I always enjoy your enthusiasm and great content and you make it fun for all. I think that Forever Young will try to find a way out to the 12 path and run down Fierceness and Sierra Leone for the win.😊 Seriously I was surprised that no one mentioned the sloppy sealed track Arthur’s Ride won on or the effect of the short stretch on the race. I really like Forever Young as a key box in 1 and 2.
Forever young is the best horse in the race. He’s going to be very difficult to beat, even from the 1 post. His quality level is extremely underrated. The horse is smart. He knows exactly what it takes to win and he knows what his job is. Sierra Leone will come flying late because the pace to run into will be solid. That’s your exacta.
It’s seems like you have very good horse sense like me, I have been sing Forever Young for months now, and yes Sierra Leon will be flying late. Long story short I liked Forever Young for the Kentucky Derby and Sierra Leon then a few days before the derby I got a vision that Number 3 horse Mystic Dan won. If I was still a betting person I would have won a lot of money because I would surely put about $100 to win on Mystic Dan then box the extra and trifecta. When I used to bet I used to mainly bet on the big races because horses in those races mostly run true to form and so my striking rate is very high, sometimes my key horse dosent win but I still make some money because I box a lot of exacta and trifecta
Back in the 1980's went to Calder Race Track, with my son, Duane, he was not old enough to bet. He picked Jerry Bailey's horse at 18/1. Told him I could not use Jerry's horse. The horse won & I could never live it down.
@InTheMoneyMediaNetwork ty Peter, Jerry & randy as I love your expertise & I have followed you guys advice on horses for many years since zenyatta won her final race at breeders cup
Thought Process is a monster and will win that race. She’s been heavily geared down in her last 2. We don’t even know her potential yet. She’s likely going to be a star.
Come on City of Troy. I rode some work in Ballydoyle for the Late Legend Vincent O'Brien in the late 80s 2 or 3 times even though I came from a National Hunt Yard in Clonmel in County Tipperary just 12 min drive from Ballydoyle.I love watching the Breeders Cup.
@@ptfornatale loads fall. Kicks Bites nearly got my head pulled off, coming out of racing stalls in Mallow racetrack in Cork it is just called Cork now. We were putting one of our own through the stalls I was the Lightest in our yard so I got the job and I was so excited. When the stalls were about to open, I felt Sika, was her stable name. We would not call them by their racing name I could feel her lurching back in my mind I said here we go so I went with her, just then she ducked under the racing stalls before they opened with me in the saddle and nearly ripped my Skull Cap off I had a big red mark and few cuts but it was fun. The Horse in my avatar is Gala Field he had one eye, but boy could he jump, he had blinkers on when he raced but one eye had a patch over it his name was Gala Filed but we called him Mussie after Moshe Dayan who was an Israeli military leader and politician he had one eye also. but he wore a patch over his eye.
Interesting participation by both guests. I will not bet on Classic, but analyzing from angles is interesting in this 2024 Classic. About Fierceness, as long as Forever Young and/or Sierra L ran back to 90% of their Derby performance ( abnormal due to being interfered ), I figure they would finish in front of Fierceness. So why Fierceness may be the No. 1 favorite ?
Authors ride won the Whitney in the slop In the gold cup he actually had an easier pace Don't be surprised if mixto Next,city of troy, or some other horse ends up pushing the pace. City doesnt like dirt in his face. FY doesnt like dirt. Pace could be quicker Think anything under 47/1:11 and AR is toast JMO If it is a slow enough pace for AR to win, i think fiercness is with him
I love Randy, and we come to the same conclusion in the Classic, but the reason he doesn't like the word bounce is because it's colloquially misused. Sheets players don't misuse the term. I get his comparison, but it proves the fundamental misunderstanding that many people have. A bounce doesn't mean you got bad results. Read that again: a bounce doesn't mean you got bad results. A bounce simply means, nothing more nothing less, that a horse regressed more than 4 points off their top effort. Horses can still beat fields with a bounce if the field isn't good enough to beat them. You can't beat your own personal best in golf by shooting under your lifetime best. It's kind of apples and wrenches. The reason the bounce matters is because horses are not machines and the patterns in which they run are often predictable. When you master the bounce, and it's hard, you see what others don't in what makes a horse likely to run well or not run well to their personal standard in a particular race.
I'm going with Arthur's ride he'll be at a price he could be the fastest mile and a quarter horse in our nation. It's frieders cup day I got to go with the price
I love to watch horse race on tv! I love horses they are loveable; warmth; caring; i detest Animal Cruelty! Animals Have Rights Also! I am watching it October/November 2024😢😢😢😢😢😢
@@JoannaNunescurto Same here. I love the sport but there are some trainers who treat the horses like money machines and keep them drugged up. Way too much drugs, and WWE shenanigans.. There needs to be a national czar, someone like Nick Zito who understands racing but has compassion.
Amazing how people are picking Arthurs Ride, when Highland Falls absolutely DESTROYED him last time from the get go. Brad Cox horses almost never regress. If you go back and watch jockey club, Highland Falls DESTROYED Arthur,and all the horses didnt gain an inch on him late...
This is City of Troy last race before he goes to stud and Aidan thinks he's the best horse he's ever trained and Ryan Moore believes this horse is very special has a huge engine.
@@ptfornatale Will COT be The 1st Turf Euro Who Never Ran on a Dirt to Ship Over and be The Favorite in The Classic?...In General That Would Sound Nuts Right?
Top horses in the classic the 12 horse the 14 horse the seven horse and the five horse there's no Laurel River in this race the best smile on quarter horse in the world so guess what those are the four best horse contenders for the breeders cup classic cut it and print it!!
I'm hoping fir City if Troy. If he can get into his rhythm, he will win because he has by far the best closing speed. As much as i like Fierceness, he had a perfect trip in the Traverse, and Thorpedo Anna was making up ground with every stide because Fierceness was actually fading. I agree totally with the Arthur's Ride analysis and I'd love to see Bill Mott win it. It's really a loaded field.
The home straight is too short for horses with late kick to peg back the front runners hence Tesoro SL Tapit Trice and Forever Young will find it difficult to win as the home stretch of 825 feet is far too short for those horses hence City of Troy Fierceness Highland Falls and Navigate will have the edge as horses in front all in all City of Troy has all the pluses in his favor his minus is the track end of story
I'm going $50 Highland Falls to win. $50 Arthur's Ride to place. Or vice versa. That's where I see value. Prediction: Arthurs Ride will go off at 9-1, Highland Falls at 12-1. If all horses were 10-1 I'd bet Fierceness. But he'll be closer to 2-1. Sierra Leone has ran better every time out. Can he improve again? I say no....but if he does.... he's got a great chance to win. Lots of good horses in this race. A guy has gotta throw some out. One I'll toss, is City Of Troy. Next has won 7 in a row and has won by ridiculous margins. Just watched some of his races. In a 1 3/8 race, he ran 1 1/4 in 2.01 and change, and ran the last 1/8 mile in just over 12 seconds. Yikes. That's a heckuva final 1/8 after going 1 1/4 in decent time. He suddenly got interesting for me. Wow, what a race this is gonna be! So hard to handicap!!!!
Are you new to racing ? Have u seen the fractions of the races between the 2....next is racing in grade 2-3s with very slow pace,we won't mention terrible competition and 4 horse fields
You can listen to all these comments all day long till the cows come home......does not give a punter any real points.....some people are full of it...let's get to the classic where true royalty will stand above the rest......
Domestic Product is a 3 yo running vs older going back to 2 -turns(not his strong suit). He should be 20-1...he beat Prince of Monaco last time and Baffert opts to run Muth. Nope...
Lot of bull about cot,if you are serious bring the horse to the USA couple of months in advance and train him dirt ,give him a race on dirt with nobodies get him fit for the maiin event. Dr Nasir Fazal Cambridge USA
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I always enjoy your enthusiasm and great content and you make it fun for all. I think that Forever Young will try to find a way out to the 12 path and run down Fierceness and Sierra Leone for the win.😊 Seriously I was surprised that no one mentioned the sloppy sealed track Arthur’s Ride won on or the effect of the short stretch on the race. I really like Forever Young as a key box in 1 and 2.
Randy n Jerry. Great knowledge, to even make them better they genuinely are friends. 👌✌️🙏
Forever young is the best horse in the race. He’s going to be very difficult to beat, even from the 1 post. His quality level is extremely underrated. The horse is smart. He knows exactly what it takes to win and he knows what his job is. Sierra Leone will come flying late because the pace to run into will be solid. That’s your exacta.
It’s seems like you have very good horse sense like me, I have been sing Forever Young for months now, and yes Sierra Leon will be flying late. Long story short I liked Forever Young for the Kentucky Derby and Sierra Leon then a few days before the derby I got a vision that Number 3 horse Mystic Dan won. If I was still a betting person I would have won a lot of money because I would surely put about $100 to win on Mystic Dan then box the extra and trifecta. When I used to bet I used to mainly bet on the big races because horses in those races mostly run true to form and so my striking rate is very high, sometimes my key horse dosent win but I still make some money because I box a lot of exacta and trifecta
After the race I will be singing “Forever Young,
Forever Young,
Yes I want to be Forever Young.”
@@gsaarchitecturalmechanical5872Forever Young was ALL OUT to beat the average book em danno. He's not even best Japanese horse
I like forever young and Arthur's ride. I'm glad you guys do too. I thought I was reaching. love the video
Jerry Bailey, I have been waiting for you to come back for many hours in past 10 days.
Nice seeing you again.
tune into nbc and see a lot more!
Great analysis guys, enjoy watching you!
thanks for watching!
Great show! Randy and Jerry are the best!
By far the best bc update show what a pair gotta love Randy an JD
Best tandem in 🏇 racing ⭐
Always a pleasure to have them
Back in the 1980's went to Calder Race Track, with my son, Duane, he was not old enough to bet. He picked Jerry Bailey's horse at 18/1. Told him I could not use Jerry's horse. The horse won & I could never live it down.
Excellent analysis always love sharp content
Love Post Time :)
Great show guys I love forever young
That real steal seems like the real deal with storm cat on the bottom.
Seira leone ! 🔥😊
Fantastic as usual! Thanks!
@InTheMoneyMediaNetwork ty Peter, Jerry & randy as I love your expertise & I have followed you guys advice on horses for many years since zenyatta won her final race at breeders cup
Thanks for your support!
Good job guys❤
I was going with Arthur's Ride, but sfter listening to Randy's ringing endorsement, I'm going with Next
And why is Arthur's Ride better than highland falls who DESTROYED him last time..?
@@marklewen9384 I think the belief is Arthurs Ride's best is better, and the pace setup of the race favors him.
@@Mikeymo2385 why does the pace scenario favor him??? Highland Falls was even with him the whole race,and blew his doors off....NOPE
Thought Process is a monster and will win that race. She’s been heavily geared down in her last 2. We don’t even know her potential yet. She’s likely going to be a star.
Come on City of Troy. I rode some work in Ballydoyle for the Late Legend Vincent O'Brien in the late 80s 2 or 3 times even though I came from a National Hunt Yard in Clonmel in County Tipperary just 12 min drive from Ballydoyle.I love watching the Breeders Cup.
very cool! You must have some good stories.
@@ptfornatale loads fall. Kicks Bites nearly got my head pulled off, coming out of racing stalls in Mallow racetrack in Cork it is just called Cork now. We were putting one of our own through the stalls I was the Lightest in our yard so I got the job and I was so excited. When the stalls were about to open, I felt Sika, was her stable name. We would not call them by their racing name I could feel her lurching back in my mind I said here we go so I went with her, just then she ducked under the racing stalls before they opened with me in the saddle and nearly ripped my Skull Cap off I had a big red mark and few cuts but it was fun. The Horse in my avatar is Gala Field he had one eye, but boy could he jump, he had blinkers on when he raced but one eye had a patch over it his name was Gala Filed but we called him Mussie after Moshe Dayan who was an Israeli military leader and politician he had one eye also. but he wore a patch over his eye.
Sierra Leone is due 😒
Two of the best in this race? Forever young/city fans
@@jimmy.peralta too slow out of gate, he'd have to wake up like Secretariat to have a chance!! Speed does hold at Del Mar, it always did.
2-Highland Falls, 14-Next, 1-Forever Young, #7 horse Japan.
Interesting participation by both guests.
I will not bet on Classic, but analyzing from angles is interesting in this 2024 Classic.
About Fierceness, as long as Forever Young and/or Sierra L ran back to 90% of their Derby performance ( abnormal due to being interfered ), I figure they would finish in front of Fierceness. So why Fierceness may be the No. 1 favorite ?
Number 11 for me
Awesome
Arthur's ride wire to wire🏇
Authors ride won the Whitney in the slop
In the gold cup he actually had an easier pace
Don't be surprised if mixto Next,city of troy, or some other horse ends up pushing the pace. City doesnt like dirt in his face. FY doesnt like dirt. Pace could be quicker
Think anything under 47/1:11 and AR is toast
JMO
If it is a slow enough pace for AR to win, i think fiercness is with him
“And Senor Buscador is coming like an express train down the center”
I love Fierceness but I think it’s between Troy & Forever Young in the classic. I’m on the Japanese warrior to get his revenge for the Derby.
I love Randy, and we come to the same conclusion in the Classic, but the reason he doesn't like the word bounce is because it's colloquially misused. Sheets players don't misuse the term. I get his comparison, but it proves the fundamental misunderstanding that many people have. A bounce doesn't mean you got bad results. Read that again: a bounce doesn't mean you got bad results. A bounce simply means, nothing more nothing less, that a horse regressed more than 4 points off their top effort. Horses can still beat fields with a bounce if the field isn't good enough to beat them. You can't beat your own personal best in golf by shooting under your lifetime best. It's kind of apples and wrenches. The reason the bounce matters is because horses are not machines and the patterns in which they run are often predictable. When you master the bounce, and it's hard, you see what others don't in what makes a horse likely to run well or not run well to their personal standard in a particular race.
Arthur’s ride reminds me of blame, although the Career number was in the slop
highland Falls destroyed him last time...and Cox horses rarely regress
Let us not forget sierra Leon's jocket hit forever young in his face coming to wire which I believe cost him the race.
I'm going with Arthur's ride he'll be at a price he could be the fastest mile and a quarter horse in our nation. It's frieders cup day I got to go with the price
I love to watch horse race on tv! I love horses they are loveable; warmth; caring; i detest Animal Cruelty! Animals Have Rights Also! I am watching it October/November 2024😢😢😢😢😢😢
@@JoannaNunescurto Same here. I love the sport but there are some trainers who treat the horses like money machines and keep them drugged up. Way too much drugs, and WWE shenanigans.. There needs to be a national czar, someone like Nick Zito who understands racing but has compassion.
Watch out for our South African stars
Isivungugu
And beach bomb
Has anybody heard who Matt Bernier picks are?
Luis Saez will ride #2-Highland Falls on the lead with Arthur's Ride.
Betting on the owner Godolphin. They love winning these big races
Amazing how people are picking Arthurs Ride, when Highland Falls absolutely DESTROYED him last time from the get go. Brad Cox horses almost never regress.
If you go back and watch jockey club, Highland Falls DESTROYED Arthur,and all the horses didnt gain an inch on him late...
My long shot pick, out of The Mighty Curlin!!
The Classic Arther’s Ride. You guys like him, does it bother you at all that he’s not as seasoned ?
Or that he is untalented .
This is City of Troy last race before he goes to stud and Aidan thinks he's the best horse he's ever trained and Ryan Moore believes this horse is very special has a huge engine.
Do not leave out derma satogagi or what ever,, Sierra Leone over forever young , arthurs ride, bafferts horse, derma saratogagi, n a big longshot
Lock of The Weekend Guys...Sierra Leone is Going to ROLL in The Classic....Write This on Your Hand so You Dont Forget
I can't see it personally but plenty of smart people agree with you.
@@ptfornatale Will COT be The 1st Turf Euro Who Never Ran on a Dirt to Ship Over and be The Favorite in The Classic?...In General That Would Sound Nuts Right?
Aidan's not nuts. His nuts are on the line!! @@EasyGoer-e3z
LAST RACE OF THE CARD BET - HANG THE MOON ON THE TURF. 10-1 . YOUR WELCOME!!
I don't think that's the last race but she's live to hit the board.
Ok I'll bang $1000 on it, where do you live if it gets beat?
Will the Real CITY OF TROY ! please stand up .
I think we know he's great on turf but dirt another matter!
@@ptfornatale History BOOKS 📚 there to be broken 💔.
When u golf, you aren't exerting energy, etc. Horses bounce because of extreme exertion used during a race and often coming back to the races too soon
ravens pass was also a turf horse from europe
He won the FAKE CLASSIC(Synthetic)...NOPE.
@@marklewen9384 oops forgot.
I'm going with the forgotten invader Derma Sotogake for the win over Fierceness & Ushba Tesoro to place
Derma has had a weird year but he has talent.
Top horses in the classic the 12 horse the 14 horse the seven horse and the five horse there's no Laurel River in this race the best smile on quarter horse in the world so guess what those are the four best horse contenders for the breeders cup classic cut it and print it!!
Forever Young is gonna win the breeders cup classic
Look ..at those PUMPKIN 🎃 HEADS
I'm hoping fir City if Troy. If he can get into his rhythm, he will win because he has by far the best closing speed. As much as i like Fierceness, he had a perfect trip in the Traverse, and Thorpedo Anna was making up ground with every stide because Fierceness was actually fading. I agree totally with the Arthur's Ride analysis and I'd love to see Bill Mott win it. It's really a loaded field.
Ryan Moore absolutely class ride didn't panic shows what a champion he is no other jockey would have won that race
Like Newgate too. :)
Kilwin is way faster than Thought Process
The home straight is too short for horses with late kick to peg back the front runners hence Tesoro SL Tapit Trice and Forever Young will find it difficult to win as the home stretch of 825 feet is far too short for those horses hence City of Troy Fierceness Highland Falls and Navigate will have the edge as horses in front all in all City of Troy has all the pluses in his favor his minus is the track end of story
I'm going $50 Highland Falls to win. $50 Arthur's Ride to place. Or vice versa. That's where I see value. Prediction: Arthurs Ride will go off at 9-1, Highland Falls at 12-1. If all horses were 10-1 I'd bet Fierceness. But he'll be closer to 2-1. Sierra Leone has ran better every time out. Can he improve again? I say no....but if he does.... he's got a great chance to win. Lots of good horses in this race. A guy has gotta throw some out. One I'll toss, is City Of Troy. Next has won 7 in a row and has won by ridiculous margins. Just watched some of his races. In a 1 3/8 race, he ran 1 1/4 in 2.01 and change, and ran the last 1/8 mile in just over 12 seconds. Yikes. That's a heckuva final 1/8 after going 1 1/4 in decent time. He suddenly got interesting for me. Wow, what a race this is gonna be! So hard to handicap!!!!
Best of luck in all your wagers!
I don't see highland being under 18-1
Sierra Leone will be farther back and will be coming like a semi on the outside
Hanging mutt...Leone isn't as good as senior buscador.
I wish Tyler galfalone was on Sierra Leone but Sierra Leone will be 1st or 2nd forever young n derma saratoga
Randy and Jerry will lose their money on Arthur's ride
If Contested at all on Lead i Agree....Uncontested Who Knows and This is Del Mar Which Aids Front Running Styles
Not sure why you guys think Arthur is going to get an easy lead with Next to his outside. Probably won't happen.
We will see how it plays out!
Are you new to racing ? Have u seen the fractions of the races between the 2....next is racing in grade 2-3s with very slow pace,we won't mention terrible competition and 4 horse fields
@@magapatriot3740 How do Think Next Will Perform?
@@EasyGoer-e3zMaybe an exacta box with Arthur’s Ride.
@@DavidHamburg-i5d Maybe...This Field is FILLED With Such Interesting Horses
Forever Young and Next on top for me, I will use Fierceness, Arthurs Ride and Newgate on the bottom.
Godspeed my friend!
O’Brien 0/17 in BC Classic. ‘Nuff said.
Since you guys did so good on Friday, maybe we should continue to listen? haha doubt it. GARBAGE!!!
You can listen to all these comments all day long till the cows come home......does not give a punter any real points.....some people are full of it...let's get to the classic where true royalty will stand above the rest......
Domestic Product is a 3 yo running vs older going back to 2 -turns(not his strong suit). He should be 20-1...he beat Prince of Monaco last time and Baffert opts to run Muth. Nope...
Next will just gallop them into submission. Drosselmeyer 2.0
Lot of bull about cot,if you are serious bring the horse to the USA couple of months in advance and train him dirt ,give him a race on dirt with nobodies get him fit for the maiin event.
Dr Nasir Fazal Cambridge USA
They had originally said Travers but think they decided he had something to prove on turf still
Aidan Wants to Win The Classic Directly From Overseas to Make it Appear Even That Much More Impressive
Sierra Leon..not at the finish..not in the money.
Just give me the script jerome...
Zenyatta lost her final race in BC. Can thank Mike smith fot that.
Nope...PERFECT ride,wasn't good enough ..
Garrett Gomez (RIP) gave Blame the perfect ride , imo
COT will go to the front and after 10 furlongs the race will be over, the rest will be toiling in his wake.
Check their picks over the years and you'll find their very rarely right! I check their picks and then eliminate those horses.
A second that emotion
Del Mar
Friday
1st=5
2nd=1-3-4-6
3rd=5
4th=4-3
5th=1
6th=10-1
7th=3-10-9
8th=12-7
9th=1-5
10th=12-10-4
Del Mar
Saturday
1st=6
2nd=2-3-4
3rg=2-3
4th=9-10
5th=6-7
6th=2-6
7th=11-2-3
8th=3-1
9th=3
10th=10-8
11th=6-2
12th=10-9
Randy yr going to regret going off yr pick frm awhile ago.
Who doesn't?
PTF’s voice is very “hoarse” 🐴 lol
LOL terrible week to lose my voice I know.
Question why doesn't America race their horses on grass? Most natural and forgiving ground for horse/racehorse?
A baffled European 🤔
People are touting these 3 yos...What have they done?? These 3yos haven't run a race vs older horses yet,and are basically over rated GARBAGE...
he should stop talking