Guys before you keep throwing names here I just checked all the 88 playable characters we have until now one by one and they're all gold except for the harbingers. Depending on the character design it can look pale but they're still gold. Tartaglia's and Arlecchino's are very clearly silver, and we have some characters that don't carry any like Nahida, Raiden, Neuvillette, Traveller and Diluc when he has his skin. So put your glasses on and use better quality settings to check it properly.
I wonder if someone can get access to Scaramouche and see if he had a silver electro vision. (I'd say otherwise Signora, but seeing her backstory, she'd only have her Cryo delusion and "pure Pyro energy" in her body.
@@Juju2927 pretty sure scara only had his delusion too (as an edit, I have to add that, of course, if he already had a vision before, he wouldn't have gotten another one, so I say 'pretty sure' because we never saw his delusion to be sure he had one).
@@daysand123nope just checked. Gold. It looks kinda silver when it’s floating down due to the lighting but when it’s shown with the hat on stage it’s pretty clearly gold
Childe and Arle have Snezhnaya visions so it can be that Snezhnaya visions are commonly silver. Seeing the first non-fatui Snezhnayan character will shed a lot of light in it
I thought ororon was from natlan tho, his name sounds like a natlan name too But I could be wrong, I don't remember anyone saying he's actually from natlan
i mean both arle and childe have SOMETHING to do with the abyss, albeit arle came through some sort of portal down there i think? and childe went down there but same diff
My BIGGEST theory is, the 10th harbringer is set empty for us, bcause we eventually going to help sneznaya later on. so pierro predict our arrival. remember we always get title in every region
given how the traveller is canonically stronger than legit gods it’s kinda a slap in the face to be below a guy that doesn’t exist anyone and a pile of ashes
in many folklores (especially chinese), gold is also acquainted with divinity hence why Liyue fits as a nation of commerce with gold being a very apparent motif in Zhongli's voicelines and lore. thus, harbingers having silver frames could be like a symbolic defiance of the divine. another fun fact is that pure silver can change colors when detecting poison (i.e. how childe's vision changes when using his delusion), and silver is closely acquainted with "cold" while gold is "warmth"
Lyney, Lynette, Freminet still have golden vision casings it's theorized that delusions corrupt vision and that is the reason behind why they're silver but that's just a theory.
@@Tomy_Lightningon theory the silver vision means 1:they're from snezhnaya or they're harbingers and Lynnette, Lyney and freminet are from Fontaine and aren't harbingers. And yeah that could be too
@@hijospereyra463 Arlecchino, technically, is not from Snezhnaya. She was born in Khan'reah and somehow ended up in an orphanage in Fontaine. The first time she went to Snezhnaya was exactly after she knocked out the previous Knave, as a detainee.
This could also explain the mysterious voice we heard in act 2 when Capitano fled the stadium after the fight vs Mavuika, and Ororon so casually happens to be the only one character from the ignition teaser who still hasn't shown up in any part of the first 2 acts....
My guess is that the silver casings represent delusions and the gold casings are visions, which would go to show how much thought went into making this game.
that wouldn't work because childe has a hydro vision and electro delusion and the hydro is the one with the silver casing also during the 4.0 AQ you get childe's vision and it's the hydro one
@@TechnoTekk that is true, im just trying to figure out what the silver casings mean aside from "oh they’re from Snezhnaya". Maybe it’s related to contact/relation to the abyss or kaenriah
They can, weve met a person or 2 from natlan back in fontaine. All that happens is they wont have protection from the wayobs, so people from natlan typically wouldnt want to. This was explained in in act 1 im pry sure
why r u acting like they legit CANNOT leave natlan? did u read? they DONT leave rather than they CANT leave, its just their culture, not some rule they have to follow
There’s literally a Natlan NPC in a daily comms that said that he travelled in Liyue. He also mentioned that he met a man (something similar to a gentleman/elegant man) that followed and guided him while he was in Liyue. That same liyuen man also given him a liyuen name (i forgot the given name). I think the man that the Natlan NPC met in Liyue is Zhongli.
I'd like to think that Ororon's vision casing is Silver despite the Natlan symbol is that it represents his origin and loyalty to the Cryo Archon which is why he joined the Fatui. Probably because he knows the Mavuika's intentions into saving Natlan and he doesn't like it
For people who's curious: They're a different kind of artifact, Vision are golden casing vision that choose it's user and assign them there element. These silver Casing vision are "Delusion" it allow anyone who is in possession of it to manipulate multiple element, this is why Tartaglia are able to use Hydro and Electro
See, that’s why when Citlali says that Ororon was being manipulated or forced, I don’t believe it! Cause he could’ve sent that signal to pretend to be in danger and make himself look like the victim, I’m positive he is gonna be a traitor
i've been seeing the gold and silver casing theory with ororon. For the tenth harbinger theory, some ppl say it could be diluc's father (crepus) even though lyney and lynette are part of the fatui, they have gold vision casings, so maybe the silver casing thing could only apply to harbingers but maybe lyney and lynette have gold cases because they are from fontaine? but that's dispproven since ororon is prob from natlan due to his vision case so ororon could maybe be fatui harbinger, or even crepus
i just got Ororon in pulls and know a bit of his lore (i’m not on the Natlan AQ yet) he’s too much of a softie to be in the fatui IMO especially ranked above Childe, i also believe he has an incomplete soul so that could be a reason to his vision
Man I always felt that theories of who the missing 10th Harbinger never makes sense, because Scara leaving the 6th seat behind and it being left alone for years immediately solidified that the rankings are set in stone, so it's more than likely for me that Crucabena was the original 10th Harbinger and dying left her seat unoccupied, similar to how the 6th was left alone after Scara got everything about him erased.
Could I ask how the AQ disproves this?? I haven't played it yet but I love this theory and truly believe it has strong grounds considering we've only seen fatui harbingers have silver visions and other members of the fatui have gold ones??
@@ValkKirimo its a spoiler but ororon basically got confirmed as not harbinger by capitano not to mention he becomes something else that is related to Natlan
@@ValkKirimo my theory is that 10th harbinger is gonna be travelers title kinda like we have honorary knight in mondstat, hence why we have like no info about 10th harbinger
I think we could be grasping at straws here, though, because that implies that becoming a harbinger affects the vision in a way that nothing else does; Arlecchino already had a vision when she became the Knave. Furthermore, both Arlecchino and Tartaglia have Snezhnayan cases, which could be the reason theirs are similar.
I'm so happy that you're the freaking first english speaking person I've seen that pronounced Tartaglia's name correctly!! Thank you so much for respecting my boy 😭💖
I wonder if the reason that their casings are silver is because they’re technically delusions. we know that Childe’s delusion is on the back of his regular vision. I don’t remember if the Knave has a delusion but if she does, I think it be connected to her vision the same way Childe’s is.
I believe all harbinger receive a delusion from the tsaritsa when they become harbinger so the knave must have one. That said all delusion we have seen had the fatui symbol in place of the element symbol so I don't think silver casing means delusion. Edit : you can see Arlechino's delusion on her boss form, behind her neck
@@baz7160 Yes it's like a intronisation ceremony reward, all of them receive one from the Tsaritsa and those delusion are far better than the mass product one in Inazuma AQ ( so it doesn't backfire as quickly as the mass products one ). Also you can see both vision and delusion that are detached from each other in Childe third phase boss. But I do wonder if the Harbingers visions have a special casing that isn't a Snezhanya casing since Arle have that one but she got her vision in Fontaine ( unless you can switch casing and she decided to use the Snez one when she join the Harbingers ) maybe when Snezhnaya drop the people outside the fatui will have a different casing that will be gold ?
@@johnkim3284 No idea, maybe it's the tsaritsa who choose wich delusion element she give or maybe she wanted help to control her natural fire power, or maybe her power made her incompatible with other elements. Or maybe she just didn't care and chose at random XD
@@Eiruki Now that I think about it, when we saw Furina get her vision it was already in its casing. Is there anywhere in the game where it's said that casing can be changed ? Maybe silver vision have a different meaning, like how fontaine vision were different if you had pneuma or ousia, or how Furina's vision has claws because it came from Neuvillette (a dragon). Edit : Yae is hiding her vision as an earring, if you look at it you can see her vision casing is still the classical inazuma one, she just added things on to it. It proves nothing and I'm probably reading too much into it but that does make me think that if she did all that instead of just moving the jewel part of the vision, then maybe visions cannot be moved out of their casing.
Omg... Now I'm going to re watch the livestream. I didn't even notice it was silver. I was just happy that he's a tall electro husbando but a bonus if he is
I honestly like that theory that silver casing (on the VISION) means the character interacted or has some sort of connection with either the Abyss or Celestia
Ororon is closely associated with Capitano. In the Natlan trailer he was right besides him, and after the end of 5.0 archon quest he's talking to Capitano after he fought Mavuika. So it probably has something to do with Shneznaya and it being turned against the othe regions. The Tsaritsa turning against the other archons
also also,like you said,dragons were INCREDIBLY advanced,so it makes sense if Natlan has a lower form of these things,since,yk,they have the closest relationship with the dragons,im not saying dragons played pokemon red on a gameboy but maybe like,idk made advanced algorithms to program who knows what,and again,phlogiston is the source of the elements so why can't it power motorbikes and dj tables
I have an oc with a silver vision who was a member of the house of hearth and he got his vision when he escaped it. Could be the divine taunting him at this point lol
gold visions are visions, the silver visions are delusions typically only fatui members possess delusions though we did have on npc in one of the inazuma story quests use it and die because of its side effects
@@xennysorgans “gold visions are visions, the silver visions are delusions” babes childes silver vision is hydro, which is NOT his delusion element. It’s electro. His ACTUAL visions casing is silver. like uhhh
I am still holding on to the theory Ororon is Brighella. I don't have anything tangible aside from Brighella being seen alongside Capitano most of the time, but at this point it's more of a hypothesis of sorts.
I read this on discord. There's a theory that he's the new Harbinger since Wanderer (Scara) deleted informations about him so everyone in Teyvat don't know about him. Ororon the Harbinger to replace Scara.
I think that instead of being the missing harbinger, he might be instead a spy for the fatui. After all, in the first full Natlan teaser we got not to long ago, he was standing with Capitano, almost like they were in a meeting. Instead of focusing on the harbinger, we focused on Ororon(I think that's his name anyway) but he stole the spotlight away from Capitano by hiding in the shadows. He might be the tenth harbinger, but it's also very likely that he's a spy for the fatui.
My guess is that cause they have a delusion that somehow reduces the quality of their vision...? Or drains the gold to negate the delusion side effect leaving them with just silver.
We know who the missing harbinger is? It's Crucabena. Crucabena was very likely the tenth harbinger before Arlecchino offed her as it's conveniently the only position that isn't filled. It also fits the time of events as Arlecchino is the second most recent harbinger (Tartaglia being the most recent). The title of "The Knave" is just that. A title. Harbingers are ranked by their power and Crucabena being the weakest harbinger at the time fits perfectly with what we see in the animated short.
It's because if snezhnaya people crafted gold casing, all Fatui enemies with their delusions will be interested in gold casing and Tsaritsa will go broke 😂
Lyney, Lynette and Freminet are Fatui and have gold visions. Maybe silver visions are for harbingers or they represent delusions because delusions have silver casing.
That cant be the case because childe's vision is in a silver casing, as shown when he gave it to us during that quest, and his delusion is electro, not hydro
pretty sure either 10th one hasnt been introduced yet and we will see him/her later or thats gonna be travelers tittle in sneznaja kinda like in mondstat we are honorary knight
Have you ever thought that Fatuis may well take new Harbingers to the places of the dead or departed? And that Ororon could be the new Sixth Harbinger instead of Scara?
Thats actually interesting because Lyney and Lynette also have gold visions. The silver vision casings are literally only Harbingers. And this man is theorized to be a four star???
i don't think them being Fatui is the catch because lyney Lynette and freminet have gold visions, maby it has something to do with the abyss or something
@@wellberightback4861 That would mean Wanderer would get one because out of the Fatui it seems that he had spent the most time down there. He confirms that the Jester was constantly sending him down. Unless the Inrminsul change he did affected that completely.
Could the silver visions actually signify that the character uses a delusion as well as a vision? (Like maybe the delusion dulled the gold of the vision or smth?)
My theory is that he also has a delusion and that delusions sorta corrupt visions so their casing color changes. The only other character beside Childe and Arle with a delusion is Diluc but 1) his and his dads Delusion looked different and we know from Inazuma there are different types of delusions and 2) he didn’t have his vision with him in the 3 years he used a delusion
I KNEW IT!!!!!! EVERYONE DIDN'T BELIEVE ME!!!!!! I TOLD EVERYONE IN A VIDEO SOMEONE ELSE PODTED THAT ORORON WAS PROBABLY THE 10TH FATUI HARBINGER SINCE IN THE WIKI AND OFFICIAL GENSHIN, THEY HAVEN'T SHOWN WHO THE 10TH HARBINGER IS!!!! IF THIS IS TRUE, I AM NOW AN UNKNOWN LEGEND!!!!
Wt... I swear I thought that something like a 50% of all visions are silver, and it's just random visions! So when I saw a silver vision on my fav natlan character, I wasn't surprised at all....
That, or probably he is from Snejnaya? Its still confusing how visions are given, but I remember in the video that Arlechino did not had her vision when taken to Snejnaya.
Okay if we’re all throwing out ideas, has anybody guess that it could be Capitano outside of his suite and mask? I’m probably wrong, he’s probably the guy that taught Captain the mist thing. Just came to my mind recently and it would be a fun plot twist
An interesting take but hypothetically, Lyney will one day inherit Arlecchino's place. I can't exactly imagine them just saying here use this casing now for our aesthetics lol. And yes, I do think that becoming the next Head of the House equals becoming the next harbinger. I get that so far, we've been led to believe it relates to power level. But considering how important the house is to the Fatui's recruitment, it only makes sense that the one running it also be a harbinger/part of the main group working with the archon. Also, at the end of the quest, it doesn't really feel or seem like Capitano knew/was working with him in the first place and no one has ever alluded to the 10th harbinger, even as a mystery. Also idk I feel like that would somehow be such a cop out? Like anyone who was thinking about it for long knows there are so many theories about it; suddenly having a new character that had minimal build up (ONLY in the Natlan AQ) feels lazy. I suppose they could find a way but it would be a hard sell for me personally. Random but it reminds me of the brief spark of "Sunday is Sapphire!" theories that popped up just because of color aesthetics and some feathers. Even though we know that Sapphire as an IPC member existed before the Penacony arc, so Diamond would have just gone to him from the get go.
Guys before you keep throwing names here I just checked all the 88 playable characters we have until now one by one and they're all gold except for the harbingers. Depending on the character design it can look pale but they're still gold.
Tartaglia's and Arlecchino's are very clearly silver, and we have some characters that don't carry any like Nahida, Raiden, Neuvillette, Traveller and Diluc when he has his skin. So put your glasses on and use better quality settings to check it properly.
I wonder if someone can get access to Scaramouche and see if he had a silver electro vision.
(I'd say otherwise Signora, but seeing her backstory, she'd only have her Cryo delusion and "pure Pyro energy" in her body.
@@Juju2927he didn't have a vision back then obviously
@@Juju2927 pretty sure scara only had his delusion too (as an edit, I have to add that, of course, if he already had a vision before, he wouldn't have gotten another one, so I say 'pretty sure' because we never saw his delusion to be sure he had one).
Wasn't Furinas shown to be silver in the vigalette animatic or am I remembering it wrong?
@@daysand123nope just checked. Gold. It looks kinda silver when it’s floating down due to the lighting but when it’s shown with the hat on stage it’s pretty clearly gold
Childe and Arle have Snezhnaya visions so it can be that Snezhnaya visions are commonly silver. Seeing the first non-fatui Snezhnayan character will shed a lot of light in it
Yep, this is probably it
I thought ororon was from natlan tho, his name sounds like a natlan name too
But I could be wrong, I don't remember anyone saying he's actually from natlan
i mean both arle and childe have SOMETHING to do with the abyss, albeit arle came through some sort of portal down there i think? and childe went down there but same diff
His vision is a Natlan vision...
@@Blackout_He could have earnt it in natlan and moved to Snezhnaya, and came back
"That is the goldest of fucking gold i have ever seen, are y'all high?"
😭😭
LOL
@@BranOnline Also, why make this bs up??? Ororon isn't a harbinger lol.
@@RavanaMuseIt's called a theory.
@@adambtale14A GAME THEORY
@@Tealx3r THANKS FOR WATCHING
My BIGGEST theory is, the 10th harbringer is set empty for us, bcause we eventually going to help sneznaya later on. so pierro predict our arrival. remember we always get title in every region
This one is good ngl
Yess@@winchlye
OH SHIT-
WAIT YOU MIGHT BE ON TO SOMETHING THERE-
given how the traveller is canonically stronger than legit gods it’s kinda a slap in the face to be below a guy that doesn’t exist anyone and a pile of ashes
in many folklores (especially chinese), gold is also acquainted with divinity hence why Liyue fits as a nation of commerce with gold being a very apparent motif in Zhongli's voicelines and lore. thus, harbingers having silver frames could be like a symbolic defiance of the divine. another fun fact is that pure silver can change colors when detecting poison (i.e. how childe's vision changes when using his delusion), and silver is closely acquainted with "cold" while gold is "warmth"
You are making me too excited for Ororon cuz he's probably gonna be a 4* but I want him to be 5* so badddddd
There has already been leaks about him, we know what's his weapon and grade
All we have left to do now is wait
Sameeee 😩😊
It's already confirmed, sorry- he'll be a 4* electro bow user, ororon will release in the first phase of 5.2
@@kaku7398 it’s seen in the trailer that he uses a bow I think
Ororon is really going to be a cool character in the near future, which makes him a character I'm looking forward to, like Mavuika or Capitano
Watch him get benched coz Fischl and Kuki exist
His skill aren't good
You can see the leaks on yourself its botleg dori
Okay if Captitano show have silver Vision, this means all Fatui harbingers have Silver.
Lyney, Lynette, Freminet still have golden vision casings it's theorized that delusions corrupt vision and that is the reason behind why they're silver but that's just a theory.
@@Tomy_Lightningon theory the silver vision means 1:they're from snezhnaya or they're harbingers and Lynnette, Lyney and freminet are from Fontaine and aren't harbingers.
And yeah that could be too
@@Tomy_LightningDiluc's is still gold
@@milkywilkyyy he didn't use them together when he used a delusion he wasn't wearing his vision.
@@hijospereyra463 Arlecchino, technically, is not from Snezhnaya. She was born in Khan'reah and somehow ended up in an orphanage in Fontaine. The first time she went to Snezhnaya was exactly after she knocked out the previous Knave, as a detainee.
This could also explain the mysterious voice we heard in act 2 when Capitano fled the stadium after the fight vs Mavuika, and Ororon so casually happens to be the only one character from the ignition teaser who still hasn't shown up in any part of the first 2 acts....
My guess is that the silver casings represent delusions and the gold casings are visions, which would go to show how much thought went into making this game.
that wouldn't work because childe has a hydro vision and electro delusion and the hydro is the one with the silver casing
also during the 4.0 AQ you get childe's vision and it's the hydro one
@@TechnoTekk that is true, im just trying to figure out what the silver casings mean aside from "oh they’re from Snezhnaya". Maybe it’s related to contact/relation to the abyss or kaenriah
nah, Delusions have the four pointed Fatui symbol that you can see on Fatui agents. It was also shown in Inazuma Act 3 by Gorou
@@prizm4tic776fatui you mean? cus harbingers arent related to the abyss
But both Arlecchino and Tartaglia have silver visions
Maybe because Ororon is people of Natlan and cannot leave Natlan.
Meaning Ororon cannot join meeting with other harbinger in snezhaya.
E verdade talvez seja por isso que o Capitano esteja em Natlan
They can, weve met a person or 2 from natlan back in fontaine. All that happens is they wont have protection from the wayobs, so people from natlan typically wouldnt want to. This was explained in in act 1 im pry sure
why r u acting like they legit CANNOT leave natlan? did u read? they DONT leave rather than they CANT leave, its just their culture, not some rule they have to follow
@@Vade4545who are those 2 people? I'm pretty sure I never met any natlan NPC pre 5.0
There’s literally a Natlan NPC in a daily comms that said that he travelled in Liyue. He also mentioned that he met a man (something similar to a gentleman/elegant man) that followed and guided him while he was in Liyue. That same liyuen man also given him a liyuen name (i forgot the given name).
I think the man that the Natlan NPC met in Liyue is Zhongli.
There is a theory that characters with an incomplete soul have silver vision, another character with silver vision is Furina.
I'd like to think that Ororon's vision casing is Silver despite the Natlan symbol is that it represents his origin and loyalty to the Cryo Archon which is why he joined the Fatui.
Probably because he knows the Mavuika's intentions into saving Natlan and he doesn't like it
It feels like a week ago that you reacted all genshin character then tried genshin and now you know more than many.... time flies
For people who's curious:
They're a different kind of artifact,
Vision are golden casing vision that choose it's user and assign them there element.
These silver Casing vision are "Delusion" it allow anyone who is in possession of it to manipulate multiple element, this is why Tartaglia are able to use Hydro and Electro
See, that’s why when Citlali says that Ororon was being manipulated or forced, I don’t believe it! Cause he could’ve sent that signal to pretend to be in danger and make himself look like the victim, I’m positive he is gonna be a traitor
i've been seeing the gold and silver casing theory with ororon. For the tenth harbinger theory, some ppl say it could be diluc's father (crepus)
even though lyney and lynette are part of the fatui, they have gold vision casings, so maybe the silver casing thing could only apply to harbingers
but maybe lyney and lynette have gold cases because they are from fontaine? but that's dispproven since ororon is prob from natlan due to his vision case
so ororon could maybe be fatui harbinger, or even crepus
That aged well
I still believe that creppus is number 10
Umm who?
@@mohamedsaahil7801Diluc's dad
@@Relorelo23 But didn't he died or something?
@@mohamedsaahil7801so did Signora but I don't think they updated the rankings afterward
@@baz7160and the fatui in mondstadt talk about the 6th being vacant for years after the scara quest
maybe ororon has a silver vision because he’s a spy for capitano and could potentially be capitano’s subordinate, climbing the ranks?
Even the Hearth children have gold Vision casings. The silver has to be significant
i just got Ororon in pulls and know a bit of his lore (i’m not on the Natlan AQ yet) he’s too much of a softie to be in the fatui IMO especially ranked above Childe, i also believe he has an incomplete soul so that could be a reason to his vision
Man I always felt that theories of who the missing 10th Harbinger never makes sense, because Scara leaving the 6th seat behind and it being left alone for years immediately solidified that the rankings are set in stone, so it's more than likely for me that Crucabena was the original 10th Harbinger and dying left her seat unoccupied, similar to how the 6th was left alone after Scara got everything about him erased.
Me, having played the AQ, looking back on this dumb theory:
Could I ask how the AQ disproves this?? I haven't played it yet but I love this theory and truly believe it has strong grounds considering we've only seen fatui harbingers have silver visions and other members of the fatui have gold ones??
@@ValkKirimo its a spoiler but ororon basically got confirmed as not harbinger by capitano not to mention he becomes something else that is related to Natlan
@@rsidle9940 awe I see. hope to see the 10th harbinger in snezhnaya at least lol
@@ValkKirimo my theory is that 10th harbinger is gonna be travelers title kinda like we have honorary knight in mondstat, hence why we have like no info about 10th harbinger
Am i the only one who was expecting Harbingers to be something really cool like Espada from Bleach?
I’m saving this to see how well it ages, I honestly feel great about this theory
Ororon cannot be the tenth harbinger because of the latest archon quest
There is a really good theory about it on the Ororon mains subreddit. It made me actually believe in the theory.
I think we could be grasping at straws here, though, because that implies that becoming a harbinger affects the vision in a way that nothing else does; Arlecchino already had a vision when she became the Knave. Furthermore, both Arlecchino and Tartaglia have Snezhnayan cases, which could be the reason theirs are similar.
I'm so happy that you're the freaking first english speaking person I've seen that pronounced Tartaglia's name correctly!! Thank you so much for respecting my boy 😭💖
I wonder if the reason that their casings are silver is because they’re technically delusions. we know that Childe’s delusion is on the back of his regular vision. I don’t remember if the Knave has a delusion but if she does, I think it be connected to her vision the same way Childe’s is.
I believe all harbinger receive a delusion from the tsaritsa when they become harbinger so the knave must have one. That said all delusion we have seen had the fatui symbol in place of the element symbol so I don't think silver casing means delusion.
Edit : you can see Arlechino's delusion on her boss form, behind her neck
@@baz7160 Yes it's like a intronisation ceremony reward, all of them receive one from the Tsaritsa and those delusion are far better than the mass product one in Inazuma AQ ( so it doesn't backfire as quickly as the mass products one ).
Also you can see both vision and delusion that are detached from each other in Childe third phase boss. But I do wonder if the Harbingers visions have a special casing that isn't a Snezhanya casing since Arle have that one but she got her vision in Fontaine ( unless you can switch casing and she decided to use the Snez one when she join the Harbingers ) maybe when Snezhnaya drop the people outside the fatui will have a different casing that will be gold ?
@@baz7160Never knew that. On a side note, why did she choose a pyro delusion. Ah yes pyro + pyro = pyrox2. Kinda seems redundant.
@@johnkim3284 No idea, maybe it's the tsaritsa who choose wich delusion element she give or maybe she wanted help to control her natural fire power, or maybe her power made her incompatible with other elements. Or maybe she just didn't care and chose at random XD
@@Eiruki Now that I think about it, when we saw Furina get her vision it was already in its casing. Is there anywhere in the game where it's said that casing can be changed ? Maybe silver vision have a different meaning, like how fontaine vision were different if you had pneuma or ousia, or how Furina's vision has claws because it came from Neuvillette (a dragon).
Edit : Yae is hiding her vision as an earring, if you look at it you can see her vision casing is still the classical inazuma one, she just added things on to it. It proves nothing and I'm probably reading too much into it but that does make me think that if she did all that instead of just moving the jewel part of the vision, then maybe visions cannot be moved out of their casing.
Omg... Now I'm going to re watch the livestream. I didn't even notice it was silver. I was just happy that he's a tall electro husbando but a bonus if he is
Arlecchino is a Khaenri'ahn, grew up and got her vision in Fontaine, the vision is Snezhnayan... how neat
Ororon is the guy that most likely gave Capitano the info in the archon quest so makes sense that he has a silver vision
I honestly like that theory that silver casing (on the VISION) means the character interacted or has some sort of connection with either the Abyss or Celestia
I am Ororon main and if he is the missing harbinger I will be super happy😅
Today I played Genshin and I saw Kachina having a silver vision
Ororon is closely associated with Capitano. In the Natlan trailer he was right besides him, and after the end of 5.0 archon quest he's talking to Capitano after he fought Mavuika. So it probably has something to do with Shneznaya and it being turned against the othe regions. The Tsaritsa turning against the other archons
when the archons are skimping out on the vision casing budget
also also,like you said,dragons were INCREDIBLY advanced,so it makes sense if Natlan has a lower form of these things,since,yk,they have the closest relationship with the dragons,im not saying dragons played pokemon red on a gameboy but maybe like,idk made advanced algorithms to program who knows what,and again,phlogiston is the source of the elements so why can't it power motorbikes and dj tables
It makes sense that the twins and frem have gold with outlined silver.
Isn't obvious ororon is apart of the fatui tho, he was with capitano for each trailer he was in.
and e has that gem on his wrist that the Harbingers have on their coats, i wonder what they're cooking
My theory is that capital gave ororon a vision for ororon to work for him.
him not spamming his E and not picking up the contents of chests is physically hurting me haha
Did you comment on the wrong Short?
@@hayond656 yes i think i did. YT might be buggin
The fatui dont get their visions from the blessing of celestia like everyone else.
Ororon is special because the casing is still of Natlan but silver
I have an oc with a silver vision who was a member of the house of hearth and he got his vision when he escaped it. Could be the divine taunting him at this point lol
My personal favourite is Kaeya’s vision which is missing a set of wings in his og outfit
it makes me so sad they making him a 4 star😩 bro’s the only 4 star i been hyped for
gold visions are visions, the silver visions are delusions
typically only fatui members possess delusions though we did have on npc in one of the inazuma story quests use it and die because of its side effects
@@xennysorgans Childes delusion is electro not hydro
@@bladesbladesblade i didn’t say anything about vision types
@@xennysorgans “gold visions are visions, the silver visions are delusions” babes childes silver vision is hydro, which is NOT his delusion element. It’s electro. His ACTUAL visions casing is silver. like uhhh
I’m like, 90% sure he’s working with capitano in some way so I wouldn’t be surprised if he was Fatui, idk about a harbinger tho
There's a guy who helped Capitano escape that was not revealed. It must've been ororon
I am still holding on to the theory Ororon is Brighella. I don't have anything tangible aside from Brighella being seen alongside Capitano most of the time, but at this point it's more of a hypothesis of sorts.
I read this on discord. There's a theory that he's the new Harbinger since Wanderer (Scara) deleted informations about him so everyone in Teyvat don't know about him. Ororon the Harbinger to replace Scara.
I think that instead of being the missing harbinger, he might be instead a spy for the fatui. After all, in the first full Natlan teaser we got not to long ago, he was standing with Capitano, almost like they were in a meeting. Instead of focusing on the harbinger, we focused on Ororon(I think that's his name anyway) but he stole the spotlight away from Capitano by hiding in the shadows. He might be the tenth harbinger, but it's also very likely that he's a spy for the fatui.
My guess is that cause they have a delusion that somehow reduces the quality of their vision...? Or drains the gold to negate the delusion side effect leaving them with just silver.
I think the answer is that they have the power of the Abyss.
We know who the missing harbinger is? It's Crucabena. Crucabena was very likely the tenth harbinger before Arlecchino offed her as it's conveniently the only position that isn't filled. It also fits the time of events as Arlecchino is the second most recent harbinger (Tartaglia being the most recent). The title of "The Knave" is just that. A title. Harbingers are ranked by their power and Crucabena being the weakest harbinger at the time fits perfectly with what we see in the animated short.
This also means a high chance of 5 star ororon baby! (He could also be the new recruit because signora got oofed)
Ororon is a Harbinger that left Snezhnaya
Ill die on that hill
I'm curious how you feel about this after playing 5.1 AQ 🤔
@@almera182 i feel dumb, stupid and bamboozled because Capitano is from Khaenr'ia
Holysht what if ororon is the spy who told Capitano about the plan
Is because ororon was helping out Capitano with something that’s what I heard in a video but I forgot what he was helping Capitano with
Ororon, im pretty sure is the Captains apprentice
It's because if snezhnaya people crafted gold casing, all Fatui enemies with their delusions will be interested in gold casing and Tsaritsa will go broke 😂
Lyney, Lynette and Freminet are Fatui and have gold visions. Maybe silver visions are for harbingers or they represent delusions because delusions have silver casing.
That cant be the case because childe's vision is in a silver casing, as shown when he gave it to us during that quest, and his delusion is electro, not hydro
pretty sure either 10th one hasnt been introduced yet and we will see him/her later or thats gonna be travelers tittle in sneznaja kinda like in mondstat we are honorary knight
I thought Kaeya had a weird burnished silver color, but it was just lighting.
Have you ever thought that Fatuis may well take new Harbingers to the places of the dead or departed? And that Ororon could be the new Sixth Harbinger instead of Scara?
I didn’t even know there was gold and silver versions I’m now noticing💀
Thats actually interesting because Lyney and Lynette also have gold visions. The silver vision casings are literally only Harbingers. And this man is theorized to be a four star???
Well, that gives more depth to my oc having a rough polished hand forged steel vision…
I think this explains why his design is so conflicting. It has Natlan stuff and the weird ripped jeans and leather presumably from Shneznaya
Xilonen also has 'ripped jeans' tho 🤔
Well we did see Ororon with Capitano in the first Natlan Trailer
Seeing this after 5.1...kinda aged weirdly...I'd still love to see why the puppy granny boy's vision casting is silver tho...
Ororon feels like a gacha bad boy from 2018
i don't think them being Fatui is the catch because lyney Lynette and freminet have gold visions, maby it has something to do with the abyss or something
But they are not harbingers.
They are in the organization but they aren't among the ranks
Maybe it's given to people with a high link to the Abyss
@@wellberightback4861 That would mean Wanderer would get one because out of the Fatui it seems that he had spent the most time down there. He confirms that the Jester was constantly sending him down. Unless the Inrminsul change he did affected that completely.
@bladesbladesblade oh yeah... forgot about that... was his electro vision silver?
Or maybe he got it before being sent to the abyss?
@@wellberightback4861 He didn’t have any vision before receiving the one he has now. He had powers that Ei sealed and Dottore unsealed.
people being colouring blind is hilarious chat just be yapping
Well should also remember that some are apparently fake visions anyways so 😂
Could the silver visions actually signify that the character uses a delusion as well as a vision?
(Like maybe the delusion dulled the gold of the vision or smth?)
Saying Wriothesley is wild 😂 you can clearly see silver chain right next to it and they aren't remotely close in color lol
My theory is that he also has a delusion and that delusions sorta corrupt visions so their casing color changes. The only other character beside Childe and Arle with a delusion is Diluc but 1) his and his dads Delusion looked different and we know from Inazuma there are different types of delusions and 2) he didn’t have his vision with him in the 3 years he used a delusion
No wayyyyyyy this theory is crazy but it makes so much sense
Tartalia 4 years later and still pronounced it wrong. Listen to his very first voice line where he introduces himself and he says his name.
I KNEW IT!!!!!! EVERYONE DIDN'T BELIEVE ME!!!!!! I TOLD EVERYONE IN A VIDEO SOMEONE ELSE PODTED THAT ORORON WAS PROBABLY THE 10TH FATUI HARBINGER SINCE IN THE WIKI AND OFFICIAL GENSHIN, THEY HAVEN'T SHOWN WHO THE 10TH HARBINGER IS!!!! IF THIS IS TRUE, I AM NOW AN UNKNOWN LEGEND!!!!
Our Bran is loring and I love it 😂
Imagine Citlali being a 5* but Ororon being a 4*
well i think citlali is really a 5* star hehe
Rumors are Ororon really is a 4* so who knows
Ororon 10th missing harbinger but he’s a 4 star just feels strange
He might be the guy who help Capitano with escaping
Cmon there’s no doubt…he’s from the masters of the night wind and is seen next to him, I think nobody doubted that it was Ororon who helped him escape
Imagine if Ororon fools us how childe did in liyue
With that god-awful design he’d better have some crazy lore
Wt...
I swear I thought that something like a 50% of all visions are silver, and it's just random visions! So when I saw a silver vision on my fav natlan character, I wasn't surprised at all....
That, or probably he is from Snejnaya? Its still confusing how visions are given, but I remember in the video that Arlechino did not had her vision when taken to Snejnaya.
Okay if we’re all throwing out ideas, has anybody guess that it could be Capitano outside of his suite and mask? I’m probably wrong, he’s probably the guy that taught Captain the mist thing. Just came to my mind recently and it would be a fun plot twist
They are literally in the same room in the trailer
@@Lemonblue3967 and I was literally sharing a fun little idea. Let me be delusional and daydream.
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An interesting take but hypothetically, Lyney will one day inherit Arlecchino's place. I can't exactly imagine them just saying here use this casing now for our aesthetics lol. And yes, I do think that becoming the next Head of the House equals becoming the next harbinger. I get that so far, we've been led to believe it relates to power level. But considering how important the house is to the Fatui's recruitment, it only makes sense that the one running it also be a harbinger/part of the main group working with the archon.
Also, at the end of the quest, it doesn't really feel or seem like Capitano knew/was working with him in the first place and no one has ever alluded to the 10th harbinger, even as a mystery. Also idk I feel like that would somehow be such a cop out? Like anyone who was thinking about it for long knows there are so many theories about it; suddenly having a new character that had minimal build up (ONLY in the Natlan AQ) feels lazy. I suppose they could find a way but it would be a hard sell for me personally.
Random but it reminds me of the brief spark of "Sunday is Sapphire!" theories that popped up just because of color aesthetics and some feathers. Even though we know that Sapphire as an IPC member existed before the Penacony arc, so Diamond would have just gone to him from the get go.
Bran was cooking yesterday!!!
I always thought it was because schenznaya vision cases are inherently silver.
There is no way Hoyo did this without meaning
I don't know why but i remember Kaeya having a silver one