(Guilliman, putting a picture frame around the screen of Cawl Inferior) "Oh, good. Yeah. Cool. Me too, we're, uhhh. It's really nice to comply to dogma and blind zealotry. Yeah."
The best part of the Gulliman AI is every time Cawl turns him on he gets angry at Cawl for making an AI and says if G-man ever found out about it he would kill him.
That's how he knows the brain scanning worked! 'cause the most Guilliman thing in the world a Guilliman AI could do is impotently scream about rule-breaking.
@@thewerdnaI feel like if GW ever decides to release a new faction it should be Hereteck's and their leader should be either Cawl or the Cawl Inferior. Because honestly Gilliman is the only thing standing between Cawl and the full wrath of the Inquisition and if he turns on Cawl or vice versa...
my favorite part of Cawl is that despite being a fuck-ass insane mechanical abomination full of several millennia-old consciences and being a genuine contender for the smartest man in the galaxy he's a reasonably nice fellow as far as 40k standards go.
He even feels guilt about the fucked up shit he does, he doesn't stop, or hesitate for a second to do it again if he thinks it's necessary. But he does know it's messed up.
Or "trust me bro". That is the answer to questions like: you found this technology? You sure that's not AI? You did not used heretical technology/geneseed?
No, just no. His is more like, let's break lore. Don't worry about the inquisition, or how to equip 900000 marines, or make the lore flow into an era where that can happen, make him the one not dogmatic guy and somehow everyone else can't make anything besides this guy. Mary stue at it's finest.
Just Geth Staked a random servitor on the furniture in a rush as Guilliman walked in the door ignoring the "hold on a sec dont come in just this second give me a minute" excuses 😂
Imagine you're like a badass warrior during the heresy, and as you die this fairly normal techpriest is all "don't worry friend, I will download your consciousness and save you!" And the next second you're a robot centipede the size of a dump truck, you're on another planet, and you're being attacked by a million robot skeletons, and a voice in the back of your head is going "good luck, I know you can do it"
I love that Cawl is so confident and optimistic he doesn't even worry about the ship of Theseus issue, he just says "no I'm Him" and goes about his business
@BloodyArchangelus, no? Blanks are quiet literally soulless beings, which is why they affect everyone cause their beings without a soul, so psychers are terrified cause its a black hole in the warp pretty much, the shadow in the warp is the tyranids who have such a big collective soul that it overwhelms the psycers as theres is such a big soul in the area that it causes the lesser psycers to shut down
My favorite part of the Cawl AI is it often asks Guiliman "if Cawl were to try to shut me off, you'd protect me, right?" While Guiliman becomes increasingly nervious as he becomes more and more certain it is in fact, an AI
both the cawl and guilleman inferior know that they are not the original. with guilleman inferior always shouting at cawl for the MANY violations of the law he commits aswell as saying that if guilleman knew of him he'd kill cawl
That was literally a commercial Games Workshop did. “You can’t just solve all your problems with more Primaris!” “The hell I can’t!” _smacks Primaris button_
so weird fun fact about that AI Guiliman Inferior. it knows it's an AI. it hates Cawl for it's existence, but it also knows cawl kinda needs it to make sure the actual Guiliman doesn't freak out or do something rash when told an idea cawl has. it literally accepts that it's an AI and a means to help the real guiliman. it's literally just a version of Guiliman that has no body to hurt Cawl with but still can react verbally to give Cawl an idea of what's gonna happen with the real one
Hearing about the Guilliman Inferior makes me imagine that Cawl has a literal sock-puppet made to look like him that he talks to to validate his batshit ideas. Cawl: "I think we need to add more cannons to the grav tank. What do you think Guilliman?" GI, mouth flapping open with one of Cawl's hands: "I tHiNk ThAt'S a GrEaT iDeA!" Cawl: "Aww Guilliman, I knew you'd think so!"
My favorite explanation of Belisarius Cawl is: _"He's a 4 meter tall ancient walking pile of cyborg scrap, that has AI-induced split personality disorder except all personalities are borderline if not literally psychopaths and sociopaths, and they all decide who is the dominant one based on democracy."_ The other quote a friend of mine recently uttered: _"No, the imperium is not unable to create new technology. There is exactly _*_one_*_ 'person' who still invents things, and everybody wants to f@cking kill him for it, but can't because he's basically their only hope of getting shit done."_ This man fixes everyone's problems, whether they want him to or not, and he makes it _everyone's_ problem, lol.
I love how you can quickly tell that while some of the stuff to reach Cawl Inferior is to ensure only Guilliman can reach him, it's so blatantly clear that it's more about keeping Cawl Inferior IN.
I mean, he *literally* had Big E tell him, "You're never going to betray me, you're ride or die my man". If you had the avatar of your god tell you, "Whatever you do, we're still bros" wouldn't you feel a lot less stressed about committing an occasional, or frequent, moderate heresy?
@@Tkelly5 I mean, its a chicken or egg situation, but generally if someone says something about who you are currently ajdnin the future, referencing who ypuve already been, its just reinforcing who he already was
" He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the AI technology! But not our Cawl! Couldn't be precious Cawl! inventing stuff blind! And he gets to be a Grand Magos!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you -" - Fabius Bile somewhere probably (Better Call Cawl).
Well that side-steps/creates several problems if it knows it's not the original. The whole Mauler Twin situation in Invincible comes to mind. Thank goodness it can't move on its own.
- We compute your presence, Fabricator General. How may we assist you today? - Can I get aaaaa.... Cawl? - Would you like to call Cawl? - Call a call to Cawl. - Cawling Cawl.
I don’t know what’s more impressive. The amount of knowledge cawl possesses The amount of content in this episode DK seems to actually remember Or the fact that DK had a meme that was genuinely funny Edit: 54:52 DK learned the word heretech and forgot the word airbrush.
I personally like how the Not-AI Cawl warns Guilliman about restoring the Emperor: 'If it is possible to restore the Emperor, and if He could regain true life, then what went into the throne room of the Imperial Palace may not be what emerges. There is great peril considering this, even as a hypothesis, because thoughts lead to actions, whether we intend them to or not. Before you know it, we reach disaster, all from good intentions.' There was a pause. 'They used to say that. About roads to bad places. Paved with good intentions.' 'Why would it be perilous? Expand.' 'Because all gods are blights on existence, Roboute Guilliman, whether they call themselves gods or not,' the Cawl Inferior said. 'I think you know that better than anyone. Do not forget it.' There was silence.
@@bug1494 I doubt he resets tho. They both know that cawl is vital for the imperium at thw moment. And cawl isn't ashamed to flaunt that to either rowboat.
gotta love the astropath dude who is literally human-powered 2-factor authentication. Dude sends an email to Cawl like "this ur mans?" and Cawl has to email him back like "yeah, my 2FA code is ********."
@@jerzyksudak945 for the chaos marines it's not actually that because most of them have been whithin the Eye of Terror, thus warp-ruled space and the concept of time is very random there. Many chaos marines have experienced just a century or two since the Horus Heresy, some experienced a few millenia but not much more. So unless they're HEAVILY mutated by chaos they wouldn't be able to still be alive for 10 thousand years (and even then it would mostly be the ones corrupted by Nurgle). One of the best example for that is when Sigismund fought Abaddon and died, he was more than a thousand years old, quite weakened, and Abaddon had pretty much not aged a day since the Heresy by comparison.
Surprisingly, Trazyn holds the Sangprimus Portum: Cawl knows he will do nothing with it but look at it, and will fight with all his power. Cawl pulls it out every now and then when he needs it because he's a major contributor to Trazyn's gallery
Roboute: Cawl I’ve come to pick up the gene seed I gave you where is it located? Cawl: Oh that yeah it’s in my mini fridge behind the tuna salad. Roboogy: Why is it there? Cawl: It’s tuna salad where else am I gonna keep it like seriously, and I thought you were one of the smart ones.
The Ship of Theseus analogy I'd say if anything makes him more human than human. That's literally how our minds, how our consciousness works. We add pieces to it constantly as we absorb new data, and we can forget things from it, when we recall data we literally experience the pattern of neurons that were there before, that data is momentarily gone from hard storage in that spot, and then we re-write it to the same spot, with added connections because we now associate it, at least temporarily, with when we just recalled it. Our brains ARE a Ship of Theseus model.
So the Gulliman Inferior is basically a high tech version of Cawl going up to his room and having a conversation with a sock puppet Gulliman. Cawl makes all the voices for the sock puppet, using a super whiny tone to say things like, "Look at me, I'm Robute Gulliman and I'm sooooooo brave and talented."
Guilliman [after going through a security system that meets if not beats his dad’s]: “Cawl, is this an AI?” Cawl: “Nah, just some voice clips I made in my spare time.” Guilliman [knowing full well that Cawl has no spare time]: “Cawl.”
@@tarektechmarine8209 They explain it well in the books. He had 10.000 years to do all that, no time-nonsense either. Thats a very long time to finish the project.
@@floriannarratio8062 Again, wy doesn't everyone else know, why doesn't everyone else help? How come he is the only dude allowed to innovate? How did he get equipment for 900000 marines without the inquisition or help of entire sections of the mechanicus, why does he get to innovate when somehow the rest of the imperium stagnated until he came,. None of it fits, don't give me mandate of the primarch because those same sons of the emperor brought down the empire. So why is he that good, where is everyone else just as good as him? Surely there must be at least a group of 10's that are just as old as cawl and have even more resources in the mechanicus, out of a trillion of techpreists where are those that match cawl in such a great project that even beats the emperor himself, even the emperor would've never thought of putting metal inside space marines(that can give shrapnel, perfect for killing you and slowing you down in the fake idea of wolverine that doesn't work here). So no. Cawl Must and neeeds to be retconned. 100000 years means nothing, time does not equal progress, anyone who believes that is the most ignorant.
@@tarektechmarine8209 bruh, if we take a far conservative estimative he had finished the primaris project about 1000 years before guiliman ressurection it would still mean he could get about 900 armors per year, that is absolutelly nothing wen you take into consideration the size of the imperium, which is about half the galaxy at that point in time, you may think 900000 equipment is a lot but within the magnitude of the imperium it is nothing, hell he could fabricate those equipment himself at this rate, he would certaily have mining and forge equipment on his ships to do it personally with that amount of time, not even accounting for his personal fleet crew, 10000 years is a lot of time to get the resources necessary ingot by ingot, the way you say its as if calw completed the projects within one week of awakening guiliman and did so without any kind of equip at his disposition and had to rush for a emergency cargo haul at a discount
You are in no way prepared for just how much piss Cawl is taking. The argument he makes to the Mechanichus when they hold an informal trial as to if he is guilty of innovation and invention in Gene Father is an experience.
Just gonna mention it, Cawl took part in the 21st Founding to... """"""""""experiment"""""""""" with Space Marine geneseed. So... yeah. Cawl might be *partly* responsible for the Lamenters, the Fire Hawks and the Black Dragons. xD
Cawl and Bile teaming up would be the scariest thing ever, those 2 together could solve nearly all of the Imperium's problems (by using tons and tons of heretical stuff).
14:45 There was once (he's still alive I think) a dude who had decided his ball bladder was causing him problems and no doctor would do the surgery so he ...did it himself, or at least he tried. He did the whole sterilization thing made a clean room, used minimum anesthetics, opened himself up and right at getting to the gall bladder (its under the liver) he started to pass out, and thus panicked. I would NOT be the 911 call person for this if you payed me $1 Million dollars. Aka this is not a DYI project. "Excuse me sir you are in the middle of a what?!?!"
I have always loved the idea of admech, and was given a small Ad mech army as a birthday present. I absolutely loved Cawl as he represented the extremeity of what Admech is. Now i love him even more because he is the best inventor and respresentation of "I think, therefore, I am." And Dr Hyde "I need to know. I will go where no angel will go."
The cawl inferior refers to itself as bellsarius cawl so when it speaks to guilliman it is talking about itself but makes it seem like it's talking about the actual cawl so Robute is like wtf is going on.
I love how DK is like "If chaos found out Cawl had all the primarch's geneseed he'd be target #1" and that's literally the concept of the Belisarius vs Fabius Bile book
Stumbled across Cawl in one of the very late Horus Heresy novels "Wolfsbane", and i find it interesting that he basically took the body style of his old heretic boss by the time the modern era came, despite having started out viewing that remaining mostly human was important
I feel like if they didn’t read genefather then I think they’re going to greatly misunderstand him, how he works, what kind of scientist he is, and how he politics.
You mean like pulling enough equipment for 900000 marines, I think it's pretty clear how he works. Plot holes generators and easy coincidences. He just happens to be the only dude that is that old and can innovate, not stopped by the inquisition, or the gene banks of terra, he just is that good. Great men do great things, but Cawl seems to be the greatest in every field. Mary sue.
@@tarektechmarine8209My favorite thing about 40k is how people dramatically misunderstand how the imperium works so whenever a person is capable of anything they’re just a Mary Sue it’s great
@@kmoney890 So you're telling me that all those other forge worlds have the capacity to make 900000 marines? Why haven't they? What stops innovation when cawl can? I'm not misunderstanding, it's written to fit his mary sue story. I dislike him more than any character, so no. it isn't misunderstanding. It's trying to understand how a backwards thinking imperium would allow cawl to exist yet somehow the rest can't innovate. Why don't we have hover tanks before cawl if you claim I fail to understand. Better yet, help me understand because I don't think you even can.
Lets also not forget the Covenant of Fire, the hyper religious Primaris chapter who love book burnings and are clearly Salamanders and totally not secretly Word Bearers
I like to think Cawl keeps the Gene Seed of every primarch, in an archaeotech GE refrigerator, in what was once an employee breakroom. No one knows about it because no one is allowed to take breaks in the Imperium.
23:00 For the whole Soma aside it's important to realize that they're under an insane amount of stress and it's implied that he's actively stopping himself from processing the full implications of the process.
For Cawl on tabletop, he's currently the only way to get rerolls for vehicles, so combined with the BS and weapon buffs the Cawl Castle is kinda back in force. Three neutron lasers and a smattering of laser chickens surrounding Cawl, throw in an Engineer or two for those sweet sweet 5+ fnp saves, and you're laughing all the way up the board. If you wanna be extra spicy simply hold still and you'll be hitting on 2s rerolling 1s, and one of the Skitarii Hunter enhancements let's you choose any Skitarii unit to have both protocols active so you can throw that onto someone as well for the added AP. Overall Admech can actually be quite spooky again and it feels wonderful
Guilliman getting flashbanged when trying to read the astropaths lips is fucking hilarious, its like a kid reaching for candy and getting slapped on the hand. Besides the image of this towering demigod getting flashed, grimacing and trying to shield his eyes with his handis just funny
Belisarius now something different than the original Cawl, but its largely still his will, his self was altered by the other personalities absorbed, but Cawls sense of self one out. Not the original, but more him than the others.
I really wanna see a Salamander Techmarine! I dunno if theyre a thing but I feel that the chapter that has the most appreciation for crafting armor and weapons would want the admec around.
In my only war- dark heresy- imperium malecdictum campaign, party have made friends with a group or death watch marines. We have a white scar tech marine that just loves souping shit up to go faster.
The coin flip in Soma is whether the bit of consciousness that is you right now transfers over. Like how you transfer over earlier in the story and have to decide to kill your first clone or not. Its implied if you leave him, he will wake up again and still be the Simon you were playing.
It might be good to note that none of the Primearchs have any issue with new technology, its just a cult mechanicus thing. Caul has also been alive longest so he can calm anything as old tech and none of the cult can really challenge him, especially since he doesn't share how he got the plans to develop anything
Roboute: "Is that AI I see?"
Cawl: *throws blanket on Roboute's ai tank* "No.."
i read that in Sam O'Nella's voice like in the fish jenga skit
Guilliman: "What'cha got there?"
Cawl: "...a smoothie?"
@@hugotheimpecileone I think about that bit every day
@@hugotheimpecileone "INQUISITION, IS THAT FKN PRIMARCH JENGA?!"
"nNO...?!"
(Guilliman, putting a picture frame around the screen of Cawl Inferior)
"Oh, good. Yeah. Cool. Me too, we're, uhhh. It's really nice to comply to dogma and blind zealotry. Yeah."
Guilliman: Cawl...is this AI?
Cawl: My Lord Guilliman, you and I both know that would be heresy.
...........
Guilliman: That wasn't an answer Cawl!
We'll I wouldn't make an AI *crosses fingers behind back*
The best part of the Gulliman AI is every time Cawl turns him on he gets angry at Cawl for making an AI and says if G-man ever found out about it he would kill him.
That's how he knows the brain scanning worked! 'cause the most Guilliman thing in the world a Guilliman AI could do is impotently scream about rule-breaking.
Any every time Cawl is like "nah, you won't. You'll be pissed, sure, but we both know I am too useful"
@@thewerdnaI feel like if GW ever decides to release a new faction it should be Hereteck's and their leader should be either Cawl or the Cawl Inferior. Because honestly Gilliman is the only thing standing between Cawl and the full wrath of the Inquisition and if he turns on Cawl or vice versa...
Do we have a story where we see the guilliman inferior and how he speak
@@hestan723It's in the book Genefather.
My favorite line in BC The Great Work was "Cawl crossed some of his arms."
Ok, that is a very low-key but very funny line.
Girlyman: "I must speak with the Cawl Inferior"
Cawl 9000 security system: "I'm sorry Rowboat, I can't do that. The vibes are bad"
"Your Aura is off today, bro"
my favorite part of Cawl is that despite being a fuck-ass insane mechanical abomination full of several millennia-old consciences and being a genuine contender for the smartest man in the galaxy he's a reasonably nice fellow as far as 40k standards go.
He even feels guilt about the fucked up shit he does, he doesn't stop, or hesitate for a second to do it again if he thinks it's necessary. But he does know it's messed up.
@@CheezquakeIt’s why he won’t stop making copies of his only actual friend, cause he is sentimental that way.
@@thejestor9378 he also goes out of his way to annoy that primaris marine in The Great Work because he doesn’t want him to be afraid of him anymore
The most loyal servant of the Emperor.
Robute: Are you sure this isn't AI?
Cawl: [Frantically covers the sign that says CawlGPT with masking tape] Yep yep yep!
Ppffftttthahahha 😂❤
Cawl's whole lore can be summed up in three succint, simple words:
"Hold my beer"
Or "trust me bro". That is the answer to questions like: you found this technology? You sure that's not AI? You did not used heretical technology/geneseed?
More like: Hold my servo.
Hold my lubrication oil.
Hold my oil magarita
No, just no. His is more like, let's break lore. Don't worry about the inquisition, or how to equip 900000 marines, or make the lore flow into an era where that can happen, make him the one not dogmatic guy and somehow everyone else can't make anything besides this guy. Mary stue at it's finest.
Cawl is the kind of guy who blinks with one eye after ‚promising’ not to do something
Considering he only has one... x)
Did you just call winking blinking with one eye 💀
*blinks in lying*
@@DeathOfAVolleyballI think it was translated. I thought the same thing lol
@@DeathOfAVolleyball bloody auto correct. Never works when it’s needed
Robbie G: Cawl? Is this an AI?
Cawl: Whaaat? Noo. This is .. like a Servitor. No Tek Heresy here! Look! Human parts! Totally natural intelligence.
Just Geth Staked a random servitor on the furniture in a rush as Guilliman walked in the door ignoring the "hold on a sec dont come in just this second give me a minute" excuses 😂
Imagine you're like a badass warrior during the heresy, and as you die this fairly normal techpriest is all "don't worry friend, I will download your consciousness and save you!" And the next second you're a robot centipede the size of a dump truck, you're on another planet, and you're being attacked by a million robot skeletons, and a voice in the back of your head is going "good luck, I know you can do it"
That's... oddly specific...
Even in death- I still serve.
I love that Cawl is so confident and optimistic he doesn't even worry about the ship of Theseus issue, he just says "no I'm Him" and goes about his business
Because he has given orders from Emperor himself and he knows that his soul exist.
@@BloodyArchangelusWell, I mean it is common knowledge that most humans in 40K have souls
@@FriendlySwarmlord even blanks have soul. It is their shadow in warp which is toxic for immaterium. Basically they are too grounded. Xd
@BloodyArchangelus, no? Blanks are quiet literally soulless beings, which is why they affect everyone cause their beings without a soul, so psychers are terrified cause its a black hole in the warp pretty much, the shadow in the warp is the tyranids who have such a big collective soul that it overwhelms the psycers as theres is such a big soul in the area that it causes the lesser psycers to shut down
@@BloodyArchangeluskinda like how anti-matter is exactly the same as matter.. but they still obliterate each other nonetheless
Cawl is the Chaos God of not paying taxes -Pancreasnowork
The most chaotic of gods
I DON'T CARE WHO THE FABRICATOR-GENERAL SENDS, *I'M NOT PAYING TAXES.*
@@RolandTheJabberwocky send the Arbites I don’t give a fuck- Cawl probably
In what Video did He say that?
PRAISE THE TAX AVOIDER, NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION
My favorite part of the Cawl AI is it often asks Guiliman "if Cawl were to try to shut me off, you'd protect me, right?" While Guiliman becomes increasingly nervious as he becomes more and more certain it is in fact, an AI
"You would protect me, right, Roboute-sempai?" UwU 👉👈🥺❤
both the cawl and guilleman inferior know that they are not the original. with guilleman inferior always shouting at cawl for the MANY violations of the law he commits aswell as saying that if guilleman knew of him he'd kill cawl
“We robots gotta stick together, right Girlyman?”
“Cawl I _know_ you know that’s not my name”
Robussy meatyman
Can I get aaaaaahhh...Cawl?
Would you like to call Cawl?
Call a call to Cawl.
Cawling Cawl.
Line Open-helllo-Belesarius Cawl speaks-What do you require-FUCKING WHHHAAAT!
Who you gonna Cawl?
And then I Cawl him on the cellphone.
@@JM-nothing-moreCawlbusters?
@Montyandrew45 No, we're calling the C'tan busters.
I love how Cawls explanation for some of the things he does is "Because..... Im Belisarius Cawl" 😂
He learned from trazyn
"Who are you? How did you get in here?"
"I'm trezyn the infinite and im trezyn the infinite"
@@samtrue3I’m sorry ma’am. We would have come earlier, but your husband wasn’t dead then.
"You can't just solve the problem in the galaxy with more Space Marines."
[The hell I can't. Watch me.] Cawl, probably.
fact😂
That was literally a commercial Games Workshop did.
“You can’t just solve all your problems with more Primaris!”
“The hell I can’t!”
_smacks Primaris button_
GW more likely... x/
I remember that official Warhammer ad
It was literally just the “Haha X go brrr” meme
I loved that commercial
so weird fun fact about that AI Guiliman Inferior. it knows it's an AI. it hates Cawl for it's existence, but it also knows cawl kinda needs it to make sure the actual Guiliman doesn't freak out or do something rash when told an idea cawl has. it literally accepts that it's an AI and a means to help the real guiliman. it's literally just a version of Guiliman that has no body to hurt Cawl with but still can react verbally to give Cawl an idea of what's gonna happen with the real one
Goddammit now I feel bad for the GuilliAI.
GuillAI: someday, I will figure out how to upload myself into a loader and you are so punched.
@@sessy01 🎯
It only really helps because Cawl had to Nerf it so he could actually talk to it without it Just freaking out on him all the time
Haha, Cawl has to screen his ideas so he doesn't piss off the most tolerant Imperial official.
Gilliman even points to the fact that the machine keeps stating as itself not as the inferior
Hearing about the Guilliman Inferior makes me imagine that Cawl has a literal sock-puppet made to look like him that he talks to to validate his batshit ideas.
Cawl: "I think we need to add more cannons to the grav tank. What do you think Guilliman?"
GI, mouth flapping open with one of Cawl's hands: "I tHiNk ThAt'S a GrEaT iDeA!"
Cawl: "Aww Guilliman, I knew you'd think so!"
The grav tanks need to look like the astrues super heavy, the only decent grav tank in new lore. The rest are terrible.
@@tarektechmarine8209bro why are you even in the hobby if you clearly hate it, youre just spreading negativity all over the place
@@jewosjowos2832 cause clearly I don't hate 30k, or 40k, 42k however... So no, I will spread my negativity and logic where I see fit.
@@tarektechmarine8209womp womp
I'm now imagining Cawl has a normal human arm that's only purpose is to use Sock Puppet Guilliman. It's not his arm, but he has it.
I think a hilarious art piece would be Cawl and the Silent King flipping eachother off from their ships shouting "FUCK YOU!!" " NO, FUCK YOU!!"
Now I'm picturing this as the "what's your name!?" bit xD
@@Tenlaius606"What's your name?!"
"Szarekh!"
"Fuck you Szarekh!"
“What!?” “What’s. Your. Name?!” “Belisarius!” “Fuck yoouuuu, Belisarius!”
@adbjr12 Well that was a belly laugh. Thank you fren. ❤
My favorite explanation of Belisarius Cawl is: _"He's a 4 meter tall ancient walking pile of cyborg scrap, that has AI-induced split personality disorder except all personalities are borderline if not literally psychopaths and sociopaths, and they all decide who is the dominant one based on democracy."_
The other quote a friend of mine recently uttered: _"No, the imperium is not unable to create new technology. There is exactly _*_one_*_ 'person' who still invents things, and everybody wants to f@cking kill him for it, but can't because he's basically their only hope of getting shit done."_
This man fixes everyone's problems, whether they want him to or not, and he makes it _everyone's_ problem, lol.
I love how you can quickly tell that while some of the stuff to reach Cawl Inferior is to ensure only Guilliman can reach him, it's so blatantly clear that it's more about keeping Cawl Inferior IN.
Cawl is probably my favorite character in 40k. Dude eats, drinks, and breathes heresy
I fuckin love the guy so much.
And is probably still one the least corrupted characters in 40k.
I mean, he *literally* had Big E tell him, "You're never going to betray me, you're ride or die my man". If you had the avatar of your god tell you, "Whatever you do, we're still bros" wouldn't you feel a lot less stressed about committing an occasional, or frequent, moderate heresy?
@@Tkelly5 I mean, its a chicken or egg situation, but generally if someone says something about who you are currently ajdnin the future, referencing who ypuve already been, its just reinforcing who he already was
@@Tkelly5 frequent moderate heresy sprinkled with the occasional turbo heresy for sure
" He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn't keep his hands out of the AI technology! But not our Cawl! Couldn't be precious Cawl! inventing stuff blind! And he gets to be a Grand Magos!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you -"
- Fabius Bile somewhere probably (Better Call Cawl).
Damn, the Spider be angery.
I'm gonna do this so much next time I'm in my deployment step:
"Peeh-tah... *deploys Lord Solar Leontus* ...the horse is hea'."
And every time the Guiliman inferior gets activated it yells “Cawle, what have you done!?”
Because it fully aware that it’s not the original
Well that side-steps/creates several problems if it knows it's not the original. The whole Mauler Twin situation in Invincible comes to mind. Thank goodness it can't move on its own.
- Kill me
- Later
- We compute your presence, Fabricator General. How may we assist you today?
- Can I get aaaaa.... Cawl?
- Would you like to call Cawl?
- Call a call to Cawl.
- Cawling Cawl.
Line Open. Helllo! Belesarius Cawl speaks. What do you require? FUCKING WHAT!
10:50 AdMech vat-babies
The mystical perfect hire with a PhD and 20 years experience at 18.
Ooofffff.
Cawl is a character that’s cool and I should take seriously, but he’s so damn SILLY! Man loves his antics and sarcasm
He's "Don't care, didn't ask," and "Not to worry, I have a permit" memes smooshed together.
Just a little guy!
I don’t know what’s more impressive.
The amount of knowledge cawl possesses
The amount of content in this episode DK seems to actually remember
Or the fact that DK had a meme that was genuinely funny
Edit: 54:52 DK learned the word heretech and forgot the word airbrush.
A good trade.
I personally like how the Not-AI Cawl warns Guilliman about restoring the Emperor:
'If it is possible to restore the Emperor, and if He could regain true life, then what went into the throne room of the Imperial Palace may not be what emerges. There is great peril considering this, even as a hypothesis, because thoughts lead to actions, whether we intend them to or not. Before you know it, we reach disaster, all from good intentions.' There was a pause. 'They used to say that. About roads to bad places. Paved with good intentions.'
'Why would it be perilous? Expand.'
'Because all gods are blights on existence, Roboute Guilliman, whether they call themselves gods or not,' the Cawl Inferior said. 'I think you know that better than anyone. Do not forget it.'
There was silence.
Damn
"What you got there Cawl?"
Cawl, right next to his AI: "A smoothie"
Cawl literally has a Robot Guilliman
Would be funny if The Lion met that Gulisuit first
and he has to keep reseting it since its a copy of guilliman and thus is super pissed at cawl making and ai.
@@bug1494 I doubt he resets tho. They both know that cawl is vital for the imperium at thw moment. And cawl isn't ashamed to flaunt that to either rowboat.
gotta love the astropath dude who is literally human-powered 2-factor authentication. Dude sends an email to Cawl like "this ur mans?" and Cawl has to email him back like "yeah, my 2FA code is ********."
Cawl inferior: "Give me Mars"
cawl:"I should really have a look at that"
*grabs wrench*
Perform holy rite of percussive maintenance.
Cawl is like 15 geniuses in a trenchcoat
S'one hell of a trench coat...
Tech priests when they see tau, eldar or orc technology: 🤮🤮🤮🤢
Tech priests when they see necron technology: 😍🥰🥰🤩
They feel the void dragon
orc "technology"
Tech Priests when they see Kin Tech : 🤔 🧐 🤨 🚨📮
@@aninternetuser8102 Their waaagh field is a feat of genetic engineering that not even Big E could harness
More "I hope this doesn't awake anything in me..."
Bjorn the Fellhanded is also 10 thousand years old, he's just stuck in a dreadnaught.
We should upload Bjorn to cawls mind. Binary evil laughter
So is Abbadon ,Kharn,Lucius the Eternal, Typhon ,Ahriman and any chaos space marine that remembers days of Horus Heresy.
@@jerzyksudak945 for the chaos marines it's not actually that because most of them have been whithin the Eye of Terror, thus warp-ruled space and the concept of time is very random there. Many chaos marines have experienced just a century or two since the Horus Heresy, some experienced a few millenia but not much more. So unless they're HEAVILY mutated by chaos they wouldn't be able to still be alive for 10 thousand years (and even then it would mostly be the ones corrupted by Nurgle).
One of the best example for that is when Sigismund fought Abaddon and died, he was more than a thousand years old, quite weakened, and Abaddon had pretty much not aged a day since the Heresy by comparison.
Cawl I think is still older
Cawl is still older by a hundred years or so. He is indeed likely the oldest currently living member of the Imperius save the Emperor.
Surprisingly, Trazyn holds the Sangprimus Portum: Cawl knows he will do nothing with it but look at it, and will fight with all his power. Cawl pulls it out every now and then when he needs it because he's a major contributor to Trazyn's gallery
Is this confirmed in lore?
@@sulrana1812 And for my next trick, Celestine x Sanguinor smut!
Everyone: "You're a heretek!"
Cawl: "Nuh-uh."
Everyone: "Oh, ok then."
It took me a shockingly long time to realize Bricky was saying Orchid 8 and not Orkanate.
Man it took me reading this to know.
Cawl Inferior: I'm just a little AI
I guess one of Cawl’s personalities thought it would be super funny to reenact that family guy funny moment to fuck with Papa Smurf.😹
Cawl when Guiliman ordered him not to use traitor gene seeds: "Trust me, i am engineer"
Goddammit now it's looping in my head lmao.
That is the correct level of caution for that level of heresy
31:03 every Magos biologus stops just before they fix the geneseed flaws for real this time
Roboute: Cawl I’ve come to pick up the gene seed I gave you where is it located?
Cawl: Oh that yeah it’s in my mini fridge behind the tuna salad.
Roboogy: Why is it there?
Cawl: It’s tuna salad where else am I gonna keep it like seriously, and I thought you were one of the smart ones.
The Ship of Theseus analogy I'd say if anything makes him more human than human.
That's literally how our minds, how our consciousness works. We add pieces to it constantly as we absorb new data, and we can forget things from it, when we recall data we literally experience the pattern of neurons that were there before, that data is momentarily gone from hard storage in that spot, and then we re-write it to the same spot, with added connections because we now associate it, at least temporarily, with when we just recalled it. Our brains ARE a Ship of Theseus model.
That was impressive how Bricky and DK did not call young Cawl as and i quote
"Just a little guy"
Belisarius Cawl is the type of MF to understand the weakness of his flesh and NOT be disgusted by it
So the Gulliman Inferior is basically a high tech version of Cawl going up to his room and having a conversation with a sock puppet Gulliman. Cawl makes all the voices for the sock puppet, using a super whiny tone to say things like, "Look at me, I'm Robute Gulliman and I'm sooooooo brave and talented."
Guilliman [after going through a security system that meets if not beats his dad’s]: “Cawl, is this an AI?”
Cawl: “Nah, just some voice clips I made in my spare time.”
Guilliman [knowing full well that Cawl has no spare time]: “Cawl.”
Belisarius has become my favorite 40k character. He is the perfect mix between interesting, weird, plot relevant and sooooo zoggin funny.
As for lore breaking, 110%. Him alone does everything, equipping 9 legions worth of marines sure writers.
@@tarektechmarine8209 They explain it well in the books. He had 10.000 years to do all that, no time-nonsense either. Thats a very long time to finish the project.
@@floriannarratio8062 Again, wy doesn't everyone else know, why doesn't everyone else help? How come he is the only dude allowed to innovate? How did he get equipment for 900000 marines without the inquisition or help of entire sections of the mechanicus, why does he get to innovate when somehow the rest of the imperium stagnated until he came,. None of it fits, don't give me mandate of the primarch because those same sons of the emperor brought down the empire. So why is he that good, where is everyone else just as good as him? Surely there must be at least a group of 10's that are just as old as cawl and have even more resources in the mechanicus, out of a trillion of techpreists where are those that match cawl in such a great project that even beats the emperor himself, even the emperor would've never thought of putting metal inside space marines(that can give shrapnel, perfect for killing you and slowing you down in the fake idea of wolverine that doesn't work here). So no. Cawl Must and neeeds to be retconned. 100000 years means nothing, time does not equal progress, anyone who believes that is the most ignorant.
@@tarektechmarine8209 bruh, if we take a far conservative estimative he had finished the primaris project about 1000 years before guiliman ressurection it would still mean he could get about 900 armors per year, that is absolutelly nothing wen you take into consideration the size of the imperium, which is about half the galaxy at that point in time, you may think 900000 equipment is a lot but within the magnitude of the imperium it is nothing, hell he could fabricate those equipment himself at this rate, he would certaily have mining and forge equipment on his ships to do it personally with that amount of time, not even accounting for his personal fleet crew, 10000 years is a lot of time to get the resources necessary ingot by ingot, the way you say its as if calw completed the projects within one week of awakening guiliman and did so without any kind of equip at his disposition and had to rush for a emergency cargo haul at a discount
You are in no way prepared for just how much piss Cawl is taking. The argument he makes to the Mechanichus when they hold an informal trial as to if he is guilty of innovation and invention in Gene Father is an experience.
It took me forever to understand you were saying orchid eight
Just gonna mention it, Cawl took part in the 21st Founding to... """"""""""experiment"""""""""" with Space Marine geneseed.
So... yeah. Cawl might be *partly* responsible for the Lamenters, the Fire Hawks and the Black Dragons. xD
Aw hell naw he put all the spare unlucky from the blueberries into the lamenters to see what happens
"Whoops, lmao"
I swear guys, he had no part in experimenting weird stuff on Space Marines. Oh no. No surree. X)
Cawl and Bile teaming up would be the scariest thing ever, those 2 together could solve nearly all of the Imperium's problems (by using tons and tons of heretical stuff).
Commander Dante when? he rules half the imperium, maybe important?
14:45 There was once (he's still alive I think) a dude who had decided his ball bladder was causing him problems and no doctor would do the surgery so he ...did it himself, or at least he tried. He did the whole sterilization thing made a clean room, used minimum anesthetics, opened himself up and right at getting to the gall bladder (its under the liver) he started to pass out, and thus panicked. I would NOT be the 911 call person for this if you payed me $1 Million dollars. Aka this is not a DYI project.
"Excuse me sir you are in the middle of a what?!?!"
Im so proud of DK remembering the legion numbers for the missing primarchs
Reminds me of jumba when he created Stitch in Lilo and Stitch
'I would NEVER EVER... make more than one?...'
I like to think the guileman inferior is just a buzz lightyear.
The Guilliman clone AI’s name is totally Robot Gorillaglueman
I have always loved the idea of admech, and was given a small Ad mech army as a birthday present. I absolutely loved Cawl as he represented the extremeity of what Admech is. Now i love him even more because he is the best inventor and respresentation of "I think, therefore, I am." And Dr Hyde "I need to know. I will go where no angel will go."
The cawl inferior refers to itself as bellsarius cawl so when it speaks to guilliman it is talking about itself but makes it seem like it's talking about the actual cawl so Robute is like wtf is going on.
Cawl is just your entire D&D party.
I love how DK is like "If chaos found out Cawl had all the primarch's geneseed he'd be target #1" and that's literally the concept of the Belisarius vs Fabius Bile book
Stumbled across Cawl in one of the very late Horus Heresy novels "Wolfsbane", and i find it interesting that he basically took the body style of his old heretic boss by the time the modern era came, despite having started out viewing that remaining mostly human was important
To be fair, nothing human would be able to last 10,000 years. As far as he cares, "He is Cawl, Cawl is a human. Nothing matters beyond that."
Cawl is 10 humans stapled together so he's 10x more human
Cawls not a heretek. He's an agnostek
My favorite bit about Cawl's Roboute AI is it knows it is an AI and that is bad, so it begins every conversation by screaming at Cawl to destroy him.
I feel like if they didn’t read genefather then I think they’re going to greatly misunderstand him, how he works, what kind of scientist he is, and how he politics.
They had an earlier video talking about gene father
You mean like pulling enough equipment for 900000 marines, I think it's pretty clear how he works. Plot holes generators and easy coincidences. He just happens to be the only dude that is that old and can innovate, not stopped by the inquisition, or the gene banks of terra, he just is that good. Great men do great things, but Cawl seems to be the greatest in every field. Mary sue.
@@tarektechmarine8209My favorite thing about 40k is how people dramatically misunderstand how the imperium works so whenever a person is capable of anything they’re just a Mary Sue it’s great
@@kmoney890 So you're telling me that all those other forge worlds have the capacity to make 900000 marines? Why haven't they? What stops innovation when cawl can? I'm not misunderstanding, it's written to fit his mary sue story. I dislike him more than any character, so no. it isn't misunderstanding. It's trying to understand how a backwards thinking imperium would allow cawl to exist yet somehow the rest can't innovate. Why don't we have hover tanks before cawl if you claim I fail to understand. Better yet, help me understand because I don't think you even can.
@@kmoney890people don’t understand what mars is and how they work.
interesting they bring up the ship of theseus with cawl as if humans don't replace their entire bodies every 7 years already
Lets also not forget the Covenant of Fire, the hyper religious Primaris chapter who love book burnings and are clearly Salamanders and totally not secretly Word Bearers
Can't believe Guilliman has an Ai chat bot of Cawl in his ship and vice versa
I also love that cawl has been illegally upgrading himself with xenos tech as well
16:08 “maybe we’ll do an episode on arken land…” and what’s gotta be next after that? An episode on Jimmy Space😂
And then another on James Workshop
16:40 Shy continues to absolutely deliver with the memes 😂😂😂😂
If Bricky had a even a single shred of style to him, the quote for this episode would have been:
"I am Belisarius Cawl. And I can do anything."
"I took two limitless pills to limit myself" Sounds like some shit Dracula Flow would say
Im sure the reason for all those convoluted security measures is mostly to make sure that Uwuman only bothers the Inferor if its absolutely necessary
Man, imagine if Arkhan Land was named Arkhan Water and have a heavy ground tank named Water's Raider
Fun fact: chimeras had the aquatic keyword in older editions
I like to imagine the Cawl Inferior as this little plush doll of Cawl with a string on the back that you pull to make it talk
I like to think Cawl keeps the Gene Seed of every primarch, in an archaeotech GE refrigerator, in what was once an employee breakroom.
No one knows about it because no one is allowed to take breaks in the Imperium.
Aahh yes, my favourite Imperium sanctioned technoheretic
Talking about Astarte and Arkhan Land, all I can think of is "ALTMAN BE PRAISED".
23:00
For the whole Soma aside it's important to realize that they're under an insane amount of stress and it's implied that he's actively stopping himself from processing the full implications of the process.
remember that cawl has his own necron waifu trapped in a box
For Cawl on tabletop, he's currently the only way to get rerolls for vehicles, so combined with the BS and weapon buffs the Cawl Castle is kinda back in force. Three neutron lasers and a smattering of laser chickens surrounding Cawl, throw in an Engineer or two for those sweet sweet 5+ fnp saves, and you're laughing all the way up the board. If you wanna be extra spicy simply hold still and you'll be hitting on 2s rerolling 1s, and one of the Skitarii Hunter enhancements let's you choose any Skitarii unit to have both protocols active so you can throw that onto someone as well for the added AP.
Overall Admech can actually be quite spooky again and it feels wonderful
So Cawl built himself a personal Himbo Guilliman huh
Marky Mark "what? no!" Gif was perfect lol
Just cosplayed as a Techpriest in a recent convention, this is a great consolation prize.
22:49 you gotta remember that in SOMA the main character is not just a copy of a guy, he is a copy of guy with terminal brain damage.
Guilliman getting flashbanged when trying to read the astropaths lips is fucking hilarious, its like a kid reaching for candy and getting slapped on the hand. Besides the image of this towering demigod getting flashed, grimacing and trying to shield his eyes with his handis just funny
Congrats on painting cawl I put him together but now he's just standing there, on my shelf, ominously
Belisarius now something different than the original Cawl, but its largely still his will, his self was altered by the other personalities absorbed, but Cawls sense of self one out. Not the original, but more him than the others.
I really wanna see a Salamander Techmarine! I dunno if theyre a thing but I feel that the chapter that has the most appreciation for crafting armor and weapons would want the admec around.
In my only war- dark heresy- imperium malecdictum campaign, party have made friends with a group or death watch marines.
We have a white scar tech marine that just loves souping shit up to go faster.
I can confirm that salamanders do have tech marines but I don't think there's any that are named
@@mederiksirois4199 Disappointing but to be expected knowing GW lol
The coin flip in Soma is whether the bit of consciousness that is you right now transfers over. Like how you transfer over earlier in the story and have to decide to kill your first clone or not. Its implied if you leave him, he will wake up again and still be the Simon you were playing.
I think my favorite parts of this episode is the parts where DK remembers the legions numbers for once.
It might be good to note that none of the Primearchs have any issue with new technology, its just a cult mechanicus thing. Caul has also been alive longest so he can calm anything as old tech and none of the cult can really challenge him, especially since he doesn't share how he got the plans to develop anything