Once Saved Always Saved? Part 3 of 3 | S4E14 - The Authentic Christian Podcast

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  • Опубликовано: 19 янв 2025

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  • @v-campsportsleague6263
    @v-campsportsleague6263 Год назад +7

    Authentic Christian Podcast is so underrated and that’s not shame on the panel but shame on the WORLD 🌍!

  • @Seekingchristdaily
    @Seekingchristdaily Год назад +10

    I always say it might be true that nobody can snatch us out of our father’s hand (John 10:29) but it doesn’t say we can’t walk away on our own.

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      Can a BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN EVER BE COME,,, UN ..BORN AGAIN AFTER HE WAS BORN AGAIN............ Will Jesus Chist ever, un ,redeem his own ? WILL God ever put his children and PROBATION ? If you are BRAVE ENOUGH GET BACK TO ME PLEASE , UNTILL YOU DO OSAS IS THE DNA OF GOD ALL MIGHTY PROVE ME WRONG

    • @msskylark1
      @msskylark1 6 месяцев назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 ….you didn’t make a statement, you asked questions! Yes you can “be saved” but “walk away” and “be unsaved”. Being saved is never a permanent thing, it depends on you.

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      I FEEL VERY SORRY FOR YOU ON JUDGEMENT DAY

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      ITS IM POSSIBLE TO WALK A WAY FROM BEING REDEEMED TRUST JESUS ONLY FOOL

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      I ASKED U ABOUT REDEMPTION AND YOU IGNORED ME BECAUSE U ARE A WORKER AND NOT A BELIEVER AND TRUSTER IN JESUS CHRIST U WANT TO BE GOING TO HEAVEN YOUR WAY AND YOU KNOW IT

  • @RichardAllen-nr4hj
    @RichardAllen-nr4hj Год назад +3

    Great Job Gents.

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      WHERE DID JESUS CHRIST SAY YOU CAN LOSE YOUR SALVATION? JOHN CH 3 VS 16 SAYS THE OPPISIT Jesus Christ does not lie period

  • @monicamailman3796
    @monicamailman3796 9 месяцев назад +1

    Our grand Creator deserves respect. No respect means cutting off. Its not once saved always saved. You have to follow His rules. Its just respect.

    • @msskylark1
      @msskylark1 9 месяцев назад +1

      Once saved always saved is a lie, and false teaching.

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      MONICA Please tell every one how JESUS CHRIST WILL EVER ,, UN,, REDEEM HIS OWN AFTER HE ,,,,,HAS,,,, REDEEMED THEM ? PLEASE ,Monica can A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN EVER BECOME... UN.... BORN AGAIN ? Now you know OSAS IS THE DNA OF GOD ALL MIGHTY THREW JESUS CHRIST His SON
      What are you going to do now ?

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      READ JOHN CH 3 VS 16 Then tell that to Jesus Christ he DOES NOT GIVE EVER LASTING LIFE HE SAYS HE DOES. OSAS IS THE DNA OF GOD ALL MIGHTY.

    • @monicamailman3796
      @monicamailman3796 6 месяцев назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 we are forgiven of our sins, but if we return to those sins, like a dog to vomit, then there's no redemption left. Love for our savior comes with the stipulation that you learn to live a better life.
      You aren't cleared of future sins, you are forgiven for past sins!

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      So do you punch in your time clock every dayfor your salvation bring a lunch? Itrust jesus christ alone i DONT HAVE TO WORK 4 MY SALVATION IM VERY VERY LAZY

  • @monicamailman3796
    @monicamailman3796 9 месяцев назад +1

    Why does the lords prayer suggests that we need his kingdom on earth as it is in heaven. I look forward to seeing the kingdom on earth.

  • @joanbraunberger9705
    @joanbraunberger9705 8 месяцев назад +2

    We are are called sons and daughters of God when we accept His gift of salvation. We are born into the Family of God. One cannot be unborn from a family.

    • @bradzimmerman3171
      @bradzimmerman3171 8 месяцев назад

      The Christian bible is the first Comic Book 📖 that part is true,it’s hilarious and should not be taken seriously

    • @joanbraunberger9705
      @joanbraunberger9705 8 месяцев назад +1

      Interesting….what is hilarious about it?

    • @monicamailman3796
      @monicamailman3796 6 месяцев назад

      @@joanbraunberger9705 tell that to the royal family! Lol

    • @joanbraunberger9705
      @joanbraunberger9705 6 месяцев назад

      @@monicamailman3796 tell what to the royal family? No matter what they have done they are still part of the family. Cast out, disinherited whatever but they still have the same parents and siblings. Yeah?

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      Eternity is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to long to be RONG Brad but its your soul

  • @sareenamorrow4150
    @sareenamorrow4150 Год назад +1

    Excellent episode as always!! 😊❤📖🎧

  • @keneshahollis1048
    @keneshahollis1048 Год назад

    Hebrews 6:4-6

  • @DannyLoyd
    @DannyLoyd Год назад +1

    Gal 5:4 says you can FALL FROM GRACE, if you fall from grace, will you still be saved? and you can't fall from something that you weren't in.

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      Can a born again Christian become, UN. REDEEMED BYJESUS CHRIST ...AFTER,, HE HAS REDEEMED THEM ? Not possible,,,,,,,,, Lean not on your own understanding to your OWN DISTRUCTION . OSAS IS THE DNA OF GOD ALL MIGHTY

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      CAN a Christian EVER BE UN REDEEED ?

    • @JimiSurvivor
      @JimiSurvivor 4 дня назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 UN-redeemed is not a Biblical word in the sense of redemption being REVERSED. The Bible never uses nor affirms the meaning of this word which YOU yourself invented. The Bible does state that many of those who are redeemed by the blood and delivered from the world will not ultimately make it into the Promise.
      11 Now these things (the trials and temptations in the wilderness that) happened to them as EXAMPLES and were written down as WARNINGS for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come. 12So the one who thinks he is standing firm should be careful not to fall.
      (1 Corinthians 10:11-12)
      He was teaching us that the redeemed can be delivered by the blood from wickedness only to FALL afterward. This directly refutes the proposition you have brought up.

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 4 дня назад

      JIMI all you workers for salvation are going to be shocked when you stand before JESUS CHRIST and HE tales you TO DEPART FROM HIM HE NEVER KNEW YOU ,Because HE KNOWS who TRUSTS HIM ALONE and who think they have to Help Jesus Crhist, because to them His Blood that was shed for them PERSONALY wasnt good enough for them .I feel bad for you JIMI

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 4 дня назад

      Jimi can you ever be UN BORN out of your family ? Does your dads DNA LEAVE YOUR BODY IF YOU STOPTED BELIVING HE WAS YOUR DAD? You need to think about your ETERNITY

  • @sshumkaer
    @sshumkaer Год назад

    Isn't the real answer just this, it's complicated?

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      NOPE A Christian will NEVER BE UN REDEEMED

    • @sshumkaer
      @sshumkaer 6 месяцев назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 I never said that

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      @@sshumkaerOK SORRY

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад +1

      I have been talking to alot of workers for their salavation

    • @sshumkaer
      @sshumkaer 6 месяцев назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 nice, how's that going

  • @riseandshine4jesus846
    @riseandshine4jesus846 Год назад

    Jude 4
    For there are certain men crept in unawares,who were before old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
    I looked up-
    (denying in the Greek 720) - to contradict
    So in Jude 4 it would say , and contradicting the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ also looked up
    (lasciviousness 766)- licentiousness- morally unrestrained
    That describes the OSAS doctrine of demons , just say a prayer and your eternally secure 4- ever , lie from the pit of hell!
    Much love ❤️💍✈️💕

  • @simonskinner1450
    @simonskinner1450 Год назад

    I liked the Freudian Slip, "Judaism", instead of "Christianity". The truth is Judaism, not by the letter but by faith, the religion grafted into was Judaism of the Jew. The blood of Christ established the religion of Moses in heaven, not a new religion of Christianity, but the original religion of Abraham, amended by Moses and modified to allow forgiveness.
    Good work gentlemen as sanctification has to happen after baptism, though all you do is read the truth without fear and favour, against vested and invested interests who do not love the truth.

  • @markrobertsministries
    @markrobertsministries Год назад +1

    You both are teaching horrendous errors in the word of God. I believe you are sincere but its absolutely bad doctrine. One of the biggest mistakes you both make is quoting Hebrews,James and the gospels for doctrine applying directly to the body of Christ. Many passages you quoted are written to the nation of Israel. There were periods of time when salvation could be lost and will be again in the tribulation period. In the dispensation of the grace of God Paul absolutely taught eternal security. If you truly accept and believe the gospel you cannot lose your salvation. Even if you lose faith. You are sealed unto the day of redepemtion.God abides faithful even if a mans faith is overthrown. Its dangerous doctrine.
    You will lose reward at the judgement seat etc. for poor service and also reap what you sew here on earrh. But not lose salvation.When paul said shipwreck he didnt mean lose salvation. Not at all. The bald man continued to quote verses either out of context or written to Israel. If your going to have a podcast you need to understand how to interpret the bible correctly. It was quite frankly horrendous.

  • @tomsimpson197
    @tomsimpson197 Год назад +1

    when you do what a denomination does what makes you different???

    • @evano8312
      @evano8312 Год назад

      Can you elaborate

    • @tomsimpson197
      @tomsimpson197 Год назад

      @@evano8312 Revelation 22:18 tells us not to add or take away anything written in the book. When someone adds sunday school that wasn't even invented until 1760 when they add multiple cups and crakers to the communion which wern't invented until 1890 isn't that the same things denominations do? Ecclesiastes 7:29 says God made man upright but the started doing many inventions or schemes. Don't follow anyone until you can prove everything in the Bible. Just read and study and do everything exactly like the apostles did.

  • @kathleenwharton2139
    @kathleenwharton2139 Год назад

    Jesus Said..”Love and Bless your enemies”. You don’t want to block Gods Love from yourself and others. 😊❤

  • @Tacticaladdict
    @Tacticaladdict 7 дней назад

    If you believe you can "quit" salvation. Then you dont have eternal life. You had temporary life.
    Salvation is eternal, not temporary.
    Btw calvinism is based on performance, not grace.

  • @mikelyons2831
    @mikelyons2831 Год назад +1

    I'm not a Calvinist. Personally, I consider Michael Heiser's view of "Whoever Believes", that the word "Believes" is continuous. Therefore, the only criteria is "Believing" (of course that's saving faith true Belief that Jesus can & will save you).
    Not WORKS/PERFORMANCE, just simple belief. So we're given the story of the "Prodigal Son" (by Jesus Himself) that said, what line do you have to cross to loose your salvation. If you are teaching you can (loose your salvation) shouldn't you be telling us how or who looses theirs?

    • @sshumkaer
      @sshumkaer Год назад +1

      Are you looking for example?
      King David would be an example. He was in God's grace and truly saved, but fail away with the Affair of a married woman who was also pregnant from him, plus committed murder.
      It was gravies enough that Kind David sought God out for forgiveness as he repented. The story has the Adam and Eve sound to it.
      Notice in your Bible God already knows what David has done. So much so he tells David had he just asked for it he would of given it to him, but instead he took from what wasn't his.
      The end game here is had David not sought forgiveness, with what the Bible teaches we would have expected him not to have been saved. But because he did come back to God in his time of need, we believe he is Saved thus in Heaven.

    • @mikelyons2831
      @mikelyons2831 Год назад +2

      @@sshumkaer Interesting take. Personally, I don't see David having stopped believing in God. I don't believe we keep/maintain our salvation by works or performance... only by believing, otherwise it is no more grace.

  • @JoeyWilliams-t2l
    @JoeyWilliams-t2l Год назад

    Jude 21

  • @jjphank
    @jjphank Год назад

    God wants all men to be saved first Timothy 2:4, second peter 3:9!
    God, predestines groups or plurals only, never individuals. Ephesians 1 -2 points: “ us and we” are pre-destined never “you and I“! And 11 times in 11 verses from 3-14 you have to remain “in Christ“ (in him, in whom) to be predestined!
    Romans 9:1-3 Paul is talking about the nation of Israel, all the way to the end of chapter 11 ! So, “Jacob, I loved, Esau I hated“ is genesis 25:23 “there are two nations in your womb“! It’s talking about ‘Nations,’ not individuals in the whole context of those three chapters! Stop taking it out of context, along with Ephesians 1!
    Of course, we have the story of Jacob and Esau and how Esau despised his birthright !
    So God truly does love all people, he truly did make hell for the devil and his angels just as Matthew 25:41 says !
    Even the 42 youths, mauled by the 2 bears, was because they mocked Elijah‘s rapture, a.k.a. the resurrection , they were saying “go on up Baldy “ ; and ALL their prophets just recently Were killed by Elijah and they should’ve known to stop worshiping Baal! Bethel was the headquarters of Baal worship, where this took place! 490 priests got killed by Elijah, There was no Priests around,; should’ve been a gigantic clue.
    So God never arbitrarily and haphazardly deals with any human being ! His love cannot be measured says Romans 8!
    But if you’re a Calvinist, it’s “his love cannot be measured , (Wink, wink)“!
    Come out of the false belief system of Calvinism ! Now you have no excuse because you cannot out argue this, let’s hear you try!
    Read Matthew 25 the parable of the Calvinists, a.k.a. talents ! Where the guy buried his talent calling God,- somebody who doesn’t judge rightly & he was thrown into hell as a result! He had the wrong view of God, & So Will a Calvinist, they’ll have a callous view of God & The love of Christs sacrificial death on the cross!

  • @DW-yl9ww
    @DW-yl9ww Год назад +1

    yes it is called departing from the faith

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      CAN A BORN A GAIN CHRISTIAN BE COME ,,,,,UN,,,, BORN AGAIN

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      It should be Called Trusting Jesus Christ ONLY FOR SALVATION PERIOD HOWS THAT WORKER ? dont boast on your self. I love to boast on my REDEEMER The Lord Jesus Christ HE GETS ALL MY PRAISE.He will not tell ME TO DEPART FROM HIM HE NEVER KNEW ME .

    • @DW-yl9ww
      @DW-yl9ww 6 месяцев назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 YES WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO FALL AWAY FROM THE LIVING GOD? WHAT ARE ALL THE WARNINGS ABOUT FALLING AWAY FOR? Hebrews 3:12-14 Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God. 13 But exhort one another every day, as long as it is called “today,” that none of you may be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have come to share in Christ, if indeed we hold our original confidence firm to the end.

    • @DW-yl9ww
      @DW-yl9ww 6 месяцев назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 DOES GOD FORCE SALVATION PERMANENTLY ON YOU? DO YOU LOSE FREE WILL WHEN YOU ARE SAVED? CAN ONE DEPART FROM THE FAITH? 1 Timothy 4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 4 дня назад

      You cant depart from your dads DNA ,NOW have a good day and TRUST JESUS CHRIST ONLY FOR SALVATION

  • @jjphank
    @jjphank Год назад +2

    OSAS- 3 verses in the Bible say your name can be blotted out of the book of life; Psalm 69:28, revelation 3:5, 22:19!
    Never receiving Jesus is not the only way to go to hell Says Matthew 7:21-23 ; verse 23 ‘away from me I never knew you’ does not apply to everybody, Jesus says this twice in verses 21 and 22! “Not everyone will say to me (on that day)……., yes many will say…..” If OSAS was true he would’ve said “everyone and all” instead of “not everyone and Many”! So not everyone will go to hell based on never knowing Jesus, and other verses will back this up as well! you can no longer use Matthew 7:23 to say they were never saved to begin with!
    Same with 2 Peter 2 “after knowing the Lord, they went back into their vomit as a dog; or back into the mud as a pig wallowing in the mud”. The word ‘knowing’ is the same word in Matthew 7:23, it’s ‘ginosko’ in the Greek- it’s a salvific relationship with Jesus! So you can lose your salvation, says this verse as well!
    2 Peter 2:20 “If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning!”
    THEY ARE ENTANGLED IN THE CORRUPTION OF THE WORLD…AGAIN- says this verse! Jude 12 - “twice dead”; Dead in sin, born again, dead again!
    And there’s many more; Revelation chapters 2 & 3 are full of ultimatums and all Jesus is focused on is our works!
    Revelation 2: 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place!
    Revelation 2:14 there are some among you….. 16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
    These are just 2 and Jesus says “he who overcomes” , Overcomes is present active- future tense, and Jesus says this to all 7 churches, even the 2 good ones! You have to stay faithful to the end of your life to go to heaven!
    John 3:16 is he who believes, or continues to believe will have eternal life! it doesn’t say ‘believed’ past tense, you have to maintain your faith to go to heaven!
    The Greek word ‘believes’ is ‘Pistis’ which basically means faithfulness so faith equals faithfulness, according to the Bible!
    So if you have problems with this, then you have problems with the word of God, the Bible!
    You need to study these passages so that you can make it to heaven!
    If your pastor cannot answer these questions according to what I just said, then you need to leave that church!

    • @juliansihite1289
      @juliansihite1289 Год назад

      100% agree, OSAS is deception, so that all believers will live their life in complacency.
      Living in grace without Godly fruit, building relationship without intimacy, struggling in sin without repentance

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 6 месяцев назад

      ARE U BRAVE ENOUGHT TO ANSWER ? DOES JESUS CHRIST UN REDEEM HIS OWN AFTER HE ,,,,, HAS,,, RDEEMED THEM ? CAN A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN EVER BECOME ,,UN ..BORN AGAIN ? YES OR NO ? HOW BRAVE ARE OU TO TELL THE TRUTH.

    • @jjphank
      @jjphank 6 месяцев назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 did God divorce Israel in the Old Testament and when you’re divorced in real life you never see each other again unless you have kids! You are separated, and because of adultery, and sin so yes you can become twice dead Jude 12!
      4 scenarios in the parable of the sower not 2-saved & unsaved! one of them, The word of God took root but the cares of the world choked it out. They changed their mind and went back into their vomit!
      Last words of Jesus, at the end of the first century to the seven churches even the two good ones he says “he who overcomes“ will be saved, not overcame from the past!
      Read the parable of the good servant who went evil at the end of Mathew 24!

    • @jjphank
      @jjphank 6 месяцев назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 God gave Israel a certificate of divorce for their idolatry a.k.a. adultery in the Old Testament!
      3000 Israelites were baptized under the cloud & later fell dead in the desert, From unbelief as an example of what not to do first, Corinthians 10 !
      Read the seven churches of revelation 2 & 3 he says all seven times to seven churches “he who overcomes will be saved“ not “overcame“
      Read the parable at the end of Matthew 24 where the good servant became evil, and went to hell as a result !
      Four scenarios in the parable of the sower, not 2 only; one of them took root (grew from The Word Of God) but the cares of the world choked it out !

    • @jjphank
      @jjphank 6 месяцев назад

      @@theodoreritola7641 BOLD ENOUGH TO USE 50 MORES VERSES TO PROVE OSAS IS A LIE! But go ahead and start with the13 that I mentioned

  • @SaladMohamed-n5h
    @SaladMohamed-n5h 9 месяцев назад

    Di: "Él es Al-lah, Uno.
    Al-lah: Ver Corán 1:1 para la aclaración sobre el nombre de Dios.
    Show Other Translations
    Arabic explanations of the Qur’an: المُيسَّر السعدي البغوي ابن كثير الطبري
    Ayah: 2
    ٱللَّهُ ٱلصَّمَدُ
    Al-lah es el Absoluto.
    De Quien todos necesitan, mientras que Él no necesita de nadie.
    Show Other Translations
    Arabic explanations of the Qur’an: المُيسَّر السعدي البغوي ابن كثير الطبري
    Ayah: 3
    لَمۡ يَلِدۡ وَلَمۡ يُولَدۡ
    No engendró ni fue engendrado.
    Show Other Translations
    Arabic explanations of the Qur’an: المُيسَّر السعدي البغوي ابن كثير الطبري
    Ayah: 4
    وَلَمۡ يَكُن لَّهُۥ كُفُوًا أَحَدُۢ
    Y no hay nada ni nadie que sea semejante a Él".

  • @gr8god4u
    @gr8god4u Год назад

    John Calvin was never a Calvinist as is understood today.

  • @edhollingsworth2335
    @edhollingsworth2335 8 месяцев назад

    If you think you can lose your salvation you were never saved. Don't twist the scriptures to your own destructive.

    • @theodoreritola7641
      @theodoreritola7641 4 дня назад

      In John ch 3 verse 16 JESUS CHRIST IS STILL SAYING THE SAME 2O25 years later

  • @UlrichJahnke-yi1pn
    @UlrichJahnke-yi1pn 8 месяцев назад

    Lots of hokus pokus ( Gots chosen People massakering innocent Palestinians ?.)