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Can a TP4056 module charge with more than 1A?
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2021
- Hi, guys! Long time, no see :)
I had some personal stuff to do lately, but I will start making videos more often now.
In this episode I will try to modify a TP4056 module and charge lithium cells with more than 1A.
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How many days do i have to waste to see the cells charge....got me laughing.
People dont realize how much time went into such a simple video as this one. Big ups brother.
yeah, definitely glad Sorin went through all the trouble for us to see if modding the TP4056 is worth the trouble.
@@tophlaw4274 hahaha...indeed.
I agree... 😀
To enhance the module, I located an old PCB saved from a small radio. For volume, it contains a 10K volume potentiometer in series with a 1K resistor. I cut out that section of the PCB and double-sided foam adhered it to the back of the TP4056 module, with two wires directly to the R3 connections replacing the SMT resistor. This gives me a range of 110-1200 mA charging current options without changing resistors, these values I marked on the thumb wheel with a laminated label.
Thanks for the entertainment, information, and cuteness! It was inspirational at the least :)
Finally I’ve been waiting for a new upload from Sorin
Yup!
Hey Fbi catch me if you can 😗
Run!
Hah noob😉
Ye
There is a way to use an external mosfet to get 10amp charge, not that you need that amount, but it is possible to get over 2.2amp :)
This is great. So many attempts made to make a video really appreciate it. I think adding a variable resistor is the best way to get adjustable current.
amazing video .. one would take a lot of time and frustrations to get these calculations .. this is a great channel .. with channels like these i usually hit the like button even before the video starts .. thats one way of supporting .. thanks Sorin !!!!!
Thanks. Nicely made video and always staying on the topic. No beating around the bush. Subscribed.
I love your sense of humour :) The doomsday generator was EPIC!!
That's pretty impressive for that little module. I'm not dissapointed at all that it didn't fry. Tough little IC. Thanks for the info on how to change the charging current. Might come in handy in the future. Also, even though I'm a cat person, that little puppy is cute. Been a while since I've seen you post anything, glad to see another video.
great you are back Sorin! And great video as well!
Good to see u after a long time
Very instructive, thanks Sorin.
Nice one. Thanks for doing this hard work so that we don't have to. Best wishes!
Just what I was looking for, you earned my like & subscription. Thank you!
Great video man.
Really appreciate your work and content.👍👍
Love your videos man always waiting for the next one
Ok the charging thing was a bust but the ending was the best I have ever on a video! So S0 Cute fluff ball. Puppy is funny and it knows it. What a ham too... :-)
Thanks for the video! Better luck next time!
LLAP
Thank you So much for your great work sir.
Intresting fact about this module. Thanks for The info 😁
Wonderful video bro!!
Yayy its new video from Sorin I liked and subscribed
Very very useful and informative
thank you 4 wonderful work
nice explanation
Thanks for this useful video brother
Great work keep it up.
Nice info, thanks for sharing, like it :)
Good stuff!
Good job!
Nice electronic circuit
THE TP4056 IS IN MY OPINION ONE OF THE BEST MODULES OUT THERE. "AND IT MUST HAVE SOME PROTECTION INSIDE LIKE AN OUTPUT CURRENT LIMIT PROTECTION OR SOMETHING." ANYWAY GREAT VIDEO & IM SURE GLAD YOU STUCK IT OUT CHARGING & DISCHARGING THOSE CELL'S OVER & OVER FOR US. OH!! ANS SORRY FOR YOU NOT GETTING THE MAGIC SMOKE YOU WERE SO LONGING FOR. (MAYBE NEXT TIME SORIN MY FRIEND💥(couldn't find a smoke emoji so this will have to do 🚬)
You're not telling me... I have to watch the entire video. Guess what... I always watch untill the end, so what's new ?
Nice video btw... ;-)
He is finally back!!!!!!
Great video.
Nice video!
Amazing bro thanks
Thanks Sorin. Pls do the sane with a module with a module that support curent!
Merci beaucoup 👌
@2:49......So when will the cat kill it's curiosity?😅😅😂😂
Great video and plzzz make a video on how to charge 3s battery with tp4056 ic.
Best one love the video
Thanks Sorin for your very instructive video. I was looking for this modificaions but the Inverse way. I try to use the TPA4056 module for charge tiny small Mini drone battery arround 100mAh. What value o resistor is suitable for the Mod?
if you want to charge it with 100mA, the module needs a 12kohm resistor.
finally sorin,,i almost forgot you😁
How many pets do you have?
Very good and useful video!👍
I have only a cat now, but at my in-laws we have a few cats and dogs
Interesting experiment, however it just demonstrates the internal overheat protection in the chip. Note that most of the TP4056 chips are fake clones so other ones may not work as well as shown here.
If you want a simple module that is rated 2A, then use the TP5100 instead of the TP4056. It's more efficient, since it's a Switching rather than Linear controller, and you can program it to charge 1S or 2S (8.4V cutoff).
Is there anything similar for 3S?
@@bitsurfer0101 - yes of course. There are many solutions for 3S, very cheap as pre-built modules. They use different chips, not these simple TP**** models
I can also hear TP4056 IC laughing 😂😂
its usefull vedio ,thank you bro
yes you deserve a big like. you are amazing ♥️🌷 i like you
Whoa 😮 How Nice 👏💯✨
If ur changing the resistor what will b the out put Amp of module ?????
I wish they made a 2A version.
Please make a video on how to change over discharge protection from 2.5v to 3v or higher. 2.5v is too low and can damage cells.
I really like your video's. Since a while ago. And i like your accent
Which type of engineer you are ? 😁😍😍you do such a great work 💪😍😍😁😁
A electrical nerd take a look at his youtube channel name
Yeah man he is an electronics engineer or may be an electrical engineer 🤔🤔well I always learn from his videos😉😁
Same
SALUT.
Cum pot lua legatura cu tine sa ma ajuti la unele proiecte la care m.am oprit din cauza ca nu stiu exact cum sa leg anumite module?
salut. putem sa discutam pe chat-ul de pe Patreon, sau pe email.
if u really wanna see some Fireworks from 'TP4056 the Great', just connect the battery backwards and boom !! ...i (accidentally) did it once .
Great content by the way ...
Wow 2 years ago I was here. Found this video on Google, was looking up the tp4054 to see about increasing the output current for a portable soldering iron (the type like a soldering gun) have a cheap 3AA battery one but it's absolutely crap..
was looking to add a 3A Li-ion cell in it but need more current.
I found that the TP4056 chip is soldered down to the board under the body of the chip as a heat sink. If you take a look at the back side of the module, there is a group of vias directly under the chip leading to a plane of copper on the bottom side of the board. I found the best place to put a heat sink is actually under the board, not on top of the chip. I did this and it was surprising that you can keep your finger on the top of the chip even though charging at 1A and beyond. I also suppose that keeping the input voltage closer to the battery voltage might reduce the amount of work the TP4056 has to do, I ran it around 4.4V instead of 5.0V and that worked well too.
yes, cooling the entire module will also cool down the IC. but it depends if you have the space under the module for a heatsink.
@@Sorin_DIY Thanks Sorin, I love your channel!
Hi there, thanks for valuable information. Did you try connecting a tiny trimpot/variable resistor instead of those multiple resistors? How much current is passing on this programing resistor? Is it the direct output or is it like a gate with lower current? Best
hi. yes, potentiometers will work. the current is very low.
@@Sorin_DIY Thanks, I found an SMD 10K 0.25W single turn pot to try. Best.
Yes change the resistor.
I wonder if a lower input voltage would help with heat because I assume they have to drop the rest of the voltage as heat so if you were doing a lot and could supply them with like 4.5v if that would help with heat
it will still heat up, because the output current is high.
Hey Sorin bro ..thanks for the great video ..i have 2 questions:
1) the resistors that you are using are of how many watts ? i see you answered it already and you mentioned that your resistors are quarter watts but they seemed to be big .. looks like half watt ...could u please clarify?
2) another question .. i want to draw around 2 amps from tp4056(will put a resistor accordingly by referring your video) .. is it necessary to use a heat sink? or can it be avoided.
Regards
Rahul
hi. you can use a 1/4W resistor.
at more than 0.8A the IC will get hot. so at 2A you definitely need to add a heatsink.
@@Sorin_DIY : ohkk thanks bro for the info .. cheers!!!!
There were no explosions and just a lover charging current because the chip has an internal temperature sensor reducing the duty cycle. In the complete datasheet, you can see it have an internal comparator set to 145°C vs DIE temp. But from graphs, you can see it kick in around 110°C on the package.
So more cooling = even more current. 😉
Yep. Since it's a Linear Regulator the more wattage (Volts AND Amps) being dissipated the more heat is internally generated. However the IC package is not designed to dissipate high currents, so they rate it for 1A bare (no heatsink and fan). If you want more current there are absolutely tons of cheap and better ways than a TP4056.
@@johncoops6897 Thanks. I'm new here. Could you mention some modules cheaper and better than this TP 4056, for more amps charging?
@@samsungsexy7164 - not specifically, it depends how many amps you want. With separate Mosfets and heatsinks you can pump lots of current, but you got to remember your cells will suffer.
Just search on Ebay, Banggood, or whatever.... there are literally thousands to choose from... but you need to decide your power, control method, etc first.
@@johncoops6897 I have a 36v 10S 5P battery pack. Which module number you suggests if I want to use 1 charging module per parallel line pls?
@@samsungsexy7164 - you cannot charge it like that. You need a 10S BMS and 10S charger (10x 4.1V or 4.2V) and some way to balance those cells either during charging or in the pack or both.
Since you rum 5P and if they were (say) 2500mAh cells, you have 12.5 Amp Hours of current, so you need to decide how fast you want to charge it ... 12.5 hours at 1Amp, or 2 hours at 6.25 Amps, etc.
So you neNeea suitable Lithium Charger to suit all of that.
It's a LOT of power and a lot of money in cells, so you need to do it properly.. . not some half assed DIY botch job using $1 Modules off Ebay.
Buna.Imi poti da dimensiunile radiatorului pt TP4056?Eventual un link de achizitie?Multumesc!
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DClXnrV
Long time no see.
Thanks that's what I was looking for which is not mentioned in datasheets beyond charging 1 ampere current. Now my question is what is your cells specifications? Is that 18650 or different, because I also studied we need to charge a lithium battery with its 37% of capacity current rate and exceeding that percentage can damage the cell.
It depends on the type of Li-Ion cell. if you use old, untested or cheap cells you should start the charging process at a 0.2C rate and check if the cell gets hot. good quality cells can be charged at a 0.6C or even 1C rate
You shoud have got rid of distructions such as cables, batteries and stuf like that. 😍 They distract Sisi's attention. Joking aside, this video has alot of time and physical effort.
Your vis's are great, I just hate that you make it look so easy, I am 75 years old and love this studd. I substuted a 5k VR so I could play with other currents.
Please make a detail video about ZB2L3.
Salut Sorin. M-am abonat la canalul tău. Ai putea să-mi zici cum pot conecta un volt ampermetru modul, la un încărcător de li ion deja cumpărat din comerț!.. As vrea sa vad cu ce curent încarcă bateriile.. Ms
Salut. volt/ampermetrul trebuie sa il alimentezi de la o sursa separata. apoi firul negativ care duce la baterie trebuie sa il intrerupi si sa inseriezi firele ampermetrului cu minusul bateriei. iar ultimul fir-senzor al voltmetrului trebuie sa il conectezi la plusul bateriei. depinde de volt/ampermetru, dar majoritatea asa se conecteaza.
Please make a video about fuse and how to calculate fuse rating for load
Salut, Sorin
De ce potentiometru am nevoie pentru a putea ajusta curentul de la 1 A pana la 2,
Multumesc!
Felicitari pentru clipurile tale,spor!
Salut. pentru 1A rezistenta programabila trebuie sa fie de 1200ohm, iar pentru 2A rezistenta trebuie sa fie de 600ohm. nu exista un potentiometru care sa varieze intre aceste valori. poti sa folosesti un potentiometru dublu de 1Kohm, sa lipesti in paralel pinii potentiometrului si astfel dintr-un potentiometru dublu de 1K sa faci un potentiometru simplu de 500ohm. si acest potentiometru sa il legi in serie cu o rezistenta de 680ohm.
deci in final o sa varieze intre 680ohm (1.76A) si 1.18Kohm (1.01A). varianta asta cred ca se incadreaza cel mai bine intre ce valori vrei.
Iti multumesc mult de tot!
Mie nu imi trece de 500mah.
Daca baterie e incarcata peste 3.90v nici macar nu se aprinde becul rosu, nu baga nimic in ea.
Testat pe un step up si un led, ajunge la 1.5a.
Care e problema la incarcarea celulelor?
Multumesc!
how much watt resistor do you use for replacement resistor?
Usually 0.25W because it's small. but you can use any type of resistor you have.
i asked you so much to make this tut , ,plz make a diy fat soldering gun like yours 💟
Can you please tell me the safe current for 5 amp battery packs
hi. it depends on the type of lithium cells you are using. for most cells it's recommended to charge them at a 0.5C rate. for example for a 5Ah battery pack the charging current should be: 5Ah*0.5C=2.5A.
Sorin have you ever tried to make a powerbank which charges more than 1 amp? :) This is what im trying to do. Thanks for the video by the way. Excellent experiment and benefitful!
hi. I made a small and powerful powerbank with 10000mAh which can charge with max 2.4A. but the video it's available only on my Patreon page.
@@Sorin_DIY thank you for the answer. I’m experimenting with old laptop batteries too, with 2amps. When i use heatsink both chip and board(for the board, transistor heatsink), i took good result(but anyway not reached to 2amps without fan, max around 1.8amps). Without heatsink, no way. Thanks again for video and we expect more☺️.
@@emrethesea sorin did make a 15000 mah power bank and is is not on his patreon page, just look through his videos.
@@emrethesea ruclips.net/video/8AsEvXFEdg4/видео.html
@FBI actually what i mean was, did he make any powerbank with R3 modified(output>1A) tp4056 modules. I have watched his video what you meant already but in that he used tp4056s with existing resistors. Anyway i made mine with upgraded tp4056s glued to heatsinks for both boards and chips, and i’m testing. We will see if it will be stable. Thanks
jakiego modułu dokładnie użyłeś ? tp4056? tc4056 ?różne są oznaczenia. tp4056a, 4056h, 4056e
Does it needs to connect 2 batteries on a parallel configuration on a 1s bms then connected to the TP 4056.
no. you can use 1 or 2 cells. with 2 cells the capacity will double.
Does the Tp 4056 has built in bms? Because to provide protection on the tp 4056 on a 2s2p li ion with a 1 s bms.
I used a 1s battery with 1s bms and it works while i measure the resistance on the R3 builtin resistor on the tp 4056 it reads 620 ohms on the R1 resistor it reads 1 kilo ohm same as the R2 resistor 1 kilo ohm. The resistors for Type C TP 4056 is very small.
As I saw on the video the R3 resistor was replaced by a 620 ohms to achieve 2.3 Amperes of charging speed. While the TP 4056 I bought has a lower resistance on the R3 while the R1 and R2 both of it has 1 kilo ohm resistance.
Love your videos ❤️
Love from India Hyderabad ❤️❤️😍
Hay I have tried it really work
But my module reach 3a
On 400 owm appx
With tp4056 typec ❤️
Thank you sir 😍
Hello bro I am your big fan
Ați putea să conectați în paralel mai multe cipuri tp4056 într-un singur circuit ?
salut. eu nu am incercat, insa se pot conecta in paralel. asa functioneaza modulul acela cu 4 cipuri care incarca baterii cu max 3A.
nice
and what to do to charge to only 4 v
Good
Love fron Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩
Care este mai bun?
tp5100 sau tp4056
TP5100 nu am folosit pana acum. daca vrei sa incarci un singur acumulator, probabil e mai bun. avantajul e ca poate fi alimentat cu o gama mai larga de tensiuni 5-18V. dar daca vrei sa incarci 2 acumulatori in serie, nu e de ajuns de bun, pentru ca nu are functie de balansare.
Cool
Can we charge lithium iron battery pack with solar charge controller
can this module use for charging 32650 cell?
it depends on the chemistry of the cell, li-ion - yes, lifepo4 - no.
I’m surprised that little module can handle so much 😂
Hey sorin
Can you make a DIY DC Fan (Rechargable)? Please...
I need to show off to my cousins 😉
Now i know because i built small Bluetooth speaker with pam8403 and tp4056 thankyou
Hey sorin , can you guide us to do inverter for home using rechargeable lithium ion batteries ?? I'm so confused with power calculations and battery selection , even I don't know how can I use lithium ion batteries to make inverter ...help me please
I will make an inverter video in the future. at the moment I'm working on other projects.
@@Sorin_DIY thank you my friend , I'm waiting ☺️
How do you make the diagrams
for technical diagrams I use EasyEDA and for simpler and more colorful diagrams ms Word.
Still loving you
Please what kind of soldering gun do you use in your other video
it's a Romanian made soldering gun from the '80s.
@@Sorin_DIY thank for replying
I don't know anything about electronics or power. Is it possible to combine 3 TP4056 circuit to get 3A current? Sorry for the dumb question.
I don't think so, the battery will not be charged correctly.
@@Sorin_DIY Thank you for the reply.
This charger can charge 3 or 4 battery?
yes, in parallel.
Dear Sorin, Can you tell me 01. why V(prog) is 1v? and 02. What is 1200 in the formula?
the integrated circuit is programmed to work with that formula. you just need to change the programable resistor and the IC will calculate the charging current. the IC was programmed by the manufacturer to work with those values.
I'm surprised that since obviously the chip doesn't have a problem doing it that no one is selling them with a heatsink and set to 1.2a or 1.5a I assume around 2A it won't last long but I don't know