A relatively small part of Poland was under Prussian occupation, it's not the same as saying Poland was part of Prussia once. The latter suggests a willing joining of Poland to Prussia.
Point 13: You got it a bit too vague. Poland DID exist before WW I., about 119 and much more years before WW I. Wilson wanted to bring back old Polish state not just create it. It would be nice if you explained it.
Little known fact--Japan wanted a clause (racial equality proposal) to be included in the Versailles peace treaty stating the "all races are equal". Woodrow Wilson--an open racist--and the major "white" nations rejected the proposal. This angered Japan and led to their aggressive desire to make Asia a world superpower leading up to WWII,
Prussia was effectively abolished in 1932, and officially abolished in 1947. What we call Poland was part of Prussia since 1795. Poland regained its independence as the Second Polish Republic in 1918. Poland hadn't been a sovereign state for a period of more than 119 years prior to WW1. Just clarifying your wording... Fortunately, the Polish people maintained their cultural wealth throughout that period, so bringing back the Polish state only needed dissolution of Prussia & independence.
Poland was under occupation of Prussia, Austro-Hungary but mostly Russia since last partition of 1795 til 1918. Saying Poland was part of Prussia suggests that it was originally a region under Prussia.
You should talk about Serbia much more, Serbia had big role in wwi, big role, libertaing europes teritories etc. SERBIA lost 1/4 of male population back than...
The 14 points were originated by Wilsons closest friend Edward Mandell House who also personally did most of the negotiating at the Paris summit. This was the start of what has been termed the Anglo American world power, the special relationship, et cetera.
go to khanacademy and there can you see more of this videos. For example there are playlist in math,chemistry,biology,echonomic ,compuer science and many others.
I think we are only disagreeing on details. There were 3 partitions of Poland between 1792-1795, ending with OCCUPATION by Prussia, A-H and Russia. Poland was never part of Prussia, on the contrary, lands that we call Prussian were originally Polish, going back to middle ages. That product of Prussia should have never happened, Poles should have wiped that thing down when had chance.
Great job, great job, I've watched all your videos and learned a lot, I hope there will be more, and ww2 later. You should make playlist so we can watch all your great videos in order on one place. Cheers :)
I didn't say that! Notice my reference to the Second Polish Republic? Notice that I stated that bringing back the Polish state needed dissolution of Prussia. My grandfather was a Pole who was a Prussian Cavalry officer in ~1890, so don't tell me that Poland wasn't part of Prussia for a period of time.
btw i would love to see more of these videos explaining how different countries came to exists fx. i've never learned much about the conflict and the creation of north and south korea.. And i have been wondering about the details of the creation of the state of isreal and the Gaza-strip.. thanks for the informative videos, i find them highly entertaining to watch!
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom (1913)
Go to Wikipedia, & enter 'Prussia' in the search box; you'll find that a large portion of Poland was absorbed into Prussia proper, as shown on the map there. The Prussian military was well organized & effective in conquering land, so I doubt that Poles were very willing to join. My grandfather despised Prussia, likely a common sentiment there. He deserted & defected to America soon after being conscripted.
yeah they did exist but politically they were not recognized as such, all non political papers, book etc mentioned Bosniaks even serb authors wrote books mentioning bosniaks
"The President of the Republic, Dr. Wilson, is indeed serving the Kingdom of God for he is restless and strives day and night that the rights of all men may be preserved safe and secure, that even small nations, like greater ones, may dwell in peace and comfort, under the protection of Righteousness and Justice. This purpose is indeed a lofty one. I trust that the incomparable Providence will assist and confirm such souls under all conditions." - Abdu’l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu’l-Baha
Interesting. But to paint Wilson as an idealist without looking at what he actually promulgated and pushed for both legislatively and politically is somewhat misleading. Wilson was backed by JP Morgan and his gang. He went from President of a University to POTUS in less than two years. He had ZERO political experience and within a short time in office instituted the Federal Income Tax and the Fed a Central Bank whose sole purpose was to create money to loan to we, the people. I suggest you watch James Perloff's excellent presentation for a more rounded view of this incredibly important time in our history.
hi can anyone help me with this: assess the significance of the role of Woodrow Wilson in changing the relationships between the powers in the period 1879-1980
How Washington DC/US Internationalism/The American Century (all morphed into the current PNAC and a variety of think tanks today) intended to use "divide and conquer/rule"-strategies on "old Europe" starting around the turn of the century (around 1900). *Wilson's role in all of this is not clear, since it was never written down. According to logic and reasoning (based on what is known), Wilson was either not fully aware, or fully informed re. the above means by US think tanks to achieve global hegemony.* Or "a plan of sorts", because it would rely on "natural" European division. Wilson's "14 Point Speech" was of course not composed solely by Wilson himself. It was based on the work of a new York-based think tank/interest group called the Inquiry. While this produced remarkably fair solutions for many regions of the world (see for example the creation of Armenia and Kurdistan based solely on ethnicity), re. the vital Central Europe it was simply a "catalogue of historical excuses" which the 150 "experts" (LOL) had come up with and which would grant the "associated European winners" of WW1 a draft to ignore wise biblical advice: - do onto others as one wishes for oneself (aka "self-determination") - put yourself in the shoes of others (note, the Bible doesn't say that *one has to like those* in which shoes one is invited to step into) These are simple unbiased universal priciples. Clear and easy to understand to most people, since they form the basis of many religions (as moral guidelines for both the religious, as well as the growing number of atheists/agnostics, for example The Golden Rule) and wise age-old advice to stop the "sowing" of unprincipled deeds which all have to be "reaped" later on... *If the 14 Points were not universally valid principles, then what were they?* Correct answer: a Washington DC strategy of "divide" (Europeans) and "rule" (the world). From wiki: "Lippmann's draft territorial points were a direct response to the secret treaties of the European Allies, which Lippmann had been shown by Secretary of War Newton D. Baker.[7] Lippmann's task, according to House, was "to take the secret treaties, analyze the parts which were tolerable, and separate them from those which were regarded as intolerable, and then develop a position which conceded as much to the Allies as it could, but took away the poison.... It was all keyed upon the secret treaties."[7] Sources are of course, always at the bottom of that wiki page. The above is of course and example of *favoratism* (a tactic of "divide and rule"), and not a "universal principle". If they had been universal principles, then not only would the London Treaty of 1915 (regarding the secret carving up of Austria-Hungary, made to draw Italy into WW1) have been declared null and void, but also all other secret scheming and backdoor deals, like Sykes-Picot. So. They were *not* universal principles. The "14 points" were a transparent Washington DC attempt at "division", and the vain European "winners" fell for it. Wilson intention was clearly to arm-wrestle "the winners" into agreeing to an international organisation which would hopefully make all future wars impossible, or limit their scope to "limited/local wars". Also of course to lobby with all his power (faltering, since already in a weak a state of health) to convince his fellow Americans on all levels of society, that this was the right thing to do. Either that, or convince them to enter into a wise peace, which would settle long-standing European differences based on "principles" of sorts. *The end effect of such naivity on Wilson's part was that he achieved neither goal: Neither the "international organisation/round table" or "concert" of powers, nor a wise peace.* He had underestimated both the stupidity of European leaders stuck in their old ways, and his own population and their representitive form of government aka "democracy" (Senate of course at the time "around 1900" until 1913 was not directly elected yet, but was a "peer-controlled group" of insiders). In case he did understand fully what was behind the 14 Points, he did not say. Of course, every US POTUS has the obligation to put US interests first. These included breaking away from a European dominated world, as well as find markets for own steadily growing US industries. Simple lesson of history. Be principled. If not, get "divided" and "ruled over"...
Point #8 does NOT call for the return of Alsace and Lorraine to France... Wilson leaves the door open for a partition , Alsace (Strasbourg) returned to France , and Germany keeping Lorraine... That was always the obvious solution , but France would never hear of it... If only France had agreed to such a partition , there would have been no Second World War... That's my understanding Point #8 always seems to get fudged... Sometime between January 1918 and the Versailles conference , the text is altered to demand the full return of both Alsace and Lorraine to France... To which Germany had somehow assented.!. That's the image presented , to the best of my understanding... And it's an atrocious misrepresentation In 1870 Germany defeated France mano a mano , and took Alsace-Lorraine... France assented... France treated most of Europe worse in the Napoleonic period... In 1918 France defeated Germany with a tad , a soupcon of assistance from Russia , Britain , America etc... And demanded the full return of both provinces , as though France had defeated Germany single-handedly... That's not right The other thirteen points fade into insignificance compared with #8... Wilson emphasised self-determination , but there was no plebiscite in Alsace-Lorraine I would love to hear from my fellow RUclipsrs... What is the story behind the changing of the eighth point ?
Fabians wrote this list in *Labour’s War Aims* and colonel house made it happen. *Labour’s War Aims* included every item covered in these points. Socialism.
You put Hungary instead of Romania at the 10 point. This is not the historical truth. Transilvania has romanian people as majority population. But nowdays is not such a big deal, because Romania and Hungary are both european countries, we have a free circulation and european cooperation between us. This is a modern way to go forward, without the old historical imperial frustrations. The case of Yugoslavia is an good example of what people it's better not to do, avoiding the bloody ethnical war.
Yeah sure Wilson was an idealist. Didn't care about imperialism that was being spread by the allies in Asia and Africa and talks about self determination. All Americans ever cared about was money.
Thank you for explaining so well! My history book won't go into detail when mentioning the 14 points. Cheers from Italy!
Agreed. I really enjoy these history videos because this is one of the fields in which my knowledge is lacking the most. Keep up the awesome work Sal!
A relatively small part of Poland was under Prussian occupation, it's not the same as saying Poland was part of Prussia once. The latter suggests a willing joining of Poland to Prussia.
The guy's voice and the way he talks and stutters makes him sound like Ranboo.
The thought of Ranboo teaching me about World War I makes me smile.
Point 13: You got it a bit too vague. Poland DID exist before WW I., about 119 and much more years before WW I. Wilson wanted to bring back old Polish state not just create it. It would be nice if you explained it.
Thank you very much for teaching history to me. Now, I can understand the world a bit better. ❤
Little known fact--Japan wanted a clause (racial equality proposal) to be included in the Versailles peace treaty stating the "all races are equal". Woodrow Wilson--an open racist--and the major "white" nations rejected the proposal. This angered Japan and led to their aggressive desire to make Asia a world superpower leading up to WWII,
Could you give me a reference?
No, it was the Perry expedition of 1853.
No it was Australia and Britain who rejected it based in colonial racism and Japan was also racist
@@anoncrazynonevilgooddecent7631 ...Japan was racist? What racial group were the Japanese (Asian) racist towards?
Khan Academy videos are splendid, but I find the history videos somewhat pro-American. But a noble contribution these videos.
Thank you!
Prussia was effectively abolished in 1932, and officially abolished in 1947. What we call Poland was part of Prussia since 1795. Poland regained its independence as the Second Polish Republic in 1918. Poland hadn't been a sovereign state for a period of more than 119 years prior to WW1. Just clarifying your wording... Fortunately, the Polish people maintained their cultural wealth throughout that period, so bringing back the Polish state only needed dissolution of Prussia & independence.
Poland was under occupation of Prussia, Austro-Hungary but mostly Russia since last partition of 1795 til 1918. Saying Poland was part of Prussia suggests that it was originally a region under Prussia.
You should talk about Serbia much more, Serbia had big role in wwi, big role, libertaing europes teritories etc. SERBIA lost 1/4 of male population back than...
The 14 points were originated by Wilsons closest friend Edward Mandell House who also personally did most of the negotiating at the Paris summit. This was the start of what has been termed the Anglo American world power, the special relationship, et cetera.
you can do that on the site. although it's not playing continously
If you go to his website he organizes these videos in a very nice linear format.
go to khanacademy and there can you see more of this videos. For example there are playlist in math,chemistry,biology,echonomic ,compuer science and many others.
I think we are only disagreeing on details. There were 3 partitions of Poland between 1792-1795, ending with OCCUPATION by Prussia, A-H and Russia. Poland was never part of Prussia, on the contrary, lands that we call Prussian were originally Polish, going back to middle ages. That product of Prussia should have never happened, Poles should have wiped that thing down when had chance.
No they weren't Polish, most of the land in the Baltic Sea was either German or Kashubian or Lithuanian.
I'm in DEEP.......You CAN'T take WISDOM AND KNOWLEDGE.
Very enjoyable presentation. Thank you.
Great job, great job, I've watched all your videos and learned a lot, I hope there will be more, and ww2 later. You should make playlist so we can watch all your great videos in order on one place. Cheers :)
I didn't say that! Notice my reference to the Second Polish Republic? Notice that I stated that bringing back the Polish state needed dissolution of Prussia. My grandfather was a Pole who was a Prussian Cavalry officer in ~1890, so don't tell me that Poland wasn't part of Prussia for a period of time.
Thank You Salman
btw i would love to see more of these videos explaining how different countries came to exists fx. i've never learned much about the conflict and the creation of north and south korea.. And i have been wondering about the details of the creation of the state of isreal and the Gaza-strip.. thanks for the informative videos, i find them highly entertaining to watch!
interesting, thanks.
God bless you
great reading skills
never learned much of this, so im happy!.. keep them coming.
Wow helped a lot
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom (1913)
Go to Wikipedia, & enter 'Prussia' in the search box; you'll find that a large portion of Poland was absorbed into Prussia proper, as shown on the map there. The Prussian military was well organized & effective in conquering land, so I doubt that Poles were very willing to join. My grandfather despised Prussia, likely a common sentiment there. He deserted & defected to America soon after being conscripted.
My first thought was Woodrow Wilson Smith (AKA Lazarus Long).
yeah they did exist but politically they were not recognized as such, all non political papers, book etc mentioned Bosniaks even serb authors wrote books mentioning bosniaks
"The President of the Republic, Dr. Wilson, is indeed serving the Kingdom of God for he is restless and strives day and night that the rights of all men may be preserved safe and secure, that even small nations, like greater ones, may dwell in peace and comfort, under the protection of Righteousness and Justice. This purpose is indeed a lofty one. I trust that the incomparable Providence will assist and confirm such souls under all conditions." - Abdu’l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu’l-Baha
Interesting. But to paint Wilson as an idealist without looking at what he actually promulgated and pushed for both legislatively and politically is somewhat misleading.
Wilson was backed by JP Morgan and his gang. He went from President of a University to POTUS in less than two years.
He had ZERO political experience and within a short time in office instituted the Federal Income Tax and the Fed a Central Bank whose sole purpose was to create money to loan to we, the people.
I suggest you watch James Perloff's excellent presentation for a more rounded view of this incredibly important time in our history.
Im also here my lovely friends
hi can anyone help me with this: assess the significance of the role of Woodrow Wilson in changing the relationships between the powers in the period 1879-1980
How Washington DC/US Internationalism/The American Century (all morphed into the current PNAC and a variety of think tanks today) intended to use "divide and conquer/rule"-strategies on "old Europe" starting around the turn of the century (around 1900).
*Wilson's role in all of this is not clear, since it was never written down. According to logic and reasoning (based on what is known), Wilson was either not fully aware, or fully informed re. the above means by US think tanks to achieve global hegemony.*
Or "a plan of sorts", because it would rely on "natural" European division.
Wilson's "14 Point Speech" was of course not composed solely by Wilson himself. It was based on the work of a new York-based think tank/interest group called the Inquiry. While this produced remarkably fair solutions for many regions of the world (see for example the creation of Armenia and Kurdistan based solely on ethnicity), re. the vital Central Europe it was simply a "catalogue of historical excuses" which the 150 "experts" (LOL) had come up with and which would grant the "associated European winners" of WW1 a draft to ignore wise biblical advice:
- do onto others as one wishes for oneself (aka "self-determination")
- put yourself in the shoes of others (note, the Bible doesn't say that *one has to like those* in which shoes one is invited to step into)
These are simple unbiased universal priciples.
Clear and easy to understand to most people, since they form the basis of many religions (as moral guidelines for both the religious, as well as the growing number of atheists/agnostics, for example The Golden Rule) and wise age-old advice to stop the "sowing" of unprincipled deeds which all have to be "reaped" later on...
*If the 14 Points were not universally valid principles, then what were they?*
Correct answer: a Washington DC strategy of "divide" (Europeans) and "rule" (the world).
From wiki: "Lippmann's draft territorial points were a direct response to the secret treaties of the European Allies, which Lippmann had been shown by Secretary of War Newton D. Baker.[7] Lippmann's task, according to House, was "to take the secret treaties, analyze the parts which were tolerable, and separate them from those which were regarded as intolerable, and then develop a position which conceded as much to the Allies as it could, but took away the poison.... It was all keyed upon the secret treaties."[7]
Sources are of course, always at the bottom of that wiki page.
The above is of course and example of *favoratism* (a tactic of "divide and rule"), and not a "universal principle".
If they had been universal principles, then not only would the London Treaty of 1915 (regarding the secret carving up of Austria-Hungary, made to draw Italy into WW1) have been declared null and void, but also all other secret scheming and backdoor deals, like Sykes-Picot.
So.
They were *not* universal principles.
The "14 points" were a transparent Washington DC attempt at "division", and the vain European "winners" fell for it.
Wilson intention was clearly to arm-wrestle "the winners" into agreeing to an international organisation which would hopefully make all future wars impossible, or limit their scope to "limited/local wars". Also of course to lobby with all his power (faltering, since already in a weak a state of health) to convince his fellow Americans on all levels of society, that this was the right thing to do. Either that, or convince them to enter into a wise peace, which would settle long-standing European differences based on "principles" of sorts.
*The end effect of such naivity on Wilson's part was that he achieved neither goal: Neither the "international organisation/round table" or "concert" of powers, nor a wise peace.*
He had underestimated both the stupidity of European leaders stuck in their old ways, and his own population and their representitive form of government aka "democracy" (Senate of course at the time "around 1900" until 1913 was not directly elected yet, but was a "peer-controlled group" of insiders).
In case he did understand fully what was behind the 14 Points, he did not say.
Of course, every US POTUS has the obligation to put US interests first. These included breaking away from a European dominated world, as well as find markets for own steadily growing US industries.
Simple lesson of history.
Be principled.
If not, get "divided" and "ruled over"...
hi sal
i accidentally copy pasted this link while i was on the real website
Point #8 does NOT call for the return of Alsace and Lorraine to France... Wilson leaves the door open for a partition , Alsace (Strasbourg) returned to France , and Germany keeping Lorraine... That was always the obvious solution , but France would never hear of it... If only France had agreed to such a partition , there would have been no Second World War... That's my understanding
Point #8 always seems to get fudged... Sometime between January 1918 and the Versailles conference , the text is altered to demand the full return of both Alsace and Lorraine to France... To which Germany had somehow assented.!. That's the image presented , to the best of my understanding... And it's an atrocious misrepresentation
In 1870 Germany defeated France mano a mano , and took Alsace-Lorraine... France assented... France treated most of Europe worse in the Napoleonic period... In 1918 France defeated Germany with a tad , a soupcon of assistance from Russia , Britain , America etc... And demanded the full return of both provinces , as though France had defeated Germany single-handedly... That's not right
The other thirteen points fade into insignificance compared with #8... Wilson emphasised self-determination , but there was no plebiscite in Alsace-Lorraine
I would love to hear from my fellow RUclipsrs... What is the story behind the changing of the eighth point ?
First! Do i get extra credit points on my test??
Fabians wrote this list in *Labour’s War Aims* and colonel house made it happen. *Labour’s War Aims* included every item covered in these points. Socialism.
What’s the 14 points ?
I think your pronounced Montenegro wrong...
You put Hungary instead of Romania at the 10 point. This is not the historical truth. Transilvania has romanian people as majority population. But nowdays is not such a big deal, because Romania and Hungary are both european countries, we have a free circulation and european cooperation between us. This is a modern way to go forward, without the old historical imperial frustrations. The case of Yugoslavia is an good example of what people it's better not to do, avoiding the bloody ethnical war.
Yeah sure Wilson was an idealist. Didn't care about imperialism that was being spread by the allies in Asia and Africa and talks about self determination. All Americans ever cared about was money.
This guy gets paid 10 mill a year lol
It was all about the creation of the state of Israel. It was the main point of creation.
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