Why is no one talking about the fact that they took out the ability to throw weapons? To me that was one of my favorite abilities in the original and it made the combat feel way more gruesome
That's pretty much the only thing I didn't like about 2, second to them making the recycling of Old Town Harran's buildings so obvious and third to the night not being scary anymore.
i wanted to love this game but i get extremely bored every time i hop on. i absolutely loved dying light 1, and this game SEEMS better, but everything about the game just feels forgettable
idk bro, i was a huge fan of DL1, had atleast 200 hours played in total, and i was very skeptical about DL2. but i absolutely loved this game and i like it even more than the 1st one, give it a few more time if you've played under 10 hours, it only gets better as you play
This is the most relatable comment I've seen on Dying Light 2. The game is much better in theory than it is in practice. I barely got through the story, and when I did I left the game almost instantly, and unlike the first game I don't feel like coming back for at least a few years.
I think the story went downhill after the directors and employees at techland started to leave, in the 2019 trailer Aiden mentioned his father and the story seem a lot different. If Chris avellon had stayed I think the story could have been a lot better
It's all because I the B I T C H that made those allegations. If not for her we would've had a banger story. The allegations we're never proved true anyway
People still remember about that, I’m glad I’m not the only one, told all my friends but they still thought it was just going to be the same like the first one.
I really don't care much for a story, I just want a fantastic multiplayer experience with a Night Hunter Invasion option and gameplay free of bugs. Techland failed on both fronts.
The thing about GRE quarantines is that they're all copy pasted and share the exact same experience, there was no twist or turn that catches you off guard. They get extremely repetitive and boring to do.
Yeah I was extremely disappointed about that. After doing 3 or 4 I never did another one. It's the exact same gameplay. A lot of copy paste overall. Most of the building offices are the same as well. I wanted to explore but it's just the same building over and over again.
The quarantine zones in DL1 were my favorite places due to their fascinating lore and chilling atmosphere. The ones in 2 just felt like I was playing one of those gunslinger arcade shooters that takes place in a haunted house lol.
They had a whole gameplay video where Aiden snuck into the colonel’s fortress and chose to divert the water elsewhere and because of that choice it opened up a whole area that was underwater. That blew my mind. I haven’t been able to figure out if it’s even still a thing.
That gameplay video is still in the final game, it's the second to last mission and the first half of the epilogue mission. You can choose to divert the water and open the underwater area, but it just opens up that part for exploration and there really isn't a consequence for doing it or not
I liked kyle more than aidan, to me kyle was just more enjoyable overall, he slowly got attached to the other survivors like us (the clearest to me is when when rahim dies). Aidan i did not really care fore, I despise the survivors of old villedore and only love some in the central, the only ones I felt attached to were hakon, frank, aitor, and rowe
I think that Aiden was a bit better when it comes to backstory but Aiden just acts like an a-hole later on, especially if you give the VNC tower to Frank and he just yells at him the next morning
Aiden is one of the biggest dumbasses in the game protagonist history, imo. Keeps getting beaten by enemies constantly to end the ongoing cutscene, keeps talking over everything, and when Waltz turns on the power with the key (something Aiden literally saw happen in front of him), he is absolutely flabbergasted as to how and why the power in the city has been turned on and does after a short while suspect that it might be Waltz who is behind that.
The story wasn’t what I was expecting, but I still liked it and the characters presented. It was like someone offering you a hot dog but when you say yes they give you a hamburger. It’s like OH OK not what I was expecting but HEY STILL TASTES GOOD. 🙂
@@toy5965 Yea. No clue who prefers a hotdog over a hamburger. So many more flavors in a hamburger than just a blend of different meats in a long bun with condiments.
I did like some choices. Like the little girl's music box going into your valuables instead of quest items and you getting heartbroken when you realize you sold it and don't remember which merchant you sold it to.
@@mksmike Does it not get sold when you press C to sell all valuables? Because if pressing C to sell all valuables also sells that item, then that is terrible game design. Sure, I could go and store it in my chest if that is what happens, but most people won't even realize that the item got stored in their valuables instead of as a sellable quest item.
Yh it was disappointing 1. The world looked so much better in the trailers and it was pretty boring and lacking. 2. The story was decent but it weren’t anything special 3. Combat with humans was a major improvement but with the infected it just didn’t have that same realistic touch that the first game did. 4. There are an insane amount of bugs and although it’s not game breaking it’s really annoying. 5. I didn’t find it scary like I did with the first game because the night is too light and it’s pretty easy. 6. A lot of the characters are really boring and they didn’t live up to the hype.
Yeah I finished it last week about 80 hours finish story and I although I did like parts of it I sincerely doubt I'm gonna play any of it's dlc or even remember much of it in a week or two.
7. outfits, weapons, throwable items are too overpower. thats why i get bored easily, not too satisfy playing the game. 8. musics are ok except the chase theme. its not scary as the first game theme. 9. also, speaking of the infection timer, i felt like it wasnt important that much in the game when ur lvl 3-4. kinda sad
i agree with most of what you said except 1 and 5. the world is already pretty detailed on release considering they're still adding patches to this day, with the amount of traversal you can do you can spend hours just running around and not get bored at least imo. the night time in dl2 is waaaay scarier than dl1. in dl1's late game you can basically two shot volatiles that i didn't mind going on chases cause i knew i had no chance of dying unless i fell. in dl2 even if you're max level you'd still wanna avoid chase level 3 and 4 cause a single volatile pounce leads to a chain cc that's hard to escape without UV shit
@@cocomartin5130 1-it's just a bunch of bland copy pasted areas with no subtle stories 2-being hard is not the same as being scary, even the volatiles "desings" are downgraded, they look cartoonish and bright 3-you can easily escape a chase if you know what you're doing, what's not the case with you and whoever get's scared while playing this shitty game
@@am1hm1 1 - there's always a main location every 200 meters where there are points of interests. the copy pasted areas are almost negligible if you're actively doing quests. 2 - brighter volatiles compared to dl1? they're pale as your smooth brain, dl1 had bloodied designs on everything. cartoonish isn't necessarily bad as the whole game is a lot cartoonish. 3 - what's the point of triggering a chase level 4 if you're gonna end it right away. dragging it along for the multiplier is the hard part. you clearly don't know how to play the game. of course it's easy when you're playing on piss easy mode. your negative opinions are so generic for such a well received game. keep living in dying light 1 buddy, i'm sure your channel will NOT make it some day
My main gripes with the game is that they changed stuff that didn't need to be changed compared to the first game. -Volatiles dont patrol the streets anymore. -The overwhelming focus on living people instead of making the infected the real threat. -The fact that night time is extremely safe. You have to go out of your way to make is threatening. -Chases dont happen naturally. They come down to Howlers spotting you... even if you kill them before they scream, the chase still happens. I assume because they spot you so the chase happens automatically. -The chase is like a GTA wanted level. You dont get volatiles until chase level 3. Which is dumb. -The enemies that tie into the level system. Instead of new skills allowing you to kill zombies in different ways, you just level up and brute force your way past them. In the first game, you had to rely on your environment a lot at the start. In DL2, you are either very over levelled for old areas or too under levelled for new areas which gives the game an artificial barrier. Its not to make it difficult, it is to block the play from exploring where they want to without instantly dying. Also, shooting someone in the head and them either not instantly dying... especially them taking little damage is stupid. So stealth is basically pointless in this game. -NO WEAPON CRAFTING - This was a massive sin. You had to buy weapons instead of scavenging parts and creating new stuff.
It might just be me, but I totally disagree about the soundtrack. The darkish synth made DL1 much more scary and mysterious, whereas I felt the soundtrack in DL2 was always really uplifting and joyful. An example is the VNC tower mission in DL2 and the DL1 mission, where you climb the antenna tower, to save the city from being firebombed. The missions are pretty much identical and are both supposed to be these near-impossible tasks, but in DL2 the music suddenly gets super uplifting and cheerful, completely forgetting that Aiden was just screaming for help over the radio. It really didn't seem to fit the situation in my opinion.
For what it is, I adore dying light 2's soundtrack. Especially that dynamic ability it has. It wasn't what I was hoping for in the game though. Thematically I liked dying light 1's music more, disregarding the world around it I like dying light 2s music more
I didn’t like the story much. Lawan and Aidens relationship felt forced to me. I ended up wondering why they “care” so much about eachother. I also didn’t like that the game rewards you for forgiving certain characters for turning on you, the only character I really liked was Aitor to be honest.
I pretty much agree with almost everything you said except the stealth part. because Stealth is USELESS (they could've done it in a way where a story consequence happens or you'll get a different ending if you fail a stealth segment) You probably forgot to add the difficulty talking point. but my opinion there is that its TOO EASY. idk if techland is trying to be TOO accessible but they gave us a choice to make it hard. so why isnt it hard? Anyway, playing this immediately on hard blind, I thought it would be as hard as DL1 at night but the only thing that's hard in DL2 is when a group of volatiles are fighting you at the SAME TIME. Plus this game has a lot of OP stuff in it. The crossbow and the maxxed out UV flashlight for example. if you have lets say a crossbow though, it makes fighting a group of volatiles TOO easy now. Plus if you have the maxxed out UV flashlight you can melee the volatiles one on one. And since the Volatiles are the only challenge this game offers, it just disappoints me how its gotten too easy. This also is added to the fact that the AI is really stupid at times. You can exploit the UV flashlight zones during Chases at nights and just Farm the Virals and Volatiles while using the UV flashlight zones as cover and as a way to repeat the chase. Volatiles start appearing at Chase 3 and 4. So if you just want to farm trophies like Uncommons or Rares, just exploit the AI and use the Howlers to restart the chase. Kill zombies until Chase 2 ends then go to the UV zone to restart the chase. go to a howler. and repeat. Also you forgot to mention that dying in this game is not a problem at all. you dont lose anything. you dont lose progress. some can use it as a way to switch from day or night. or to teleport to safezone.
Edit: On another note. Multiplayer is kind of pointless. The only thing you can do in an online session is play around in the map and do some time trials. But there's only so much you can do before it gets boring. Also, who in their right mind would play the story in coop?
I think the stealth part did matter during the mission where you infiltrated the renegade base in a car. I did full stealth and got to the colonel by myself. But others did it guns blazing and Lawan interfered in the hallway. This is still on one example though, which still makes your point valid.
As a longtime Romero fan (Day of the dead above anything) I found in DL1 perfection as a zombie game. Amazing gameplay, great level design, the world is breathing and every corner tells you a story of things gone wrong. 80s style arpeggiated synths and incredible sound design enhance the atmosphere even further. Story it's not ground breaking but I found it quite enjoyable, like a "cheap comic book style story that it's really entertaining". Now I played DL2 and I don't really like it. Why? Gameplay it's even better, funny as hell, graphics are amazing (raytraced lighting it's gorgeous) sound design is top notch. So why I don't like it like DL1? Atmosphere. While some locations on the map are very good and inspired, I find DL2 world sort of "bland, cliched post apocaliptic generic world" in total contrast with the charismatic, exotic, windy Harran. Story is maybe more complex but less engaging, and music... Well some track are ok I guess but nothing sticks in my head as "incredibly cool".
I give the game a 7 out of 10, but I give your review probably a 4 or 5 out of 10. 1. Sure, the game is beautiful. Especially the sunrises and sets. However, it all looks the same. Aside from the obvious difference between Old Vil and Central, the only stand out parts of the cities would be the Dam. That's it. That's basically how the game breaks down: Old Vil, Central, and the Dam. I can't tell you of a single memorable section of Central nor Old Vil. Especially because this game is basically 90% rooftops. In the first game you had the Cauldron, the Bridge, the Beach (tbf part of bridge), the Hills near the bridge area, Gazi's area, several sections of slums, Trainyard, several highway sections, and more. Maybe the reason these each feel unique is because you are forced to traverse THROUGH them rather than simply...gliding over them. Once I got the paraglider it simply became a game of flying from one special location to another. They didn't do enough to diversify the town. 2. Speaking on things being too similar, GRE hospitals, special encounters, and the shop "dungeons" are basically all the same. Hardly any memorable diversity. GRE almost got it, but it's always the same loop. 4 floors, and every floor has the same look. The only different one is the very first one you enter with Hakon where it is legitimately dark and unique. In the first game you had quarantine zones, but they each were a unique scenario and setup. A zombie flooded cargo warehouse, a grocery store with electrified water, a smoke filled apartment, etc. 3. Stealth is only somewhat mandatory if you are too low level for the place. Renegade hideouts really posed ko problem. Especially with drop-kicking off buildings. The stealth worked fine, really. 4. Yea, the weapons and mods in this are junk. I honestly just slapped on Fling, Damage, and Flame on all my weapons based on critical hit. Not to mention the crappy repair system that forces you to use a weapon without a mod until it loses 50 durability, then with only one mod till it loses another 50, etc. All because it only HEALS 50 instead of adds to max too. Maybe a bug. Idk. 5. Paraglider having stamina makes sense, and upgrading it makes it last longer. There are also air streams you can enter to regain stamina and gain a speed boost. 6. You missed the chance to get the better version of a bow: The crossbow. This thing does a stupid amount of damage and can fire incredibly fast (must reload, but is fairly quick). Can basically 3-4 shot volatiles. 7. Night would have been way more improved if there were volatiles walking around the streets and even rooftops like in the first game. This even makes sense per the narrative, because they leave the "dungeons" at night. So if they aren't down there and aren't on the streets, where the f*ck did they go? A bar or something? There is also no real incentive to hit the streets, be it day or night time.
Fully agree, I also felt like his review had some major oversights. IMO, the most troublesome being that, like you mentioned, all the GRE hospitals, dark zones, GRE monsters, etc. are all copy/pasted. If you hadn't played the game and watched this review, you'd think they were all fairly diverse. He also didn't mention how the paraglider invalidates the best part of the game, the parkour. The upgraded glider (which is stupid easy to obtain) is faster than running, and way way faster than climbing. I think they could fix this by getting rid of the "sprint" option while gliding so that it's impossible to gain height without hitting a vent or airflow. I think they should also cut down on the number of vents.
Amen to that first point. Drop me off in Harran without a map - and I'll quickly get my bearings and figure out where I need to go. Drop me off in Villedor - and I will have absolutely no idea where the hell I am or where anything is. Granted, Villedor is much larger, and I've played DL2 a lot less than DL1 - but even so, the neighbourhoods don't really feel distinct, bar a couple of landmarks.
I agree, I was expecting a similar feel to Dying Light and the ambience too. I didnt need it to look hyper realistic but I miss the feel of the first one. I know it will be advanced but my expectations were sadly let down. I expected better volatiles, virals, zombies and the ambience. If the fall happened 15 years before, the streets shouldn't be that barren. I got attached to Hakon and Lawan ofc but I missed the previous scary vibes
Everything you wrote is true, excpecially part about similarity of gre zones and other world activities. This is so dumb, why the f they thought it was a good idea to put very similar abandoned shops with crappy loot around every corner, I am so dissapointed when I travell through the city, see a question mark on the map and when I identify It it's the freaking store with useless loot that I can buy from vendors
@@Subllama yea that was the biggest thing for me. I expected "Dying Light: 2", not "Dying Light: The Aftermath". Would've been more accurate title tbh, and wouldn't have gotten my hopes up so high with such a meh title. I wanna rant so hard on how they could've just.. made it the first game but with more content and a new story instead of removing all the parts I loved the most about the game. Like the tight platforming that was executed well and pushed to limits with bozak horde, the more overpowered and goofy skills in the tree like stunned takedowns and camouflage that made you FEEL that you made progress and became a zombie slaying gigachad.
16:50 but what if the charm of the original game is that it wasn’t “video game-y” I liked how more realistic it felt. The world felt more real because of it. It felt less like a mechanically obvious jungle gym
I didn’t really like the upgrading system where you have to get the infected trophies. If there was a skill that made it so you picked up more infected trophies then that’d be great, even if it was just double the trophies
In my opinion I think some massive shit went down behind the scenes that flipped development on it's head, could explain why the sequence were you plead to the renagedes for water access was rewritten in a rather slapdash way to be the final mission
I thought I was the only one that noticed that there was clear rewrites regarding that when discussing with my friends about this game. Glad to know I'm not crazy.
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe it's clear we got cyberpunked again just not as bad. They needed more time and released it too early due to pressure. I have literally never seen a game this buggy on release, and that includes AC Unity.
Honestly when it comes to night time I prefer my “OH SHIT” moment to come from getting spotted by a volatile not from running out of time and having to run back to a safe house…like wtffff
25:36 dead island 2 had the same mechanic in 2015 when yager was still working on it but instead of doing parkour the soundtrack kept changing depending on how many zombies were following you which was a fucking incredible idea and i loved how there were few different songs like an electric guitar or trumpets that played when you triggered them. i really hope they keep this in the final game since its such a unique feature that i don't think i've seen in any other game
Doom 2016 and the newer one soundtracks work in a similar way, changing up depending on what the player is doing. I don't know of any others that do this, but some most likely will do.
The GRE facilities were really cool, I ended up going to one pretty late into the game and I wanted to level up so I could have an easier time with a side quest I was doing. Well it turns out someone wasn't watching the time because I was suddenly attacked by a whole heap of volatiles and virals when I was half way into the facility. Thankfully I was able to get out but that was the most tense experience I've had since the fetus in RE8
My peak best moment in DL1 is being scared at night trying to survive the fast and hard zombies... That not being in DL2 is the only reason i don't know if i should buy it...
you should definitely buy it but not for full price there is a hard mode which makes the night more scary, combat and parkour is amazing but i would only recommend buying on next gen consoles. i play on series x at 1440p 60fps and have around 120 hours and i loved every minute, if you still haven’t got it i would get it second hand or wait for a sale. hope this helped :)
I agree a lot with what you said about the weapons being lacking, having everything you pick up be so temporary didn't give me the incentive to upgrade it at all. Especially since upgrade parts were so rare. I wish they kept a similar levelling and rarity system to the first, starting with pipes and ending with really durable tools that you wanted to upgrade. The system that made each rarity more durable and upgradable than the last made finding a purple weapon a real boon that you would be using for a while! And when you finally got that bow, it was really something else. Allowing you to take out special infected from range with attracting more. I never liked the guns in dying light or dead island, they always felt rather weightless. Totally necessary for tougher fights but never something I'd use running around Harran. I like the story of dl2 but I think that, in focusing on the narative it lost the fun and sometimes ridiculous parts of dl1. It took itself too seriously to let you get abducted by aliens, build a gun with hookah parts to kill our lizard overlords, or include anyone like Tolga and Fatin. They were annoying but you knew you'd get awesome stuff for working with them, culminating in the button. I really like dl2, I did buy the ultimate edition after all. I know techland love their games and listen to the fans, Which is the best thing you can ask for from game devs.
Just mentioning. This game combines two features from my top favorite games that I recommend. Tomb Raider with climbing & indicators, check out the 3 most recent. Mirror's Edge 1&2 with parkour, including wall running.
Aiden babaiden was the best part of the story for me! Always made me laugh every time! “Aidy!” And my first game file got corrupted so I started a new game but picked different choices and I still feel I could replay with different choices/ side quests.
8:08, You should've thought this through before putting this small part in video, because it does matter to other people, and just because people don't complain about this with a certain game doesn't make this course of action, right. It's a scummy decision that is actively made lie to customers and undermining it is not a good idea, because it encourages companies to use shortcuts like this for rip-off people that buys games and not get more polished games in future.
Also, I totally agree on the Filler dialogue stuff. Sometimes I'd just read the subtitles and skip through the dialogue because I really didn't wanna waste time. Haven't done that in DL1 in most of the times. It's also dissapointing that the Sunken City is just a green reskin of The Old Villedor (It even has the same burger place) It's also totally impossible to loot a Dark Hollow, because the space is so claustrophobic that zombies always notice you, even if you don't have the fleshlight on. Same with the Dark Zones.
Dying light 1 is better in so many ways, the zombie behaviour, the horror at night, the weapons including all the guns, the buggies, The Following Story, all the different blueprints, the higher difficulty settings, the second game just feels like a downgrade. I became so overpowered in the first few hours I felt bad killing the zombies and the paragliding especially when fully upgraded just made the parkour redundant night time gameplay was a dissapointment because there was no volatiles patrolling and the story was so cliche and nonsensical
@@Master-Of-The-Judgment-Nut-End I know your comment is old but yes DL1 story wasnt a masterpiece. However DL2 was heavily marketed to have this dynamic story that you could steer in over 50 different directions, but what we got was not even a tenth of that.
I feel like the removal of guns is a bad idea maybe remove a few but all the guns makes it worse cause the guns in the first game were a win/lose item they do a big powerful hit but make noise and attract zombies so it was a cool mechanic (sorry for bad English I’m kinda an idiot)
I agree. not having any guns took out a whole different type of fun from the game. Instead of improving firearms, they came up with some dumb excuse for why there weren't ANY firearms in a whole city.
@@simonphoenix3789 despite having a demo explaining what was probably the ONLY gun you were going to have, they just removed weapons entirely and, in turn, removed an enemy type which the game already lacks
Yeah, I remember the excitement of getting a double barrel in the first game, and having such fun blasting zombies and thugs away. And the reason for there being no firearms is just complete bs - the city ran out of ammo. And somehow in 20 years nobody could figure out how to produce ammunition. I know 3 people who can do it just in my neighborhood lol, and I don’t live in the US
To hAve the BEST day/night system by far in gaming in general, with daytime exploring gameplay while at nighttime being hunted (and gaining bonuses) by terrifying uber predators , that you would have to work REALLY hard to avoid.... Just to tuurn it into THIS? whoever made this descision at techland, i pray for your sould because this will get you into hell
The nighttime is now as it was in the original, calm down lol. Also, I think nighttime in DL2 is much better than DL1 even if we used the previous system with howlers, with an actual incentive to stay out after dark to complete missions and do activities. In the first game we had airdrops during the night, killing Volatiles and Bolters and that was it (I'm not counting the hives in The Following since that was dlc), DL2 on the other hand has GRE anomalies, GRE Hospitals, encounters that grant weapons/armor pieces, Dark Hollows and hives inside cleared out hospitals/dark hollows. There's a lot more activites to do at night in DL2 and great rewards for said activies.
Aitor is my favourite character from the game! I found almost all of the other characters unbearable...especially Lawan. Also, I gave the PK everything. Those "survivors" were no good killers. Don't agree with your opinion that Crane was generic. He was a strong character that approached tough situations with determination. Aiden on the other hand...cries constantly over the radio for help. His constant fear in these scenes was annoying and didn't match with the brutality and horrors the player was experiencing pretty much all the time.
I mean I’d be scared shitless if I was in some of those situations and the entire tough and faces chelates with determination is literally ever single game mc so I wouldn’t say that they were wrong and aiden is more realistic if you don’t like that then go play call of duty zombies or go replay dying light 1
@@fakereal1888 When the going gets tough, the tough get going. It's no fun to play weak characters in action games. If I want to see weak characters, I'd watch a soap opera. And again, there is a disconnect between the forced cutscenes/dialogue and what the player experiences when they have control. It makes no sense to go through the game experiencing hell first hand, only to be forced in a cutscene and start crying because an NPC abandoned you. And please don't give me that "If you don't like it, then..." argument. I'm giving my opinion on Dying Light 2.
In the first dying light you can run around with ease but certain places are tough to traverse so when you find a route that allows you to get around easier it feels pretty good but from what I’ve seen from dying light 2 you can just keep on running without having any problems which to me is a downside because I like the idea of finding unintended routes to traverse a area safely
@Eclipse538 Believe it or not I haven’t even played the game yet, and you can calm down with your hostile attitude I never said that’s exactly how the game is I just said from what I’ve seen of it that’s what it seems like
I tried to like it but the story absolutely sucks and I hate the copy and paste of the city areas. That really hurt me. Like it just feels like a chore going to the quarantine zones because they are almost literally the same. And it’s same for the stores. They are all identical. They should have shrink the map down and made it a proper unique city. And night mode absolutely sucks. It’s so easy, there is no fear. The game is so formulaic. There is nothing interesting. I am really disappointed in this game. The characters are super dull and the music isn’t as good as the first.
17:41 The yellow cloth thats's placed everywhere is like a version of Runner's Vision from Mirror's Edge, which marked the most convenient way to go in red
A few things: Depending on which faction you give that first water tower to, and who you give the vnc tower transmitter to, the other faction will hate you (story wise). Another thing is that you can increase a weapons durability by modding it. Third is that yes a weapon will sometimes not use it's mod but that was also true in the first game sometimes you hit them with the element sometimes you don't, you can activate your mod while using it and sometimes depending on what mod you have you'll shoot whatever the mod is like fire, poison, electricity, ect. Fourth is that that PK crossbow, and a bow called "nails" are pretty strong and the reason the bow seemed to not do so much damage was because there's a skill you can unlock that does bonus damage
The worst part of dl1 (in my opinion) is that the story is way too short, by the time i got to what felt like the halfway point of the story (the part where you go to the radio tower to call off the firebombing in the city) i was at like, 80% story comoletion.
@@L_Lawliet1907 Probably the latter half of the game when weapons can take down zombies in 1-2 hits, and there's not any real dodging required so you can flow through zombies with a mix of dropkicks, melee, and guns. Early game could kind of feel more fast paced as well since you basically just spam click with melee weapons in order to enemies down. Also, if you count in volatiles, those chases are quicker than anything in DL2. Just overall less thought is required with DL1's combat, which could be good or bad depending on how you like to play.
@@justitgstuff5284 I’ve played more than 600 hours of DL1, and besides the gore and physics, the combat’s pretty stale. I don’t think chases are considered “combat”, although they were definitely much more tense in the first game. It’s not really fast paced when a human enemy in the first game manages to parry every attack you throw at them while you can’t parry yourself. I guess everyone has their own tastes
You cannot be unbiased. You will always have a bias, it's the nature of being human and having an opinion. That's especially true when you have a working relationship with the developers. I'm not saying being biased is an issue, you can strive to be as unbiased as possible and transparent about your relationship with the developer/company. But even then bias will still exist.
After 128 hours I couldn't even witness my ENDING since the entire cut scenes glitched out.I uninstalled it and not pretty sure if I gonna play this again in the near future.
Kinda weird that they decided to get rid of guns in the sequel. Like, even 20 years in the apocalypse, guns and ammunition would still be produced, whether by lone people, or by entire communities.
As someone who missed playing the first one… I am really enjoying Dying Light 2 so far and I can’t wait to see how it grows over the next 5 years. I am also looking forward to going back and playing Dying Light 1 now to see what I’ve missed.
I have just finished the first Dying Light around 2 weeks ago and really enjoyed it. The only problem I had was the first 3 or 4 hours. I have had the game over 3 years and started it around 4 times never getting past the first few hours as It wasn't very fun due to hardly any upgrades etc, but when you reach about the 4 hour mark and upgrade a few things It does get way better and enjoyable. I have noticed a similar problem with Dying Light 2 on a few reviews that the first few hours aren't great too, but once past that then it's way better.
Excellent analysis. Loved how you went into detail regarding the music. it felt so seamless and natural I never consciously clocked just how GOOD it was.
The world in Dying Light 1 seems it can really exist in the real world that makes it realistic. In DL 2, the world feels like a playground and unreal. Also DL 2's so colorful. 1 has that gloomy atmosphere. Hope it'll change.
im brutally honest i prefer dying light 1 over 2 partial is also due to the fact that i have a absolute hatred to timed mechanics like the immunity timer these timers made me not even bother playing dead rising games because i want to be able to just goofball around instead of being limited by time and while the immunity timer ain't as bad as dead rising 72 hour timer it still leaves me with the feeling what's the point? i know i wont be able to finish games like dead rising because I'm slow as balls when playing games were a friend finishes a call of duty game in a day i take a week heck i haven't even played out any elder scrolls or fallout games yet the movement also feels off to me its like aiden has a kardashian ass that he has to log around because sometimes the movement feels floaty like he slides on ice for less then a second doesn't help that the api ain't great at least for me got a 2070 super but got issues with directx 12 ultimate and directx 11 directx 12 is the only one were I'm not being punished by my graphic settings and 11 loves to crash often
1. Because you infected that why they an immunity timer (the first game completely ignore it) and they probably added to make night much more harder by having a timer before you turn (not until you go into UV lights) 2. (I don’t how you don’t like the new movement lol. Literally everyone love it.)They are a video why the movement is floaty go check them out 3. That suck bro
I love how everyone talks about the decisions you make not mattering but that couldn't be farther from the truth. You have to remember that even though you are the main character that doesn't mean the world revolves around you, yes you have a large impact obviously but depending on who you side with can really change what quests you are given and interactions between characters change. lets take hakon for example, in first playthrough I didnt see hakon until x13 where he makes up with lawan after betraying waltz and the renegades. now in that playthrough I naively sided with Jack Matt but in my second I sided with frank which then led me through a string of new missions and eventually a meeting with hakon who tries to take the GRE key from me but I beat him. then lawan shows up wants to kill him for what he did but then we see another side to hakon and lawan who chooses to forgive him for what he did at the VNC tower a few years back. After lawan chooses to find balance frank finally crowns her a nightrunner. not to mention hakon comes back to the nightrunners to support lawan which was fucking dope. I really liked hakon and I didnt want him to become my enemy so my actions really do matter(mainly the timed decisions you get at crucial moments in the story)
you can repair your weapons in dying light two. its those upgrades. they repair 50 durability each, and you can do it twice for most weapons, three times for artifact weapons. Personally, I only managed to use up a weapon once during an entire playthrough before the rank up occured and I went on to get a more powerful weapon. I still agree the weapon choice is terrible though. it wasn't as fun as the first game. I'd say overall Dying light 2 is slightly worse than the first game. Some improvements are great, but other things drag it down way too much. as for bows- I don't know how your bow was that weak. are you checking the ranks of enemies? if your going up against enemies that outrank your weapon, you won't kill them in one hit. Otherwise they go down in one or two shots, especially if you have archer gear equipped to maximize range damage.
Honestly, I wish the original creators got to keep working on it. From the first trailer leak, it got me amazed even after playing hours of DL1. The atmosphere, parkour, tools, everything got me so hyped. Then when I played it, I missed the old one. I despise the RPG combat with humans when some can take bombs and slashes, and the not so dark and frightening nights. There was so much potential, but everything got so messed up. I do love this game, I just wish it got to stick with it's original style and story, not with whatever state it is in now.
TL;DR Dying light 2 is good but some of the features from dl1 are missing and the story is somehow worse. everything else is better or at least on par.
Personally I do not feel like there was enough world change to the allocation of the water towers. They hyped it up before launch as "helping the PK's would lead to an authoritarian control of the city" and "helping the people would lead to other consequences" and you had to navigate this. In the end all we got were zip lines, traps that killed zombies, and giant pills that Aiden jumped on like the dude in Armageddon who "rode the nuke". It's a fun game but almost entirely on gameplay alone. Only a few characters save it from being that.
Played this game a few days after launch on a PS4 slim. The cutscenes just wouldn’t work, for example the character that’s supposed to be talking wouldn’t move their mouth and there would be no subtitles. I finished the game without knowing what the story is.
I keep hearing mixed reports on whether the combat is better, worse or basically the same as DL1 and thats whats got me most concerned. On one hand it seems to have the same impact and feedback as the first game but I've heard people say they totally ruined it which would essentially be a deal breaker for me.
The combat abilities and moves in DL2? Incredible upgrades and it can really make things feel like a duel sometimes. But the actual weapon physics, collisions, and animations? Huuuuuge downgrade from the first. In the first game when you swung a machete, you really SWANG that bitch. It really felt like you're cleaving onto an enemy and you're just trying your best to slash with an actual weapon hit box. In the second one? It's feels like a pre-made animation is used for everything and the attack animation seems so Limp and hollow.
Human combat is great. In DL1 human combat was a pain because the NPC had near perfect reflexes. But zombie combat is bad in DL2 because there's no weight to melee attacks. Like he said, all weapons feel the same and the mods are very low effort. Personally, I love the modding system of Dead Island way more. It was so unique and there were many moving parts.
I totally agree with the illusion of choice and their marketing strategy. If it was just presented as a parkour game, i would have played it with less expection but they hyped the game so much that even though the game was good i kind of hated it in the end just because of the false marketing and tbh the level design was not good, when compared to DL1 , Most of the streets look similar like they copy pasted it and there are no memorable places, its just plain. I agree with most of the most points made and this is the most accurate review of DL2 i have seen.
False marketing no? The game that we got is the exact same from 2021 marketing which was the one that we got most information and actual gameplay. Also what you want them to do not hype up the game? And they bunch of memorial place for example fucking VNC tower
I really loved the opening area of the game, the first 2 hours. Just you vs the wilderness and infected trying to survive. It has that element that I am Legend movie had too. Imagine being in Villedor but being completely alone vs the entire city of infected, completely dark without UV hideouts only the ones you make yourselves in well hidden area. That kind of gameplay is what really strikes fear into me.
Imma be honest. I loved the first game so much and after playing 50 hours of this one all I was left thinking at the end of it was “god, I wasted my money on this piece of shit.” Like there’s so much to dislike and it’s unfortunate because this was the one game I had actual faith in. Hopefully dlc fixes the game because this felt way too different from the first game
For me, I found the choice system as the worst part of DL2. I liked the story, I really did wanna see what happened. When I beat my first run, I thought of other stuff for my second stuff. I sided with the PK's for my first run. I really wanted to see what would happen if I helped the survivors for my second run. I wanted to have nothing to do with the PK's. So, when I realized I still had to work for them, I felt so disappointed. I'm gonna assume that the whole branching path was cut down drastically by the devs. Think about all the things you'd need to do. Plan multiple ways for enemies to be introduced. Multiple ways for tutorials to be shown. All the different side quests and things because of one thing. I love the parkour, combat, and 2/3 of the story. But the choice system is the worst thing about it imo.
Once I saw the "make choice and influence the world" thing, I knew the story would be shallow and the choices wouldn't really matter, just like every other games that tries to do this. The combat also doesn't feel as good. The impact visuals and sounds are lacking, and it seems to rely more on handmade animations compared to physics and ragdolls in combat. The "bullet sponge" enemies from combat levels don't help either. Other than that, it's a fun enough game with the looting and parkour keeping it enjoyable for me.
I hate that the epilogue is literally the E3 gameplay. I hate the last 30 mins of the story since I though the part where you meet the colonel will be the part where renegade faction will be open. I hoped it does and there will be 10+ more hours in the story. But no sadly.
I loved DL1's story: it had good characters, good pacing and plot twists that felt natural and right. DL2's story is simply chopped: it's obvious they had to cut entire parts of it (Avellone was fired during development) and things just happen out of the blue, for no apparent reason sometimes. The real highlight of DL2 is the gameplay, that is great. But story? It's pretty terrible, especially the final fight!
May I bring up when you pass out at the gre facility 2 people drag your ass across water and up a few flights onto the roof only to run away afraid he may turn ( IN BROUD DAYLIGHT MIGHT I ADD ) even after carrying him
I got this at release and played for maybe 15 hours before deciding I need to put it down for a while and give the Devs more time to improve it. I liked the world but felt like they'd gone in backwards direction with alot of the mechanics. Edit: Has anyone played it since the recent updates and if so is it much better than launch?
You’re right DL2 isn’t a bad game. Forget the enormous amounts of bugs and the awful story, the issue is all of the promises made by Techland. We got a completely different game once it launched. False advertisement. You play through the awful story and when you come to the end nothing you did throughout the game ended up mattering. There is 0 payoff.
My guy, when i run and the jungle like music comes on i just want to keep running and just want to keep hearing it i want a physical disc but i'm a boi so i can't
The thing i HATE the most in this game is that in first game, i got used to jumping over zombies to get past them, because they stumble so easily, in this game however, zombies are literally an area, in which you get constant damage, and if you try to jump over them, you get stuck in the air for no reason, taking damage, unable to move. Its really annoying when you're roaming around, and then a zombie makes you stuck in the air, and you cant do nothing other than just die. I don't think it should be that hard to make zombies behave like zombies, especially if they did it in last game perfectly. And the zombie grab... dont even get me started on that. i didnt have a problem with that in the first game, but here its the worst mechanic possible
The story was so good but I think it was to short and I think it ended amazingly but I also was sad when It ended cause all of the ends were pretty sad and I almost cried that it ended
I liked Dying Light 1 more. Some times less is more, and I think TECHLAND had too big ideas for Dying Light 2. Look at Horizon Forbidden West, fx. They took everything that worked from Zero Dawn and used it in Forbidden West. You dont always have to start from scratch.
Its easy to say the first game is better when it's been out for 7 years with multiple updates and an expansion and tons and tons of dlc when dying light 2 is new. Dying light had time to get as good as it is
My theory about the story being a bit odd now is that after Chris Avellone was laid off due to those allegations, a lot of stuff got rewritten sadly. I can't say it's confirmed, but that's what I think happened.
I think that Dying Light 2 is one of the best GAMES out there. I'm highlighting games because the moment to moment gameplay, exploring the city and doing activities is really fun and very addicting; especially once on higher levels. I went into GRE facilities at day on purpose for the challenge, I flew around the city at night catching special infected. And I had a blast doing that! A lot of games now focus on how it's supposed to be a grounded experience, but they miss the part where they make the game a "game". Just seeing Hangar from Doom and the thank you note for id software really puts that into perspective. Doom isn't played for the story, it's for the intense gameplay, and Dying Light 2 really excels on that front and should be commended for it. They really shouldn't have pushed how the story is amazing, because yeah, it's not the hottest sauce out there. There are interesting and engaging moments here and there, but some cutscenes are just cheese balls. But I still don't find it fair to judge the game in a more negative light because of it. Plus given how much support they've shown DL1 over the years, DL2 still has a lot of room to expand it's universe and gameplay, and I hope they show same if not more amount of love for the game over the time. Even if we take covid into consideration, while this game didn't release without it's share of issues, at least it was a fun, engaging and complete experience (unlikes games released by waaaay bigger studios which have a lot less features). But here's my unpopular opinion. I am not fan of the choices. Precisely because I love the gameplay so much. Choosing one thing over the other can lead to missing out on some missions and experiences. At the start of the game I left Hakon to die, and in that I've missed the Lawan introduction mission, and the ending turned out to be less favorable. While I understand that this for "RePLaYaBiLitY rEaSoNS", but as someone who rarely replays a game, I'm missing out on content I'd enjoy.
Addendum: I guess you could say I believe the mission at the start of the game where you help Carlos with the electric fence is a great analogy for the game itself. While Techland tried to push the game to be all about the story and choices (which worked out as well as the goat), they made something that is incredibly fun when playing (the electric fence)
What I also noticed is that unlike New Vegas, the game seems to have a preferred faction which has the best ending. I think it would’ve been interesting if there would’ve been more decisions that shaped the direction of the whole faction. The closest thing we get I think is when Jack asks you which version of PK propaganda sounds better, which doesn’t change anything about their faction however.
It's not a bad game but im disapointed with it... it was not worth preorder... and its defintely not worth the price its selling for right now imo... they have removed so much things that was so nice in the first one ... which makes non sens cuz its a 100% downgrade... so...
What do you mean it not 100 downgraded. I think it more of a upgrade parkour better, music are god tier, some of the skill that don’t make it dl2 are still there but now play with either different animation(names) or how it work(except for throwing weapon but for some reason I”m glad it gone) and there so many stuff I could mentions
I am really hoping we will get another modding community with a steam workshop menu for dying light two so people can build onto the game themselves like in the first game, that way we may have a chance to see the e3 gameplay trailers in action
No, dying light 2 was not awesome at all. It might look nice when you are outside somewhere high on the roofs but overall the experience is awful. Biggest mistake they made was the x-ray, what the hell? No game needs an x-ray unless you are an Predator from Aliens. P.S IGN and many other game reviewers are paid and bought bs. Also definitely not worth 60 dollars.
the game was massively enjoyable although different from the first game. they changed up a bit to what their original vision for the first game was even if they werent exactly qualified for such. the gameplay is incredible, the story is passable and enjoyable at times, but it could use some work and time in the oven.
So I went into a GRE facility once with a bunch of immunityboosters. I got there a bit late so by the time I got to the end it was daytime. Day time becomes intense in there. So intense, I found out you can fast travel from inside the facilities.
Mostly agree, I thought the main story with Waltz needed more front seat, felt tacked on but a good concept. The story of Frank, Lawan and the return of the Nightrunners was cool and could have been fleshed out more, but: - Barney was a great character, IMO. Well written and acted as an unlikable dude. WAAAAY more interesting than most of the character who felt bland and generic. -silly sidequests were in DL1 and part of the quirky charm in that game. Problem is, in this game they somehow lack charm and there were too many compared to more serious ones that you feel needed to be done. The biggest problem is not only the under deliver on consequences, but how the characters, even if affected, end up mostly all being disposable after that singular interaction. You save Aitor, you see him layer, then he is gone. Barnet would have made a great continued mini antagonist to have to deal with (like the spaz dude in days gone). But none of them ultimately matter. They have their 15 min in the game and are done.
We already had decapitation and dismemberment with lots of blood in DL1. You could even use some weapons like axes or nail bats and take chunks off from zombies, leaving the thoracic cavity or other parts of the body like lower half exposed. Even cut them in two and see guts. You could mangle bodies even more in depth in 1 and the twitches after taking the head off was also there.
i'll make this quick i first dying light zombies could fall from ledges and when you broke their bones game was doing x-ray with slow motion second game doesn't have those would seem BASIC features, even dead island had slow motion on bone breaking hits... and it is supposed to be "next-gen" the better one... and it's main hero get's suckerpunched almost every cutscene wich compared to crane who was a badass is lame - i don't want to play as a weak pathetic fool
idk if its just my system (My pc is a beast), but my main issue with the game is the parkour. I had no issues with DL1 (or any other games with parkour or climbing). In DL2 I mostly die from falling off building, missing ledges, or when jumping off buildings the roll animation isn't triggered. Parkour in fights do not work 90% of the time. Fighting at night is a grind and eventually boring. I don't mind the story and thought the vo acting was decent. I think it would be more appropriate to call the game Looting Hoarder in Zombie Land - since that's mostly all you do. Regarding Caesar in Fallout - I met him way too late in the game and I killed him (your not supposed to be able to at that part of the story) - this broke the game so I was never able to finish the game since my auto save happened right after I killed him.
Why is no one talking about the fact that they took out the ability to throw weapons? To me that was one of my favorite abilities in the original and it made the combat feel way more gruesome
That's pretty much the only thing I didn't like about 2, second to them making the recycling of Old Town Harran's buildings so obvious and third to the night not being scary anymore.
How about no guns
@@Orly-pl4un nah I enjoy no guns. I think that was a good idea and I thought the guns in dying light weren't needed anyway.
@@balaketheyoungin2076 just boring swinging weapons and bow and arrows are boring :(
@@Orly-pl4un but guns are also boring since most if not all zombie games have guns
i wanted to love this game but i get extremely bored every time i hop on. i absolutely loved dying light 1, and this game SEEMS better, but everything about the game just feels forgettable
wassup sc6ut
idk bro, i was a huge fan of DL1, had atleast 200 hours played in total, and i was very skeptical about DL2. but i absolutely loved this game and i like it even more than the 1st one, give it a few more time if you've played under 10 hours, it only gets better as you play
@@vraua i agree it has gotten better over the time that i have played, the pacing has been picking up more and more. i'll give it a better chance
@@ssscout i'm glad to hear that, hope you enjoy the game mate
This is the most relatable comment I've seen on Dying Light 2. The game is much better in theory than it is in practice. I barely got through the story, and when I did I left the game almost instantly, and unlike the first game I don't feel like coming back for at least a few years.
I think the story went downhill after the directors and employees at techland started to leave, in the 2019 trailer Aiden mentioned his father and the story seem a lot different. If Chris avellon had stayed I think the story could have been a lot better
It's all because I the B I T C H that made those allegations. If not for her we would've had a banger story. The allegations we're never proved true anyway
Feck man I knew it. I was thinking, I bet it's not the original team that made this game. I hope they bring it back to its former glory.
People still remember about that, I’m glad I’m not the only one, told all my friends but they still thought it was just going to be the same like the first one.
I really don't care much for a story, I just want a fantastic multiplayer experience with a Night Hunter Invasion option and gameplay free of bugs. Techland failed on both fronts.
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I feel the exact opposite. I want an engaging story but don’t care for the multiplayer content.
The thing about GRE quarantines is that they're all copy pasted and share the exact same experience, there was no twist or turn that catches you off guard. They get extremely repetitive and boring to do.
Yeah I was extremely disappointed about that.
After doing 3 or 4 I never did another one. It's the exact same gameplay.
A lot of copy paste overall. Most of the building offices are the same as well. I wanted to explore but it's just the same building over and over again.
The quarantine zones in DL1 were my favorite places due to their fascinating lore and chilling atmosphere. The ones in 2 just felt like I was playing one of those gunslinger arcade shooters that takes place in a haunted house lol.
They had a whole gameplay video where Aiden snuck into the colonel’s fortress and chose to divert the water elsewhere and because of that choice it opened up a whole area that was underwater. That blew my mind.
I haven’t been able to figure out if it’s even still a thing.
It is
That gameplay video is still in the final game, it's the second to last mission and the first half of the epilogue mission. You can choose to divert the water and open the underwater area, but it just opens up that part for exploration and there really isn't a consequence for doing it or not
Yep that thing with the sunken city is still in the game
it is
@@Bmarquez1997 I mean you have a whole area full of drowners so that's a consequence I guess
I liked kyle more than aidan, to me kyle was just more enjoyable overall, he slowly got attached to the other survivors like us (the clearest to me is when when rahim dies). Aidan i did not really care fore, I despise the survivors of old villedore and only love some in the central, the only ones I felt attached to were hakon, frank, aitor, and rowe
Aiden seems arrogant to me. Really didn’t like that
I think that Aiden was a bit better when it comes to backstory but Aiden just acts like an a-hole later on, especially if you give the VNC tower to Frank and he just yells at him the next morning
Aiden is one of the biggest dumbasses in the game protagonist history, imo. Keeps getting beaten by enemies constantly to end the ongoing cutscene, keeps talking over everything, and when Waltz turns on the power with the key (something Aiden literally saw happen in front of him), he is absolutely flabbergasted as to how and why the power in the city has been turned on and does after a short while suspect that it might be Waltz who is behind that.
The story wasn’t what I was expecting, but I still liked it and the characters presented. It was like someone offering you a hot dog but when you say yes they give you a hamburger. It’s like OH OK not what I was expecting but HEY STILL TASTES GOOD. 🙂
Amazing description
Hamburgers are better than hotdogs
DL1 is better than DL2.
@@toy5965 Yea. No clue who prefers a hotdog over a hamburger. So many more flavors in a hamburger than just a blend of different meats in a long bun with condiments.
I did like some choices. Like the little girl's music box going into your valuables instead of quest items and you getting heartbroken when you realize you sold it and don't remember which merchant you sold it to.
@@mksmike Does it not get sold when you press C to sell all valuables? Because if pressing C to sell all valuables also sells that item, then that is terrible game design. Sure, I could go and store it in my chest if that is what happens, but most people won't even realize that the item got stored in their valuables instead of as a sellable quest item.
Stealth was damn near impossible. I just ended up going for huge crowd fights in bandit camps
You need to turn off the flashlight when you stealth
When I got to the Strong Hold i got ganged up on within seconds and I had the upgrade and everything to make stealth easier
I had the opposite experience. Combat against humans was so ridiculous that I always try to stealth kill them.
@@prime_optimus so, did you get better at fighting the humans?
Yh it was disappointing
1. The world looked so much better in the trailers and it was pretty boring and lacking.
2. The story was decent but it weren’t anything special
3. Combat with humans was a major improvement but with the infected it just didn’t have that same realistic touch that the first game did.
4. There are an insane amount of bugs and although it’s not game breaking it’s really annoying.
5. I didn’t find it scary like I did with the first game because the night is too light and it’s pretty easy.
6. A lot of the characters are really boring and they didn’t live up to the hype.
Yeah I finished it last week about 80 hours finish story and I although I did like parts of it I sincerely doubt I'm gonna play any of it's dlc or even remember much of it in a week or two.
7. outfits, weapons, throwable items are too overpower. thats why i get bored easily, not too satisfy playing the game.
8. musics are ok except the chase theme. its not scary as the first game theme.
9. also, speaking of the infection timer, i felt like it wasnt important that much in the game when ur lvl 3-4.
kinda sad
i agree with most of what you said except 1 and 5. the world is already pretty detailed on release considering they're still adding patches to this day, with the amount of traversal you can do you can spend hours just running around and not get bored at least imo. the night time in dl2 is waaaay scarier than dl1. in dl1's late game you can basically two shot volatiles that i didn't mind going on chases cause i knew i had no chance of dying unless i fell. in dl2 even if you're max level you'd still wanna avoid chase level 3 and 4 cause a single volatile pounce leads to a chain cc that's hard to escape without UV shit
@@cocomartin5130 1-it's just a bunch of bland copy pasted areas with no subtle stories
2-being hard is not the same as being scary, even the volatiles "desings" are downgraded, they look cartoonish and bright
3-you can easily escape a chase if you know what you're doing, what's not the case with you and whoever get's scared while playing this shitty game
@@am1hm1 1 - there's always a main location every 200 meters where there are points of interests. the copy pasted areas are almost negligible if you're actively doing quests.
2 - brighter volatiles compared to dl1? they're pale as your smooth brain, dl1 had bloodied designs on everything. cartoonish isn't necessarily bad as the whole game is a lot cartoonish.
3 - what's the point of triggering a chase level 4 if you're gonna end it right away. dragging it along for the multiplier is the hard part. you clearly don't know how to play the game. of course it's easy when you're playing on piss easy mode.
your negative opinions are so generic for such a well received game. keep living in dying light 1 buddy, i'm sure your channel will NOT make it some day
My main gripes with the game is that they changed stuff that didn't need to be changed compared to the first game.
-Volatiles dont patrol the streets anymore.
-The overwhelming focus on living people instead of making the infected the real threat.
-The fact that night time is extremely safe. You have to go out of your way to make is threatening.
-Chases dont happen naturally. They come down to Howlers spotting you... even if you kill them before they scream, the chase still happens. I assume because they spot you so the chase happens automatically.
-The chase is like a GTA wanted level. You dont get volatiles until chase level 3. Which is dumb.
-The enemies that tie into the level system. Instead of new skills allowing you to kill zombies in different ways, you just level up and brute force your way past them. In the first game, you had to rely on your environment a lot at the start. In DL2, you are either very over levelled for old areas or too under levelled for new areas which gives the game an artificial barrier. Its not to make it difficult, it is to block the play from exploring where they want to without instantly dying. Also, shooting someone in the head and them either not instantly dying... especially them taking little damage is stupid. So stealth is basically pointless in this game.
-NO WEAPON CRAFTING - This was a massive sin. You had to buy weapons instead of scavenging parts and creating new stuff.
Id really love to hear your thoughts about the game since the couple of updates, how do you feel playing the game in 2024?
It might just be me, but I totally disagree about the soundtrack. The darkish synth made DL1 much more scary and mysterious, whereas I felt the soundtrack in DL2 was always really uplifting and joyful. An example is the VNC tower mission in DL2 and the DL1 mission, where you climb the antenna tower, to save the city from being firebombed. The missions are pretty much identical and are both supposed to be these near-impossible tasks, but in DL2 the music suddenly gets super uplifting and cheerful, completely forgetting that Aiden was just screaming for help over the radio. It really didn't seem to fit the situation in my opinion.
DL1 soundtrack is legendary but this guy is right, DL2 soundtrack is next level. Both are great in different ways.
For what it is, I adore dying light 2's soundtrack. Especially that dynamic ability it has. It wasn't what I was hoping for in the game though. Thematically I liked dying light 1's music more, disregarding the world around it I like dying light 2s music more
@@Wulfjager DL2 is a pretty big step down in terms of atmosphere but it’s still fun.
I didn’t like the story much. Lawan and Aidens relationship felt forced to me. I ended up wondering why they “care” so much about eachother. I also didn’t like that the game rewards you for forgiving certain characters for turning on you, the only character I really liked was Aitor to be honest.
I pretty much agree with almost everything you said except the stealth part. because Stealth is USELESS (they could've done it in a way where a story consequence happens or you'll get a different ending if you fail a stealth segment)
You probably forgot to add the difficulty talking point. but my opinion there is that its TOO EASY. idk if techland is trying to be TOO accessible but they gave us a choice to make it hard. so why isnt it hard? Anyway, playing this immediately on hard blind, I thought it would be as hard as DL1 at night but the only thing that's hard in DL2 is when a group of volatiles are fighting you at the SAME TIME.
Plus this game has a lot of OP stuff in it. The crossbow and the maxxed out UV flashlight for example.
if you have lets say a crossbow though, it makes fighting a group of volatiles TOO easy now. Plus if you have the maxxed out UV flashlight you can melee the volatiles one on one. And since the Volatiles are the only challenge this game offers, it just disappoints me how its gotten too easy.
This also is added to the fact that the AI is really stupid at times. You can exploit the UV flashlight zones during Chases at nights and just Farm the Virals and Volatiles while using the UV flashlight zones as cover and as a way to repeat the chase. Volatiles start appearing at Chase 3 and 4. So if you just want to farm trophies like Uncommons or Rares, just exploit the AI and use the Howlers to restart the chase. Kill zombies until Chase 2 ends then go to the UV zone to restart the chase. go to a howler. and repeat.
Also you forgot to mention that dying in this game is not a problem at all. you dont lose anything. you dont lose progress. some can use it as a way to switch from day or night. or to teleport to safezone.
Edit: On another note. Multiplayer is kind of pointless. The only thing you can do in an online session is play around in the map and do some time trials. But there's only so much you can do before it gets boring. Also, who in their right mind would play the story in coop?
@@TrickyJebus people who have friends bru
@@TrickyJebus the multiplayer doesn’t even work for most of Xbox players and a lot of PS players !
@@ZayP730 Hahahahaha XD
I think the stealth part did matter during the mission where you infiltrated the renegade base in a car. I did full stealth and got to the colonel by myself. But others did it guns blazing and Lawan interfered in the hallway.
This is still on one example though, which still makes your point valid.
As a longtime Romero fan (Day of the dead above anything) I found in DL1 perfection as a zombie game. Amazing gameplay, great level design, the world is breathing and every corner tells you a story of things gone wrong. 80s style arpeggiated synths and incredible sound design enhance the atmosphere even further. Story it's not ground breaking but I found it quite enjoyable, like a "cheap comic book style story that it's really entertaining". Now I played DL2 and I don't really like it. Why? Gameplay it's even better, funny as hell, graphics are amazing (raytraced lighting it's gorgeous) sound design is top notch. So why I don't like it like DL1? Atmosphere. While some locations on the map are very good and inspired, I find DL2 world sort of "bland, cliched post apocaliptic generic world" in total contrast with the charismatic, exotic, windy Harran. Story is maybe more complex but less engaging, and music... Well some track are ok I guess but nothing sticks in my head as "incredibly cool".
You didn’t find the theme song, or the parlor song catchy?
Yes
I give the game a 7 out of 10, but I give your review probably a 4 or 5 out of 10.
1. Sure, the game is beautiful. Especially the sunrises and sets. However, it all looks the same. Aside from the obvious difference between Old Vil and Central, the only stand out parts of the cities would be the Dam. That's it. That's basically how the game breaks down: Old Vil, Central, and the Dam. I can't tell you of a single memorable section of Central nor Old Vil. Especially because this game is basically 90% rooftops. In the first game you had the Cauldron, the Bridge, the Beach (tbf part of bridge), the Hills near the bridge area, Gazi's area, several sections of slums, Trainyard, several highway sections, and more. Maybe the reason these each feel unique is because you are forced to traverse THROUGH them rather than simply...gliding over them. Once I got the paraglider it simply became a game of flying from one special location to another. They didn't do enough to diversify the town.
2. Speaking on things being too similar, GRE hospitals, special encounters, and the shop "dungeons" are basically all the same. Hardly any memorable diversity. GRE almost got it, but it's always the same loop. 4 floors, and every floor has the same look. The only different one is the very first one you enter with Hakon where it is legitimately dark and unique. In the first game you had quarantine zones, but they each were a unique scenario and setup. A zombie flooded cargo warehouse, a grocery store with electrified water, a smoke filled apartment, etc.
3. Stealth is only somewhat mandatory if you are too low level for the place. Renegade hideouts really posed ko problem. Especially with drop-kicking off buildings. The stealth worked fine, really.
4. Yea, the weapons and mods in this are junk. I honestly just slapped on Fling, Damage, and Flame on all my weapons based on critical hit. Not to mention the crappy repair system that forces you to use a weapon without a mod until it loses 50 durability, then with only one mod till it loses another 50, etc. All because it only HEALS 50 instead of adds to max too. Maybe a bug. Idk.
5. Paraglider having stamina makes sense, and upgrading it makes it last longer. There are also air streams you can enter to regain stamina and gain a speed boost.
6. You missed the chance to get the better version of a bow: The crossbow. This thing does a stupid amount of damage and can fire incredibly fast (must reload, but is fairly quick). Can basically 3-4 shot volatiles.
7. Night would have been way more improved if there were volatiles walking around the streets and even rooftops like in the first game. This even makes sense per the narrative, because they leave the "dungeons" at night. So if they aren't down there and aren't on the streets, where the f*ck did they go? A bar or something? There is also no real incentive to hit the streets, be it day or night time.
Fully agree, I also felt like his review had some major oversights. IMO, the most troublesome being that, like you mentioned, all the GRE hospitals, dark zones, GRE monsters, etc. are all copy/pasted. If you hadn't played the game and watched this review, you'd think they were all fairly diverse.
He also didn't mention how the paraglider invalidates the best part of the game, the parkour. The upgraded glider (which is stupid easy to obtain) is faster than running, and way way faster than climbing. I think they could fix this by getting rid of the "sprint" option while gliding so that it's impossible to gain height without hitting a vent or airflow. I think they should also cut down on the number of vents.
Amen to that first point. Drop me off in Harran without a map - and I'll quickly get my bearings and figure out where I need to go.
Drop me off in Villedor - and I will have absolutely no idea where the hell I am or where anything is. Granted, Villedor is much larger, and I've played DL2 a lot less than DL1 - but even so, the neighbourhoods don't really feel distinct, bar a couple of landmarks.
I agree, I was expecting a similar feel to Dying Light and the ambience too. I didnt need it to look hyper realistic but I miss the feel of the first one. I know it will be advanced but my expectations were sadly let down. I expected better volatiles, virals, zombies and the ambience. If the fall happened 15 years before, the streets shouldn't be that barren. I got attached to Hakon and Lawan ofc but I missed the previous scary vibes
Everything you wrote is true, excpecially part about similarity of gre zones and other world activities. This is so dumb, why the f they thought it was a good idea to put very similar abandoned shops with crappy loot around every corner, I am so dissapointed when I travell through the city, see a question mark on the map and when I identify It it's the freaking store with useless loot that I can buy from vendors
@@Subllama yea that was the biggest thing for me. I expected "Dying Light: 2", not "Dying Light: The Aftermath". Would've been more accurate title tbh, and wouldn't have gotten my hopes up so high with such a meh title.
I wanna rant so hard on how they could've just.. made it the first game but with more content and a new story instead of removing all the parts I loved the most about the game. Like the tight platforming that was executed well and pushed to limits with bozak horde, the more overpowered and goofy skills in the tree like stunned takedowns and camouflage that made you FEEL that you made progress and became a zombie slaying gigachad.
16:50 but what if the charm of the original game is that it wasn’t “video game-y”
I liked how more realistic it felt. The world felt more real because of it. It felt less like a mechanically obvious jungle gym
I didn’t really like the upgrading system where you have to get the infected trophies. If there was a skill that made it so you picked up more infected trophies then that’d be great, even if it was just double the trophies
That why you grind at night time to get infected trophy
every time i play dl2 I just miss the time i had playing the original game... Just thinking about it almost makes me feel nostalgic
just play the fucking game then
its not like its gone forever lmao
@@troll_486I mean it kind of is. DL2 is the proof lol
In my opinion I think some massive shit went down behind the scenes that flipped development on it's head, could explain why the sequence were you plead to the renagedes for water access was rewritten in a rather slapdash way to be the final mission
I thought I was the only one that noticed that there was clear rewrites regarding that when discussing with my friends about this game. Glad to know I'm not crazy.
@@matthewhewitt4145 thought the same thing till the epilogue box ticked up
funny how they changed it from being about water to missiles but the mission still plays out in exactly the same way
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe it's clear we got cyberpunked again just not as bad. They needed more time and released it too early due to pressure. I have literally never seen a game this buggy on release, and that includes AC Unity.
@@matthewhewitt4145 for me it wasn't even that buggy. Just small random janky thingsm
Honestly when it comes to night time I prefer my “OH SHIT” moment to come from getting spotted by a volatile not from running out of time and having to run back to a safe house…like wtffff
Immunity meter ruins the whole game.
@@mushmmm1509 how?
25:36 dead island 2 had the same mechanic in 2015 when yager was still working on it but instead of doing parkour the soundtrack kept changing depending on how many zombies were following you which was a fucking incredible idea and i loved how there were few different songs like an electric guitar or trumpets that played when you triggered them. i really hope they keep this in the final game since its such a unique feature that i don't think i've seen in any other game
Doom 2016 and the newer one soundtracks work in a similar way, changing up depending on what the player is doing. I don't know of any others that do this, but some most likely will do.
Did they keep it in the end? I haven't had a chance to play it yet.
@@alex-qn5xp from what i saw i think they got rid of it for some reason
The GRE facilities were really cool, I ended up going to one pretty late into the game and I wanted to level up so I could have an easier time with a side quest I was doing. Well it turns out someone wasn't watching the time because I was suddenly attacked by a whole heap of volatiles and virals when I was half way into the facility. Thankfully I was able to get out but that was the most tense experience I've had since the fetus in RE8
My peak best moment in DL1 is being scared at night trying to survive the fast and hard zombies...
That not being in DL2 is the only reason i don't know if i should buy it...
you should definitely buy it but not for full price there is a hard mode which makes the night more scary, combat and parkour is amazing but i would only recommend buying on next gen consoles. i play on series x at 1440p 60fps and have around 120 hours and i loved every minute, if you still haven’t got it i would get it second hand or wait for a sale. hope this helped :)
@@oliver-p5907 thx mate
@@farzin4947 It’s 30 dollars for the next few hours or something.
22:58 you can cut off heads in dying light 1 too
I agree a lot with what you said about the weapons being lacking, having everything you pick up be so temporary didn't give me the incentive to upgrade it at all. Especially since upgrade parts were so rare. I wish they kept a similar levelling and rarity system to the first, starting with pipes and ending with really durable tools that you wanted to upgrade. The system that made each rarity more durable and upgradable than the last made finding a purple weapon a real boon that you would be using for a while! And when you finally got that bow, it was really something else. Allowing you to take out special infected from range with attracting more. I never liked the guns in dying light or dead island, they always felt rather weightless. Totally necessary for tougher fights but never something I'd use running around Harran.
I like the story of dl2 but I think that, in focusing on the narative it lost the fun and sometimes ridiculous parts of dl1. It took itself too seriously to let you get abducted by aliens, build a gun with hookah parts to kill our lizard overlords, or include anyone like Tolga and Fatin. They were annoying but you knew you'd get awesome stuff for working with them, culminating in the button.
I really like dl2, I did buy the ultimate edition after all. I know techland love their games and listen to the fans, Which is the best thing you can ask for from game devs.
Just mentioning. This game combines two features from my top favorite games that I recommend. Tomb Raider with climbing & indicators, check out the 3 most recent. Mirror's Edge 1&2 with parkour, including wall running.
Aiden babaiden was the best part of the story for me! Always made me laugh every time! “Aidy!” And my first game file got corrupted so I started a new game but picked different choices and I still feel I could replay with different choices/ side quests.
8:08, You should've thought this through before putting this small part in video, because it does matter to other people, and just because people don't complain about this with a certain game doesn't make this course of action, right. It's a scummy decision that is actively made lie to customers and undermining it is not a good idea, because it encourages companies to use shortcuts like this for rip-off people that buys games and not get more polished games in future.
Also, I totally agree on the Filler dialogue stuff. Sometimes I'd just read the subtitles and skip through the dialogue because I really didn't wanna waste time. Haven't done that in DL1 in most of the times.
It's also dissapointing that the Sunken City is just a green reskin of The Old Villedor (It even has the same burger place)
It's also totally impossible to loot a Dark Hollow, because the space is so claustrophobic that zombies always notice you, even if you don't have the fleshlight on. Same with the Dark Zones.
with the dark hollows, maybe youre just bad? i have no problems with it whatsoever
@@GeneralZ11 Maybe, but I have no problem hiding in the gre labs tho...
FLESHLIGHT?!
@@JayJay_18_ Well...
Dying light 1 is better in so many ways, the zombie behaviour, the horror at night, the weapons including all the guns, the buggies, The Following Story, all the different blueprints, the higher difficulty settings, the second game just feels like a downgrade. I became so overpowered in the first few hours I felt bad killing the zombies and the paragliding especially when fully upgraded just made the parkour redundant night time gameplay was a dissapointment because there was no volatiles patrolling and the story was so cliche and nonsensical
Bro it's only just released, every game is buggy on release. And the game is getting 5 years of content
Isn't dl1 story also cliché?
@@Master-Of-The-Judgment-Nut-End I know your comment is old but yes DL1 story wasnt a masterpiece. However DL2 was heavily marketed to have this dynamic story that you could steer in over 50 different directions, but what we got was not even a tenth of that.
I feel like the removal of guns is a bad idea maybe remove a few but all the guns makes it worse cause the guns in the first game were a win/lose item they do a big powerful hit but make noise and attract zombies so it was a cool mechanic (sorry for bad English I’m kinda an idiot)
I agree. not having any guns took out a whole different type of fun from the game. Instead of improving firearms, they came up with some dumb excuse for why there weren't ANY firearms in a whole city.
@@simonphoenix3789 despite having a demo explaining what was probably the ONLY gun you were going to have, they just removed weapons entirely and, in turn, removed an enemy type which the game already lacks
Yeah, I remember the excitement of getting a double barrel in the first game, and having such fun blasting zombies and thugs away. And the reason for there being no firearms is just complete bs - the city ran out of ammo. And somehow in 20 years nobody could figure out how to produce ammunition. I know 3 people who can do it just in my neighborhood lol, and I don’t live in the US
the boomstick exists
To hAve the BEST day/night system by far in gaming in general, with daytime exploring gameplay while at nighttime being hunted (and gaining bonuses) by terrifying uber predators , that you would have to work REALLY hard to avoid.... Just to tuurn it into THIS? whoever made this descision at techland, i pray for your sould because this will get you into hell
The nighttime is now as it was in the original, calm down lol.
Also, I think nighttime in DL2 is much better than DL1 even if we used the previous system with howlers, with an actual incentive to stay out after dark to complete missions and do activities. In the first game we had airdrops during the night, killing Volatiles and Bolters and that was it (I'm not counting the hives in The Following since that was dlc), DL2 on the other hand has GRE anomalies, GRE Hospitals, encounters that grant weapons/armor pieces, Dark Hollows and hives inside cleared out hospitals/dark hollows. There's a lot more activites to do at night in DL2 and great rewards for said activies.
Aitor is my favourite character from the game! I found almost all of the other characters unbearable...especially Lawan.
Also, I gave the PK everything. Those "survivors" were no good killers.
Don't agree with your opinion that Crane was generic. He was a strong character that approached tough situations with determination. Aiden on the other hand...cries constantly over the radio for help. His constant fear in these scenes was annoying and didn't match with the brutality and horrors the player was experiencing pretty much all the time.
I mean I’d be scared shitless if I was in some of those situations and the entire tough and faces chelates with determination is literally ever single game mc so I wouldn’t say that they were wrong and aiden is more realistic if you don’t like that then go play call of duty zombies or go replay dying light 1
@@fakereal1888 When the going gets tough, the tough get going. It's no fun to play weak characters in action games. If I want to see weak characters, I'd watch a soap opera.
And again, there is a disconnect between the forced cutscenes/dialogue and what the player experiences when they have control. It makes no sense to go through the game experiencing hell first hand, only to be forced in a cutscene and start crying because an NPC abandoned you.
And please don't give me that "If you don't like it, then..." argument. I'm giving my opinion on Dying Light 2.
@@Lanokota and your opinion isn’t wanted on a game that is supposed to have a weaker character
@@fakereal1888 Ah, the Opinion Police is it? Am I under arrest, officer? 🤣
I mean aiden would be much younger than crane though
Hey Aiden...you been here for a while .. your almost one of us now!.... after you done built back up half the city..
In the first dying light you can run around with ease but certain places are tough to traverse so when you find a route that allows you to get around easier it feels pretty good but from what I’ve seen from dying light 2 you can just keep on running without having any problems which to me is a downside because I like the idea of finding unintended routes to traverse a area safely
This take is wrong. Play the game first
@Eclipse538 well it seems like 24 people agree with me so I’m not sure who to believe
@Eclipse538 Believe it or not I haven’t even played the game yet, and you can calm down with your hostile attitude I never said that’s exactly how the game is I just said from what I’ve seen of it that’s what it seems like
I tried to like it but the story absolutely sucks and I hate the copy and paste of the city areas. That really hurt me. Like it just feels like a chore going to the quarantine zones because they are almost literally the same. And it’s same for the stores. They are all identical. They should have shrink the map down and made it a proper unique city. And night mode absolutely sucks. It’s so easy, there is no fear. The game is so formulaic. There is nothing interesting. I am really disappointed in this game. The characters are super dull and the music isn’t as good as the first.
the blood doesnt splatter on to the wall.. how is the blood better😑
It definitely splatters on the wall i see it happen all the time when I'm playing
@@imacryptid5254 not as much as the first.. definitely doesnt look as good thats the whole point..
17:41 The yellow cloth thats's placed everywhere is like a version of Runner's Vision from Mirror's Edge, which marked the most convenient way to go in red
I can't get over the fact that they literally showed the last mission on a demo over 2 years ago
Fr I beat the game today and was so confused on why they did that
Back then I don’t that mission was the last one
great vid really enjoyed it but btw are you ever planning to continue playing the long dark story
No
The zombie combat, physics and gore are so much better in the first one.
That's a lie
@@cleverseal2431
Both look bad to me
@@InnerRise then what looks good to you
@@Foodsipper
Horizon Forbidden West
24:45 I feel personally attacked!!!! Dying light 1 soundtrack is also super amazing.
A few things: Depending on which faction you give that first water tower to, and who you give the vnc tower transmitter to, the other faction will hate you (story wise). Another thing is that you can increase a weapons durability by modding it. Third is that yes a weapon will sometimes not use it's mod but that was also true in the first game sometimes you hit them with the element sometimes you don't, you can activate your mod while using it and sometimes depending on what mod you have you'll shoot whatever the mod is like fire, poison, electricity, ect. Fourth is that that PK crossbow, and a bow called "nails" are pretty strong and the reason the bow seemed to not do so much damage was because there's a skill you can unlock that does bonus damage
The worst part of dl1 (in my opinion) is that the story is way too short, by the time i got to what felt like the halfway point of the story (the part where you go to the radio tower to call off the firebombing in the city) i was at like, 80% story comoletion.
I prefer the first one by far. They just changed a lot with the second that takes away with made one great.
Like what?
@@IT.93 combat isn't as fast pace and arcade like the first one which is something I wish they have instead of the slow paced combat
@@Sarahm2261 What part of DL1's combat was fast paced or arcade?
@@L_Lawliet1907 Probably the latter half of the game when weapons can take down zombies in 1-2 hits, and there's not any real dodging required so you can flow through zombies with a mix of dropkicks, melee, and guns. Early game could kind of feel more fast paced as well since you basically just spam click with melee weapons in order to enemies down. Also, if you count in volatiles, those chases are quicker than anything in DL2. Just overall less thought is required with DL1's combat, which could be good or bad depending on how you like to play.
@@justitgstuff5284 I’ve played more than 600 hours of DL1, and besides the gore and physics, the combat’s pretty stale. I don’t think chases are considered “combat”, although they were definitely much more tense in the first game.
It’s not really fast paced when a human enemy in the first game manages to parry every attack you throw at them while you can’t parry yourself.
I guess everyone has their own tastes
When I gave the water tower in Old Villedor to PKs, the bazaar got abandoned and all of the side quests there are gone, did your game glitch out?
You cannot be unbiased. You will always have a bias, it's the nature of being human and having an opinion. That's especially true when you have a working relationship with the developers. I'm not saying being biased is an issue, you can strive to be as unbiased as possible and transparent about your relationship with the developer/company. But even then bias will still exist.
After 128 hours I couldn't even witness my ENDING since the entire cut scenes glitched out.I uninstalled it and not pretty sure if I gonna play this again in the near future.
Kinda weird that they decided to get rid of guns in the sequel.
Like, even 20 years in the apocalypse, guns and ammunition would still be produced, whether by lone people, or by entire communities.
100% gameplay related decision rather than lore.
So what the fuck was the shot at garlic powder out of nowhere ??
As someone who missed playing the first one… I am really enjoying Dying Light 2 so far and I can’t wait to see how it grows over the next 5 years. I am also looking forward to going back and playing Dying Light 1 now to see what I’ve missed.
I have just finished the first Dying Light around 2 weeks ago and really enjoyed it. The only problem I had was the first 3 or 4 hours. I have had the game over 3 years and started it around 4 times never getting past the first few hours as It wasn't very fun due to hardly any upgrades etc, but when you reach about the 4 hour mark and upgrade a few things It does get way better and enjoyable. I have noticed a similar problem with Dying Light 2 on a few reviews that the first few hours aren't great too, but once past that then it's way better.
The first dying light is more of a pain to get into. You are extremely weak and slow at the start which I personally didn't like.
@@JudeTheRUclipsPoopersubscribe That's what makes a game interesting considering crane was just a mere human being
@@adityasalunkhe1288 mere human being?
2:11 the grandma that has over 4k hours in that game is so fucking cool
Excellent analysis. Loved how you went into detail regarding the music. it felt so seamless and natural I never consciously clocked just how GOOD it was.
The world in Dying Light 1 seems it can really exist in the real world that makes it realistic. In DL 2, the world feels like a playground and unreal. Also DL 2's so colorful. 1 has that gloomy atmosphere. Hope it'll change.
im brutally honest i prefer dying light 1 over 2 partial is also due to the fact that i have a absolute hatred to timed mechanics like the immunity timer these timers made me not even bother playing dead rising games because i want to be able to just goofball around instead of being limited by time and while the immunity timer ain't as bad as dead rising 72 hour timer it still leaves me with the feeling what's the point? i know i wont be able to finish games like dead rising because I'm slow as balls when playing games were a friend finishes a call of duty game in a day i take a week heck i haven't even played out any elder scrolls or fallout games yet
the movement also feels off to me its like aiden has a kardashian ass that he has to log around because sometimes the movement feels floaty like he slides on ice for less then a second
doesn't help that the api ain't great at least for me got a 2070 super but got issues with directx 12 ultimate and directx 11 directx 12 is the only one were I'm not being punished by my graphic settings and 11 loves to crash often
1. Because you infected that why they an immunity timer (the first game completely ignore it) and they probably added to make night much more harder by having a timer before you turn (not until you go into UV lights)
2. (I don’t how you don’t like the new movement lol. Literally everyone love it.)They are a video why the movement is floaty go check them out
3. That suck bro
I love how everyone talks about the decisions you make not mattering but that couldn't be farther from the truth. You have to remember that even though you are the main character that doesn't mean the world revolves around you, yes you have a large impact obviously but depending on who you side with can really change what quests you are given and interactions between characters change. lets take hakon for example, in first playthrough I didnt see hakon until x13 where he makes up with lawan after betraying waltz and the renegades. now in that playthrough I naively sided with Jack Matt but in my second I sided with frank which then led me through a string of new missions and eventually a meeting with hakon who tries to take the GRE key from me but I beat him. then lawan shows up wants to kill him for what he did but then we see another side to hakon and lawan who chooses to forgive him for what he did at the VNC tower a few years back. After lawan chooses to find balance frank finally crowns her a nightrunner. not to mention hakon comes back to the nightrunners to support lawan which was fucking dope. I really liked hakon and I didnt want him to become my enemy so my actions really do matter(mainly the timed decisions you get at crucial moments in the story)
you can repair your weapons in dying light two. its those upgrades. they repair 50 durability each, and you can do it twice for most weapons, three times for artifact weapons. Personally, I only managed to use up a weapon once during an entire playthrough before the rank up occured and I went on to get a more powerful weapon. I still agree the weapon choice is terrible though. it wasn't as fun as the first game. I'd say overall Dying light 2 is slightly worse than the first game. Some improvements are great, but other things drag it down way too much.
as for bows- I don't know how your bow was that weak. are you checking the ranks of enemies? if your going up against enemies that outrank your weapon, you won't kill them in one hit. Otherwise they go down in one or two shots, especially if you have archer gear equipped to maximize range damage.
Honestly, I wish the original creators got to keep working on it. From the first trailer leak, it got me amazed even after playing hours of DL1. The atmosphere, parkour, tools, everything got me so hyped. Then when I played it, I missed the old one. I despise the RPG combat with humans when some can take bombs and slashes, and the not so dark and frightening nights. There was so much potential, but everything got so messed up.
I do love this game, I just wish it got to stick with it's original style and story, not with whatever state it is in now.
TL;DR
Dying light 2 is good but some of the features from dl1 are missing and the story is somehow worse.
everything else is better or at least on par.
yeah i wouldn't say that about gore, physics, AI, weapon feedback, and attention to detail, also performance
Personally I do not feel like there was enough world change to the allocation of the water towers. They hyped it up before launch as "helping the PK's would lead to an authoritarian control of the city" and "helping the people would lead to other consequences" and you had to navigate this. In the end all we got were zip lines, traps that killed zombies, and giant pills that Aiden jumped on like the dude in Armageddon who "rode the nuke".
It's a fun game but almost entirely on gameplay alone. Only a few characters save it from being that.
First time I've seen one of your reviews. So in depth. Loved it. Keep up the great work.
Played this game a few days after launch on a PS4 slim. The cutscenes just wouldn’t work, for example the character that’s supposed to be talking wouldn’t move their mouth and there would be no subtitles. I finished the game without knowing what the story is.
I keep hearing mixed reports on whether the combat is better, worse or basically the same as DL1 and thats whats got me most concerned. On one hand it seems to have the same impact and feedback as the first game but I've heard people say they totally ruined it which would essentially be a deal breaker for me.
the only bad part about the combat is gore imo but techland said they're going to do a gore overhaul so the gore should be better
The combat abilities and moves in DL2? Incredible upgrades and it can really make things feel like a duel sometimes. But the actual weapon physics, collisions, and animations? Huuuuuge downgrade from the first. In the first game when you swung a machete, you really SWANG that bitch. It really felt like you're cleaving onto an enemy and you're just trying your best to slash with an actual weapon hit box. In the second one? It's feels like a pre-made animation is used for everything and the attack animation seems so Limp and hollow.
Human combat is great. In DL1 human combat was a pain because the NPC had near perfect reflexes. But zombie combat is bad in DL2 because there's no weight to melee attacks. Like he said, all weapons feel the same and the mods are very low effort. Personally, I love the modding system of Dead Island way more. It was so unique and there were many moving parts.
WHAT DID HE SAY ABOUT THE DYING LIGHT 1 SOUNDTRACK??? At 24:44
I totally agree with the illusion of choice and their marketing strategy. If it was just presented as a parkour game, i would have played it with less expection but they hyped the game so much that even though the game was good i kind of hated it in the end just because of the false marketing and tbh the level design was not good, when compared to DL1 , Most of the streets look similar like they copy pasted it and there are no memorable places, its just plain. I agree with most of the most points made and this is the most accurate review of DL2 i have seen.
False marketing no? The game that we got is the exact same from 2021 marketing which was the one that we got most information and actual gameplay. Also what you want them to do not hype up the game? And they bunch of memorial place for example fucking VNC tower
I really loved the opening area of the game, the first 2 hours. Just you vs the wilderness and infected trying to survive. It has that element that I am Legend movie had too. Imagine being in Villedor but being completely alone vs the entire city of infected, completely dark without UV hideouts only the ones you make yourselves in well hidden area. That kind of gameplay is what really strikes fear into me.
Glider stamina can easily be remedied by upgrading it at a craftmaster
12:33 WTF is he talking about, that doesn't make sense at all😂
Imma be honest. I loved the first game so much and after playing 50 hours of this one all I was left thinking at the end of it was “god, I wasted my money on this piece of shit.” Like there’s so much to dislike and it’s unfortunate because this was the one game I had actual faith in. Hopefully dlc fixes the game because this felt way too different from the first game
Literally a waste of money I'm embarrassed I pre ordered the platinum edition.
For me, I found the choice system as the worst part of DL2. I liked the story,
I really did wanna see what happened. When I beat my first run, I thought of other stuff for my second stuff. I sided with the PK's for my first run. I really wanted to see what would happen if I helped the survivors for my second run. I wanted to have nothing to do with the PK's. So, when I realized I still had to work for them, I felt so disappointed.
I'm gonna assume that the whole branching path was cut down drastically by the devs. Think about all the things you'd need to do. Plan multiple ways for enemies to be introduced. Multiple ways for tutorials to be shown. All the different side quests and things because of one thing.
I love the parkour, combat, and 2/3 of the story. But the choice system is the worst thing about it imo.
Once I saw the "make choice and influence the world" thing, I knew the story would be shallow and the choices wouldn't really matter, just like every other games that tries to do this. The combat also doesn't feel as good. The impact visuals and sounds are lacking, and it seems to rely more on handmade animations compared to physics and ragdolls in combat. The "bullet sponge" enemies from combat levels don't help either. Other than that, it's a fun enough game with the looting and parkour keeping it enjoyable for me.
I hate that the epilogue is literally the E3 gameplay. I hate the last 30 mins of the story since I though the part where you meet the colonel will be the part where renegade faction will be open. I hoped it does and there will be 10+ more hours in the story. But no sadly.
Discussed good points of the game! Good job!
The change to volatiles alone ruined the thrill.
I loved DL1's story: it had good characters, good pacing and plot twists that felt natural and right. DL2's story is simply chopped: it's obvious they had to cut entire parts of it (Avellone was fired during development) and things just happen out of the blue, for no apparent reason sometimes. The real highlight of DL2 is the gameplay, that is great. But story? It's pretty terrible, especially the final fight!
May I bring up when you pass out at the gre facility 2 people drag your ass across water and up a few flights onto the roof only to run away afraid he may turn ( IN BROUD DAYLIGHT MIGHT I ADD ) even after carrying him
I got this at release and played for maybe 15 hours before deciding I need to put it down for a while and give the Devs more time to improve it. I liked the world but felt like they'd gone in backwards direction with alot of the mechanics.
Edit: Has anyone played it since the recent updates and if so is it much better than launch?
You’re right DL2 isn’t a bad game. Forget the enormous amounts of bugs and the awful story, the issue is all of the promises made by Techland. We got a completely different game once it launched. False advertisement. You play through the awful story and when you come to the end nothing you did throughout the game ended up mattering. There is 0 payoff.
False advertising? Dude the game that we got are literally the one that they advertised in 2021
That right the one that we got an actual gameplay and the one that we got the most knowledgeable of the game lmao
The music in the first Dying Light was taken straight from a John Carpenter movie like Escape From New York and Christine.
This is an actual honest review!
My guy, when i run and the jungle like music comes on i just want to keep running and just want to keep hearing it i want a physical disc but i'm a boi so i can't
to me dying light 1 was fun because it was so different and dying light 2 felt the same
still fun for parkour an zombie but it wasn’t unique anymore
Yes you right 👌
The thing i HATE the most in this game is that in first game, i got used to jumping over zombies to get past them, because they stumble so easily, in this game however, zombies are literally an area, in which you get constant damage, and if you try to jump over them, you get stuck in the air for no reason, taking damage, unable to move. Its really annoying when you're roaming around, and then a zombie makes you stuck in the air, and you cant do nothing other than just die.
I don't think it should be that hard to make zombies behave like zombies, especially if they did it in last game perfectly.
And the zombie grab... dont even get me started on that. i didnt have a problem with that in the first game, but here its the worst mechanic possible
The story was so good but I think it was to short and I think it ended amazingly but I also was sad when It ended cause all of the ends were pretty sad and I almost cried that it ended
Is the option for capturing a water tower and selling the water on the Black Market still in the game? It was advertised during the E3 gameplay.
I liked Dying Light 1 more.
Some times less is more, and I think TECHLAND had too big ideas for Dying Light 2.
Look at Horizon Forbidden West, fx.
They took everything that worked from Zero Dawn and used it in Forbidden West.
You dont always have to start from scratch.
Its easy to say the first game is better when it's been out for 7 years with multiple updates and an expansion and tons and tons of dlc when dying light 2 is new. Dying light had time to get as good as it is
It not even start from scratch bro
My theory about the story being a bit odd now is that after Chris Avellone was laid off due to those allegations, a lot of stuff got rewritten sadly.
I can't say it's confirmed, but that's what I think happened.
Nope its confirmed
I think that Dying Light 2 is one of the best GAMES out there. I'm highlighting games because the moment to moment gameplay, exploring the city and doing activities is really fun and very addicting; especially once on higher levels. I went into GRE facilities at day on purpose for the challenge, I flew around the city at night catching special infected. And I had a blast doing that!
A lot of games now focus on how it's supposed to be a grounded experience, but they miss the part where they make the game a "game". Just seeing Hangar from Doom and the thank you note for id software really puts that into perspective. Doom isn't played for the story, it's for the intense gameplay, and Dying Light 2 really excels on that front and should be commended for it.
They really shouldn't have pushed how the story is amazing, because yeah, it's not the hottest sauce out there. There are interesting and engaging moments here and there, but some cutscenes are just cheese balls. But I still don't find it fair to judge the game in a more negative light because of it. Plus given how much support they've shown DL1 over the years, DL2 still has a lot of room to expand it's universe and gameplay, and I hope they show same if not more amount of love for the game over the time. Even if we take covid into consideration, while this game didn't release without it's share of issues, at least it was a fun, engaging and complete experience (unlikes games released by waaaay bigger studios which have a lot less features).
But here's my unpopular opinion. I am not fan of the choices. Precisely because I love the gameplay so much. Choosing one thing over the other can lead to missing out on some missions and experiences. At the start of the game I left Hakon to die, and in that I've missed the Lawan introduction mission, and the ending turned out to be less favorable. While I understand that this for "RePLaYaBiLitY rEaSoNS", but as someone who rarely replays a game, I'm missing out on content I'd enjoy.
Addendum: I guess you could say I believe the mission at the start of the game where you help Carlos with the electric fence is a great analogy for the game itself. While Techland tried to push the game to be all about the story and choices (which worked out as well as the goat), they made something that is incredibly fun when playing (the electric fence)
@Haxkarl hmm. Neither names sounds familiar and I don't know the situation, but I will look into this to learn more, thanks
What I also noticed is that unlike New Vegas, the game seems to have a preferred faction which has the best ending. I think it would’ve been interesting if there would’ve been more decisions that shaped the direction of the whole faction. The closest thing we get I think is when Jack asks you which version of PK propaganda sounds better, which doesn’t change anything about their faction however.
It's not a bad game but im disapointed with it... it was not worth preorder... and its defintely not worth the price its selling for right now imo... they have removed so much things that was so nice in the first one ... which makes non sens cuz its a 100% downgrade... so...
What do you mean it not 100 downgraded. I think it more of a upgrade parkour better, music are god tier, some of the skill that don’t make it dl2 are still there but now play with either different animation(names) or how it work(except for throwing weapon but for some reason I”m glad it gone) and there so many stuff I could mentions
I am really hoping we will get another modding community with a steam workshop menu for dying light two so people can build onto the game themselves like in the first game, that way we may have a chance to see the e3 gameplay trailers in action
Give it a year and we will see what happens because there are already very few .odes in the game.
No, dying light 2 was not awesome at all. It might look nice when you are outside somewhere high on the roofs but overall the experience is awful. Biggest mistake they made was the x-ray, what the hell? No game needs an x-ray unless you are an Predator from Aliens.
P.S
IGN and many other game reviewers are paid and bought bs.
Also definitely not worth 60 dollars.
the game was massively enjoyable although different from the first game. they changed up a bit to what their original vision for the first game was even if they werent exactly qualified for such. the gameplay is incredible, the story is passable and enjoyable at times, but it could use some work and time in the oven.
So what exactly do you think was so awful about the experience in particular?
Well I didnt really enjoy the first one either but compared to the first one, this was awful.
X-ray vision! X-RAY VISION! X-X-X
I said: "THAT'S NOT FUN!" 🤣🤣🤣
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So I went into a GRE facility once with a bunch of immunityboosters. I got there a bit late so by the time I got to the end it was daytime.
Day time becomes intense in there.
So intense, I found out you can fast travel from inside the facilities.
I never used stealth lol I just always used boosters and op weapons to just murder everything even volatiles
WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT THE DL1 SOUNDTRACK
Mostly agree, I thought the main story with Waltz needed more front seat, felt tacked on but a good concept. The story of Frank, Lawan and the return of the Nightrunners was cool and could have been fleshed out more, but:
- Barney was a great character, IMO. Well written and acted as an unlikable dude. WAAAAY more interesting than most of the character who felt bland and generic.
-silly sidequests were in DL1 and part of the quirky charm in that game. Problem is, in this game they somehow lack charm and there were too many compared to more serious ones that you feel needed to be done.
The biggest problem is not only the under deliver on consequences, but how the characters, even if affected, end up mostly all being disposable after that singular interaction. You save Aitor, you see him layer, then he is gone. Barnet would have made a great continued mini antagonist to have to deal with (like the spaz dude in days gone).
But none of them ultimately matter. They have their 15 min in the game and are done.
I thought barney was pretty boring
We already had decapitation and dismemberment with lots of blood in DL1. You could even use some weapons like axes or nail bats and take chunks off from zombies, leaving the thoracic cavity or other parts of the body like lower half exposed. Even cut them in two and see guts. You could mangle bodies even more in depth in 1 and the twitches after taking the head off was also there.
I was hoping something with Harran, like 15 years after, but harran is the only city, not some rando in the us, y’know? Still, I love it
i'll make this quick
i first dying light zombies could fall from ledges and when you broke their bones game was doing x-ray with slow motion
second game doesn't have those would seem BASIC features, even dead island had slow motion on bone breaking hits...
and it is supposed to be "next-gen" the better one...
and it's main hero get's suckerpunched almost every cutscene wich compared to crane who was a badass is lame - i don't want to play as a weak pathetic fool
idk if its just my system (My pc is a beast), but my main issue with the game is the parkour. I had no issues with DL1 (or any other games with parkour or climbing). In DL2 I mostly die from falling off building, missing ledges, or when jumping off buildings the roll animation isn't triggered. Parkour in fights do not work 90% of the time. Fighting at night is a grind and eventually boring. I don't mind the story and thought the vo acting was decent. I think it would be more appropriate to call the game Looting Hoarder in Zombie Land - since that's mostly all you do. Regarding Caesar in Fallout - I met him way too late in the game and I killed him (your not supposed to be able to at that part of the story) - this broke the game so I was never able to finish the game since my auto save happened right after I killed him.
You do know that you can repair the weapons with the upgrades right?