend GT over highline AT?
@@MrJithuvt I'm getting the Highline+. GT TSI is only cosmetic now. Black mirrors, black roof, black spoiler. Highline+ gets armrest and rear AC vents. These features not present on GT TSI.
@@joyrides6184 yea. There's no reason now, to get GT. If someone want AT better to go with highline AT. Best value for money is Highline + TSI.
No projector headlights in 2020
The overall video was good. But I'm not sure why he ended up giving a verdict for the Polo highline manual 2020 vs the Polo GT TSI 2020 when the actual comparison was between the old n new POLO GT TSI 🙄
The real debate should be why there is no Golfs in India. Regardless of GTI version doesn’t compare to the fun of a GOLF
Pls reply
Your Subscribers are 11k which is not much but still you got a car for review how?
Btw Loved the video
Is there possible to get VW Golf 8 R In india ....?
i can see thesea cars all day wat beauty in red
Please suggest me I'm confused between
polo 1.0 tsi automatic
vs
ford ecosport automatic 2020
Goat vs elephant 😆
Haa ha please suggest
Ecosport is the better choice
@@dipankarbanerjee5750 polo will give you morr driving pleasure no doubt. If u want good ground clearance and more upright stance, then ecosport.
Both the cars come bundled with same TC automatic transmission..if you travel mostly with 4 people onboard and are above 5'10" better take Ecosport..Polo will be more fun to drive though hands down..
How is the manual bro...?
Brilliant video.
But we can get Skoda Rapid, with the same engine, same 6-speed TC, and also a lot more space for 20K less🤔
Some prefer hartchbacks and the looks are nice on the polo
@@blackviking7536 yes well it'd be a little more dynamic but the rapid, with the new price, just makes so much more sense, plus that 6 year warranty
Daymn , really ?
@@nismostrada9433 yep, it's 9.49 lacs ex-showroom, you can get the manual with the same engine at 7.99
Hey Shubham! Yes the Rapid might be cheaper, but the Rapid does not handle as good as the Polo. The Rapid has so much more body roll in the corners and moreover, a fast hatchback is a sweet spot in terms of fun and practicality.
A person who buys GT should not/will not bother about mileage unless its for his wife to go to work. :-)
so don't stress on the mileage crap. what would have made me happy is the 1.8 TFSI engine inside a GT. the GTI is damn expensive as its imported as a whole unit. downgrading to a 1000CC , well not to my liking.
Nice review (if you skip the mileage)
what about dsg??? i m planning to buy 2016 model..shud i go?
You did not mention the performance and economy numbers. The new GT is slower to the ton and is more efficient.
What do you think about the Figo/Freestyle for a sporty hatch?
It's an awesome little thing. For sure up there with the Polo when it comes to handling. Personally, we don't like the Ford's interior too much. Too cheap and plasticky but it's a hoot to drive for sure!
The background music is really nice
First DSG was all about ease and Enjoy your drive all day . it was never about Fuel Economy. DSG was mostly Error Free gearbox . there is a way of driving DSG gearbox . FUEL ECONOMY should not be on the list if you own VW GT . its only about Enjoyable Driving.
Dont agree with the comment on tc being more efficient than dsg, my polo 1.2 gt with dsg returned 19+ on Mumbai pune highway today..its a very efficient combination, you get great performance with good fuel efficiency.
is ther e is any issue in dsg?? i m planning to buy should i go or not?
@@vds8070me too.. what should i do.. it is also a low run gt tsi clocked only 17k kms.. 2016 model.. should i go for it?