Kiwior looking like the best option by a long way now, considering he can double up as a left back. The way I see it is we *have* to get 2 cbs now (ontop of a backup striker..). I really really wish we would just recall Rugani it is SO frustrating to me how it is such an obvious solution when we are desperate for another cb- Rugani is on a dry loan and he isn't even playing much so I don't really see what having him sit on the bench at Ajax is doing for anyone involved.
Whats the alternative? What better defender can we realistically get on loan in January? Back in the Summer, I didn't want Kiwior either but the situation has changed a lot now, and we are one more injury away from a complete disaster at the back.@@آكلالنملالحرشفي
I’m actually concerned about doing nothing and relying on experiments *IF*, and hopefully not, someone else goes down and when we have to rest guys. We play every 3-4 days regardless if it’s only 10 matches until January
No need to worry. Cabal isn't a full time starter and McKennie can cover for him. We need to solve the Dusan saga and get more coverage for our central defense. I like the false 9 idea for Nico. I would try to pickup free transfers, promote and recall. Keep it reasonable.
McKennie as LB for coverage? Weah is the only one outside of Danilo or Rouhi who his played there. LB isn’t my big concern its CB and those guys will need a break so we shoot with Savona which is an experiment or Danilo who is avoid at all costs to me haha. What are the odds we don’t see another injury in 10 games playing every 3-4 days until Jan?? Could be risky business 🤷🏻♂️
Stick to the plan. Gotta unload the bad contracts this winter; Melo, Danilo, Pogba. Dusan in summer. I think if they have to pull guys from the midfield to the back line you have Thuram and Locatelli. But I’m totally ok with Savona getting more time, this is going to be extremely valuable for his development.
@ The thing most people don’t seem to get is that Lindelöf is not just a washed United player. When he plays he’s always decent and makes few mistakes it’s just that playing with Maguire and Evans makes it hard to defend. Inter and Atletico Madrid has been chasing him for a while and if there is anyone I trust when it comes to scouting players over 30 years old it’s definitely Marotta
Nothing to do with nationalities with me but I just remember even when he was receiving clout, I just never really rated the guy. Doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work with us of course but he wouldn’t be high on my list whatsoever. To each their own.
Losing Cabal is tough - feel bad for him and hope both he and Bremer come back stronger next year 💪. But now theres an opportunity for the 6’3” Puche and the young Ruhi to step up. Sometimes a young player shines given the chance and never looks back 🤞! I would avoid Lyndelof as hes not cheap and has been battling injuries this last year. Hope we can get Kiwior and/or Skrinear (no obligation) on loan, and give the young guys minutes to grow.
Our problems as a fans comes from the big expectations we put on Motta , I also expect alot from him but not in this circumstance like he doesn't have either quality or quantity in the squad also out of form players I am ok if the results in this upcoming matches I think Motta should focus more on the built rather than the results
Not gonna fly with me totally. His squad is still good. We are talking about safety nets here and unfortunately two weird decisions Giuntoli made in the summer (not having an extra ST around and not keeping one more Cb around for coverage) ended up biting him in the ass with these injuries. Also Danilo has been unplayable and that’s bit them too which was completely unexpected. Regardless, results do matter, we can’t abandon everything for the sake of a rebuild.
The hits just keep on coming. Hand Chiellini a shirt and tell him we have a new assignment for you. LOL All of what you propose is possible. Giuntoli is about to earn every bit of his salary.
Brutal hit! Hate to hear that for Cabal. Bring in Kiwior, call back Rugani, and move on from Danilo in January. Maybe can work out brining in Zirkzee with that Danilo move!
Danilo has more lives than a cat and seems the big winner here as it looks likely Cabal's season is over. The worst defender we have ever exported but my feeling is he stays to cover and worse starts. I don't like the idea of trading the original Danilo just for the Swedish Danilo. I know it's not popular but Skriniar is the most solid choice and work out a deal for 6 months. Also bring in Kiwi as well. We're not far off top spot and not worth risking our season by going the cheap route. Finally Berto might have to work overtime on Fifa.
As a backup option he’s been reliable for years. Doesn’t cost anything I’d be open to it but I’d get a free agent now and try to sign Kiwior in January. That gives you two CB and a LB Then find a ST
this is the blunder waiting to be happen. the argument always, there is not enough space for everybody. we all know we are playing alot of games, and its impossible to keep playing without rest. but guintoli and motta still persistently trimming down the squad like everybody will be fit and healthy and injury is the thing never happened in the past 15years. its mind blogging that we have been hit so many times by injury problems in the last 10 seasons or more, and guintoli or motta sound like they never heard about it? even in marcelo lippi days our CB and striker always have good amount of coverage, we kept 36yo vierchowod and porini, the loyal amoruso and padovano, even when we had vieri, bocsik, vialli and rafanelli before and still got del piero. send out 4 CB and trimmed our defender almost a bare bone is really guintolli 1st biggest blunder. even more disastrous is living dusan as the only striker option. and where all the money goes? the midfielder which is we already had more than enough. if we desperate to must have koop, we should not invested 50M for douglas luiz. with 50M we can still have moise kean or buying retegui. and we dont have to loan rugani. what douglas luiz brought to juventus so far for 50M can be done by hans nicolussi caviglia (10matches, 2 goals, 1 assist) its really weird. we took the riskier road just to get rid stable pieces that can be use as rotation player like kean, caviglia and rugani. 13M for kean, 5M for caviglia, rugani save us 1.5M and now we are in the opening of the situation for losing bigger money than we save? playing UCL with danilo indeed a disaster, he is not even good enough for seri A. douglas luiz 50M is evaporating fast into smokes. and we turn around to the point where we need to buying 1 new striker, and at least 1 CB which is we actually needs 2 CB. free transfer??? 1. it will cost us more money for their salary. 2. they are probably lest competitive and not ready for full times action because active players already playing and in tune with regular matches, they dont. probably never in full session training for half of the year, what we got probably as good as danilo. 3. which one is more riskier? betting on someone who is not playing and training regularly full times because they are free transfer? or young players from primavera or next gen? guintoli market strategy bite him back. he probably thinking that douglas luiz is the warranty if he fail to get koopmeiners. but its an expensive warranty, very expensive indeed. its not just 50M 50M just the fee, 1.5M go to his agent, he earn 8.3M gross salary, thats a total of 41,6M for 5 year so in this 5 years we already lost 93M euro just for a warranty if koop transfer fail. FYI douglas luiz now is our top 3 earning under dusan and bremer. with douglas luiz current performance we will be hard to selling him, just like arthur who is the top 4 highest paid. it is a disaster. danilo is top 7. if we lost UCL, slipping in copa italia, and only sit at 3 or 4 this season, its a total disaster. we cant even pay the investment for luiz. chico will be slipping away, and what do we do? selling dusan? or selling cambiasso? thats how we funding the team? just by 1 miscalculation, it turn into 2, 3 and like card of deck eveything is falling down. and this is the danger of internet and social media hype up of players transfer. you all had been talking about guintoli acceptance on juve fans is by buying big guns. bring me koop and he is success, some people said. so what guintoli bet on? he have to get douglas luiz as a back up for fans acceptance. he cant say oh we still got mckenny our best performer last season right? and he cant bet on enzo or caviglia or rugani or kean or miretti, fans will be saying same old same old and complaining about no new hypes. everything rise and die with the hypes. this is a disaster.
Kiwior looking like the best option by a long way now, considering he can double up as a left back. The way I see it is we *have* to get 2 cbs now (ontop of a backup striker..). I really really wish we would just recall Rugani it is SO frustrating to me how it is such an obvious solution when we are desperate for another cb- Rugani is on a dry loan and he isn't even playing much so I don't really see what having him sit on the bench at Ajax is doing for anyone involved.
Are you looking to compete with inter by an arsenal bench player qho inter beat their main squad with their bench , desperate enough
Whats the alternative? What better defender can we realistically get on loan in January? Back in the Summer, I didn't want Kiwior either but the situation has changed a lot now, and we are one more injury away from a complete disaster at the back.@@آكلالنملالحرشفي
I’m actually concerned about doing nothing and relying on experiments *IF*, and hopefully not, someone else goes down and when we have to rest guys. We play every 3-4 days regardless if it’s only 10 matches until January
Cambiaso & Rouhi can cover LB. Savona & McKennie can cover RB. Gatti, Kalulu, Danilo & Gil Puche can manage CB. We sign Kiwior & Danso in January
No need to worry. Cabal isn't a full time starter and McKennie can cover for him. We need to solve the Dusan saga and get more coverage for our central defense. I like the false 9 idea for Nico. I would try to pickup free transfers, promote and recall. Keep it reasonable.
McKennie as LB for coverage? Weah is the only one outside of Danilo or Rouhi who his played there. LB isn’t my big concern its CB and those guys will need a break so we shoot with Savona which is an experiment or Danilo who is avoid at all costs to me haha.
What are the odds we don’t see another injury in 10 games playing every 3-4 days until Jan?? Could be risky business 🤷🏻♂️
Stick to the plan. Gotta unload the bad contracts this winter; Melo, Danilo, Pogba. Dusan in summer.
I think if they have to pull guys from the midfield to the back line you have Thuram and Locatelli. But I’m totally ok with Savona getting more time, this is going to be extremely valuable for his development.
I might be a bit biased because of my nationality but I think that Lindelöf that can become a good asset and be a good solution in January
Am not even from Sweden but I rate lindolf high I wish we can get him he is very good player
@ The thing most people don’t seem to get is that Lindelöf is not just a washed United player. When he plays he’s always decent and makes few mistakes it’s just that playing with Maguire and Evans makes it hard to defend. Inter and Atletico Madrid has been chasing him for a while and if there is anyone I trust when it comes to scouting players over 30 years old it’s definitely Marotta
Nothing to do with nationalities with me but I just remember even when he was receiving clout, I just never really rated the guy. Doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work with us of course but he wouldn’t be high on my list whatsoever. To each their own.
Losing Cabal is tough - feel bad for him and hope both he and Bremer come back stronger next year 💪. But now theres an opportunity for the 6’3” Puche and the young Ruhi to step up. Sometimes a young player shines given the chance and never looks back 🤞! I would avoid Lyndelof as hes not cheap and has been battling injuries this last year. Hope we can get Kiwior and/or Skrinear (no obligation) on loan, and give the young guys minutes to grow.
Kiwior seems like good choice
i would look for free agency right now
Our problems as a fans comes from the big expectations we put on Motta , I also expect alot from him but not in this circumstance like he doesn't have either quality or quantity in the squad also out of form players I am ok if the results in this upcoming matches I think Motta should focus more on the built rather than the results
this is Juventus not Parma
results always, style second but both would be perfect
Not gonna fly with me totally. His squad is still good. We are talking about safety nets here and unfortunately two weird decisions Giuntoli made in the summer (not having an extra ST around and not keeping one more Cb around for coverage) ended up biting him in the ass with these injuries. Also Danilo has been unplayable and that’s bit them too which was completely unexpected.
Regardless, results do matter, we can’t abandon everything for the sake of a rebuild.
I would bring in Sergio Ramos as a free agent and get Djalo/Rugani back and find a backup striker.
We've to move McKennie to FB.
An almost decade long injury issues with four diff coaches is insane.
Yeah, it’s enough to call it a curse ffs 🤦🏻♂️
The hits just keep on coming. Hand Chiellini a shirt and tell him we have a new assignment for you. LOL All of what you propose is possible. Giuntoli is about to earn every bit of his salary.
Brutal hit! Hate to hear that for Cabal. Bring in Kiwior, call back Rugani, and move on from Danilo in January. Maybe can work out brining in Zirkzee with that Danilo move!
I like that idea. That would be ideal. Assuming gonzalez stays fit and provides good coverage for vice dusan
@ exactly, Nico staying fit easier said than done at this point! 😂
I’m down with that plan but I’m sketched out in a 2 point race to ride it out until Jan without help playing every 3-4 days
A bit risky but let’s see.
Lindelöf is a similar player as Danilo. That change make no sense.
Danilo has more lives than a cat and seems the big winner here as it looks likely Cabal's season is over. The worst defender we have ever exported but my feeling is he stays to cover and worse starts. I don't like the idea of trading the original Danilo just for the Swedish Danilo. I know it's not popular but Skriniar is the most solid choice and work out a deal for 6 months. Also bring in Kiwi as well. We're not far off top spot and not worth risking our season by going the cheap route. Finally Berto might have to work overtime on Fifa.
I still doubt Danilo stays tbh… we will see
Do we dip into the primavera for back up? No Diddy.
😂😂😂
Gil Puche coming in 👀
Sergio Ramos is a free agent current ? What about him
I was originally a no… now… depending on certain factors I’m not against it, despite not liking him lol
Why there are so many injuries? Fitness coaches and phiyos must be replaced with top professionals from germany and england!
I’m not sure, we definitely aren’t the only club suffering but it’s rough every year it seems with us.
Rugani? Really bro?
As a backup option he’s been reliable for years. Doesn’t cost anything I’d be open to it but I’d get a free agent now and try to sign Kiwior in January. That gives you two CB and a LB
Then find a ST
@AllJuveCast Rugani used to cost us games , I don't agree with you.
this is the blunder waiting to be happen.
the argument always, there is not enough space for everybody.
we all know we are playing alot of games, and its impossible to keep playing without rest.
but guintoli and motta still persistently trimming down the squad like everybody will be fit and healthy and injury is the thing never happened in the past 15years.
its mind blogging that we have been hit so many times by injury problems in the last 10 seasons or more, and guintoli or motta sound like they never heard about it?
even in marcelo lippi days our CB and striker always have good amount of coverage, we kept 36yo vierchowod and porini, the loyal amoruso and padovano, even when we had vieri, bocsik, vialli and rafanelli before and still got del piero.
send out 4 CB and trimmed our defender almost a bare bone is really guintolli 1st biggest blunder.
even more disastrous is living dusan as the only striker option.
and where all the money goes? the midfielder which is we already had more than enough.
if we desperate to must have koop, we should not invested 50M for douglas luiz.
with 50M we can still have moise kean or buying retegui.
and we dont have to loan rugani.
what douglas luiz brought to juventus so far for 50M can be done by hans nicolussi caviglia (10matches, 2 goals, 1 assist)
its really weird.
we took the riskier road just to get rid stable pieces that can be use as rotation player like kean, caviglia and rugani.
13M for kean, 5M for caviglia, rugani save us 1.5M and now we are in the opening of the situation for losing bigger money than we save?
playing UCL with danilo indeed a disaster, he is not even good enough for seri A.
douglas luiz 50M is evaporating fast into smokes.
and we turn around to the point where we need to buying 1 new striker, and at least 1 CB which is we actually needs 2 CB.
free transfer???
1. it will cost us more money for their salary.
2. they are probably lest competitive and not ready for full times action because active players already playing and in tune with regular matches, they dont.
probably never in full session training for half of the year, what we got probably as good as danilo.
3. which one is more riskier? betting on someone who is not playing and training regularly full times because they are free transfer? or young players from primavera or next gen?
guintoli market strategy bite him back.
he probably thinking that douglas luiz is the warranty if he fail to get koopmeiners.
but its an expensive warranty, very expensive indeed.
its not just 50M
50M just the fee, 1.5M go to his agent,
he earn 8.3M gross salary, thats a total of 41,6M for 5 year
so in this 5 years we already lost 93M euro just for a warranty if koop transfer fail.
FYI douglas luiz now is our top 3 earning under dusan and bremer.
with douglas luiz current performance we will be hard to selling him, just like arthur who is the top 4 highest paid.
it is a disaster.
danilo is top 7.
if we lost UCL, slipping in copa italia, and only sit at 3 or 4 this season, its a total disaster.
we cant even pay the investment for luiz.
chico will be slipping away, and what do we do? selling dusan? or selling cambiasso? thats how we funding the team?
just by 1 miscalculation, it turn into 2, 3 and like card of deck eveything is falling down.
and this is the danger of internet and social media hype up of players transfer.
you all had been talking about guintoli acceptance on juve fans is by buying big guns.
bring me koop and he is success, some people said.
so what guintoli bet on? he have to get douglas luiz as a back up for fans acceptance.
he cant say oh we still got mckenny our best performer last season right?
and he cant bet on enzo or caviglia or rugani or kean or miretti, fans will be saying same old same old and complaining about no new hypes.
everything rise and die with the hypes.
this is a disaster.