TTJ: CerberusArms v Crim v Xell v Blackneto | MTG Commander Gameplay episode 17

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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Комментарии • 222

  • @DSP1927
    @DSP1927 2 года назад +58

    Just for reference (and it may have made a difference) - the DAMAGE is what's rounded down from Heartless Hidetsugu, not the remaining life total...if you're at 41 life, you'd take 20 damage, going to 21.

    • @AtticsTV
      @AtticsTV 2 года назад +4

      Yup. The best way to remember it, is that its designed to never be able to kill anybody with the effect unless you have outside effects like a Dictate

    • @zombiefiedchris
      @zombiefiedchris 2 года назад +1

      Ok, thank you for pointing this out.

    • @godsiresfollower7987
      @godsiresfollower7987 2 года назад +7

      also he was attacked by a 5/5 did not block, activated that but never took the 5 damage prior or after the ''half lost''so 37 should went to either 16 (take 5 then cut in half) or 14 (cut in half then take 5)

    • @zombiefiedchris
      @zombiefiedchris 2 года назад +3

      I was itching everytime they halved themselves lol.

    • @pantherhaste4554
      @pantherhaste4554 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I just watched him ask "is it rounded down?" and get told yes, then go from 15 to 7... which is incorrect. Feeling bad for these guys for taking extra damage 😢

  • @Albondi
    @Albondi 2 года назад +76

    On gatherer for Rings of Brighthearth it says "You can't pay 2 more than once for each time the triggered ability of Rings of Brighthearth resolves." So I think it was a mistake, great video nevertheless.

    • @XellClips
      @XellClips 2 года назад +13

      oh no you're right! im realizing the shorikai would have to be able to reactivate in order for the rings to copy it again so im bad at magic the gathering. ty for that!

    • @rodrigoavila4133
      @rodrigoavila4133 2 года назад +1

      it also takes two mana to start the infinte colorless mana loop, you dont just get it when you resolve those two artifacts. which would leave them with a single blue and a treasure? i couldnt tell how many treasures were left at that point.

    • @isaacsmith3998
      @isaacsmith3998 2 года назад +5

      I was thinking that! The card says "when you play an activated ability", so rings is a triggered ability and cannot be used as an infinite mana sink. I think the table was also kind of skeptical but wanted the game to be over at that point.

    • @XellClips
      @XellClips 2 года назад +3

      @@isaacsmith3998 Yeah honestly I was just trying to wrap things up asap since I just cyc rifted and im in a dominant spot anyways
      oh well it be like that sometimes

    • @RazorbladeDog
      @RazorbladeDog 2 года назад

      I mean the game had to wrap up eventually, at least you got to argue one last time.

  • @marcthemerc23
    @marcthemerc23 2 года назад +56

    Just got both kids to bed, and instantly get a new Tabletop Jocks. Looks like its magic time for Dad!

  • @TheCoyote808
    @TheCoyote808 Год назад +2

    Just watched this video, and every time I watch an episode of tabletop jocks the pods remind me of Saturday night magic back home. You guys are the awesome! Keep up the good work.

  • @XellClips
    @XellClips 2 года назад +8

    Thanks for having me on!
    Meekstone MVP >:D

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  2 года назад +1

      Omg that meekstone put in WORK!!! Always lovely to have you!!! 🥳🥳🥳

    • @TheOGLionQueen
      @TheOGLionQueen 2 года назад

      I do believe he couldn't have cast the cyclonic rift, with void winnower out. The CMC of the card is even, the eldrazi sees the CMC not the alternate casting cost. It wouldn't have been able to be played/cast at all.

  • @ssmmeeaarrggllee
    @ssmmeeaarrggllee 2 года назад +27

    on the first turn D tapped Hidetsugu, he got hit by Trelasarra but y'all forgot to count it lol

    • @Zachem72
      @Zachem72 2 года назад +3

      Came here to say that. Well spotted.

  • @dilandoesitbetter9026
    @dilandoesitbetter9026 2 года назад +17

    Joe you have put together one of the best magic channels and always have the best guests. Not to mention you as a host just makes the show legendary 🤙🤙👏

  • @SirRanSax
    @SirRanSax 2 года назад +15

    I see Crim, I smash the like button!! Lol

  • @professortoketcg
    @professortoketcg 2 года назад +8

    Joe I just wanna say as a black content creator myself you’re really the inspiration man….keep winning my dude…

  • @Draylock1287
    @Draylock1287 2 года назад +10

    Always a good day when I have new Tabletop Jocks, and Crim is in this vid truly a great day.

  • @Lava_Spike
    @Lava_Spike 2 года назад +7

    There were some definitely troll plays from this lineup but it was hella fun to watch! I was wondering when this episode was coming out and I'm glad to have caught it!

  • @chrisyourfriend59
    @chrisyourfriend59 2 года назад +5

    This is one of the best episodes, in my opinion. this group is awesome lol.

  • @GOOMBAHx
    @GOOMBAHx 2 года назад +1

    I appreciate the judge pause. This happens in my play group all the time. And making it known is very help

    • @TheOGLionQueen
      @TheOGLionQueen 2 года назад +1

      I do believe he couldn't have cast the cyclonic rift, with void winnower out. The MCM of the card is even, the eldrazi sees the MCM not the alternate casting cost. It wouldn't have been able to be played/cast at all.

  • @rieanonorati66
    @rieanonorati66 2 года назад +3

    For future reference......when a spell is copied it is copied EXACTLY, meaning you get an exact copy of the spell that was cast, which includes bonus effects such as kicker, overload, "X" costs etc. and all targets for that copied spell. The only way to change the targets of the copy is for the text of the copying effect to state "you may choose new targets..."

  • @kevinamielismael1680
    @kevinamielismael1680 2 года назад +4

    24:43 you could use pir's first ability to shuffle SDT to it's owner's library. it says "target player search for its partner" he's forced to look and shuffle his library

  • @alexgutierrez5073
    @alexgutierrez5073 2 года назад +4

    Trelasarra is super underrated, so glad to see her kicking some butt! Great episode as always 💯 Joe if you need a 3rd flyer in there, go with Wall of Reverence, it’s a great blocker and I’ve gained so much life from it

  • @Rezzik
    @Rezzik 2 года назад +2

    I love multiple games in one episode, thanks Joe.

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  2 года назад +2

      Of course! The first game was so quick we had to run it back!

  • @mitchelljudson9237
    @mitchelljudson9237 2 года назад +7

    Crim is literally me "I didn't test this deck so we're all gonna find out the power level together"

  • @Whiskyandrock
    @Whiskyandrock 2 года назад +5

    The copied Cyclonic rift plus the regular rift should've made everyone return everything to their hands because all of Josh's opponents return everything and then the copy returns all of permanents except for Crim's to their owners hands so it should've been a completely neutral board

    • @the8bitninja218
      @the8bitninja218 Год назад +2

      The copy was never made, because the cost on Wandering Archaic was paid.

  • @crawdaddy2004
    @crawdaddy2004 2 года назад +2

    The Nitpicking Nerds, in their casual games, have a house rule that each player scries for how many people go before them (I.e., first player doesn’t scry, second player scries 1, third scries 2 and fourth scries 3).

  • @jonsol8471
    @jonsol8471 2 года назад +2

    Great episode!! 2 games!! Thanks!

  • @FlynnApollo
    @FlynnApollo 2 года назад +2

    I personally wouldn’t advance the turns until the tutor is complete. It gives them insight to see what they should get based on the 3 turns it took to tutor.

  • @helloiamjt
    @helloiamjt 2 года назад +1

    D blood mooning himself, what a god

  • @TheDinkelist
    @TheDinkelist 2 года назад +1

    Happy we delivered on the SOUL RING!

  • @BrodyTwice
    @BrodyTwice 2 года назад +4

    Love the channel Joe!! After all that toxic drama I'm happy you emerged the hero!

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  2 года назад +3

      Thank you for the love! Happy to have my friends here and having a blast!

  • @weswilson9062
    @weswilson9062 Год назад +3

    absolutely love the channel! always excited to see new content! keep it up guys! mtg for life!

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  Год назад

      Appreciate the love! We’ve got plenty in store!

  • @jakecallen9164
    @jakecallen9164 Год назад +1

    1:11:15 D could've also equipped Blade of Selves to the dockside to get a metric assload of treasures. Doesn't matter since Xell cyc rifted but it was an option too.

  • @DMorfin11
    @DMorfin11 2 года назад +2

    I clicked as soon as I saw Xell in the thumbnail. gonna be a good game

  • @reedpadgett9056
    @reedpadgett9056 2 года назад +2

    This is the type of magic I always strive to play! Love ya Joe! Hope to play with you one day

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  2 года назад

      Thanks for the love Reed! Definitely I’m down! Hop in our discord anytime if you’d like! www.patreon.com/tabletopjocks

  • @dojodean
    @dojodean 2 года назад +1

    Great game! Great folks! Thank you!

  • @tarekt8427
    @tarekt8427 2 года назад +5

    sloppy game in many spots. However, this was still an awesome pod + game. lots of fun. what an edh game should flow like. all 4 decks hit scary highs. ...........Crim pretending in 2nd game he was weak but his board before the Cyclonic rift was about to pop off in a serious way.

    • @tlwilson32
      @tlwilson32 2 года назад +1

      So sloppy... felt like it was first time some of them had seen the cards before.

  • @benjaminkaye5119
    @benjaminkaye5119 2 года назад +3

    Trelassara was attacking and never dealt its combat damage that first attack. Crazy game

  • @SnapquesterMage
    @SnapquesterMage 2 года назад +1

    I'll have to use that one! "Negotiation is on the stack" 😅😂👍

  • @miceinattic
    @miceinattic 2 года назад +1

    Such another great video!! Love a double game video! And love the authentic feel of the games. If you know you have no chance at winning. Go out swinging to the person who spited you first. Lol.

  • @Qroe
    @Qroe 2 года назад +3

    Possibly the funniest Op Agent in history.

  • @rieanonorati66
    @rieanonorati66 2 года назад +7

    Also, since Crim copied the Cyclonic Rift, Xell should have bounced his nonland permanents as well, followed by Crim bouncing his for Xell's Rift.

    • @shawnmciff1513
      @shawnmciff1513 Год назад +2

      once it was determined the overload would copy, he just paid the two... he had a million treasure anyway

  • @TheDwiest
    @TheDwiest 2 года назад +2

    Yooooo Joe! Thanks for the Friday content.

  • @craigjewell4720
    @craigjewell4720 2 года назад +8

    When the first game's turn 3 came along, I was wondering how you managed to milk over an hour out of this episode XD

  • @screebb
    @screebb 2 года назад +1

    This rakdos may be my new favorite deck

  • @DocB_83
    @DocB_83 2 года назад +6

    10 min in and Rakdos has everyone’s life near single digits…. I feel like this may be a multiple game video. At this rate maybe 3-4!

  • @JulieGeorgeComedy
    @JulieGeorgeComedy 2 года назад +2

    such a great group of dudes! love this episode

  • @joehenderson1
    @joehenderson1 2 года назад +1

    I always look forward to your content- keep up the great work Joe!!!

  • @chrisgoodhind1821
    @chrisgoodhind1821 2 года назад +1

    Best guests! So much fun! Laughter all around

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  2 года назад

      Glad you had fun!!! ☺️☺️☺️

  • @cmich7979
    @cmich7979 2 года назад +2

    Greatest Pod

  • @3N3MYKN1GHT
    @3N3MYKN1GHT 2 года назад

    Oh my God I know 3 people for once and I'm not pleasantly surprised by new episodes and new people to follow!
    Mtggoldfish's very own crimbo
    Xell, I saw him doing a bunch of broadcast stuff for League of legends also ALLCHAT and of course your boi the tabletop jock.

  • @benjaminkaye5119
    @benjaminkaye5119 2 года назад

    After drawing your deck , shorikai would have been tapped. But I am sure there was something in his entire deck hand lol. Keep up the great graphics and fun banter.

  • @brewersmagic2011
    @brewersmagic2011 2 года назад +1

    Another absolutely killer episode Joe!!!!

  • @derboy995
    @derboy995 2 года назад +1

    Wild animations & a banger video as always 🤙

  • @MarvelOfRain
    @MarvelOfRain Год назад +1

    39:50 Nothing says Commander like: "I tap my Savannah to cast Fountain of Renewal"

  • @commandergamer3337
    @commandergamer3337 2 года назад

    Joe, your response to heartless hidetsugu was hilarious!

  • @Ricky.Pestana
    @Ricky.Pestana 2 года назад +1

    Love the shirt!! Gotta love ROCK LEE!

  • @lightyagami284
    @lightyagami284 2 года назад +1

    Man that's crazy I just realized I'm not subscribed to this channel I clearly forgot to choose violence when watching great content

  • @shottybeatssword
    @shottybeatssword 2 года назад +1

    The best Magic channel atm. No fancy animations or techno music

  • @robbiestevens1208
    @robbiestevens1208 2 года назад

    I have a rakdos deck and I love it when it goes off just gets nasty real quick!

  • @watchdominion00
    @watchdominion00 2 года назад

    Y’all cant round down 😅 great episode, spoiling us with two games!

  • @billiumdollars
    @billiumdollars 2 года назад +1

    Triangle of Frieeeeendship!!!!

  • @joshuahenry2138
    @joshuahenry2138 2 года назад +3

    Yall been crushing these episodes. Love the edit and the guests. I'm hoping to see lynch on one day. I loved you together lol

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  2 года назад +4

      Thanks for the love and the support on the channel! That won’t happen. I’m here now. Been away from that other channel since October of last year! Having too much fun with my friends here!
      ruclips.net/video/togca5xdXHw/видео.html
      articles.starcitygames.com/magic-the-gathering/multiple-sponsors-affiliates-drop-i-hate-your-deck-over-abuse-allegations-against-channels-creator/

    • @brettdawson7236
      @brettdawson7236 2 года назад +1

      @@TabletopJocks what a slam dunk response "nah that ain't gonna happen. i like my friends. *drops link*" I love and respect Joe's move on that and I'm glad magic community can leave dude in the past.

    • @ArtEPersonal
      @ArtEPersonal 2 года назад +2

      @@brettdawson7236 there are other great creators besides joe as well, we don't need one that doesn't have values.

    • @brettdawson7236
      @brettdawson7236 2 года назад +1

      @@ArtEPersonal you're so right! the mtg community especially on RUclips is so great we don't miss one creep leaving

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 2 года назад +1

    11/10/2020You can't pay  more than once for each time the triggered ability of Rings of Brighthearth resolves.

  • @didupaytheone2678
    @didupaytheone2678 2 года назад

    Game two crim got that fast start, are we dead guys, these effects are great, city of ass killed me 😆

  • @TopMuffin7
    @TopMuffin7 2 года назад +5

    When Joe played heliod's intervention and wandering archaic copied it Crim should have gotten another copy due to twinning staff

    • @mibbzx1493
      @mibbzx1493 2 года назад

      Yup and i would’ve targeted blind obedience because that in combination with meekstone is nasty

  • @tomchandler2851
    @tomchandler2851 Год назад +1

    Joe I don't know if you edit these or not but whoever is, know that I appreciate you

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  Год назад

      I don’t but I will pass this along! Thank you for the kind words ☺️🫶🏾

  • @scoobg21
    @scoobg21 2 года назад

    Love the BushyBrow shirt 🔥

  • @moipaz2290
    @moipaz2290 2 года назад

    As a long-standing colts fan, I am offended that you pictured Manning in his traitor jersey.

  • @hiddenleaf414
    @hiddenleaf414 2 года назад +1

    Love the representation in this episode!

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  2 года назад

      That’s what we do on this channel! We’re here to show all walks of life and representation!

  • @jovaneytoledo9569
    @jovaneytoledo9569 2 года назад +2

    Game 1: Joe attacked with 5 power and the hidetsugu was activated. Should that have been half the life - 5 so 13 instead of 18? Did I miss something?

  • @unnecessarybasscovers9711
    @unnecessarybasscovers9711 2 года назад +1

    Loved these games a lot
    Irks me a little how salty Dee gets at azorius after dominating in the first game. Like, just because you managed to play 4 eldrazi, the table doesnt need to let you swing with them, you gotta respect the stax

  • @TheBrothering
    @TheBrothering 2 года назад

    Joe and I have the same sentiment towards smothering tithe..never paying for that crap, you can have the treasure 🤣

    • @mibbzx1493
      @mibbzx1493 2 года назад

      And that was everyone’s downfall, pay your damn taxes! got hit by an infinite tsukiyomi and milled to death 🤣 dont fall for the bait

  • @Karl_Hungus_Nihilist
    @Karl_Hungus_Nihilist 2 года назад +2

    Crim is my favorite content creator, so this was an auto like!

  • @creolekolbytv1252
    @creolekolbytv1252 2 года назад

    The red dragon in house of dragons I like to think is a Hellkite

  • @timwright3218
    @timwright3218 2 года назад

    Get that coffee money. Absolutely perfect edh synergy.

  • @starry-dazed
    @starry-dazed 2 года назад

    Bonus game!

  • @andrewschwab921
    @andrewschwab921 2 года назад +3

    Did Joe not resolve damage from his first moon dancer swing? Like I know he tapped the thing to make everyone lose half their life but like he still swung and D never blocked

    • @Cerberusarms
      @Cerberusarms 2 года назад

      Yeah I took 1 damage for Moon Dancer’s first swing

    • @Cerberusarms
      @Cerberusarms 2 года назад +1

      @@ArtEPersonal you’re right cause it’s a 2/2 with a counter due to essence warden. Mistakes were made, there’s a lot to keep track of and this was the second time I’d played my Rakdos deck which I think shows

    • @ArtEPersonal
      @ArtEPersonal 2 года назад +1

      @@Cerberusarms definitely not faulting :) it was fun to watch.... Always choose violence

  • @rara2ra2yrra3racjj2
    @rara2ra2yrra3racjj2 2 года назад +1

    They call him "D", but after that first game, I'm inclined to call him "The".

  • @aurabullet4128
    @aurabullet4128 2 года назад

    That last turn of the Second game was an absolute mess of bad sequencing but still fun to watch none the less. Lol

  • @paperkid8865
    @paperkid8865 2 года назад +1

    Great Games!

  • @Zupiter8
    @Zupiter8 10 месяцев назад

    D is the hypest magic player in the game

  • @christopherarrowsmith7540
    @christopherarrowsmith7540 2 года назад

    Mana crypt is not a problem. It’s not a problem guys. Not a problem.

  • @GOOMBAHx
    @GOOMBAHx 2 года назад

    Hey it’s me again… saying you have the best god damn intro music of alll time. Still waiting on my ringtone homie!!

  • @pantherhaste4554
    @pantherhaste4554 2 года назад +1

    shoutouts to Josh lee kwai

  • @benjaminkaye5119
    @benjaminkaye5119 2 года назад +1

    Game 2 , twinning staff would have made a third heliods. Holy crap ! A lot of copying and great second game.

  • @liddantheone
    @liddantheone 2 года назад

    Rings triggers once so you can pay 2 or don't pay 2 only once. Good games though!

  • @IamJoshEast
    @IamJoshEast 2 года назад

    Xell? That boi look and sound like my guy Josh Kim. The OG

  • @tophimos
    @tophimos 2 года назад

    "Oh did you guys pay for Smothering Tithe?"
    "NOOO!"

  • @ExZi-Rin
    @ExZi-Rin 2 года назад

    I need that things to do checklist as a poster 🤙

  • @Shadowof1ife
    @Shadowof1ife 2 года назад

    Green white life gain deck is good one to build around

  • @wanny225
    @wanny225 2 года назад +1

    Rings of Brighthearth only triggers once so you can't keep copying the ability...

  • @thetruth4654
    @thetruth4654 Год назад

    Ain`t no mountain high enough

  • @mikeknightofdawn
    @mikeknightofdawn 2 года назад

    Where did the myriad trigger go after the cyclonic rift? He should have still gotten 2 tokens attacking after and etb triggers.

  • @obicortes8199
    @obicortes8199 2 года назад

    As Tovolar player I just wanted to let know that he first made it night he was mistake because Xell had cast Mana Crypt. Although it wouldn't really make a difference since Dee didn't cast anything his next turn just wanted to let you know.

  • @BootyNBeer
    @BootyNBeer Год назад

    Cyclonic would double because it “replaces” card text. Everyone returns to their hand

  • @ScrapsandSlaps
    @ScrapsandSlaps Год назад

    1:17:11 should the rings and monolith produce infinite mana? I thought you can’t copy mana abilities with the rings?

  • @angelaguiluz7889
    @angelaguiluz7889 7 месяцев назад

    Im watching this in 2024. I had a game where I cast cyclonic rift 3 times and can confirm, people hate me for it!

  • @didupaytheone2678
    @didupaytheone2678 2 года назад

    GG everyone. D had the game from the start? Got the God hand had to keep?

  • @DavidLopez-dn5nm
    @DavidLopez-dn5nm 2 года назад

    you guys gotta clip that double head nod / grab at 01:02:18

    • @TabletopJocks
      @TabletopJocks  2 года назад

      You can’t clip RUclips videos once they’ve been uploaded unless I’m missing something

  • @Snskch3
    @Snskch3 2 года назад

    I play with trelasarra. Deck is so much fun and it’s pretty darn strong.

  • @copiu5
    @copiu5 2 года назад +1

    I feel how D went off then forget how to play the deck.
    Firebreathe the hellkite.. nah, just kill the signet
    Or just swing 5 at Joe and kill his 2 drops
    Oh well

  • @Mordain_Thade
    @Mordain_Thade Год назад

    Came looking for a Rakdos game, was not disappointed. Well, a little disappointed because of D seemingly not knowing how his cards work, but that's minor compared to what's next.
    But holy crap, game 2, Rings of Brighthearth does NOT work like that. Rings will see an activated ability go on the stack, and trigger ONCE saying "hey, wanna pay 2 to copy that?" - it does not let you copy an activated ability an arbitrary amount of times as long as you can pay 2. Rings + Basalt is fine (you copy the untap ability, then tap the Monolith in between untaps; this nets 1 colorless mana each iteration). Rings + Shorikai = draw 2 discard 1 make a pilot, and then do it again.
    Other than Crim missing at least two Twinning Staff + Archmage triggers (on the Dark Ritual + Archaic, and Heliod's Intervention + Archaic) and the hubbub over the copied Rift (honestly that whole interaction seemed a little sus), not a bad watch. Tighten up that technical play, and I may be back for more!

  • @philiptrogers
    @philiptrogers 2 года назад

    Game 1 - 2x takesies backsies Joe!

  • @charlesreese1546
    @charlesreese1546 2 года назад

    Great first game D

  • @AlexDuWaldt
    @AlexDuWaldt Год назад

    Crazy huge dopamine release seeing Dee get hurt by his own Blood Moon. XD card's dumb.