Philadelphia -- Route 66 Trackless Trolley Scenes
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This presentation features a slideshow of Marmon-Herrington, Brill, and AM General Trackless Trolleys operating on Route 66, (between Frankford & Bridge and Frankford & City Line via Frankford Avenue, in Northeast Philadelphia. Pictures were taken in the 1960s and 1970s.
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Wow, what a time capsule and great memories. I remember in 1977/78.... taking the 66 Trolley all the way to end of the line, then walking up Rt.13 to the Woodhaven Mall movie theater to see Star Wars with my friend. We cut grade school a few times so we could go see the matinee.
Hi Ben, Thanks for watching and for sharing your memories of the good old days. I'm glad you liked the video and appreciate you taking the time to let me know. Cheers, tassiebaz.😃
Great Pictures, Tassiebaz. I still live in Holmsburg . Thank You for the great Pictures .
Hi Quarry, Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment with your kind words. Glad you enjoyed it. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
I lived near Craig and Stanwood St in the 70's and took the 66 with my mom to bridge and pratt for shopping in Kensington. I wouldn't do that now. Shopping down the Avenue and taking the 66 back from the Mayfair movies was always a treat
Lived in the Mayfair section of Philly. Road the 66 many times 50's to 70's. All those years ago.
Hi Skip, These scenes would be familiar to you and, hopefully, brought back some good memories of the good old days. Thanks for watching and for taking the time to comment. Stay well and all the best for a better 2021. Cheers, tassiebaz
@@tassiebaz Hello tassiebaz I remember the old 66 with the tracks. When it would go on Frankford Ave at Wissinoming Park the car would shake like it was going to jump the track. I worked for the Budd Co on Red Lion Rd. They made the Frankford El cars in 1960
Grew up in St. Tim's parish. Graduated Judge in '63. Live in Henderson, NV. NE Philly isn't the same.
@@skipweinacht1099 Agreed, NE Philly isn't the same. Hope you are enjoying NV. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@Count Orlock Hi, Thanks for watching. The Y and T are long gone and the 56 is bus now, so thing have changed a bit. Stay well and all the best for 2021. Cheers, tassiebaz.
thanks, i remember in the 70s my parents and i taking the EL "train" to the last stop (Bridge and Pratt), than getting on the 66 trolley and ending up in Penny Pack Park.
Hi Bobbo6665, You most probably rode a 300 series Marmon-Herrington TC-49 trackless trolley. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebazWhat stops do express services make on Trackless Trolley Route 66?
@@ExpressRailfan Hi, Thanks for watching and for your question. The current timetable shows express trips operate between Frankford Transit Center and Frankford & Cottman Avs with limited stops at Comly St, Van Kirk St, and Cheltenham Av. When the express wire was first put up in the 1960s, it started before Van Kirk St, so Van Kirk and Comly stops were not made. Also, it ended before Wellington St., so Wellington St. was a stop. Later an express wire was put in between north of Cottman to south of Rhawn, so express coaches did not stop in the area between Cottman and Rhawn. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😄
@@ExpressRailfan The current timetable shows that express trips operate between Frankford Transit Center and Frankford & Cottman Avs with limited stops at Comly St, Van Kirk St, and Cheltenham Av. Cheers, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz Do they make the same stops as the local service?
@4:28 - I saw 'Jaws' at the Merben Theater in June 1975. I'll never forget that. The theater had a balcony and a huge screen. That building is gone now, it's now a parking lot.
Hi Ben, Thanks for sharing another fond memory. Cheers tassiebaz.
I rode the 66 and the ride was really nice. In 1974 my fellow graffiti artists and I graffed the trolley buses and it was a ripper to see our artwork roll by on the 59,66, and the 75. I was 15,going on 16. The reality was that that was the way things were in Philadelphia at that time. I am amazed that trackless trolleys aren’t even a mention in any transit plans broached in North America. I’m appalled that so much money and resources are being wasted on the stupidity of battery electric vehicles.
Hi user-oy2xc7yf4i, Thanks for watching and for your informative comment. As you probably know, SEPTA tried to replace trackless trolleys on routes 29 and 79 in South Philadelphia with electric buses and failed miserably. The buses just couldn't perform. San Francisco, Seattle, and Vancouver all have a large trackless trolley system and are continually getting newer vehicles. I'd be surprised to ever see that happen in Philadelphia. Cheers, tassiebaz. 😄
Really nice study here on the old and the new trackless trolleys
Hi Francis, Thanks for your comment. Regards, tassiebaz.
Back in the 1960's while waiting for the route 66 to leave we would hand out our to free transfers to people. Miss the crank down windows. About ten years ago I looked all over for Greet Street. There is NO GREGG STREET that comes within blocks of Frankford Avenue. This turn around is valve way between Academy Road ( New Wawa ) & Linden Avenue ( firehouse ) .They ran fairly good in the snow.
Hi garbo, Thanks for watching and for your comment. While there no actual Frankford and Gregg intersection, the turnaround loop there has been called that for a long time, even when streetcars ran on Route 66. If you do a search on Google Maps for Frankford & Gregg, the loop shows up and is named that. Cheers, tassiebaz.
It's a shame you didn't get video of the marmon's heading towards Frankford at Cheltenham Ave. Some great dewirements and arks going over the crossover.
Hi Edward, Thanks for your comment. Yes, I sometimes regret things I didn't video or take pictures of, but it's impossible to cover everything. First, I'm not sure if non-professional video was around when the Marmons were. I did take some 8mm film, but it never looked as good as 35 mm slides, and it was difficult to do both, so I opted for the slides. Wen I look back, I always think that something is better than nothing, and now technology lets me share these memories. Regards, tassiebaz
tassiebaz I love your videos, especially the Brill trackless. I have a soft spot for the marmon's on the 66 because they ran past where my grandfather lived. Right behind the Mayfair diner.
Hi Edward, Thanks for your kind words. I also like the Brills, but they didn't get used Route 66 very often. Even the 400 Marmons didn't out there very much. The Mayfair Diner used to have pretty decent food. Haven't been there recently though. Regards, tassiebaz.
Great!!! Thanks!
Hi Bill, Thanks for watching and for your comment. Regards, tassiebaz.
Makes me feel really ancient when I realize the AM Generals that hit the streets when I was in grade school would now be 40 years old! By the mid-70's when most of these pics were taken, some of the Marmons etc. were almost 30 years old and looking quite battered
Hi Paul, Thanks for watching and for your comment. The Marmons looked quite battered because they were quite battered, despite being almost indestructible tank-like vehicles. Not to make you feel more ancient, but the AM Generals have not run since 2002-2003, and the New Flyers have already been in service for 12-13 years. Time does fly. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
Was in the Philly area in the late 60's and early 70's. The overhead for the trolley buses was really "saggy"! These pics conform my memory. I often wondered if this was done to allow a bit more leeway for the trolley buses. One thing was for sure, there were a lot of incidents of de-wiring back during that time! Combine poor road conditions (Philly potholes were in a class by themselves) and the "saggy overhead" and you were guaranteed to see an operator or two out re-wiring one or more poles!
Hi Reg, Thanks for watching and for talking the time to comment. I agree about the sagginess of the overhead, which seemed even more pronounced in the summer on hot days. I don't know if this was intentional or maybe just maintenance not as good as it should have been. You are also absolutely right about poor road conditions. Castor Avenue, in particular, had a series of bumps, especially north of Cottman Ave. Also, some of the coaches had short ropes which, if you went too far out from the overhead, would yank the pole(s) off. All good fun back in the days. Regards, tassiebaz.
@@tassiebaz Regarding trolley buses, I mentioned I had an uncle who worked for Birmingham Transit (Bill Burgin). Uncle Bill was a character if there ever was one! The stories I could tell, loved Uncle Bill. When I was a kid we would visit every summer. Birmingham would get hot, I mean HOT during the summer and oil from the macadam roads would percolate to the top. I remember riding with him on one of those hot days on a trolley bus. We got a rain shower. We were near the end on the line and only had about two people on the bus. He would "get on it hard" when starting and that bus would jump to the left about a foot from the torque and the slick road! Twice he pulled the poles off the wire, he would laugh and say. "hunk of iron!" He would re-wire and hop back in and say, "big brother- ready to go?" Uncle Bill had a nickname for everybody, I was big brother, as my brother was younger and smaller than I. What memories!
Hi Reg, I know how you feel. As I develop these presentations, I review the pictures that go into them, and have often recalled enjoyable things I hadn't thought about for a long time. It has been great to relive things that happened 40 or more years ago with vivid memories supported by these pictures, including many friends who are no longer with us. Regards, tassiebaz.
I wonder if the "saggy" lines were as you say to give leeway as many people used to double-park, or get around a pothole or fender-bender in front of them. Tight lines make it difficult to switch to another lane. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit.
9:34 - Not really sure how that's a 66. At Bustleton Ave?
Hi John, Thanks for watching and for your comment. At 9.34, the coach has just made a right turn off Bustleton Ave. onto Cheltenham Ave. heading for Frankford Avenue. The next picture is the same coach slightly up Cheltenham Avenue towards Frankford Ave. Regards, tassiebaz.
Hi @Tom Garbo, Unfortunately, it's all part of the job now. They train the drivers to operate the vehicles, but they don't train the passengers how to ride them. Maybe someone will develop a phone app. Common courtesy is not what it used to be. Regards, tassiebaz.
Hi @Tom Garbo, And, as per the custom there, they might have a gun. Just ignore and laugh. Regards, tassiebaz.
@Tom Garbo This is why I do not vote anymore. These people do. And there are so many more of them than me.
Hi @Tom Garbo, I hate to hear about stuff like that happening. It's bad enough that it happened, but the criminal got away with no punishment and I'm not so sure there was any support from SEPTA. I'm not sure what could be done to bar a particular person (how to identity him and enforce it), but drivers (and indeed others who serve the public) need protection of some kind. Regards, tassiebaz.
15 years ago my brother lived in Cornwell Heights and a mile away was a trolley bus loop by the highway with a shopping mall .I saw no trolley buses ther but I did see the double wires. Did the route 66 ever gomnesr there? Or was ther another rout number that did gomclose to Cornwell Heights?
Hi Luis, Thanks for watching and for your question. What you saw was the Route 66 City Line Loop at Frankford Avenue and Knights Road. The 66 went straight down Frankford Avenue to Bridge Street where it connected with Market-Frankford Elevated trains to downtown. Stay well. Cheers, tassiebaz.
These are the ones or are some of the ones the cta had in chicago.some went to Philadelphia and the rest went to Montreal canada
Hi Norell, Thanks for watching and for your comment. From what I know, Philadelphia bought all their trolleybuses new, the model pictured (301-343) in 1955. Chicago did sell 250 of their coaches to Guadalajara, Mexico. Cheers, tassiebaz.
hello Im here in Brazil, ainda tem este trolleybus ai ele anda com as ruas cheias de neve?
Hi Magno Toledo in Brazil. Thanks for watching and for your comment. This trolleybus route still operates, but it has newer (2008) vehicles. As far as I know, there are no problems running them in the snow. Stay well. Regards, tassiebaz.
Olá Magno Toledo no Brasil. Obrigado por assistir e pelo seu comentário. Essa rota de trólebus ainda funciona, mas possui veículos mais novos (2008). Até onde eu sei, não há problemas em executá-los na neve. Fique bem. Atenciosamente, tassiebaz.
Для 80года слишком провинциальненько , троллейбус явно устарел,в СССР такие уже не ходили.