Catless was a bit louder but nothing crazy still sounded the same overall since I had the stock muffler on. There wasnt any significant difference in performance from what I could tell. And it didnt really smell that much worse than the high flow cat. @@jaymills85
@InlineSixAuto ok I got stock mid pipes with secondary cats still but no muffler, I want to delete the cats but I'm afraid it may get too loud or my not sound right straight pipe, I don't know.
Thanks for sharing. Im FBO, the only thing I havent played with is E85/30 fuel. 400WHP is the goal, since i feel it is the sweet spot for something with some decent get up ad go, while also being tame enough for daily driving duties.. 2016 535i.. Considering the MHD Ethanol setup, seems it makes it easier to deal with.
Doing the e30 mixture every time you need to fill up sounds like a huge pain, might be fun for a week but to have it on a daily driver would be a hassle
Yeah for some maybe. But I don’t find it a hassle really for me personally. Though I do I have a shell station that’s really close to where I live with both the E85 and 91 together. Also I usually get gas every week to week and half which I know depending how much you drive you could have to fill multiple times a week which would be more of a hassle. So it’s not for everyone.
@@InlineSixAuto Yeah im in the same situation with them both offered at the same pump, the hassle part is more having to use a calculator everytime. any idea what kind of power you would make with the same mods and a tune rated for 93 or e85?
@@SirGraffitiArt For the calculator, all you have to do is adjust the fuel level percentage in the calculator for your fuel level at the time of fill up and it calculates it automatically the exact amounts of 91/93 and E85, only takes a few seconds. If you do a stage 2 93 octane only tune you would make around 370whp if your f30 is RWD with these same mods.
@@InlineSixAuto Im definitely gonna give it a try once my supporting mods are on, my commute runs my tank dry about once a week so well see, also im xdrive not rwd
E85 varies considerably and can contain as little as 51% ethanol and as mush as 83% depending on your location and the season. As a result, if you’re mixing fuel to obtain a specific desired octane level you should always measure your fuel before mixing to determine the actual ethanol content. Also, the Stage X tune you’ve selected doesn’t allow your car to have a higher ‘knock’. You’ve misunderstood what that term implies, how it applies to your tuned ECU, and what your car is actually doing at different stages of your ECU tune. When you select your Stage X tune (in this case for E30, aka 94 Octane) what your ECU is doing is allowing the turbo to increase the boost pressure of your intake charge air to the point where it would otherwise experience pre-detonation caused by the heat of the extreme compression of the air/fuel mixture - even before the spark is delivered from the ignition system (spark plug). For those who don’t know what pre-detonation is, it’s basically a process of auto-ignition that (in this case) results after the hot compressed air from the turbo mixes with the fuel being squirted in by the injectors, and reaches a point where it spontaneously ignites. This is a particular problem in boosted cars because when air is compressed by the turbo it produces an extreme amount of heat - and the higher the pressure, the higher the heat. A FMIC will help cool the charge air, but at very high boost pressures, even the best FMIC won’t be able to cool it enough. When this hot charge air mixes with the raw fuel being injected into the engine, the air fuel mixture will spontaneously ignite if/when the temperature/pressure of the air fuel mixture reaches its auto-ignition point. And as you’ve no doubt figured out by now, the temperature at which auto-ignition occurs drops as pressure increases (inverse relationship). Now to be clear, the charged air from the turbo isn’t hot enough to cause pre-detonation on its own, but once the fuel air mixture is in the cylinder and it goes through the compression phase of the combustion cycle, the increased pressure of that compression (much higher pressure), combined with the ambient heat of the charge air (much less heat is now required), is often enough to cause pre-ignition / pre-detonation before the spark is applied - creating a distinctive ‘knocking’ sound (hence the name). Except…. Octane is a knock-inhibitor, and at the right percentage, it will prevent the air/fuel mixture from pre-detonating (aka ‘knocking’) while still in the compression stage of the combustion cycle, despite the higher temp of the charge air produced by the turbo delivering that air to the cylinder at higher boost levels (more pressure = more heat). Which is why if you run an E30 equivalent, your octane level is high enough that it can eliminate ‘knocking’, aka pre-detonation, even at the higher boost levels permitted by your Stage X tune. And even this is an oversimplification as your ECU can (and will) adjust a multitude of other factors that can affect knock, including timing of the spark and further adjustments of the fuel to air ratio. One other thing I would strongly recommend if you’re running higher than stock boost levels is investing in colder spark plugs. The poster didn’t mention it but it will help prevent knock as well and deliver better and more consistent performance. Hope that helps make better sense of the video.
Thanks for the extremely detailed explanation of what running E85 does. Also I did mentioned how you should test the E85 using the process I explained at 12:19. And you're right I should of mentioned how you should change the spark plugs to colder plugs. I actually did switch mine to NGK 1 Step colder spark plugs along with my ignition coils to Eldor before running the stage 2 E30 map.
@@InlineSixAuto - yep… you provided an excellent discussion how to measure the alcohol content of the fuel. I thought that was really well done. I just wanted to make sure people knew you can’t assume the same ratio will work each time you go to the pump, simply because the ethanol content of E85 is so unpredictable and can change without notice.
Reason why check engine light came on is because you twisted your oxygen sensor’s cables, you have to turn the wire with the actual sensor when you install
BTW - great tasteful build and the exhaust sound is absolutely spot-on. Overall, the whole project was really well done and thought out. Shows what can be done when you start with a solid car and make some smart mods. I’m planning almost exactly the same (power train/exhaust) mods for mine this summer. I’ll be sure to post some pics and vids when I’m done with the build.
You can get better results with cleaner power no e85 mixing. Skip the intake as they are not going do that much and like he said cause issues. Get your self the 2.0 bar sensor off the n20 engine. Upgrade the charge pipe, add catch can. And get water meth injection kit they can look very stealthy and use the wiper fluid tanks. You should upgrade the water pump to metal one. And go with a 2 degree cooler thermostat. Two step cooler plugs and use the plugs from the f80 m3. And high flow cat is a must. Upgraded intercooler. I would highly recommend with going with Amsoil racing 5w 50 oil but those mods and coding in BMW track mode. It has the water pump come on early and stay on longer. But with those mods and a great tune you can get to 500 whp. But after that. You have to look at the internals and this is an advanced mod but upgrade the exhaust side cams with ones from an N52 motor. And very overlooked is adding a vent tube for the front and rear Diff and flashing the trans. Because if you don’t do that and keep on the fluids it will break down faster and fail under that extra load. And as coils go I know of guys using Audi R8 coils on their engines as they are smart coils and you get the option for more tuning.
Thanks for the very detailed info. Though I think doing all that would be too complicated for the average BMW enthusiast. Seems like you have a way better understanding of engine tuning/modifying than me and most other people lol.
Very interesting comment I have a 2011 135i currently ,my FBO are arm motorsports 7.5 FMIC with upgraded hoses ,BMS intake,BMS Elite chargepipe,turbosmart dual port Blow off valve,CTS high flow cat downpipe , BMS oil catch can ,Dinan throttle booster,snow performance stage 3 water methanol injection kit,EBC drilled and slotted rotors front&Rear with EBC Blue stuff brakes,evolution works steel brake lines,Downshift blocker, handling wise I have Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 tires front 225/40/18, rear 265/35/18,upgraded the water pump,thermostat and fuel pump,looking into upgrading all the bushings to revshift poly, My question would be how safe do you know if running water methanol to your chargepipe,how good is this mixture so far you've been using any build up of deposits or unusual car behavior?I also need to get a tune haven't bought that yet.What would you best recommend
@@kmassiah6221 So for the water meth you need to spray it right at the turbo inlet for be the best results for air cool and density you can do this to advoid needing E85. you will need a tune for the water meth injection. I am not a a tuner Stay away from JB4 its trash. but few companies are making top mount kits for this motor. when I go with that i am looking to take some parts off a crashed s55 car. But 550 to the wheels is somthing you can make safely before you need to upgrade bearings and pistions and get the heads worked and flowed and custtom exhuast. And go crazy on the fueling. and that point you should just go forged internals so you could push 700 hp with E85.
If you're reading this and have a manual f30 you will need an upgraded clutch, went to do a custom tune on e30 and it slipped immediately. Mhd stage 2+ on 91 will slip the clutch if you get on it low in the rpm range.
Nice one mate, I'm from the UK and looking to tune my 2013 F30 335i, just finalising what bits I want, but I was thinking: Remap (obvs) Intercooler Chargepipe
400WHP is not too shabby. I have the e90 n55 Here's my Setup for 2011 335i xDrive Performance Edition VRSF Catless DP Cobb Catback BMS Intake BMS 5"intercooler BMS charge pipe Inlet/Outlet JB4+MHD BEF - E85: Suggested for E85 mixtures of 50% BMS WMI kite (50/50 Boost Juice) Feul-it Stage 2+ LPFP (from BMS) 1 step colder plugs XHP stage 3 Let me know what you think.
@@AdrianGenao I have not dyno yet, but I am guessing around 500 to 550WHP now. I upgraded to PS2 turbo and now running on custom BEF 93+Meth. I will be getting a second custom BEF with E50+Meth.
What a pain in the butt to mix e30. Maybe for track days only? To be running 400whp all day is just too much work! . Beautiful car by the way. Loved it.
intakes help with power yes, from the factory the intake SHOULD only be enough or might not even be enough for your engine to fully breathe and produce high amounts of power especially in cars that are produced from factory with less than 400bhp. if you are going to be tuning your car an intake is not skippable.
first of all when you have a valve cover leak you must also replace the valve cover, plus the gasket, costs $2,200 at the dealer, the electric water pump costs $2,300.00 at the dealer to replace, when the transmission pan leaks you must replace the plastic oil pan which includes the transmission filter+ gasket, costs at the dealer $1,600, and when the main rear seal leaks it costs well over $3,000.00 to repair, and when your extended coolant tank leaks you also must replace the plastic tubes that connect to the engine which costs at the dealer $1,200,. these things will certainly fail with less than 50,000 miles and hopefully within the 4 year mfg warranty, in your 2014 X1 Xdrive M equipped 35i n55 engine...i know, cause they failed in mine in it's 5th to 8th year between 40 and 49,000 miles which was all out of warranty, also the battery failed in it's 5th year...... also the 4 brakes pads had to be replaced and when you replace the brake pads you must also replace the rotors this costs $1,700 dollars at the dealers.... so if you are going to buy this vehicle used make sure this work was done, make sure you put this auto up on a lift and have a good mechanic look for additional leaks.....
Yeah for some reason my n55 doesn’t like the intake while it drives in stop and go traffic I always get a check engine light reading air mass to high I unfortunately had to revert back to the stock air box.
The intake is a must in a forced induction motor anytime you can cool the air and increase the amount going into the turbo it’s going to run better and lag less, so even if it’s not a power adder which it is, that modification shouldn’t be overlooked
This car is perfect. Looking to go from an M47 (e90) yes, a diesel, lol. To exactly this. F30, N55 with EWG. Would love to push it stage 2 and that's plenty for me as it'll be my daily. Love to add an M3 kit on to it. (not to pretend its a rep) Just purely for how nice the Rear bumper sits from an M3
Yeah what about a stage 1 tune. Is bootmod3 still the best tuner for the n55 engine in your opinion? I just purchased a n55 f30 and upgraded the charge pipe, intercooler, and the oil housing gasket along with the value cover gasket and now am looking for the best stage 1 tune as I will be daily driving this and what it to be more reliable.
All stage 1 tunes are basically do the same thing no matter the tuning company. Bootmod3 and MHD are the most widely used tuning programs for stage 1 so either are good.
I blew my charge pipe, literally sent plastic flying. I had foul plugs, I had to get a hpfp so the dyno guy would even look at my car, same mods as him but the hpfp really allowed my car to run better
I've been following your channel all the way from E90 content I have E90 335i N55 and I'm willing to make 500-550WHP What are the mods I should get ...!???
@@hungonguyen2854 Oh no I don't have one. I've heard a BOV doesn't really do anything for the N55 since the factory diverter valve is already good and if anything it could make performance worse. Though it would sound amazing. But my intake already sounds like one so that's good enough for me lol
Sup bro....now at the 404HP -480TQ....do u think ur able to make the Scat packs...SS...and 5.0 s notice if not run with and or beat them? I have a 535 with all the bolt ons ur talkn bout ....using. M.H.D.....and with 93 octane gas....not on yet ....but was and am ready.to play the game.....whats ur honest opinion.....and how do u get the sports display up on the dashboard....METH IS IN THE HORIZON
I haven’t raced one of those yet but others have told me that you can keep up with them at this power output with this set up maybe pull on them but it won’t be an easy win. What sport display are you referring too?
@@InlineSixAuto thats wassup....the display that shows HP TQ on the center console....im here on the East Side and plan on playing hard ball with a few SS Scattys and 5.0s... but the only stage im following up on that u didnt is METH.....then maybe a Pure turbo and thats will be it......but yeah ive seen some sport displays that show on your center console those graphs
@@hassantalib3426 Oh if you run meth and upgrade your turbo you'll definitely gap. Also the there should be an option on the iDrive that you select that says "sport displays" and they'll pop up like how it showed on mine.
I have 3k for mods but how much would it be for labor ? I honestly don’t want to risk damaging my car I don’t have the experience. Any advice on a good shop in Orange County CA
I would estimate it would be another $1-2k in labor if you dont want to install these yourself. I'm in San Diego county so I'm not sure what some good shops are in OC but you can use Yelp to find one with good ratings
OEM 437M Wheels Front - 19x9 ET 29 with 255/35/19 Tires Rear - 19x10 ET 40 with 275/35/19 Tires BC Racing Coilovers (BR Type) Not extreme lows No wheel spacers
I think he meant the actual material (plastic) flexes from the pressure thus breaking it. A must upgrade any n55. Mine broke and the car was stock, but I did code it with Beamer code
to my knowledge, you can run up to E30 mix with the stock fuel system. If you want to run a higher percentage of E85 youd need to upgrade the HPFP. Though it may still be better to upgrade on the E30 map cause I noticed my HPFP was still struggling to keep up with the fuel demand when I ran datalogs. It never crashed though through the year and half I was on the stage 2 E30 map with the stock HPFP.
They have a transmission ‘flash’ but it doesn’t do nearly as much as xHP. From what I’ve heard the BM3 flash just removes torque limits, while xHP changes your shift speed and shift points in addition to removing torque limits, and it has a bunch of other features that allow you to customize the launch control. Overall people were saying BM3 doesn’t really have any affect or made the transmission shifts feel worse, while there is nothing but positive feedback from xHP and it was no different for me.
@@noahjames6713 Basic bolt, charge pipe, cold air, 5 1/2 cold air intake, down pipe and secondary cats, with an MHD rebuilt motor and im running close to 400hp 500tq, ran amazing till i got rid of it.
F30 can handle up to E30 with all stock fuel components. Once you go above E30 you’ll need to upgrade to stage 1 HPFP since the stock HPFP will most likely crash.
Not from what I've heard and experienced. I have had my F30 with the xhp trans tune now for about a year and half now and haven't experienced any issues.
@@JustLuuchi I'm from Australia too, you won't hit 400whp not even close. 370 if you're very lucky, our fuel sucks here + most US dynos are a bit "optimistic"
@@JustLuuchi Oh yeah with the HPFP upgraded you can get to about 420WHP on full E85, that's about where the turbo runs out of juice Unfortunately it's a very expensive upgrade, almost as expensive as upgrading the turbo
New to modding. I’m looking for a 435i and wanted to have it push 400whp. my question is is 400whp close or at the potential of the N55 engine? i know each engine stock can put out some more power. I just don’t want the engine or turbo breaking. Like i said new to modding so i’m not sure how much extra power would make an engine or turbo break or something. any info is appreciated :) TIA 👍
Based on my personal experience and research with my N55, 400whp is still not anywhere near the limit of the stock turbo or the engine. I've seen a couple people achieve near 500whp on the stock turbo and near 600whp with the stock engine internals. However, once you pass 500whp that's when your chances of blowing your engine increase and you should expect something to break in the engine. For the turbo, I'd say 480whp-500whp is the max for the stock turbo. You should upgrade to aftermarket turbos if you want to go past 500whp. 400whp is plenty of power and allows you to maintain reliability for the most part. You could easily daily with 400whp on the N55. I've been pretty much using my F30 as a daily with 400whp for the past 9 months and haven't had any issues at all relating to the engine itself or the turbo. Still a short amount of time I'd say. But I also don't race people or push the car all the time going full throttle so it also depends on that.
@@rayland9305 thicwhips I wouldn’t count but I’m in the market currently for a 340 or 2015+ N55 435i /335i and can’t seem to make up my mind and forums and different vids are scaring me
Finally, someone who didn't go the cheap route of a catless DP! Thnx for explaining the octane/ethanol process!
I actually ended up trying a catless downpipe to see what the difference sound and performance was
@InlineSixAuto and how did that go?
Catless was a bit louder but nothing crazy still sounded the same overall since I had the stock muffler on. There wasnt any significant difference in performance from what I could tell. And it didnt really smell that much worse than the high flow cat. @@jaymills85
@InlineSixAuto ok I got stock mid pipes with secondary cats still but no muffler, I want to delete the cats but I'm afraid it may get too loud or my not sound right straight pipe, I don't know.
@@jaymills85 Yeah I think that's going to be too loud and may add some rasp. may not sound as good. And drone would probably be really bad.
Thanks for sharing. Im FBO, the only thing I havent played with is E85/30 fuel. 400WHP is the goal, since i feel it is the sweet spot for something with some decent get up ad go, while also being tame enough for daily driving duties.. 2016 535i.. Considering the MHD Ethanol setup, seems it makes it easier to deal with.
Thanks for the EXTREMELY detailed explanation on e85 at 12:40
Doing the e30 mixture every time you need to fill up sounds like a huge pain, might be fun for a week but to have it on a daily driver would be a hassle
Yeah for some maybe. But I don’t find it a hassle really for me personally. Though I do I have a shell station that’s really close to where I live with both the E85 and 91 together. Also I usually get gas every week to week and half which I know depending how much you drive you could have to fill multiple times a week which would be more of a hassle. So it’s not for everyone.
@@InlineSixAuto Yeah im in the same situation with them both offered at the same pump, the hassle part is more having to use a calculator everytime. any idea what kind of power you would make with the same mods and a tune rated for 93 or e85?
@@SirGraffitiArt For the calculator, all you have to do is adjust the fuel level percentage in the calculator for your fuel level at the time of fill up and it calculates it automatically the exact amounts of 91/93 and E85, only takes a few seconds. If you do a stage 2 93 octane only tune you would make around 370whp if your f30 is RWD with these same mods.
@@InlineSixAuto Im definitely gonna give it a try once my supporting mods are on, my commute runs my tank dry about once a week so well see, also im xdrive not rwd
@@InlineSixAuto i appreciate the info!
E85 varies considerably and can contain as little as 51% ethanol and as mush as 83% depending on your location and the season.
As a result, if you’re mixing fuel to obtain a specific desired octane level you should always measure your fuel before mixing to determine the actual ethanol content.
Also, the Stage X tune you’ve selected doesn’t allow your car to have a higher ‘knock’.
You’ve misunderstood what that term implies, how it applies to your tuned ECU, and what your car is actually doing at different stages of your ECU tune.
When you select your Stage X tune (in this case for E30, aka 94 Octane) what your ECU is doing is allowing the turbo to increase the boost pressure of your intake charge air to the point where it would otherwise experience pre-detonation caused by the heat of the extreme compression of the air/fuel mixture - even before the spark is delivered from the ignition system (spark plug).
For those who don’t know what pre-detonation is, it’s basically a process of auto-ignition that (in this case) results after the hot compressed air from the turbo mixes with the fuel being squirted in by the injectors, and reaches a point where it spontaneously ignites.
This is a particular problem in boosted cars because when air is compressed by the turbo it produces an extreme amount of heat - and the higher the pressure, the higher the heat. A FMIC will help cool the charge air, but at very high boost pressures, even the best FMIC won’t be able to cool it enough.
When this hot charge air mixes with the raw fuel being injected into the engine, the air fuel mixture will spontaneously ignite if/when the temperature/pressure of the air fuel mixture reaches its auto-ignition point.
And as you’ve no doubt figured out by now, the temperature at which auto-ignition occurs drops as pressure increases (inverse relationship).
Now to be clear, the charged air from the turbo isn’t hot enough to cause pre-detonation on its own, but once the fuel air mixture is in the cylinder and it goes through the compression phase of the combustion cycle, the increased pressure of that compression (much higher pressure), combined with the ambient heat of the charge air (much less heat is now required), is often enough to cause pre-ignition / pre-detonation before the spark is applied - creating a distinctive ‘knocking’ sound (hence the name).
Except…. Octane is a knock-inhibitor, and at the right percentage, it will prevent the air/fuel mixture from pre-detonating (aka ‘knocking’) while still in the compression stage of the combustion cycle, despite the higher temp of the charge air produced by the turbo delivering that air to the cylinder at higher boost levels (more pressure = more heat).
Which is why if you run an E30 equivalent, your octane level is high enough that it can eliminate ‘knocking’, aka pre-detonation, even at the higher boost levels permitted by your Stage X tune.
And even this is an oversimplification as your ECU can (and will) adjust a multitude of other factors that can affect knock, including timing of the spark and further adjustments of the fuel to air ratio.
One other thing I would strongly recommend if you’re running higher than stock boost levels is investing in colder spark plugs. The poster didn’t mention it but it will help prevent knock as well and deliver better and more consistent performance.
Hope that helps make better sense of the video.
Thanks for the extremely detailed explanation of what running E85 does. Also I did mentioned how you should test the E85 using the process I explained at 12:19. And you're right I should of mentioned how you should change the spark plugs to colder plugs. I actually did switch mine to NGK 1 Step colder spark plugs along with my ignition coils to Eldor before running the stage 2 E30 map.
@@InlineSixAuto - yep… you provided an excellent discussion how to measure the alcohol content of the fuel. I thought that was really well done.
I just wanted to make sure people knew you can’t assume the same ratio will work each time you go to the pump, simply because the ethanol content of E85 is so unpredictable and can change without notice.
Dude, this response is amazing
@@nicolomarchillo4451 - thanks, I was just trying to help people who might have been confused by the comment in the video.
ive heard of people blowing the welds off of cts turbo downpipes i personally think vrsf is a better choice
Great job. Love the real time footage.!
Reason why check engine light came on is because you twisted your oxygen sensor’s cables, you have to turn the wire with the actual sensor when you install
BTW - great tasteful build and the exhaust sound is absolutely spot-on.
Overall, the whole project was really well done and thought out. Shows what can be done when you start with a solid car and make some smart mods.
I’m planning almost exactly the same (power train/exhaust) mods for mine this summer.
I’ll be sure to post some pics and vids when I’m done with the build.
Thanks! That also sounds like that'll be a lot of fun with yours!
You can get better results with cleaner power no e85 mixing. Skip the intake as they are not going do that much and like he said cause issues. Get your self the 2.0 bar sensor off the n20 engine. Upgrade the charge pipe, add catch can. And get water meth injection kit they can look very stealthy and use the wiper fluid tanks. You should upgrade the water pump to metal one. And go with a 2 degree cooler thermostat. Two step cooler plugs and use the plugs from the f80 m3. And high flow cat is a must. Upgraded intercooler. I would highly recommend with going with Amsoil racing 5w 50 oil but those mods and coding in BMW track mode. It has the water pump come on early and stay on longer. But with those mods and a great tune you can get to 500 whp. But after that. You have to look at the internals and this is an advanced mod but upgrade the exhaust side cams with ones from an N52 motor. And very overlooked is adding a vent tube for the front and rear Diff and flashing the trans. Because if you don’t do that and keep on the fluids it will break down faster and fail under that extra load. And as coils go I know of guys using Audi R8 coils on their engines as they are smart coils and you get the option for more tuning.
Thanks for the very detailed info. Though I think doing all that would be too complicated for the average BMW enthusiast. Seems like you have a way better understanding of engine tuning/modifying than me and most other people lol.
Very interesting comment
I have a 2011 135i currently ,my FBO are arm motorsports 7.5 FMIC with upgraded hoses ,BMS intake,BMS Elite chargepipe,turbosmart dual port Blow off valve,CTS high flow cat downpipe , BMS oil catch can ,Dinan throttle booster,snow performance stage 3 water methanol injection kit,EBC drilled and slotted rotors front&Rear with EBC Blue stuff brakes,evolution works steel brake lines,Downshift blocker, handling wise I have Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 tires front 225/40/18, rear 265/35/18,upgraded the water pump,thermostat and fuel pump,looking into upgrading all the bushings to revshift poly,
My question would be how safe do you know if running water methanol to your chargepipe,how good is this mixture so far you've been using any build up of deposits or unusual car behavior?I also need to get a tune haven't bought that yet.What would you best recommend
@@kmassiah6221 So for the water meth you need to spray it right at the turbo inlet for be the best results for air cool and density you can do this to advoid needing E85. you will need a tune for the water meth injection. I am not a a tuner Stay away from JB4 its trash. but few companies are making top mount kits for this motor. when I go with that i am looking to take some parts off a crashed s55 car. But 550 to the wheels is somthing you can make safely before you need to upgrade bearings and pistions and get the heads worked and flowed and custtom exhuast. And go crazy on the fueling. and that point you should just go forged internals so you could push 700 hp with E85.
If you're reading this and have a manual f30 you will need an upgraded clutch, went to do a custom tune on e30 and it slipped immediately. Mhd stage 2+ on 91 will slip the clutch if you get on it low in the rpm range.
I probably should have mentioned that this video assumes you have an automatic so thanks for sharing this for the manual drivers!
What if I just do stage 1?
@@im7422 you'll be perfectly fine from my experience, you can still do stage 2 if you wanted but stay away from launch control.
@@InlineSixAuto and thank you for the video, I saw your build list and did very similar mods and love it!
@@Drake_Dawley you don’t get launch control w the 6 speed do you?
Nice one mate, I'm from the UK and looking to tune my 2013 F30 335i, just finalising what bits I want, but I was thinking:
Remap (obvs)
Intercooler
Chargepipe
400WHP is not too shabby.
I have the e90 n55
Here's my Setup for 2011 335i xDrive Performance Edition
VRSF Catless DP
Cobb Catback
BMS Intake
BMS 5"intercooler
BMS charge pipe
Inlet/Outlet
JB4+MHD BEF - E85: Suggested for E85 mixtures of 50%
BMS WMI kite (50/50 Boost Juice)
Feul-it Stage 2+ LPFP (from BMS)
1 step colder plugs
XHP stage 3
Let me know what you think.
How much power are you pushing with this setup? Think this is what I will end up going with
@@AdrianGenao I have not dyno yet, but I am guessing around 500 to 550WHP now. I upgraded to PS2 turbo and now running on custom BEF 93+Meth. I will be getting a second custom BEF with E50+Meth.
what do you think you were making beforee the PS2
What a pain in the butt to mix e30. Maybe for track days only? To be running 400whp all day is just too much work! . Beautiful car by the way. Loved it.
seems like a must but only problem would be installing that high flow catted downpipe
Its really not too hard if you have the tools and space ruclips.net/video/cqRt-eBeMTM/видео.htmlsi=bUWoqO_ICnylETsC
New subscriber. Awesome content, with great presentation
Thanks!
a quick way for me is i premix into a 5 gallon tank and then test the content of that 5 gallons its way faster when youre on the fly
I have same setup on f25 m sport
Vrsf
Mhd 2+
Super fun to drive, would recommend
Be prepared to replace spark plugs and coil packs regularly lol
What are the best spark plugs and coils?
@@christiansalazar3314 Probably Delpi Coils and NGK Step 2 colder plugs for a similar setup to him
Stage 2 gang wya
Good video. Its crazy how prices went up so high after only two years. smh Plus now, we have to get a FEMTO unlock.
awesome video bro helps out a lot!
intakes help with power yes, from the factory the intake SHOULD only be enough or might not even be enough for your engine to fully breathe and produce high amounts of power especially in cars that are produced from factory with less than 400bhp. if you are going to be tuning your car an intake is not skippable.
Nice tailights bro, did you have to code them in eventuality?
Nope. Once installed, they work as shown without any coding.
Higher octane prevents preignition, to prevent knock
first of all when you have a valve cover leak you must also replace the valve cover, plus the gasket, costs $2,200 at the dealer, the electric water pump costs $2,300.00 at the dealer to replace, when the transmission pan leaks you must replace the plastic oil pan which includes the transmission filter+ gasket, costs at the dealer $1,600, and when the main rear seal leaks it costs well over $3,000.00 to repair, and when your extended coolant tank leaks you also must replace the plastic tubes that connect to the engine which costs at the dealer $1,200,. these things will certainly fail with less than 50,000 miles and hopefully within the 4 year mfg warranty, in your 2014 X1 Xdrive M equipped 35i n55 engine...i know, cause they failed in mine in it's 5th to 8th year between 40 and 49,000 miles which was all out of warranty, also the battery failed in it's 5th year...... also the 4 brakes pads had to be replaced and when you replace the brake pads you must also replace the rotors this costs $1,700 dollars at the dealers.... so if you are going to buy this vehicle used make sure this work was done, make sure you put this auto up on a lift and have a good mechanic look for additional leaks.....
Guess ive saved myself thousands of dollars. You must not know how to turn a wrench😂
jesus dude learn how to work on your own car ffs
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Yeah for some reason my n55 doesn’t like the intake while it drives in stop and go traffic I always get a check engine light reading air mass to high I unfortunately had to revert back to the stock air box.
Was is it this same CTS intake also?
No it was the MST one.
@@urielperez-amador5777 oh okay yeah seems like there always some people that have issues with their aftermarket intake, no matter which brand.
Tryna do the same build on my 328i
You wont reach 400whp with these on a F30 328i but You can do these same mods just itll be less hp
The intake is a must in a forced induction motor anytime you can cool the air and increase the amount going into the turbo it’s going to run better and lag less, so even if it’s not a power adder which it is, that modification shouldn’t be overlooked
Need that info thanks bro 🙏🏾
This car is perfect. Looking to go from an M47 (e90) yes, a diesel, lol. To exactly this. F30, N55 with EWG.
Would love to push it stage 2 and that's plenty for me as it'll be my daily. Love to add an M3 kit on to it. (not to pretend its a rep) Just purely for how nice the Rear bumper sits from an M3
Can you run 91 only? Is the e85 blend only for reaching 400hp or does it have to run that mixture all the time?
Yeah what about a stage 1 tune. Is bootmod3 still the best tuner for the n55 engine in your opinion? I just purchased a n55 f30 and upgraded the charge pipe, intercooler, and the oil housing gasket along with the value cover gasket and now am looking for the best stage 1 tune as I will be daily driving this and what it to be more reliable.
All stage 1 tunes are basically do the same thing no matter the tuning company. Bootmod3 and MHD are the most widely used tuning programs for stage 1 so either are good.
So how much whp would it be making without the e30 mixture, lets say js running e93 octane?
Pls help
did you get performance coils and sparkplugs?
I blew my charge pipe, literally sent plastic flying. I had foul plugs, I had to get a hpfp so the dyno guy would even look at my car, same mods as him but the hpfp really allowed my car to run better
Thank you for the information. I have one more question, did you change spark plugs and coils? What are the best alternative?
Yes I changed replaced the Bosch ones I initially had to 1-Step Colder NGK 97506 plugs. I also changed the factory delphi coils to Eldor Coils
I've been following your channel all the way from E90 content
I have E90 335i N55 and I'm willing to make 500-550WHP
What are the mods I should get ...!???
all of the ones I mentioned in this video but also youll probably need some upgraded turbos to get to 500whp.
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Okay but for the F30 N55 you won't need upgraded turbos right.....!???
@@austinaustin2751 youll still need turbos since its the same engine.
Very helpful info wat about the bov!
Glad you found it helpful! What about BOV?
Did you install a bov, I got a 435i fbo I was thinking to do the turbo-smart bov on mine.
@@hungonguyen2854 Oh no I don't have one. I've heard a BOV doesn't really do anything for the N55 since the factory diverter valve is already good and if anything it could make performance worse. Though it would sound amazing. But my intake already sounds like one so that's good enough for me lol
Sup bro....now at the 404HP -480TQ....do u think ur able to make the Scat packs...SS...and 5.0 s notice if not run with and or beat them? I have a 535 with all the bolt ons ur talkn bout ....using. M.H.D.....and with 93 octane gas....not on yet
....but was and am ready.to play the game.....whats ur honest opinion.....and how do u get the sports display up on the dashboard....METH IS IN THE HORIZON
I haven’t raced one of those yet but others have told me that you can keep up with them at this power output with this set up maybe pull on them but it won’t be an easy win.
What sport display are you referring too?
@@InlineSixAuto thats wassup....the display that shows HP TQ on the center console....im here on the East Side and plan on playing hard ball with a few SS Scattys and 5.0s... but the only stage im following up on that u didnt is METH.....then maybe a Pure turbo and thats will be it......but yeah ive seen some sport displays that show on your center console those graphs
@@hassantalib3426 Oh if you run meth and upgrade your turbo you'll definitely gap. Also the there should be an option on the iDrive that you select that says "sport displays" and they'll pop up like how it showed on mine.
I'm using a JB4. With meth no BEF. I picked up a .5 second.
Quick question, I live in Canada and there's no E85 anywhere is there any alternative?
No alternative unfortunately
The intake DEFINITELY give you power without a tune 😭😭 my charge pipe exploded 20 minutes after installing the mst intake 😭
U def didn't installed it right bro
@@cheddar4203either he didn’t or he had plastic charge pipe
how much power does it make with just 93oct instead of e
I think it’s about 370whp
im bout yo get me one 😍😍😍 i need
Hello Guys, Can I use regular OBD bluetooth Adapter to connect the BM3 App on my iphone? Thank you.
I assume it works for an E90 N55 too
Yes but I don't think Bootmod3 has a license for the E90 N55. I think MHD does though.
I have 3k for mods but how much would it be for labor ? I honestly don’t want to risk damaging my car I don’t have the experience. Any advice on a good shop in Orange County CA
I would estimate it would be another $1-2k in labor if you dont want to install these yourself. I'm in San Diego county so I'm not sure what some good shops are in OC but you can use Yelp to find one with good ratings
European Auto Source is a good shop located in Anaheim.
It's compatible with my x5?
Does it have the N55 engine?
@@InlineSixAuto yessir
Anyone knows the wheel specs and what kind of suspension/ wheel spacers he has
OEM 437M Wheels
Front - 19x9 ET 29 with 255/35/19 Tires
Rear - 19x10 ET 40 with 275/35/19 Tires
BC Racing Coilovers (BR Type) Not extreme lows
No wheel spacers
not sure power difference between e85 and just pumpgas but the farting around with fuel doesnt sound worth the fuss
are you talking about the sound between shifts?
Can you make 400whp without e85 ?
@@zulk9mahmood821 no, without E85 with the same other mods, you’ll make around 360-370whp
how has the car done in terms of reliability?
I ended up selling this F30 after about 1.5 years with this setup. but I never encountered any issues during this time. It remained pretty reliable.
Thanks for the update, I watched your 2 years ownership video so I have an idea of the “issues” you dealt with. Thank you for the in depth videos!!!
The Charge pipe on the N55 brakes due to it being Flexes, not pressure!
flexes?
I think he meant the actual material (plastic) flexes from the pressure thus breaking it. A must upgrade any n55. Mine broke and the car was stock, but I did code it with Beamer code
Did you have to gap the spark plugs? And if so what is the gap measurement and spark plug brand in order to obtain 400whp?
Yes i replaced the factory Bosch plugs with NGK 1-Step-Colder 97506 plugs gapped to .022mm
Do you need to upgrade any fuel thing to run e85 or can you just put it in after going to e30 map
to my knowledge, you can run up to E30 mix with the stock fuel system. If you want to run a higher percentage of E85 youd need to upgrade the HPFP. Though it may still be better to upgrade on the E30 map cause I noticed my HPFP was still struggling to keep up with the fuel demand when I ran datalogs. It never crashed though through the year and half I was on the stage 2 E30 map with the stock HPFP.
@@InlineSixAuto awesome appreciate it bro! Been wanting to try it but wasn’t sure I’ll keep an eye on the hpfp
How did your E85 test out?
Is there a tune thats compatible with these mods and won’t need e30
Yes the stage 2 91/93 Octane OTS maps also from bootmod3.
Doesn’t bootmod3 come with a transmission flash included? Or no.
They have a transmission ‘flash’ but it doesn’t do nearly as much as xHP. From what I’ve heard the BM3 flash just removes torque limits, while xHP changes your shift speed and shift points in addition to removing torque limits, and it has a bunch of other features that allow you to customize the launch control. Overall people were saying BM3 doesn’t really have any affect or made the transmission shifts feel worse, while there is nothing but positive feedback from xHP and it was no different for me.
Yea i got more in my N55 for less than that, so it all depends what choices you make in parts and tuning.
what are you running? looking to add some parts myself here soon
@@noahjames6713 Basic bolt, charge pipe, cold air, 5 1/2 cold air intake, down pipe and secondary cats, with an MHD rebuilt motor and im running close to 400hp 500tq, ran amazing till i got rid of it.
@@S58PSHIFTING 400hp is not 400whp, these cars have almost 20% drivetrain loss so your car made ~330-340whp
Was this full Bolt ons on stage 2 tune?
Stage 2 with E30 fuel mixture
MHD works with iOS also. I use my iphone
So by having 400whp you basically have a 500hp car (as compared to stock bmw m3 information), correct ?
yes there is close to 20% drivetrain loss so 480-500 at the crank is accurate
What suspension do you have?
BC Racing Coilovers
What’s the exhaust setup?
high flow down pipe and resonator delete with stock muffler
Where can I get that front splitter?
www.suvneermotorsports.com/shop/f30-jhp-carbon-fiber-front-lip/
Did you have to prep your car for e85 or like buy fuel lines for e85 or can the 335i just do it stock
F30 can handle up to E30 with all stock fuel components. Once you go above E30 you’ll need to upgrade to stage 1 HPFP since the stock HPFP will most likely crash.
@@InlineSixAuto thanks for the quick and simple response
can removing the torque limiter cause any issues?
Not from what I've heard and experienced. I have had my F30 with the xhp trans tune now for about a year and half now and haven't experienced any issues.
my next car
Can you still pass emissions
No lol. I had to put the stock cat back on and flash back to stock tune to pass emissions
So my EWG 2014 FBO E85 435i stock turbo
And stock hpfp I’ll be making 400HP?
yessir. That's the power I got with the stage 2 E30 map from BM3. With the stock hpfp
@@InlineSixAuto I’m
I’m From Australia so idk if I’ll reach that hopefully I will won’t know until I dyno it eventually
@@JustLuuchi I'm from Australia too, you won't hit 400whp not even close. 370 if you're very lucky, our fuel sucks here + most US dynos are a bit "optimistic"
@@wingmanlmg been told FBO EWG not PWG. with upgraded HPFP you can hit 400whp and over especially with e85 blend
@@JustLuuchi Oh yeah with the HPFP upgraded you can get to about 420WHP on full E85, that's about where the turbo runs out of juice
Unfortunately it's a very expensive upgrade, almost as expensive as upgrading the turbo
New to modding. I’m looking for a 435i and wanted to have it push 400whp. my question is is 400whp close or at the potential of the N55 engine? i know each engine stock can put out some more power. I just don’t want the engine or turbo breaking. Like i said new to modding so i’m not sure how much extra power would make an engine or turbo break or something. any info is appreciated :) TIA 👍
Based on my personal experience and research with my N55, 400whp is still not anywhere near the limit of the stock turbo or the engine. I've seen a couple people achieve near 500whp on the stock turbo and near 600whp with the stock engine internals. However, once you pass 500whp that's when your chances of blowing your engine increase and you should expect something to break in the engine. For the turbo, I'd say 480whp-500whp is the max for the stock turbo. You should upgrade to aftermarket turbos if you want to go past 500whp. 400whp is plenty of power and allows you to maintain reliability for the most part. You could easily daily with 400whp on the N55. I've been pretty much using my F30 as a daily with 400whp for the past 9 months and haven't had any issues at all relating to the engine itself or the turbo. Still a short amount of time I'd say. But I also don't race people or push the car all the time going full throttle so it also depends on that.
What lip is that your running
www.suvneermotorsports.com/shop/f30-jhp-carbon-fiber-front-lip/
would running full e85 do good ?
Youll definitely get more power. Just make sure you're engine is tuned for full E85
Did you upgrade the turbo ?
No still stock turbo
This video is a 1mo. MHD has been on iOS for a while now.
E85 is "race fuel"which is essentially pure alcohol
Anyone know of a good site to buy bumpers?
european motor society
Rims please??
437M
MHD WORKS WITH IOS TOO NOT JUST ANDROID
That lip???
Step 1: Get an F30
It’s doable bro trust me you just gotta put that work in. I was the same way and now I have mine
@@Fckbmw how much u got urs for? I also wanna get one
You don’t change your spark plugs
I didn't mention it but I did change mine from the factory Bosch plugs to NGK 1 step colder
good ol 85% corn fuel baby usaully its like 70% tho
So 400 whp should be 430 at the crank?
Yep around 420-430
Is this pretty much the same with 535i? Since they both have the n55?
Yes all these apply to the 535i also
400whp is great for $2k
Trade you for a 328😁
The best way is get rid of the n55 and go for the b58. Lol
I would agree, but 340i’s are still too expensive for most people. The N55 still offers plenty of power and reliability. But yes B58 > N55
Considering all the big youtubers with B58's have had catastrophic engine failures, I'll stick with my N55
@@rayland9305 like who?
@@mir_2613 Kies had both of their B58's blow, Noclutchgarage, Thicwhips... list goes on and on
@@rayland9305 thicwhips I wouldn’t count but I’m in the market currently for a 340 or 2015+ N55 435i /335i and can’t seem to make up my mind and forums and different vids are scaring me
Wouldn't u make the burble noise if u upgrade ur fuel system? Because that burble tune is so corny and ricey...
You can adjust it to have less burbles or no burbles in bootmod3.
honestly, there should be a lawsuit against BMW for putting such garbage parts in their cars
A bit of an exaggeration there. BMWs arent the best but theyre far from the worst.
Way to much work for an 100hp gain😭
u jus lazy lil bro
are u dumb
dumb question but since I dont have E85 in my area.. can I just flash it with E91/93 tune (idc if its not 400whp, anything is better than stock)
Yes bootmod3 has an OTS map for 91/93 octane fuel. It’ll give you around 360whp.