Canon 6D Repair Series - Video #4, Replacing The Shutter Curtains
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- How to replace the shutter curtains on a Canon 6D camera and other Canon DSLR cameras.
(Important: The replacement of two small washers shown at 7:50 and 8:10 are incorrect. The correct location for them is shown at 2:30 and 2:40, on the other side of the small piece of paper.)
This is part of a multi-video series showing you how to work on and repair a Canon EOS 6D full frame camera. The links for my screw layout diagrams and the links to the other videos are listed below the description. (Click "Show More" to see them)
You can download the screw layout diagrams that are used in this video series, using these links:
DIagram #1:
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Diagram #2:
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- Video #1, Getting Inside The Camera
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- Video #2, Removing The Circuit Boards
• Canon 6D Repair Series...
- Video #3, Removing The CCD/Mirror Box/Shutter Assembly
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- Video #4, Replacing The Shutter Blade Curtains
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- Video #5, Putting It All Back Together
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This is one of the best, most well explained step-by-step videos I've ever seen on RUclips about anything. Wow!!!!!!! Thank you.
Thank you! I'm glad that it has helped you out.
So canon doesn’t have to reset anything after the shutter assembly is replaced on the 1dx mark ii?
I don't want to care risk 😅😹
YES!!! Thank you, finally a detailed video where you show all the small springs and screwes being put back together. My courtain broke after just 60k on count, a week after my guarantee expired...
I hope the video helps you out! And I hope that you have seen the notice that I put in the description about how I put the two small washers in the wrong place during the re-assembly, and it also tells where they should have been.
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thanks for this video.. can you make a video about shutter curtains replacement of nikon d7100 too?
I don't have one to work on right now , but I hope to do some repair videos for Nikons too. I'll take a look at the d7100.
Do you know the name error, in Canon Code xxxx of this repair? My camera starts to show Error 30 using live view. Nice tutorial. Thank you
Err 30 is "Malfunctions related to the shutter have been detected.". That error code has happened to me twice, and both times it was from a tear in one of the shutter curtains preventing the shutter from opening or closing properly.
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Not wark USB port.....
What is the solution....
Thank you. I don't think I've ever seen a better or even comparable repair video with such clarity, detail, and understanding of what those unfamiliar with the task they're about to take on are facing. I don't know anyone with less than a decade's experience who knows to load a tiny washer onto the driver.
Where do I get shutter curtains to buy ?
Thank you so much! These videos are amazing. Where do I find new screws? Any online store you know?
Hi. I'm glad the videos are helpful to you. I get all of my parts for the Canon cameras on eBay. I'm sure that someone on there will have screws available for it.
When working with the springs, a wooden tooth-pick answers well to control the dynamic tensions.
Sounds interesting. Can you explain more about how you're using one for that?
Thank you! Very helpful video! But I have one question: Washers on 2:30 and 2:40 reassembled not in the same positions (7:50 and 8:10), or I missed something? What's right position?
Oh ya, that sucks. I have it wrong at 7:50 / 8:10. The correct washer placement is shown at 2:30 / 2:40. The washers create the needed space for the curtains to move, and also when they are stacked (open). I will create an updated video for this. Thanks very much for pointing that out. - Bob
have you encounter wifi not working on 6d camera? when i turned on wifi, screen was stuck,
No I haven't run into that problem, but I don't use the WiFi feature all that much either. Looking online I see that particular problem appearing a lot, with some different ways to address it. Some people cleared the WiFi settings on the camera and then set it up again, and that fixed it. Others said downloading a new app for the device they are connecting to fixed it for them. They also had to rename the camera in the settings when they did that. Have you tried either of these methods yet?
Also, I did see where another person was able to get their WiFi running again using this method. Here's their post:
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Re: EOS 6D wifi just stopped working
I figured it out! Not sure if this is a design flaw or what but if I have wifi enabled then select the Q menu and go to the wifi icon and select it then choose connect to device it works. Seems a little wierd, I would think the wifi function menue should override this especially when all wifi setting are reset but I guess not. Hopefully this helps someone else down the road.
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Let me know how you make out with this problem.
-Bob
Excellent work.
I have a question, I hope I have time to answer.
The on/off switch on the 5D Mark II camera I use is stuck in the ON position, so I can't turn the camera off and I can't activate Quick Control Dial 1, how can I fix this?
I appreciate your shared experience.
Greetings from El Salvador.
Unfortunately I'm not familiar with the 5D series at all. If the power switch is anything like the power switch on a 6D, then you will need to remove the top part of the camera to get access to the underside. From there hopefully you can see what may be the problem with the switch. Here's a link to the location in video #1 that shows the underside of the switch when the top is removed. It also shows all of the needed steps prior to geting there. ruclips.net/video/tUl9cV5GA4M/видео.html Good luck with it!
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Thank you very much for responding to my call for help.
I think my camera needs a new on/off switch. So I see myself in the obligation to send it to the technical service.
Once again, thank you very much for answering me.
Greetings from El Salvador.
Hello, dear Robert! I used your lesson to replace the blinds on my camera. If I hadn't found it, I would never have dared to climb there on my own) Thank you very much for your work. But, could you advise or suggest what I did wrong? After assembly, the display shows information that the battery is low and the camera does not turn on. Please tell me what I did wrong?
Hi Pavel. The first thing that I would check is the connection of the flat ribbon cable to the metal plate which goes inside the battery compartment. Here is a link to video #5 which shows the flat ribbon cable being reconnected: ruclips.net/video/k7vD49HkeqE/видео.html. The piece of metal that the flat ribbon cable makes contact with goes inside the battery compartment and makes contact with the battery. It is used to get information back from the battery about it's current voltage level. If the flat ribbon cable is not properly connected to it, then it cannot read the battery condition. Double check that connection, and also visually check to make sure that are aren't any tears in the flat ribbon cable at all. That would also create the same problem. Hopefully it's just a simple problem and easily fixed. Let me know what you find.
@@Thebobfactor Thanks for the feedback! I will re-disassemble the camera in about a couple of weeks, and I will definitely let you know what happened! Thank you again for the work you have done!
Thank you very much. Could you please send me a link to the EOS 6D Service Manual?
How much cost to replace ??
You'll need to check the price from where ever you decide to buy the curtains at.
Our tech replaced my canon 6d mark 2 with a shutter curtain from the canon 6d mark 1 now it's leaving a line on top every time I take photos.
Hello, great tutorial!
I got one question, will it work without any problem like when it was new?
I mean is there will be a difference between new DSLR and DSLR with replaced shutter?
Great Video, thank you! As I am afraid not to be able to put everything back I am looking forward for the Video #5 before trying myself!
I should have that video uploaded within a week. I'm glad they are helpful to you!
Valerio, I uploaded video #5 today. I hope it helps you out. Here's a link to it. ruclips.net/video/k7vD49HkeqE/видео.html
@@Thebobfactor Dear Robert, I am back to my studio, thank you for this last video, now I feel comfortable in trying the repair! Thank you for this tutorial, it is really helpful!
@@valevinciful You're welcome! Give me a shout if you run into any problems.
Is this the same with 80d?
I'm not sure if an 80D is the same Nicole. I will hopefully do a video on the 80D in the near future, but I don't have anything for it right now.
is there any calibration of the shutter speed or AF needed after this?
Hi inside my camera when on mirror cleaning mode I can see a metal pin that is Stickuo up from the bottom looks like one of the metal clips on blades.. slightly obscuring the sensor by a few mm, what is this?? I have gently pushed it back down and seems ok is this something to do with the shutter blades? Is it part of the shutter that hasn't returned properly?? And does it mean the shutter has a problem ..Thanyou
Can you post a picture of it? Unless something has fallen inside the camera, it does sound like it's something to do with the shutter curtains. There are a couple of very small springs that are used on the curtains, and they sometimes break and can then tear the curtains.
@@Thebobfactor thanks for reply, it seemed to want to go back down when I pushed it gently.S can't get a photo unfortunately... It looked like the small metal bit on the shutter blades/wipers(with the hole) as I was looking at the images and the video to see which bit it was! The shutter does seem to work ok. Do those metal arms become disaligned or stick occasionally? So I was right in thinking it shouldn't be there? The autofocus does seem to work better now.
@@Morbid_Tom432 Yes the curtain arms can get jammed up sometimes. Generally it's because a piece of the curtain has come off. You are correct that you shouldn't see anything sticking up like that. All you should see is just the shutter curtains laying nicely on top of each other.
@@Thebobfactor ok yes that's what I thought, I assume o
if a part of the curtain was broken it would be very noticeable in the photos?
спасибо за подробное
You're welcome.
Hello, i just changed the shutter blades, it worked for 10 shots and stopped working with ERR 20 showing as i turn the camera on. I checked all the connections. All are good.. :(
If the mechanism is still jammed (causing ERROR 20-generic code for camera malfunction), then very likely the charge motor that drives the shutter to open and the mirror to flip up is jamming. This is indicative of a faulty shutter unit (the magnetic and gear parts of the shutter mechanism other than the blades).
Very insightful video! Can you do one for the Sony A7III's shutter unit please? Sony shutters are terrible. The shutter unit on my A7III broke just after 14 months of use, which is 2 months outside my warranty. I moved from Canon to Sony just last year. In all the 10 years of using Canon, a shutter has never broken on me. The replacement of the shutter unit on my A7III is too expensive for me.
Hi K9-Unit. I've often thought about getting a Sony A7 or A7R camera for myself. It's a shame that you only got 14 months of use before a major repair was needed though. I've never worked on one, but I might take a look for a broken one on ebay to practice on sometime.
Many Thanks...
Robert, I called canon parts today and asked them about replacing the optical viewfinder. She told me that I couldn’t order that part because it came with the mirror box assembly (my optical viewfinder is scuffed bad). Do you have any insight on replacing that small piece of glass (or plastic)?
Hi Anthony. I haven't worked on that part on a 6D before, but I did just recently remove the viewfinder lens to get in behind it on a 60D. They are not identical, but I think they are close. You will need to tear down the camera far enough to where you can remove both the back panel, and the top part. I believe from that point you will have access all of the screws that hold the viewfinder lens piece on. There is a spring and other loose parts inside the viewfinder box, so just be careful when removing it. The tough part will be finding just the viewfinder lens though. I looked on Ebay and I don't see any that are listed. Generally it only comes with a mirror box assembly.
Here's a link the first video in this series that shows how far you will need to tear the camera down to get access to the screws. ruclips.net/video/tUl9cV5GA4M/видео.html
Good luck with it Anthony. Let me know how you make out on it, or if you run into any problems.
-Bob
Thank you for your reply Robert! I was able to find the lens from a distributor in China. I received it yesterday and put it in today. The lens is crystal clear and looks good and you were right there was a spring another loose parts when tearing it down further. I have everything assembled again thanks to your videos. The only issue that I have now is that the diopter is not actually adjusting the focus of the optical viewfinder anymore when i turn it. I was fairly meticulous about putting things back together but may have overlooked something. It looks like I’m going to have to tear it all apart again and see where I went wrong. Do you have a video or any diagrams that show a diopter repair?
Wonderfull work Mr Robert Hosea. Very impressive. Can i please ask you where did you bought your shutter curtains? Are they reliable?. Thank you so much. I am a huge fan of your work
Hi Mario. Thank you! I'm glad you like the videos. Regarding the shutter curtains, I purchased them on eBay from an outfit in California. They were suppose to be an OEM part, and the quality did look much better then another set of 6D shutter blades that I purchased on eBay directly from China. Here is a link to the store on ebay where I purchased the first set: www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-6D-Shutter-Blade-Curtain-New-Replacement-OEM-Repair-Part/114045802206?hash=item1a8da8d6de:g:D8UAAOSwlOVdgqD1
@@Thebobfactor thank you so much. You are the best.
I´ve just found your channel. This is GREAT. We have two canon 6d that need to be serviced. So these videos will save me a tremendous amount of time. In case that you need some ideas, a video of how to change the upper wheel (The one that you move with your right hand index finger) whould be awesome.
Thank you. I hope the videos help you out. I plan on making many more videos for the 6D and I'll try to do one on that selector wheel. Thanks for the idea! - Bob
@@Thebobfactor I too would love to see that! Watching this video has proven that my battered 6D will need a little more precision love than I expected, but your amazing teardown will most certainly get me to removing the top safely!
Hey Robert! First of all great video! I am thinking of replacing the shutter assembly on my Canon 7d mark ii, I think that the steps are quite similar to these video tutorials you made?
Thank you! I've never worked on a 7d before, so I'm not at all sure how similar they are. But I would sure be interested to hear if they are after you've worked on yours. -Bob
@@Thebobfactor For sure! I will keep you updated and maybe even make a video!
Hi there .. awesome video .. I will definitely follow it to fix mine but I've a doubt .. I could only find the blades of the 6D .. do you know if they the same ... I've the 60 D and They seem the same . Obviously I couldn't found the 60D blades. Thank for your response
Hi Telmo. I don't believe they are the same blade. I just searched on Ebay though, and there are many sets of replacement blades and also entire shutter assemblies for the 60D for sale on there. -Bob
@@Thebobfactor thank you so much for the help
@@telmoberlenga1166 You're welcome.
What an awesome tutorial! Like a watchmaker's bench)
I'm trying to figure out why my 7D's shutter is stuck closed with back curtain unfolded. I drive the motor but it only "clicks" the closed curtain trying to move it with no results. Curtains have no damage. Didn't you stumble upon such problem? What might cause it? I'll be extremely glad if you can share your thoughts)
Also I wonder, the detail you show at 5:25 - I've got only ONE of these. And where is it intended to go - quite a mystery :D
I've yet to work on a 7D Inten, so I'm not familiar with the shutter system at all. I would guess that the piece shown at 5:25 would do the same thing on a 7D that it is doing on the 6D, which is to go across the ends of the curtain blades. And if you are hearing a clicking noise when the motor runs, then it shows that the problem is definitely mechanical and not electrical. Have you removed the shutter assembly and disassembled it?
@@Thebobfactor it looks pretty familiar to this 6D's one. Yes, I dissembled it, but didn't mess with the main mechanics unit which is driven by the motor - which is the part causing this problem I bet. It's very complicated but I have no good knowledge how it does it's work. If I had I'd rather try or at least diagnose it better :D
Hi, I bought a 7D for 40$ with what seems the same problem. I got as far as to be able to drive the motor with 5V but I have no idea what is normal operation. Does running the motor alone make the shutter cycle completely (open and close) or there's extra actuation needed like a solenoid release? Because I hear clicking but shutters are not opening. If I manage to open them manually, running the motor will close them back and then clicks.
@@repairtech9320 hi! Driving the motor makes the upper (?) curtain cycle, but another one stays closed as solenoid is holding it. You can tackle the lower lever with a toothpick to unlock it, than cycling the motor will move the curtain and than lock it again.
But beware - calibrating sensor position back once it’s disassembled is enormously difficult! I did it and almost succeeded (had to set af calibration to -14 though, as it’s the closest position I could achieve and not screw the planarness at the same time)
@@ЭтоДрючинский So it could be the solenoid not doing what it's supposed to do. I don't remember if (upper, front, back) lol... one of the two... shutter opens when motors runs. Your explanation is very helpful. Thank you