How To Process and Refine Raw Pine Resin
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2017
- Collecting, processing, and purifying pine resin (pitch) is simple and easy, using only a hatchet, old steel soup cans, a heat source, and a dollar store kitchen sink strainer. Purified resin has many potential uses around the bushcraft camp. Resin is available just about anywhere pine trees are found, and refining it is cheap and easy. C'mon - you can do this!
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I was just waiting for that pitch to combust when you brought it in the house. I nearly burned down my garage by doing this indoors. Watching this brought back all that anxiety. To any of the kids watching -- do this outdoors and in place where you won't start a forest fire if you knock it over when it spontaneously combusts on you!
Live and learn.
I am a forestry student, couldn't find a video of how to do this. That was so amazing and easy thankyou sir.
Thank you, and thanks for watching.
It's amazingly simple to make everyday things like I'm reading in the comments here with pine sap that before I would have paid a lot of money for. They never taught us this in school but they should have.
Why would you possibly want to toss all of that GREAT fire extender material away! When ever I process resin I take those needles, twigs and bugs...toss in some saw dust and mix it up. As it cools down just roll that precious goodness in to little marble size balls and toss them into my Altoids box. That stuff is to good to be simply tossed out or burned up. Face it, the "junk" is loaded with that sap and is going to greatly extend your fire starting time! Try it some time!
If ya toss the filter in the snow, or in the freezer, you can just knock the pitch off if youd like. Then save the pitch for firestarter.
I second this statement. I stick my filters in a freezer because I live in the city and can’t burn in limits.
This video was informative, articulate and well done. You gave a bit more info to some of the other treatments of this topic and you didn’t blather on. It was interesting and got to the point and they got a recommendation for a good hatchet. Five stars.🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Thanks very much for watching, and for your comments. Cheers!
Pine tar pitch is used for sealing wood surfaces of dugout canoes and such. Too, the pitch can be mixed with boiled linseed oil and turpentine to make finishes. The finish is easy to maintain and is quite durable. It was used in gun stocks that endured through all manner of abuse during the World Wars.
Hello! Can I use other drying oil than the linseed oil?
Girl, if you know what a drying oil is there is no need to answer your question. :-) We both know what is in boiled Linseed oil.
I like Tung, but I have no experience with hemp...
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Highly flammable
@@bsmt1cquirongglyka137, yes. PURE tung oil would be an improvement, just as it is in high end finishes. Walnut would work too.
Wow, great video, you're very good at explaining and demonstrating. Thanks for the lesson!
Your setup is so practical! Thank you for the content.
Great video!! Thank you very much for showing. I have been harvesting pitch for the last few days and plan on refining it for hand salve. This was very helpful! :)
Thank you for watching and for commenting. Good luck with your salve project.
Thanks for the demonstration. Just moved to a property with loads of pine trees - will have to give this a go
Good luck. It's useful stuff.
Thanks for the video. I'm just learning that pine has healing properties. I'm trying to learn as much as possible.
Some of the old folkways are turning out to be as good as or better than "better living through chemistry." I've seen some people recommend drinking turpentine - not sure I'm ready to get on board with that one. I'd tend to proceed with an abundance of caution on taking any volatile, flammable substance internally. Cheers.
I have been collecting pine pitch for about 60 years. I use steam to process it. It is one of the very best wood preservatives for old fashioned wooden cross country skis, tool handles, and making soap.
Sounds like a good use for it. Thanks for your comment.
@J D i have a steam jacketed kettle. It is much safer than open flame. I used to work in commercial appliance servicing. Any and all appliances discarded by any of my clients went home with me. It was easy to replumb it to my home crafted boiler.
Pine tar soap is my favorite. If you haven't tried it, do. Question: is this refined pitch the same as pine tar purchased in a can?
@@christopherkadishcreative7220 nope they are completely different things, although clearly most people here are clueless of that fact.
What Nelly!!! Mr. DANGEROUS in the kitchen. Lol.
Yeah. Sometimes the unexpected happens. There was a reason why I chose a non-flammable surface on which to work. What you don't see (because it's off-camera) is the fire extinguisher that we keep within reach of the stove. Thanks for watching!
@@SCSlimBoiseID well ya definitely deterred me from attempting it in my rental unit. Lol
Awesome. If you crush and mix the rosin with about 60 percent denatured alcohol to dissolve it you can use it for soldering as well. I was going to buy a bag of it, for stained glass work, but I think it'll be more fun to make. I love having things that are multipurpose. Rosin is one of those
Indeed. That particular tree sadly is no more. It was hopelessly riddled with pine borers, so we had it removed. Still have around 1lb of processed resin, though.
Awesome! I have a big lump of fir sap I need to filter. I did not think to melt it down again. I hope it works. Thanks so much!
Thank you so much! Just what I needed. I am making bee's wraps with ... well ... bee's wax, but to make it more malleable I need jojoba oil and pine rosin. Have lots of pine trees in the yard!! Thanks - great instructions - clear, concise and very helpful.
I'm looking to make wax wraps also!
How did it turn out with the pine resin?
Came for the same reason!
How did it turn out? I’m having trouble finding it locally and I don’t want to order off amazon
What are the bees wraps for? Are they the cloth ones to wrap food in?
Ingenuity at it's best! I have all the same equipment as you, including the gerber axe and now saw combo and often use a trangia so I think I will attempt to purify resin this way. I have seen lots of different methods, from water straining through a cloth to melting it over an open fire but this is by far the most simple and efficient way yet.
I think it worked well. Only thing I might do differently next time is not let it boil for quite as long. The filtered resin was very pure - virtually no particulate matter or debris. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Good luck!
@jay adams Sounds interesting. What would the end product be?
I don’t even burn it. I set my pitch in denatured Alc for about 2weeks. Shaking my jars every day or every other day. I let the product settle then decant the top alc to save for another batch. I then filter the remaining product. I then condense the remains to collect to remaining alcohol. Nothing gets wasted. Plus the alcohol smells so good when it is finally burned. I’ve collected buckets of tar this way. If I had to calculate I’d say 1 gallon of pure alcohol will yield maybe 10 gallons of the good stuff. My process takes time but it’s worth it to me. Leaves a nice honey for all the pine purposes. 😂. I make my own product paper with it for sealing it is an awesome substance with many uses. My favorite is liquid soldering flux because of the smell.
Thanks for sharing your process. Maybe I’ll do a video on mine. Completely taught from experiments.
I still have most of the pitch that I harvested and refined, but the tree is gone - it was hovering on the ragged edge of being killed by pine beetle larvae, so we had it removed.
Outstanding! I use pine gum and pine tar all the time in my soap. I was thinking about harvesting myself for fun.
My dad used to get pine tar soap now and then. I remember using it as a boy. Cheers.
@louiseleu I make Kreamy Soaps. Our pine tar bar is a best seller.
I'm going to get busy collecting pitch. Thanks again Glen.
Straight to the point lesson. Thanks!
Very informative. Im doing research on naturally sourced fuels. Tree sap seems to be an amazing substance. Think of all the trial and error that went into discovering these wonderful gadgets
Nicely done. Thank you!
Awesome video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge
Thanks very much for watching. Cheers.
I've got plenty of that around. Bummer on the rain. A lot of debris. Good fire with the filter. Thanks Glen. I'll be collecting some of that.
It's good stuff. As long as the trees are handing it out for free, might as well make use of it. Our ancestors did. Cheers.
Right on. Cheers!
Thank you for making this video 👍. Just what I am looking for
Thanks for watching. Good luck with your project!
Thank you very much my dude, I burn it as incense but it can be pricey and there's not much sense in buying it when its just right there chilling in the woods. Thanks for the guidance and I hope you have a good day and an even better tomorrow💌:)
Thanks for sharing!
Fantastic tutorial thanks for sharing your knowledge.
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Wow what an awesome video thank you!
Thanks for sharing it was cool to see how easy it is also I like how you clean the screen haha multipurpose
It seemed the natural thing to do with it, and the fire did a very good job of removing all traces of pitch from the filter. Thanks for checking out the vid. Cheers.
There is an easy way to get refined pitch. Along the Gulf Coast, pines along the beach get cut by driftwood during storms. Many have small yellow globs of hard resin, the size of marbles. Just collect them in a can and use as needed.
A great use is in soldering corroded copper wire, like boat trailer lights that go into salt water. . With the hot iron tip, push the wire into a ball of resin until it smokes, then solder in the usual way. It works waaaay better than rosin cored solder.
Good information. Cheers.
Makes sense. I do some soldering now and then, so that's something I will try. Rosin core solder hasn't always worked well in my experience - kind of hit or miss. Good information. Thank you.
Thanks! I appriciate this video!
Thank you for watching! Cheers.
"Fun with fire" - best line in the video...hehehehe
Great instructional video... thanks for sharing.
Thank you for checking it out! Cheers.
Yeah, how to potentially burn your house down.
Well that was really cool!
Thank you 😎
6:03 - How to burn your house down.. Don't do this indoors folks!
On a stove? It's not going to burn anything down. It's going to smoke up the house and choke him stupid for a while. I regularly melt 30lbs of sap at a time in the house, never had an incident. It helps if you're not a moron.
@@HagakureJunkie The fumes this creates are flammable, if the heat source is too hot they can ignite.
@@HagakureJunkie "Life's hard. It's harder if you're stupid." - John Wayne. I may be clumsy, but I'm not stupid. Clumsy can still mess up your day, though.
Thank you for your information I appreciate it. Your 9 minute video could have been done in 2 but I reckon I survived lol
Hope you didn't suffer too much.
Verry good.Thank you.
Well, I learned a great deal from this video. Didn't realize all that wood would literally "melt". From what I hear its a great antiseptic or to patch things up. Never heard of this being a "tea" to drink, and I would NOT try it if my life depended on that. You keep the tea theory, Ill just "stick" to putting it on wounds and horse hooves and such.
It wasn't all that long ago that our ancestors only had what nature provided to work with. Better living through chemistry isn't always better, IMO. I appreciate your comments. Stay safe out there.
@@SCSlimBoiseID, sometimes, old technology is the better technology. For example, my fences look far better than those surface coated with paint, poly or heavy oils (also hardening finishes).
Simply thinning used motor oil and applying it with a pump up sprayer (USE A MASK) will saturate the wood with oil, which replaces lost moisture, minimizing cracks and splits, since the oil swells the wood.
The same concept can be applied to butcher blocks or even cedar shingles and shakes.
You don't want to drink this for a 'tea' as it would be toxic, like turpentine.
Great video!
Thank you!
well done. thank you
This is so cool!
Nicely done video thanks.I would suggest to always mess with pine sap and fire outside in a safe place.Your insurance co. wouldn't like to pay for a kitchen fire.Also if you wanted fire starter one could dip thin wood strips like paint stir sticks into the warm sap and hang them to drip dry..I find mine inside wood stumps and stobs that have rotted off.
No kitchen fires here - nope, can"t have that going on. That same tree is ready for another harvest. Think I"ll try less heat next time. Cheers.
Thank you, great video
Bravo20 Ghost Thanks for watching. The tree is laden with pitch again so it's about time to harvest more.
This was tight ❤🔥
Thank you. Well done.
Thanks for watching!
Us southern country boys calls that Pine Rosum (sounds like Raw Zun). We saved a white oak tree from dying in 80’s that roots where seeping out the Sap and army ants was eating it and killing the tree. I was 14 and did it with REAL fire and iron skillet
You pitch good ideas
The dregs after filtering shud be wrapped up in foil to use on camping /fishing /survival trips as they are an xelent sure fire starter
No question about that. Curiously, though, pure, refined pine pitch (resin)alone isn't as effective a fire starter as it would appear, due to the large amount of soot it generates. The soot thickly coats whatever fuel material lies above it and acts as an insulator against ignition of the fuel. I've had that happen a number of times, and found it best to use lots of dry tinder and just a little bit of resin to get that going - let the tinder ignite the fuel. Thanks for your comments. Cheers.
Thanks for posting. I learned something about pine rosin. I'll be refining some as we have lots of pines in our woods above the house. I usually go and get fat lighter in the summertime. Will be looking for secreting pine trees now. What is the refined rosin mixed with bee's wax good for?
It seems to affect the melting temperature somewhat. Beeswax tends not to smoke as much as parafin does and much less than resin alone. I am going to double the amount I added before and see if I can make the mixture softer and more easily shaped while warm but not hot. If that works, then .... we'll see what can be done with it. Cheers.
Excellent video. I wouldnt recommend that little hatchet though, my friend bought the exact same one and lent it to me while we were bush crafting. While doing v cuts on a pine branch the size of a baseball bat it snapped in half where that hollow spot is near the handle. A strong solid wood handle is much better ive found
It hasn't shown any signs of weakening, but your point is valid. I prefer wood handles, but that hatchet was a gift from a relative, so I put it to use. One thing I can say in its defense - it can take an edge and hold it for longer than expected. Thanks for your comment! Cheers.
the head looked well machined. Honestly i think i was just striking with it too hard.
@@judah9297 Hard to say. Material imperfections aren't always visible until they cause a structural failure.
denatured alcohol will also dissolve the resin and then let it evaporate and it melds together in one lump
Robert Palumbo Good tip. Will try that on the next batch. Cheers.
Can you elaborate on the process?
Thank you for the informative video! Really helped me. :) How do you take the refined resin out of the can once it cools down? Thanks again.
That's a good question. It would either have to be re-melted (at a lower temperature), which is what I did, or the can could be removed from around it with tin snips or a dremel-style tool and cutoff wheel. For storage, the one I cooked the resin down and re-melted it in works just fine for that as well. Thanks for watching.
I've been in a pickle trying to source rosin flux for a bit of soldering I need to do. Turns out I have all the rosin I need in my back yard! Once I purify it I can just add a bit of alcohol and or petroleum jelly and I should be set.
Sounds like a good work-around solution when rosin core solder isn't available or appropriate for the job.👍
Thank you very much excellent video.
Is it possible to melt all types of resins in this way?
Should be possible, but I think I'll use less heat next time, though; I'd like to keep more of the volatile components in the finished product so it's not quite so brittle when cooled (if that's possible). Otherwise, I was happy with the results.
Neat one thanks
Does it work the same in a double boiler type set up? Or only directly over an open flame? Thank you so much.
Maybe. I tied putting a glass jar full of chunks of pitch into boilng water but they would not melt. I don't have a real double boiler (DB), so that's as close as I could get. As gunked up it was with needles and bugs, I wanted it to liquify enough to pour easily through the filter screen, so it had to be hot. When it cooled, it was was the color of dark tea and hard like peanut brittle. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
I'd fill that can 3 or 4 times for the air and all the crap that will be in the pitch!
If it burns so long, could it be a substitute fuel for heating and cooking when regular fuel is not so easy to collect, like when caught in a rain or snow storm while camping? Also, what about fumes from burning pine pitch?
It's pretty smoky and leaves a lot of soot on the bottom of any pot or pan used to cook in. I don't know about fumes, but I wouldn't light it in a confined space. That said, it could be used to cook over. I'd rather use wood, though, if it's available. Burning pitch is fairly resistant to wind blowing it out, but I've never tried to start a fire with it in the rain - I like "Wet Fire Tinder Cubes" for that. I once got caught in a heavy sleet downpour while hunting and got soaked to the bone and so cold I was numb all over - fingers barely worked. I found shelter under a really tall spruce tree, where the ground was dry and the sleet didn't penetrate. I got a fire going and used the lower, dead branches for fuel - saved myself from hypothermia that day. Thanks for watching.
Make a mini still ... Collect the condensate ... Turpentine ...
Is it easy to do? Thx
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Yup ... An old pressure cooker/canner for melting, some coiled copper tubing and cold water gor condensing the vapor to liquid ... Buncha vids about simple home still ...
Thanks for the video. I was wondering where did you get the filter/screen?
Bought that screen at the "dollar store," which is now the $1.25 store. I found it in the kitchen utensils aisle. It's made to be a screen for kitchen sinks, but worked rather well for straining molten resin. Thanks for watching!
Thanks
I prefer using alcohol to break it.down instead does heat. Makes for an easier filter and nice clean pretty rosin . I just made some tonight
Thanks
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Awesome! Can you use it to make hardened amber-like stones n jewelry?
I don't think it's hard enough. It could be worked or cast onto cabachons, but I doubt they would stand up to much wear. Would be cool to make a string of pearl-like beads that could be worn as a necklace with the beads useful for fire building. They say that amber will burn, but I've never tested that ... don't have any amber. Thanks for watching and for your comment. Cheers
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I have to ask, where you came up with that filter? did you make it or did you buy it?
Bought it at the dollar store. It's just a screen that is supposed to go in the kitchen sink drain to keep it from getting clogged.
Hey, I tried igniting some dry sap/resin with a fera rod but it didn’t catch at all. Anyone have any luck with this? Or does it only work with fresh gooey sap? Thanks!
Only thing I can think of to try with really dry resin would be to crush it into a power and try throwing sparks on it from a ferro rod. Never tried that and I kind of doubt that it would work, but it might. The idea would be to create as much surface area and small particles as possible for the sparks to ignite. Some tinders that we'd think would ignite quite easily just don't - like dry leaves, for example. It's nearly impossible to get them lit with a ferro rod only. Cat tail fluff or cotton balls, on the other hand, take a spark quite easily.
@@SCSlimBoiseID yea.. I tried crushing it into powder but it just didn’t work. Either I need to crush a lot more or like you said, some materials just won’t catch a spark..
Wife: What the F*CK happened to my drain filter and cutting board?!?!
I bought the drain filter at the dollar store specifically for filtering pitch. :)
When i melt my pine resin it solidifies quite quickly not giving me enough time to filter it
Probably needs to be hotter. It's tricky. If you get it too hot, the turpentine in it will boil away and, while it will pour/filter quite easily, it will also become very brittle when cool, like rock candy. That's what happened to mine. Later, I re-melted some and mixed it with equal parts beeswax. That made it a bit softer. Good luck with yours.
Anyone know of any good books on the uses for and cultivation of pine sap?
I don't know of any specifically about that topic. Most all conifers produce pitch that you can find somewhere on the trunk or limbs, where it acts like a scab to seal an injury. Thanks for watching.
Can I use any tree sap? Great tutorial by the way.
The sap or pitch from conifers is particularly useful because of its flammable characteristics, and its stickiness when fresh. Once it is refined, as in this video, it tends to become like caramelized sugar - hard and brittle. It can be re-melted, mixed with bee's wax or other ingredients to make a number of useful substances. The saps from deciduous trees is typically much more watery and usually non-flammable as they come from the tree. Some types have medicinal properties, or can be collected and drunk (birch sap), or boiled to make syrup (sugar maple sap). Many bushcrafting and outdoor survival books include uses for various tree saps. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
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Growing up....we would chew on pine pitch....is it bad to do so?
I don't know what harm would be associated with that, unless maybe you swallowed the "juice" associated with chewing it. My older brother and I used to chew roofing tar when we found it spilled at construction sites. Couldn't afford chewing gum.
Hey where can I buy the catting tool like yours ?
Catting tool? If you mean "cutting tool," that one was a gift to me from my nephew. However, they are available at just about any "big box" sporting goods store. They are made by Gerber. I think they all it a "camp axe combo."
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Does it help clean the chimney flue?
Doubt it. Pine resin has way too much soot, at least in my experience. We had a chimney sweep check the fireplace from bottom to top and he found it to be A-okay, but then we don't routinely use resin to start fires in it. In fact, if it weren't for the demo, I could say we NEVER use it to start fires in the fireplace - only occasionally outdoors when camping. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
So, it doesn't matter if the pine resin is fresh or hardened? You can still harvest it and refine it no matter what?
It's certainly easier to harvest after it has hardened, that's for sure. A chunk that's just been chipped off will be gooey and sticky on the side that was closest to the tree, but mostly try to the touch on the outside. As the pitch continues to ooze, needles, bugs, and other debris get stuck in it, which is a reason to purify it if you don't want those things hanging around in your finished product. If you're simply gathering some for immediate use in fire starting, it's good to go right off the tree. Cheers.
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Is it called pine sap or pine pitch while it’s on the tree?
It's pretty much the same thing either way. If it's drippy, I call it sap. If it's thicker and stickier (or solid), I call it pitch.
My use of pine resin (soft) is for incense. I have a bunch of hard piñon pine resin that is hard that I want to refine for later, but does this process melt off all the fragrant essential oils -- I imagine it might. Hard resin has a lot of impurities in it. Suggestions?
This process uses a higher heat than you might need. If I had a pressure cooker, I might try putting the raw resin in a canning jar and heat it that way. The resin from my tree doesn't melt in boiling water but it almost does, so I'd think that it would't take much more heat to liquify it enough to filter. The essential oils boil off the way I refine it - that's what was burning when the vapors caught fire. You could also recapture them by distillation. Thanks for watching and for your comments.
The resin I bought is all hardened, so it may need higher heat. I wonder about using a double-boiler to melt it down. I think distilling is probably the best way to capture the oils -- I've not personally done this, but you can grab oils out of pine needles if you want. The hardware is readily available on Amazon. Might be fun to try (if I don't burn the house down LOL).
Yes indeed. Burning the house down is something best avoided if at all possible. ;) Cheers.
If you boiled it in water in a clear container couldn't you decant all the light materials off, then pour off the mid layer, and dump the heavies and have pure 'rosin' for violins? Isn't that how the stuff is made roughly?
I tried it, using a mason jar - the boiling water didn't get the pitch hot enough. It softened it into a gooey lump, but nowhere near hot enough to pour. I suspect that a pressure cooker would do the trick, but I don't have one. I've never made rosin, but we have some around the house (wife plays the violin); it certainly is highly purified and free of contaminants. Even though the source tree wasn't in the forest, I tried to use the kinds of vessels and heating methods I'd have with me in my backpack, even after the weather drove me indoors. Finding a tree naturally bearing that amount of pitch would be a godsend in for someone in a primitive living situation by choice or otherwise. Thanks for your comments and suggestion. Cheers.
good vid
Ethmat 135 Thank you. Same tree is ready for another harvest.
Do you just let it air dry or do you stick it in the fridge?
Air dry. 👍
Just curious what you would use the refined resin for ? Ive used it right off the tree to start fires but thats it. Let me know, Thanks !
It can be used to make a "primitive" glue, or as an additive to other waxes for candles, for example. Thanks for watching.
@@SCSlimBoiseID, Perfect, Thank you !
Pine resin is medicinal. Use it on cuts as you would a liquid bandage.
@@reibersue4845 Thanks !
Can you add this to a salve and apply on face?
Gnome Beard I've seen some recipes on YT for making such balms and ointments. I haven't tried that myself, but am interested in other uses besides fire starting. Thanks for your comment. Cheers.
Dont there are easier ways to damage yr face.Are u a masochist?
Can the resultant rosin be effectively used for soldering?
Yes, you can mix it by weight 25-60 percent rosin to 75-40 percent denatured alcohol. Depends on how viscous you want it. Powder it before you mix with alcohol, stir it up, and let it sit for 24 hours. Add 1% (about a drop) of glycerin to the mix to cut down on any smoking.
@@watcherwatchmen7785 Thanks for such a detailed response, it'll be useful
In Northern Spain they harvest resin by wounding the tree and attaching a plastic bag of water beneath the wound.
Kind of like how maple trees are tapped for sap to make maple syrup.
You may like to see how turpentine was collected from the pine forest areas of the southern states. Cat face pines or stumps can still be found. The cat face is solid fatwood/liter.
I will check it out. Thanks for that. Cheers.
Can it be used to make clothing waterproof?
Doubt it - at least not how it came out in this instance. When it cooled, it was very brittle - not flexible at all. I would think that some kind of soft wax would be better, or an oil.
If you mixed smal chips of wood with it on low heat, would it make homemade fatwood?
Good question. I don't know whether the melted pitch would soak into the wood or stay on the surface.
@@SCSlimBoiseID, I use the pitch to treat outdoor projects, but thin it with turpentine and boiled linseed oil. The end product soaks in well.
You could skip the boiled linseed oil, and go to paint thinner or even kerosene and it would still get good penetration.
The punkier and dryer the wood, the easier pine tar pitch can soak in. Very punky wood would allow you to use less thinner.
In the end, much of your success depends on the materials and how much money and effort you want to put in to fire starter.
For reference, I use garage sale candles I pick up for, say, a nickle. I melt them (dedicated double boiler) and lint, pellets (pour and mix in five gallon bucket), dried grass, . . . .
The pitcher to the catcher...
I've tried this but the resin just went brown and didn't melt. What can I do to liquidify it?
Try adjusting the heat up, a little at a time. I used an alcohol stove to melt mine and the heat was, I think, a little too high. Next time, I will put more space between the flame source and the melting vessel. I first tried melting it in a canning jar that was placed into boiling water, but it didn't melt.
I was just thinking about placing it in boiled water too, thanks dor saving aome time for me
@@ghosti3073 Might work on a pressure cooker, where the temp is higher than boiling water.
Dude, I signed up for your channel. I have a question based on a study I'm doing. The question is whether the epoxy resin or epoxy in general. Is this matter extracted from the pine tree and not from the earth? Sorry for my lack of knowledge!
The epoxy resin is that I am most familiar with is the two-part kind, where you mix the resin and curative hardener in equal amounts to create the bonding agent. Most are made from petroleum derivatives, although some newer formulations are said to incorporate plant-based derivatives. I don't know specifically which plant species are used or in which brands of epoxy. I'm not aware of any made with pine resin, although that certainly doesn't mean there aren't any. A primitive glue can be made by mixing pine resin, powdered charcoal, and some plant fiber (like finely-ground dry grass or an ungulate manure), but I'm not sure that qualifies as an epoxy-type glue. Cheers.
OK friend. I understood your response and thank you for the feedback. Success on your channel ... looking forward to more videos.
Jefferson Felix Thank you! Best wishes, and stay safe out there.
Jeff Epoxy is not a natural product &is a lab concoction
Can you make use of spruce resin instead?
Sure - any conifer will produce sticky, resinous pitch (Harz) that is good for many uses.
@@SCSlimBoiseID Thank you sir!
If you pour it as a resign on a live edge coffee table is there a way to polish it to a sheen
Fransico Benitez Never tried that. There is a trick you can use with urethane varnish, though, that gives a high sheen and no bubbles. Not sure it would work with pine resin. Thanks for asking.
Table resin is different than pine resin.
@6:14. Now I know what you meant by the "smoke catching on fire"
That was interesting - almost reached for the fire extinguisher, but sometimes those can briefly make matters worse. ;)
I bet if you took the pitch crap (while it was still warm) and smashed it down into a small PVC pipe that was lined with a wax paper tube and let it cool/set , you, then push that tube of pitch-crap out and then cut it into small rounds, they would make excellent tinder/fire starters!
Might be worth a try. I tried pouring the melted pitch into the egg holes in an egg carton, then cutting them out to make 12 fire starters. The few that I used worked pretty well. Thanks for watching.
Pine needles do the same with a lot less effort.
They are amazing tinder. I chopped some up into manageable pieces and included them in some of the egg carton fire starters. The egg carton paper acts like a candle wick, once the resin starts to melt. A few needles sticking out make convenient wicks as well. Thanks for watching. Cheers.
After melting, is it ready to use, or do I have to add something to it?
Depends on what you have in mind. It's ready to make firestarters with. You can add finely ground charcoal to the melted pitch and make a useful primitive glue. I added two big (9-hour) beeswax lantern candles in hopes that it would set up more flexible, but it wasn't quite enough. I'm planning to reheat it and add one or two more - see what happens. I might also heat it to melted and then add turpentine to see if it returns to its sticky, gummy state, but with impurities removed. Thanks for your question! Stay safe out there.
@@SCSlimBoiseID thanks for your answer, I'm planning on using it for curing an andenean tiger ant of south america. We want to make a cool necklace with it. If it works I'll start sealing leaves and insects for selling cool necklaces and earings.
@@jamesmccoy3058 I'd recommend trying that first with something that doesn't matter if it's ruined, because it might not come out as transparent as you want it to. Try melting and purifying at the lowest possible temperature so that the sugars in the pitch don't caramelize quite so much, but you can still filter out or skim off the debris. It sounds like you want to create something like amber - you might want to do some research on how to go about that with tree resin/pitch, and what other materials are used for that purpose. The refined pitch I came out with was quite brittle - akin to peanut brittle - and too dark to see through, except maybe in very thin chips. Whatever you choose to do, good luck. Sounds like an interesting project. Cheers.
@@SCSlimBoiseID Wow will do, thank you very much!
OK So here goes, I have to ask the dingbat question today.. What was the pipe in the pine tree for, just curious?
allenrobin6900 There is no pipe in the pine tree. If you can associate what you're seeing as a pipe with the elapsed time where you see it, I might be able to tell you what it is. Cheers.
It is a cut off branch. Not a pipe.
it is just like refining beeswax. Very cool video, what are you going to do with it next?
Not sure. I thought of mixing it 50/50 with beeswax to make a candle that smells like a campfire. Don't know if it will work, but that's how discoveries are made - trial and error, right? Thanks for watching!