Crokinole - Shut Up & Sit Down Review
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I love Crokinole so much that it would the first thing I'd grab in the event of a fire, sorry kids! I'm kidding, I don't have any kids. At least not since that last fire....
Bahahaha. Brilliant comment 🤣🤣🤣
@@clvrswine You're not the Fun Police, mate.
Hahahahahaha
390 people disagree so far. The actual worst thing about comment sections are assholes who think people really want to hear their asshole thoughts
lmao
I hope you are proud of yourself, I've had people bugging me to come to my house for a year now ever since I listened to you and paid too much for some wood
Ha! I've been struggling to get people to play games with me! Maybe I should get one 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah sure ... it's not bad - but have you tried Crokinole?
Seeing some meme potential here...
“Yeah babe that was pretty good, but have you tried Crokinole?”
@@JKT84 I'm in! Gonna comment that everywhere :)
I prefer the *real* crokinole
Sleep is good. But have you tried watching a Crokinole video?
Have y'all tried carrom / carrambole?
5:33 It's curling! Canadians invented table-curling for the summer time when the ice has melted, okay? There, I said it. We love gliding heavy objects across smooth surfaces - it's a national neurosis.
Based on this reviews its shared by all of humanity but we dont all have ice to revolve most of our sport around it
I don't think you can pick up curling in 60 seconds though.
Or store a set in your house.
:P
@@YayapLives You don't need curling in your house when everything outside of you house is covered in a thick sheet of ice
just like a good joke sliding right off my bald head
And then it came full circle when someone made crokinole on ice which was basically just round curling with posts.
Are there any expansions worth buying
@@lithosphereX There are expansions for Chess, though
Rhys Ocean are there any expansions to chess worth buying
Not sure if people here are being whooshed or if they’re just great at counter sarcasm
No, but the Kickstarter exklusives were soooooo great! If you didn't back it in 1876 ... well, tough luck finding them.
yep, playing on a chess board
What if Stonehenge was just a giant crokinole stadium?
jungleng well, then it would absolutely no bearing on my life, or yours I think!
Wow the one logical hypothesis ancient aliens hasn't covered... sounds like a probable conclusion
Stonehenge was but they used human heads instead of disks. Modern European Football is a combination of Carrom and Stonehenge.
Dominoes tournament, mate.
Bro you are fucking right !! Thats gotta be
"Buy" this set? You don't buy a crokinole board, your grandpa makes one in his garage.
I am so jealous.
I'm out of grandpas. Can I borrow yours?
Yeah, I think it's a Canadian thing where you just sort of... inherit one.
He either bought off a Mennonite in Perth County or it didn't happen.
I had the misfortune of being born to a blacksmith. Maybe Crokinole 2.0 can be wrought iron...
I loved this! My late husband Wayne Kelly wrote The Crokinole Book years ago. He had his own business as Mr Crokinole for 2 decades. Now my son is carrying on the business as Crokinole Inc. . Loved your board!
A crockinle expert should be called a "Crockinole-it-all"
Crockinone-in-one.
Crock-Heads?
Well played.
Came back here to comment that after watching this video years ago, my father and I decided we wanted to try the game and that a fun way to do that would be to just make a board. We started back in 2020, around a week before lockdown here in the U.S. and, working consistently but only in small chunks on the weekends, we finished after about a year. The game has spread so much joy to everyone who plays it, just like SU&SD does with your videos, articles, and events. Thank you for all you do and for introducing this gem to me.
Fun fact for those who live in Asia, Taobao lists this as "Canadian Chess"加拿大棋
I don't know why I'm suprised Taobao sells it but thay makes me happy.
@@Rivaldi530 The reviews on the site says that the quality is a bit iffy. Not entirely tournament quality yet.
I have never heard it called that before! very cool I will be dropping that fact when ever I play!
I live in China and Crokinole is already on my Taobao cart juts waiting for my next paycheck 😂😂
I feel like that's an insult to Canadians, considering how little this has in common with chess...
this is the first video of yours i've seen, lets just say I was not expecting to be so entertained as i was
That's a pretty expensive board.
If you had just gone into the storage room of your closest Canadian buddy, you could've harvested a fresh one and the seeds for cheap.
Truefacts: if you plant one of the disks in the floorbords of a storage room/shed, it'll grow into a new board the next summer with some pods full of disks for further planting/playing.
But yeah, croknoile is best played on the old and not fully smooth boards... the ones with more character then the crotchety grandfather you inherited it from. bonus points if a peg fell out and was replaced with a screw or nail.
I'm from south-western ontario, never seen a board so smooth like this one
This is what has prevented me from ever really trying this game despite watching RUclips videos of it and it seeming like it'd be exactly my kind of thing. There's just zero rational reason for the boards to be so expensive. I know, I've worked with wood before, there's no reason that should cost hundreds of dollars.
Love this game and as a Canadian i remember fondly playing it at grandma's house, and one day i found a store in the mall selling a relatively cheap board for about 75$, so i bought and as i walked through the mall taking it to my car, i was stopped 3 times by people asking where i got the board from.
I as well have fond memories playing it at my Grandma’s house. I actually saw a board in the window of a Salvation Army a little while ago, I should have bought it. Especially considering how expensive they are, I had no idea!
The advantage of living in Canada is that you will always know someone with a well-loved, old-ass Crokinole board kicking around at their cottage. The disadvantage is that 99% of your Crokinole games will be played on boards in very rough shape.
Yeah, I've played Crokinole my whole life on tons of boards, but never seen a waxed board with gliss powder in my life. But, they're also way cheaper if you buy the less slippery versions.
Hyperbole much. I'm Canadian. Never seen a Crokinole board in person my entire life. No one in my family or friends families has this or probably heard of it. It's not as wide spread as you say.
@@alcovitch Its an eastern Canada thing. My mom from Toronto was all about it. My dad, from Vancouver, had never heard of it in his life before meeting her. Its like Euchre that way.
@@alcovitch Yeah, it kind of is. At least here in Ontario, and Western Quebec. Your experience appears to be atypical
@@alcovitch I'm from Manitoba and everyone here has heard about it and have played it. Heck, I even see boards at flea markets. I think the game was invented in northern Ontario/Manitoba region. Maybe that's why it popular here.
Random video in my feed just cost me $300...
Quinns. Quinns.
Quinns.
What are you doing mate. Hang it on the wall. Baffle guests. "What's that?" "Oh sir or madam let me introduce it through the medium of smackdowns."
Don't tell me you run this gaff without being the kind of chap who gets giggles from introducing people to obscure delights.
i imagine london walls are made of paper mache
Richard G just don’t let anyone throw darts at it
I can't believe this was June 2019.. time really does fly by...
Time?...Mr.Freeman?
I'm from the year 4189
Crokinole is the world's most favorite game
Pretty long time for me
I know everyone has different experiences but when I visited Canada they didn't have ANY circles.
Rubbish. We have plenty of circles and we are proud of them.
That must have been during the spring of 07, everything went pear shaped
Come to Manitoba next time! We play a giant version using crop circles. It gets . . . messy.
Ironically this very day 10 years ago was when the squares conquered the circles. It's a very sad day in Canadian history that they refuse to teach in schools
all the knowledge I have about Canada comes from South Park, so I assume everything is right angled up there.
Since it wasn't explained, here's the neat thing about scoring:
With the one simple rule of your score being the difference in points, you don't have to count each disc;
Just remove any two opposing discs with the same point value, since they cancel each other out, and then count any left over.
It's a simple and easy rule to teach and remember, and results in fast and easy scoring -- genius!
I dont understand.
@@an3582 you take away equal amounts from both players to make the difference more and more obvious.
@@an3582 Let's say there are 3 red discs and 2 blue discs in the 5 point area. Remove a red and blue disc until there are no opposing discs; in that case, 1 red disc is left behind on the board. Then go to the 10 point area and repeat the process; if there was 1 red and 1 blue, remove both so there's nothing in that area. 15 point area, 0 red 1 blue, leave the blue on the board.
This comment exists to increase engagement, make this video more popular, and force them to review Jump Rope
I normally don't comment, but this is a) a brilliant idea and b) also a comment for youtube metrics. Review Jump Rope! Or even better, chess!
I like the idea, but I want them to review and do a play through of corn holing ;)
Something something Settlers of Catan.
And miss out on a 30 minute Marbles review.
You must be off your pegs mate.
@@jonathanlane444 I'm getting playground flashbacks myself now.
I wonder I how many children learnt the cruel lesson that sometimes people will just beat you and take all you have, over that terruble glass and chalk.
I was very intrigued by this game after watching this video, but I wasn’t sure I wanted to have to store a board of that size regardless of how much it cost.
Yesterday, I was at an arcade with some friends. We were at the bar and there was a bunch of tokens sitting in the middle of the table, so we started flicking the tokens around the table. In a fit of mirth I exclaimed, “It’s just like Crokinole!” As a result of the ensuing conversation, I shared this video on my FB wall. Long story short (too late) a friend commented on my post that there’s a board like that at his work and nobody knows what it’s for.
He says he’s going to graciously offer to take it away so it’s not “cluttering up the office any more”. (He’s such a selfless guy.)
So when Crokinole becomes all the rage in Central Texas, you’ll know you’re to blame.
Hang the crokinole board in the Louvre, ooh, on the wall of your playroom.
This morning: researching low risk investments to help me save up for a deposit.
After watching this video: researching the shiniest crokinole boards known to man.
Dis the exact same thing
Same here
Get a mid-level! The shiny ones are pretty, but a little friction is actually a good thing, in my books.
@@keithklassen5320
Got min from mayday and I'm really happy with it
I know this sounds silly, but I've rewatched this like five times now over five months. I'm Canadian, and it just makes me feel nice and warm to have this weird bit of wood-fetishism praised.
Preach!! I’m on 3 this far. Just made some family members watch to get them on board
Same here. The eva bit with shinji is gold. YEG
Same. It's so great.
I keep torturing myself with this video because I’d love to get a board but don’t think anyone I know would be remotely interested.
That was the best Evangelion reference I’ve ever heard
"GET BACK PLAYING CROKINOLE SHINJI!"
I was driving in my ikari when I heard it and lol'd myself into parkinsons
@@technom22 HIT THE CROKINOLE QUINNJI
Better acting that's for sure lol
11:00 :)
I'm going to refer to Ontario as "The Bog of Souls" from now on.
Yes!!! Pipe Down & Take a Chair is back baby!!!
Brilliant story on the Tracey Boards site about how this You Tube video basically saved the business when it was first starting. Bought my first board about 2 weeks ago and am addicted as are anyone who comes to my place and plays. 3 weeks ago I’d never heard of it. Loved the video, the game is amazing and worth the investment though this board looks like an ice rink
I hear that Crokinole Legacy is climbing the BGG charts!
It comes with a power drill and the winner of each round may drill a new peg into the 300$ board.
Drop a piece off the board and it's gone. So you might be playing at a disadvantage for the next game.
@@KrystianMajewski Come on, man! No spoiler!
The Eva line nearly killed me. Great work as always lads, we made a pair of boards DIY in response. Cant get them nearly as smooth but $50 was an okay compromise.
Lol I'm a tad surprise you didn't already have a lab coat after all these years.
Always loved this game... the best part is that it’s one of those games that easily crosses ages an generations. Last family get together we had a tournament that included ages 76 to 6. The 76-year-old put us all to shame... I guess experience matters! Any game that makes you trash talk your grandkids can’t be that bad.
Coming up: Matt reviews billiards.
How did I end up here? Thanks to RUclips for an introduction to a game I've never heard of.
Thats how we all found Shut up and Sit Down. Get comfortable, you're here forever.
"All the grace of an old man bellowing into a yoghurt" legitimately made me laugh out loud and, because it's flu season, quickly devolve into hacking coughs and wheezing.
As a young adult, instead of dreading extended family Xmas dinner gatherings, with those relatives you only see once a year, i looked forward to the Crokinole tournament that was inevitable. A good part of the fun was the comments from the peanut gallery.
It looks OKAY, I'm personally gonna wait for the fantasy flight cthulhu edition.
If Crokinole is so good, why isn't there a Crokinole 2?
Woah, surprise mid-review green disc!
My Grandmother was an astounding crokinole player. If she had a free shot at the pocket, might as well just give her the twenty points.
I hadn’t played for years. Work, school, work, dating, work, you know what I mean. No time for games.
My wife had never played but after hearing my brothers and I revel in our youthful crokinole memories, she surprised me one day with a beautiful, handmade beechwood board. Family get togethers now regularly include a crokinole tournament. So many sore fingers. So much beer. So much profanity. So much fun.
Sadly this was his last video. The pull of Crokinole was just too strong to play anything else. Addiction is a bad thing...
The best part of Crokinole is how everyone thinks you are an idiot for talking about how great this game is. Then they play it.
Couple of notes. The discs are convex on one side and concave on the other. So you have a fast side and a slow side. You can get a board for about $90 that is serviceable. And you don't store your board. You display it. Attach a z-hanger (aka french cleat) to the back and hang it on the wall. You'll need to add feet to the back of the board so the hanger doesn't tilt the board when it's on the table. This means you'll have to have the guts to put screws into the thing you just spend $300 on. But then you'll have a glorious piece of art on the wall. And people will say "Is that some kind of folk art?" And you can say, "Sort of. It's a game called Crokinole." They will say, "Is it fun?"
"Ahhh," you say, taking the board down, "Let's see..."
Great review. I have since purchased a Crokinole board and it has gone down well with pretty much everyone (including my 4 year old son who shouts "That's Crocodile" everytime he sinks a disk...).
Alright SU&SD now you have to go all the way and do a lawn games review series. Cornhole, KanJam, Bocce Ball, Ladder ball, Horseshoes the whole shebang. Please make this happen!!!
Kownoejb Here’s your review/rankings:
1) Bocce Ball - king of the lawn games. Has everything: strategy, physicality, great for teams or 1v1, and there could be obstacles depending on where the small ball ends up.
2) CornHole - Simple, easy to learn, hard to master, portable for taking anywhere.
3) Horseshoes - Not as good as CornHole, but still a fun game. Less portable makes it a notch below.
4) Ladder Ball - Why play this when CornHole is available? The Dane Cook of lawn games.
5) KanJam - I had to look this one up and have never played it. Therefore it is garbage.
I would love to see this
What about finska
Over the last 20 years I have spent thousands on games. Of all those purchases the one that I'm most glad I made is Crokinole. Every single person I have introduced it to has loved it. It is the ultimate dexterity game and it works as an ideal filling to play while your waiting for everyone to arrive. Just keep in mind that it might turn out to be the only game you play that night.
After watching this over 15 times since you released it, I got my board for Christmas. It’s sooooo good. Great fun with all ages.
It amazes me that you didn't mention curling once during this review as it is essentially a curling rink on a table top, I guess you haven't played it
Though it's also very much like shuffleboard or a variety of other classic flicking games - Carrom for example, or the Canadian version Pichenotte. There are also specifically curling dexterity games now, so there's flavours for everyone's tastes-but it would be an awful lot to cover in one video.
Our local sports club adores this game. So much so that we will play this game over committee meetings, take it along to almost every tournament.
And all because of this very video 😊
That you did this entire review without once mentioning Curling is proof of your malevolence >:|
DID YOU JUST FRICKING MAKE AN EVANGELION REFERENCE IN A CROKINOLE VIDEO???
I enjoyed this one, but it's always going to be an awkward sell when the board is a literal piece of high end furniture.
And I figured that sure, it doesn’t have to be quite that nice...
but it kinda does, doesn’t it?
This video just cost me £400...
I enjoy your videos already but this one is so amazing from a writing/production/Quinns standpoint. Laughed so hard through a game I wouldn't expect to like (but now want to buy, damn you).
It's funny to hear about the expensive version. As a Canadian we had one of these stuffed under our couch for most of my childhood, but it wasn't anything like this glossy-boy. It had an octogonal glued frame rather than a delicate curve, and while the playing surface was round, it was just melamine mdf glued to the frame with plastic pegs. The discs were simply stained wood circles. The whole thing couldn't have cost more than $50, and you could use the pieces as checkers pieces on the checkerboard that was printed on the reverse side.
So there wasn't the same glidey experience, for sure. It was not like ice on ice. And there was definitely no powder. But you just adjusted to the board you played on. You flicked harder to go further, and even harder to knock someone clear. Still pretty good!
Same! We had the same sort of thing in a weathered old flat box that was missing more cardboard then it still had. I remember bugging my dad to play it with me and I'd pull it out from behind our china cabinet. Great memories.
They may be cheap but last forever too! She got it when she was 12 and passed it on to me last xmas before i moved to the other side of the province (and it survived the move in just a box even when my protected to shit monitor didnt!)
My grandparents had an old wood board with no varnish at all and nails driven in for pegs. Someone sanded the middle hole down to make it a bit easier for a center. It was quite a different different game than the glossier plastic board they later bought and I haven't really taken to the slick boards. Haven't seen one quite like their old one though
Used to play this as a kid 35 years ago, and just recently picked up a board again. Found an antique one in a market in great condition for $60. Later learned it's almost 100 years old, and the same as one in the local museum. I definitely recommend checking the markets for used ones. You are correct in all accounts on how addictive it is to play.
As a Canadian, I can confirm that the Crokiole history lesson was 100% accurate. We even get around with our cars precariously balanced on circles.
The hockey puck itself is also just a crokinole piece. We flick it with sticks. The only thing that changed is the size of the playing board.
Even the swearing is the same.
I bet you could liven up the 3-4 player action by wrapping rubber bands between pairs of the board's pegs, 4 bands would create an entryway for each player to shoot through but 4 soft walls for players to hide behind or bounce against :D
yeah sex is cool. But have you played *crokinole?*
What a nice little preview of Tom around 6:15
That joke kind of made me wonder what a review of chess would actually sound like. But I'm sure that's a common joke request, so I'll just wonder it.
Crokinole is huge where I live. I manage a brewery and several people asked me "Why don't you have Crokinole..." in a tone that made me feel like I was crazy.
I never thought a RUclips video would cause me to spend hundreds of dollars on wood, but here we are. I can't stop playing Crokinole. Send help!
GET BACK IN EVA SHINJI!
Saying this now, in hopes of helping my fellow Weird Uncles.
If you have a sister or brother with multiple kids, this is the BEST family/group gift.
It's fun, it's decorative, it's guaranteed to bring the family face-to-face, it's a great way for brothers and sisters to work out aggression without getting too physical.
You look cool for bringing a big gift to the family jam, and you provide a guaranteed activity if the evening carries on.
10/10 Will buy again.
I've put it off for years..... now I NEED a Crokinole board.
Try crokinolegameboards they are the best
I drunk purchased a set from Woodestic after watching this video and I have absolutely no regrets, other than the fact that my jeans end up covered in gliss powder every time
Oh man, that scream you heard was everyone in New England shouting in joy when you said you were reviewing Cornhole...and then were suddenly silenced when you said just kidding :(
Obi wan, is that you??
Crow-kin-ole
Source: Canadian
Haha, I scrolled to see what Canadian corrected this.
Yes! That bugged me the whole time. Lol Other than that it was a great review.
So glad to see a more main stream reviewer doing a Crokinole review. Anyone interested in buying should defineltey check out CrokinoleGameBoards.com, they've got the best quality boards and the price really is great for what you're getting. They even have pro tips and tricks up on RUclips to get you better at the game.
As a Canadian, I'm glad you finally covered this. But have you played extreme crokinole? It's when you put the board on a lazy Susan and spin in like crazy
You haven't lived until you've played Extreme Crokinole on a merry go round.
The disks are called ‘biscuits’ and quality biscuits have a concave and a convex side. One for slow sticking shots and one for fast shots. You will often see players spin the biscuit to see which side it’s on.
Good to know!!
That may be true for your region but around here they're called 'Flemmets'. As you can imagine, hollering 'I've put my Flemmet in the hole' sounds so much better then 'I've put my biscuit in the hole'. Thank you.
@@bradcrossman5068 Flemmets? Interesting. Where is “around here” if you don’t mind me asking?
@@mikekollross8810 Eastern Canada, Southern New Brunswick
What I love about Crokinole is that whatever you do, the game lasts 12 shots. If you are bad at pitch car, or other flicking games, the game just lasts longer.. This one lasts the same amount of time anyway, and it's basically impossible to not have crazy things happening in those games. Every single time I find myself wishing I was filming those games. Way more fun than you'd think.
I learned crokinole from a full-blooded Canadian, back when I worked at my FLGS in college. She hustled me like some non-chalant billiards queen and I've never beaten her since. Still, the game is gorgeous to look at and a marvel to play... if you have the cash to drop on one.
Canadians invented crokinole so they could go curling without leaving the house
I only just watched this review despite noticing it for a while, because being reminded of Crokinole always makes me feel a bit weird and guilty; my grandmother got a board some time back but we only played together once I think, despite her interest in it. She's dead now, and seeing this game pretty much always brings back those "wish I had done more with her" feelings.
I'll have to see if I can find the board back at my dad's or grandfather's place (not sure where it wound up) sometime and pull it out. Not sure if there's a good place for it where I'm living now, but...
That's sad but at the same time, start playing, start getting people into it! She will be proud of you!
Fairly common thing to find in Canadian cottages... watching this video really made me appreciate it much more. Damn fun to play when you're drinking, by the way.
Born and raised Canadian here. I have no idea if this is right, but I grew up on the pronunciation "Croak-in-oh."
Growing up in Southern Ontario I have heard both.
Well, I think that with our accent it's usually pronounced "Croak-in-ole"
Also born, raised and still Canadian... we also always have said "Croakinoh"..!
I have only heard the same pronunciation.
Youre right on that one
I saw this video over a year ago and I thought it would be cool to make my own board. I saw it again just a few months ago and now I am the proud owner of my own handmade Crokinole board! Thank you for being inspiring and entertaining!
I remember my grandpa telling me about when the circle finally came to Canada. Good times!🍻🇨🇦
This was my first Shut Up & Sit Down video and I am thoroughly sold. Liked and subscribed. 👌
I'm now watching the Conan review and am having a blast. Cheers! 😊
A series of you reviewing old board games would be fantastic. I'd love to learn more about others we may not have heard of!
THIS! ^^^
Sir, excuse me, aren't you the one who caused the global resurgence of a 150 year old historic Canadian dexterity game. Teach me how to be funny and deeply relevant like you were and still are.
Also still waiting on that jump rope, marbles, and cornhole review.
This is from my home. It is in every pub. It is incredible. Tavistock represent!
Game of feelings eh'.
Here in the lone star state... I can envision an opponent being dropped kicked or at worst gettin' an eyeball sucked outta' their head. This would never occur in our checker games.
That was a real SUSD-deep-cut pronunciation of "Wikipedia" there. I screamed with laughter.
Huge throwback to SUSD christmas
Just got my board from Tracey Boards this past weekend and nearly ruined our D&D session by playing a few rounds while waiting for the last party member to arrive.
Addictive indeed! 😅
No place to store it? Hang it on your bloody wall! (Did I use that right? I'm not British)
You nailed it!
Mine is on my wall not far from where I type this :D
Yesssss. Crokinole boards are so pretty... they are such display pieces, both in play and at rest. Lookit that beautiful piece of wood!!
Plus you can buy clock faces that fit in the middle.
@@bateriayvr8988 same!
Canadians love to slide things around. It must be the readily available ice and rocks.
RUclips algorithm had me watching crokinole tournaments a few months ago. Glad I wasnt crazy for sitting threw a two hour video.
Would a review of "Go" be possible in the future?
Same here, and it was awesome! 😁
Well Go is a bit old by now. Anyone who doent know the game yet doesnt deserve it either.
I guess dreams do come true, huh?
Thank you for making me want a £300 game
...so its finger curling? No wonder the Canadians thought of it..I love it...
"This shot is so hard."
Quinns sinks it...
"This shot is darn near impossible!"
Quinns sinks it...
Lol
Just too good.
I have definitely had more fun playing my $99 "affordable" Mayday crokinole board than numerous equally/more expensive kickstarters stuffed with exclusive stretch-goal expansions that "exclusively" stay in their boxes because I don't have the patience to teach added rules while also trying to teach the base game. Some of the best gaming money I've ever spent.
This video became fourth most popular on the entire channel, so when are you reviewing the corn hole, and skipping rope ? :-D
Just in time for Canada Day
one of my grandpas favorites. My wife and I played a 2 hour game once and were still tied at zero at the end. Also, that Evangelion reference was wonderful.
So that's what my parents have been keeping in our Canadian cellar since the 70s!
Videogame: 60 bucks
Me: eehhh that’s a bit too expensive
Crokinole: 300 bucks
Me: ooo I want that
There was about a week in my life when I was really into watching top level Crokinole, and some people are troublingly good at Crokinole. It's like a whole nother game when they sink shots nine times out of ten.
Yeah, that lasted only a week for me too, like a normal person... Yeah...
This review made me buy a Canadian Crokinole board. The price was a pain in the bum, especially the shipping to the Netherlands, but damn it's good fun with friends!