Kia Ora Ryan, I have been watching your videos with my 5 year old son. We love your content. We live a simple life in Aotearoa NZ. We home school our kids and you are a fantastic teacher. We struggle to find the right rocks for knapping but we're going to try and heat treat some of our local jasper and learn together. Our goal is to make him his first knife. Thanks again mate.
Great instructional video Ryan, I learned something new re the addition of an animal fat. My only experience with making pine pitch glue centered around what I was told is the traditional recipe, that being pine sap, charcoal, and dried rabbit droppings.
I’m a lifelong maker and craftsman. I’ve been watching your videos because I found a sudden interest in knapping. I made my first arrowhead yesterday on my first try thanks to your instruction. Now I’m gonna be looking for some pine tar. Probably be making a bow and arrows soon. Thank you.
I have to say… One of the very few men I actually enjoy teaching this stuff. It is a bit tricky to find guys whose overly „manly“ delivery does not put me off immediately. 😅 Thank you for this very informative video! I really like the details you give about what do add to find the right mixture! Subscribed!
Absolutely but its very commonly found in pine forests so why bother collecting it unless u plan on moving somewhere else than there is no point collecting
@@Dav624 Emergency situations need prep. Even Ozi the iceman had his fire starting kit. Putting a little natural fire accelerant along with birch bark etc, speeds the process of warmth ... and protection from carnivores.
@@michaelpcooksey5096 yeah like I said unless ur going into the icy mountains or cold places where there are no pines there is no need to collect it if ur not planning on leaving pine forests
@@Dav624 Well ... if caught in an unexpected situation when time is critical ... [already in 1st stage of hypothermia] ... one would not have the time to browse the forrest. Thank you for the comeback.
Love this recipe and i'll be trying it soon. I've made it so many ways thru the years and this looks good. One thing I do is to powder my hands with charcoal when I'm working with it to keep it from sticking to me. Its like making dough with flour and we add a little dry flour to keep it from sticking to us. Just thought it mite help.
I'm glad I re-watched instead of just asking questions. I'm fixing to make some cave-man glue and now know I need two types and will render some deer tallow down. I've heard bear fat is best but haven't harvested a bear ... yet. It's early spring and my nettles are dormate but I'm going to check see if any fiber survived. We had the mildest winter in my memory. Which is longer than I like to think about. Good info.
I did a 23and me and they found I have 40percent more Neanderthal ancestry than most of the population that was studied. From my Italian ancestors. Wich explains a lot. I have always been mesmerized by your videos and felt a certain "itching" inside while watching these videos. I have started making a self bow and found that I can just do it for hours despite blisters and the blood I out into the wood lol . I know who cares , but I felt I should share it .
Same. I have always felt I was born in the wrong time. I really feel best outdoors, intuitively able to identify the resources around me. I often feel I would have been happier in the 15 or 1600's, pre colonization.
Hadca locust bow that I had steamed the tips for reflex. Ended up lifting the wood fibers off the belly. Back of the bow was still good. Fellow suggested pine pitch glue and a sinew wrap. So far so good. It's useful stuff.
Another thing to make decent char for the job is charring sticks of willow that are no thicker than a finger. It's the recommended char for black powder because it grinds down so fine, so it will be perfect for the rosin glue / pine pitch glue.
If you have problems removing sticky sap, desinfect your hands with the allaround hand desinfecters. Pine sap is water resistend (doh, it's the band aid of a tree and it's sometimes raining outside...) so you can use alcohol to get rid of it :)
This is really good to see. I wondered why my pitch glue was not very good. I used wood charcoal. I would think that bamboo charcoal would do just as well, as we don’t have Yukka downunda. 😉👍
Any plant fiber would do the job. Generally a resilient one, but after charring that resilience is not to be found anyway. The main point of it is to get char in the fibrous version. So jute, hemp, sisal, nettles are great contenders, but cotton or basically dried grass should also work just as fine. While not really sure as to why fibrous would work better I suppose it has something to do with the way hard pine pitch fractures and the added char would impose fracturing end points and stop propagation and going around lines is harder than going through points when a fracture plane develops.
@@rexmagi4606 Yucca grows in some high mountain desert environments. It doesn't need much water and some verities found as high as 8500 feet. It is also known as soapweed or soap plant, technically Joshua trees are a type of yucca.
Yucca isn't native to Australia, but it is a common ornamental plant that is well suited to the climate and can sometimes be found in the wild since it spreads fairly easily.
I used that method and got amazingly good results. I used it to glue a flint spearhead to a shaft. Then i just secured it with thin paracord. I got myself a prety good spear
I can't be the only one who would have rather spent my day to day time living in nature and making what I need when I need it than living the modern life of excess. I wish I could afford to buy enough land to homestead. I can't wait to get out of the city.
If it's a pre-pottery society, what would you use? Stone bowl instead? Drilling through a stone bowl probably takes hours, but maybe it lasts forever. Or wood bowl?
I'm thinking about using pine pitch as pipe dope for a shallow well. I can't think of anything else to use, I'm not a fan of drinking teflon so I'm not going that route.
Never used it as glue but I've made fire starter from it I Mic it with sawdust and start forming it around a cotton ball. Easy to light with a Ferro rod
30 years ago I made my first pine pitch from a 1940s survival book ,it turned out to be more stiff like roofing pitch ,I have a piece my nephew made and his is hard and brittle. This is gonna be awesome to tea h the scouts that hunt like we do.
Hey bub im makeing a longbow an do I put the inside wood on the belly or on the back an I thank it's hickory i just don't want to brake it trying to use the hard part on the rong side ?
I have a question why burn or char the cordage, why not just cut it up in little pieces say about 1/8-inch in length wouldn't the cordage be stronger if it wasn't chard
@@nonprooutdoorsandmore2303 yeah, I know. I've watched his bottle knapping videos, same as gregpryorhomestead's glass knapping videos. I've even made a glass point, but I want to see Ryan do it.
I would love to see Ryan do it too honestly, I love huntin arrowheads and I came across his flintknappin video and I'm hooked and got into all of it now, good thing cuz winter is comin and I'll have somethin to do
Hey Ryan, 2 questions: 1. Where is the best place to look for the hard resin nuggets? Roots, knots in the tree? Dead or alive? 2. Can you reheat and cool the pitch an unlimited numbers of time? Or does the tempers weaken the pitch over time? Also, using the shell as a small bowl is a practical trick I never thought of. Definitely going to use this in ten future! Great video!
I dont know about the first question but the secone one?Well u can reheat it only for as long as it still exists and it won't weaken anything but the thing is while heating this glue u lose some of it because some of it just evaporates from the heat so yeah everytime u use it u lose some of it in the smoke but that's usually unnoticeable amount that ur gonna end up losing anyway it's like silicone glue it can get weak when heated but strong when cooled down there is no difference to the Quality of the glue by heating it over and over again and again u just lose some of it if u do that process too many times without applying the glue to anything and just letting it dry in ur container hope this helps
But what if you don’t live near Pine trees, I’ve seen zero pine trees in my area despite traveling to multiple wooded areas. Can you use another trees sap or other materials?
Hi Ryan, thank you for this excellent video. Would you know of any alternative for the yucca that I could find in the North-East? You said nettle? Like stinging nettle? That must be hard to collect, no ?
I was going to ask if you could use it to bind wounds, but I suppose with the charred rope fibers that would be a bad idea. So what do you recommend for closing wounds?
Nice video. I got 40 acres in the Great Basin that I like to do wildyness things at. Question for you about the fat/grease: Is there any plant-based ingredient that could be used? For instance, if I was dropped into the wild and needed to make this from scratch, I wouldn't be able to kill the bear for the grease prior to making the bear killing weapon. I know it's kind of ridiculous, but I'm more or less just wondering if something like pine nut butter (since pinions are common in the Basin) would work for making it less brittle?
Wow, this is incredible! My head is firing up with ideas! Do you think the glue would make a good coating for the clay pots to store your fat in? Make it seal so it doesn't seep out, or attract ants, or rodents? Also could you use just the resin and pour it thin on a flat rock and use it like a window? It seems it would make a nice honey color, and be brittle, but I wonder if you could get it off the rock after if you were real careful. Also small panes would be best, then use to glue to seal them together, or adhere wood strips to make a larger window. Think it would work?
I know this has nothing to do with the pitch glue but your hunting points how thin are they. I would think they would be thicker than most knapper try to do because they are not for show they are for hunting. And most artifacts I have seen are way more thicker than what is done today. Thanks for all you knowledge you share with us.
Can you also cast this resin in an arrowhead form and use it instead of obsidian arrowheads? Could you try and test these arrowheads? I think it would be easier than shaping the obsidian into a good arrowhead.
I've tried and they do not mix at all in my experience, also the hide glue tends to caramelize (for lack of a better word) at higher temperatures and just clumps together forming nothing to brag about.
Which trees have hard pitch? is that the white pine? Or the red pine (Norway) & what state are you in to give a geophysical area which trees you collect from?
Ok,....go into detail about what trees have pine sap,... I'm not finding any even when I ding trees. Next question have you tried charring deer and rabbit dung? I always felt that since I don't find any measurable amounts of Sap from spruce and white pine that I'd have to do pine wood like you do burch bark,....in a can in a hot fire,....then I'd get both charcoal and Pine tar.
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Grow up?
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Not too late yet, brotha
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I had not realized until your presentation, your recipe for pitch is basically a carbon fiber composite material. Very, very cool.
No fibers, it’s carbon powder.
Kia Ora Ryan, I have been watching your videos with my 5 year old son. We love your content. We live a simple life in Aotearoa NZ. We home school our kids and you are a fantastic teacher. We struggle to find the right rocks for knapping but we're going to try and heat treat some of our local jasper and learn together. Our goal is to make him his first knife.
Thanks again mate.
Are there attempts to ban homeschooling in NZ?
@yuiopoli9601 no, a high absentee rate prohibits them clamping down, lots are dropping our of the indoctrinated system
Amazing father!
@@WWhateverItTakes I've gotta agree.
Great instructional video Ryan, I learned something new re the addition of an animal fat. My only experience with making pine pitch glue centered around what I was told is the traditional recipe, that being pine sap, charcoal, and dried rabbit droppings.
I’m a lifelong maker and craftsman. I’ve been watching your videos because I found a sudden interest in knapping. I made my first arrowhead yesterday on my first try thanks to your instruction. Now I’m gonna be looking for some pine tar. Probably be making a bow and arrows soon. Thank you.
I have to say… One of the very few men I actually enjoy teaching this stuff. It is a bit tricky to find guys whose overly „manly“ delivery does not put me off immediately. 😅
Thank you for this very informative video! I really like the details you give about what do add to find the right mixture! Subscribed!
Left over sticks etc from original pine pitch nuggets are likely a wonderful fire starter accelerant? Could come in handy during a large rain storm.
Absolutely but its very commonly found in pine forests so why bother collecting it unless u plan on moving somewhere else than there is no point collecting
@@Dav624 Emergency situations need prep. Even Ozi the iceman had his fire starting kit. Putting a little natural fire accelerant along with birch bark etc, speeds the process of warmth ... and protection from carnivores.
@@michaelpcooksey5096 yeah like I said unless ur going into the icy mountains or cold places where there are no pines there is no need to collect it if ur not planning on leaving pine forests
@@Dav624 Well ... if caught in an unexpected situation when time is critical ... [already in 1st stage of hypothermia] ... one would not have the time to browse the forrest. Thank you for the comeback.
Love this recipe and i'll be trying it soon. I've made it so many ways thru the years and this looks good. One thing I do is to powder my hands with charcoal when I'm working with it to keep it from sticking to me. Its like making dough with flour and we add a little dry flour to keep it from sticking to us. Just thought it mite help.
Thanks for that! 👍
I'm glad I re-watched instead of just asking questions. I'm fixing to make some cave-man glue and now know I need two types and will render some deer tallow down. I've heard bear fat is best but haven't harvested a bear ... yet. It's early spring and my nettles are dormate but I'm going to check see if any fiber survived. We had the mildest winter in my memory. Which is longer than I like to think about. Good info.
I truly like that chared cordage add on. Makes good sense when you compared it to fiberglass. Thank you.
Thanks for the practical tips for non-standard units along with the basic instructions. Very informative!
I did a 23and me and they found I have 40percent more Neanderthal ancestry than most of the population that was studied. From my Italian ancestors. Wich explains a lot. I have always been mesmerized by your videos and felt a certain "itching" inside while watching these videos. I have started making a self bow and found that I can just do it for hours despite blisters and the blood I out into the wood lol . I know who cares , but I felt I should share it .
No
That itch has nothing to do with your neanderthal ancestry. That's absurd.
Same. I have always felt I was born in the wrong time. I really feel best outdoors, intuitively able to identify the resources around me. I often feel I would have been happier in the 15 or 1600's, pre colonization.
Neanderthal, lol. That's a made up term by "scientists" and weirdo coping atheists.
@@sagewilson1056alas, no modern medicine equals early death
Hadca locust bow that I had steamed the tips for reflex. Ended up lifting the wood fibers off the belly. Back of the bow was still good. Fellow suggested pine pitch glue and a sinew wrap. So far so good. It's useful stuff.
Another thing to make decent char for the job is charring sticks of willow that are no thicker than a finger. It's the recommended char for black powder because it grinds down so fine, so it will be perfect for the rosin glue / pine pitch glue.
Oh I see, it's about the fibres
Great video, Ryan. I bet those leftover bark chunks would make fantastic fire starter.
If you have problems removing sticky sap, desinfect your hands with the allaround hand desinfecters. Pine sap is water resistend (doh, it's the band aid of a tree and it's sometimes raining outside...) so you can use alcohol to get rid of it :)
No
Turpentine should work
Wow where have you been all my life….love this stuff. Thanks
This is really good to see. I wondered why my pitch glue was not very good. I used wood charcoal. I would think that bamboo charcoal would do just as well, as we don’t have Yukka downunda. 😉👍
Any plant fiber would do the job. Generally a resilient one, but after charring that resilience is not to be found anyway. The main point of it is to get char in the fibrous version. So jute, hemp, sisal, nettles are great contenders, but cotton or basically dried grass should also work just as fine.
While not really sure as to why fibrous would work better I suppose it has something to do with the way hard pine pitch fractures and the added char would impose fracturing end points and stop propagation and going around lines is harder than going through points when a fracture plane develops.
@@dragoscoco2173 Dried sawgrass or bullrush leaves are very good. 👍
For high desert environment I'm thinking of using charred juniper bark since they are common and the bark is long and stringy.
@@rexmagi4606 Yucca grows in some high mountain desert environments. It doesn't need much water and some verities found as high as 8500 feet. It is also known as soapweed or soap plant, technically Joshua trees are a type of yucca.
Yucca isn't native to Australia, but it is a common ornamental plant that is well suited to the climate and can sometimes be found in the wild since it spreads fairly easily.
I used that method and got amazingly good results. I used it to glue a flint spearhead to a shaft. Then i just secured it with thin paracord. I got myself a prety good spear
Is there a substitute I could use for the animal grease?
Any kind of rendered fat would probably work
Great recipe for perfect glue use for multi-purpose projects
Loved the valuable lesson and information.
I can't be the only one who would have rather spent my day to day time living in nature and making what I need when I need it than living the modern life of excess. I wish I could afford to buy enough land to homestead. I can't wait to get out of the city.
Thanks for the tips and knowhows for all that you do
When it is hardened can you use it to carve and make small items from it?
can you sand and polish it?
no it won't work for that I don't think
@@huntprimitive9918 ok, thanks
Bloody hell! Well I live and learn. Really well done on explaining how you do that. Thank you very much. A very inspirational video. 🙏👏👏😊
Thank you, for making this video.
You're doing some really good work lately, and so consistently 👍 I love it!
Yep, I think I got it. We'll see though because I've got all the ingredients on hand. Thanks Ryan!
Super cool that you hunt with what you make
Osage shavings make good fire starter. Love your videos .
This is very helpful, I followed the turtorial and made my pine glue first time! (I used tallow
If it's a pre-pottery society, what would you use? Stone bowl instead? Drilling through a stone bowl probably takes hours, but maybe it lasts forever. Or wood bowl?
Soapstone, maybe?
The top of the skull of an enemy perhaps.
The "Slag" that's left after the filtering of your pitch, how does that work for tinder or accelerate for fires?
You just light it
Very thorough presentation. Thanks.
Excellent tutorial Sir
In south central tx , pine trees aren’t real abundant, but I have seen hardened mesquite resin on mesquite trees . Wonder if that would work ?
I do believe so! I heard of people in AZ doing that, and sometimes with juniper too
Excellent! Can I substitute either hemp or grapevine for the yucca cordage?
Looks scrumptious
Excellent video. Could you use lard instead of bear grease for this?
I dont see why you couldn't
I'm thinking about using pine pitch as pipe dope for a shallow well. I can't think of anything else to use, I'm not a fan of drinking teflon so I'm not going that route.
Can you tap a pine tree like a maple tree and store the sap until it thickens?
Never used it as glue but I've made fire starter from it I Mic it with sawdust and start forming it around a cotton ball. Easy to light with a Ferro rod
No
Pine resin is a wonderful fire starting aid and extender. It truly is one of natures miracles. I always have some pieces in my tinder pouch.
Thanks for the video!
30 years ago I made my first pine pitch from a 1940s survival book ,it turned out to be more stiff like roofing pitch ,I have a piece my nephew made and his is hard and brittle. This is gonna be awesome to tea h the scouts that hunt like we do.
Is charred Jute twine a good substitute if there is no access to yucca?
I would think so
Dried nettle stems will work too.
Hey bub im makeing a longbow an do I put the inside wood on the belly or on the back an I thank it's hickory i just don't want to brake it trying to use the hard part on the rong side ?
Excellent lesson. Thank you.
Whats the verdict on pine root cordage for charring
Surely adding animal grease will affect the adhesive properties of the glue or resin /pine pitch glue ?
What would one do if they wanted to make the resin harder?
Well done and excellent information.
Hello! Do you have a general ratio of ingredients?
Can you use bone marrow cooked as the fat?
What kind of grease? Will bacon grease work?
If this has fiberglass like qualities, could you use it to laminate a bow? Or does it not have enough flexibility when it's dry?
Pine pitch can hold fine objects for polishing and grinding aswell
What is yukka cordage, what else can be used in it's place
Great vlog! Where do I find those pine sap nuggets? Base of a pine tree? Thanks for posting.
In place of the bear grease, do you think you could use hemp oil, or another nut or seed oil? Or does it need to be saturated?
im in new zealand, would flax bush be a viable substitute for yaka fiber?
Give it a go! Dried grass, dried nettle stems, jute twine, or cotton will work too.
Any clue what I could use to make pitch in SE Florida? I've never seen a clump of sap in my nearly 50 yrs here.
I have a question why burn or char the cordage, why not just cut it up in little pieces say about 1/8-inch in length wouldn't the cordage be stronger if it wasn't chard
where im in in the PNW i cant find much yucca readily available will black berry cordage work?
Can you do a flintknapping video on glass bottles?
Primitive Pathways has a great video and how to remove the ring from bottles
@@nonprooutdoorsandmore2303 yeah, I know. I've watched his bottle knapping videos, same as gregpryorhomestead's glass knapping videos. I've even made a glass point, but I want to see Ryan do it.
I would love to see Ryan do it too honestly, I love huntin arrowheads and I came across his flintknappin video and I'm hooked and got into all of it now, good thing cuz winter is comin and I'll have somethin to do
I can’t find this on your website. Would love to get some
Love this video! Would rendered lard or beef fat work?
Is this resin what they call pine rosin ? TY
@HuntPrimative How do you make pottery like you do? And dude, you are awesome
Hey Ryan, 2 questions:
1. Where is the best place to look for the hard resin nuggets? Roots, knots in the tree? Dead or alive?
2. Can you reheat and cool the pitch an unlimited numbers of time? Or does the tempers weaken the pitch over time?
Also, using the shell as a small bowl is a practical trick I never thought of. Definitely going to use this in ten future!
Great video!
I dont know about the first question but the secone one?Well u can reheat it only for as long as it still exists and it won't weaken anything but the thing is while heating this glue u lose some of it because some of it just evaporates from the heat so yeah everytime u use it u lose some of it in the smoke but that's usually unnoticeable amount that ur gonna end up losing anyway it's like silicone glue it can get weak when heated but strong when cooled down there is no difference to the Quality of the glue by heating it over and over again and again u just lose some of it if u do that process too many times without applying the glue to anything and just letting it dry in ur container hope this helps
Would jute be a good substitute for yucca?
could we use the carbon from firewood to make it black vs the charred cordage?
But what if you don’t live near Pine trees, I’ve seen zero pine trees in my area despite traveling to multiple wooded areas. Can you use another trees sap or other materials?
Hi Ryan, thank you for this excellent video.
Would you know of any alternative for the yucca that I could find in the North-East? You said nettle? Like stinging nettle? That must be hard to collect, no ?
Only the leaves on Nettles will sting, in case that's why you thought it'd be hard to collect.
I need to work on my glue, mine is too brittle, but gets me by to haft a point or
just a residue to coat my sinew around point and fletchings
What is the purpose of a “temper”?
I was going to ask if you could use it to bind wounds, but I suppose with the charred rope fibers that would be a bad idea. So what do you recommend for closing wounds?
I believe you use just the rendered sap with no additives
cedar resin does the job! I guess pine's would work as well. you'll have to search for freshly wounded trees where resin is still liquid
well maybe sap is the right word for it...
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Like fiberd asphalt sealer the fibers innertwine together
While its still hot or warm .
Nice video. I got 40 acres in the Great Basin that I like to do wildyness things at. Question for you about the fat/grease: Is there any plant-based ingredient that could be used? For instance, if I was dropped into the wild and needed to make this from scratch, I wouldn't be able to kill the bear for the grease prior to making the bear killing weapon. I know it's kind of ridiculous, but I'm more or less just wondering if something like pine nut butter (since pinions are common in the Basin) would work for making it less brittle?
Beeswax is a pretty good alternative in my experience.
You can use dry deer drops also instead of charred yucca cordage.
Can you use regular candle wax or kitchen oil instead of animal fat?
can hemp rope be used, and lard?
Wow, this is incredible! My head is firing up with ideas! Do you think the glue would make a good coating for the clay pots to store your fat in? Make it seal so it doesn't seep out, or attract ants, or rodents? Also could you use just the resin and pour it thin on a flat rock and use it like a window? It seems it would make a nice honey color, and be brittle, but I wonder if you could get it off the rock after if you were real careful. Also small panes would be best, then use to glue to seal them together, or adhere wood strips to make a larger window. Think it would work?
it looks like you are using Osage orange drawknife shavings for your fire, likely from making something like a bow? is that right?
I know this has nothing to do with the pitch glue but your hunting points how thin are they. I would think they would be thicker than most knapper try to do because they are not for show they are for hunting. And most artifacts I have seen are way more thicker than what is done today. Thanks for all you knowledge you share with us.
I hope to see you one day and gain your wisdom sometime along the journey of Valhalla
There wouw,amazing pitch
I love your channel bro
Awesome video. Have you though about doing a primative pottery video?
How well does this type of glue hold up to water, and being submerged?
It's water proof mate.
Would be nice to see you get the pine nuggets from original sources. And ... can one simply heat up pine and drip it out?
badass. definitely gonna use this.
Can you also cast this resin in an arrowhead form and use it instead of obsidian arrowheads? Could you try and test these arrowheads? I think it would be easier than shaping the obsidian into a good arrowhead.
Thank you
Have you ever tried mixing hide glue instead of animal fat? Or just adding the hide glue to this mix?
I've tried and they do not mix at all in my experience, also the hide glue tends to caramelize (for lack of a better word) at higher temperatures and just clumps together forming nothing to brag about.
Which trees have hard pitch? is that the white pine? Or the red pine (Norway) & what state are you in to give a geophysical area which trees you collect from?
Maybe Longleaf Pine in his area.
Slash pine
Any conifer with enough of the stuff to collect and boil off the volatiles.
Ok,....go into detail about what trees have pine sap,... I'm not finding any even when I ding trees.
Next question have you tried charring deer and rabbit dung?
I always felt that since I don't find any measurable amounts of Sap from spruce and white pine that I'd have to do pine wood like you do burch bark,....in a can in a hot fire,....then I'd get both charcoal and Pine tar.
How did you fire your pottery? Would be a cool video
What's this about beeswax and only African bees? Explain, please?